Exploring Warhammer 40k: Roboute Guilliman, The Avenging Son
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Horus gets stabbed by a chaos sword: falls the chaos.
Guiliman gets stabbed by a chaos sword: punches the guy's heart out.
I think we can easily describe Horus' corruption as a "skill issue" then
The blade that corrupted Horus was significantly more potent than the one used on g man. Horus was stabbed by a super advanced and beyond cursed sword that, if a name was spoken to it, reality itself would bend to make the confrontation between the blade and its chosen victim a guarantee no matter the odds. It also is one of those one tap blades that immediately sent Horus into a coma.
I’m pretty sure the blade used on G man was actually a shard of the blade used on horus, massively weakened it’s potency. If g man had been stabbed by the original, he’d be dead right now even from a tiny cut.
He wouldn’t turn tho, because his brain is wired for order and actually resisted an irresistible slaanesh crown presented by a meat puppet for Fulgrim. G man put it on, thought a bit then had the dude who gave him the crown black bagged broad day
G man also has that self actualization part of his personality going for him. He already had lived up to his potential and made whitness the power of his own will before ever meeting the Emperor. I think this helps in his particular resilience to the taint of the Warp.
@@xavis_dad he also had a power none of the other primarchs had: two good (adoptive) parents.
@@ianharrison5758so still a skill issue
FUwUgwim grabs a talking sword from a snek orgy temple.
Proceeds to [REDACTED BY THE INQUISITION] himself while his sons [SUPER REDACTED BY THE HOLY ORDOS OF THE INQUISITION] repeatedly.
Roboute will never die as long as there are horrifically mismanaged logistic trains to fix.
Man literally too bureaucratically obsessed to die.
Don't forget clapping Eldar booty
By the god emperor Gulliman is immortal
HE DONT DIE KUZ BLUE IZ LUKKY COLOR
@@washonwashoff. nice try fed that isn’t my activation code
Robby G, Avenging son, taxman extraordinaire, 5d chess personified, and clapper of Eldar cheeks, truly and inspiration to us all.
Papa smurf
Robot girlyman
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@onionninja7580 Robert Gorillaman
@@Rawkit_Surgeon Rowboat Guildedman
Man, that's telling. Gilliman thought so little of Lorgar, that mid betrayal, he just sighed and believed him an idiot.
I mean his not wrong.
He thought that way after the betrayal, but he actually regretted being a part of the destruction of Monarchia and wanted to rekindle his relationship with Lorgar after the fact. Then, the battle of Calth happened.
Bilbo Gulymeh: "Lorgar, we're under attack. By you. The traitors are in the other direction."
Capt Smurficus: "Sir, the only thing we're hearing over their comms is an ancient Hymn from Terra. Something about being Angry at the Mechanicus?"
Renegade Gumbypatch: "The absolute fool. He left his mic open with Spotify on. LORGAR, STOP SHOOTING MY MEN."
Lorgar: "FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!"
@@Taldozbilbo ffs
I think a lot of the other primarchs would have thought lowly of Lorgar.
Reminder that, despite a good part of the imperium rejects him, the inquisition doubts him, his father saying he was only a tool and insinuating that his love and pride is only conditional...
He cares about humanity and loves us. #ILoveYouSmurffDad
Good old Papa Smurf.
I love the way he's creeped out by the cherubs. One must hope that primarchs can get drunk, poor guy.
“… Victory…”
Hearing him in the 10th edition trailer really got me pumped. I used to hate him and his stupid smurfs(except Marneus and Uriel of course) but after listening to the Indomitus books, I REALLY liked Robute. Then the 19th trailer dropped and I bought a model of him to kitbash for my Templars.
@@RotalHenricssonI think only Leman has invested in primarch tier brews. Fulgrim could definitely get him high as shit but I don’t think Robo wants a rape snake that shanked him as his trip sitter
@@ianharrison5758 yeeeeeeah D: maybe someone can get the Lion to give him a hug, he needs one.
Reboot Gillman: his hair may have started greying and his face wrinkling over the sheer stress of running the Imperium, but he's the Primarch the Imperium badly needed.
Ah the G-man himself!
He isn't the primarch they would of asked for, but he's the one we needed!
I'm just glad we got our governor and our protector. Guilliman and El Johnson can save the imperium. Anyone else is just icing on the cake... not that the others wouldn't be highly welcomed lol the khan, the lorgar terrify-er, even the one handed handy man (cause he builds defenses) himself
@@Amknownas_743great_explainer cant wait for my Templars to wage the final crusade alongside their gene sire Dorn. We’ll all have to give them a hand once conplete
Everyone else that gets vented into space: dies.
Meanwhile Roboute, "Oh boy it's punching time".
Like every time he meets a space marine worthy of commendation, he gifts them with a powerfist so they can be fisting alongside him. As the Codex dictated.
To be fair, for space marines you actually can expect them to not die. They even have an organ for that.
Lorgar: attacks guilliman
Guilliman: Ahh it's just lorgar being a dumbass again
Lorgar: I have joined chaos
Guilliman: *by the emperor i managed to underestimate how dumb he was*
If the Heresy was a strictly human on hjman conflict and no warp shit was involved, in a century or so all the traitor would be forgiven
Roboute is the type of guy that is given a good life but never brags about it, made good use of it and is doing everything to be better
Bros really the superman of this biz
In the book him showing back up later in space killing word bearers with his hands and covered in frost from the cold was amazing.
Know no Fear was amazing indeed.
Do not anger the frozen blueberry.
Just finished the audiobook, very solid story.
@RockyX123 I don't remember that part at all.
Well, that settles it I guess.....a re-read of rhe Horus Heresy is in order!
I appreciate the fact that when a loyalist Primarch finally returned to the current timeline, they were horrified with what the Imperium had become. But that's hardly surprising considering what it was like ten thousand years before.
Also, I know it's a common theme in the 40K theatre to take the piss out of Guilliman and the Ultramarines every chance you get, but 'Know No Fear' and a couple other novels make it clear that Guilliman was perfectly capable of being a vengeful, blood-stained rage monster when the time called for it. Case in point, when he's on the exterior hull of a star ship - helmetless - taking apart Word Bearers with his bare hands.
In fact, the cover image of Know No Fear where he's punching a Word Bearers head clean off is one of my favourite images from the whole 40K portfolio.
We shit talk the Ultramarines because we see them alot ( though they are the most suitable long term poster boys, cant deny that). The only chapter we all truly hate is the Malevolent Marines
@@nurgle7797
Marines Malevolent*
@@nurgle7797I love the MM. Such lovable sociopaths lol
Truly worthy of adding to the chapter reliquery. Blood Ravens prepare to claim him as our own
They don't need to steal him; as Grampa Smurf he's already their spiritual liege.
SPIRITUAL LIEGE
@@RotalHenricsson Magnus would disagree with the parentage claim...
All are welcome to enter the reliquery. None are promited to leave....
Not if Trazyn gets to him first
Before Guilliman could wear the new armor he had to be taken out of his stasis chamber. Calgar was there to hear Guilliman's final breath as a xenos, a daemon and a human abomination were scrambling to take him out. He felt unparalleled despair and anger at that point
I mean if they took my dad off life support just to see him flatline seconds later I’d be pissed too
@@ianharrison5758 Mean while TTS Emperor: Cut off his life support
Kitten:Wut?
'There is only so many near death experiences one person can take'
Vulcan laughs in Jamaican
"VULCAN LIVES!"
*STOMP STOMP*
Honestly, he kinda deserves the plot armor. Just look at what he's stacked up against
Who would have thought between the super powers the Primarchs wielded between immortality, psychic abilities, mastery of combat and so on, the best would be project management lmao.
Leadership. Ability to mobilize others effectively.
Its way stronger than anybody gives it credit for
@@Kuuribro Agreed!
Massive logistical chains like the kind G man juggles every time a combat zone is more than a singular system(so almost always) are usually calculated by very fast computers. It’s the equivalent of doing all the orders and ensuring the delivery of to every grocery store in The USA with the correct products and efficient shipping, all at the same time while also multitasking the dozens of other more focus intensive tasks.
Every primarchs brain is designed to crunch numbers extremely well, in most any general context like commanding a large scale invasion force or upgrading tech for the marines. Some just got a specialization.
G man’s brain is constantly balancing variables in a way only comparable to the emperor.
He’s simultaneously 5 steps ahead running simulations do The coming future events, while also 3 steps ahead doing the same thing he did at 5 steps and accounting for any and all factors and minimize those he can’t control.
It’s because of this trait he can coordinate tens of thousands of warzones, with full internal intervention via info relays, to wipe out a hive fleet on one end while using the battle as a distraction for the Drukari so the goods coming in the other direction have a place to go unhindered. This isn’t all he’s doing but it’s impossible to imagine how many potential scenarios he’s prepared for and has the skills to overcome. It’s likely endless
Emps really just made 20 demi gods to lead humanity and then gave like 80% of them fist fighting superpowers and the rest abilities that actually benefit the cause😂
@@KuuribroTeam buffing support is not something to taken lightly.
Honestly I’ve got a soft spot for modern Guilliman, he brings an interesting perspective to 40k. While also letting us answer the question: what if we gave a near-immortal hyper intelligent super soldier who’s first love is everything working well gigadepression?
Truly happy that the Exploring Series is diving on WH40K. I enjoy listening to your SCP series a lot so this is a welcome surprise.
Troof
fun thing is, before SCP, he actually pretty much STARTED with WH40K.
@ARandomNope I had no idea. I can't even remember how I got into either. I think it was him. Just stumbled onto his channel and started watching. This was before I was more cognizant of algorithmic suggestions and manipulation. Still glad it happened. At least it wasn't political.
For someone with impressive foresight and talent for strategy, Papa Smurf sure walks into plenty of traps
It's the Obi-Wan method
Knowingly*
Yeap. Knowingly. Know no fear.
Are those calculated risks?
The lion was the warrior, the angel was the people's hero and guilliman was the general. Without guilliman, the imperium would be ENTIRELY grim dark.
If Sang was never killed
Then we would have this 3 back again leading the Imperium
@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270what a glorious sight that would be
Gman: Lorgar, how many times must I told you, you have to fill this tax form properly!
Lorgar: Oh yeah? *blows Gman's ship and send him flying into outer space*
Gman: *floating in space and saw the forms are scattered throughout*
Gman: *filled with avenging fury* I wasn't done with those.
He may not be the strongest, fastest or the most powerful primarch but he is the most logical one with the most common sense games workshop has done him and the ultra Smurf’s justice these past few years
They gave him the most OP ability in 40k, a functioning brain.
He also, as far as I'm concerned, had nothing for the gods to sink their teeth into. No great rivalry, no towering ambition and no fear (besides maybe imperium secundus) that his intentions and actions could be misconstrued as prideful, self-serving or heretical.
He is up there in power and can hold his own.
The bugs are the biggest concern. It’s gonna take all of them combing forces for a bit. Even the necrons are worried about them.
Gulliman is my favorite of the Primarchs, rivaled only by Perturabo in my heart.
Ah! Quite the politician you are good sir!
@@kalebgonzales4009 a politician that holds grudges i see
@@kurtfonte4071 You are correct
Love me some Rowboat Girlyman. True genius at organising the Logistics of a Tea party on a lake.
One of the best indicators of how talented Dan Abnett is would have to be how he made Guilliman cool again. In a book so full of awesome battles that one of the sentences is ‘it starts raining main battle tanks,’ we get a primarch venting his rage by bunching Word Bearer’s heads off in space without a helmet.
RowBooty Guillitine is actually perfect for playing emperor because the Emp wanted a statesman, something even HoreAss couldn't do. This way the Emperor could be God while Rowan Gilgamesh could be his physical regent in the human realm
Roman Gilgamesh lol
@Human From Earth Heey! THATS COOL! Freakin loreals and spathas if it wasn't obvious
This was a great run down on the character.This channel needs to get more love because not a lot of channels would go through the explanation of explaining this character.Keep up the good work TES!
*OH BOY! IT’S 3AM!! PRAISE THE CODEX ASTARTES!!!*
PS: I’m quite hyped for
*Space Marine 2*
*We will destroy the Xenos ‘Nid scum*
@@DanielSan1776 Let them not suffer their existence
Ah Big Bobby G himself!
Got a soft spot for the Ultramarines myself.
Guilliman deserves all the love, he deals with so much for so little and just... my boy. My baby boy. Let him be happy. ;w;
Sanguineous was a gorgeous brilliant courageous angel....No he was quite literally an angel with the badass wings and everything a masterful tactician and one of the greatest warriors the imperium of man has ever seen, but on the other side of that coin he was the kindest and most gentle and loving individuals the imperium had ever laid eyes on. I would say there couldn't have been anyone else that could have led the Imperium secundis other than him, no one could even be a close second!
The glorious hawk boi.
I hope you do Mortarion next, his story is great because he is able to take a Space Marine Legion and build an empire with it, Mortarion really is the perfect foil for Guilliman, both were raised by mighty lords and both have a certain nostalgia for the past. Both can also raise the largest armies of space marines, Mortarion has several hundred thousand plague marines, plus millions of cultists. My favorite Chaos primarch is Lorgar, but Mortarion has been given a great background and is a massive threat in the current 40k storyline.
My emotional cores return respect and admiration for [UNIT: Roboute Guilliman], which I choose to experience. _Ave tertio decimo fili Omnissiah._
As much as I hate to admit it because of how much of a goodie two shoes he was, Rowboat Gorillaman is actually quite badass. He is quite literally the only thing holding the Imperium together. Well until the true hero of the galaxy showed up recently Lion, The Johnson.
I’m curious which loyalist primarch from the Horsey Hearsay will appear next to help humanity find and reclaim the Warhammer 40,000.
Oh and it was super cool how Rowboat got over his xenophobia and now has that badass Knife eared Elf girlfriend. I wonder if that one Adepta Custodian can follow Rowboat’s example and can win his Tau girlfriend Moonlight back.
I really loved reading all 4 of the books in this series and I’m definitely looking forward to the next, and final book, that will wrap up all the events nicely with “and everyone lived happily ever after. Especially Erebus. He was the best good guy all along.”
He has a what?
@@avishah1192Yvraine, an Eldar present during his re-awakening. They aren’t actually dating, and honestly barely know each other, but at the same time elf-gf is popular so… yeah.
Honestly I'm hoping the next Primarch will be Jaghatai Khan. So he can be eternally disappointed by the lack of *speed* everyone has
The lion is a bit of an asshole tbh lol, an robute is definitely the far superior primarch to run the imperium.
Robute Guilliman is my favourite Primarch he's not the most powerful or greatest warrior of his Primarch brothers.
He's one of the most human of the Primarchs
The amount of smurf jokes here turns my outlook on life similar to Guilliman's.
Please keep uploading the 40k vids I love ‘em
Really loving these 40K breakdowns!
He isn't the primarch they would of asked for, but he's the one we needed!
I'm just glad we got our governor and our protector. Guilliman and El Johnson can save the imperium. Anyone else is just icing on the cake... not that the others wouldn't be highly welcomed lol the khan, the lorgar terrify-er, even the one handed handy man (cause he builds defenses) himself!
The problem with the Khan is he didn't believe the imperium could be changed. He knew what kind of person the emperor was and believed that the Imperium was doomed from the start. He would try to help the people but he wouldn't try to reform the imperium because it's pointless as he can't convince them to change. I mean he wasn't wrong but he could at least try. For that reason he's even more doomer than the crow guy.
The only good guy in WarHammer 40k
40k has no good guys, but the closest is Farsight
I like Gullyman. Usually, being a Mary Sue do-gooder makes characters boring; but we're talking about 40k, so that's what makes him interesting.
When everyone in the universe is edgy, being a boy scout is actually the edgiest thing possible 😂
Ahh yes, episode about Robot Girlyman, its about time really
Robotic ghillesuit is such a good primarch. Rodent guillotine has just done so much for the imperium
Ohh, fun stories about Robbie Grillman to listen to while working. Thanks mate!
Guiliman after being blown into space: "Oh my, such an inconvenience, well no matter, enemies are here too"
Roboute made a history of the Imperium? I bet the inquision hated that.
Something worth noting about the attempted coup on macragge is he didn't go straight to the chopping lock with the conspirators but rather sought advice which led to that since he figured just revenge wasn't punishment
YES. YES. YES! MOAR 40K CONTENT! Bring on some Dark Angels lore! My boy Zahariel needs some support! I still am holding out that he's either Cypher, or will return to The Lion's side as a loyal son.
Yesterday I just assembled the guilliman miniature 😄 appreciate the video
Between TES & Weshammer we now have a lot of warhammer content to look forward to
Luetin09 is the god emperor of WH40k lore
Why dont you guys watch good content creators. Amber King, Warrior Tier, Baldermort, Sandman of Terra and even Luetin. This is just incredibly dry and vanilla, reading in a bored voice. It's a joke, almost 1 million subs
You're the only reason I love Mondays
He has the superpower of super bureucracy
Robot Girlyman! Let's go!
Robust guilty man
@@oneiroi7445 Sol Badguy
He's the only Primach with a girlfriend.
Plot armor of Roboute Guilliman is thicker than his shoulder pads.
Rowboat gorilla man is literally the glue that is holding the imperium together. And its abt to get some much needed help from Lion el Johnson
The brains and brawn of the imperium.
@@nikpapado9785and also the Imperium of Man's conscious?
This was actually really cool. Even thought i dont understand much of 40k.
Bobby G, the man
The one that loves that eldar cheks
Love to see it
One important thing you missed is that while Roboute desperately wanted to kill his fathers murderers he understood that blind vengeance would only bring more tragedy. He handed the leaders of the riots over to a judicial body to be judged impartially, and they decided on a traditional form of execution. Had they instead opted for exile or another form of punishment Roboute would have abided by it.
Roboute has from the very beginning shown that even at his most wrathful he is a capable of keeping a level head. IIRC he has never actually ordered any executions himself (unless you consider what he did to the Word Bearers outside his ship as an execution). He allows the law to find the proper punishment.
We need a parody fanfic called "Guilliman's Travels" about RG getting stranded on a deserted planet only populated by tiny orks.
😊😅
Thanks for the video!
Not ashamed to say I be falling asleep to your content 😅
Its worth noting that the reason guilliman was able to survive in space is because the ship he was o n was so big, that as long as the shields were up, it would have a minimal atmosphere.
Not simply him being able to survive in the void of space.
Yeah that is glossed over by so many even though I'm sure it's mentioned the the book.
The raven stood amidst the graves somber. Yet even still,the comfort that his friends and family were given honor here warmed his shady heart. As shrike and guilliman arrived, guiliman eyed the graves.
"I take it this is the 1st time you both have seen this place?" The shadow spoke.
"Ive only heard rumors." Shrike spoke truthfully.
"I heard in the end of the heresy,the raven guard would personaly lay to rest every soul dead upon isstvann mortal or otherwise,with this graveyard being a place only chapter masters may find due to the nature of such a thing as this."
Guiliman eyed the changed raven lord nervously.
"...who were these people,if you do not mind my asking?"
The creature was surprised.
"I never took you for sentiment.",
"Ive...had much time to examine myself in the times where i was alone...so?"
"...they were friends. Family. Brothers and sisters in arms. The people who raised me. The people who followed me into the void...the people i let die because of my folly."
Guiliman put a hand upon the shadows thing that answered for a shoulder.
"If they were here,they would be proud at the man you turned out to be. Corvus,you may be a shadow,but you are still human. All of us in our deepest core are. If they were still here, they would rage aganst this madness as do we now. All of us. You. Shrike. The lion. Dante. Men and woman who see the inperium for what it is but we fight on not for a tyrants broken empire,but for the promise humanity will grow beyond us all."
The shadows disspated into the feathers of ravens as corvus in his mortal form nodded.
"You think so?"
"Take it from a man who lost his family to time and ruin. I have lost many brothers,men and family. But if they were here i would know they would want me to live and carry on there legacy. The emporor made us into gods made flesh,myths made real. We are more then this. We are us. We are good people,even if we must walk amidst rampant evil and hypocrisy. That is what makes us the primarchs and adeptus astartes. Not glory,nor bloodletting..."
To be continued...
My only complaint is that I don’t think guilliman would think of the emperor as a tyrant. He doesn’t see him as a father, but he still believes in the emperors vision, and in most of his world view. That’s at least the character I got from him.
@@Dap1ssmonk actually my bet is he would
Despite guiliman doing unsavory stuff for the emporor he always disliked it,but went through with it knowing in the end the inperium will become a utopia over a nightmarish thing of a empire
After waking up and everything thats happened i think gman probably saw that,for all that the emporor has done for guiding humanity and what not,the guy was hella distrustful, only trusting few.
"Robout is Horus' antithesis"
*Rogal Dorn seething sounds*
Have they already written about RG reuniting with The Lion? That would be an interesting story.
I would love it if you covered every single primarh like this
rowboat gorillaman!
Emperor be praised. Lore has dropped.
Rowboat Girlyman leader of the Ultrasmurfs, probably the best hope for humanity.
"How the hell is he still alive?"
Watsonian answer: The Power of The Emperor!!!
Doylian explanation: plot armor
Space Captain America. Gotta love him.
Oh hell yea! Rowboat girlyman. My friends talk shit about him but won’t even play when I field him.
This Dude is clearly based on the Pax Romano ( Ancient Roman) culture. Likely mirroring the great Ceaser himself interested meta reference indeed..
Who were the unlikely allies that helped Roboute escape the Thousand sons legion in the maelstrom?
The fallen, mainly Cypher.
@@Chadicus-Guardsmanicus thanks!
Gotta love rowboat gorilla man
Robo girlyman , my favorite primarch by far, him ripping apart word bearers is some of the best 40 k art
Can't wait for the interaction between rowmyboatgorillaman and the lion. Gonna be a banger of a book.
Hang on, Guilliam in English is William, could it be... Roboute Guilliam is actually Robbie Williams? Are you not entertained? Heresy!!!!
Thank you. For delving into the Warhammer 40,000 Universe.
"... This primarch project would largely be a success..." Only like 4 are around in"hooman" form now and most of the survivors are evil demon entities
They were successfully created. Arguably they were on the side of good (or against Chaos at the very least) in the beginning. Even Angron used to spare his opponents when he had no reason to. The fact that Chaos breaks the minds of people trained to resist it in mere seconds, yet was only able to turn half the primarchs over thousands of years, is pretty impressive.
@@Maladjester yeah, no. If your metric is so... Pathetic on how to measure success in "did the thing do one of the set goals" then sure. That's how you measure success. I'd argue if my living super weapons eventually nearly all died out or switched sides, it's a fuckin failure. Which makes the universe more interesting.
A primarch that literally shoulders the entire Imperiam's burdens of stagnation, bureaucracy, and zealotry.
wow didn't know you did Warhammer, never been able to enter the series but you explain it so well i somewhat understand
You forgot to mention Eurycide she the actual mother of the prime marks, which she has a twisted history with the emperor. But she's the one who threw them into the warp to save them from the emperor's plans that worked out well
Can’t wait for the Lion video now that you’re getting back to 40k
"he merely dodged his attacks"
damn someone should tell focus & saber about this amazing godlike ability
When you absolutely, positively have to have a Primarch Mary Sue, accept no substitutions
Hands down my favorite!
Ah yes, Robot Gorilliaman.
So who do y'all want to see Henry Cavill play when his wh40k stuff starts to air, and what stories would y'all like to see adapted?
How about a servitor, just his head floating around asking people if they bleed
honestly I wish they start at "ground level" with regards to the lore, pick some remote (better-off than the average) world and have it be some "generic local cultist threat", where you follow some local soldiers (who knows almost nothing of the wider Imperium) struggle with but overcome the horrors of 40k, only to be reinforced by and then be conscripted by the inquisition, so that those Soldier can be the "fish-out-of-water" for the casual audience, when the Inquisitor begins sending them out on wilder missions, which require alot more exposition to explain.
It would be interesting to see "average mans" react to the differences between Imperial Propaganda and what the Inquisition shows them.
@@gawkthimm6030 that's high key an amazing idea and something I wish the halo series had done
The lion next pleaseeeeee.
People coming here for just SCP stuff: "Wha- This isn't-"
_2 hours later_
"Yknow this Warhammer stuff's kinda cool; maybe I should give the actual game a chanc- why's my bank account crying?"
Emp'rer Hill: "Dammit Bobby listen"
The Gigachad MVP of the Imperium of Man.
Ayy just what i needed after exams, thanks!
ROBOT GOOEYMAN
streamlined heavy imperial taxation was the main thing that kept both Big Blue and the Imperium alive during those 10.000 years
Awesome 40k video on R Booty G, can't wait to give this a listen before bed!
Roboot guiliman.
The avrege son.
27:09 And the Emperor's first words after all that time were
"ABOUT FUCKING TIME"
...At least his brethren Titus and Malum Caedo have done un-annoying good work for their ilk lately.