As someone that has owned, sailed and lived on the Hanse 315 I can tell you that many of your observations are totally on spot. It is a wonderful sailing yacht for its size and price. The Hanse 315 will always hold a special place in my heart. We purchased the yacht in 2018 as a demo boat loaded with all gadgets one could need for coastal cruising + some extras such as auto pilot and on board Wi-Fi. The intention was to sail only in the Swedish archipelago, year round. This we did, and I can tell you, I’ve been at the helm in almost every conceivable weather and crew size. As a sailing vessel it’s a great cruiser, but a sloppy racer. You won’t set any speed records in this Hanse at least not compared to other and even smaller yachts as the Hanse 315 have a comparably heavy keel which amounts to around 33% of the total weight. Very good for heavy weather but to be honest a sluggish racer. Regarding the CE classification, this is not something to get hung up on. What made the Hanse get a B rating and not an A is as far as I know a result of European bureaucracy. If I remember correctly the hull itself would have got an ocean rating of A but I think it lacked sufficient ladders for MOB situations as well as a lack of designated storage for life raft. Other than that it’s an exceptionally stable craft especially compared with the French ones and the more sportier options out there such as J-boats and Dehler. You need to remember and will be reminded in light breezes that it has close to the same ratio of keel weight to total weight as many of the quality yachts from the renowned ship yards such as Hallberg Rassy, Najad, Oyster in the same ship size. This makes it an incredibly safe yacht to handle solo in some really bad weather. Although it doesn’t handle waves as good as something with a more traditional hull shape (round) you always feel at ease at the helm. Even in gales, bordering on storm force winds with the right sailplan you should be more than fine solo sailing even as an intermediate when it comes to sailing experience and skill. We also went with the optional light wind sail, a gennaker. This was a fairly good choice although I would have gone with a code 0 in retrospect. As for stability, this is a stable boat, not by the construction mainly but because of its weight. It is although an extremely well balanced hull, which means it holds its course even when tacking. (Excuse my lacking sailing vocabulary..). The traveller is also very welcomed as compared to the German sheeting. The ability to solo sail is one of the greatest points to owning a Hanse 315, which gives you more time at sea under sail. As we always say: “owning a boat is the most expensive when you ain’t at sea”. As far as liveability goes its also great for its size. The heads is closer to something you would find on a 40 footer, so is the cockpit and the stern “stateroom”. The water tanks are very over sized even.. you can feel the difference when the yacht is fully filled up with water compared to empty.. Our Hanse housed 160 litres of fresh water but only 40liters in the water heater which is a bit sparse of you ask me (I prefer long showers). The fuel tanks held 100liters, I don’t care to calculate the amount in gallons but I can tell you that it was enough for half a season here. Meaning 1-2 trips a week for maybe three months. Although many shorter day trips all around the year. We sailed from January to December which is very rare here in Scandinavia. There is also further additional storing capacity under the sofas in the saloon if tank storage is of concern. As I lived on the yacht for three entire summers I have had time to experience many everyday situations in the Hanse. Everything from cooking to navigating company of all kinds. It’s a comparably roomy yacht with many over head windows which are great. They can be opened all’s but the middle one and they also come with sufficient blinds. The side windows though can be covered but with an inadequate cover. Would recommend to change the side window-blinds if you are going on longer live aboard trips. The galley is also fairly small and especially the sink. But if you have done enough meal prep and/or won’t cook extravagant five course dinners it should be sufficient. You have berths for five people sleeping comfortably and six if you have a guest that is under 165 centimetres tall as one of the saloon sofas is shorter than the other. This is done to make space for the chart table where you can sit in the sofa facing the stern. This is also where you have your main power sockets besides the USB ports in all reading lamps onboard. If you intend to work from the yacht I would recommend that you install more sockets though.. As for general comfort the yacht is great, the cockpit table and shower are small items which makes you feel like you are sailing something nice. The table is made of solid wood and metal which gives a quality feel. The outside shower is both hot and cold. Great for late night swims or just after bathing. One thing that is lacking though is exterior lights, there are none. Maybe as an option but otherwise I would recommend installing. The bathing platform is very aesthetically pleasing, and useful. It fairly heavy though and can feel somewhat whimsical.. I would also strongly recommend finding a yacht with teak deck, at least in the cockpit as plastic can feel a bit hollow and cheap, especially on cruisers that should not feel overly sporty. As for maintenance, I guess this is a very individual and geographically tied aspect. The amount of time spent compared to money paid to the shipyard. But if you do a lot of things yourself it shouldn’t be a concern with the Hanse 315 as it, after all, is a pocket sized yacht. And with an engine to match. Here I would be extremely adamant that you choose the larger engine option. This yacht needs at least 18hp to move confidently. If possible I would even try to get an even larger engine. Now to the negatives.. as it is a German built and mass produced yacht it is lacking in interior style (German) and quality (mass produced). You will hear squeaking from the fittings and you will discover cracks in the gellcoat.. this is not a quality build even though it’s better than many others in the same size and price range, I would argue that build quality compared to the French alternatives is much better not to speak of the American and Eastern European boats.. There is off course some positive aspects with mass production such as technology and options trickling down from the larger yachts in the Hanse range. Further on the negative side, we have the standard sails (Dacron), and they are to be completely honest worthless.. and I strongly recommend anyone that purchase a Hanse to either get it with upgraded sail options or get new ones sewn up. Other than this the Hanse 315 is a great pocket sized yacht and as you say champagne for the price of beer! Talking about price.. ours sold for the same price we bought it for in 2018.. that in itself says a lot about the demand for this type of yacht and as well the economy in general as we sold just before the rate hikes this spring/summer. Although I’m not completely up to date with prices and conversion rates I think you should be prepared to pay around 80-90k USD to get one that hasn’t been charter sailed and where all taxes are paid. At least if you are from Europe. I won’t speak for the US market. To summarise, I truly love the Hanse 315, it’s seaworthiness and ingenious hull design. The great liveability with large tanks for both fuel and fresh water. The fun sailing and great performances in heavy weather. The beautiful design and large cockpit with the twin steering wheels that opens up the horizons, I can’t remember how many times in the last 3 years I’ve sat down in the cockpit and stared out at the sunset with a glass of “beverage” and nice company. And lastly the very well rounded package of a sail yacht that you get with the Hanse 315. I would really recommend anyone to consider this yacht when looking for a new one.
Live and learn: The Hanse (Hanseatic League, Old High German for "crowd" or "retinue") was an interest group for seafaring merchants who together sent their precious cargoes on great, adventurous voyages in search of good business.
Chris, this is a very COMPELLING boat! For me, it would be tough to decide between this and the Jenneau 349. The Hanse has a huge water tank, especially for the size; it holds more water than tanks on much larger vessels. The running costs would be excellent; over time, you'd save a pretty penny there. I like the interior very much. It's not too packed; it's not too open. It's not too luxurious; it's not to spartan. It's not too dark; it's not too light. It's like Goldilocks-just RIGHT! The interior is one of the best I've seen. I like the helm. I like the cockpit. I like the deck layout; it's spacious and uncluttered. For overall layout (both interior and exterior), this boat is one of the best. What DON'T I like about the Hanse? First is the swim platform; though it almost matches the boat's beam, it's small and high off the water. I couldn't really stretch out and relax on it. It's also just high enough off the water to make dinghy ingress and egress a PITA. The same goes for entering the water or climbing back aboard. As someone who's 60 with knees that have seen their better days, the swim platform would be a near dealbreaker for me. That was the first thing I noticed on the boat-the high and narrow swim platform. As for Atlantic crossings, why not? Sam Holmes took a Ranger 23 from Long Beach to Hawaii, for cryin' out loud! I would think that an Atlantic crossing, though challenging, would be feasible in the Hanse. One would have to be careful about timing the crossing to avoid the worst weather, but I don't see why the Hanse couldn't do it. In conclusion, this is a compelling boat. The running costs would be great, especially long term. The overall layout is excellent. The water tank is great, and the fuel tank is all right. The swim platform really lets this boat down for me. If the swim platform were like that of the Jenneau 349, then the Hanse would be a no-brainer. I guess the big question is: how likely are you to do an Atlantic crossing again? Would it be soon? With hundreds of islands in the Caribbean, one could spend a lifetime sailing down there. As I said, this would tie the Jenneau 349. What lets down the Hanse is the puny, elevated swim platform. If not for that, the choice would be easy.
With the same criteria, I just bought a 2007 Hanse 370e. The Hanse epoxy versions are, in my humble opinion, the best ever built, before the quality dropped considerably at all the major manufacturers. Another advantage is that there is a separate shower with a plexiglass door. 🙂
I spent 7 years and a lot of $ refitting an older bluewater boat, only find that my wife really meant it when she said she wouldn't go offshore with me. So now I'm selling the bluewater boat and I found this Hanse 315 at the Annapolis Boat Show this past October (2023). I was convinced I needed 35 to 37 ft to get what I needed, even for just sailing the great lakes and down the east coast. But the Hanse 315 had everything I wanted, and the smaller package means that it's cheaper in every respect, and easier to operate. I'm not so budget constrained, so as soon as I sell my current boat I think I'll order a new Hanse 315. It also has an electric drive option that I will seriously consider.
Love the boat. Good price, deep keel, performance, lower running costs. Size is plenty for 2 livaboard. The wet heads of these newer boats seem to dry out quick, be showering on deck alot. .
Third no no for me is the main traveler on the cockpit floor. You can't fully enclose the cockpit for cold or inclement weather easily. Very nice boat for sure. But you would feel cramped after a year if that. You would grow out of the boat. I think you would end up hating it over time because it will just be too small. I could be wrong though. If it was another 5 to 8 feet long it would be great. I personally just can't see a 31 footer as a live aboard.
If one were available in the layout you most prefered, I would not see it as a huge compromise. I mean, I guess the "line in the sand" would be it has to be the draft and layout that you most want, otherwise, keep looking.
95% of what I want .. and lower price .. hell yes. Buy what works for you now and don't worry about 5 years time .. it will change anyway. Money worries are soul destroying .. if you can minimise that you will be happier. Only questions seem to be will this boat suit you right now and will you be happy living and sailing in it for few years.
I have been watching your vids for a while, and I get your perspective. I don't agree, but I get it. Whether I generally agree with your perspective regarding boats or not, I actually think this is a great boat for you. It is a bang for the buck boat. Pretty, roomy, swim platform, dual helms... You have what I will refer to as a "high disregard" for blue-water boats. You don't think the cost or the design compromises are worth the implied safety. So, why worry about the rating? You can put some extras on it that will basically make it comparable to what is currently rated as CEA that you are also considering. To be clear, this is not a snarky comment. I really think that based on many hours of listening to you describe what you want, that this boat really fits.
Id like one as a liveaboard for sailing Adriatic and Northern Mediterranean. Like the idea of island hopping anchoring in quiet bays. Its not just the cost of the boat. I wonder how much it would cost to keep a boat in Croatia and Greece.
I think it suites most your needs. If the price is right, go for it. How many $$$$ is a separate shower worth to you? I didn't know they made dual helms in this size boat.
Would you install a symmetrical spinnaker on it? With the fractional jib and the swept back spreaders (they look like they have a pretty good angle to them), it doesn't look like you could get that big main out too far?
Once I saw the Beneteau 41 I can't do a 31'0. Stand up shower is a must and the beam is really important. The Hans is nice ,economic and a great cockpit. But the Beneteau, Jeaneau or Bavaria 34'0 plus is a must.
Hmmm. If your not crossing, it works. However, no separate shower. I stood in the toilet shower on a 4 master brigantine, previously owned by Onassis. Not my preference. What about family? No visitors? Children? Nay I say.
All the boats under 40 vs hause are small and the worse thing is waste of space. Layout looks great! Second thing. Going offshore with assumption to switch to the life raft is a bad idea. Still as you said all Caraiben or Mediterranean will be available. I wonder what will be the cost of shipping this baby across the Atlantic after this 5 years. Maybe you can save more money on the running cost :) Maybe someone knows...
If you had a bigger budget and could go up to 50ft, are there any disadvantages to that? Is it harder to find a harbor space? Maintenance running cost a lot higher? Unable to run it on your own? I'm very new to this.
This was my first dream boat. I loved the torqeedo option instead of the diesel. After seeing some youtubers who charter their Hanse and had it run aground, they discovered the manufacturing process is not as advertised. Things supposed to be tabbed in and laminated are not. I lost a little love for them. Nice looking boats though.
For what it's worth, almost nobody tabs their grids in, these days. It would take too much time, (that is, money). The boats that are built that way are hideously expensive. (See: Kraken Yachts, for example. )
@@SuperJV4x "tab their grids": Almost all current fiberglass boats are built with relatively thin fiberglass skins. In order to strengthen the boats, and specifically to stiffen them so they don't deform under the load of the rig, or riding over waves, a grid of fiberglass box frames running both latitudinally and longitudinally is attached to the hull interior. It would be best, strongest, if that grid structure was attached by applying fiberglass along the joints, "tabbing", but, as that would require a great deal of time and labor, the current practice in "production class" boats is to simply glue the grid in with 3M 5200 or a similar adhesive. And that works mostly well enough, (if properly done), until you put the hull/grid joint under the kind of stresses generated by a grounding incident, where the point loading forces easily exceed the strength of the bonding material, and the grid separates from the hull. (Tabbing would distribute the load over a much wider area and *might* survive the impact. It also might fail... grounding forces are hard to estimate, and can be truly massive. But the point remains, tabbing would almost certainly be stronger than a glue joint.)
You know, as someone who is looking for a coastal cruiser, it would be good for me and the wife. And the price is hard to beat. However.... Those low costs seem to be only in Europe. Maybe they will make it over here to North America some day.
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I have a question for you if you don't mined giving me your opinion . there is a 2000 beneteau oceanis 46.1 for sale for $149,900 do you think that is over priced . i dont know the condition of it yet going to look at it sunday . it looks like it has been taking care of thats why we have decided to go look at it.
I assume it's a 461 not a 46.1 as the 46.1 was first built in 2017 . A 461 for 149,000 is absurdly over priced . Unless it's just had a complete refit including new electronics, solar, sails, standing rigging, dingy and so on it's not even worth going to look at
@@ChasingLatitudes thats what i thought and yes its a 461 , and sorry the price was 144,900 . Check it out on yacht world its in Annapolis Maryland. What do you think a good price for that boat would be ? And by the way i love your videos watch them all the time .
You can sail this ship for the next 5-10 years, but do you want to buy a new boat after that? For solo it is allright, I would be happy as hell with it, but bringing a woman to this bost full time, could be….. a challenge :)
Is there enough room on that boat to continue being a content creator? I could see having a dedicated space for that being somewhat important. I share your dislike of a wetted, but that might be ok.
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Nothing to do with the boat as that’s your area of expertise but your short term plans are island hoping, a lot can happen in five years. This boat model seems to tick most of the boxes for you. If you do need a CE A rated vessel you probably can sell this then and with all the money you’ve saved from an overpriced hole in the water buy the boat fit for that purpose. Plus, you have five years of watching and waiting for the inevitable crash.
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As someone that has owned, sailed and lived on the Hanse 315 I can tell you that many of your observations are totally on spot. It is a wonderful sailing yacht for its size and price. The Hanse 315 will always hold a special place in my heart. We purchased the yacht in 2018 as a demo boat loaded with all gadgets one could need for coastal cruising + some extras such as auto pilot and on board Wi-Fi. The intention was to sail only in the Swedish archipelago, year round. This we did, and I can tell you, I’ve been at the helm in almost every conceivable weather and crew size.
As a sailing vessel it’s a great cruiser, but a sloppy racer. You won’t set any speed records in this Hanse at least not compared to other and even smaller yachts as the Hanse 315 have a comparably heavy keel which amounts to around 33% of the total weight. Very good for heavy weather but to be honest a sluggish racer.
Regarding the CE classification, this is not something to get hung up on. What made the Hanse get a B rating and not an A is as far as I know a result of European bureaucracy. If I remember correctly the hull itself would have got an ocean rating of A but I think it lacked sufficient ladders for MOB situations as well as a lack of designated storage for life raft. Other than that it’s an exceptionally stable craft especially compared with the French ones and the more sportier options out there such as J-boats and Dehler. You need to remember and will be reminded in light breezes that it has close to the same ratio of keel weight to total weight as many of the quality yachts from the renowned ship yards such as Hallberg Rassy, Najad, Oyster in the same ship size. This makes it an incredibly safe yacht to handle solo in some really bad weather. Although it doesn’t handle waves as good as something with a more traditional hull shape (round) you always feel at ease at the helm. Even in gales, bordering on storm force winds with the right sailplan you should be more than fine solo sailing even as an intermediate when it comes to sailing experience and skill. We also went with the optional light wind sail, a gennaker. This was a fairly good choice although I would have gone with a code 0 in retrospect. As for stability, this is a stable boat, not by the construction mainly but because of its weight. It is although an extremely well balanced hull, which means it holds its course even when tacking. (Excuse my lacking sailing vocabulary..). The traveller is also very welcomed as compared to the German sheeting.
The ability to solo sail is one of the greatest points to owning a Hanse 315, which gives you more time at sea under sail. As we always say: “owning a boat is the most expensive when you ain’t at sea”.
As far as liveability goes its also great for its size. The heads is closer to something you would find on a 40 footer, so is the cockpit and the stern “stateroom”. The water tanks are very over sized even.. you can feel the difference when the yacht is fully filled up with water compared to empty.. Our Hanse housed 160 litres of fresh water but only 40liters in the water heater which is a bit sparse of you ask me (I prefer long showers). The fuel tanks held 100liters, I don’t care to calculate the amount in gallons but I can tell you that it was enough for half a season here. Meaning 1-2 trips a week for maybe three months. Although many shorter day trips all around the year. We sailed from January to December which is very rare here in Scandinavia. There is also further additional storing capacity under the sofas in the saloon if tank storage is of concern.
As I lived on the yacht for three entire summers I have had time to experience many everyday situations in the Hanse. Everything from cooking to navigating company of all kinds. It’s a comparably roomy yacht with many over head windows which are great. They can be opened all’s but the middle one and they also come with sufficient blinds. The side windows though can be covered but with an inadequate cover. Would recommend to change the side window-blinds if you are going on longer live aboard trips. The galley is also fairly small and especially the sink. But if you have done enough meal prep and/or won’t cook extravagant five course dinners it should be sufficient.
You have berths for five people sleeping comfortably and six if you have a guest that is under 165 centimetres tall as one of the saloon sofas is shorter than the other. This is done to make space for the chart table where you can sit in the sofa facing the stern. This is also where you have your main power sockets besides the USB ports in all reading lamps onboard. If you intend to work from the yacht I would recommend that you install more sockets though..
As for general comfort the yacht is great, the cockpit table and shower are small items which makes you feel like you are sailing something nice. The table is made of solid wood and metal which gives a quality feel. The outside shower is both hot and cold. Great for late night swims or just after bathing. One thing that is lacking though is exterior lights, there are none. Maybe as an option but otherwise I would recommend installing. The bathing platform is very aesthetically pleasing, and useful. It fairly heavy though and can feel somewhat whimsical..
I would also strongly recommend finding a yacht with teak deck, at least in the cockpit as plastic can feel a bit hollow and cheap, especially on cruisers that should not feel overly sporty.
As for maintenance, I guess this is a very individual and geographically tied aspect. The amount of time spent compared to money paid to the shipyard. But if you do a lot of things yourself it shouldn’t be a concern with the Hanse 315 as it, after all, is a pocket sized yacht. And with an engine to match. Here I would be extremely adamant that you choose the larger engine option. This yacht needs at least 18hp to move confidently. If possible I would even try to get an even larger engine.
Now to the negatives.. as it is a German built and mass produced yacht it is lacking in interior style (German) and quality (mass produced). You will hear squeaking from the fittings and you will discover cracks in the gellcoat.. this is not a quality build even though it’s better than many others in the same size and price range, I would argue that build quality compared to the French alternatives is much better not to speak of the American and Eastern European boats.. There is off course some positive aspects with mass production such as technology and options trickling down from the larger yachts in the Hanse range. Further on the negative side, we have the standard sails (Dacron), and they are to be completely honest worthless.. and I strongly recommend anyone that purchase a Hanse to either get it with upgraded sail options or get new ones sewn up. Other than this the Hanse 315 is a great pocket sized yacht and as you say champagne for the price of beer! Talking about price.. ours sold for the same price we bought it for in 2018.. that in itself says a lot about the demand for this type of yacht and as well the economy in general as we sold just before the rate hikes this spring/summer. Although I’m not completely up to date with prices and conversion rates I think you should be prepared to pay around 80-90k USD to get one that hasn’t been charter sailed and where all taxes are paid. At least if you are from Europe. I won’t speak for the US market.
To summarise, I truly love the Hanse 315, it’s seaworthiness and ingenious hull design. The great liveability with large tanks for both fuel and fresh water. The fun sailing and great performances in heavy weather. The beautiful design and large cockpit with the twin steering wheels that opens up the horizons, I can’t remember how many times in the last 3 years I’ve sat down in the cockpit and stared out at the sunset with a glass of “beverage” and nice company. And lastly the very well rounded package of a sail yacht that you get with the Hanse 315. I would really recommend anyone to consider this yacht when looking for a new one.
Brilliant post! Thank you! I’m interested in getting the Hanse 348 and your post was very encouraging!
Live and learn: The Hanse (Hanseatic League, Old High German for "crowd" or "retinue") was an interest group for seafaring merchants who together sent their precious cargoes on great, adventurous voyages in search of good business.
Chris, this is a very COMPELLING boat! For me, it would be tough to decide between this and the Jenneau 349. The Hanse has a huge water tank, especially for the size; it holds more water than tanks on much larger vessels. The running costs would be excellent; over time, you'd save a pretty penny there. I like the interior very much. It's not too packed; it's not too open. It's not too luxurious; it's not to spartan. It's not too dark; it's not too light. It's like Goldilocks-just RIGHT! The interior is one of the best I've seen. I like the helm. I like the cockpit. I like the deck layout; it's spacious and uncluttered. For overall layout (both interior and exterior), this boat is one of the best.
What DON'T I like about the Hanse? First is the swim platform; though it almost matches the boat's beam, it's small and high off the water. I couldn't really stretch out and relax on it. It's also just high enough off the water to make dinghy ingress and egress a PITA. The same goes for entering the water or climbing back aboard. As someone who's 60 with knees that have seen their better days, the swim platform would be a near dealbreaker for me. That was the first thing I noticed on the boat-the high and narrow swim platform.
As for Atlantic crossings, why not? Sam Holmes took a Ranger 23 from Long Beach to Hawaii, for cryin' out loud! I would think that an Atlantic crossing, though challenging, would be feasible in the Hanse. One would have to be careful about timing the crossing to avoid the worst weather, but I don't see why the Hanse couldn't do it.
In conclusion, this is a compelling boat. The running costs would be great, especially long term. The overall layout is excellent. The water tank is great, and the fuel tank is all right. The swim platform really lets this boat down for me. If the swim platform were like that of the Jenneau 349, then the Hanse would be a no-brainer. I guess the big question is: how likely are you to do an Atlantic crossing again? Would it be soon? With hundreds of islands in the Caribbean, one could spend a lifetime sailing down there. As I said, this would tie the Jenneau 349. What lets down the Hanse is the puny, elevated swim platform. If not for that, the choice would be easy.
With the same criteria, I just bought a 2007 Hanse 370e. The Hanse epoxy versions are, in my humble opinion, the best ever built, before the quality dropped considerably at all the major manufacturers.
Another advantage is that there is a separate shower with a plexiglass door. 🙂
I spent 7 years and a lot of $ refitting an older bluewater boat, only find that my wife really meant it when she said she wouldn't go offshore with me. So now I'm selling the bluewater boat and I found this Hanse 315 at the Annapolis Boat Show this past October (2023). I was convinced I needed 35 to 37 ft to get what I needed, even for just sailing the great lakes and down the east coast. But the Hanse 315 had everything I wanted, and the smaller package means that it's cheaper in every respect, and easier to operate. I'm not so budget constrained, so as soon as I sell my current boat I think I'll order a new Hanse 315. It also has an electric drive option that I will seriously consider.
I love the hanse 315, also the oceanis 30.1 and even the jeanneau 349, all are fantastic vessels and I'd be happy to own and sail on any of them
great channel, glad you updated the intro. I can only see that shocked girl and 'everyone listen' so many times
Fair enough
I like it and the price is really good. And as you say, buy a boat for what you are going to be doing now, not what you may do in five or ten years.
Love the boat. Good price, deep keel, performance, lower running costs. Size is plenty for 2 livaboard. The wet heads of these newer boats seem to dry out quick, be showering on deck alot. .
Third no no for me is the main traveler on the cockpit floor. You can't fully enclose the cockpit for cold or inclement weather easily. Very nice boat for sure. But you would feel cramped after a year if that. You would grow out of the boat. I think you would end up hating it over time because it will just be too small. I could be wrong though. If it was another 5 to 8 feet long it would be great. I personally just can't see a 31 footer as a live aboard.
If one were available in the layout you most prefered, I would not see it as a huge compromise. I mean, I guess the "line in the sand" would be it has to be the draft and layout that you most want, otherwise, keep looking.
95% of what I want .. and lower price .. hell yes. Buy what works for you now and don't worry about 5 years time .. it will change anyway. Money worries are soul destroying .. if you can minimise that you will be happier. Only questions seem to be will this boat suit you right now and will you be happy living and sailing in it for few years.
I only have a question for you. Would you buy this Hanse 315 or a Benneteau 30.1..
Another great video
I have been watching your vids for a while, and I get your perspective. I don't agree, but I get it. Whether I generally agree with your perspective regarding boats or not, I actually think this is a great boat for you. It is a bang for the buck boat. Pretty, roomy, swim platform, dual helms... You have what I will refer to as a "high disregard" for blue-water boats. You don't think the cost or the design compromises are worth the implied safety. So, why worry about the rating? You can put some extras on it that will basically make it comparable to what is currently rated as CEA that you are also considering. To be clear, this is not a snarky comment. I really think that based on many hours of listening to you describe what you want, that this boat really fits.
Thanks vic, appreciate the thought out response . As I try to always say, get the vessel that works for you
Nice! Wouldn't that size fuel tank be adequate for a 18hp motor?
Id like one as a liveaboard for sailing Adriatic and Northern Mediterranean. Like the idea of island hopping anchoring in quiet bays. Its not just the cost of the boat. I wonder how much it would cost to keep a boat in Croatia and Greece.
Spendy over there depending on where you are located
If you are spending that type of money on a 30 footer, it should include an “a” at the end of the rating. But a fine boat.
Agree
I would not like to see anyone suffer through buyers remorse.
I think it suites most your needs. If the price is right, go for it. How many $$$$ is a separate shower worth to you?
I didn't know they made dual helms in this size boat.
Would you install a symmetrical spinnaker on it? With the fractional jib and the swept back spreaders (they look like they have a pretty good angle to them), it doesn't look like you could get that big main out too far?
Smaller boats have crossed Atlantic 17 feet bilge twin keel and folk have rowed across.
This is true, I am usually referring to comfort, I can live on the street in a tent but would i want to ?
Once I saw the Beneteau 41 I can't do a 31'0. Stand up shower is a must and the beam is really important. The Hans is nice ,economic and a great cockpit. But the Beneteau, Jeaneau or Bavaria 34'0 plus is a must.
Hmmm. If your not crossing, it works. However, no separate shower. I stood in the toilet shower on a 4 master brigantine, previously owned by Onassis. Not my preference. What about family? No visitors? Children? Nay I say.
All the boats under 40 vs hause are small and the worse thing is waste of space. Layout looks great!
Second thing. Going offshore with assumption to switch to the life raft is a bad idea. Still as you said all Caraiben or Mediterranean will be available. I wonder what will be the cost of shipping this baby across the Atlantic after this 5 years. Maybe you can save more money on the running cost :)
Maybe someone knows...
If you had a bigger budget and could go up to 50ft, are there any disadvantages to that? Is it harder to find a harbor space? Maintenance running cost a lot higher? Unable to run it on your own? I'm very new to this.
Looks good!
This was my first dream boat. I loved the torqeedo option instead of the diesel. After seeing some youtubers who charter their Hanse and had it run aground, they discovered the manufacturing process is not as advertised. Things supposed to be tabbed in and laminated are not. I lost a little love for them. Nice looking boats though.
For what it's worth, almost nobody tabs their grids in, these days. It would take too much time, (that is, money).
The boats that are built that way are hideously expensive. (See: Kraken Yachts, for example. )
@@karllewis735 what does "tab their grids" mean? thx
@@SuperJV4x "tab their grids": Almost all current fiberglass boats are built with relatively thin fiberglass skins. In order to strengthen the boats, and specifically to stiffen them so they don't deform under the load of the rig, or riding over waves, a grid of fiberglass box frames running both latitudinally and longitudinally is attached to the hull interior. It would be best, strongest, if that grid structure was attached by applying fiberglass along the joints, "tabbing", but, as that would require a great deal of time and labor, the current practice in "production class" boats is to simply glue the grid in with 3M 5200 or a similar adhesive. And that works mostly well enough, (if properly done), until you put the hull/grid joint under the kind of stresses generated by a grounding incident, where the point loading forces easily exceed the strength of the bonding material, and the grid separates from the hull. (Tabbing would distribute the load over a much wider area and *might* survive the impact. It also might fail... grounding forces are hard to estimate, and can be truly massive. But the point remains, tabbing would almost certainly be stronger than a glue joint.)
You know, as someone who is looking for a coastal cruiser, it would be good for me and the wife. And the price is hard to beat.
However.... Those low costs seem to be only in Europe. Maybe they will make it over here to North America some day.
Please talk about Elan vessels
would love to see a video on 50-60ish foot boats that can be sailed without a crew. thx
Most modern fractional rigged sloops can be
Hi Christopher, I really like your videos, they are very informative. This is not a comment, but I don't know how to send a private message. I subscribed your newsletter, are you still sending the e-book "sailboat buying guide". How can I receive it? Thank you
Yes it was sent out two days ago, if you did not receive it just send me an email at chris@chasinglatitudes.com
I have a question for you if you don't mined giving me your opinion . there is a 2000 beneteau oceanis 46.1 for sale for $149,900 do you think that is over priced . i dont know the condition of it yet going to look at it sunday . it looks like it has been taking care of thats why we have decided to go look at it.
I assume it's a 461 not a 46.1 as the 46.1 was first built in 2017 . A 461 for 149,000 is absurdly over priced . Unless it's just had a complete refit including new electronics, solar, sails, standing rigging, dingy and so on it's not even worth going to look at
@@ChasingLatitudes thats what i thought and yes its a 461 , and sorry the price was 144,900 . Check it out on yacht world its in Annapolis Maryland. What do you think a good price for that boat would be ? And by the way i love your videos watch them all the time .
You can sail this ship for the next 5-10 years, but do you want to buy a new boat after that?
For solo it is allright, I would be happy as hell with it, but bringing a woman to this bost full time, could be….. a challenge :)
Better hope she's your best friend as well as GF!
Is the Hanse 315 enough to sail the mediterranean?
It would not be ideal but yes it could get the job done
I think if you are living on it, then you need to get a separate shower
Yeah, nah for me. Not a fan of Ikea. I like a nice cool dark cave in the heat.
Is there enough room on that boat to continue being a content creator? I could see having a dedicated space for that being somewhat important. I share your dislike of a wetted, but that might be ok.
Hey, when you are going to send the book for subscribed? Thank you
It was sent today if you did not receive it for some reason just shoot me an email and I will send it over , are you signed up for the newsletter ? If so check your spam folder
Who is the woman in that video ?
She is gorgeous ♥
She's a beaut but I'm going to have to say CE-A needs to go on your list. Also, your future girlfriend is going to need more room...
bro..10 knt sea's gonna feel like a mechanical bull on that bass boat
Shred the GNAR BRUH ;)
@@ChasingLatitudes Thats all you, my man. That boat goes in every direction but straight.
Don’t do it! Keep looking for what you really want. Don’t do it!
Yeah not a fan of this one
Nothing to do with the boat as that’s your area of expertise but your short term plans are island hoping, a lot can happen in five years. This boat model seems to tick most of the boxes for you. If you do need a CE A rated vessel you probably can sell this then and with all the money you’ve saved from an overpriced hole in the water buy the boat fit for that purpose. Plus, you have five years of watching and waiting for the inevitable crash.
I like it
Chris buddy , i have not received your book . 🥹