The Biggest CHEATING Scandals in VALORANT

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  • Despite being only 3 years old, VALORANT has had its fair share of controversy and cheating allegations. These are some of the most notorious cheating sagas so far.
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  • @codexl0l.
    @codexl0l. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1459

    paying 20 dollars for cheats to win 10 is insane

    • @BPValorant
      @BPValorant  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      😂

    • @geymseksion
      @geymseksion 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      I assume it taint about the $10 prize but the bragging right winning a small tournament

    • @ShaggyJonJ
      @ShaggyJonJ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which is worse. Cause like "I won a inschool tournament" Like cool? I guess? @@geymseksion

    • @NisusGG
      @NisusGG หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      game is game. but agreed its dumb as hell

    • @h8_mE
      @h8_mE หลายเดือนก่อน

      SICK BURN.

  • @BLettuce
    @BLettuce 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2908

    Cheating for 10 dollars is absolutely baffling

    • @KeelinKern-wh2qv
      @KeelinKern-wh2qv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

      10 bucks is a 10 bucks!

    • @plixiity8283
      @plixiity8283 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd do it for 5

    • @erenyayger3840
      @erenyayger3840 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol

    • @marcellhvh
      @marcellhvh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@PerumNagajayai mean they be costing like 20 for a week key

    • @BOBSONOWURCALLINGMREBOB
      @BOBSONOWURCALLINGMREBOB 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Game Is game 😂😂

  • @breaktherules1253
    @breaktherules1253 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1690

    cheating or exploit is bad, but man riots never fix the bug when it needed to but only fixed it when its being exploit at tournament.

    • @geo4716
      @geo4716 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      I was going to bring this up like. Ok yes exploits that grant you with advantage is like, yeah doubtful, BUT if you have the chance you'll do it and ngl i would too!! so not the whole blame on them but on the development like. If it lets me put the cam there for example I think is right to use!

    • @nabkill0134
      @nabkill0134 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​@@geo4716funny cos riot told them they cant do that specifically. Like there a picture book with not to do that. Also op you get it wrong. Riot is fixing more bug for player more than pro player cos if not book of exploit wouldnt exist.

    • @ayoubp7689
      @ayoubp7689 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The funny and baffling thing is, they have a 40 pages book about every exploit in every map. THEY know about them, just don't want to fix them, then they force people to read their book. This company is just trash

    • @gamanyme
      @gamanyme 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      punishing for use of exploits is the dumbest thing in esports, the only one who can know the itentions of a dev is the dev himself, there are many techniques that where born by players and were never intended to be used the way they are, using an unknow exploit in a tournament is just part of the player knolegde of a map/game

    • @YTJiyu
      @YTJiyu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It takes time to review, develop and test these changes. And, of course tournament happens before bug patches. That's why there was a rule placed to avoid exploiting these bugs. An accidental placement of these exploits just shows a memory that the player plays those "normally" in ranked games, normal or scrims.

  • @raycelettich874
    @raycelettich874 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +589

    "for his share... of 10 dollars" 😭😭

  • @cryptidian3530
    @cryptidian3530 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +987

    It's crazy how people think "they won't notice" or "it'll be fine, relax" and then get caught and punished for it.

    • @piyushbansal3734
      @piyushbansal3734 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      It's because they might know or be in contact with people who are also regularly involved in such activities and still manage to evade the riot games anticheat system.

    • @dziugazz
      @dziugazz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Because they can get away with it. They just make stupid mistakes and get caught. Just look at the CS:GO cheating scandals. Granted, the anti-cheat is worse by a lot, but people were able to cheat on LANs and mostly get away with it.

    • @matthewrl9130
      @matthewrl9130 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dont think the g2 comms one was bad, The coach was celebrating the win AFTER he got the kills, The round was over anyways, all he had to do was defuse, no way the game restricts their pro players to having 0 hype mid tournament, plus whats a coach gonna do in that situation? HEs spectacting a POV he only knows what the player sees? Kinda BS that he got in trouble for that

    • @Demial_Sparda
      @Demial_Sparda 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dont forget about survivor bias.

    • @TheJustinHit
      @TheJustinHit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You should look that up but with Cops.

  • @dpear3
    @dpear3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +902

    To provide some insight on the first 2 clips from my time as a collegiate Valorant coach: the VCT rule book does specifically list a LOT of banned plays on maps, something like 30-40 pages with multiple maps per page. Some are as mundane as placing Killjoy mollies in the rubbish on the ground in Bind’s hookah, or using Jett’s float passive to jump onto the box on Haven’s C site.
    The team’s coach and/or manager is responsible for reading this rule book and enforcing it for their players, if you don’t have a good coach or they just didn’t memorize all 40 pages of exploits, it’s entirely possible to think throwing a Molly between boxes or a cam in a certain spot is okay when you’ve been using it in comp games, scrims, seeing it on TH-cam, etc for months.
    Numerous times I’d see an opponent player use one of the mundane banned “exploits” and we’d say something in chat like “hey, just a heads up, the ability you used in this location is against the VCT rule book” and the enemy team would stop and thank us for being mature with letting them know. It’s very common for something like this to be done on accident, not many coaches memorize the rule book to the extent they should.

    • @16jms
      @16jms 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +241

      This is insane. RIOT clearly know about these exploits, and they decide to make coaches read 40 pages of rules instead of just FIXING THEM

    • @BrotherCheng
      @BrotherCheng 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

      I don't get it. This is a video game, aka software. Are these exploits impossible to fix or does Riot not have software engineers? If they can come up with such a long list of known exploits in the rules they should be able to fix them in the game as well. Having the game programmed in one way and then saying people can't use it seems crazy to me. Learning a game is hard enough. Learning a game and then having to unlearn it (without the game telling you what is or isn't an exploit) is way more annoying.

    • @dpear3
      @dpear3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      @@BrotherCheng It comes down to 2 things.
      1: Fixing bugs doesn't make money, but does cost money, as a company it's a low priority for this reason.
      2: Some bugs can be genuinely difficult to fix. Take for example the rubbish on Bind's hookah, you don't want the rubbish to have collision as that would mess with people's aim. If it doesn't have collision then people can place things inside of it. Riot after around 1-2 years eventually made the rubbish solid to utility, but nonsolid to players, which works perfectly, but it is likely marginally more work on map makers' behalf and we get into point 1.

    • @SilencePandaa
      @SilencePandaa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      @@16jms dev/software engineer here. It comes down to cost and complexity in coding. I wish I could say "just fix this/that" but in reality coding isn't like that. Although I've never worked directly with game engines, I've been told that they're more complex than just regular "languages" as you have to worry about so many different elements when it comes to developing games both coding and in a virtual space.
      Cost vs time is another big factor. Why waste so much money on fixing such a minor thing when you can literally just give out a handbook to HOPE that players won't break those rules. Yes I understand, it is frustrating that all of this is due to poor developing/coding however it is also on the players' part to respect the rules.

    • @caocao7925
      @caocao7925 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      but riot isn't some rookie company that still trying to find its way in the gaming industry, right? it's a big company with a big budget + this is a worldwide tournaments we're talking about here, i's not local or just an online friendly tournament, this is global competitions with money on stake, so fixing these bugs before any major tournament should be a priority @@SilencePandaa

  • @danielterossa4101
    @danielterossa4101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +240

    That last topic reminds me of a small Valorant Tournament hosted by a club in my uni a few months ago. Wasn’t a high stake tournament either, students of all ranks from iron to immo participated in the tournament for fun.
    Funny thing was that on Day 1, this specific player was playing like a literal ape then immediately had godlike aim and game sense on Day 2.
    It was revealed that bro had another player played on his acc as his ping was around 50 on Day 1 and 10 on Day 2. Dude and his team was banned from the tournament afterwards.

  • @primepsyrax
    @primepsyrax 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +210

    "Cheating" for a bug that Riot didn't fix? How illogical.

    • @AM-jc3wd
      @AM-jc3wd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      if I'm hosting a tournament and I tell you something is cheating then it is cheating no matter what lol. If I host a valorant tournament and I tell you that if jett players use their smokes it counts as cheating, then it is cheating no matter what lol. this isnt about whether riot fixes the bugs or not, its simply about following the rules and not doing what you are told not to do. they can have 100 bugs in a map but if they say you cant use them, then you cant use them, simple as that.

    • @mpgodjr
      @mpgodjr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@AM-jc3wdIf someone gave you 40 pages worth of spots and exploits would you memorize them all? If you then had to explain every single one of them to 5 different players and make sure THEY memorize every single one of them, would you be able to do that? Along with the pressure of being in an international level game and competing for tens of thousands of dollars. Yep. Seems simple doesn't it? It's completely on Riot. And don't even get me started on the second clip. The KJ didn't even use the molly.

    • @AM-jc3wd
      @AM-jc3wd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@mpgodjr those are things that you are agreeing to do when you enter the competition lol it’s entirely on the teams. If they can’t do that then don’t enter the tournaments, its that simple. Bro wants the teams to be spoon fed at this point 😭😭

    • @Infernos94
      @Infernos94 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AM-jc3wdnah that cam was normal af. How are 1 way smokes allowed but not a cam that is able to be placed in a spot that can be gotten to legitly? Riot should fix their textures instead of telling teams how to play.

    • @AM-jc3wd
      @AM-jc3wd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Infernos94 its their rules lol they choose what is allowed and what is not, if you don’t like it then don’t play in their tournaments and make your own lol

  • @user-wk1dn9fs4r
    @user-wk1dn9fs4r 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    Cheats probably cost more than 10 bucks so you're not even winning anything 😂😂😂

    • @piyushbansal3734
      @piyushbansal3734 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He probably already had it and thought to himself "why not use it" and might give him chance to flex before the world

    • @itsTyrion
      @itsTyrion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've seen the pricing of 2 cheats before - yes, we're talking about a lot more for even 30d of access. This was probably about flexing and not the money

  • @BrntVanilla
    @BrntVanilla 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +393

    Exploits shouldn't count imo... Maybe Riot should've fixed the bug or given them a warning after they get caught live during a match. As a developer, it is not fair to be blaming a user for your own fucking mistake unless they were actually trying to break/hack the software.

    • @edwardlu3485
      @edwardlu3485 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      But it is in a competitive setting where it is expected that individuals act with at least some degree of integrity and not try to do anything that is unbeatable.

    • @purpleguy3924
      @purpleguy3924 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      but its a tournament with money on the line, u are expected to act with integrity. In an online match u can use an exploit all u want, most of the time u wont get banned. this is a tournament with rules, and if they tell u to not do something, u should be smart enough not to do it. It is not always riots fault. Although if they ban someone in an online game for using it I think ur argument applies.

    • @nabkill0134
      @nabkill0134 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      They give them warning before every match so no they already do.

    • @style3804
      @style3804 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe they should fix their game then if it's so serious. Doesn't seem like adding some sorta barrier to these out of bounds areas would be too hard@@edwardlu3485

    • @spicesmuggler2452
      @spicesmuggler2452 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I agree they took the laziest path by throwing the blame onto the players instead of fixing it

  • @bananajoga
    @bananajoga 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +266

    The cam exploit was 1000% accidental. This was a very, very common cam placement in ranked (since this spot always existed). The VCT rulebook is giant, it's impossible to know every single bug in every single map.

    • @user-tb2vc2sl1q
      @user-tb2vc2sl1q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Womp womp

    • @_zaiinu
      @_zaiinu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      it's clearly the developers fault for not fixing that "known" bug and it making it into the official tournaments lmao... Such crybaby of a community.

    • @ac4694
      @ac4694 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-tb2vc2sl1q womp womp should be on developers imo. Gladly I don't play sh*t, but I'm wondering how many unfixed bugs are they "fixing" by rules

    • @user-tb2vc2sl1q
      @user-tb2vc2sl1q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@_zaiinu womp womp

    • @calvin6429
      @calvin6429 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      womp womp

  • @AhriMann
    @AhriMann 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    As a 3D artist, it’s fking easy to fix a bug like that furia ice box, or even cypher cam on breeze! It’s not a programming bug, it’s a placement problem, which could be fixed in a minute!

    • @alphatwink
      @alphatwink 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      It probably takes longer to write the rulebook than to fix the bugs... but Riot is just really inconsistent with their ruling and it is frustrating.

    • @kingderpington6082
      @kingderpington6082 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      for the kj icebox molly yes, the cypher cam you are completely wrong. It was a bug with how valorant loads textures, from the playable area (where players can move around in) the awning had no gap between it and the building, but from the unplayable area (cypher cam) the texture didnt load for etiher part of the awning or part of the building, allowing the cam to see through it. This has to do with resource management and nothing to do with 3D objects in the sense you are referring to

    • @AhriMann
      @AhriMann 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kingderpington6082 I’m not sure if you’re familiar with textures and objects or even 3D world, and how they work! We have different types of texturing, one is alpha textures, which localised textures invisibility, so you can see through an object masking a projected picture of a texture! For example, tree branches in games like pubg, those branches and leafs aren’t different objects, they’re pictures of branches and leafs projecting via an alpha channel on a solid plane, that’s why when you land on a tree on those games, it doesn’t feel like you landed on branches, or even when you shoot them, bullets don’t go through tree branches/leafs… so, I assuming, they’re using something like that there in breeze… however, loading textures doesn’t really have anything to do with problems like that (if you use a diffuse channel) since 3D objects are solid, if a texture doesn’t load properly, it shouldn’t give a see through, it gives you a solid object with no texture on it! Like a cube, or plane!
      Again I was responding to lil bro “Tarik” which said that it’s hard to fix maybe, which it isn’t! And maybe, maybe you are right, however, game runs in unreal engine, if textures don’t load as they suppose to, it’s the engine problem! But you might be right, you might know something that I have no clue about!

    • @paulola7707
      @paulola7707 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      riot issa small indie company, they dont have the money nor the capacity to fix such a huuuuge bug ;)) @@alphatwink

    • @quack9512
      @quack9512 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kingderpington6082 There isn't any need for that awning in the first place. Do you have any idea how easy it is to remove it?

  • @LukeSaward
    @LukeSaward 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    tbh if you get banned by Valorant anticheat you should never be allowed to play in Riot esports.

    • @hc32313
      @hc32313 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yeah, its kind of insulting how Nomsenpai only gets a 36 month ban when there's undeniable evidence but there's been people perma banned when they weren't even cheating just because they had a driver or software that wasn't whitelisted by Vanguard.

    • @Nameless_TF
      @Nameless_TF 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      people get banned by anticheat wrongly though

    • @NightTwister
      @NightTwister 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup

  • @iliekpie1251
    @iliekpie1251 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I like how they included the last one just because it's so funny to go from pro tournaments to a $50 cash prize high school tournament and calling it a big scandal

  • @Ikzylol
    @Ikzylol 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    2 high school teams in Ohio were playing in the regular spring season for EsportsOhio and one of the teams had someone who was caught using a VPN or something else because they didn't want to play at their school (One of the rules is to play at your school). The real reason was never known but the team I believed had to forfeit.

  • @KableMam
    @KableMam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I can see why gg got a warning, the coach unmuted and celebrated while T1's coach told them to help on a location.

    • @gidgettv1591
      @gidgettv1591 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      thats what i was going to say! like homeboy actively comms during the match and helped his team. the other we aren't 100% sure but only celebrated at the end of a round. like if he didn't help the match not such a big deal unlike steele or whatever his dumb name is

    • @KableMam
      @KableMam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @gidgettv1591 Imo celebrating with your team isn't cheating, he didn't give them any info, just screamed with them on comms. Meanwhile, T1 actively screaming help sewers 😂

  • @marinousi22
    @marinousi22 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    As a brazilian who also plays valorant, I can confirm cheating is very very heavy. Once a dude in my team asked if he could cheat because the other team was cheating (as if that would make it ok). It gets me so damn angry. And also, there are a lot of children playing. A LOT. Most of them use cheats.

    • @marinousi22
      @marinousi22 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DioBrando-yc5ry some of them get it for free, and some of them buy it with their parents' money

    • @MoleculeXmolecule
      @MoleculeXmolecule 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It's why I hated seeing Brazilians in Free to Play games. There was a strong chance that they were in a net cafe with cheats already preloaded into it.

    • @marinousi22
      @marinousi22 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@MoleculeXmolecule sadly, i very much agree with you

    • @sonwayd5540
      @sonwayd5540 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      provavelmente o cara do outro lado era bom e vcs tavam chorando kkkkkkkk acontece bastante também, principalmente no lol elo, que deve ser o caso

    • @marinousi22
      @marinousi22 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sonwayd5540 eu sou ruim mesmo kkkkkkk mas a partida terminou várias vezes abruptamente por causa dessas merdas. E olha que eu nunca joguei as mais sérias (porque sou ruim demais pra isso kkkkkkkkkkkk)

  • @hdanial1190
    @hdanial1190 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    So, this is by chronological order right. Cz we went so high up to GC tournaments, all the way down to school tournaments. It felt like crashing a car into a lake and slowly sinking

  • @TheWizardsOfOz
    @TheWizardsOfOz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The malibu picture is actually so obvious AI lmao, if that was a real person I would be impressed because most ai generated faces are extremely alike with that one.

  • @TheTiforce
    @TheTiforce 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    The funny story: when the game on Breeze was replayed, Acend started the game with a 7 point lead, based on the amount of rounds that VK used the cam (even if Acend didn't played that bomb site) and almost lost again.
    Brazil got shafted that year, bad times.

    • @kaiba8954
      @kaiba8954 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How did they go for 7 rounds without noticing the exploit?

    • @ale_wlv
      @ale_wlv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@kaiba8954 Its Riot doing Riot things. They even had "experts" on site watching the game to prevent cheats and exploits. Everybody, including the experts, saw the camera being used. No one, not even the experts, realized it was exploit. It was only announced after the game.

  • @ellis20022
    @ellis20022 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    idk why riot cant just patch bugs or accept theyre there instead of having dozens of people memorize 50 pages of rules that theyll probably forget in the heat of the moment due to muscle memory

    • @felixchiang
      @felixchiang 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      IKR!! if the game allows it, it should be okay!!

    • @m31i0n7
      @m31i0n7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@felixchiang But it's a professional tournament, meaning there will and should be rules and regulations to give both teams an equal chance of winning, that means taking down exploits

  • @DankManPlays
    @DankManPlays 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Anything that goes out of it's way to only have "marginalized groups" are doomed to fail. It is not what the person is that fucking matters, it's the skill, and clearly they had none

  • @cosmicmw3378
    @cosmicmw3378 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Someone probably already mentioned it but, another scandal( it was a long time ago but ill try my best) was g2 jett player(keloqz) using a banned jump glitch to get on top of c site gen with out updraft which caused them to lose a map veto, i believe this was during challengers idk what year.

  • @dylsegno349
    @dylsegno349 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Steel's really trash. He was a cheater in cs then cheater in valo. Then he has the audacity to tweet like that? Something's wrong with that guy's head.

    • @tanishqsagar3440
      @tanishqsagar3440 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Steel wasnt a cheater tho, he just purposefully lost a match. Thats like the opposite of cheating lol

  • @enyeng0
    @enyeng0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    the first one is easily fixable on riot's side. why didn't they just fixed that exploit instead of making rules against it?

    • @brichess8227
      @brichess8227 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      best part is the 6 experts and referees they had watching the game along with 8 casters in various langugages along with 5 players and 4 coaches of the opposite team that all missed the exploit

  • @alexmark6580
    @alexmark6580 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    The Malibu incident is so funny and then "she or he" uses the trans get out of jail card. Actually comedic and takes away from their own community gotta love it.

    • @mohammedgore6259
      @mohammedgore6259 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And they say we target the so called "minority community" 😂

    • @maman7212
      @maman7212 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its just identity problem but the skill or gameplay is not hack right?

    • @alexmark6580
      @alexmark6580 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@maman7212 huh? I don't really understand what you are saying, but the cheating is terrible.
      I'm mainly speaking on whatever excuse Malibu is using. It only causes further denigration of the trans community she is supposedly a part of.

    • @DARTVAIDIK069
      @DARTVAIDIK069 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maman7212 it's not id issue it's cheating issue & id issue

    • @user-zu1pe1di4r
      @user-zu1pe1di4r 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alexmark6580 obviously trans is a loophole for men to compete with women as they are too inferior to compete with real men

  • @legendneverdie3435
    @legendneverdie3435 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    To me is crazy how players get penalized because riot games just don't fix their codes or re-adjust maps. How do you expect for a game to be 100% when you got exploit in the game for weeks and don't fix it.

    • @nabkill0134
      @nabkill0134 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Because riot already told them they cant do that? You saying that like fixing bug is freaking easy which I guess is normal for consumer to asume. Most think you could just throw money and it would be fixed.

    • @andriosgustav5578
      @andriosgustav5578 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      If the bug was new, sure. But this and so much more bugs have been around for so long that it's stupid to think that they could not fix it. Remember that riot games isn't a small indie game, they are a massive video game company with multiple offices around the globe. It's not as if they handle 200 fucking game titles

    • @thomarmartinslasanha
      @thomarmartinslasanha 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nabkill0134riot can tell they on the exact time that they used one and do a chronobrack to. just let it pass and punish the people after the game have no sense

    • @davidkim6169
      @davidkim6169 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nabkill0134 i dont know man, they said the bug is just from texture colors being similar, sounds like a super easy fix to me

    • @kwizzeh
      @kwizzeh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nabkill0134 Well, yes, that's generally how it works. They have the money but not the incentive so instead they create infractions for using, intentional or not, the bugs in the game. If this was 15-20 years ago, strategies & counter-strategies would be developed around these bugs and a savvy map creator would decompile, fix and make the maps have even better visual clarity for the competitive scene. This is exactly what happened with Team Fortress, Counter-Strike and Quake competitive scenes and they did it *for free*. Unless the issue is very egregious and provides an unfair advantage, like the infamous Olof spot on an old iteration of Overpass in CSGO, everything else should be fair game.

  • @Icanaraa
    @Icanaraa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I really can‘t with those stupid comments.. Ofc its Riot fault with the exploit, still it was in the rules and they knew it. Actively ignoring the rules to have a huge advantage is just unsportsmanlike. They did the right thing

  • @frozen1255
    @frozen1255 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    that first one is valroants fault honestly

  • @pikakillah_8015
    @pikakillah_8015 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    if a glitch has been in the game for more than a month I would side with that its fair game unless it causes internet issues or frame drops. Unless it is openly told to everyone clearly that its not allowed. For the cypher camera case, the rule book better show which cameras are not allowed and have an image of the camera location in game or something.

  • @Meekox
    @Meekox 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't understand why cheaters in champions get lighter sentence than cheaters in normal lobbies, doesn't make any sense

  • @ImnaZeppeli
    @ImnaZeppeli 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    I think once an exploit survives 1 update it shouldn’t be punishable to use it cause at that point it’s riot who are okay with the exploit being in the game

    • @Mark-xk3hh
      @Mark-xk3hh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      why does this have 18 likes

    • @Vipa567
      @Vipa567 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@Mark-xk3hh Because they're right, players shouldn't be penalized because Riot is too lazy to fix bugs.

    • @BrotherCheng
      @BrotherCheng 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mark-xk3hh Riot owns the software. It's not like they don't have the ability to patch such "exploits" out. Having the software work one way and then having a giant set of rules about what is not ok to use is massively confusing, and someone can simply have misremembered what is or isn't an exploit. Having the ability to keep the entire list of banned exploits in your head isn't a skill I want to see in competitive video games.

    • @Mark-xk3hh
      @Mark-xk3hh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@BrotherCheng not only were the exploits explicitly stated in the rules for each tournament, how does one "misremember" that an unbreakable kj molly or cypher cam is not an exploit? If you're in the most prestigious tournament of the entire game and you use obvious exploits like that, you know exactly what you're doing. You can't argue it's "Riot's fault for not instantly patching it" when its common sense to not literally cheat in a tournament especially when its banned in the tournament rules LMAO

    • @3htthexy
      @3htthexy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Vipa567 you guys have some really dumb and broken moral compasses. if you know youre cheating, you know youre cheating. why try to blame someone else for your malicious actions? play with fire, get burned. you deserve whatever you get if you're going to use obvious exploits, its not that difficult

  • @RobChau90
    @RobChau90 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That Malibu person doubling down is hilarious

  • @jontroyer7321
    @jontroyer7321 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    game changers became a joke when it became mostly guys that couldnt make it in vct

  • @CrestedRN
    @CrestedRN 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Awesome video, music is sometimes a bit louder than the commentary tho

  • @heavyrain4e112
    @heavyrain4e112 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An easy fix for that camera exploit I think would just be to remove that awning. It’s not like anyone can get up there and there aren’t any abilities that would be thrown there. Just seems like decoration that is easily removable

  • @CaseyRedgrave
    @CaseyRedgrave 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Honestly, banning exploits is a dumb rule. Instead of banning people for using, how about you patch it before tournaments? Oh wait....this is Riot.

    • @hc32313
      @hc32313 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I guess you could argue that for known exploits. But exploits have a blanket ban BECAUSE pro teams used to spend months trying to find exploits. A pretty well known case is the Olofboost in CSGO. There was no way for Valve to patch something they weren't even aware of, and if they hadn't of had the ban on using exploits and glitchspots Fnatic would've won.

    • @dk-hv9eq
      @dk-hv9eq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      nah people think fixing a bug is like 2-3 hours of time ,nah nah, as a dev for mobile apps, I can say its not that simple, for any bug to be fixed it has to go through
      sprint planning -> qa retesting and steps to reproduce -> dev having bandwidth to pick it up(issues will be picked up by priority) -> fix -> qa -> regression testing -> released in patch
      its not as simple as just fix it , Devs are almost short staffed and priorities are not set up by dev's...And i can say it is much more complex for Games...

    • @jewels3846
      @jewels3846 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This moment reminded me exactly of the olofboost. That was iconic to witness live ​@@hc32313

    • @IOverlord
      @IOverlord หลายเดือนก่อน

      LoL: First time?

    • @taichou9475
      @taichou9475 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dk-hv9eq they knew about that exploits for months 💀

  • @ziyaokong9493
    @ziyaokong9493 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    riot never gives a damn about exploits unless u are at a tournament, there is so many exploits in the game it crazy and ever if u report someone who uses it in a comp riot just dont care plus riot just put it in the rule book and expects the players to remember all it like bruh

  • @trashwizard7055
    @trashwizard7055 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    turn the music down so I can hear what your saying

  • @wootle
    @wootle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I really dont understand the cheat hammer landing on players that used an "exploit" that was present in the game and not patched. How is that "cheating"? The bug is there in the game for ANY team to use. I dont play this game so could someone explain that Cypher camera thing?

    • @dragonl4d216
      @dragonl4d216 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It all comes to Riot for not fixing the bug and instead create a 40 page rule book about what cannot be done during the tournament.

    • @psychokuca302
      @psychokuca302 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They have a special rule book with exploits taht are prohibited. Not all exploits are disallowed.
      Cypher cam can spot enemies, but while sypher usus, it becomes visible while not using its hidden in invis), but it was placed that way,so ene,y team couldnt see it at all. And this is know place and is ruled out in the book.

    • @rats7386
      @rats7386 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      you say "exploit" as if it not and exploit when it clearly is an exploit. ya riot should fix it, also PRO players and put on a high expectation, if you can't read the rules for X amount of money then don't play. exploiting is cheating, simple as that. sorry that your dense brain can comprehend that. feel bad for you kiddo

  • @RealTaIk
    @RealTaIk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What I don't understand is that valorants cheating detection software still isn't able to identify every single cheat. People were furious about the software being so intrusive on your system but in the end accepted it due to riot saying they have to do it to ensure there won't be cheaters. Somehow there are still cheaters...

    • @christianjonahzapanta6954
      @christianjonahzapanta6954 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      interesting,, may i see the video of the whole game ?

    • @kwizzeh
      @kwizzeh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Their software isn't infallible and they directly challenged the hacker community by announcing that their anti-cheat was impenetrable. No one should be surprised that it was.

    • @itsTyrion
      @itsTyrion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there are very few cheaters.
      The livestreams I've seen were all fake (obv. prerecorded and spliced together), the 2 times I encountered a cheater they were banned before the match ended.
      And, people are going to extreme lengths to cheat in Valorant.
      2 Methods I'm aware of (idk 'bout the 2024 state, I don't cheats, I read about it because the tech is interesting):
      - A cheat that runs at ring 0 (kernel level).
      - The other is DMA (DirectMemoryAccess), using a device to tamper with memory contents while the game is running, the cheat running on a 2nd PC.
      At this point, just sell your PC and go outside, jesus christ.

    • @RealTaIk
      @RealTaIk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@itsTyrion hahaha fan boy

    • @itsTyrion
      @itsTyrion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RealTaIk Are you intentionally stupid?

  • @zehell777
    @zehell777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a non valorant and a dota player the first video glitch where cypher cam cant be seen or hit? thats not against the rules its your fault RIOT for not fixing it. See we even have scenes like this in dota called the fountain hook, valve just fix it after the game because every team could have done that, but Na'vi found it first and abuse it before its fixed, same goes for the cypher, you shoulve just let them take the W and fix your mistakes after the game instead of disqualifying hard working players who grind every day for that tournament

  • @WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE
    @WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    JHow's case was different the game had a bug that riot never addressed so he used it. Much like Fnatic's Overpass discovering a spot where they could see everyone on the other team.

  • @wterfell6599
    @wterfell6599 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    cheating in a $10 tournament is the lowest of low.

  • @MardyEReyes
    @MardyEReyes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    all I can say is, games are nearly impossible to not get compromised of hacking/cheats

  • @ameena1058
    @ameena1058 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Another phenomenal video🔥🔥

  • @joshiemah
    @joshiemah 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Cypher Exploit: noob ban
    m0nesy mirage window exploit: gigachad allowed
    Valorant Exploit: People try to abuse it
    CS Exploit: Gentlemen's Agreement (jump peek glitch)

    • @Joshid1212
      @Joshid1212 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol

  • @dieypslackiert
    @dieypslackiert 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So... did i get that right? Subroza tweeted mid-game that the T1 coach was communicating with his team? But didn't he break the rules with this tweet as well? BC when u look on that ToS text passage right before the highlighted part it says that "players may not text/email or use social media while in the match area". So Subroza tweeting mid-game was fine but the coach talking to his team wasn't?

  • @spgaming1272
    @spgaming1272 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    only RIOT can ban people instead of fixing the game. Best company out there by far 🤡

  • @Jdrunnin
    @Jdrunnin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A lot of bug and exploit abuse arguements are "why don't you fix it," and while I agree they should, there are explicit rules against unsportsmanlike conduct like abusing it. Love seeing players get penalized for abuse

  • @stalin3583
    @stalin3583 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    0:00 - 3:00
    *Olofmeister enters the chat*
    Olofmeister: 👀

  • @lw8882
    @lw8882 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Using an exploit you know for a fact is disallowed specifically in the rules isn't borderline. Borderline is using a boost on a map to see an area and then the rest of the tournament teams and the organizer going "hey what the hell you shouldnt do that" like what happened with fnatic in csgo on overpass.

  • @deeptendrachakraborty8311
    @deeptendrachakraborty8311 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Valorant Mumbai server is a troll on RIOT's face, as majority of the players are on aimbot or walling.

    • @tanishqsagar3440
      @tanishqsagar3440 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or maybe you're just bad? 20$ for cheats is a lot in India

  • @okinamo2693
    @okinamo2693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    there is bug with syphers camera how to fix it?
    riot : "nerfs chamber"

  • @maressaz
    @maressaz 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    most of the silly "expoits" should've been fixed by riot LONG before the competition. the killjoy molly being in the rulebook mean they're well aware of the issue, and could've redesigned the box instead of saying "ok so we effed up the map, but you can't use that."

  • @Beanr6
    @Beanr6 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Tarik saying that maybe riot doesnt know how to fix that in the second clip is silly its literally a gap close it. It wasnt too difficult.

  • @horaciorodd
    @horaciorodd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How about Riot fixes their f*cking game instead of punishing a competitive player who of course, wants to win and will do anything the game allows him to do in order to achieve that.

  • @UltraDumbass
    @UltraDumbass 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    if they know that cypher spot exists, they could just fix it

  • @Lime-rr6zf
    @Lime-rr6zf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can't hear what you're saying the music is drowning your audio.

  • @azazaelll
    @azazaelll 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    when gamers don't read the rule book because they're too busy reading twitch chat

  • @thestreakingninja
    @thestreakingninja 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    every killjoy i knew used that icebox molly spot since the beginning of the map's release all the way up until they took took it out with the new update. honestly should not have been penaltied for it

  • @gxalcremieshiny4229
    @gxalcremieshiny4229 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Maintaining the integrity of our competitive ranks is top priority"
    But fixing said integrity exploits is not until actually applied?
    Says enough I think

  • @csnorth7
    @csnorth7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That guy said "fking aimbot" in a Riot game? His days are numbered

  • @premiumfruits3528
    @premiumfruits3528 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine needing to cheat in Playskool counter strike. Yikes.

  • @marshall_aks
    @marshall_aks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny thing is it's always the team members who never knew that they had a cheater among them. Yeah buddy

  • @normantaffefiny8227
    @normantaffefiny8227 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    steel is a non-cheat/forfeiter for more than a decade now

  • @ryanmalik3378
    @ryanmalik3378 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    from what i see, why riot not fix their game before the tournament start? i mean if they fix it before, the team cant use exploit in first place.

    • @lawrencelopez9839
      @lawrencelopez9839 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's expected that adults are usually smart enough not to break the rules in front of an audience while being recorded. They're not six year olds

  • @uMAtiQ
    @uMAtiQ หลายเดือนก่อน

    tbh, if it's in the game, it's in the game. Using strats such as the Cypher cam give you an advantage, yes. But you can play around it, once you know he uses it

  • @reka10
    @reka10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't realise DSG Steel was a cheater. I guess it makes sense how their team can't seem to win despite having all that talent.

    • @keisariberti
      @keisariberti หลายเดือนก่อน

      Match fixing =/= cheating

  • @John-bm6rs
    @John-bm6rs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    blame the game not the player! Im using that cypher camera and how come it is illegal? once you enter half of the site that camera is visible

  • @EclipseArtStudios
    @EclipseArtStudios 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Literally every cypher player in comp^

  • @AnxiousVal
    @AnxiousVal หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am gonna be honest but Nomsenpai's aimbot wasn't much detectable because good players would prefire the angles when they fight another enemy expecting a peek off contact

  • @4lexvods
    @4lexvods 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    why is this video so dark

  • @hanebados292
    @hanebados292 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Exploits should not be in the game. It is Valos job to prevent such a spot from even being able to be playable.

  • @simont1709
    @simont1709 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    for some reason the cypher exploit reminds me of olof skybox on overpass 😅

  • @roastedcikienn1087
    @roastedcikienn1087 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imagine banning/disqualified for exploiting that game dev never fix. Wildin out

  • @cerealkiller2884
    @cerealkiller2884 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i use that cam every single breeze match

  • @alphahawk325
    @alphahawk325 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If they made it clear that using exploits is cheating than sure

  • @belchicola
    @belchicola 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    only at 2:20, but the ruling of "forfeit the rounds where an exploit was used" seems like a pretty bad one. In a game where ult advantage, team economy, and equipment persists between rounds, it may only take 1 single round of unfair advantage to swing a whole map in favor of a team.
    I guess it didn't matter in this one instance, but that punishment doesn't seem like it sufficiently addresses the advantage you can gain. That said, I think forced replay is a better solution, like when Fnatic used the famous Overpass boost in CS:GO (though iirc Fnatic chose to forfeit after the ruling)

  • @Dolcive
    @Dolcive 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the vignette makes the video so hard to watchh

  • @ShinMegamiTenseiEnjoyer
    @ShinMegamiTenseiEnjoyer วันที่ผ่านมา

    tf Vanguard? stealing my personal info just for players to cheat anyways?

  • @biiyen8458
    @biiyen8458 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Riot knew there were exploits in the game then why didn't they just patch them out?

  • @Phiilly
    @Phiilly 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this channel hella underrated

  • @UpstageBeast
    @UpstageBeast 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro that last one was gold lmao. Guy absolutely would've moved mountains to get that $10 XD

  • @CowsDaBest
    @CowsDaBest หลายเดือนก่อน

    my eyes hurt because of the vignette around the video

  • @Star-ef6dr
    @Star-ef6dr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Typical Riot not fixing things

  • @animeknowledge5048
    @animeknowledge5048 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    bro why is the music louder than your voice

  • @willn4129
    @willn4129 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this real really less than 4 k subs, this is unbelievable quality keep it up :p.

  • @toxicfgc5169
    @toxicfgc5169 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I fr forgot about Steel.

  • @cbtohka5404
    @cbtohka5404 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Malibu incident is f hilarious xD How the hell are you able to enter a tournament by sending Riot an AI generated picture and then cheat in it too

    • @sandz000
      @sandz000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      whats funny is in my language malibu means literally "cheater" , what a coincidence.

  • @bryanmulcare9083
    @bryanmulcare9083 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:27 my favorite team by far in champions 2021 Berlin was gambit. I wish they can continued their legacy if it wasn’t their unfortunate circumstances.

  • @Yiyhouzouzu
    @Yiyhouzouzu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thing is, people are like ''omg caught a cheater'' when in reality there are so many more cheating than those getting caught lmao. ANYWAYS. Spend more money on anti cheats and don't let people come with their own headset, keyboard, mouse to tourneys would be a good start. Don't let them use config keys so u can spot unusual key presses. And Review audio for any unusual ''Esp sound''. ANYWAYS. Lot that can be done to detect cheaters. The way pros position too looks very sussy for someone spectating the tourney. Wtv.

  • @Lonewanderer6666
    @Lonewanderer6666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Toast farming all these spicy content for view is the real cheat here.

  • @SeventhSaturday77
    @SeventhSaturday77 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's not easy to fix an exploit. Like the exploit with Killjoy's molly, a change in 3d model's parameter can affect many other parts of the game.

    • @ThePingomartin
      @ThePingomartin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Killjoy molly: make a copy model, adjust set model to be slightly wider than before and done..
      Cypher cam: fixed by simple removing the "hitbox" used to place the cam and done...
      wow so hard, this is done in many and i mean MANY other games so yes it is very easy to fix
      riot are being extremly lazy about alot of these issues that would take maybe a few hours to fix

    • @SeventhSaturday77
      @SeventhSaturday77 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThePingomartin That is just how to fix the problem based on idea, not the whole progress. Well, they may just don't want to fix it.

    • @SeventhSaturday77
      @SeventhSaturday77 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThePingomartin It's the rigid body that affects the game, not the model. The model is only what you can see, not how objects interact physically. While most game companies build their own physical environment, adjusting just a little in the parameter of an object could affect a lot of things regarding physical operation. While adjusting the parameter, they will also have to adjust its weight, physical resistance, bend resistance, appearance, UV maps (which affect how we see the molly, a small chance will lead to completely redoing the UV), geometry,... So, to sum up, the idea may sound easy, but the process to do that is pretty complicated even for a quite simple-looking game like this one. That's why to us programmers, testers, and QA, and QC departments are like enemies since they also bring a lot of work.
      This information is only based on what I know about 3D (which I'm still learning), coding, and the process of testing and fixing a problem regarding apps or game development. I may make a mistake somewhere, but I still believe that fixing a bug or exploit is not as easy as it may seem.

    • @ThePingomartin
      @ThePingomartin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SeventhSaturday77 fair point that being said its not hard enough to take a company like riot months to fix.

    • @SeventhSaturday77
      @SeventhSaturday77 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThePingomartin Yes. Riot is a big company, and is paid by a wealthy Tencent, so it's hard to imagine thry can't fix these exploits. So the true reason may be because they don't want to fix.

  • @scr1pted-by5zp
    @scr1pted-by5zp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just because you can place the cam there doesn’t mean you should use it

  • @sillymari01
    @sillymari01 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i don't play valorant at all so i have no knowledge on the game's community and stuff but i just noticed that nomsenpai's ban was enacted on my birthday lmao

  • @risingpheonix7740
    @risingpheonix7740 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man the audio-mixing during the NomSenpai part makes it hard to hear what's being said. Really needs a review to make sure that the narrator is audible.

  • @vexs4883
    @vexs4883 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    let me say this if the glitch is in the rule book they should fucking fix it

  • @wellowood
    @wellowood 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Jihow" fez meus ouvidos sangrarem