@@Josmersuero mate idc if you're a mazepin fan im allowed to make jokes about the worst driver on the grid if i want to, and clearly other people liked it
Penalty causes not mentioned: Corner cutting/exceeding track limits (something Ben Daly is good at doing) Causing a collision (Matt should've mentioned it given that's how he got DQ'd at Monza in the TH-camr Championship)
@@elliotcrossan6290 Not disqualification, Ben was already 18th of 18 (Matt and Harry were already disqualified for other incidents including catching Aarav in a Red Bull Sandwich)
4:48 technically, there's a couple of miliseconds "grace period" after all the lights went, where if a driver is moving, they consider it a false start as well, because they reckon a driver-car combination can't react that quickly to the lights going out. The Renaults of Alonso's WDC years were notorious for moving so fast there were questions if they actually moved legaly. Bottas has had a few reaction times close to that edge.
@@Gary_Harlow yep to get more heat i the brakes/tires teams blocked of some cooling vents. But Am blocked too much i guess, and both cars had problems. Strolls car was ready in time, sebs not.
"Unless it's clear to the stewards that a driver was wholly or predominantly to blame for an incident, no penalty will be imposed." They then proceed to give drivers penalties for things that were not their fault whatsoever, like an unsafe release for example.
Penalizing the driver in those sorts of ways is effectively a penalty for the entire team, it's just the easiest way to impose a minor penalty on the entire team in those situations.
*Matt during the TH-camr Championship at Monza, after Qualifying*: TWENTY-ONE-NINE?! I AM SEEING THAT LAP! Aarav: *admits to cutting the Ascari chicane, but not as much as Harry (who got DQ'd for a very slight corner cut at the second chicane)*
I'll never understand the unsafe release rule.. why would they penalize the driver that has literally no fault in being released unsafely? They're supposed to punish the team only, not the driver
Because it's still the driver that benefits from it, plus if they did something like make it a fine for unsafe release, then every one would just do it because thousand dollar fines are pocket change for f1 teams
I feel there should be more of a distinction made between drivers breaking the rules or teams/team personnel breaking the rules, so speeding in the pit lane is obviously a driver's fault so the driver should be punished with a penalty, but an unsafe release is a team personnel's fault so it is the team that I think should be penalised not the driver. Maybe a fine and/or constructor's championship points reduction
If you cause an incident/accident on the track, you should have to immediately give up the number of positions you cost the other car(s). If said car(s) were forced to retire, then you should drop to last place before being permitted to rejoin the race. Otherwise, there’s not enough risk to prevent drivers from forcing other cars off.
would love to kn about the weight rule of the driver and the car. Has a driver gotten into trouble for losing or gaining to much weight during a rce? or is it purely for stats?
Amazing video!! I know that the penalties that are involve in f1 rare acing more that we could count; however, (and only if possible) you could start a series that include rare sanctions or rules that really doin't make any sense. i.e. "Worst to best penalties enforced in f1 racing". Or star some debates in which the drivers have been sanctioned poorly or way to aggressive during races (past or present seasons). Thank you, and I hope you consider some of these ideas. :)
How about changing wrong tires during race? In Sakhir 2020 that happened to George Russell, he got Bottas' tires because of communication mishap. If the mix up isn't seen and fixed within 3 laps, a penalty is issued. In that case it was, no penalty was given. There was also another involving Bottas in Spa 2015, when during a pit stop he was equipped with a mixed set of tire compounds. He served a drive-through penalty.
Thank you for this video. Social media is full of people who do not know the rules and just echo what teams are saying instead of understanding the sport. I feel like thats why so many people just say "Hamilton should be race banned", or "he did that on purpose" beause they dont have context behind rules or just started watching the sport within the last few years...
There should be a finish result penalty. Like last Sunday, 10s isn't enough but something like your finished result-3 spots or 5. Like a qualification grid penalty.
I love how they go on about safety in the pit is everything but then go and use the pit lane for punishment mean making cars drive down there unnecessarily
So running a driver off track is worth 2 points on a License-but causing A massive crash that resulted in a driver being Hospitalised is only about 10 seconds seems legit
I can understand that the rules must be implementading by Mr Stewart always be proven fair. but it is deeming dependent of iguallity during of his judgements, take for instance of the Leclair manouvres latelly, he never ever was advised to change his behavior on the tracks.
Maybe Hamilton should have gotten a grid place penalty? I feel like time penalties work as designed for most drivers, but hamilton just picks up the pace and gets into 1st anyways.
Question, if a driver is given a race suspension. Is the team allowed to replaced that driver for the race or are they forced to enter the race with one car?
answer is yes. teams can then use backup drivers. example: when Grosjean was suspented for 2012 italy gp. there was Jérôme d'Ambrosio who replaced grosjean on 2012 italy Gp
I started thinking about this 2 years ago when Vettel got a 5-second penalty for cutting across a chicane and unsafely rejoining the track in front of Hamilton; Vettel finished ahead of Hamilton but finished P2 because of the penalty. What if, instead of such a massive penalty as 5 seconds in this day of super fast cars, make the standard penalty the be 2(P20-P1). For those not mathematically inclined, it's twice the difference between the times of the pole sitter and the car in P20. So, if Mazepin qualifies in p20 with a time 2 seconds slower than the pole sitter, the standard penalty for that race will be 2 seconds x 2 = 4 seconds. Instead of 10 second penalties, just quadruple the difference to 8 seconds. In other words, each race will have its own penalty times. That would be interesting.
Is there an rule book definition for “Predominantly?” Because legally it’s different (percentage based, can be anywhere from 51-75%, in the U.S. at least) based upon the law to which it refers.
masi cooks a race haha! He create a rule where cars between hamilton ang verstappen can overake the guide car so that verstappen could win with his fresh tire..
So what happens if after 5 mins before the race it suddenly chucks it down with rain. Surely they would be able to swap the tyres from dry to intermediate
Can someone explain 5 second penalty rule,If the driver doesn't need to pit, the time penalty will be added to their time at the end of the race. How will this total time penalty affect his race at the end of race?
Rules breaches in the pitlane are 100% always a penalty, the form is not always the same, but everething in the pitlane is like a yes or no decision for the stewards. On track its a bit different.
I think Michael Massi isn't a name I should be supposed to know. I feel nowadays there are new rules every race and they have no real clue what to enforce when and how.
@@chriscollins550 Who has found Lewis not guilty now? Even the article you sent reinforces that he is predominantly to blame, even using Lewis fight against Leclerc as an example of what he should have done against Max
Idk because tbh even if Hamilton for a drive through the team would know that and then put Hamilton on hards to begin with after the red flag so that he can go long on them and would still think that he would get Leclerc anyways
Vettel: exists
Fia: that'll be 2 penalty points on your licence my son
269th like nice
Vettel: Is born
FIA: How dare you exist!? 5 second penalty to you for living!
For spinning on his own? 🤷♂️
@@Euclides287 It wasn't a spin 🙄
@@sv52308 lol
Mazepin: "Write that down, write that down!"
🙄 you've got the whole squad laughing
@@Josmersuero I mean I got 234 likes so ig so
@@Josmersuero make that 260 now :)
@@Thomas-et9ts shit has a lot of flies bud.
@@Josmersuero mate idc if you're a mazepin fan im allowed to make jokes about the worst driver on the grid if i want to, and clearly other people liked it
"Sent an email to you with the diagram, please have a look at it..." 😂😂😂
From one Swiss bankaccount to another 👀
Michael masi). Hehehehe NO
Matt "who really has 5 hours to spare" people who watch twitch streams
More like How did we get here speed run streams
More like How did we get here speed run streams
Penalty causes not mentioned:
Corner cutting/exceeding track limits (something Ben Daly is good at doing)
Causing a collision (Matt should've mentioned it given that's how he got DQ'd at Monza in the TH-camr Championship)
Those are one of the first he mentioned.
Ben is quaking 😂🤣 he does love a good track limits peno doesn't he 😂😂
What's the penalty for taking out Rosberg on the last lap in order to give Force India a 1-2?
@@elliotcrossan6290 Not disqualification, Ben was already 18th of 18 (Matt and Harry were already disqualified for other incidents including catching Aarav in a Red Bull Sandwich)
Corner cutting, corner cutting, corner cutting, exceeding track limits, corner cutting, CORNER CUTTING…
FIA: stop pushing people off or you will get a penalty
Perez: what's that?
Kimi: FOOO WWHHHAAATTTT!!???
Hamilton: what's that?
@@Sem5626 Hamilton didn't push verstappen off, he sent him flying to the shadow realm!!!
*also norris
Hah! (This was posted after the São Paulo GP.)
OMG MATT YOU MISSED ONE!!!
He has missed many
@@shoddyflea1276 Now that's a considerable r/wooosh
0:14
I got it!!
You’ve done it
4:48 technically, there's a couple of miliseconds "grace period" after all the lights went, where if a driver is moving, they consider it a false start as well, because they reckon a driver-car combination can't react that quickly to the lights going out. The Renaults of Alonso's WDC years were notorious for moving so fast there were questions if they actually moved legaly. Bottas has had a few reaction times close to that edge.
Someone's watched our F101 ;) th-cam.com/video/446JcsWKVWg/w-d-xo.html
I knew that existed in drag racing but I never knew F1 considered it important enough to account for.
@WTF1 Baku 2022 Nicholas Latifi
Do the lights go out at a random moment? I thought they go 3..2..1 with equal pauses so that the drivers can predict when the lights will get off.
@@cheesebusiness the 3 2 1 is all equal pauses but GO is random. Can be really short or really long
another penalty: you can get a penalty for driving slow in the pit lane
Nearly happened to Carlos in Italy last year
@@thedeamonmeteor69420 which italy
@@ShieldX_Snowy Monza
I think you can drive slowly in the pit lane as long as you're not impeding other drivers. Hamilton got nailed for doing that a few years ago.
Great informative video, but would have loved to see actual footage of drivers doing stuff they get a penalty for :)
That huge penalty Seb got in Imola for not having tyres on 5 minutes before racestart compared to…
@Toasted' Nugget_' 10 sec stop n go yes
@@JR-mk6ow that's a massive penalty compared to....... you know what i mean
they had to repair something with his breaks right?
@@Gary_Harlow yep to get more heat i the brakes/tires teams blocked of some cooling vents. But Am blocked too much i guess, and both cars had problems.
Strolls car was ready in time, sebs not.
Yep, but that's obviously way worse than...
Matt, suspension isn't spelled with a T. Very interesting though :)
Our editor will be getting a telling off :P
@@WTF1official That's too harsh. A 10s stop and go penalty should be proper.
@@WTF1official
Just say it was spelled that way on purpose to see if we were paying attension 😜
@@aberamagold7509 Eye sea watt ewe deed their. 👍
@@WTF1official don’t take it out on Katy. You vicious person.
Simple answer: breathing
Any F1 driver: *Breathes*
FIA: ThErE's A pEnAlTy FoR tHaT
When you breath you release co2 which is considered dirty air and can lower the other cars downforce by 57%
@@ahmadshbaro5138 oh so thats why it says 103759275763208693756 second time penalty above my head
@@dodonub4956 Give that to Lewis and he'll still win
The frequent use of the word penalty in this video gave me unrelenting Euros final flashbacks
"Unless it's clear to the stewards that a driver was wholly or predominantly to blame for an incident, no penalty will be imposed."
They then proceed to give drivers penalties for things that were not their fault whatsoever, like an unsafe release for example.
Agree these drive thur for team stuff up are bs.
Penalizing the driver in those sorts of ways is effectively a penalty for the entire team, it's just the easiest way to impose a minor penalty on the entire team in those situations.
Stewarts: You are a danger to everyone in the pit are... Go drive through the pit lane.
Me sees the title:
Flashbacks to silverstone
It's the best time to release this video.
really surprised you didn't mention Radio instructions from the team on the formation lap
1:34 *Ben Daly* Cheeky.
*Matt during the TH-camr Championship at Monza, after Qualifying*: TWENTY-ONE-NINE?! I AM SEEING THAT LAP!
Aarav: *admits to cutting the Ascari chicane, but not as much as Harry (who got DQ'd for a very slight corner cut at the second chicane)*
who is Ben Daly?
@@hisham_hm tiametmarduk
@@hisham_hm A TH-camr who focuses on Racing Games Mostly F1, His Channel name is Tiametmarduk
@@hisham_hm some guy who inspired vettel's haircut
Matt: Who really has 5 hours to spare?
Me, who is sitting indoors melting: Allow me to introduce myself
I'll never understand the unsafe release rule.. why would they penalize the driver that has literally no fault in being released unsafely? They're supposed to punish the team only, not the driver
Because it's still the driver that benefits from it, plus if they did something like make it a fine for unsafe release, then every one would just do it because thousand dollar fines are pocket change for f1 teams
I feel there should be more of a distinction made between drivers breaking the rules or teams/team personnel breaking the rules, so speeding in the pit lane is obviously a driver's fault so the driver should be punished with a penalty, but an unsafe release is a team personnel's fault so it is the team that I think should be penalised not the driver. Maybe a fine and/or constructor's championship points reduction
So if the team cheat and put say traction control on the car then the driver should keep the WDC points? Lmfao
Hamilton is rare for an Englishman. He's successful despite penalties
(I support England during tournaments don't @ me)
Oof that hurts
when you have by far the best car in the grid it shouldnt be a obstacle like we saw at silverstone
@@Marcelg13 what
@@riptheguys3635 He doesn't get the humour. It's alright we're not all blessed with a funny bone
Oh man England winning on penalties 🤣 that’s a good joke
I’m pretty sure you can get away with posting some unethical stuff on social media
What about intentionally driving off the track after a race? Say to wave a flag..
Race ban except if it’s Hamilton
@@Jakobbbbje yeah this is my understanding too.
Ferrari got a 50,000 euro fine for a unsafe release in the race in German 2019 with Leclerc
1:12-1:16, Micheal masi at the Austrian grand Prix : idc bout this statement, everyone deserves a share.
If you cause an incident/accident on the track, you should have to immediately give up the number of positions you cost the other car(s). If said car(s) were forced to retire, then you should drop to last place before being permitted to rejoin the race. Otherwise, there’s not enough risk to prevent drivers from forcing other cars off.
1:36 even fictionally, Hamilton is first
Like in the reality
Noice
Ben Daly P6 loool
Max Vestappen
0:21 that "but first" almost triggered my ad skip reflexes
Cutting corners/exceeding track limits - 5 second penalty... unless you are Lewis Hamilton.
would love to kn about the weight rule of the driver and the car. Has a driver gotten into trouble for losing or gaining to much weight during a rce? or is it purely for stats?
We had five hours to spare while waiting for the start of the spa grand Prix
Amazing video!!
I know that the penalties that are involve in f1 rare acing more that we could count; however, (and only if possible) you could start a series that include rare sanctions or rules that really doin't make any sense. i.e. "Worst to best penalties enforced in f1 racing". Or star some debates in which the drivers have been sanctioned poorly or way to aggressive during races (past or present seasons).
Thank you, and I hope you consider some of these ideas. :)
This video deserves a second part with the remaining penalties. So good!
2:34 D'Ambrosio (who spun in the pit lane in the 2011 Hungarian Grand Prix) : Am I a joke to you ?
FIA had that stupid penalty in Imola where they penalized Raikkonen for not overtaking during a restart.
exit pit lane with red light it's a black flag. It would be awesome to include it. (Fisichella and Massa few years ago 2008/2010ish)
How about changing wrong tires during race? In Sakhir 2020 that happened to George Russell, he got Bottas' tires because of communication mishap. If the mix up isn't seen and fixed within 3 laps, a penalty is issued. In that case it was, no penalty was given. There was also another involving Bottas in Spa 2015, when during a pit stop he was equipped with a mixed set of tire compounds. He served a drive-through penalty.
Ocon gets a 69 second penalty for this amazing video
Drivers : Breathing*
FIA : *PENALTY!*
Thank you for this video. Social media is full of people who do not know the rules and just echo what teams are saying instead of understanding the sport. I feel like thats why so many people just say "Hamilton should be race banned", or "he did that on purpose" beause they dont have context behind rules or just started watching the sport within the last few years...
got 1 more. you can get a penalty for touching lewis’d rear wing!!
Jump start, Bottas did it well to not been noticed at Austria 2017😂
There should be a finish result penalty. Like last Sunday, 10s isn't enough but something like your finished result-3 spots or 5. Like a qualification grid penalty.
Isn't it 4 min from the formation lap that all 4 wheels must be on? Max front damage radio told so I remember.
penalties for:
-Sbinnala
-*i am speeeed*
-wrong guido pitstop
3:29 when has this ever been instigated cannot remember when if ever I’ve seen this
Add this one : touching cars
You should do a several hour video on all of the rules and regulations
"Who really has 5 hours to spare?"
Me, Matt. I do.
The number of times he said "Panalty" in this video 😂
DRS train would be agreat topic for the next video
Please make a video about every penalties
I didn't click that this was a video from last year and was shocked when Sassy Masi appeared on my screen 🤣
A lot of people not happy with no reserve in the pit lane rule.
I'm getting sick of penalities these days, Indycar has the opposite issue, they barely penalise anything.
This video would be three times as long in the era of spare cars
I love how they go on about safety in the pit is everything but then go and use the pit lane for punishment mean making cars drive down there unnecessarily
1:35 Ben daly
And Matt Gallagher. I miss them
Didn't notice that😂
For unsafe release I saw that drivers got 5 sec time penalty
So running a driver off track is worth 2 points on a License-but causing A massive crash that resulted in a driver being Hospitalised is only about 10 seconds seems legit
As dodgy as it seems on the face of it, he was awarded that penalty during the race, and it'd be werid if they slapped something on after the fact.
Your pit crew doing something stupid that then gets YOU a penalty sure blows.
One week later this video is uploaded u guys will see worst disqualification penalty after race
Taking corners at RBR.
Love how he literally left out crashing during a race
I can understand that the rules must be implementading by Mr Stewart always be proven fair. but it is deeming dependent of iguallity during of his judgements, take for instance of the Leclair manouvres latelly, he never ever was advised to change his behavior on the tracks.
Maybe Hamilton should have gotten a grid place penalty? I feel like time penalties work as designed for most drivers, but hamilton just picks up the pace and gets into 1st anyways.
The strangest would have to be the sanction Al Pease received. He was disqualified from the Canadian Grand Prix in 1969 for "driving too slowly"
There was also the driver who got disqualified for driving in a race he hadn't qualified for....
@@RJSRdg can't beat Hans Heyer, lol
I was hoping you could explain the driver license penalties that can lead to a ban. Follow up video maybe?
Question, if a driver is given a race suspension. Is the team allowed to replaced that driver for the race or are they forced to enter the race with one car?
answer is yes. teams can then use backup drivers. example: when Grosjean was suspented for 2012 italy gp. there was Jérôme d'Ambrosio who replaced grosjean on 2012 italy Gp
What's a "more extensive time penalty?"
like a 15 penalty like leclerc in suzuka
@@niels_o was that in 2019? I was wondering cos I can't remember any penalties of 15 or more seconds
@@eoghanburke2581 either 2019 or 2018
@@eoghanburke2581 i just checked to make sure and he got a 15 second penalty post race in Suzuka 2019
Also i think Kimi got a 20 second time penalty for the collision with Seb in Austria
Driver: *isnt Lewis Hamilton
FIA: disqualified for illegal move
I started thinking about this 2 years ago when Vettel got a 5-second penalty for cutting across a chicane and unsafely rejoining the track in front of Hamilton; Vettel finished ahead of Hamilton but finished P2 because of the penalty.
What if, instead of such a massive penalty as 5 seconds in this day of super fast cars, make the standard penalty the be 2(P20-P1). For those not mathematically inclined, it's twice the difference between the times of the pole sitter and the car in P20. So, if Mazepin qualifies in p20 with a time 2 seconds slower than the pole sitter, the standard penalty for that race will be 2 seconds x 2 = 4 seconds. Instead of 10 second penalties, just quadruple the difference to 8 seconds. In other words, each race will have its own penalty times. That would be interesting.
Min. 1L fuel after race reg is so dumb!! SV lost his podium too 😭
Technical regs are much more strict. They often have one standard penalty, which often is a DSQ unfortunately.
Is there an rule book definition for “Predominantly?” Because legally it’s different (percentage based, can be anywhere from 51-75%, in the U.S. at least) based upon the law to which it refers.
Murder
Edit: I just checked the rules, it’s not illegal in f1
your point? the fia dont penalizes theft, tax fraud and assault thats the job of governments
@@niels_o r/wooosh
NO NO MIKEY THAT WAS SO NOT RIGHT
masi cooks a race haha! He create a rule where cars between hamilton ang verstappen can overake the guide car so that verstappen could win with his fresh tire..
So what happens if after 5 mins before the race it suddenly chucks it down with rain. Surely they would be able to swap the tyres from dry to intermediate
OMG MATT U MISSED ONE!!!
1:35 Tom Bellingham P11 i saw it 😁
Can someone explain 5 second penalty rule,If the driver doesn't need to pit, the time penalty will be added to their time at the end of the race. How will this total time penalty affect his race at the end of race?
Rules breaches in the pitlane are 100% always a penalty, the form is not always the same, but everething in the pitlane is like a yes or no decision for the stewards. On track its a bit different.
He forgot to mention that the I'm British and I drive for Merc free passes exist for some rules
I was watching flex seal commercials and when I saw that at 1:22 I was amazed
2.05 thats very dispectful towards Ferrari , whose has a huge history in F1
A channel like yours should learn to show respect towards every team
I think Michael Massi isn't a name I should be supposed to know. I feel nowadays there are new rules every race and they have no real clue what to enforce when and how.
One day I’ll be old enough to not laugh after someone said: penalized
in everything, if is FIA's will.
Great video man
The baby getting eun over dude at like 0:24
2:05 what if a driver goes 91 kmh through the pitlane
what about entering the track with the red light at the end of pit road ?
bro, your videos are very nice.
5:32 well…. I guess it doesnt apply to lewis after this weekend lmao
remember Jerez 97 when Schumi try to crash Villeneuve out of the race to win wdc but failed and lost and DSQ
grid penalties for using new parts is absolute stupid penalty
may be 5 second pinalty can replace with long lap pinalty like moto gp
Hamilton should’ve gotten a Drive Through penalty button
👇
Wrong. "The details at the heart of the Hamilton/Verstappen F1 clash debate" www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-verstappen-crash-details/6634384/amp/
FIA NOT stewards have found Lewis not guilty now
@@chriscollins550 Who has found Lewis not guilty now? Even the article you sent reinforces that he is predominantly to blame, even using Lewis fight against Leclerc as an example of what he should have done against Max
Idk because tbh even if Hamilton for a drive through the team would know that and then put Hamilton on hards to begin with after the red flag so that he can go long on them and would still think that he would get Leclerc anyways
@@luccass6793 max should of done what Leclerc did. Aslo do you know what predominantly means? Basically both driver's are at fault.