Thanks for showing how you do your set ups, the steps that you take, the lighting or camera stuff doesn't bother me, keep showing us the practical real life machining. The set ups, the process you are thinking through given the tooling that you have, the clamps you have, the things that might seem basic are the things that help me.
I worked for the company that preceded Vevor back in 1986 to 1991, as an English translator for North American and European sales. Back then, Vevor was named "Tong Na Wen Machinery, co." I'm not sure when they renamed the company, but I assume it was when the son of the owner took control of the company and wanted to expand their product line. They primarily sold machine parts for food processing companies, but then expanded to industrial machining.
I have been impressed with the Vevor brand so far. You are doing great on your videos. To me content is much more important than the lighting. I'll be back.
type machine. he had the same issues.i guess the instructions thought we could figure it out and you did without the help of the institutions they challenged you to make it right the first time but the end result was achieved. enjoy.
Thank you guys. I enjoy making them. Looking forward to getting the new camera though. I feel we lose a lot of good detail and the darkness aggravates me.
I installed one of these and had some issues , after putting it on and taking it back off three times I discovered some mutt had taken the lead screw out then had flipped it when they re-installed it............ after I put it back together correctly it worked like a champ!
Hello Josh; When I installed my Servo power feed, an extension was made for the leadscrew and mounting bracket. Wanted to get the full travel out of the X axis, Steven.
I did the same thing 20 years ago... the only that failed was the pot, speed control, it was a carbon resistor pot, replaced with a good wire wound pot, fifteen years latter, still works.... if I remember correctly it didn't even cost 5 bucks and a hours work....
The fact that I have to fiddle with and modify import tools is part of the appeal of them. Save money and get a little project to tackle. What fun is it when something just works correctly right out of the box?
Josh, I have the Vevor power unit on my X axis also. I have begun to think that the Chinese are laughing at us when they write those instructions. They probably get a big grin on their face when they put those washers in the box. LOL It took me 2 years to figure out how to program one of the Chinese VFD's. I actually watched Finno Ugric explaining it in Finish. I had to turn the sound off and use the closed captions translated to English. My friend this is what they call Globalization. But try to buy a tube of toothpaste in Mexico if you don't speak Spanish. We must press 1 for English in our own country but don't expect to press 1 for English in any other country.
It took me quite a while to get it installed correctly, or rather, close to functional. It works, it's payed for itself, and owes me nothing. It continues to do work and earn money. When it dies, a Servo will be ordered.
Nice cheap addition, got an "Align" brand to fit, made in Taiwan, quite a price difference. Looking forward to some new photography, appreciate you investing in new non machinery equipment. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! I've been looking at these but I'm a little weary in buying something that's literally a 1/4 the price of some other brands lol. It sounded pretty good 😁. Cheers!
I bought this exact modle two weeks ago. I used it an hour on my M head Bridgeport. I'm going to be nice here and say, after communicating with the supplier for a week for replacement parts, with photos and a video of it NOT working (isn't that a photo....?) and asking me to fix it myself, then asking me to take it some place to be fixed, they sent me a second one. The second one lasted 1 1/2hours. They are both in the Dumpster. I bought a Servo 1000 works perfectly under the same conditions the Vevor's didn't. So, I think my granny was correct..."ya gets what ya pays for..." Caveat emptor.
I had similar problems. I made it through the job I bought it for then sent it back. I have since replaced it with a quality unit. But, at least it completed a high dollar job before failing.
I purchased and installed the exact same model power feed on my Bridgeport a few weeks ago. I agree, the instructions are horrible. The first thing I had to do was turn down the collar on the lead screw removable end to allow for the new mount. The collar was about a 1/4" too long. There was a recess for the collar in the original casting, but the new aluminum mount was flush. I also had to do some deburring on the new mount to get the bolts to go through it. The next thing I needed to do was to widen the keyway slot on the new brass collar / gear about 10 thou. I did that carefully with a needle file which wasn't too bad since it's brass. The instructions don't give any real information on what the gear lash should be so I cut a strip of copier paper which is about 4 thou thick and slid the gear in place and took depth measurements to figure out how many shims and their thickness I was going to need. Everything else went pretty much like it did for you. One will need to figure out which spacers go where etc. Once you start looking at it everything makes more sense. They went to a fair bit of trouble to make a colorful brochure type of instruction book which is worthless. So far I'm happy with the drive. I did figure out that in order for it to disengage from the leadscrew that the direction handle needs to be in it's center vertical position, turning off the power alone won't do it.
It was definitely a challenge to put on, but nothing is impossible when you own a machine shop. Lol. I'll just be happy if it survives the one job it was purchased for. Anything beyond that is a bonus. So far it's done 25% of the job and more than paid for itself.
I'm currently fitting one of these to a bridgeport to replace it's original power feed, for my boss. And what I'm finding is that firstly after removing the original bridgeport power feed unit ive had to swap the leadscrew around to fit it to the remaining manual handle end. Even so with this it isn't a straight fit I'm having to turn a bushing that will go on the inside behind the bearing in the power feed to back the x axis feeds screw away enough that the brass gear actualy can make contact with the pinion that sticks up from the powerfeed. The pictures show sleeve fitted over the feed screw end that a cushioning spring is then supposed to fit into but there's no such arrangement on the end that I've taken apart. I'm troubled by the fact that those rather significant earing races have now been replaced by one small roller bearing in the power feed and the casting that it hangs off seems rather insubstantial and frail.
Hi Josh the instructions aways are missing some details of how to install the parts. I just bought one for the Y axis on my mill, will need to make some parts for it and I knew that beforehand but that is what machines are for. Thanks
Josh, we watch in spite of what you think are shortcomings! Done a couple of these, ALL of the Destructions are essentially CRAP! If you can't figureoutium and fabracoblium your factorium! Well enough done!!
Thanks. I do feel they are shortcomings, as you miss a lot of detail and the darkness aggravates me. But, having said that, I feel like I have good content.
Hopefully the power feed will surprise you ! I would like to put one on the vertical travel of my BP one day . I take it you are filming on the camera you bought a little while back ? I am still using a very old I pad & it's not the best but i have seen a lot of focus issues with high end camera's . Personally my fear would be spending too much time dicking around with something expensive and with a lot of adjustment options & loosing machining time . Cheers 👍
I added a cheap power feed manufactured by Wen Ding on my bridgeport knock off. Not a big fan as it is not smooth at lower feed rates. Like everything, you come up with some work arounds. Will be interesting to see what you think of it in use.
@@TopperMachineLLC i saw the update and it did not work the first time for you. but it is like buying good oats you have to pay a fair price for them but if you can use the oats after the horse is finished using them it comes much cheaper but it is runny and it smells like sheet. and that proverbial adage buyer beware. if it is to good to be true then is a probably is. and one person's junk is another person's treasure because
they figured it out. for my dads use he figured out to make it work or he got lucky or had a different machine. i will be a donky and say that power feed is automating the manual. . feed . but we can be jtolly play mates and we can chose to disagree and continue to play. great find on the Bridgeport schools rarely wear then out.
Just purchased one for my little Enco after watching this and a few other videos of the same type of install. Thought my install would be apiece of cake after watching those. Verifyied that I already had a narrow key on the end of the screw. It was all going well until I too got to the spacers. I might have to pull the lead screw and move the shoulder .06 to allow the head unit to go back far enough for the gear to mesh. Did you ever find out what the two springs are for?
If you haven’t figured it out yet, the two springs are for the limit switch. Take the outside cover off the limit switch and there are 2 square knobs on each side of the switch, the springs go over the knobs, one on each side. Inside of the cover there are pockets on each side for the springs to set into, the first side is easy, the second side takes a little wiggling with a screwdriver but it’s not too bad. I hope you understood my explanation and good luck!
So Josh, What did you do about the lead screw shaft? Did you replace it the original or adapt it somehow for a regular crank. I’m trying to add a power feed to my Bridgeport that came with the 6F power feed (that doesn’t work). Thanks
Interesting. Looks like they have gotten worse. Mr. Pette222 just installed one same brand. It is way too fast. He is using a Dremel speed control to slow it down. If my school had a Bridgeport I might have stayed in school. They had just started gutting shop classes so I decided to bail and try my hand at working for a living.
Our local HS is actually rebuilding it's machine shop. I give a lot of credit to the shop teacher for trying to teach the kids real skills and not just pushing buttons.
In this country there are always some kids that are not going to college, I think it’s up to our schools to teach them a trade that they’re interested in so when they get a job they’ll be happier doing something that they like. If you enjoy what you’re doing, your more likely to want to get better at it, and they have a chance to excel at what they are doing. Better than owing a bunch of money going to college and still not being able to get a job in something you like.
How quickly do the limit switches stop the motor ? The limit switch is not the correct design - it should be designed so that the operating adjustable limits can pass the limit switch - to cover for the case of overrun - so as not to force the limit stops into the switch (at rapid speed).
This is very interesting. Vevor are our favourite overseas supplier, the products are good the support is great but as you found the instructions are really horrible. I did not realise they sold a power feed and I have checked out the product. It appears to be designed for a Bridgeport, do you think it would fit on our Cincinnate lathe where the factory power feed is on the left side of the bed?
Hey Josh, are you still satisfied with the cheap vevor? I'm looking at their new AL-310S which has 450 in-lb of torque versus the old model with 150 in-lb model and hoping it will work okay for my bridgeport
I always wonder about this. Such a small expense to get a translator to look over the instructions. I wonder if there is not some stupid Rich American living in China who has convinced all the major manufacturers that he translates perfectly. Because of his reputation, every industry uses the same guy, he's the best! And the reality is that Americans consumers care more about low prices, so we never complain to the retailer that the instructions are garbage. Who's going to complain when you getting a power feed for $140? And it's just a big loop of stupid. And there's just one fat cat working 5 minutes a day for six figures a year
Or hell, maybe it's a Chinese revolutionary who hates the communist government and is secretly sabotaging all the industrial products. Haha, modern finance is weird as hell. I'm drinking a glass of grapefruit juice and it says on the side that the concentrate is sourced from South Africa and or Mexico. Who would have thought that we would build a world where it's more efficient to grow my grapefruit in South Africa and ship it to Seattle? I suppose it's my lack of education showing, but that shit makes no sense to me
"In some language....and English" That's awesome. Great video.
Thanks for showing how you do your set ups, the steps that you take, the lighting or camera stuff doesn't bother me, keep showing us the practical real life machining. The set ups, the process you are thinking through given the tooling that you have, the clamps you have, the things that might seem basic are the things that help me.
Thanks Topper. New sub here, I like this video and feel this will be a favorite channel for me. Thanks a lot.
I worked for the company that preceded Vevor back in 1986 to 1991, as an English translator for North American and European sales. Back then, Vevor was named "Tong Na Wen Machinery, co." I'm not sure when they renamed the company, but I assume it was when the son of the owner took control of the company and wanted to expand their product line. They primarily sold machine parts for food processing companies, but then expanded to industrial machining.
So you were the origin of Chinglish? Nice job, I’m surprised anybody even talks to you anymore! Lol
I have been impressed with the Vevor brand so far. You are doing great on your videos. To me content is much more important than the lighting. I'll be back.
Been thinking about one for my mill. Thanks for the info it's not as crappy as I imagined
if it is any consolation my dad a master machinist.had the same challenges helping a friend
friend install a drive on an excello branded briddot type
type machine. he had the same issues.i guess the instructions thought we could figure it out and you did without the help of the institutions
they challenged you to make it right the first time
but the end result was achieved. enjoy.
Another great video, Thankyou for sharing , I’ve been making my living by machining for 40 plus years , I’m really enjoying your videos
Me too.
Me three
Thank you guys. I enjoy making them. Looking forward to getting the new camera though. I feel we lose a lot of good detail and the darkness aggravates me.
I appreciate your detail video enough that I went and purchase one tonight. Thank you.
I installed one of these and had some issues , after putting it on and taking it back off three times I discovered some mutt had taken the lead screw out then had flipped it when they re-installed it............ after I put it back together correctly it worked like a champ!
Bought one for my Enco,been working for 2 years or so. Instructions were still bad. Great video.
Hello Josh; When I installed my Servo power feed, an extension was made for the leadscrew and mounting bracket. Wanted to get the full travel out of the X axis, Steven.
I did the same thing 20 years ago... the only that failed was the pot, speed control, it was a carbon resistor pot, replaced with a good wire wound pot, fifteen years latter, still works.... if I remember correctly it didn't even cost 5 bucks and a hours work....
Fantastic video! Very helpful! Thank you!
Another Great Video Josh. The video quality looked fine so nice work in editing. Great information, great Bridgeport
The fact that I have to fiddle with and modify import tools is part of the appeal of them. Save money and get a little project to tackle. What fun is it when something just works correctly right out of the box?
Josh, I have the Vevor power unit on my X axis also. I have begun to think that the Chinese are laughing at us when they write those instructions. They probably get a big grin on their face when they put those washers in the box. LOL It took me 2 years to figure out how to program one of the Chinese VFD's. I actually watched Finno Ugric explaining it in Finish. I had to turn the sound off and use the closed captions translated to English. My friend this is what they call Globalization. But try to buy a tube of toothpaste in Mexico if you don't speak Spanish. We must press 1 for English in our own country but don't expect to press 1 for English in any other country.
It took me quite a while to get it installed correctly, or rather, close to functional. It works, it's payed for itself, and owes me nothing. It continues to do work and earn money. When it dies, a Servo will be ordered.
Just in time, i been looking at these for my bridgeport👍
Nice cheap addition, got an "Align" brand to fit, made in Taiwan, quite a price difference.
Looking forward to some new photography, appreciate you investing in new non machinery equipment.
Thanks for sharing.
Align is actually a big company. They also happen to make r/c helicopters.
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I also have the Align on my PM 833T mill. No problems so far and i have had it for about 3 years now.
@@terrycannon570 Good to hear, I bought it from a UK machinery supplier, where I am based. Best regards John
Thanks for the beautiful video
Thanks! I've been looking at these but I'm a little weary in buying something that's literally a 1/4 the price of some other brands lol. It sounded pretty good 😁. Cheers!
Did you end up buying Ebay? I was looking at them also
That power feed is the same one at the school i go to, it works surprisingly well
Thanks for sharing.
I bought this exact modle two weeks ago. I used it an hour on my M head Bridgeport. I'm going to be nice here and say, after communicating with the supplier for a week for replacement parts, with photos and a video of it NOT working (isn't that a photo....?) and asking me to fix it myself, then asking me to take it some place to be fixed, they sent me a second one. The second one lasted 1 1/2hours. They are both in the Dumpster. I bought a Servo 1000 works perfectly under the same conditions the Vevor's didn't. So, I think my granny was correct..."ya gets what ya pays for..." Caveat emptor.
I had similar problems. I made it through the job I bought it for then sent it back. I have since replaced it with a quality unit. But, at least it completed a high dollar job before failing.
I purchased and installed the exact same model power feed on my Bridgeport a few weeks ago.
I agree, the instructions are horrible. The first thing I had to do was turn down the collar on the lead screw removable end to allow for the new mount. The collar was about a 1/4" too long. There was a recess for the collar in the original casting, but the new aluminum mount was flush. I also had to do some deburring on the new mount to get the bolts to go through it. The next thing I needed to do was to widen the keyway slot on the new brass collar / gear about 10 thou. I did that carefully with a needle file which wasn't too bad since it's brass.
The instructions don't give any real information on what the gear lash should be so I cut a strip of copier paper which is about 4 thou thick and slid the gear in place and took depth measurements to figure out how many shims and their thickness I was going to need.
Everything else went pretty much like it did for you. One will need to figure out which spacers go where etc. Once you start looking at it everything makes more sense. They went to a fair bit of trouble to make a colorful brochure type of instruction book which is worthless.
So far I'm happy with the drive. I did figure out that in order for it to disengage from the leadscrew that the direction handle needs to be in it's center vertical position, turning off the power alone won't do it.
It was definitely a challenge to put on, but nothing is impossible when you own a machine shop. Lol. I'll just be happy if it survives the one job it was purchased for. Anything beyond that is a bonus. So far it's done 25% of the job and more than paid for itself.
I'm currently fitting one of these to a bridgeport to replace it's original power feed, for my boss. And what I'm finding is that firstly after removing the original bridgeport power feed unit ive had to swap the leadscrew around to fit it to the remaining manual handle end. Even so with this it isn't a straight fit I'm having to turn a bushing that will go on the inside behind the bearing in the power feed to back the x axis feeds screw away enough that the brass gear actualy can make contact with the pinion that sticks up from the powerfeed. The pictures show sleeve fitted over the feed screw end that a cushioning spring is then supposed to fit into but there's no such arrangement on the end that I've taken apart. I'm troubled by the fact that those rather significant earing races have now been replaced by one small roller bearing in the power feed and the casting that it hangs off seems rather insubstantial and frail.
Hi Josh the instructions aways are missing some details of how to install the parts. I just bought one for the Y axis on my mill, will need to make some parts for it and I knew that beforehand but that is what machines are for. Thanks
Josh, we watch in spite of what you think are shortcomings!
Done a couple of these, ALL of the Destructions are essentially CRAP!
If you can't
figureoutium and fabracoblium your factorium!
Well enough done!!
Thanks. I do feel they are shortcomings, as you miss a lot of detail and the darkness aggravates me. But, having said that, I feel like I have good content.
Hopefully the power feed will surprise you ! I would like to put one on the vertical travel of my BP one day . I take it you are filming on the camera you bought a little while back ? I am still using a very old I pad & it's not the best but i have seen a lot of focus issues with high end camera's . Personally my fear would be spending too much time dicking around with something expensive and with a lot of adjustment options & loosing machining time . Cheers 👍
Really needs something with manual focus or at minimum, be able to turn auto focus off.
Hi, i am a new subscriber, good video, no bullshit and good sound.
Thanks.
Thank you.
I added a cheap power feed manufactured by Wen Ding on my bridgeport knock off. Not a big fan as it is not smooth at lower feed rates. Like everything, you come up with some work arounds. Will be interesting to see what you think of it in use.
I bought it for one job. If it survives the job, I'll call it a success. Lol who knows, I may wind up with a Servo yet.
@@TopperMachineLLC i saw the update and it did not work the first time for you. but it is like buying good oats you have to pay a fair price for them but if you can use the oats after the horse is finished using them it comes much cheaper but it is runny and it smells like sheet. and that proverbial adage buyer beware. if it is to good to be true then is a probably is. and one person's junk is another person's treasure because
they figured it out. for my dads use he figured out to make it work or he got lucky or had a different machine.
i will be a donky and say that power feed is automating the manual. . feed . but we can be jtolly play mates and we can chose to disagree and continue to play.
great find on the Bridgeport schools rarely wear then out.
Great, thanks!!
Just purchased one for my little Enco after watching this and a few other videos of the same type of install. Thought my install would be apiece of cake after watching those. Verifyied that I already had a narrow key on the end of the screw. It was all going well until I too got to the spacers. I might have to pull the lead screw and move the shoulder .06 to allow the head unit to go back far enough for the gear to mesh. Did you ever find out what the two springs are for?
If you haven’t figured it out yet, the two springs are for the limit switch. Take the outside cover off the limit switch and there are 2 square knobs on each side of the switch, the springs go over the knobs, one on each side. Inside of the cover there are pockets on each side for the springs to set into, the first side is easy, the second side takes a little wiggling with a screwdriver but it’s not too bad. I hope you understood my explanation and good luck!
Yeah... I keep watching your videos... Time to subscribe :) !
Thanks. Glad you like them.
Thank you l need to get one of those
So Josh, What did you do about the lead screw shaft? Did you replace it the original or adapt it somehow for a regular crank. I’m trying to add a power feed to my Bridgeport that came with the 6F power feed (that doesn’t work). Thanks
Once you tweak it out and play with it for a time, it works okay.
The question is, how long will it last? This video was posted two years ago. Might be time for an update.
@railgap I sold the mill last week and it was still working great.
Thanks. Let us know how it performs.
subbed , I want to put one of those on my Index Mill
Thanks for the sub!
Interesting.
Looks like they have gotten worse.
Mr. Pette222 just installed one same brand.
It is way too fast.
He is using a Dremel speed control to slow it down.
If my school had a Bridgeport I might have stayed in school.
They had just started gutting shop classes so I decided to bail and try my hand at working for a living.
Our local HS is actually rebuilding it's machine shop. I give a lot of credit to the shop teacher for trying to teach the kids real skills and not just pushing buttons.
In this country there are always some kids that are not going to college, I think it’s up to our schools to teach them a trade that they’re interested in so when they get a job they’ll be happier doing something that they like. If you enjoy what you’re doing, your more likely to want to get better at it, and they have a chance to excel at what they are doing. Better than owing a bunch of money going to college and still not being able to get a job in something you like.
How quickly do the limit switches stop the motor ?
The limit switch is not the correct design - it should be designed so that the operating adjustable limits can pass the limit switch - to cover for the case of overrun - so as not to force the limit stops into the switch (at rapid speed).
Hi Josh. Do you happen to have a link for this power feed unit? Id like to see if they have one for my Well-Index 645 mill.
Nice
This is very interesting. Vevor are our favourite overseas supplier, the products are good the support is great but as you found the instructions are really horrible. I did not realise they sold a power feed and I have checked out the product. It appears to be designed for a Bridgeport, do you think it would fit on our Cincinnate lathe where the factory power feed is on the left side of the bed?
I do not know. Would be interesting to see if it would.
Hey Josh, are you still satisfied with the cheap vevor? I'm looking at their new AL-310S which has 450 in-lb of torque versus the old model with 150 in-lb model and hoping it will work okay for my bridgeport
Dose it work on Z axis ? I have a China bridgeport style mill and I really need a z axis feed… work for like power…. I can make it fit
I don't know. You'd have to try
3 month review? Amount of use in 3 months?
Is that model/manufacturer specific or a universal?
If all else fails read the instructions , "O" in this case no help !
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Seen a bunch of these none of them live very long you get what you pay for
Bought it for one job. If it lives through the job, it's a bonus.
My SPI digital internal spring calipers have a worse manual than this. I guarantee it.
I always wonder about this. Such a small expense to get a translator to look over the instructions. I wonder if there is not some stupid Rich American living in China who has convinced all the major manufacturers that he translates perfectly. Because of his reputation, every industry uses the same guy, he's the best! And the reality is that Americans consumers care more about low prices, so we never complain to the retailer that the instructions are garbage. Who's going to complain when you getting a power feed for $140? And it's just a big loop of stupid. And there's just one fat cat working 5 minutes a day for six figures a year
Because they always seem to be weird and wrong in the exact same weird and wrong way
Or hell, maybe it's a Chinese revolutionary who hates the communist government and is secretly sabotaging all the industrial products. Haha, modern finance is weird as hell. I'm drinking a glass of grapefruit juice and it says on the side that the concentrate is sourced from South Africa and or Mexico. Who would have thought that we would build a world where it's more efficient to grow my grapefruit in South Africa and ship it to Seattle? I suppose it's my lack of education showing, but that shit makes no sense to me