We need to add a Critical Thinking class to the US education system. The class would focus on using the scientific method to test and validate information and evidence.
They use to have that class in one of my local colleges. That was 35+ years ago. I don’t know if any still do. It should be a class in junior high and on that, civics classes should be brought back too. IMO
Man, you SAID it !! For Real !!!! Would that have helped my step-son with his parroting of all the crazy stuff out there? He believes the Clintons killed Jeffrey Epstein and the covid vaccine causes football injuries. I guess some people are beyond help. Sorry to say that but........
But! But! They've "done their research"! We should be grateful to them for digging through the copious amounts of information (that agrees with their confirmation bias) and enlightening us. They are the critical thinkers! (according to them).
Which would mark *the end of career* for, well, pretty much *YOUR ENTIRE ELITE* (tycoons, politicians and what-not), who depend _solely_ upon the public *immense* stupidity for their livelihood, so forget it: it shall NEVER happen under the current socio-eco-political system.
Add critical thinking to all classes all around the world. Separate church from state affairs, the educational system. Put religion in the fiction corner of every library and make spirituality a thing of privacy.
to be fair, people DO sometimes conspire. however its important to have a solid logical and evidentiary framework on which you test your hypotheses and base your conclusions
Your comment seems a hair irrelevant. They didn’t say that there is no such thing as a real conspiracy, or that people don’t conspire. They simply brought up and explained long form the last part of your comment. That you need substantial evidence to prove substantial claims.
It all starts getting ridiculous once chuck says... [spoiler for Chucks joke below] . . . . . . . "Once you go black, you get killed by the royal family!"
Man, I really enjoyed this episode, I’m glad we’re getting more of these sit down casual style of talks nowadays, makes it much easier and more enjoyable to learn new things.
So true idk what it is but all throughout school with the exception of one teacher, and I'm meaning of the core 4 subjects, if im orated at then I tend not to learn but Neil and Chuck just sitting down and just talking and joking about these big brain concepts has taught me so much more about astrophysics, the world and the universe than 18/19 years in school did.
It's so much more approachable this way, rather than the usual - "Look at how smart I am and how much I know. Listen to my esoteric words to prove it. I hope your little plebeian brain can keep up" - type of educational video.
Don't expect perceived wise men to know everything about everything. Only talking about the ridiculous theories and not about the more substantial because it isn't on brand of their fame and should be taken no more seriously than comedic value.
@@susanfrancis5471 Don't watch a Science program with a co host then. Further, don't watch one who's co host is exclusively a comedian, Chuck or otherwise.
@@_Lionsin I think Chuck is having a great balance between jokes and sharing actual thoughts he has on the subjects and voicing them, contributing greatly to the format.
Chuck is such a great little addition to these conversations. He really does explain things well. He has some great points and questions. What an amazing school science teacher he would be
I wish all of our current media talked like Chuck! I am also fascinated by human biases? One more thing programmers have to learn to think through them. Great episode. Getting your book tomorrow.
👽👽👽Yeah I do UFO and alien research and I often use NASA, ESA photos so they cannot be debunked. I found alien artifacts like buildings, bases, 10km ships, statues and so much more. Is it real? Yeah, but will nasa ever admit it no. But I am world famous just search my name. 👽👽👽
@@wolfiemuse Back in the early 80s I spent several days being tested/assessed to see if I had the right kind of logical brain required to be a programmer. Spent the next 20 years programming and in my experience nearly all of the most competent programmers were not neuro typical. I'd go so far as to say that most of them were quite obviously on the autistic spectrum. The industry changed and most "programmers" these days are combining the programming role with what used to be called Systems Analysis. Systems work requires a greater understanding of "people" and so the programmer who lived and breathed the machine was pushed into a smaller and smaller niche. Today's programmers rarely have to code the machine, they get to pick frameworks and select APIs. The really hard stuff has already been coded, by "real" programmers.
I am pretty sure that Chuck will never reach to this comment but I need to say after a few years following ST, that this guy is way smarter than he looks! love his humor and how he articulate questions while bringing up facts.
@@ma1ex It's not what he looks like, but his demeanor. People are perceived to be more intellectual if they're calm, and speak in measured tones. Chuck is more hyperactive and makes a lot of jokes. Of course, that has nothing to do with his intelligence, but it does affect perception.
I understand what they are talking about .... BUT .... Its exceedingly hard to dismiss certain "conspiracies". Some I would just consider to be alternative hypothesis. And if sufficient information is given to support, then they are equally likely to be true. Otherwise we would easily believe all propaganda, all official government narratives, and all historical rewrites, et c.
Careful there, you sound like one of those anti-theists, who claim that their gnostic form of atheism is 'rational'. You fail to realize that you have the same problem as your Christian foes, perhaps displaying inconvenient similarities.
Thanks, Doc... Your conversations are informative, based in common sense and pov's logically argued and light-hearted intellect which makes your show so much fun. Thank you! Nice to see Chuck back, too!
25:00 He says this as if Trump was a Republican, rather than independent until forced to pick a party in order to receive campaign funds. Maybe look into it. The Republicans as a group tried to bar Trump from entry.
When you I first started watching Startalk, I wondered why Neil would choose a comedian for his co-host, rather than a fellow scientist, given the context of the show. However, I must say that Chuck has repeatedly surprised and impressed me with his intellect, as demonstrated by some of his comments, which are often quite deep and truly profound! Of course, it doesn't hurt that he is routinely hilarious, as well! Thank you, gentlemen, for producing a podcast that is as entertaining as it is though-provoking; a balance which I'm sure cannot be easy to maintain!
Yeah, great comedic and profound responses.... like calling those who might be labeled conspiracy theorists, "idiots". It's funny how what some people are so impressed by, others are completely repulsed by. To each, his or her own, I suppose.
This is an amazing episode! Thank you so much for all your insights! This should be required viewing! We desperately need more people to think rationally in this extremely irrational society we live in right now.
One of the best episodes, Chuck is solid a gold statue that sprouted wings and soared above us all like a eagle, whole thing knowledgeable and got a greatly needed laugh 💯🍻✌️
This is the type of Host I want in a show. Knowing your Guest and their works first before starting discussing things. Neil Degrasse opened my mind about many possibilities.
Love Michael Shermers description of true scientific reasoning and how it’s not trying to argue from authority. What a great episode start to finish :)) Definitely worth at least one rewatch.
Thanks for yet another amazing episode. There was some precious information about the causes of getting into conspiracy theories. As Michael mentioned, it is a pretty complex and multifactorial issue. And his take on psychological and political factors was quite brilliant. If I just may, I will add another one which is missing from the list and that is about social reasons. Conspiracy theorists tend to be marginalized and isolated by their friends and family because of their ideas, if they're not already isolated to begin with. The internet changed everything, and not only because it gave people ways to confirm their theories, but also because it allowed them to reach to people who share the same beliefs, find a sense of belonging to a community when others might reject them. So among the costs of changing their minds and their whole belief system, cutting themselves off from their community might very well be the most expensive.
As someone who didn't believe in conspiracies, I can say/ ask: when the facts are there how can you deny it?! 1+1 will always = 2. Who would want to believe the people we choose to trust conspire against the people?! The question isn't did "they", the question is why would "they"?! Not every conspiracy is true but not every conspiracy is false. th-cam.com/video/4z79ZoOrmKw/w-d-xo.html Love Star Talk by the way!!! Thanks for you guys being you🙏
I think the confusion between correlation and causation also has a lot to do with it. For example, the people who think 5G towers cause covid will point to maps showing that the earliest covid outbreaks were in areas with the greatest number of 5G towers, which is true. But the 5G didn't cause the outbreak. Instead, it was because those are also the areas with the highest population density; therefore it is natural that the towers would be built there in greater numbers, and also that disease spreads faster there. John Oliver did a great video a while back where he pointed out that there's also a correlation between covid outbreaks and number of Domino's Pizza locations-- because there are also more pizza restaurants where there are more people.
Heh. I had an emergency appendectomy after eating Domino's once. For a long time I believed that their pizza caused it. Stopped believing due to insufficient evidence. How hard is that for some folk to do,unless it's part of their identity and lifestyle?
The NIH published a study that confirmed that 5G microwave radiation disrupts the negative charge that naturally occurs between red blood cells to prevent them from clotting unnecessarily .
I think people love conspiracies because they are usually more interesting than the real explanation, add on top that it might side with their perspective or views of the world.
You can add to that people needs to be special, to see and understand people that the "sheep" won't, be smarter than anyone else, not all people have that need, but some those
But in many cases it is not more interesting. Like how is aliens magically building the pyramids more interesting than ancient humans building them with primitive tools? It is just a fantasy, nobody knows which aliens; how they did it, why they did it. But with humans you can find all kinds of information, like their tools, their society, the religion, etc. any why will lead you down a lifetime of information. With conspiracies every why leads to “well why not?” and that is the end of it.
@Simulation L no, it’s because of another cognitive bias. I can’t remember the name of it, but basically it says that if you argue against someone and give them 100 reasons why they’re wrong, they will tend to push back and dig their heels in even harder. It’s much better to give 2-3 thoughtful, well-crafted, and respectful reasons why they should question their belief; not reasons why they’re wrong.
I watched Citizen Kane a year before the 2020 election. The prescience of Orson Welles is utterly alien. 80 years ahead of his time, EASILY. Man was 25 when he made Citizen Kane
Kane was just a great story for the very reason that it was about a reoccurring human problem. That seems ahead of its time when the problem comes back around, as it will, but is actually just acknowledging the very old and tiresome aspects of society. I do note that Hearst's Castle continues to rake in some cash from tourists who come away impressed with him. So it goes.
I live in northern Ontario Canada Off Grid in the middle of forest for the last two years. I’m going back to live in society again shortly. And knowing the people im going to have to deal with because I’m a caring, loving person and try to be understanding and a teacher as well. You have help me expanding my techniques for compassion and understanding with hopes of changing minds with facts
The Jesus vs. Darwin debate seems to me a very U.S. one. My father is a devout christian, but he would never claim Charles Darwin was nonsense. In fact, he is very much into phylogenesis, and when I was young, he was often explaining to me which birds are more closely related to each other than to other birds, or that the rock hyrax belongs into the same group as the elephants, and not to the hares.
Dang, I was super invested in this episode. I've never thought too much about conspiracies and why people have them outside of the idea that it went against what you wanted. This really opened my mind to the subject!
👽👽👽Conspiracies are real, think about all the things the gov has to do to protect us, watch over the country and keep it powerful, such details would blow your mind if you knew of such above top secret things. 👽👽👽
Yes. I love your explanations and insights of why people believe in conspiracy theories. Well done. I've always said that those who believe in conspiracy theories don't think critically and aren't showing the intelligence I'm sure they have. I left politics a long time ago because everwhere you look, there is some kind of ridiculous conspiracy theory. If you're going to be in politics or be a politician, you can at least think rationally and objectively about things instead of through the lens of biases, religion, and feelings. Those only cause problems as we have seen. It's human nature to want to find someone or something to blame for problems but it doesn't make it logical.
The dismissive way Neil deGrasse Tyson has acted towards both recent revelations regarding unidentified (cross-domain) anomalous phenomena and recent advances in artificial intelligence and his speaking on both issues with both ignorance and unearned authority have diminished my respect for him, even though I still think he is among the best science communicators we have today. I just wish he would educate himself better on these topics and approach them with more humility.
Tyson's one-time (or current) employer, National Geographic Partners, recently released a series about unidentified anomalous phenomena that is as compelling as the related article from "The New York Times," the "60 Minutes" story, and the other inquiries into this topic that many prestigious institutions are now providing and that the U.S. Congress has been pursuing, as of late. Tyson, meanwhile, has gone out of his way to appear on several programs and, in so doing, to seemingly try to perpetuate the stigma around this issue that prevents more data from being collected. Thankfully, researchers at Harvard University and Stanford University, among others, are now treating these questions with the seriousness they deserve.
Just for clarification, do you mean censored (withheld from the public top secret ) experiments ? Or redacted from all other researchers completely. If the latter then yes of course you can’t reconstruct an experiment without all the premises being proven. That would be like trying to make a special dish without knowing the defining ingredients .
@@derp8575 Which narrative are you referring to.? Who is “ they”? What proposal did you use to apply for a grant to research it? Are you a pathologist?
@@analogalien651 Where's "they" in my comment? No, I am not a pathologist. However there are pathologists speaking out. Will you listen to their claims? Of course not. You and your ilk only listen to mainstream narratives.
Can't be out of time! Great show I wish it could go on for another hour, already followed Michael on Twitter and excited for the next episode that comes across my feed ✌️🕊️🙌
27:00 re: Chuck's point about trusting the system when his candidate won. We've had almost two decades of documented cheating by the New England Patriots, yet they not only get to participate in the playoffs, they're allowed to make it to the Superbowl. Getting caught cheating _should_ be an automatic DQ and ineligibility for the playoffs, regardless of season record. A second offense for a team should equal elimination from the schedule for the rest of the season, and the remaining teams getting rescheduled against each other. Third offense, eliminate the team from the league. Plus, every step of the way, punish the responsible parties, plus the executives. But I digress... People have had decades of ignoring malfeasance and still rooting for _their_ team. It's no surprise when those same people fall under the sway of a demagogue's cult of personality.
If 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy how do explain the 3rd bldg.that came down 8hrs. later & all the engineers that have a problem with the way that the national inst.standard & tech. tryed to explain cause & the presence of thermite?
Belief in conspiracy theories often stems from psychological needs for control, certainty, and coherence in a complex world. These theories can provide simple explanations for complex events and satisfy a desire for insider knowledge. When it comes to aliens and extraterrestrial beings, such beliefs can be fueled by curiosity about the unknown, fears of a hidden agenda, or the allure of secret knowledge. How might these factors influence our understanding of the universe and our place within it if new evidence about extraterrestrial life were to emerge?
Like we're going to remember what we're taught 20 years ago, in 2nd or 3rd grade.. Why we have seasons.. We aren't taught how to survive, the only thing that matters; and that's even if you got a Ph. D.. And the more we loose, the more secure the rich and powerful are at the top..
I watched two buildings come down at free fall speed in their own footprint and then they fenced off the wreckage and didn't let inspectors in. I was told an airplane hit the pentagon and left a twelve foot hole, but there was no fire and no airplane wreckage or bodies and luggage. The plane in PA that crashed because the men took on the hijackers. One was talking to his wife on a cell phone which wasn't possible till 2004. You can not convince me that wasn't a controlled demolition. I saw something that was physically impossible. The weakened steel was in the upper stories. Everything under that wasn't weakened and would not have come down like that. The neocons needed a Pearl Harbor moment and 911 was it. Israel wired them.
Thank you so much for this excellent discussion. I, along with so many others are thankful for such intelligent thinking. I will share this with as many as possible.
Intriguing, I always knew there was more to life and i have also been looking for a way to find not only protection but a way to be influential to the human society, wish to do more and give more than i am doing now, always feel like i was born for something greater. .
oh well you can achieve that by being a part of the illuminatus brotherhood, i know it sounds like a mystery but there are ways you can actually get in contact with them
@@haynesatteh4463 Well it is not and you can't actually expect it to be open to everyone, but if you want to know more you can look up ANTHONY MARK SZYMON online you will find something interesting.
Chuck hit the nail on the head. Sometimes if you hear these conspiracies and try to forget some of the facts you already know. The conspiracies make sense. But then you realize you know the facts and realize how some people could indeed fall for some of these conspiracies
Yes, like the FBI pushing a Russia collusion hoax for 2 years, or interfering in elections via Twitter and censorship, or calling Hunter's laptop Russian b.s. The way DemonRATs dismiss proven facts is 🤣😂😆😂😆
Hi Gentlemen. I do enjoy listening to to your facts and show. I do wish your guest would look into a case of a lady that worked at Tennessee driver license office in Memphis. That had issued drivers license to some of the 911 hijacker’s. She was arrested after the month of 911. Sorry I don’t have dates. It’s been awhile since. But anyway my only concern is I am a Truck driver of many years and I was on my way back to Memphis on Hwy 78 20 miles from Memphis Tn. At around 1 am at the time it was only a two lane road so all traffic was stopped. Well I found that the lady that was arrested was released from Jail at midnight was the lady in a car that had just burned up on a car. Someone wanted her dead for some reason. But anyway thanks for listening this really did happen. Love the show👍
Initially, I saw the phrase “conspiracy theories” in the title and was disappointed. The vast majority of the crazy beliefs and fabrications of the conspiracy mongers do not qualify as a “theory”. Further discussion of what constitutes a valid theory would have been helpful, as the issue was not confronted directly.
Unfortunately the people who need to listen to this will be the people who try and avoid this type of video like their conspiracy filled life depended on it...
@@dissidentexpression8692 Conspiracies are just not revealed by internet sleuths arriving at preconceived conclusions. Revelation always comes from within..... Declassified documents, whistle blowers, accident or carelessness, or breakdown between the conspirators.
Hilarious how they start with "half are below..." basically joking 50% of the human population is dumb and I bet everyone watching this is laughing and saying haha yeah I'm part of the "other" 50% not considering they are, in fact, one of the dumb ones 🤣🤣 loved this vod, super entertaining and interesting
A recent mind blower for me is that intelligence in the human race is not an even bell curve, It is a RIGHT WEIGHTED bell curve, meaning most humans are in fact, dumb. So if this were a lottery, you'd win money betting that you (we) were the dumb one.
Yeah, the correct way to discover the rule at 33:31 is to also go into descending numbers. 9, 8, 7. I actually saw the Veratasity channel do a video on this, and one guy out of maybe half a dozen actually figured it out.
generally 'skeptics' are just annoying it seems lately, i grew up thinking i was a skeptic, but they seem to prefer their doubt bias over just learning new information. where as i just never assume anything as fact, and am always curious about new information
My first time watching this show. It was the longest 56 minutes of my life. Nothing worse than grown men giggling for a whole hour while trying to sound serious.
the only thing more dangerous than believing all conspiracy theories, are believing theyre all false. neil, you are so smart in your field but as a scientist surely you should have the attitude of doing research on a subject before speaking on it! something you clearly have not done here!
There's a marked difference between conspiracy theory and conspiracy. We used to accept conspiracy theory for what it was, a hypothetical possibility. Now it is immediately embraced as fact by people armed with social media and a paranoid suspicion of all things "establishment". The Sandy Hook massacre was not fake just because some people don't like the government.
@@moggpiano8043 thats because the ""establishment" has misused the term and put all conspiracies under the conspiracy theory tag in order to discredit the actual credible ones. this video proves that. they have placed all these things under the conspiracy theory tag when there are legitimate reasons for people questioning the official stories of these things, IE the third building that collapsed miraculously on 9/11, the magic bullet regards to jfk and being british the princess Dianna one, which if you look into the inquest into her death opposed to what the media put out as the cause are totally different. if theyre going to have a discusion about these things they cant just pick and choose what to mention that suits and ignore the main reasons people disbelieve
Let’s leave the word “conspiracy” out of the subject since it’s become an almost insulting term. Let’s also avoid laughing and being hateful to one another and just have a civilized conversation with mutual respect. If I design a product, then I also test my product, and my product is also exclusive and no one else can test it or have private studies on it and then I assure you it’s safe and I can “prove” it because “I” tested it..would you just take my word for it?
I’m a little worried at everyone’s ease at joking about the “others” who are conspiracy obsessed. Everyone here believes something that is completely false/conspiratorial, but because of your own biases you will argue that what you believe is truth.
It’s crazy: I started to watch this video, took a break to hang out with one of my best friends, and randomly brought up the fact that he doesn’t believe we landed on the moon. I didn’t mention that I began watching this video. There were other friends with us who he was trying to convince and I was just amazed at the absurdity of the claim! What timing too. It’s kind of scary to think about how perfectly logical people, in almost all other matters, can believe in things so crazy. The scary part is not the fact he believes the moon landing was fake, but if he believes that, then what’s stopping him from believing other things that are dangerous?
The problem is that people DO NOT see the patterns and the symbols and the connections. Most people are oblivious to it all and just go to work , have kids, and pay, pay , pay til they’re sick and dead. Then they have to pay to be buried into the ground!!
This would be a lot more enjoyable if they’d actually let their guests finish their thoughts and answering questions, instead of constantly interrupting them.
It happens. Bias can form on people who decide all conspiracy theories are false, they won’t look into information because they assume it’s false just because the last conspiracy was false.
What if you’re a promoter of a conspiracy that you falsely think is based on a fact and are here to increase doubt to the opposition? What ifs can get you to a lot of conclusions, but that doesn’t mean it’s correct.
I dont "Want to believe" in some of the Conspiracy theories. When the facts about certain "Conspiracy theories" pile up, which challenge your own world view, you have to reconsider our reality? Are Architects and Engineers and Pilots for 9 11 truth "delusional"?
Zero legitimacy - for shame!!! Red herring much? This guy did not mention the third building that imploded Seriously disappointing - I’m a BIG star talk fan and you bro this trash apologist “expert” Whatever you seriously don’t have an opinion do you? Good science but riddled with false stories Love you Neil
They're too playful in this but I don't mind the brief "intermissions" because sometimes these small interactions sets it apart from those boring political discussions.
Great epesode guys.The government has not done us any favors by conducting secret experiments on the populous. Taking that a step further, not sure the CIA is doing more harm than good. On schooling., one class most of us were required to take was Geometry. Not sure the last time I had to know what theory talked about opposite interior angles. What would have served me more in my later life would have been a course covering logical fallacies and how to recognize them.
"a course covering logical fallacies and how to recognize them." 7:30 to 8:30 are nice strawman and red herring arguments. Logical fallacies don't however make a logical argument. Workers removing debris from ground zero reported pools of molten metal, there is video of molten metal pouring out of a damaged support beam, and temperature measurements by satellites of ground zero showed temperatures beyond the maximum open air temperatures of hydrocarbon fires. Saying that steal can deform at lower temperatures doesn't address the molten metal, and is thus a red herring. In terms of the official story the fireball didn't heat the support beams much, as evidenced by people leaning on them in pictures. if they were hot enough to deform from the fire ball then they would be too hot to lean on. There was active thermitic material discovered in dust samples from WTC, and iron spheroids, again showing molten steel. Those arguing the official conspiracy don't present evidence. Lets see the evidence for this fictional al Qaeda(base in Arabic). This is "the base" as officially explained. th-cam.com/video/FGhGHxw0mSo/w-d-xo.html The official story is up there with the UFO crazies. You can't argue logically as you have no logical position. There were plenty of leaks, and plenty of people explained things between the lines. We could talk about the 1993 FBI bombing of the WTC. There is evidence.
@@abram730 what you have is a bunch of “they said” and “people found” arguments. You need sources from reputable, scientific backgrounded sources to prove a claim like that.
@@wolfiemuse What your side has is logical fallacies, and the complete absence of evidence. You don't even consider NASA imaging, a reputable, scientific source? Don't believe our lying eyes, rather we should just accept the claims of pathological liars without question? What proof has been given that undetectable people, living under the ground, attacked us on 911? Let's see your evidence for the existence of al Qaeda, "the base". th-cam.com/video/FGhGHxw0mSo/w-d-xo.html
@@abram730 I’m not having this argument with you. There are hundreds of experts who have done their own independent research that show it is implausible to have been intentionally planned. I will happily defer to them, as should you. You were not a scientist who studied the aftereffects, you’re not a scientist at all. In massive cases such as these, one of my favorite quotes applies here: “It is the height of arrogance to believe that I know better than those who have spent their lives studying this.” I think that is something that you should remember.
We need to add a Critical Thinking class to the US education system. The class would focus on using the scientific method to test and validate information and evidence.
They use to have that class in one of my local colleges. That was 35+ years ago. I don’t know if any still do. It should be a class in junior high and on that, civics classes should be brought back too. IMO
Man, you SAID it !! For Real !!!!
Would that have helped my step-son with his parroting of all the crazy stuff out there? He believes the Clintons killed Jeffrey Epstein and the covid vaccine causes football injuries. I guess some people are beyond help. Sorry to say that but........
But! But! They've "done their research"! We should be grateful to them for digging through the copious amounts of information (that agrees with their confirmation bias) and enlightening us. They are the critical thinkers! (according to them).
Which would mark *the end of career* for, well, pretty much *YOUR ENTIRE ELITE* (tycoons, politicians and what-not), who depend _solely_ upon the public *immense* stupidity for their livelihood, so forget it: it shall NEVER happen under the current socio-eco-political system.
Add critical thinking to all classes all around the world. Separate church from state affairs, the educational system. Put religion in the fiction corner of every library and make spirituality a thing of privacy.
to be fair, people DO sometimes conspire.
however its important to have a solid logical and evidentiary framework on which you test your hypotheses and base your conclusions
oh ok. They only explained this in the video, but go ahead and write the comment too.
Nope. Everyone is good and were all fine.
@@chadd990 lol came to say the same thing.
So true, but a hypothesis is merely an educated guess. So...even a child can have one on familiar subject to them.
Your comment seems a hair irrelevant. They didn’t say that there is no such thing as a real conspiracy, or that people don’t conspire. They simply brought up and explained long form the last part of your comment. That you need substantial evidence to prove substantial claims.
1 part Learning, 1 part Laughing bonded with passion and love is StarTalk.
Great show….well put together….agree with You…..
It all starts getting ridiculous once chuck says...
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"Once you go black, you get killed by the royal family!"
@@xEvilRaptorx using the race card for a cheap joke. Telltale sign of a weak comedian
Check out my conspiracy theories like the universe is sand and water
@@TimeSpaceU Wrong! Space is the lava inside the lamp.
Man, I really enjoyed this episode, I’m glad we’re getting more of these sit down casual style of talks nowadays, makes it much easier and more enjoyable to learn new things.
Check out my conspiracy and theories like the universe is sand and water
So true idk what it is but all throughout school with the exception of one teacher, and I'm meaning of the core 4 subjects, if im orated at then I tend not to learn but Neil and Chuck just sitting down and just talking and joking about these big brain concepts has taught me so much more about astrophysics, the world and the universe than 18/19 years in school did.
It's so much more approachable this way, rather than the usual - "Look at how smart I am and how much I know. Listen to my esoteric words to prove it. I hope your little plebeian brain can keep up" - type of educational video.
Don't expect perceived wise men to know everything about everything. Only talking about the ridiculous theories and not about the more substantial because it isn't on brand of their fame and should be taken no more seriously than comedic value.
These three actors are being so rude and come off as ignorant..not a good way to convince someone
Chucks ability to be comedic in the moment never ceases to amaze me.
I’m Not watching this to get
Chuck’s opinion.
He is an interruption imo
@@susanfrancis5471 Don't watch a Science program with a co host then. Further, don't watch one who's co host is exclusively a comedian, Chuck or otherwise.
@@_Lionsin I think Chuck is having a great balance between jokes and sharing actual thoughts he has on the subjects and voicing them, contributing greatly to the format.
@@susanfrancis5471 Guy is an unfunny hack and yes he just interrupts the topic.
He's great at getting in quickly in small windows
Which Conspiracy Theories Do You Believe?
UFO's are advanced aquatic aliens that have evolved over millions of years whilst being protected from all extinction level events in earths history
Dare I say it, Covid and elections.
An asteroid is on a collision course and nasa and the government knows about it.
@@Riclmnopp i agree
9/11 I think was an inside job
Chuck is such a great little addition to these conversations. He really does explain things well. He has some great points and questions. What an amazing school science teacher he would be
Little addition? Or addition?
"Conspiracies? You're a DIMBASS!" LOL!
The point about Elm Street was good.
People put extra significance on decisions and things in hind site.
And he's very intelligent in his own right. He plays the fool but he's a very smart guy.
he looks a bit orange in this video, he been eating with DT?!
I wish all of our current media talked like Chuck!
I am also fascinated by human biases?
One more thing programmers have to learn to think through them.
Great episode.
Getting your book tomorrow.
Real programmers just don't have them. Of course programmers these days aren't selected for that trait anymore, so maybe you're right.
👽👽👽Yeah I do UFO and alien research and I often use NASA, ESA photos so they cannot be debunked. I found alien artifacts like buildings, bases, 10km ships, statues and so much more. Is it real? Yeah, but will nasa ever admit it no. But I am world famous just search my name. 👽👽👽
@@radman8321 it’s ignorant to say that “real programmers” don’t have human cognitive bias…
@@wolfiemuse Back in the early 80s I spent several days being tested/assessed to see if I had the right kind of logical brain required to be a programmer. Spent the next 20 years programming and in my experience nearly all of the most competent programmers were not neuro typical. I'd go so far as to say that most of them were quite obviously on the autistic spectrum.
The industry changed and most "programmers" these days are combining the programming role with what used to be called Systems Analysis. Systems work requires a greater understanding of "people" and so the programmer who lived and breathed the machine was pushed into a smaller and smaller niche. Today's programmers rarely have to code the machine, they get to pick frameworks and select APIs. The really hard stuff has already been coded, by "real" programmers.
@@radman8321 None of that has anything to do with cognitive bias. Everyone is susceptible to them.
I am pretty sure that Chuck will never reach to this comment but I need to say after a few years following ST, that this guy is way smarter than he looks! love his humor and how he articulate questions while bringing up facts.
I agree. He is likely very smart. Otherwise we would find himself out of place with the kind of guests that come on the show.
What does he look like?
@@ma1ex It's not what he looks like, but his demeanor. People are perceived to be more intellectual if they're calm, and speak in measured tones. Chuck is more hyperactive and makes a lot of jokes. Of course, that has nothing to do with his intelligence, but it does affect perception.
I hope he never reaches this comment. What about him doesnt look smart? and how can you gauge intelligence on looks? and what does smart look like?
Back handed compliment if I ever read one.
I understand what they are talking about .... BUT .... Its exceedingly hard to dismiss certain "conspiracies".
Some I would just consider to be alternative hypothesis. And if sufficient information is given to support, then they are equally likely to be true.
Otherwise we would easily believe all propaganda, all official government narratives, and all historical rewrites, et c.
If you can believe in an invisible sky daddy, then your brain is simple/indoctrinated and it can be led to believe anything else.
Like that one lady who thinks she can scare away hurricanes with a stick
More like religioun and the way it taught!
@@DayonBledsoe2000Jesus is watching your blaspheming
Careful there, you sound like one of those anti-theists, who claim that their gnostic form of atheism is 'rational'. You fail to realize that you have the same problem as your Christian foes, perhaps displaying inconvenient similarities.
@@denny414Are you being ironic right now or did you not comprehend the discussion they were having?
Thanks, Doc... Your conversations are informative, based in common sense and pov's logically argued and light-hearted intellect which makes your show so much fun. Thank you! Nice to see Chuck back, too!
Check out my conspiracy and there is like the universe is sand and water
One of the best episodes. Anytime Michael Shermer comes on, its always has been a must listen.
25:00 He says this as if Trump was a Republican, rather than independent until forced to pick a party in order to receive campaign funds. Maybe look into it. The Republicans as a group tried to bar Trump from entry.
When you I first started watching Startalk, I wondered why Neil would choose a comedian for his co-host, rather than a fellow scientist, given the context of the show. However, I must say that Chuck has repeatedly surprised and impressed me with his intellect, as demonstrated by some of his comments, which are often quite deep and truly profound! Of course, it doesn't hurt that he is routinely hilarious, as well! Thank you, gentlemen, for producing a podcast that is as entertaining as it is though-provoking; a balance which I'm sure cannot be easy to maintain!
Yeah, great comedic and profound responses.... like calling those who might be labeled conspiracy theorists, "idiots". It's funny how what some people are so impressed by, others are completely repulsed by. To each, his or her own, I suppose.
I totally agree..Chuck is the ying to it's yang..
Comedy is remedy and science is educational.. together, they keep me intrigued
The Pine Street vs Elm Street part made me think of Bugs Bunny.
"I knew I should have taken that left at Alba-koiky."
I thought of a guy in a striped sweater wearing a fedora. . .
This is an amazing episode! Thank you so much for all your insights! This should be required viewing! We desperately need more people to think rationally in this extremely irrational society we live in right now.
An amazing episode of portraying great ignorance and stupidity. I agree.
One of the best episodes, Chuck is solid a gold statue that sprouted wings and soared above us all like a eagle, whole thing knowledgeable and got a greatly needed laugh 💯🍻✌️
is that you Chuck lmao
I agree 100% just a cool episode. 💫💥💫
You guys are the best 😂❤🎉
This is the type of Host I want in a show. Knowing your Guest and their works first before starting discussing things. Neil Degrasse opened my mind about many possibilities.
We can progress as humans so much if first we understood each other first and where we come from
Thank you guys! I feel very flattered to be teased buy you guys! It made my day!
Min 29:35.
Lol did you mean flattered? Btw I'm attempting to say your name like Chuck too.
Hi Cicero!
Hi Cicero, you have a beautiful name😘
Flattened? 🤣
Great to hear that you're such a good sport about it! But could you change your comment back to "flattened"'? That was EPIC!
Love Michael Shermers description of true scientific reasoning and how it’s not trying to argue from authority.
What a great episode start to finish :))
Definitely worth at least one rewatch.
You gotta love this left to Right one of the worlds leading physicist a great comedian and and a full time sceptic what more do want
The Internet took over where the grocery store tabloids left off a few years ago.... eg: the Nation Enquirer which my father read religiously
My favorite tabloid was “Weekly World News”! lol
The "hot sheets" from men in black.....
Thanks for yet another amazing episode.
There was some precious information about the causes of getting into conspiracy theories.
As Michael mentioned, it is a pretty complex and multifactorial issue.
And his take on psychological and political factors was quite brilliant.
If I just may, I will add another one which is missing from the list and that is about social reasons.
Conspiracy theorists tend to be marginalized and isolated by their friends and family because of their ideas, if they're not already isolated to begin with.
The internet changed everything, and not only because it gave people ways to confirm their theories, but also because it allowed them to reach to people who share the same beliefs, find a sense of belonging to a community when others might reject them.
So among the costs of changing their minds and their whole belief system, cutting themselves off from their community might very well be the most expensive.
As someone who didn't believe in conspiracies, I can say/ ask: when the facts are there how can you deny it?!
1+1 will always = 2.
Who would want to believe the people we choose to trust conspire against the people?!
The question isn't did "they", the question is why would "they"?! Not every conspiracy is true but not every conspiracy is false.
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Love Star Talk by the way!!! Thanks for you guys being you🙏
I think the confusion between correlation and causation also has a lot to do with it. For example, the people who think 5G towers cause covid will point to maps showing that the earliest covid outbreaks were in areas with the greatest number of 5G towers, which is true. But the 5G didn't cause the outbreak. Instead, it was because those are also the areas with the highest population density; therefore it is natural that the towers would be built there in greater numbers, and also that disease spreads faster there. John Oliver did a great video a while back where he pointed out that there's also a correlation between covid outbreaks and number of Domino's Pizza locations-- because there are also more pizza restaurants where there are more people.
Heh. I had an emergency appendectomy after eating Domino's once. For a long time I believed that their pizza caused it. Stopped believing due to insufficient evidence. How hard is that for some folk to do,unless it's part of their identity and lifestyle?
The NIH published a study that confirmed that 5G microwave radiation disrupts the negative charge that naturally occurs between red blood cells to prevent them from clotting unnecessarily .
I'm with Chuck, this one was really good!
Chuck summed it up perfectly in the first minute.
There's something very wrong with this country and our leaders keep making terrible descisions that make it even worse
Chuck's clapbacks are on point!
I think people love conspiracies because they are usually more interesting than the real explanation, add on top that it might side with their perspective or views of the world.
My brother in law pointed out to me that the most boring answer is usually the right one.
You can add to that people needs to be special, to see and understand people that the "sheep" won't, be smarter than anyone else, not all people have that need, but some those
But in many cases it is not more interesting. Like how is aliens magically building the pyramids more interesting than ancient humans building them with primitive tools? It is just a fantasy, nobody knows which aliens; how they did it, why they did it. But with humans you can find all kinds of information, like their tools, their society, the religion, etc. any why will lead you down a lifetime of information. With conspiracies every why leads to “well why not?” and that is the end of it.
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@Simulation L no, it’s because of another cognitive bias. I can’t remember the name of it, but basically it says that if you argue against someone and give them 100 reasons why they’re wrong, they will tend to push back and dig their heels in even harder. It’s much better to give 2-3 thoughtful, well-crafted, and respectful reasons why they should question their belief; not reasons why they’re wrong.
Intelligence should be graded on the "bell" curve because many people lost their clappers and are simply "dumb" bells - LOL
I watched Citizen Kane a year before the 2020 election. The prescience of Orson Welles is utterly alien. 80 years ahead of his time, EASILY. Man was 25 when he made Citizen Kane
Kane was just a great story for the very reason that it was about a reoccurring human problem. That seems ahead of its time when the problem comes back around, as it will, but is actually just acknowledging the very old and tiresome aspects of society. I do note that Hearst's Castle continues to rake in some cash from tourists who come away impressed with him. So it goes.
I live in northern Ontario Canada Off Grid in the middle of forest for the last two years. I’m going back to live in society again shortly. And knowing the people im going to have to deal with because I’m a caring, loving person and try to be understanding and a teacher as well. You have help me expanding my techniques for compassion and understanding with hopes of changing minds with facts
The Jesus vs. Darwin debate seems to me a very U.S. one. My father is a devout christian, but he would never claim Charles Darwin was nonsense. In fact, he is very much into phylogenesis, and when I was young, he was often explaining to me which birds are more closely related to each other than to other birds, or that the rock hyrax belongs into the same group as the elephants, and not to the hares.
Happy to see Chuck great episode 👍🏽
Dang, I was super invested in this episode. I've never thought too much about conspiracies and why people have them outside of the idea that it went against what you wanted. This really opened my mind to the subject!
Yeah it's ALWAYS a "Lone Nut" aint it ?
Cuz there's NO way it could be anything else...
Nothin' to see here folks, Nothin' to see ^_^
Lol the worst thing that ever happened was slavery but go off😂
It’s not that we believe in conspiracy theories, it’s that conspiracy theories believe in us.
I love how he casually mentions MK Ultra and UFO's as being real...but forgets they were considered conspiracy theories .
👽👽👽Conspiracies are real, think about all the things the gov has to do to protect us, watch over the country and keep it powerful, such details would blow your mind if you knew of such above top secret things. 👽👽👽
Fun side note: not all atheists are skeptics, 20% believe in some form of supernatural phenomenon (pew research poll).
19:45 I do the dice thing. And it works! How is that for counting the hits and not the misses?
Yes. I love your explanations and insights of why people believe in conspiracy theories. Well done.
I've always said that those who believe in conspiracy theories don't think critically and aren't showing the intelligence I'm sure they have. I left politics a long time ago because everwhere you look, there is some kind of ridiculous conspiracy theory. If you're going to be in politics or be a politician, you can at least think rationally and objectively about things instead of through the lens of biases, religion, and feelings. Those only cause problems as we have seen.
It's human nature to want to find someone or something to blame for problems but it doesn't make it logical.
The dismissive way Neil deGrasse Tyson has acted towards both recent revelations regarding unidentified (cross-domain) anomalous phenomena and recent advances in artificial intelligence and his speaking on both issues with both ignorance and unearned authority have diminished my respect for him, even though I still think he is among the best science communicators we have today. I just wish he would educate himself better on these topics and approach them with more humility.
Tyson's one-time (or current) employer, National Geographic Partners, recently released a series about unidentified anomalous phenomena that is as compelling as the related article from "The New York Times," the "60 Minutes" story, and the other inquiries into this topic that many prestigious institutions are now providing and that the U.S. Congress has been pursuing, as of late.
Tyson, meanwhile, has gone out of his way to appear on several programs and, in so doing, to seemingly try to perpetuate the stigma around this issue that prevents more data from being collected.
Thankfully, researchers at Harvard University and Stanford University, among others, are now treating these questions with the seriousness they deserve.
This was a great episode like many others. Always educative.
1:00 minute in, and that's all we need to hear. Tell em' Chuck!
As an actual blacksmith I can confirm that steel starts to soften before it's even glowing, at 800°F it starts to glow.
Isn’t that what peer reviewed research is for? To try to poke holes in someone’s thesis and data?
Love you guys!!
Peer review is worthless if censorship exists.
Just for clarification, do you mean censored (withheld from the public top secret ) experiments ?
Or redacted from all other researchers completely.
If the latter then yes of course you can’t reconstruct an experiment without all the premises being proven.
That would be like trying to make a special dish without knowing the defining ingredients .
@@analogalien651 Both. Good luck getting money to perform research that bucks the narrative. Covid made that very clear.
@@derp8575 Which narrative are you referring to.? Who is “ they”?
What proposal did you use to apply for a grant to research it? Are you a pathologist?
@@analogalien651 Where's "they" in my comment?
No, I am not a pathologist. However there are pathologists speaking out. Will you listen to their claims? Of course not. You and your ilk only listen to mainstream narratives.
Can't be out of time! Great show I wish it could go on for another hour, already followed Michael on Twitter and excited for the next episode that comes across my feed ✌️🕊️🙌
So inspiring and mind opening, we want an encore please!!! Thank You to you 3!
What a great episode! Keep them coming!
27:00 re: Chuck's point about trusting the system when his candidate won.
We've had almost two decades of documented cheating by the New England Patriots, yet they not only get to participate in the playoffs, they're allowed to make it to the Superbowl.
Getting caught cheating _should_ be an automatic DQ and ineligibility for the playoffs, regardless of season record.
A second offense for a team should equal elimination from the schedule for the rest of the season, and the remaining teams getting rescheduled against each other.
Third offense, eliminate the team from the league.
Plus, every step of the way, punish the responsible parties, plus the executives.
But I digress...
People have had decades of ignoring malfeasance and still rooting for _their_ team.
It's no surprise when those same people fall under the sway of a demagogue's cult of personality.
If 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy how do explain the 3rd bldg.that came down 8hrs. later & all the engineers that have a problem with the way that the national inst.standard & tech. tryed to explain cause & the presence of thermite?
(Yep, and see my just added comment)
Absolutely brilliant show!
It is, and it makes me wonder why people call me a conspiracy theorist? 🤔
What's the difference between conspiracy theories and the truth?
About 6 months.
Great session as always! 🎉
Belief in conspiracy theories often stems from psychological needs for control, certainty, and coherence in a complex world. These theories can provide simple explanations for complex events and satisfy a desire for insider knowledge. When it comes to aliens and extraterrestrial beings, such beliefs can be fueled by curiosity about the unknown, fears of a hidden agenda, or the allure of secret knowledge. How might these factors influence our understanding of the universe and our place within it if new evidence about extraterrestrial life were to emerge?
These episodes are great but ffs we need audio balancing.
Great episode. I feel like we need more videos on this topic especially these days.
It is refreshing to have you 3 saying these things because there is so so so much crazy things in the metaverse. It's definitely majority crazy
Great guest!
Thanks!
This is wonderful!
5dollar to propaganda🤣
Like we're going to remember what we're taught 20 years ago, in 2nd or 3rd grade.. Why we have seasons.. We aren't taught how to survive, the only thing that matters; and that's even if you got a Ph. D.. And the more we loose, the more secure the rich and powerful are at the top..
I watched two buildings come down at free fall speed in their own footprint and then they fenced off the wreckage and didn't let inspectors in. I was told an airplane hit the pentagon and left a twelve foot hole, but there was no fire and no airplane wreckage or bodies and luggage. The plane in PA that crashed because the men took on the hijackers. One was talking to his wife on a cell phone which wasn't possible till 2004. You can not convince me that wasn't a controlled demolition. I saw something that was physically impossible. The weakened steel was in the upper stories. Everything under that wasn't weakened and would not have come down like that. The neocons needed a Pearl Harbor moment and 911 was it. Israel wired them.
You might want to read the comment I just added here, for I, unlike the popular concesus here, tend to agree with you.
Me three..I agree 💯
and did you know that the pyramids are actually made of plywood and paint?...true !
Thank you so much for this excellent discussion. I, along with so many others are thankful for such intelligent thinking. I will share this with as many as possible.
Intriguing, I always knew there was more to life and i have also been looking for a way to find not only protection but a way to be influential to the human society, wish to do more and give more than i am doing now, always feel like i was born for something greater. .
oh well you can achieve that by being a part of the illuminatus brotherhood, i know it sounds like a mystery but there are ways you can actually get in contact with them
@@jamesbennett3843 hi, isn't the brotherhood a myth??
@@haynesatteh4463 Well it is not and you can't actually expect it to be open to everyone, but if you want to know more you can look up ANTHONY MARK SZYMON online you will find something interesting.
@@jamesbennett3843 oh really, i just saw his website, interesting.i will leave him a message.
Why are these not LONGER!!!
6:48 Guest's argument makes no sense. A true conspiracy wouldn't have a papper trail.
Chuck hit the nail on the head. Sometimes if you hear these conspiracies and try to forget some of the facts you already know. The conspiracies make sense. But then you realize you know the facts and realize how some people could indeed fall for some of these conspiracies
Yes, like the FBI pushing a Russia collusion hoax for 2 years, or interfering in elections via Twitter and censorship, or calling Hunter's laptop Russian b.s.
The way DemonRATs dismiss proven facts is 🤣😂😆😂😆
Great content guys. Always a good time learning and laughing. thumbs up.
Just watched Michael Shermer on the Joe Rogan podcast.
I shall look this up!
Hi Gentlemen. I do enjoy listening to to your facts and show. I do wish your guest would look into a case of a lady that worked at Tennessee driver license office in Memphis. That had issued drivers license to some of the 911 hijacker’s. She was arrested after the month of 911. Sorry I don’t have dates. It’s been awhile since. But anyway my only concern is I am a Truck driver of many years and I was on my way back to Memphis on Hwy 78 20 miles from Memphis Tn. At around 1 am at the time it was only a two lane road so all traffic was stopped. Well I found that the lady that was arrested was released from Jail at midnight was the lady in a car that had just burned up on a car. Someone wanted her dead for some reason. But anyway thanks for listening this really did happen. Love the show👍
Why can’t I push the like button 10 times. This truly was a great episode! Thank you
Initially, I saw the phrase “conspiracy theories” in the title and was disappointed. The vast majority of the crazy beliefs and fabrications of the conspiracy mongers do not qualify as a “theory”. Further discussion of what constitutes a valid theory would have been helpful, as the issue was not confronted directly.
Chuck dude ! That Elm St Pine St thing was genius ! That just confirms the narcissist in me.
This might be the best show ever!!
1000 years ago Everyone knew the world was flat, By thinking it was round was a Conspiracy Theory. What we know today as fact can change in a Moment
Good thing about science is you can make sure your right ✅️ 😉
Unfortunately the people who need to listen to this will be the people who try and avoid this type of video like their conspiracy filled life depended on it...
Yes. Conspiracy never happens anymore. That's all left behind and in the history books now.
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@@dissidentexpression8692 Conspiracies are just not revealed by internet sleuths arriving at preconceived conclusions. Revelation always comes from within..... Declassified documents, whistle blowers, accident or carelessness, or breakdown between the conspirators.
I can imagine flat earthers watching this ,scoffing and just throwing sub par insults and jokes around.
Hilarious how they start with "half are below..." basically joking 50% of the human population is dumb and I bet everyone watching this is laughing and saying haha yeah I'm part of the "other" 50% not considering they are, in fact, one of the dumb ones 🤣🤣 loved this vod, super entertaining and interesting
No u
Peolpe tell me i m smart but. I m smart enought to know im not smart
You can be below the average intelligence but still be a rational minded thinker 😜
A recent mind blower for me is that intelligence in the human race is not an even bell curve, It is a RIGHT WEIGHTED bell curve, meaning most humans are in fact, dumb. So if this were a lottery, you'd win money betting that you (we) were the dumb one.
@@funkyd04 that sounds correct based on my anecdotal experience 😅 but where did you hear that from? Just curious
I love how discussions such as these boil down to truth versus consensus.
Yeah, the correct way to discover the rule at 33:31 is to also go into descending numbers. 9, 8, 7. I actually saw the Veratasity channel do a video on this, and one guy out of maybe half a dozen actually figured it out.
100% with Chuck on this one.
Because we are being lied to every day by people we are supposed to trust. This video proves this.
👍👍👍
Great show with a very important subject, specially these days.
Wish the Fairness Doctrine would get reinstated. It would get rid of the BS from news spreading the BS
generally 'skeptics' are just annoying it seems lately, i grew up thinking i was a skeptic, but they seem to prefer their doubt bias over just learning new information. where as i just never assume anything as fact, and am always curious about new information
Michael Shermer is indeed the Patron Saint of Skeptics !
My first time watching this show. It was the longest 56 minutes of my life. Nothing worse than grown men giggling for a whole hour while trying to sound serious.
the only thing more dangerous than believing all conspiracy theories, are believing theyre all false. neil, you are so smart in your field but as a scientist surely you should have the attitude of doing research on a subject before speaking on it! something you clearly have not done here!
There's a marked difference between conspiracy theory and conspiracy. We used to accept conspiracy theory for what it was, a hypothetical possibility. Now it is immediately embraced as fact by people armed with social media and a paranoid suspicion of all things "establishment". The Sandy Hook massacre was not fake just because some people don't like the government.
@@moggpiano8043 thats because the ""establishment" has misused the term and put all conspiracies under the conspiracy theory tag in order to discredit the actual credible ones. this video proves that. they have placed all these things under the conspiracy theory tag when there are legitimate reasons for people questioning the official stories of these things, IE the third building that collapsed miraculously on 9/11, the magic bullet regards to jfk and being british the princess Dianna one, which if you look into the inquest into her death opposed to what the media put out as the cause are totally different. if theyre going to have a discusion about these things they cant just pick and choose what to mention that suits and ignore the main reasons people disbelieve
Let’s leave the word “conspiracy” out of the subject since it’s become an almost insulting term. Let’s also avoid laughing and being hateful to one another and just have a civilized conversation with mutual respect. If I design a product, then I also test my product, and my product is also exclusive and no one else can test it or have private studies on it and then I assure you it’s safe and I can “prove” it because “I” tested it..would you just take my word for it?
I’m a little worried at everyone’s ease at joking about the “others” who are conspiracy obsessed. Everyone here believes something that is completely false/conspiratorial, but because of your own biases you will argue that what you believe is truth.
It’s crazy: I started to watch this video, took a break to hang out with one of my best friends, and randomly brought up the fact that he doesn’t believe we landed on the moon. I didn’t mention that I began watching this video. There were other friends with us who he was trying to convince and I was just amazed at the absurdity of the claim! What timing too. It’s kind of scary to think about how perfectly logical people, in almost all other matters, can believe in things so crazy. The scary part is not the fact he believes the moon landing was fake, but if he believes that, then what’s stopping him from believing other things that are dangerous?
Apollo 11 was followed by six further trips to the Moon, five of which landed successfully. 12 men walked on the lunar surface in total.
2:28 I think that’s the hardest I’ve ever laughed during Star Talk.
The problem is that people DO NOT see the patterns and the symbols and the connections. Most people are oblivious to it all and just go to work , have kids, and pay, pay , pay til they’re sick and dead. Then they have to pay to be buried into the ground!!
HUGE FAN OF NEIL
All caps even
It would be refreshing to hear the truth about the covid vaccines from someone like Neil's voice. Too bad it would end his career/status
This would be a lot more enjoyable if they’d actually let their guests finish their thoughts and answering questions, instead of constantly interrupting them.
What if some are based on proven fact? And this man maybe controlled opposition.
It happens.
Bias can form on people who decide all conspiracy theories are false, they won’t look into information because they assume it’s false just because the last conspiracy was false.
What if you’re a promoter of a conspiracy that you falsely think is based on a fact and are here to increase doubt to the opposition? What ifs can get you to a lot of conclusions, but that doesn’t mean it’s correct.
@@SupremeSquiggly I would dismiss it because there is no proven fact.
@@thisoldminer So you agree that “what ifs” don’t have any credit and you need to prove the “what if”?
@@SupremeSquiggly Absolutely
Great show and a book that I plan to own.
I dont "Want to believe" in some of the Conspiracy theories. When the facts about certain "Conspiracy theories" pile up, which challenge your own world view, you have to reconsider our reality? Are Architects and Engineers and Pilots for 9 11 truth "delusional"?
Bruh what, you started off sounding good but then completely devolved into nonsense.
No, they are grifting for money
Zero legitimacy - for shame!!!
Red herring much? This guy did not mention the third building that imploded
Seriously disappointing - I’m a BIG star talk fan and you bro this trash apologist “expert”
Whatever you seriously don’t have an opinion do you? Good science but riddled with false stories
Love you Neil
I don't think they're at all delusional, in fact, read my just added comment here... it might just open some eyes.
conspiracy theorists are people who question everything. best route for honest science
They're too playful in this but I don't mind the brief "intermissions" because sometimes these small interactions sets it apart from those boring political discussions.
Great epesode guys.The government has not done us any favors by conducting secret experiments on the populous. Taking that a step further, not sure the CIA is doing more harm than good.
On schooling., one class most of us were required to take was Geometry. Not sure the last time I had to know what theory talked about opposite interior angles. What would have served me more in my later life would have been a course covering logical fallacies and how to recognize them.
"a course covering logical fallacies and how to recognize them."
7:30 to 8:30 are nice strawman and red herring arguments. Logical fallacies don't however make a logical argument.
Workers removing debris from ground zero reported pools of molten metal, there is video of molten metal pouring out of a damaged support beam, and temperature measurements by satellites of ground zero showed temperatures beyond the maximum open air temperatures of hydrocarbon fires. Saying that steal can deform at lower temperatures doesn't address the molten metal, and is thus a red herring.
In terms of the official story the fireball didn't heat the support beams much, as evidenced by people leaning on them in pictures. if they were hot enough to deform from the fire ball then they would be too hot to lean on. There was active thermitic material discovered in dust samples from WTC, and iron spheroids, again showing molten steel.
Those arguing the official conspiracy don't present evidence. Lets see the evidence for this fictional al Qaeda(base in Arabic).
This is "the base" as officially explained.
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The official story is up there with the UFO crazies. You can't argue logically as you have no logical position. There were plenty of leaks, and plenty of people explained things between the lines.
We could talk about the 1993 FBI bombing of the WTC. There is evidence.
@@abram730 what you have is a bunch of “they said” and “people found” arguments. You need sources from reputable, scientific backgrounded sources to prove a claim like that.
@@wolfiemuse What your side has is logical fallacies, and the complete absence of evidence. You don't even consider NASA imaging, a reputable, scientific source?
Don't believe our lying eyes, rather we should just accept the claims of pathological liars without question?
What proof has been given that undetectable people, living under the ground, attacked us on 911?
Let's see your evidence for the existence of al Qaeda, "the base".
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@@abram730 I’m not having this argument with you. There are hundreds of experts who have done their own independent research that show it is implausible to have been intentionally planned. I will happily defer to them, as should you. You were not a scientist who studied the aftereffects, you’re not a scientist at all. In massive cases such as these, one of my favorite quotes applies here: “It is the height of arrogance to believe that I know better than those who have spent their lives studying this.” I think that is something that you should remember.