Thank you. It is apples and oranges. There are different leadership styles. We had an action-packed hero already. Creating a new Kirk in the Next Generation would have been a mistake. I loved both series.
I think if they were both captains of identical flagships at the same time there would be very few problems that couldn't be solved. They would probably wind each other up like crazy but still have a drink together at the end of the day
This is an unfair and unrealistic comparison. You cannot say one is better than the other. When I was younger, I asked my dad, "Who is a better basketball player, Dr. J or Magic Johnson?" He replied, "They are two different basketball players." The same holds true here. Johnathan Archer saved humanity before Kirk was born. His exploits make him a badass Captain. Benjamin Sisko prevented the Dominion from conquering the Alpha Quadrant. Jean Luc Picard prevented the Borg from assimilating humanity back in the past when warp drive was discovered. These were monumental humanity-saving accomplishments from these captains. Even Kathryn Janeway successfully got her crew back from the Delta Quadrant, despite making a humanitarian decision that stranded them there. So you cannot state that one is better than the other. They are just different.
Unfair, Kirk was the cowboy in the early days of exploration and making rules up as needed. Picard period space exploration had scaled the maturity scale and Picard was more administrator and diplomat rather than cowboy.
To be fair, and yes even though Kirk is better, it was Sybock who took the Enterprise through the great barrier. Kirk pretty much had his hands tied behind his back. So lets get that plot point straight here.
Well, Picard had Q, and I'm reminded of one scene. "I told you, you're dead, this is the afterlife... and I'm God" "You are not God!" "Blasphemy. You're lucky I don't cast you out, or smite you, or something."
I was never a fan of Captain Estrogen. Captain Kirk was way better, and Captain Janeway put Picard to shame. The Sisko was a better Captain than Picard.
Captain Kirk NEVER gave up his ship and would die to protect her and his crew. No other captain has carried himself as captain Kirk. He is the original. I grew up watching the original series. 63 yrs later, I still watch the original series on DVD. One of my ringtones is the original series theme song. I worked at INTEL manufacturing wafers, microchips. TRUE STORY: at an event at Intel, on stage an individual made a mistake recalling Capt. Kirk's passing the Kobayashi Maru claiming Capt. Kirk failed the test. I stood up and straighten him out and told him how Capt. Kirk was given a commendation for original thinking. I was later awarded a prize from Intel for my efforts.
I think it just depends on your age. I saw the Wrath of Khan as a kid at the drive in theater. I watched TOS reruns weekly as a kid growing up. I loved Picard as well but as a teen amd early adult I stopped following along as much as I did as a kid. I'm sure people who were kids during Picard's run feel the same way. My younger brother (8 years) thinks Picard is "more realistic" and Kirk is "too cheesy."
My favorite is a comparison between The Naked Time and the Naked Now. In the Naked Time the whole ship goes crazy from a space MacGuffin. Kirk overcomes it through sheer force of will and the love for his ship. In the Naked Now they face the same MacGuffin. Picard just skips and giggles through the whole episode leaving Wesley to save the day.
My favorite conquering of the Kobyashi Maru (sp?) of the few times it's been done (3, I think) had to be Nog, the first Ferenghi in Starfleet: He tried to barter with the attackers, and the computer crashed, lmao
Am I the only one upset that there isn't a reversed video "Why Picard is better than Kirk" I mean Kirk questioned God? How bout Picard having a Bromance with God's Brother Q? Kirk overcame adversity? How bout holding a Vulcan's mind while it's in the throes of Vulcan Dimentia? Kirk always finds a way? So does Picard. Even while literally transformed into a mindless part of a hivemind, he engineered the destruction of an entity that Kirk would have been eaten alive by. Come on, let's get some fairness
Kirk just cheated on the test. It wouldn't work in real life. If you are saying Kirk is the hero of Nimoy's film you are just a fanatic on Shatner having lost the plot.
Kirk has never been able to appeal to me like Picard does. Kirk doesn’t feel like a true leader to me, more like a danger. He’s reckless and emotional where Picard seems like a thoughtful, compassionate leader. In reality we’d all want a Picard but maybe many people like the fantasy of a Kirk style leader.
who would win in a fist fight? kirk! who's got hair? kirk! who gets the hottest space chicks? kirk! who's ship looks waaaaaaaaay cooler? the original enterprise ! there you go. picard wins at being gay though so thats one thing he's good at. credit where credit is due!
I’d have more respect for Picard if at any time in the 10 years that show was on he turned to first officer and asked “Why are there so many fucking children aboard an active duty warship!”
@@SirGalahadCtny They get into space battles all the time. even so the second that one advanced alien race kidnapped there kids. the first thing Picard should have done was get all the kids out of there.
The Next Generation has a few good episodes. But it should be the other way around. It should have a few bad episodes, with the bulk being good episodes. The Next Generation includes a mind reader, a walking, talking, knows everything android, an engineer that can see the un-see-able, and portrays Picard as the smartest man that ever lived. And then there is Guinan, whose guidance is legendary. They picked a real-life, empty-headed doofus to play the "I know everything" role. And the writers always prove that Picard's wisdom was right, no matter how absurd. But of course Picard's decisions will work out in the end... because the writers make the implausible seem like brilliance. The Original Series did an admiral job at having plausible characters and plots where Kirk was able to use common sense (rather than politically correct sense). Deep Space Nine is a clown show. The best plots, and the best character development, and the best talent goes to Star Trek Voyager. Nearly all of the episodes are very good. No one comes across as a showoff. In fact, even though some of the characters are understood to be brilliant, they give them character flaws, and have fun with those character flaws. Show me a TNG episode where Guinan is the butt of any jokes or is portrayed as having any character flaws.
Kirk is Kirk. Picard is Picard. They are both great. We don't need to compare them.
Thank you. It is apples and oranges. There are different leadership styles. We had an action-packed hero already. Creating a new Kirk in the Next Generation would have been a mistake. I loved both series.
I think if they were both captains of identical flagships at the same time there would be very few problems that couldn't be solved. They would probably wind each other up like crazy but still have a drink together at the end of the day
Of course Kirk was better!!
Sisko! Let us see either of them convince the Romulans to join the federation cause like Sisko.
This is an unfair and unrealistic comparison. You cannot say one is better than the other. When I was younger, I asked my dad, "Who is a better basketball player, Dr. J or Magic Johnson?" He replied, "They are two different basketball players." The same holds true here. Johnathan Archer saved humanity before Kirk was born. His exploits make him a badass Captain. Benjamin Sisko prevented the Dominion from conquering the Alpha Quadrant. Jean Luc Picard prevented the Borg from assimilating humanity back in the past when warp drive was discovered. These were monumental humanity-saving accomplishments from these captains. Even Kathryn Janeway successfully got her crew back from the Delta Quadrant, despite making a humanitarian decision that stranded them there. So you cannot state that one is better than the other. They are just different.
Kirk is better than
Unfair, Kirk was the cowboy in the early days of exploration and making rules up as needed.
Picard period space exploration had scaled the maturity scale and Picard was more administrator and diplomat rather than cowboy.
To be fair, and yes even though Kirk is better, it was Sybock who took the Enterprise through the great barrier. Kirk pretty much had his hands tied behind his back. So lets get that plot point straight here.
Well, Picard had Q, and I'm reminded of one scene.
"I told you, you're dead, this is the afterlife... and I'm God"
"You are not God!"
"Blasphemy. You're lucky I don't cast you out, or smite you, or something."
I was never a fan of Captain Estrogen. Captain Kirk was way better, and Captain Janeway put Picard to shame. The Sisko was a better Captain than Picard.
Everything you said is wrong
@@sharpie6888 nope, it was very much on point, from my pov. You are welcome to your not so sharp opinion
@@markgreiser464 nothing was on point… maybe it was in your dreams
@@sharpie6888 on point. Go cry.
@@markgreiser464 worthless opinion
Captain Kirk NEVER gave up his ship and would die to protect her and his crew. No other captain has carried himself as captain Kirk. He is the original. I grew up watching the original series. 63 yrs later, I still watch the original series on DVD. One of my ringtones is the original series theme song. I worked at INTEL manufacturing wafers, microchips. TRUE STORY: at an event at Intel, on stage an individual made a mistake recalling Capt. Kirk's passing the Kobayashi Maru claiming Capt. Kirk failed the test. I stood up and straighten him out and told him how Capt. Kirk was given a commendation for original thinking. I was later awarded a prize from Intel for my efforts.
I think picard makes a better peacetime leader and kirk a better wartime leader. Both important
I think it just depends on your age. I saw the Wrath of Khan as a kid at the drive in theater. I watched TOS reruns weekly as a kid growing up. I loved Picard as well but as a teen amd early adult I stopped following along as much as I did as a kid. I'm sure people who were kids during Picard's run feel the same way. My younger brother (8 years) thinks Picard is "more realistic" and Kirk is "too cheesy."
my sisters neighbors husbands father attended summer camp in which william shatner was his groups leader.
Am i famous?
My favorite is a comparison between The Naked Time and the Naked Now.
In the Naked Time the whole ship goes crazy from a space MacGuffin. Kirk overcomes it through sheer force of will and the love for his ship.
In the Naked Now they face the same MacGuffin. Picard just skips and giggles through the whole episode leaving Wesley to save the day.
I like Kirk because he would beam down and kick the bad guys' butts.
Nobody ever points out how awesome Mr. Arex is.
And it's not even close!
My favorite conquering of the Kobyashi Maru (sp?) of the few times it's been done (3, I think) had to be Nog, the first Ferenghi in Starfleet:
He tried to barter with the attackers, and the computer crashed, lmao
Kirk is way better than Picard.
Did he really just use the word "unchevable" at 8:42? I keep replaying it in case I'm miss hearing something but...I don't think i am.
duh
Am I the only one upset that there isn't a reversed video "Why Picard is better than Kirk"
I mean Kirk questioned God? How bout Picard having a Bromance with God's Brother Q?
Kirk overcame adversity? How bout holding a Vulcan's mind while it's in the throes of Vulcan Dimentia?
Kirk always finds a way? So does Picard. Even while literally transformed into a mindless part of a hivemind, he engineered the destruction of an entity that Kirk would have been eaten alive by.
Come on, let's get some fairness
The one and only captain of the Enterprise. James T. Kirk.
Kirk just cheated on the test. It wouldn't work in real life.
If you are saying Kirk is the hero of Nimoy's film you are just a fanatic on Shatner having lost the plot.
Kirk has never been able to appeal to me like Picard does. Kirk doesn’t feel like a true leader to me, more like a danger. He’s reckless and emotional where Picard seems like a thoughtful, compassionate leader. In reality we’d all want a Picard but maybe many people like the fantasy of a Kirk style leader.
Picard is a stiff. Kirk is like Patton.
Yes, Captain Kirk is the superior officer. It is known...
Im waiting for the "why this video is wrong" video
I like Kirk he never gives out he's got a lot of guts❤🖖
Picard cried like a b*tch and surrendered the ship on the FIRST episode!
who would win in a fist fight? kirk! who's got hair? kirk! who gets the hottest space chicks? kirk! who's ship looks waaaaaaaaay cooler? the original enterprise ! there you go. picard wins at being gay though so thats one thing he's good at. credit where credit is due!
Evidence of picard being gay or its not true
@@oliclay1348 he was a little too close to data
@@yogiguitar1 damn.. when you're right you're right 😄
I’d have more respect for Picard if at any time in the 10 years that show was on he turned to first officer and asked “Why are there so many fucking children aboard an active duty warship!”
Since Galaxy class is NOT a warship, it's not Picard who should be worried about respect...
TNG had 7 seasons, not 10 seasons.
@@pike100 huh, i could have sworn it was ten. nuts to me.
@@SirGalahadCtny They get into space battles all the time. even so the second that one advanced alien race kidnapped there kids. the first thing Picard should have done was get all the kids out of there.
The Next Generation has a few good episodes. But it should be the other way around. It should have a few bad episodes, with the bulk being good episodes.
The Next Generation includes a mind reader, a walking, talking, knows everything android, an engineer that can see the un-see-able, and portrays Picard as the smartest man that ever lived.
And then there is Guinan, whose guidance is legendary. They picked a real-life, empty-headed doofus to play the "I know everything" role.
And the writers always prove that Picard's wisdom was right, no matter how absurd. But of course Picard's decisions will work out in the end... because the writers make the implausible seem like brilliance.
The Original Series did an admiral job at having plausible characters and plots where Kirk was able to use common sense (rather than politically correct sense).
Deep Space Nine is a clown show.
The best plots, and the best character development, and the best talent goes to Star Trek Voyager. Nearly all of the episodes are very good.
No one comes across as a showoff. In fact, even though some of the characters are understood to be brilliant, they give them character flaws, and have fun with those character flaws. Show me a TNG episode where Guinan is the butt of any jokes or is portrayed as having any character flaws.
I hate to agree with you.
Are you sure the Smartest? So no one is smarter than Picard?
He's Smart but not the Smartest someone is Smarter than him like Data.
i do not like Kirk or Shatner. I like Sisko and Janeway better then Kirk.
Jealous?
illogical
sorry for you