It was deserved. Maybe people will represent their country's honor a hell of a lot more if they are kept in line and have a scene at stake. Tho to be fair and just to India. Brazil has been being assholes for a while but have gotten off scot free both in CS and now valorant recently. Which is dumb.
U only know it aimlock enemies through solid object because u are watching as a spectator that allows u to see the enemy he was shooting (aimlock). So it is true that it is not blatant when u cant see enemies behind object, because his aimbot would kill almost 1-2 bullet instantly and there will be no more aimlock.. He got that far innit?
@@xlostlovex Na. When you have certain experience in a game, you can "feel" what your enemies are doing. Certain irregularities start to occur that make you pause or you notice how strange it is. I've fought enough "quick scopers" in video games to be able to reliably call out when somebody is quick scoping or not. Pros who do this for a living should also be able to pick up when something is this unusual.
@@UltraKardas yeah these hacks absolutely were blatant and I can't imagine his team never noticed through their earlier matches unless he only activated them for this one.
If there's OneNote I can PowerPoint to, it's how he thought he could Excel with an obvious cheat to have an Edge against the best Teams from India. Microsoft Paint.
@@braindamage5652 Right so when you do that does it automatically make a file called [file].exe.log? No. And with how Microsoft Word works it shouldnt be where it was nor should it have those two other files.
Yeah, I mean, make a goddamn hotkey for nuking the thing stealthily, it's not even hard. Nope, the guy straight-up deletes WORD.EXE right in full view, as you do, am I right, fellow legitimate gamers?
And even though J. Fenimore Cooper died long before computers were invented, the target practice scene from _Deerslayer_ was still written with word.exe. ;þ
Finally my country was able to come in Esports and this guy just made India look like scammer's/cheater's hub -.- I feel sad for other players who had the chances but lost because of this guy, you can really see the guy next to him be like "Really bro?"
Every region has cheaters. It sucks that your region was demolished over this guy. If KQLY didn't kill the French scene, Forsaken shouldn't have been able to kill the Indian scene. ):
Unfortunately India has been a scammer hub for years... unless the government cracks down on those assholes, the region will still be known as a scammer hub Unfortunately
@@justrandomotaku meh, the government wont do anything, because scamming in India is outsourced by international market as well, creating a job opportunity for indians. Anfd for the scandal in csgo, how much do you want to bet that the team, and teammates is free of blame 100%?
This scandal was so well known that when f0rsaken (Indonesian Valorant Pro Player for Paper Rex) came on stage for Berlin Masters the viewers thought that it was this guy lol.
Forsaken (India) has got to be a phone scammer. Because he thought he could run cheats on a lan in front of live audience, on PCs that werent his, naming it word exe, and then tried to delete it infront of admins. And destroyed Indian E Sports. Congrats
The company I work for has an Indian division and my god they never take responsability for anything...even when confronted with screenshots of their cock-ups ^^
if the org knew what was going on they wouldn't drop forsaken in the middle of the tourney probably finish it. and then they would drop him, put him on some vague roster swaps/change, he wouldn't threaten optic as his whole career is hanging on a really thin rope.
"You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. It's sad that you don't know the difference."
When the only thing that matters is the result then don't be surprised when someone who can't measure up resorts to cheating to bridge the gap between their ability and what is required to win. Honesty doesn't pay, results do. Who cares if you get caught when you are laughing all the way to the bank.
It would have been cool to watch Antidote frag out against Poizon Gotta admit, the Optic Indian CSGO team had cool names. Formless, Antidote, and Forsaken are great names.
As said before, hvh or hack vs hack is a welll known thing. It also sucks to be stuck in an hvh game when you're solo queuing and losing 30mins of your life staring at people spinning and walling everyone
This is the equivalent of an argument for a version of the Olympics where all enhancement drugs/steroids are allowed so we can "really see how high a human can jump".
I'm willing to think it's just a misunderstanding of the phrase, thinking it's just another stand-in for "teach him a lesson". Cuz 100% they meant beat the shit out of him, maybe even kill
Seeing 2nd world and even 3rd world countries compete in E-Sports can be so beneficial to their representation. The more young people see other countries interested in the same thing they are, the more tolerant and understanding they can be of their culture. So to see this kind of shit is just so depressing.
"Hello sir we've come to suspicion that you might have used illegal program in this tournament. May we see your PC?" "No." "Understandable, have a great day."
As an Indian, this is so embarrassing 😞 We really want our players to succeed and we do have some great ones, But these idiots are taking down the whole indian gaming community!
I think they should have a tournament with cheat mode, where everyone will be given aim bots and wall hacks. That way, we can truly see the skills they have when the playing field is even.
@@captainobvious90 Yea but people still want to cheat to gain advantages. If its an openly cheatable tournament, all cheats are negated due to everyone having the same advantage. Compare this to a "clean" tournament where extra cost and effort are needed to ensure that every player didn't cheat, with the advancement in methods to hide cheats, it can be a very tough job to detect cheating players
@@13gan How the hell does that measure anyone's skills when they are being helped by aim bots and such? That's like saying just give everyone a self driving car in a race so that they can measure each racer's driving ability
@@Kreze202 Because everyone have aimbots and wall hacks, they know that they can't peak recklessly. Whatever they have is also available to everyone else. Basically, no different than a clean tournament where the only difference between the players would be skills and knowledge since everything that is available in the game is also available to every players.The focus would be the build instead of instead small tricks like jumping to avoid shots. The only difference in a cheat tournament is that the organizers don't have to spend money and time to prevent cheating. In you analogy of self-driving car, the skill would be map reading, knowing where you can overtake other drivers and setting your car that even if you didn't drive it, it will be faster and better at navigating curves just because your car is better. That is why in F1 racing, there drivers ranking and constructors ranking. In a self-driving race, it would lean heavily on constructors category with the drivers being more like navigators in rally race.
@@13gan Then you're completely missing the point of these games. CS GO is a shooter game. Shooting people is the main point of the game, and therefore, the main skill to acquire. Taking away the main skill aspect is taking away the point of the game in the first place. Same goes with racing, the point of it is to, among other things, determine who the best racer is. Taking away the racing aspect makes it a mind game instead of racing. Take another analogy, for example. A cooking competition where world famous chefs make the dish for the contestant and all the contestants have to do is dress the dish up. Then it's not a cooking competition, it's a goddamn dressing up food competition.
Microsoft is like 'we don't claim this man'. I've heard this story multiple times and it will always be tragic that one dumbass ruined it for his country.
8:43 South East Asia is not a smaller region just because it has lesser resources like team infrastructure when comparing to other regions in Dota 2 scene Keep in mind that North America region is more chaotic than SEA due to the underwhelming performances by NA teams in bigger tournaments & lackluster talent scout. P/S: Evil Geniuses had always been carrying the back of NA pride more than anyone could remember, only then now they start to snatch foreign/imported talents from other regions
I'm a casual esports fan. How does this guy have a cheating software in the PC? Is he carrying around his own pc to all tournaments? if so, why isn't it checked beforehand for suspicious softwares? Or is the PC provided by the organizers of the tournament? and if so, why is he able to tamper (install shit) with the pc?
idk but its probably very easy to carry a usb with a file that you only need to click and itll begin working. if that's the case it's probably very easy to sneak it in while no one is looking. prob takes 5 seconds
I've heard of some specific mice/normal but modified mice having a usb storage device in them and since the players almost always bring their own mice and keyboards that might be how
Many mice and keyboards have programs you can load into them, and players almost always bring their own mouse and keyboard to tournaments so they can have the same comfort on the peripheral devices they practiced with (and also for sanitary reasons since no one would want to share mouse and keyboard with a bunch of other sweaty dudes). Not saying this is the case here, but it is possible. Again, the organizer should be testing these equipment and/or having monitoring software to make sure the mouse and keyboard that players brought to tournament are not loaded with malicious software.
5:40 What else did you expect. It's india afterall.... Everyone was fukin involved in this endeavor. The players, the management. It is impossible to not identify if a player is cheating by it's own team players.
I got kicked out of an Among Us room the other day because the host was cheating. I couldn't report him because I forgot to see his name. I really wish something like this happens to him too.
I love how E-sports channels remind us about this Forsaken guy like 3 times a year. And I always watch those videos, even though I know the story about it.
Hey now they’re both pretty live. I definitely like the way theScore do profiles on specific players. But overall I slightly prefer Akshon especially when they highlight a less well known game or scene. For real they’re the reason I got into Lethal League.
i like any% speedruns, maybe i would also enjoy watching an online game where everybody uses hacks and glitches and that's the point. might be boring, might be awesome. ?
TF2, quake and super smash brothers melee are the closest you'll get to comp scenes that are filled whit players abusing glitches and unintended game mechanics. Most of the integral game mechanics in TF2 and quake games were inspired by unintended glitches (bhopping and rocket jumping to name a few). And melee, well melee has so many glitches and unintended game mechanics that it's hard to name them all or even explain them in a short comment. Either way you might enjoy one of these games if this is the type of game play you like.
@@ava5030 what i would enjoy is like an any% glitched speedrun, above board in a multiplayer environment. maybe i should go to videogame school and make it myself
@@nav2269 I recommend you look up trimping or soldier roll outs in TF2 then. Make sure to watch the "very fast demoknight" by solar light for an example of the speed you can achieve. Those two game mechanics are all about maximizing speed while trying to reach middle and are pretty close to what I think your trying to describe. It takes a lot skill to pull them off and are imo satisfying to watch. Altho I'm not really sure what type of game you're trying to describe tbh.
I know people who're really talented DOTA players in India. They're just waiting for such opportunity and show their talents. Imagine getting a chance to get into biggest gaming platform and tarnishing the image of the whole region.
I'm not surprised by this, as this sort of behaviour is reflective of Indian society as a whole. Corruption is built into nearly every single system in India, from the Prime Minister all the way down to the common man. Committing acts of bribery is commonplace to get anything done- even something as simple as bribing a banker to reduce your time at the bank from a 3 hour trip to a 30 minute trip. Acts like this reflect this culture of cheating and taking shortcuts, and frankly it's disgusting. Unfortunately, I don't see a remedy for this unless there's a massive cultural shift in how Indians approach their lifestyles, but I don't see that happening as it's so ingrained into every single person that lives in the region. Source: Am an Indian that lives in Canada, and sees and hears enough of these stories to understand.
I don't this is reflective of the Indian gaming community as whole,there are many skilled players who are worthy to play in international tournaments,the problem is that when people don't get the attention they seek,they try to show off.The problem is about representation, india isn't well known for its skilled players,but for its playerbase,so when someone wants to show,what india can do,they take drastic steps and india has grown ever since this incident,many Indians don't even know about this, Indians have started playing competitively and there a future for indian players,your example is like, picking a rotten apple from a apple basket and asking to throw all the other apples.
@@Asur18S I'm not saying that there aren't talented Indian gamers- I'm certain there are and they deserve to be recognized for it. My point is that in India, it is a publicly acknowledged secret that to do anything you need to grease palms. This is reflective of a society which accepts illegal shortcuts as a norm, and you can see how that sort of mentality can leak into other facets of life such as gaming culture.
@@Solofhreaper and its also reflective of the US, of Russia, of the UK... surprise, its all corrupted, dunno why you're singling out India like its some unique case.
@@Lynch2507 It's as OP said though; corruption is not exclusive to India, but much it is more commonplace in the day-to-day experience of living there. There's just more of it there than in other places. Bribing your way through bank processing queues is definitely not common in US/UK circles, but is a common sight in India. "Convincing" a police officer to 'look aside' in the US/UK is more likely to get you in trouble than it would in India. Even from my own experience in Hong Kong (before the CCP's occupation), you were more likely to 'ease' things there with a precisely applied $1000 there than you could in most low-level businesses in the USA (or, try bribing a solicitor to see how well that works in the UK). You're right that bribery and corruption *are* everywhere. It's part of the human existence when a power disparity exists. However, it's also accepted as a fact of life more widely in India than most other countries I've been.
Forsaken really had a second chance and blew it in a spectacular way by driving the nail deep into his csgo career coffin. The really sad part is the end of his team and staining his country's reputation.
Man destroyed a whole country's competitive scene, that's real damage
@@SapphicSaphira I'm not racist but omfg stop generalizing.
It was deserved. Maybe people will represent their country's honor a hell of a lot more if they are kept in line and have a scene at stake.
Tho to be fair and just to India. Brazil has been being assholes for a while but have gotten off scot free both in CS and now valorant recently. Which is dumb.
@@VonTachyon He deleted the comment what did he say
@@anhquanphan3089 i wasnt trying to be racist at *all* i said was that it was a pretty fuckin dumb idea to even try that shit
@@keonkla So an entire region's esports scene deserved to be essentially demolished, cause one dude cheated in CSGO?
Forsaken: "The cheats weren't blatant"
Also Forsaken: *Proceeds to aimlock enemies through solid objects from miles away
U only know it aimlock enemies through solid object because u are watching as a spectator that allows u to see the enemy he was shooting (aimlock).
So it is true that it is not blatant when u cant see enemies behind object, because his aimbot would kill almost 1-2 bullet instantly and there will be no more aimlock.. He got that far innit?
he just has good gaming chair
@@xlostlovex Na. When you have certain experience in a game, you can "feel" what your enemies are doing. Certain irregularities start to occur that make you pause or you notice how strange it is.
I've fought enough "quick scopers" in video games to be able to reliably call out when somebody is quick scoping or not. Pros who do this for a living should also be able to pick up when something is this unusual.
@@UltraKardas yeah these hacks absolutely were blatant and I can't imagine his team never noticed through their earlier matches unless he only activated them for this one.
Word.EXE is a certified classic among all things esports and gaming as a whole, theres no denying it lol.
That's a bad... OUTLOOK...
This is a certified hood classic
If there's OneNote I can PowerPoint to, it's how he thought he could Excel with an obvious cheat to have an Edge against the best Teams from India.
Microsoft Paint.
@@itsObiwankenobi You mean " that doesn't PAINT him in a good light "
Among
He REALLY said the hacks weren't blatant when he was hard-tracking someone through quad on Cache
I think he meant he had no obvious hud on so his teammates might not have noticed even if they looked over his shoulder
Cheapers never prosper, they just get TH-cam videos made of them and banned
@@thadex454 I dunno... Dream is still doing pretty well.
@@yamikaga Clout 2 strong man i tell ya
To be fair, it's not blatant if he's absolutely awful at the game and doesn't know what good gameplay and what hacking look like.
Imagine cheating in an Esports competition and still losing 16-6 lmao
I thought I was bad at gaming
@@SidVacant69 you are
Down horrendous
Think about it. The score would prolly be 16-0 if they didn't cheated.
@@SidVacant69 Them losing doesn't make you good.
"The hacks were not blatant"
Bro u named the file word.exe
What has the name he gives a file to do with how blatant his cheats are lol.
@@braindamage5652 it an exe(excercutable file) file not a Ms word document file
@@លីប៊ុនលាភ To open Word i usually click my executable Word file.
@@braindamage5652 why would they bring microsoft word to a tournament computer
@@braindamage5652
Right so when you do that does it automatically make a file called [file].exe.log?
No.
And with how Microsoft Word works it shouldnt be where it was nor should it have those two other files.
He might as well have poured water on his PC at that point to avoid being caught
Or put the PC in a shredding machine.
@@sebtrainwoo that the Activision Blizzard strat
Yeah, I mean, make a goddamn hotkey for nuking the thing stealthily, it's not even hard. Nope, the guy straight-up deletes WORD.EXE right in full view, as you do, am I right, fellow legitimate gamers?
He might as well have pointed at the judge and shouted, "No, *you're* cheating!"
@@abdulmasaiev9024 yeah, it seems this idiot wasnt a good at cheating after all.
To think, as someone who's Indian and LOVED CS at the time, this was my first glimpse into the world of eSports .
Must hurt deep, I'm sorry
Thats kinda tragic, you and other Indian gamers deserve better tbh
Gives a bad rep for Indian esports sorry g
It's okay. He isn't the only pro cheater. S1mple was banned by ESL for cheating in 2013. They are all scummy bastards.
@@cuylshepherdton7437 You guys are the flat-Earthers of the CS community
I've seen this scandal covered so many times but I'll never not watch when a new one comes out. Such a classic.
Just play the game and will see them daily lmao
And even though J. Fenimore Cooper died long before computers were invented, the target practice scene from _Deerslayer_ was still written with word.exe. ;þ
Finally my country was able to come in Esports and this guy just made India look like scammer's/cheater's hub -.- I feel sad for other players who had the chances but lost because of this guy, you can really see the guy next to him be like "Really bro?"
Every region has cheaters. It sucks that your region was demolished over this guy.
If KQLY didn't kill the French scene, Forsaken shouldn't have been able to kill the Indian scene. ):
@@fav843 i agree
Unfortunately India has been a scammer hub for years... unless the government cracks down on those assholes, the region will still be known as a scammer hub Unfortunately
@@justrandomotaku meh, the government wont do anything, because scamming in India is outsourced by international market as well, creating a job opportunity for indians.
Anfd for the scandal in csgo, how much do you want to bet that the team, and teammates is free of blame 100%?
S1mple was banned by ESL in 2013 for cheating. Don't be sad.
This scandal was so well known that when f0rsaken (Indonesian Valorant Pro Player for Paper Rex) came on stage for Berlin Masters the viewers thought that it was this guy lol.
It's a different forsaken?
@@MisterSleep1123 yes
@@maicee7603 well i guess that name have to be... forsaken?
@middle aged man in extreme debt I vote he renames himself to Word.exe
Yeah he should change his name to terlup4kan
Forsaken (India) has got to be a phone scammer. Because he thought he could run cheats on a lan in front of live audience, on PCs that werent his, naming it word exe, and then tried to delete it infront of admins. And destroyed Indian E Sports. Congrats
that pfp wtf
@MarkTheFox saying that he's a chad means the region he ruined deserved to be fucked. Is that your point?
@@joekerr5418 Stop baiting 🤓
The company I work for has an Indian division and my god they never take responsability for anything...even when confronted with screenshots of their cock-ups ^^
@@tucatheman work on your reading comprehension
It's like he had an 8 year olds knowledge for computers
The fact that he's Indian makes your comment funnier
@@yuvalgabay1023 the fact that you exist is funny.
@@axel3689 i know. My hole life is a joke
@@yuvalgabay1023whyd u have to be racist tho
@@revz8684 its a race joke .not being racsit. I didnt come whit hostility. I thought in a racsit kind of way its kinda funny.
Word.exe was just forsaken trying to do his homework while playing in a tournament 😂
Even if you accept Forsaken's claim that his cheating wasn't obvious, that doesn't prove that OpTic didn't know or suspect he might be cheating.
but iit doesnt prove it either. (not saying they shouldnt be aware whether or not a teamate is cheating)
Bruh if the organization knew they would replace him for sure, it's not worth the risk of getting exposed.
if the org knew what was going on they wouldn't drop forsaken in the middle of the tourney probably finish it. and then they would drop him, put him on some vague roster swaps/change, he wouldn't threaten optic as his whole career is hanging on a really thin rope.
If someone is a cheater then they are also a liar. There is no reason to believe anything they say.
Did you watch the video?
He was reported, and Optic brushed the issue off.
"You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. It's sad that you don't know the difference."
Wise words
Liquid Snake always had a way with words
Bootiful
santa
When the only thing that matters is the result then don't be surprised when someone who can't measure up resorts to cheating to bridge the gap between their ability and what is required to win. Honesty doesn't pay, results do. Who cares if you get caught when you are laughing all the way to the bank.
1:36 “A Mexican gears of war team” as it zooms in on the Puerto Rican flag.
Always has been.
@A B i can recognize my own flag but thanks for your input. 🇵🇷
Three Mexican countries vibe
Lmfao I was like why is the Puerto Rican flag there
All those Mexican countries are the same
Valve: "Our Anti-cheat is the best!"
Word: "Am I a joke to you?"
There's something deeply sad about Forsaken's teammates looking at him as he's getting caught
04:00 fr
Forsaken: Cheats using word.exe back in 2018
Esports channels: *"I'm gonna M I L K you"*
I want to be milked too :(
@@AndroidX1X 💀
@@AndroidX1X 💀
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@@AndroidX1X huh💀
It would have been cool to watch Antidote frag out against Poizon
Gotta admit, the Optic Indian CSGO team had cool names. Formless, Antidote, and Forsaken are great names.
Feef
Feef
@Rudolf Hiller They’re literally just words any average human could come up with.
Feef
@Rudolf Hiller Might as well saying that they stole their name from English Dictionary
Forsaken now: Hello this is Nick from Microsoft tech support.
Literally could have done 100 things to make this undetectable
I've seen a better cheater in casual
there should be a esport tournament where everyone fight whose cheating/hacking abilities are better
Everyone just be unkillable, gl
this is honestly kind of a good concept, I imagine the rules would have to be super complicated though
I guess you guys don't know about hvh lol.
As said before, hvh or hack vs hack is a welll known thing. It also sucks to be stuck in an hvh game when you're solo queuing and losing 30mins of your life staring at people spinning and walling everyone
This is the equivalent of an argument for a version of the Olympics where all enhancement drugs/steroids are allowed so we can "really see how high a human can jump".
He was trying to say, "DO NOT REDEEM!".
"Give him a taste of his own medicine" hahahah What you're gunna cheat on him? What STUPID threat that is. 🤦♂️
They’ll write out a very angry letter on Word
exactly my thoughts, lol
I'm willing to think it's just a misunderstanding of the phrase, thinking it's just another stand-in for "teach him a lesson". Cuz 100% they meant beat the shit out of him, maybe even kill
Pretty clear that they were gonna beat him up
Well technically speaking they are incorrect, what they intend to communicate is that they will probably beat up or kill him
Shoutout to all my (non-hacking) indian brothers and sisters in csgo and other esports
Thanks bro
Pulling off a stunt like that is really risky due to the many eyes watching
So no more telemarketer call center scammers in the eSports scene?
W for eSports.
I'd probably play worse with cheats because I'd be too stressed about trying to not get caught
Seeing 2nd world and even 3rd world countries compete in E-Sports can be so beneficial to their representation. The more young people see other countries interested in the same thing they are, the more tolerant and understanding they can be of their culture. So to see this kind of shit is just so depressing.
Australia has lots of eSports teams so that's a good example of a third world eSports scene
@@rapid3384 lol
@@rapid3384 lmao wut hahahaha
@@rapid3384 that's an old term of "third world" the current term implies that the countries in question are underdeveloped/developing
@@ReikiMaulana Australia is quite the tyrannical state, certainly there are many developments they need to make
this was very interesting to watch! very well-made as always. love your videos :D
Never trust a country who don't use toilet paper
Lol what meant to justify?
if there is a way to pull out some scam, they'd go for it
I love that he tried to keep them away from his computer. What was the logic there? Did he think they were just going to say ok and move on?
Also deleted it as soon as the folder opened.
"Hello sir we've come to suspicion that you might have used illegal program in this tournament. May we see your PC?"
"No."
"Understandable, have a great day."
As an Indian, this is so embarrassing 😞
We really want our players to succeed and we do have some great ones, But these idiots are taking down the whole indian gaming community!
I’ve never seen so much footage of Indian guys crossing their arms compiled into one place
And to this day people still talk about the word.exe scandal (mostly because they can’t find anything other to talk about csgo)
Good quality content, as always! 🔥
I think they should have a tournament with cheat mode, where everyone will be given aim bots and wall hacks. That way, we can truly see the skills they have when the playing field is even.
not having people cheat is already leveling the playing field 😅
@@captainobvious90 Yea but people still want to cheat to gain advantages. If its an openly cheatable tournament, all cheats are negated due to everyone having the same advantage.
Compare this to a "clean" tournament where extra cost and effort are needed to ensure that every player didn't cheat, with the advancement in methods to hide cheats, it can be a very tough job to detect cheating players
@@13gan How the hell does that measure anyone's skills when they are being helped by aim bots and such? That's like saying just give everyone a self driving car in a race so that they can measure each racer's driving ability
@@Kreze202 Because everyone have aimbots and wall hacks, they know that they can't peak recklessly. Whatever they have is also available to everyone else. Basically, no different than a clean tournament where the only difference between the players would be skills and knowledge since everything that is available in the game is also available to every players.The focus would be the build instead of instead small tricks like jumping to avoid shots. The only difference in a cheat tournament is that the organizers don't have to spend money and time to prevent cheating.
In you analogy of self-driving car, the skill would be map reading, knowing where you can overtake other drivers and setting your car that even if you didn't drive it, it will be faster and better at navigating curves just because your car is better. That is why in F1 racing, there drivers ranking and constructors ranking. In a self-driving race, it would lean heavily on constructors category with the drivers being more like navigators in rally race.
@@13gan Then you're completely missing the point of these games. CS GO is a shooter game. Shooting people is the main point of the game, and therefore, the main skill to acquire. Taking away the main skill aspect is taking away the point of the game in the first place. Same goes with racing, the point of it is to, among other things, determine who the best racer is. Taking away the racing aspect makes it a mind game instead of racing.
Take another analogy, for example. A cooking competition where world famous chefs make the dish for the contestant and all the contestants have to do is dress the dish up. Then it's not a cooking competition, it's a goddamn dressing up food competition.
As if India didnt have a bad reputation with computers already.
Utterly destroyed by the first representative team.
Shiee bad enough they impersonate our banks now they try acting like their word.exe files aren't sketchy cheats XD
5:40 What else did you expect. It's india afterall....
Racist
This had to be coming at some point
Who would of imagined that the #1 country known for telemarketing scams would have cheaters in video games....
I got into several matches of BF5 with a squad of cheaters on NA servers on open mic speaking Hindi. 🤷
I guess high ping is not a thing anymore.
Microsoft is like 'we don't claim this man'. I've heard this story multiple times and it will always be tragic that one dumbass ruined it for his country.
8:43
South East Asia is not a smaller region just because it has lesser resources like team infrastructure when comparing to other regions in Dota 2 scene
Keep in mind that North America region is more chaotic than SEA due to the underwhelming performances by NA teams in bigger tournaments & lackluster talent scout.
P/S: Evil Geniuses had always been carrying the back of NA pride more than anyone could remember, only then now they start to snatch foreign/imported talents from other regions
Does optic know that crossed arms aren't the only pose in existence?
WWE pose
Like i'm pretty sure 90% esports player does that
I'm a casual esports fan. How does this guy have a cheating software in the PC? Is he carrying around his own pc to all tournaments? if so, why isn't it checked beforehand for suspicious softwares? Or is the PC provided by the organizers of the tournament? and if so, why is he able to tamper (install shit) with the pc?
idk but its probably very easy to carry a usb with a file that you only need to click and itll begin working. if that's the case it's probably very easy to sneak it in while no one is looking. prob takes 5 seconds
I believe he connected his phone via USB and accessed the cheat. Can't believe how the organizers let that happen.
@@randomindividual769 I'd imagine that would leave a breadcrumb trail of residual copies being left on PCs? Currently watching so I'll see I guess.
I've heard of some specific mice/normal but modified mice having a usb storage device in them and since the players almost always bring their own mice and keyboards that might be how
Many mice and keyboards have programs you can load into them, and players almost always bring their own mouse and keyboard to tournaments so they can have the same comfort on the peripheral devices they practiced with (and also for sanitary reasons since no one would want to share mouse and keyboard with a bunch of other sweaty dudes).
Not saying this is the case here, but it is possible. Again, the organizer should be testing these equipment and/or having monitoring software to make sure the mouse and keyboard that players brought to tournament are not loaded with malicious software.
Imagine if Forsaken somehow win major then get caught cheating.
thế thì lại ảo quá
After he was caught I guess you could say he was "forsaken" by his team lol
Badabum tss...
In the immortal words of Shakespeare: I like thy wit well, i'faith.
Well he just follow his blood as an Indian
Extremesland wasn't their first LAN, they won the LAN final of the ESL Indian Premiership, where Forsaken also cheated.
5:40 What else did you expect. It's india afterall.... Everyone was fukin involved in this endeavor. The players, the management. It is impossible to not identify if a player is cheating by it's own team players.
A country of scammers.what did you expect?
2:56 As a Malaysian this is the first time I've ever heard of our country having an accomplishment in esports so I'm proud of this
My life
My rules
My style
My Adidude (deletes hacks in front of admin)
Some people have no shame
Seems like he has Forsaken his entire community.
…I will show myself out.
I got kicked out of an Among Us room the other day because the host was cheating. I couldn't report him because I forgot to see his name. I really wish something like this happens to him too.
Competitive Among Us lobby lmfao
Even I cheated in among us sometimes just for the costumes but never cheated and kicked people lol
Amogus
Dude it's among us not E sports. Just quit and find another room. Smh.
@@EdwinTyler but I will feel more satisfied if he gets his comeuppance.
Gotta love this classic.
5:52 “we in India, rules are different” Forsaken hasn’t left his house since they found word.exe out of fear of this man 😭
“MeXiCAn geArS oF wAr TeAm”
Proceeds to show Puertorrican flag. Bruh.
I hope that this is the beginning of another comeback story. He cheated, learned a lesson, and then.. Hefest got this run
I don't hope so, ban this kid from competitive gaming for life
He pulled a wirtual on the entire indian scene, there's no coming back for him.
“Jazz music starts playing”
Why did I read this in Karl's voice?
Once a cheat, always a cheat, keep 'em out.
I love how E-sports channels remind us about this Forsaken guy like 3 times a year. And I always watch those videos, even though I know the story about it.
"Forsaken wasn't Forsaken until he did something" understand it as you want
this is a certified word.exe moment
poor guy tried so hard to cheat and not only lost the tournament and his own respect BUT also helped the whole nation lose its respect, good job
Did forsaken contribute in any level to help Anti-Cheat to detect the cheat he used to get recognized in the future?
This guy is a reflection of all gamers - lots of claims of not cheating, yet lots with filez that have been 'touched' just a bit.
My man is everywhere, Score ESports and this 😅
Tbf akshon always covers these stories extremely well
Akshon >>>>>>> Score eSports. Score eSports is mostly pulp nowadays.
@@arzen2816 thescore esports should rename themselves to "thescore twitch and opinions"
Hey now they’re both pretty live. I definitely like the way theScore do profiles on specific players. But overall I slightly prefer Akshon especially when they highlight a less well known game or scene. For real they’re the reason I got into Lethal League.
Is gears of War huge in Mexico or something? I did not know that, I did know king of fighters is big there.
Imagine having the audacity to try pulling off something like that.
i like any% speedruns, maybe i would also enjoy watching an online game where everybody uses hacks and glitches and that's the point. might be boring, might be awesome. ?
go look up csgo hvh or smth
Blacklight Retribution had everyone on wallhacks, but poor management kinda killed it over time. Was a great title.
TF2, quake and super smash brothers melee are the closest you'll get to comp scenes that are filled whit players abusing glitches and unintended game mechanics. Most of the integral game mechanics in TF2 and quake games were inspired by unintended glitches (bhopping and rocket jumping to name a few). And melee, well melee has so many glitches and unintended game mechanics that it's hard to name them all or even explain them in a short comment.
Either way you might enjoy one of these games if this is the type of game play you like.
@@ava5030 what i would enjoy is like an any% glitched speedrun, above board in a multiplayer environment. maybe i should go to videogame school and make it myself
@@nav2269 I recommend you look up trimping or soldier roll outs in TF2 then. Make sure to watch the "very fast demoknight" by solar light for an example of the speed you can achieve.
Those two game mechanics are all about maximizing speed while trying to reach middle and are pretty close to what I think your trying to describe. It takes a lot skill to pull them off and are imo satisfying to watch.
Altho I'm not really sure what type of game you're trying to describe tbh.
IT tip which would of made him harder to spot. You can set the file to hidden beforehand
It could have amazing if he could have called air strike 😂 whole esports could remember this cheat function
4:17 can we talk about how this guy perfectly through the gun to another guy 🤣
this was such a classic indian moment
ive seen this story so many times but it never gets old
LOL Back to the scam call centres Forsaken
He was indeed using word.exe
Word.
I mean when I suspect someone cheating in a shooter I say “this guy might have word.exe”
I know people who're really talented DOTA players in India. They're just waiting for such opportunity and show their talents. Imagine getting a chance to get into biggest gaming platform and tarnishing the image of the whole region.
It just take 1 man to end whole scene in a region
I want word.exe so much. I get destroyed by pros when I play cs go.
Forsaken single handedly destroyed India pro gaming scene. So much potential wasted because of one man
Why tho? Because of 1 guy?
Our scene is full of cheaters.. right from the 1.6 days back in 2009
Not all cheats turn into memes, I give you that.
In the only esport I care about, Dota2, Europe and China are the major regions. North America is a minor region.
God imagine how fucking awful this would feel. Having this opportunity taken away from you for something you couldn’t have stopped
Couldn't?
@@ReikiMaulana yeah, they didnt know their teamate was cheating, therefore they couldnt stop it
@@Styxx3916 yeah right pffff they didnt know
@@GarvMania
In 1877, the Louisville Grays ballplayers didn't know four of their teammates were fixing games.
I'm not surprised by this, as this sort of behaviour is reflective of Indian society as a whole. Corruption is built into nearly every single system in India, from the Prime Minister all the way down to the common man. Committing acts of bribery is commonplace to get anything done- even something as simple as bribing a banker to reduce your time at the bank from a 3 hour trip to a 30 minute trip. Acts like this reflect this culture of cheating and taking shortcuts, and frankly it's disgusting. Unfortunately, I don't see a remedy for this unless there's a massive cultural shift in how Indians approach their lifestyles, but I don't see that happening as it's so ingrained into every single person that lives in the region.
Source: Am an Indian that lives in Canada, and sees and hears enough of these stories to understand.
I don't this is reflective of the Indian gaming community as whole,there are many skilled players who are worthy to play in international tournaments,the problem is that when people don't get the attention they seek,they try to show off.The problem is about representation, india isn't well known for its skilled players,but for its playerbase,so when someone wants to show,what india can do,they take drastic steps and india has grown ever since this incident,many Indians don't even know about this, Indians have started playing competitively and there a future for indian players,your example is like, picking a rotten apple from a apple basket and asking to throw all the other apples.
@@Asur18S I'm not saying that there aren't talented Indian gamers- I'm certain there are and they deserve to be recognized for it. My point is that in India, it is a publicly acknowledged secret that to do anything you need to grease palms. This is reflective of a society which accepts illegal shortcuts as a norm, and you can see how that sort of mentality can leak into other facets of life such as gaming culture.
@@Solofhreaper and its also reflective of the US, of Russia, of the UK... surprise, its all corrupted, dunno why you're singling out India like its some unique case.
@@Lynch2507 It's as OP said though; corruption is not exclusive to India, but much it is more commonplace in the day-to-day experience of living there. There's just more of it there than in other places.
Bribing your way through bank processing queues is definitely not common in US/UK circles, but is a common sight in India. "Convincing" a police officer to 'look aside' in the US/UK is more likely to get you in trouble than it would in India. Even from my own experience in Hong Kong (before the CCP's occupation), you were more likely to 'ease' things there with a precisely applied $1000 there than you could in most low-level businesses in the USA (or, try bribing a solicitor to see how well that works in the UK).
You're right that bribery and corruption *are* everywhere. It's part of the human existence when a power disparity exists. However, it's also accepted as a fact of life more widely in India than most other countries I've been.
Wow, that's crazy. I rarely hear anything about Indian culture despite it's population so I'm always curious about the tidbits I get.
Feels bad to see that my people did such shit. Maybe things might change in future.
It's alright, mate, it happens, quite unfortunate still.
Forsaken really had a second chance and blew it in a spectacular way by driving the nail deep into his csgo career coffin. The really sad part is the end of his team and staining his country's reputation.
Now he is a pro valo competitive player now playing great under global esports lmao
where did you get that information?
@@dumblingg that's skrossi, a guy who often pretends he's actually Forsaken cause they look alike. The two are pretty different tho
That was a prank video.
Skrossi is NOT forsaken.
Embarrasing is that people still play this cheaters wasteland lol
Bro got dropped for the coach😂
*they don’t know chat*
*OH FUCK THEY KNOW*
It created history in the Esport community.
I remember Vietnamese commentors thought it was a connection problem, started stalking everyone's inventory and prasing forsaken's playstyle lmao