This is why I’m now starting to find some new respect to the relationship Lewis and him had. Different reasons but blocking challenges each had to endure. 🤔
Fun fact: by the early to mid-90s, Banco Nacional was basically broke but Senna kept carrying the brand logo and wearing the cap out of loyalty for their help early in his career even though he could get better sponsors. The bank folded a year after Ayrton's death. Respect to Ayrton for sticking up with those who helped him first.
Surprised there wasn't a mention about Sir Jackie Stewart, considering the family links to Ford dealerships and how he got into F1. I've always said paid drivers keep F1 afloat, it's just that the few that become successful, don't get tarnished with the 'pay driver' stigma like the not so successful ones
Actually, no. Jackie Stewart got into F1 after turning down two offers-from Cooper and Lotus-because he didn't think he was ready. He joined BRM in 1965 to partner Graham Hill. Stewart's connections to Ford came about when he was with Tyrrell, often appearing in adverts and doing personal appearances. The relationship continued even after he retired, and when Stewart decided to take his son Paul's junior team up to F1, he went to Ford for backing
Sir Jackie Stewart 🏁🏆🍾🏁🏆🍾🏁🏆🍾....had a solid offer from Ferrari for 1968 JYS talked with Ken Tyrrell about the deal . He asked JYS would he consider driving for him If he could provide him with a competitive car . JYS he would if KT could match Ferrari 's offer Ken put a call to Walter Hayes FORD Europe. Not only would FORD pay JYS retainer , they would supply Tyrrell with FREE Cosworth FORD engines to power MATRA F1 chassis that Ken would run in conjunction with MATRA with their V12 effort FREE engines from FORD FREE chassis from MATRA FREE Tyres from DUNLOP
Nobody is against pay drivers, but the sport got so expensive that practicly only drivers that come from a billionaire background can afford it, and a lot of good guys are out of a drive.
when the sports have machinery or tools or specialized equipment in it, it will get expensive depending on the price. From super known sports like football where you can play barefoot but need to have certain things like shoes to play pro at least in football academy(also not free), to Tennis where you obviously need Racket and Tennis Ball, heck even esports need pc which cost money. from a photo profile of you, you can go play karting(either rent or have one doesn't matter) where I cant afford to rent it, very expensive for me maybe not for you...it's relative, but at least I can afford wifi for college and my project where I can do some things around motorsports albeit not directly drive the car, where some people might don't have wifi or even school laptop this sucks sure but that is the reality, my take isn't perfect but it shows a bit why things are kinda unfair when the money involved
What? Loads of people hate on pay drivers, just look at how much hate Stroll has had chucked at him for the last few years purely because he comes from a rich background.....
Matt was almost on point calling Erste Österreichische "Bank number 1", I first thought he knew it meant "First Austrian". But Raiffeisen doesn't mean second, so I guess it was just a funny coincidence.
I didn't even know Raiffeisen Bank is a Bank outside of Germany. I grew up with it here in the Berchtesgadener Land but the maternal side of my family from near Frankfurt am Main in Hessen also were all having their Money at the Raiffeisen Bank, only in the past 10 years they went "away" around here Prost & Cheers from the Berchtesgadener Land in the Bavarian Alps
@@chartreux1532 It‘s a Swiss bank. Me on the other hand didn‘t know that Raiffeisen was outside of Switzerland as well, as it‘s one of the smaller banks.
@@thesnackbandit you could say that Mick is actually a pay driver, since it's Ferrari who is paying for his Haas seat, and he's not getting any money from the team he races for.
Thank you so much for bringing the story of how Senna got to F1... Many Brazilians don't know Senna's past... they think he got to F1, just with his skills... which is partly true... Unfortunately, the Brazilian media does not disclose the origin of several drivers, for example: Senna, Piquet or Fittipaldi... these families had, or still have, good political relations... and they were always rich families or with some influence.
Every brazilian knows that. It's very well regarded the financial backing of Senna and Fittipaldi. I don't know what you're talking about. Piquet however is an exception. He sold his sister's car just to pay for the flight to England. He did NOT come from wealthy family. He worked at a car repair shop from 15 to 17 years old. He may have been the son of a politician, but he cut ties with his family long before going to F1. And if you think Lauda had to risk his life and pay 100k pounds in the early 70's, the 10k pounds Senna had to pay in the early 80's are nothing. Senna did manage to make it on his own, as everyone in this list did.
@@tnightwolf he's the real goat. He's the goat to other goats. Like Alonso, Schumacher and Hamilton. If you're the GOAT's GOAT, then you can't be more GOAT than that.
@@DimitriMoreira All i'm saying is that some people might act as if, to even nowadays become a F1 driver, you can actually come from a poor family and just do Kart as you please... meanwhile a random team like Renault will just pick you up and make you their driver! XD At no point in Car Racing History (unless you where an engineering genius, have rich friends or are a conman) has anyone ever made pro coming from a poor family. The fact that it involves a competitive-car should make it a no-brainer argument... just saying... You might not like it, but when it comes to any kind of car-racing (apart some very few exceptions) it is nothing more than a mixture of wealth, skill and luck. Ofc, if you don't have talent, then it doesn't really mater how rich you are when it comes to competitive play. The point i'm trying to do (and i think you agree with it, but the way you phrased it first was just awkward to me... me being Tuga XD) is that despite the luck that Senna had being born into a rich family, imo, it doesn't detract a bit from his talent! To this day he is still the GOAT for me, simply for what he showed me in the track.
@@DimitriMoreira true they may have had the financial backing but they all figured out ways to market and advertise themselves right into that pool full of cash, never thought about it like that. good point.
4:12 I know the story but every time I listen to Laudas plans back in the days I'm just impressed 1. how convinced he was in his talent and 2. what a madlad he was coming to financials
@@marceline4935 after he has the Daniel ricciardo syndrome, well yeah you're right, but he proved what he was in force India racing pt and maybe the first 2 years in Redbull
There's a massive difference between having sponsors believe in you because you show talent, and having a billionaire dad paying for literally anything you ask...
I feel like this comment might be targeted at Mazepin and Latifi and whilst they're taking away seats from more talented drivers, they're certainly no bums if you look at their junior careers and are levels above the awful pay drivers of the 80s and 90s. Back then bottom end teams would take just about anyone with cash.
@@vendanohac we'll see, Micks brother David was in F3 last year and did pretty well, who knows which one got the WDC genetics. could be neither, we'll have to wait and see if his brother makes it into F1. which brings up another point, where would his brother go? williams then mercedes? 'cause I cant see Ferrari actually having two Schumachers in the same team.
@@unfortunately_fortunate2000 David isn't Micks brother, he is his cousin. David is son of Ralf Schumacher. To be honest I don't see him coming to F1. He would have to show incredible talent, given the current competition and the policy of paid drivers, which are preferred before the F2 champions, only because the money. But we will see. I can imagine him going to McLaren. Because I think Ricciardo will be there maybe for his last season or two and I don't see Pato O'Ward joining F1 McLaren team either. All is posible, maybe we will see two Schumachers being rivals to each others in Ferrari and McLaren car. And we must also consider possibility of Andretti F1 team, or Audi, or Porsche joining F1 grid.
I knew about the Schumacher Mercedes deal as well as Perez but the others I wasn't aware of. Thing is, back in the 80s and early to mid 90s there were so much more teams in F1. Those small teams even needed the money from pay drivers to survive. Today with only ten teams and so much more drivers available it sometimes feels unfair if a pay driver is chosen over talent. Question still remains if it would be better to have only talented drivers in only ten teams or have 12 or 13 teams with pay drivers? As much as I'd like to see a bigger grid again I'm not sure if the latter would be a better solution.
Todays drivers have powerful financial backing. Norris and Hulkenberg are very much pay drivers, billionaire families. Albon is backed by big money but now less than before so he can only afford to drive a Williams now. How much is talent and how much is money nowadays is easy to answer, its mostly money.
The 1981 Senna deal was 100.000 if I’m right. Fun fact: the team owner of one of the junior teams he joined was joking with him after a race before he joined them he’d give him a seat for free if he wants. Senna than went to him in the end of ‘82 to join them for the 1983 season for free. In the end he had to pay for the seat, but still way less than you’d pay for the seat usually.
Lmao you really think Hamilton's bad because he won a lot ? Latifi crashing and giving Max the win gave him death threats from Hamilton fans. If Latifi crashed and gave the win to Lewis instead, Max fans would have killed him by now and you know it.
@Jamie Mels There's no need for me to. I could sit here and parrot everything that has been said before "Masi gave Max the win", "It's Lewis's win, Max can only win with bent rules" etc., I'm not gonna though because there's no point. You lot got your win, and now are on your high horse looking down on Lewis fans and honestly, I'd rather not be involved in this clusterfuck. All we can do is hope 2022 gives us a fair fight and that we can come to a reasonable agreement no matter who wins (Personally want Leclerc to win but we'll see).
@@DimitriMoreira Jenson Button described him as the best driver at getting results out of terrible cars. He got several podiums out of the '97 Jordan and the Benetton cars from 1998 to 2001, all of which were pretty mediocre cars let's be honest.
I may get destroyed in the comments for this but the first one I thought of was lando Norris, although he is a great driver he did pay his way though junior categories. He did get into F1 on merit however
For me the question has always been. Does he deserve to be on the grid? The answer is of course, let’s find out. Of course not everyone gets the ‘fair shot’ and that’s where the arguments come in. Most drivers that get a seat deserve two seasons to prove themselves in my opinion although Nikita was so bad last year which tests that policy.
Michael Schumacher helped out a lot at the karting track in Kerpen during his go-karting days to pay back the karting club that supported him. He later trained as a car mechanic. In return, his instructor Willi Bergmeister supported him a little. A little later, Willi Weber and Mercedes came into the picture.
A sponsor paying your way due to your talent and promise doesn’t make you a pay driver. Using your personal wealth like Latifi, Stroll, or Mazepin to secure a seat does.
Even Hamilton an Verstappen are "Pay Drivers" Without the backup of Mercedes and Red Bull throughout their career they may not even bee in F1. IMO this shouldnt even be a thing to discuss because F1 always have been a rich ppl sport.
Vettel with Red Bull, Schumacher with Mercedes. The point is that they were all supported by companies with active & ongoing involvement in motorsport.
@@thesunnynationg No, my point is that Mercedes and Red Bull were already involved in motorsport before they backed Schumacher, Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen. Which is different to companies like Telmex or Mazepin’s company, which specifically came into single seaters to sponsor the one (or two) drivers.
Thats different tho, they are supported because of their talent, hamilton got that sponsorship at 12 because he was extremely skilled unlike someone like latifi and mazepin who had go buy their ways into a seat.
Actually.. Alain Prost ..was briefly retired when he took off end of 1991 season and entire 1992 season after getting FIRED from Ferrari end of 1991. He then came out of that brief retirement to drive for Williams 1993. He WON his 4th World Drivers Championship ..and retired for good when Senna was signed for 1994
Yep.....Alain Prost signed a 2 year deal for 1993 and 1994 season. When Prost heard that Frank Williams had signed Senna to a NEW multiyear deal , Prost asked William's to buy him out of his last year contract Alain ABSOLUTELY refused to be teammates again with Senna after what took place at McLaren..
1:18 The Sponsor on the car, Autohaus Paul Korn Koblenz is actually a quite loved car Dealership with a great repairshop that was quite loved in the "VW Van" community pre 2000 Rip Mr. Paul Korn (2005)
One essay from 10th grade and another for 11th grade were about how being a may driver doesn’t define your whole career. I used Lauda, Schumi, Lando, and Perez’s defending to make it really easy for me to defend pay drivers.
Gerhard Berger. He only got into F1 and his seats 1984, 1985 and 1986 with BMW support and in 1989 he was the first ever Driver of the Red Bull sponsorship program. He went on to win 10 Races and one of the top five drivers for over a decade.
@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 But Senna presumably had made a deal in his contract with Lotus/McLaren/WIlliams for image rights. Hence why the logo could appear on his overall and caps.
@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 I’m not talking about the cars. The teams design the fireproof overalls. So presumably there was something in their respective driver contracts to allow Senna (and other drivers where applicable) to add their own sponsor logos. Off-topic to the discussion of “pay drivers”, it’s just a topic where I’m wondering if anyone has any further insight.
Prost never said he retired after being fired by Ferrari end of 1991. 1992 he tested Ligier-Renault but withdraw his plans to race for them as he knew that car sucked. Shortly after he signed the contract with Williams for 1993 in spring 1992 already.
This list should have included Lance Stroll. I mean, he’s like the definitive pay driver but He’s also a race winner. Edit: This aged poorly. This aged so poorly. Wtf Y’all 😂
Not a race winner (yet). He had two opportunities to win a race. Once, as a pole sitter on the slippiest track I remember seeing (Turkey 2020), he managed to keep everyone at bay... until his pit strategy backfired. Still, that weekend showed how despite being a pay driver, there's no way he's not deserving of an F1 seat, and under difficult track conditions, he's potentially a top 5 talent. The second time (Italy 2020), after lucking into a post red flag pole, he messed up his launch, leaving the door open for a Gasly win.
Also should've won Sakhir, all he needed to do was overtake Ocon before his team mate came all the way from the back of the grid to show him how it's done. You could say he deserves his midfield F1 seat (the same way Giovinazzi would have deserved it for another year), but let's face it, if his dad wasn't running the team, Stroll would have gotten the boot when they hired Vettel. And he certainly wouldn't have been on Red Bull's shortlist to replace Albon.
Nice video, showing all the newer f1 fans some of the best pay drivers, I bet a video on the not so good f1 pay drivers over the last 30 years would have to be split into 3 videos as there has been many of them
I love how you immediately belt out Senna to help showcase that not every paid driver is like Mazepin, because that's where people usually say that paid drivers are trash.
His car is very trash, and on top of that, as someone who knows him on a personal level, rather than people who don't, and just make unnecessary comments, a lot of the money he spends is his. He helped Urakrali grow, he invests in other places, and on top of that, he is a very caring giver to those who need. Despite his controversial situation with the prosti- I mean woman, he really isn't that trash of a person. But when we spoke, he also said that the car was very bottom heavy, causing tailspins, and his car felt very unaligned . but as far as his cash, even tho Dmitry has a big part to play, a lot of Niki's own money went into that
I don't agree that you count as "pay driver" if you get paid by a sponsor. In the end its always the driver or the team who has sponsors, but having sponsors means that you are good enough that someone believes in your skill. Who should count as a pay driver is someone whos family pays for their kids, like Mazepin and afaik Latifi and I think still also Stroll.
Well, a lot of Niki's own money went into F1 as well as his fathers. He isn't handed money like people think he does, a lot if his money is smart investments. In his own words to me "Invest in medical and technology stocks. Its the future, and will get you very far"
I think when we talk about pay driver, Nikita Mazepin was a curious case of it. Seemingly, he's not that a genuine championship contender that everyone wanted. But his junior career is pretty decent. In his first and only season, he managed to finished 3rd in GP3. He went on to F2 later on 2019, however his first season with ART was somewhat dreadful. Finished in bottom with him only finished higher than Tatiana Calderon and...Lord Mahaveer. Still tho, he was still showing some promised that year. At a test at Catalunya that year, driving the Mercedes W10, Mazepin manage to break the lap record of the track at some point before finished behind Valtteri Bottas by 2 tenths off. For a guy that never drive the car that was such OP (i mean racing point literally tracing that car for 2020 and went on having impressive results as well) that was impressive. And then 2020 happened. This is where the turning point for Mazepin came in where he drive for Hitech. Driving a team that had little to none experience in F2, and with abysmal performance season before, you would thought Mazepin would finish dead last and retire his racing dreams. Mazepin went on to take 2 fastest lap and 2 win before settling down for 5th in the standings and his team 4th in teams championship. Infact, Mazepin actually competes for 3rd that season before some excursions happened at Bahrain forced him to finished 5th in the standings. That was really impressive, for a guy that was basically dead last driving a less experienced team to get such a result. Compare to Latifi and Zhou who i thought their career is more of a stagnant. Mazepin actually shows progressed that racing driver rarely has. Sure, and the end of the day. He was just daddy's little boy, and a douchebag whether you view him from woman stand point or not. But his career is something that people seems to forget, and his kinda a few rare pay driver that actually worth signed (The other was Lance Stroll in that regard, i mean who wouldn't sign a kid that was purely dominating F3 by almost 50 points and pays you back?). And you can't judge his career from his Haas career, that car is as good as a ford Pinto. I'd say let's see his progress in next couple of season if we want to consider him as failure or not.
Well, first off, it was one woman, and he was drunk, so you can't hold that against him too much, especially if the girl is enjoying it at first, only to change later. But yet.. People will exaggerate what happened
On a second note, as someone who knows Niki on a personal level (I'm not his best friend, but we do speak. And we do conversate on midly deep stuff from time to time) he actually isn't all that spoiled as people who never knew him make him out to seem. A lot of the money he has wasn't given to him, as he helped with his father's company grow, he does invest his money is places, and he is a kind giver. Despite the "spoiled brat" hate he gets, a lot of his money he gets from investing it into stocks, and other businesses. So, yea..
Also, not all women hate him. But hey have exaggerated the truth saying "he grap3d a child" when the woman was 21, and he nevr grape is very extreme. I've seen what they say in the twitter, it is very toxic, and very sad to see
@@lilnotmaster6094 Now i want to make a statement that term "Daddy's little boy" is not just associate with Mazepin. Drivers such as Stroll, Latifi, even both Lando Norris and Lewis Hamilton could be consider as Daddy's little boy. Sure, the story of Lewis Hamilton's dad funding him was one of the most touching story in F1, but do you think Dmitri Mazepin didn't do the same to Nikita? Building a gas company into one of the largest gas company in the world is not an easy task. I think i agree people are over exaggerating stuff that didn't needs to. People bash Mazepin's father company just because Russia cut the gas pipe bringing it's price into bubble. Or when haas launch it's russian livery people were salty. Yeah, they could had better livery, but don't people had other things to care about aside livery? Like how it would be competitive? Mazepin actually proved that if he wants to be competitive, he needs to be within the team that could support him. tbh don't exactly think Mick would act as a good teammate, i think they should stick to either Grosjean or Magnussen last year and let one of the seat being filled by either Schumi or Mazepin.
@@homeperson11244 I think Dmitry is a bit more protective of him due to his lack of relationship with his mom. I won't say much, but I noticed he acted a certain way when I asked about his mom
Somewhat surprised that Pedro Diniz was not on this list. Sure thing he never won a race or even got a podium, but when compared to the breed of drivers who paid substantial money (we're talking millions of pounds over the 6 years, sources stated the sponsorship he took to Arrows in 1997 was worth $13 million) to get an F1 seat he still held his own quite well. Especially during the era where he began racing in the mid-1990s where other pay drivers included Lavaggi or Délétraz Sr. Basically, Diniz also deserves to get a mention even though to younger fans he may perhaps be classified as something of an obscure racing driver.
idk why hes talking about ayrton senna, when he lived in brazil, yes he was rich, but that wealth did not carry over when he went to europe. in the first parts of his career, he had to eat eggs everyday, and he had to learn english through the tv, if that sounds rich to you then i am elon musk
@@sebastianflores9656 absolutely. Do you not know the Turkey race in 2020 when he led almost the entire race and pulled a 10 second gap to Perez behind until he experienced tyre graining?
@@sebastianflores9656 Turkey 2020 was screwed up for him by some questionable strategy and tires that had graining much quicker than anyone else's. On pace alone he should have won that race quite comfortably.
@@sergeygeorgiy9154 You don't think the tyre graining had something to do with him pulling that gap in the first place? Or rather, Perez allowing him to pull that gap had something to do with Perez' tyres remaining in better shape? Stroll was standing in Perez' way and backed him into Hamilton's clutches when they eventually called him into the pits. That pitstop was overdue. A win was never really on the cards in that race. He should however have won both Monza and Sakhir that year. In Monza he was virtually on pole for the restart (second behind Hamilton who already got the penalty) thanks to incredible luck with strategy and the timing of the red flag. But he gave it all away with a horrible first lap. In Sakhir, he had about half the race to find a way past Ocon and get himself in the prime position to benefit of Mercedes' pitstop blunder. But instead, he eventually outbraked himself, had to let his team mate Perez by who had come ALL THE WAY from the back of the grid, only for Perez to show him how it's done within two laps. Stroll is not bad, but if he was something truly special, like the drivers on this list, he would've won at least one of those races.
3:32 xDDDDD as an austrian I didn't even realize how difficult it is to say the bank names just an info: erste Österreichische just means first austrian, makes in english eqal sense as in german
This video was desperately needed, plenty of people forget that the path to becoming a pro racing driver is extremely expensive; in other words every driver in F1 and other categories have paid for their way in.
f1 was a very serious sport back in the days... the risk of death of was very high. pay drivers back then were talented drivers who wanted to risk it all... nowadays paydrivers are just some kids whose dads were interested in f1.
No it's actually the other way around. Today it's much harder for a pay driver to get in F1. Back in the 70/60's literally anyone who could buy a car could join the race and finish 5 laps down on the rest.
I think Alonso had already signed for Minardi before they sold the contract rights to Briatore/Renault. He won a test for Minardi as prize for the 1999 Open By Nissan Championship and they were immediately impressed by his speed so they wanted to signed him right away
He won the test but the Minardi seat was paid not by Briatore but by Adrián Campos (a forer Spanish F1 driver) who managed Alonso at that time. Campos was also a former Minardi driver.
Some comment : Österreichische Sparkasse, which Matt had difficulty to say,is literally Austrian Piggybank in German.They were mainly operating savings accounts for Austrians in 70's with Austrian Schilling as national currency.
10:21 I love how nobody talks about how checo was a collossal screw up right up until he joined Force india. Nikita mazepin has had the most suprising start in f1 for me. The fact that any team is that desperate for cash that they would that utterly talentless rich boy drive a car amazes me.
I mean pay driver always has a grain of salt to it, but there is a difference between convincing a company to sponsor you (because therefore they have to see something in you) or getting a seat because daddy owns the team or the company that sponsors you. Even then pay driver dont have to be bad, but currently they are
You forgot to mention Mazepin -Getting the fastest lap in the slowest car -Getting the fastest lap in the slowest car, in spa, the most challenging circuit -Getting the fastest lap in the slowest car ,in spa ,the most challenging circuit, while raining
I’m fine with someone paying there way bc they have talent. It is when some pays there way and they don’t have the talent that’s when they need to be dropped.
Imagine how much talent there is that simply can’t afford F1? Are Senna, Vettel, Schumacher, Hamilton, Lauda, Piquet, Alonso, etc. even that good compared to the talent that just simply can’t afford to even compete in a go kart? 🤔 no offense to those guys by the way! I love all of them!
Was he actually retired? I thought he was just out of a drive following the Ferrari blowup and sat out a season. He hadn't made the call that he was out of the sport and lured back.
When it comes to pay drivers, I only thought about the likes of Paul Belmondo, Olivier Beretta, Taki Inoue, Pedro Diniz, Ricardo Rosset, Gaston Mazzacane, Alex Yoong, who were actually pretty terrible. Thanks for bringing these cases to my attention, too!
Lol funny how everyone thinks fosters is what Aussies drink and funny to think they have the money to sponsor an f1 driver. As an Aussie and somewhat an alcoholic I have never once in my life seen someone drink fosters nor do I ever see it at any bottle shop we drink real beer down under
Lauda was less off a pay driver and more of a debt driver, the balls on the guy though jeez
This is why I’m now starting to find some new respect to the relationship Lewis and him had. Different reasons but blocking challenges each had to endure. 🤔
He paid his way into f1 and then talented his way into Ferrari
@@un6250 yeah, i mean the results speak for themselves
He had so much nuts lol
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Fun fact: by the early to mid-90s, Banco Nacional was basically broke but Senna kept carrying the brand logo and wearing the cap out of loyalty for their help early in his career even though he could get better sponsors. The bank folded a year after Ayrton's death.
Respect to Ayrton for sticking up with those who helped him first.
That is brand loyalty
I wish Malaysia's #1 bank, BSN (Bank Simpanan Nasional) gives me a seat in F1 someday...
@@madkhaliqfarhan i wish that the Sparkasse wiuld finance my ADAC F4 appearance
@@tight_cicada let's ask them together if they're willing to found an entire new team for us! xD
That is why he is successful
The first one that came to mind was Lauda
Same
Yeah
I learned this from watching Rush
Yh he was good
And also blackmail
Surprised there wasn't a mention about Sir Jackie Stewart, considering the family links to Ford dealerships and how he got into F1. I've always said paid drivers keep F1 afloat, it's just that the few that become successful, don't get tarnished with the 'pay driver' stigma like the not so successful ones
Actually, no. Jackie Stewart got into F1 after turning down two offers-from Cooper and Lotus-because he didn't think he was ready. He joined BRM in 1965 to partner Graham Hill. Stewart's connections to Ford came about when he was with Tyrrell, often appearing in adverts and doing personal appearances. The relationship continued even after he retired, and when Stewart decided to take his son Paul's junior team up to F1, he went to Ford for backing
Sir Jackie Stewart 🏁🏆🍾🏁🏆🍾🏁🏆🍾....had a solid offer from Ferrari for 1968 JYS talked with Ken Tyrrell about the deal . He asked JYS would he consider driving for him If he could provide him with a competitive car .
JYS he would if KT could match Ferrari 's offer
Ken put a call to Walter Hayes FORD Europe.
Not only would FORD pay JYS retainer , they would supply Tyrrell with FREE Cosworth FORD engines to power MATRA F1 chassis that Ken would run in conjunction with MATRA with their V12 effort
FREE engines from FORD
FREE chassis from MATRA
FREE Tyres from DUNLOP
Didn’t he Drive for Brabaham and Lotus? That has nothing to do with Ford lmao
I don't mind pay drivers earning their way out of the name lol. When they don't they are what they are lol.
Well connected driver rather than a pay driver. He didn't pay for his seats
Nobody is against pay drivers, but the sport got so expensive that practicly only drivers that come from a billionaire background can afford it, and a lot of good guys are out of a drive.
when the sports have machinery or tools or specialized equipment in it, it will get expensive depending on the price.
From super known sports like football where you can play barefoot but need to have certain things like shoes to play pro at least in football academy(also not free), to Tennis where you obviously need Racket and Tennis Ball, heck even esports need pc which cost money.
from a photo profile of you, you can go play karting(either rent or have one doesn't matter) where I cant afford to rent it, very expensive for me maybe not for you...it's relative, but at least I can afford wifi for college and my project where I can do some things around motorsports albeit not directly drive the car, where some people might don't have wifi or even school laptop
this sucks sure but that is the reality, my take isn't perfect but it shows a bit why things are kinda unfair when the money involved
Racing has always been a rich man's hobby. Even the drivers from "poor" backgrounds were quite wealthy compared to an avarage Joe.
Lots of people are against pay drivers lol
What? Loads of people hate on pay drivers, just look at how much hate Stroll has had chucked at him for the last few years purely because he comes from a rich background.....
@@blargd not to mention Mazepin
I think it's hard to compare pay drivers of different eras to those of today. However, it certainly does show just how hard it is to crack into F1.
Yeah,I'm Ok With It
And then there is my love Esteban!
How is it hard to compare different eras?
There were plenty of useless pay drivers in every era of F1 so it's pretty easy to make a direct comparison between then and now
Every F1 driver needs decent financial backing these days.
And this video is why I appreciate pay drivers.
Without them the sport would not survive.
as an austrian the way you pronounced Sparkassa & Raiffeisen is absulutely hilarious 😂
Rush did an amazing job portraying Lauda’s finesse job at BRM. His negotiations were out of pure desperation
Yep. Negotiation wise, you have to learn from Berger. Always the biggest salary, never the better driver.
It's so fun to hear Matt trying to say the banks names.
These Austrian bank names may are difficult for our British lad here but…..
(Laughs in German)
As a german speaker, it's horrible.
Deutsche Sprache, schwere Sprache...
Just like he always botches both Schumacher's forename and surname, but that accounts for almost all native English-speaking people.
@@julianlieb929 In fairness, British “Michael” is completely different to German “Michael”.
Matt was almost on point calling Erste Österreichische "Bank number 1", I first thought he knew it meant "First Austrian". But Raiffeisen doesn't mean second, so I guess it was just a funny coincidence.
I'm actually surprised that Erste bank and Raiffeisen isn't more known
@@ptztmm For us in Hungary they're quite ubiquitous, but I'm guessing they don't have that much presence in the UK.
I didn't even know Raiffeisen Bank is a Bank outside of Germany. I grew up with it here in the Berchtesgadener Land but the maternal side of my family from near Frankfurt am Main in Hessen also were all having their Money at the Raiffeisen Bank, only in the past 10 years they went "away" around here
Prost & Cheers from the Berchtesgadener Land in the Bavarian Alps
@@chartreux1532 It‘s a Swiss bank. Me on the other hand didn‘t know that Raiffeisen was outside of Switzerland as well, as it‘s one of the smaller banks.
@@alexanderthegreat11 No, Raiffesien is originally Austrian, it just has subsidiaries in other countries as well.
let's think about it, both Schumachers paid to get in and one was the best driver ever so let's see what happens
but only for their first races. Not seasons
Lauda is also good
I mean Mick didn't pay to get in, but the name did certainly help. He did win the f2 championship albeit in a weak field.
@@thesnackbandit you could say that Mick is actually a pay driver, since it's Ferrari who is paying for his Haas seat, and he's not getting any money from the team he races for.
@@lucatarolli7950 and does Lewis being sponsored from 12yrs on by McLaren/Mercedes make him a pay driver?
Thank you so much for bringing the story of how Senna got to F1... Many Brazilians don't know Senna's past... they think he got to F1, just with his skills... which is partly true...
Unfortunately, the Brazilian media does not disclose the origin of several drivers, for example: Senna, Piquet or Fittipaldi... these families had, or still have, good political relations... and they were always rich families or with some influence.
True, but there is no denying the man is one of the very best drivers in F1 history.
Every brazilian knows that. It's very well regarded the financial backing of Senna and Fittipaldi. I don't know what you're talking about.
Piquet however is an exception. He sold his sister's car just to pay for the flight to England. He did NOT come from wealthy family. He worked at a car repair shop from 15 to 17 years old.
He may have been the son of a politician, but he cut ties with his family long before going to F1.
And if you think Lauda had to risk his life and pay 100k pounds in the early 70's, the 10k pounds Senna had to pay in the early 80's are nothing.
Senna did manage to make it on his own, as everyone in this list did.
@@tnightwolf he's the real goat. He's the goat to other goats. Like Alonso, Schumacher and Hamilton. If you're the GOAT's GOAT, then you can't be more GOAT than that.
@@DimitriMoreira All i'm saying is that some people might act as if, to even nowadays become a F1 driver, you can actually come from a poor family and just do Kart as you please... meanwhile a random team like Renault will just pick you up and make you their driver! XD At no point in Car Racing History (unless you where an engineering genius, have rich friends or are a conman) has anyone ever made pro coming from a poor family. The fact that it involves a competitive-car should make it a no-brainer argument... just saying... You might not like it, but when it comes to any kind of car-racing (apart some very few exceptions) it is nothing more than a mixture of wealth, skill and luck. Ofc, if you don't have talent, then it doesn't really mater how rich you are when it comes to competitive play. The point i'm trying to do (and i think you agree with it, but the way you phrased it first was just awkward to me... me being Tuga XD) is that despite the luck that Senna had being born into a rich family, imo, it doesn't detract a bit from his talent! To this day he is still the GOAT for me, simply for what he showed me in the track.
@@DimitriMoreira true they may have had the financial backing but they all figured out ways to market and advertise themselves right into that pool full of cash, never thought about it like that. good point.
4:12
I know the story but every time I listen to Laudas plans back in the days I'm just impressed 1. how convinced he was in his talent and 2. what a madlad he was coming to financials
Bloke was smart On-track, In the garage and also in accounts
F1 fans during checo's first f1 season : 'boo paid driver, boo'
10 years later : 'checo's a legend'
Yeah, exactly as it should be.
This comment did not age well 😉
@@marceline4935 after he has the Daniel ricciardo syndrome, well yeah you're right, but he proved what he was in force India racing pt and maybe the first 2 years in Redbull
"not bad for a number 2 driver" that reference
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There's a massive difference between having sponsors believe in you because you show talent, and having a billionaire dad paying for literally anything you ask...
I feel like this comment might be targeted at Mazepin and Latifi and whilst they're taking away seats from more talented drivers, they're certainly no bums if you look at their junior careers and are levels above the awful pay drivers of the 80s and 90s. Back then bottom end teams would take just about anyone with cash.
Mazepin is the next Senna confirmed
Schumacher is the next Schumacher confirmed.
@@vendanohac we'll see, Micks brother David was in F3 last year and did pretty well, who knows which one got the WDC genetics.
could be neither, we'll have to wait and see if his brother makes it into F1.
which brings up another point, where would his brother go? williams then mercedes? 'cause I cant see Ferrari actually having two Schumachers in the same team.
@@unfortunately_fortunate2000 David isn't Micks brother, he is his cousin. David is son of Ralf Schumacher. To be honest I don't see him coming to F1. He would have to show incredible talent, given the current competition and the policy of paid drivers, which are preferred before the F2 champions, only because the money. But we will see. I can imagine him going to McLaren. Because I think Ricciardo will be there maybe for his last season or two and I don't see Pato O'Ward joining F1 McLaren team either. All is posible, maybe we will see two Schumachers being rivals to each others in Ferrari and McLaren car. And we must also consider possibility of Andretti F1 team, or Audi, or Porsche joining F1 grid.
So glad that clown ever gonna be in F1 again
Aged very well
I knew about the Schumacher Mercedes deal as well as Perez but the others I wasn't aware of.
Thing is, back in the 80s and early to mid 90s there were so much more teams in F1. Those small teams even needed the money from pay drivers to survive. Today with only ten teams and so much more drivers available it sometimes feels unfair if a pay driver is chosen over talent.
Question still remains if it would be better to have only talented drivers in only ten teams or have 12 or 13 teams with pay drivers? As much as I'd like to see a bigger grid again I'm not sure if the latter would be a better solution.
People love controversy, and F1 is called a circus for something...
Other wise this will turn something like Indy car.
*so MANY more
Not so MUCH more
You're welcome 👍🏼
Todays drivers have powerful financial backing. Norris and Hulkenberg are very much pay drivers, billionaire families. Albon is backed by big money but now less than before so he can only afford to drive a Williams now. How much is talent and how much is money nowadays is easy to answer, its mostly money.
The 1981 Senna deal was 100.000 if I’m right. Fun fact: the team owner of one of the junior teams he joined was joking with him after a race before he joined them he’d give him a seat for free if he wants. Senna than went to him in the end of ‘82 to join them for the 1983 season for free. In the end he had to pay for the seat, but still way less than you’d pay for the seat usually.
just so you know, the Ö is pronouced the same way as the noise alonso makes when he thinks of the 2015-17 f1 seasons
Latifi is still amazing. Got the whole TeamLH on ropes
Goatifi is the best
Lmao you really think Hamilton's bad because he won a lot ? Latifi crashing and giving Max the win gave him death threats from Hamilton fans. If Latifi crashed and gave the win to Lewis instead, Max fans would have killed him by now and you know it.
@Jamie Mels There's no need for me to. I could sit here and parrot everything that has been said before "Masi gave Max the win", "It's Lewis's win, Max can only win with bent rules" etc., I'm not gonna though because there's no point. You lot got your win, and now are on your high horse looking down on Lewis fans and honestly, I'd rather not be involved in this clusterfuck. All we can do is hope 2022 gives us a fair fight and that we can come to a reasonable agreement no matter who wins (Personally want Leclerc to win but we'll see).
@Jamie Mels lol
@@rahulravishankar3152 Yes
Giancarlo Fisichella deserves a mention. Only got his seat at minardi due to his Italian tobacco money, but turned out to be a decent driver
Doesn't. I like Fisico, but the honorable mentions are pretty decent drivers. Fisico isn't in the same league.
@@DimitriMoreira Jenson Button described him as the best driver at getting results out of terrible cars. He got several podiums out of the '97 Jordan and the Benetton cars from 1998 to 2001, all of which were pretty mediocre cars let's be honest.
"Not bad for a number 2 driver" nice work sliding that quote in there.
I may get destroyed in the comments for this but the first one I thought of was lando Norris, although he is a great driver he did pay his way though junior categories. He did get into F1 on merit however
For me the question has always been. Does he deserve to be on the grid? The answer is of course, let’s find out. Of course not everyone gets the ‘fair shot’ and that’s where the arguments come in. Most drivers that get a seat deserve two seasons to prove themselves in my opinion although Nikita was so bad last year which tests that policy.
Michael Schumacher helped out a lot at the karting track in Kerpen during his go-karting days to pay back the karting club that supported him. He later trained as a car mechanic. In return, his instructor Willi Bergmeister supported him a little. A little later, Willi Weber and Mercedes came into the picture.
A sponsor paying your way due to your talent and promise doesn’t make you a pay driver. Using your personal wealth like Latifi, Stroll, or Mazepin to secure a seat does.
So many "the office" memes in a video about f1, love it!
Even Hamilton an Verstappen are "Pay Drivers"
Without the backup of Mercedes and Red Bull throughout their career they may not even bee in F1.
IMO this shouldnt even be a thing to discuss because F1 always have been a rich ppl sport.
Vettel with Red Bull, Schumacher with Mercedes. The point is that they were all supported by companies with active & ongoing involvement in motorsport.
I think it doesnt matter if companie or privat person. If you give your money to someone you expect to get it back o e way or another.
@@thesunnynationg No, my point is that Mercedes and Red Bull were already involved in motorsport before they backed Schumacher, Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen. Which is different to companies like Telmex or Mazepin’s company, which specifically came into single seaters to sponsor the one (or two) drivers.
@@bfapple oh... my bad
Yes there is a difference
Thats different tho, they are supported because of their talent, hamilton got that sponsorship at 12 because he was extremely skilled unlike someone like latifi and mazepin who had go buy their ways into a seat.
Actually..
Alain Prost ..was briefly retired when he took off end of 1991 season and entire 1992 season after getting FIRED from Ferrari end of 1991.
He then came out of that brief retirement to drive for Williams 1993.
He WON his 4th World Drivers Championship ..and retired for good when Senna was signed for 1994
I don't know if I would call it retirement, it was mostly that he couldn't find a team worth his time
@@CaseSet236 from what i have heard, from 1994, Senna could join a team where prost was, ie his teammate, so he retired
@@puuoyevigannogreven8781 yes that is correct.
Yep.....Alain Prost signed a 2 year deal for 1993 and 1994 season.
When Prost heard that Frank Williams had signed Senna to a NEW multiyear deal , Prost asked William's to buy him out of his last year contract
Alain ABSOLUTELY refused to be teammates again with Senna after what took place at McLaren..
Even a monkey would be a champ with that car
I lost it so badly at that "not bad for a number 2 driver" in the end
You actually translated the Erste österreichische Bank quite well, as it literally means First Bank of Austria :D
1:18 The Sponsor on the car, Autohaus Paul Korn Koblenz is actually a quite loved car Dealership with a great repairshop that was quite loved in the "VW Van" community pre 2000
Rip Mr. Paul Korn (2005)
Damn Lauda was a real finance guru
One essay from 10th grade and another for 11th grade were about how being a may driver doesn’t define your whole career.
I used Lauda, Schumi, Lando, and Perez’s defending to make it really easy for me to defend pay drivers.
2:52 didn't expect that one could butcher the Austrian savings bank like that lel
Gerhard Berger. He only got into F1 and his seats 1984, 1985 and 1986 with BMW support and in 1989 he was the first ever Driver of the Red Bull sponsorship program. He went on to win 10 Races and one of the top five drivers for over a decade.
About Senna, just leaving a quick note, he never raced in junior series in Brazil. He went straight from Karting in Brazil to Formula Ford in UK
Matt's pronunciations of the Austrian banks are hilarious 😂
Could you also make a video of the drivers who got in F1 without a wealthy background? That would be interesting as well.
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Missed the fact that Lauda is the only driver to win championships for both Ferrari and McLaren.
prost almost did it
Never knew Ayrton Senna payed for his seat!
Technically, he was...
He had a personal sponsor he was using to pay at Toleman. But, they are nuances between pay drivers.
@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 But Senna presumably had made a deal in his contract with Lotus/McLaren/WIlliams for image rights. Hence why the logo could appear on his overall and caps.
@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 I’m not talking about the cars. The teams design the fireproof overalls. So presumably there was something in their respective driver contracts to allow Senna (and other drivers where applicable) to add their own sponsor logos.
Off-topic to the discussion of “pay drivers”, it’s just a topic where I’m wondering if anyone has any further insight.
"the car was astronomically bad..." ***Shows 2021 Haas..
Cheeeeeeeky Matt. 😂
11:29 Rubens looks good as a Kimi impersonator!
5:14 didn’t Prost come out of retirement and win the title as well?
No, he was on a sabbatical
@@tiadaid If that's the case, Alex Albon should become the World Champion this year!
Prost never said he retired after being fired by Ferrari end of 1991. 1992 he tested Ligier-Renault but withdraw his plans to race for them as he knew that car sucked. Shortly after he signed the contract with Williams for 1993 in spring 1992 already.
It’s sucks that this sport is only for the rich. Imagine how many great drivers go unnoticed.
This list should have included Lance Stroll. I mean, he’s like the definitive pay driver but
He’s also a race winner.
Edit: This aged poorly. This aged so poorly. Wtf Y’all 😂
But not in F1
Not a race winner (yet).
He had two opportunities to win a race.
Once, as a pole sitter on the slippiest track I remember seeing (Turkey 2020), he managed to keep everyone at bay... until his pit strategy backfired. Still, that weekend showed how despite being a pay driver, there's no way he's not deserving of an F1 seat, and under difficult track conditions, he's potentially a top 5 talent.
The second time (Italy 2020), after lucking into a post red flag pole, he messed up his launch, leaving the door open for a Gasly win.
@@jgagnier you’re right I misremembered his poles as wins. I still think he’s underrated just cause he’s a pay driver but I was wrong lol
@@jgagnier he might forgot what time is it, he should check his time machine once again
Mate, he gave us a spoiler
Also should've won Sakhir, all he needed to do was overtake Ocon before his team mate came all the way from the back of the grid to show him how it's done.
You could say he deserves his midfield F1 seat (the same way Giovinazzi would have deserved it for another year), but let's face it, if his dad wasn't running the team, Stroll would have gotten the boot when they hired Vettel. And he certainly wouldn't have been on Red Bull's shortlist to replace Albon.
first one that came to mind was checo
You should put Jenson's face when you mentioned Button. 😂
couldn't resist that sweet invite to follow. What nice
I enjoyed the editions! Thanks
Nice video, showing all the newer f1 fans some of the best pay drivers, I bet a video on the not so good f1 pay drivers over the last 30 years would have to be split into 3 videos as there has been many of them
I love how you immediately belt out Senna to help showcase that not every paid driver is like Mazepin, because that's where people usually say that paid drivers are trash.
His car is very trash, and on top of that, as someone who knows him on a personal level, rather than people who don't, and just make unnecessary comments, a lot of the money he spends is his. He helped Urakrali grow, he invests in other places, and on top of that, he is a very caring giver to those who need. Despite his controversial situation with the prosti- I mean woman, he really isn't that trash of a person. But when we spoke, he also said that the car was very bottom heavy, causing tailspins, and his car felt very unaligned . but as far as his cash, even tho Dmitry has a big part to play, a lot of Niki's own money went into that
This is a very bold video and thank you for creating it. I’d bet even Lance appreciates this!
The challenges Niki Lauda faced make sense for some like Lewis Hamilton. One more reason why Lewis was attached to him through their conversations.
This easely could have been a video of some of the 🐐🐐
absolutely love all the Star Wars gifs and pics you use
now Ayrton listen.. everything you're feeling is perfectly natural. haha his dad looks like Eugene levy
I don't agree that you count as "pay driver" if you get paid by a sponsor. In the end its always the driver or the team who has sponsors, but having sponsors means that you are good enough that someone believes in your skill.
Who should count as a pay driver is someone whos family pays for their kids, like Mazepin and afaik Latifi and I think still also Stroll.
Well, a lot of Niki's own money went into F1 as well as his fathers. He isn't handed money like people think he does, a lot if his money is smart investments. In his own words to me "Invest in medical and technology stocks. Its the future, and will get you very far"
The "Österreichische Spar-Cassa" killed me😂😂
I think when we talk about pay driver, Nikita Mazepin was a curious case of it. Seemingly, he's not that a genuine championship contender that everyone wanted. But his junior career is pretty decent.
In his first and only season, he managed to finished 3rd in GP3. He went on to F2 later on 2019, however his first season with ART was somewhat dreadful. Finished in bottom with him only finished higher than Tatiana Calderon and...Lord Mahaveer. Still tho, he was still showing some promised that year. At a test at Catalunya that year, driving the Mercedes W10, Mazepin manage to break the lap record of the track at some point before finished behind Valtteri Bottas by 2 tenths off. For a guy that never drive the car that was such OP (i mean racing point literally tracing that car for 2020 and went on having impressive results as well) that was impressive.
And then 2020 happened. This is where the turning point for Mazepin came in where he drive for Hitech. Driving a team that had little to none experience in F2, and with abysmal performance season before, you would thought Mazepin would finish dead last and retire his racing dreams. Mazepin went on to take 2 fastest lap and 2 win before settling down for 5th in the standings and his team 4th in teams championship. Infact, Mazepin actually competes for 3rd that season before some excursions happened at Bahrain forced him to finished 5th in the standings. That was really impressive, for a guy that was basically dead last driving a less experienced team to get such a result. Compare to Latifi and Zhou who i thought their career is more of a stagnant. Mazepin actually shows progressed that racing driver rarely has.
Sure, and the end of the day. He was just daddy's little boy, and a douchebag whether you view him from woman stand point or not. But his career is something that people seems to forget, and his kinda a few rare pay driver that actually worth signed (The other was Lance Stroll in that regard, i mean who wouldn't sign a kid that was purely dominating F3 by almost 50 points and pays you back?). And you can't judge his career from his Haas career, that car is as good as a ford Pinto. I'd say let's see his progress in next couple of season if we want to consider him as failure or not.
Well, first off, it was one woman, and he was drunk, so you can't hold that against him too much, especially if the girl is enjoying it at first, only to change later. But yet.. People will exaggerate what happened
On a second note, as someone who knows Niki on a personal level (I'm not his best friend, but we do speak. And we do conversate on midly deep stuff from time to time) he actually isn't all that spoiled as people who never knew him make him out to seem. A lot of the money he has wasn't given to him, as he helped with his father's company grow, he does invest his money is places, and he is a kind giver. Despite the "spoiled brat" hate he gets, a lot of his money he gets from investing it into stocks, and other businesses. So, yea..
Also, not all women hate him. But hey have exaggerated the truth saying "he grap3d a child" when the woman was 21, and he nevr grape is very extreme. I've seen what they say in the twitter, it is very toxic, and very sad to see
@@lilnotmaster6094 Now i want to make a statement that term "Daddy's little boy" is not just associate with Mazepin. Drivers such as Stroll, Latifi, even both Lando Norris and Lewis Hamilton could be consider as Daddy's little boy. Sure, the story of Lewis Hamilton's dad funding him was one of the most touching story in F1, but do you think Dmitri Mazepin didn't do the same to Nikita? Building a gas company into one of the largest gas company in the world is not an easy task.
I think i agree people are over exaggerating stuff that didn't needs to. People bash Mazepin's father company just because Russia cut the gas pipe bringing it's price into bubble. Or when haas launch it's russian livery people were salty. Yeah, they could had better livery, but don't people had other things to care about aside livery? Like how it would be competitive?
Mazepin actually proved that if he wants to be competitive, he needs to be within the team that could support him. tbh don't exactly think Mick would act as a good teammate, i think they should stick to either Grosjean or Magnussen last year and let one of the seat being filled by either Schumi or Mazepin.
@@homeperson11244 I think Dmitry is a bit more protective of him due to his lack of relationship with his mom. I won't say much, but I noticed he acted a certain way when I asked about his mom
Hahaha that first bank for Lauda literally translates to “the first Austrian “ so first bank isn’t far off😂
12:37 was cheeky, I must admit.
My uncle's best friend was Banco Nacional's F1 representative and lived with Ayrton for a number of years while he sponsored them
3:53 The Haas in the background while he's saying that lmao
Somewhat surprised that Pedro Diniz was not on this list. Sure thing he never won a race or even got a podium, but when compared to the breed of drivers who paid substantial money (we're talking millions of pounds over the 6 years, sources stated the sponsorship he took to Arrows in 1997 was worth $13 million) to get an F1 seat he still held his own quite well. Especially during the era where he began racing in the mid-1990s where other pay drivers included Lavaggi or Délétraz Sr.
Basically, Diniz also deserves to get a mention even though to younger fans he may perhaps be classified as something of an obscure racing driver.
You had me at the Schumacher Thumbnail. ❤️
idk why hes talking about ayrton senna, when he lived in brazil, yes he was rich, but that wealth did not carry over when he went to europe. in the first parts of his career, he had to eat eggs everyday, and he had to learn english through the tv, if that sounds rich to you then i am elon musk
Lance Stroll will surely find himself on a list such as this. Superb driver.
Stroll is criminally underrated. Should have gotten 5 podiums and a win already. His race battles against Alonso last season were joy to watch
@@sergeygeorgiy9154 a win???
@@sebastianflores9656 absolutely. Do you not know the Turkey race in 2020 when he led almost the entire race and pulled a 10 second gap to Perez behind until he experienced tyre graining?
@@sebastianflores9656 Turkey 2020 was screwed up for him by some questionable strategy and tires that had graining much quicker than anyone else's. On pace alone he should have won that race quite comfortably.
@@sergeygeorgiy9154 You don't think the tyre graining had something to do with him pulling that gap in the first place? Or rather, Perez allowing him to pull that gap had something to do with Perez' tyres remaining in better shape?
Stroll was standing in Perez' way and backed him into Hamilton's clutches when they eventually called him into the pits. That pitstop was overdue. A win was never really on the cards in that race.
He should however have won both Monza and Sakhir that year. In Monza he was virtually on pole for the restart (second behind Hamilton who already got the penalty) thanks to incredible luck with strategy and the timing of the red flag. But he gave it all away with a horrible first lap.
In Sakhir, he had about half the race to find a way past Ocon and get himself in the prime position to benefit of Mercedes' pitstop blunder. But instead, he eventually outbraked himself, had to let his team mate Perez by who had come ALL THE WAY from the back of the grid, only for Perez to show him how it's done within two laps.
Stroll is not bad, but if he was something truly special, like the drivers on this list, he would've won at least one of those races.
@6:40 Just like that, three World Champions on the podium. Something you can't see these days!
3:32 xDDDDD as an austrian I didn't even realize how difficult it is to say the bank names
just an info: erste Österreichische just means first austrian, makes in english eqal sense as in german
Geez in hindsight Ayrton Senna should have probably taken up the family business.
Yeah, so Ayrton Senna could become the President of Brazil today!
Lauda wasn't the only one. Prost became champion in 1993 after his 1992 retirement.
92 was not a retirement for Prost. He was simply out of a seat after getting sacked by Ferrari.
One day Hakkinen will come back and win again
@@Marceloloeite he needs to beat Jamie Chadwick first...
Alex Albon too!
You did a really good Job on the Sparkasse.
Also inspired by your Video from Hockenheim i visit the Track or whats left of It. Was amazing
This video was desperately needed, plenty of people forget that the path to becoming a pro racing driver is extremely expensive; in other words every driver in F1 and other categories have paid for their way in.
8:25 "Tarso Marks" 😆
Giancarlo Baghetti is one of My favorite pay drivers, because he managed to pay his way into Ferrari and Win his debut Race. Not bad for a pay driver
9:11 Well Well Well how that one aged
f1 was a very serious sport back in the days... the risk of death of was very high.
pay drivers back then were talented drivers who wanted to risk it all...
nowadays paydrivers are just some kids whose dads were interested in f1.
No it's actually the other way around. Today it's much harder for a pay driver to get in F1. Back in the 70/60's literally anyone who could buy a car could join the race and finish 5 laps down on the rest.
3:35 From my limited understanding of German, it's like going from a mainstream Bank of Austria to a Cooperative Bank.
I think Alonso had already signed for Minardi before they sold the contract rights to Briatore/Renault.
He won a test for Minardi as prize for the 1999 Open By Nissan Championship and they were immediately impressed by his speed so they wanted to signed him right away
He won the test but the Minardi seat was paid not by Briatore but by Adrián Campos (a forer Spanish F1 driver) who managed Alonso at that time. Campos was also a former Minardi driver.
These are talented drivers with sponsorships. Not losers with rich daddies.
Some comment :
Österreichische Sparkasse, which Matt had difficulty to say,is literally Austrian Piggybank in German.They were mainly operating savings accounts for Austrians in 70's with Austrian Schilling as national currency.
10:21 I love how nobody talks about how checo was a collossal screw up right up until he joined Force india.
Nikita mazepin has had the most suprising start in f1 for me. The fact that any team is that desperate for cash that they would that utterly talentless rich boy drive a car amazes me.
12:37 its bad for a Number 2 Driver cause he was just 3rd while the Number 1 Driver got 1st.
As a native german speaker Niki laudas Part is really fun to watch 😂
This is best video i watch thanks wtf 1
Fun fact: erste Bank actually means bank number 1
I mean pay driver always has a grain of salt to it, but there is a difference between convincing a company to sponsor you (because therefore they have to see something in you) or getting a seat because daddy owns the team or the company that sponsors you.
Even then pay driver dont have to be bad, but currently they are
You forgot to mention Mazepin
-Getting the fastest lap in the slowest car
-Getting the fastest lap in the slowest car, in spa, the most challenging circuit
-Getting the fastest lap in the slowest car ,in spa ,the most challenging circuit, while raining
"But dad, im speed KACHOW" AHAHAHAHAHAH
I’m fine with someone paying there way bc they have talent. It is when some pays there way and they don’t have the talent that’s when they need to be dropped.
“But dad, I am speed, kachow”-Ayrton Senna
Why dont we race in Bathurst? Looks like Spa's Brother. Also, any possibilities for a race in Bathurst?
Imagine how much talent there is that simply can’t afford F1? Are Senna, Vettel, Schumacher, Hamilton, Lauda, Piquet, Alonso, etc. even that good compared to the talent that just simply can’t afford to even compete in a go kart? 🤔 no offense to those guys by the way! I love all of them!
Prost retired in 91 and came back to win it in 93
Was he actually retired? I thought he was just out of a drive following the Ferrari blowup and sat out a season. He hadn't made the call that he was out of the sport and lured back.
As an Austrian it is so funny to hear your pronunciation haha
Hahaha
When it comes to pay drivers, I only thought about the likes of Paul Belmondo, Olivier Beretta, Taki Inoue, Pedro Diniz, Ricardo Rosset, Gaston Mazzacane, Alex Yoong, who were actually pretty terrible.
Thanks for bringing these cases to my attention, too!
Lol funny how everyone thinks fosters is what Aussies drink and funny to think they have the money to sponsor an f1 driver. As an Aussie and somewhat an alcoholic I have never once in my life seen someone drink fosters nor do I ever see it at any bottle shop we drink real beer down under
Isn’t lance stroll basically a pay driver, got the funding from his father to get into Williams and Force India/Aston Martin