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I believe what the dude means when he can’t believe that species although they gradually change have different chromosomes do you understand that the blueprint remains the same grass came first in genesis & science also agrees this earth was formless null void black lifeless essentially you read a vivid description of entropy or the Big Bang in genesis if evolutions true humans can be wiped out completely and as long as there’s some fish left, we can evolve again. You could look at wolves and dogs and how they changed thousands of years and not realize evolution? we purposefully changed their appearance. Darwin was on an island he was obviously bored.
As an Iranian, as someone who's lived under Islamic law, I have an immense respect for Dawkins. He's the guy that sees religion for what it really is. A tool to justify hate onto a fellow human. A tool of power and control for the ones holding power. Religion teaches you to believe and follow, science teaches you to doubt until proven. Bad things happen when you allow others to think for you. People who when questioned refer you to non-tangible beings who can't answer.
Pinky toes are useful because when the room is dark and you have no source of light, your toes will help you find your furnitures by jamming into the edges of them. Very critical usage.
I can listen to Dawkins talk about evolution all day. I used to be a young earth creationist, and it's largely Dawkins' ability to communicate the elegance of evolution that has led me to where I am now. I am about to graduate from university with a degree in geoscience and am currently looking into paleontology graduate programs. Thanks to people like Dawkins and Tyson I've taken the first steps into a much larger world.
Welcome to an indeed much larger world of wonders and mysteries, we will try to solve the unknown as a species of the cosmos. We will fall and fail, but science will help us get up and try again.
Congratulations on your graduation and wishing you the best in the years to come. Common sense, logic and reason is a much better and safer way to live life
@@paulzenco6182 Because you have such a deep understanding of quantum physics and math, that you can prove your claim ? If you can do that you will win the Nobel prize and be the new Einstein for at least 1000 years. i ordered pizza and popcorn, and await your debunking of 200 years of cosmology and science. The stage is yours my friend.
Evolution happens in stages… At their level of evolution religion seems to be the only thing that could be true! They had no scientific devices! No means to truly reason! So they turned to faith! At our level of evolution science can’t answer every question but it has taught us a lot! Who knows what we’ll believe in 300 years from now!!!
So I listen to you and prof. Dawkins here, and the one thing that struck me the most was the moment he said we had to try and live as _if_ we were optimistic. But then we truly do! We owe it to those after us. We are more than mere mortal individuals -- we are the bits in a cosmic stream of consciousness, travelling through time and space, and I think that is poetic. We are the dead. But we are also the unborn, as those now dead were us before we came to be. We are here to transfer the momentum, and doing so in the best way we can is our raison d'être.
And yet all my hope is in this world and I don't feel miserable. Instead I feel that I belong. And that if we tried our best here and now, there would be future us too. And if those tried their best -- there could be us through the end of time. And maybe, just maybe, we could find mates one day -- others, who just like us, walked their path with a strong sense of direction. In this world.
@@blurandomnumbercall upon the Lord while He can be found. You don't want to end up alone before your maker rejecting Him. We are eternal beings, either eternal life found through God's Son Yeshua or eternal torment, choice is ultimately yours.
There is so much poetry and awe in science. Physics was my first love. I recall in my first year when I was taking physics, chemistry, and biology together, and I walked out one day and heard a bird singing on an electrical wire. I could almost see the beauty of the interference patterns of the resonant waves that carried the bird song to my ear, and feel the electrons traversing the wires. The math of the energy of fusion delivering photons from the sun across the solar system at incredible speed danced in my head with the aerodynamics of pressure differentials that allowed the jet high above to zoom across the sky. It was a moment of ecstatic revelation requiring only the mind altering force of a little math and science. 50+ years later I cherish that memory. For me, science & math only magnify exponentially the awe & wonder of the world around me.
I can listen to Richard Dawkins speak all day. I have thoroughly studied his entire literary collection. He is an undervalued individual with extraordinary intellectual capacity, serving as both a great scientific thinker and an adept inquisitor in our era.
@@Nutterbutter123 Does he? I have seen a lot of debates with him and various Christian apologists / theologians in my time, and never seen any of them make any compelling arguments. He's famously not strong on philosophy, but honestly neither are these theologians and apologists.
I was very young when i started listening to dawkins, and his thoughts on religion and science and as an indian kid born in hindu family, it was fresh and astonishing. I feel lucky that i was able to understand and come out of religious beliefs and accept science. And not just me but my younger brother, cousins too. Now in our family, we the youngest generation are almost all agnostic and rest of the scientists helped us love science even more.
@@wespeakforthetrees same. I have also recently read the speculative evolutionary fiction "all tomorrows" by nemo ramjat and 'blindsight' by peter watts. Both blew me away
@@benoitmetail8727 I do hope your life improves to such a point whereby you don't have to be such a disappointing and miserable contributor. Go have a quiet word with yourself about why you would want be so disparaging.
My top two scientists and educators I live in a very dark and backward society And your videos are the only things that keeping me alive in the 21st century lol Thank you so much for your work ❤ Female atheist from yemen
WOW we need more of your kind in AMERICA, hope you can make it out here some day and leave the darkness and backwardness of your primitive Islamic society behind MUCH LOVE LADY🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
@@joegordon-p6x I really want to come to the USA, I believe it has much more control on the Islamic ideologies than European countries Unfortunately I don't think I will ever be able to come without help, but thanks so much for your support
@@Anonymous_Alien11 i wish i had the power to help bring you and anyone else who shares your views to USA, maybe someone reading can help, hang in there beautiful person Sadly USA lets in plenty of muslim fanatics its a SHAME on AMERICA and very dangerous to our society, i am hoping this current regime in charge is swept out of power soon and we make the changes to allow ONLY YOUR KIND to enter
I've been a trucker for 24yrs. When I first heard your podcast back in the day, I was hooked. I bought your book Death By Black Hole. Mind blown. That was the first book I ever read cover to cover after I had already read the Bible. My second book was The God Delusion. That led me down a path to where I am now. I'd always had questions that no one could answer. So, I started reading books from the 4 horsemen. I think that I'm well rounded now. Thanks to you both. 👊🏾
The energy in this interview is fantastic. Watching Neil shed 40 years talking to his role model, super cool. And even though Dawkins is a giant, he's so gracious and charming. This will be a classic.
@FredCaillou452 Thinking theology is special is sorta silly. It's no different than having a PhD in Marvel comics. Very interesting, but a complete waste when you can't justify belief in a specific religion. If you think they can, then I have some bad news for you. Most philosophers and physicists are not theists lol for very solid reasons at that.
@@Glasstable2011 Christian theology is basis for modern society. Almost all the greatest scientists were christians (Newton, Faraday, Tesla, Pascal etc.). Comparing christianity and islamic radicaIs is ironic at best. Sorry, but atheism and darwinism brought nothing to this world nor helped civilization.
Richard reminds me of a really brilliant friend I had who just recently passed away, and from taking his life at that. It's been hard. He was so well spoken, but mostly reserved and silent. He was very humorous, and at times it would just catch you off gaurd, he had little patience with anything he considered juxtaposing truth, and even Dawkins' laugh is gentle and genuine much like his was.. I miss him so much, and I really wish I could have seen my friend succeed further in his passion like I know he could have. He really was an amazing person with a great mind, and I'm sorry he'll never get to share it with anyone. 😞
True, Richard looks fake and very stressed. People like that can easily take their lives cause they are fake and illusion. Stress evolution. We had a guy like that, always acting bigger than himself and acting like a genius but he too took his life.
@@Davkal-h5n What a miserable interpretation of what the poster said. He did not suggest that Richard Dawkins is fake, nor very stressed. He only said that his deceased friend shared some similar admirable characteristics with Richard. Have some sensitivity.
Prof Neil-De-grass has become the great sales man of science. Not just astrophysics. The way He communicates the wonders of the world. Carl Segan would rest easy knowing his good work continues❤
I'm from Turkey, and I admire people like Dawkins very much. Although we don't live under islamic law, religion is very favored and things like evolution are taboo by Erdogan's islamist ideas. Dawkins gives very convincing answers to questions about life. Good man.
one of the catastrophes that came to Turkey is Erdogan and his out of date islamic philosophies and sharia, and i mean he was sticking until recently to lowering the interest rate while the economy is collapsing and inflation is sky high, making the damage even worse, just because a man in the desert of arabia 1500 years ago told him that interest is taboo and that his God doesnt like it. I am afraid that average Turks gonna pay a heavy price for this crap.
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I recently learnt why prestige scientists avoid getting into politics at any cost. Here's why & there's a video documenting Mr. Dawkins reaction when asked about the recent events at many universities.
As I grew in Turkish-type Muslim culture and my interest in scientific subjects increased, I started to question belief systems. And I realized that we have been living in the dream world for generations, thank you very much to everyone who tells scientific content like you and enlightens people, I hope we will stop fighting wars like are close cousins, with our developing technology, we can reach the level of type 1 civilization as humanity.
Tis why Jesus said love thy neighbor even show sympathy to your enemies…..he tried to steer us in the right direction…arrogant greedy narcissistic mankind just wont listen
As a born again believer, I truly have immense respect and inspiration for the thoughtfulness of Dawkins. Although our beliefs may differ spiritually, physically we come to an agreement that science is the poetry of existence. Much love, Neil.
Uh, Fyre, we need Richard to keep us grounded in terra firma because his eyes and mind are focused on the material and physical. We have an advantage over him inspite of his vast learning because we recognize the non physical but very real sid
Dawkins is such an exceptional educator. He can take a incredibly complex concept and explain it in a straightforward way. The human race needs more people like him.
I think Neil is always very careful to say things in a way that doesn't make fun of anyone who disagrees with any particular point, and that care encourages people to challenge their own beliefs better than ridicule or dismissal ever does. He loves the scientific process, the gradual improvement of our understanding of the universe, and he loves sharing that enthusiasm.
Despite how ignorant the both of these men make me feel about myself. They are still two of my most favorite people that I could listen to and learn from all day long. My ancestor was Dr. Gideon Lincecum. He was close friends of Dr. Charles Darwin. Who also was nternationally famed as a botanist, naturalist, author, veteran of the war of 1812 and a great American pioneer.
People rarely mention Dan Dennett’s book Breaking The Spell: Religion As A Natural Phenomenon, but I think it is an essential book on philosophy. Especially Dennett’s survey of “Belief in Belief” - truly comprehensive and brilliant work.
I happened upon Dawkins speaking on a tv show many many years ago. I had still considered myself christian despite knowing evolution was a real thing. But that show alteted my life forever. It sent me down a deep rabbit hole on religion and the past and science and truth. And it was in that rabbit hole where I discovered how when and why christianity was made up and how it was related to much older religions. Now I am a devout anti-theist. Thank you Richard Dawkins for exposing me to information and inspiring many years of research.
@@linzlove paganism, hinduism, judaism etc etc. Lot's of little local religions and belief systems can be found in christianity. Christianity is about as original as Twilight.
@@ButBigger42 thank you. I'm interested because having looked into the evidence I see Christianity following on directly from Judaism. I also studied into Hinduism and I'm not convinced that's any older than Judaism. And it seems that the existence of other religions at the same time as Judaism is well documented. I don't see why that would undermine Christianity.
@@linzlove all I can say is study a bit more. Hinduism is much older. Some of the texts date back 8-10,000 years ago. Several thousand years before judaism. Christianity wouldn't come about until around 1700 years ago. The bible wasn't even canonized till 300-400 AD. The first non bible writer about christ wasn't even born til after the alleged crucifiction. And then there's the fact that the Romans at the time kept pretty good records and nothing jesus was alleged to do was recorded including starting a riot. The information is out there if you actually dig into it.
I never actually wondered how the theory of evolution through natural selection came so late only in the 19th century. Now you said it, i can't unthink it. It really at its base level isn't too complex to notice.
Yeah I've never thought about it either but it does seem strange how late the theory was developed I guess religion was so ingrained within us that we didn't bother to think of an alternative. That plus the consequences of saying that God might not exist at that time was being burnt at the steak.
I would love to hear Dr Dawkins comes up with a explanation on the creation of the first cell. The last I have heard from him on it was still a reliance on magical self-replicating molecules.
@@scoobydoo9579 first of all they probably aren't magical. Just because you don't understand something doesn't men you should resort to calling it magic. we know that DNA and RNA is a self replicating chemical and it isn't magical. second of all, evolution is an entirely separate theory from abiogenesis so your comment is completely unrelated to everything they discussed in this video. They didn't mention abiogenesis at all and they didn't need to so they could talk about evolution because they are unrelated!
@@AdamHernandez4012 They are talking about evolution versus religion. Religion talks about creation and doesn't care much about micro evolution. Macro evolution without creationism "is completely unrelated" to religion. Talking about evolution without starting from cell genesis is such an incomplete theory that should not be talked about with religion at all. DNA and RNA could self-replicate, but how did that come to be? Why did they decide to form? Nucleotides do not form on its own from its components. Yes, I purposely referred to abiogenesis "theory" as "magic" in exactly the same manner that Dr Dawkins used that term repeatedly in The God Delusion.
@@scoobydoo9579 actually if you read the title it says science, religion, and evolution. Not just a battle over religion so they are allowed to talk about science and evolution. I’m not sure what you meant about macro and micro evolution but they are allowed to talk about more stuff than religion. Also a theory doesn’t need to have everything about the universe to be complete. Evolution only talks about the changes in species over long periods of time through natural selection. That is all there is to evolution. Abiogenesis is an entirely separate theory that isn’t related and isn’t in the title of the video. (Science is mentioned but that’s really broad)
Its 1 in the morning, i have to go to work in 4 hours, I could listen to this man for the last few hours i have to sleep. Its refreshing and reassuring there are people like him out there. The voice not just of reason but of common sense.
Would love for Dr Dawkins to explain the creation of the first cell. It is so incomplete to have a belief system that does not account for the most basic unit of life -- the first cell. While I give other PhDs like Neil Tyson a pass since they are not biologists, this is Dr Dawkins' core discipline. Why is he stopping before having an answer?
@@scoobydoo9579 I think Richard Feynman puts it best when a reporter asked him to explain magnetism. He illustrates how difficult I is to answer these types of questions depending on who is asking them. th-cam.com/video/MO0r930Sn_8/w-d-xo.html
The joy this channel brings a lonely, depressed, person that has an absence of intellectual conversation in their life, is priceless. “A self-licking ice cream cone” had me laughing nearly as hard as the ‘double rainbow’ and ‘pinky toe’ portions. Thank you.
Hey man, sorry to hear you are lonely. The world is pretty crazy right now and mental health has suffered across the board. Just know, I appreciate you and your active, searching mind. From New Zealand Kia Kaha
One of my favorite things about hearing your interviews is the book recs I get out of them. If I connect to the guest I immediately search out their published works to add to my own modest library. Great interview!
they are not great minds , they lack wisdom for one . they both said that we do not need philosophy as science has all of the answers. ( a dangerous and silly statement ) and Neil is so intellectually dishonest he is ok with science and the military being inextricable linked despite the cost to human life yet he claims to be a humanist. Also check out his video on men becoming women , and the amount of illogical bs he spouts for a so called scientist
I can't believe I came find out Dennett passed away through this clip. He was one of my favorite modern scientific thinkers, and he helped influence much of what I understand today. RIP to one of the greatest.
Why should he rest in peace as he is just a collection of digital information of which he was the molecular machine, as per Mr Dawkins assessment of humanity. Darwinism says he is dead, has no spirit and will not live again. The dead part is true, but in time he will live In time he will be forgotten and what will his life mean in a million years? Rest in peace is a pointless phrase to an evolutionist with no creator.
@@jamiestonhamrest in peace does not mean that a dead human will rest in peace literally, it means that their memories will hopefully be peaceful to the people still alive, psychologically. Robin Williams is dead and has no idea Will Smith shamelessly tried to re-do the Genie in Aladdin. Robin is not resting in peace in our minds because of that.
@@Arcexey that is incorrect. 😂😂 Rest in peace originally comes from Jesus when he tries to explain to his disciples, death is like sleeping. The dead are conscious of nothing, they are at peace and will be resurrected when he comes again. When Lazarus died he said he was sleeping.
Thank you both. It is an absolute pleasure to listen to you every time. I am humbled by your wisdom. As an Iranian ex-Muslim, I adore Dawkins. After I lost my religion, I used his books and interviews to learn how to debate with religious nutcases. Can't compare this interview with the one with Piers Morgan. Lots of love and respect to you both. ❤️
Richard Dawkins, in the past ten years I’ve listened to many of your books narrated passionately by yourself. I always get engrossed by the science you teach, the arguments you make, and the dignity and ferocity with which you define your pursuit Neil degrades Tyson, whom I spent so many hours, listening to your podcasts and videos, enriching me with knowledge and curiosity, what more could I have asked for on my birthday from your show Thank you 💎
The origin of life is one of the great unanswered questions. As of today, there is no known mechanism for life emerging from non-life. And, no one has observed and documented the origin of life from non-life. The mechanisms in the living cell for storing and retrieving information, synthesizing proteins from this information, and coordinating all of life’s functions are astounding and far more complex than anything that human-kind has engineered. Evolution describes how life changes over time, but not how life originated.
That is not 100% true. If creating life from non-life (abiogenesis) was a 10 step process, we have steps 1, 2, 5, 7, 9, and 10. Just because we are missing some of the steps does not mean we will never fill in those gaps, nor does it mean that we have not observed many of the steps in a lab or in nature.
@@dwoodbury65 The natural synthesis of all known biomolecules has been empirically observed. We have not found a single molecule that requires a large eternal man in sandals to blow into clay. ;-)
That conversation felt like 54 seconds rather than 54 minutes! It was inspiring to see that even as brilliant and knowledgeable as Dr. Tyson is, the obvious excitement he displayed at the opportunity to learn, as opposed to being the one disseminating knowledge and information for others, was a rare treat to witness. It was great to see the spark in his eye and almost giddy enthusiasm for the opportunity to speak to someone who has such a deep command for a subject matter and well contemplated perspective on his area of expertise as Dr. Dawkins.
On a natural level, the idea that brand new information can be added to DNA to get the diversity of life we have today has never gone outside the realm of a philosophical belief -- a statement based on all the data and research we have done on DNA. One of the reasons their has been so so much research on DNA is to try and prove that what Darwin said was right. This is one of the many arguments you can use to debunk Darwinism . And as a Christine , debating Dawkins on religion would be easy.
it's perplexing that for hundreds of years genuinly smart people still don't understandt that "the existence of God is a question of faith and not of science"
Listening to two great contemporary scientists is a great privilege to me. I’m really lucky living in their time and see them and listen to them live, and reading their books too.
I think Neil would be a much better communicator if he did more: Ask a question and sit mostly silent until the other person fully finishes their train of thought. As opposed to interjecting often and always wanting to talk about the things he wants to talk about.
@@KodyCQYep And I'm pointing out how most other people are able to have those conversations in a better, less self-centered, way. I am far from the first person to point out Neil's tendency to make every conversation about himself and cut others off constantly, in order to talk about the things he wants to talk about. Get out of here with your useless, unproductive one-liner lmao.
I totally agree with you. I was anticipating for Dawkins to answer the questions thoroughly but Neil keeps interjecting his thoughts on the same question not allowing Dawkins to fully finish his answer.
Neil is also an interesting communicator and I enjoy listening to what he has to say. That said, Neil can talk all he wants on his podcast every day, but in this moment he has Dawkins sitting right there, and it seems a terrible waste not to let the good Doctor get more words in. If Neil ever reads this, I urge him to "gratefully accept the rebuke".
32:01 I think I completely understand what Richard is getting at with "the poetry of reality". He's not talking about cringy words people write when requested by a newspaper. He's talking about the sublime and subtle ecstasy of coming to know and understand the truth about things. How that feeling can be so much richer and expansive than any sacred feeling based on believing a fiction. I believe that is what he means regarding what he's trying to envoke in his books, and he does manage to bring his readers along with this feeling superbly from my reading. Perhaps I'm susceptible to it though and others aren't so much, to some factual stuff is necessarily dry and dull. But I've always sought truth as a deep personal spiritual goal, akin to others understanding their religion perhaps, so for me when I feel I'm approaching truth about something there's a quiet ecstasy in that, as the mental clouds and dust clear.
I understand you Amy, i.o.w., science informs better and more realistic religious constructs while religion professes "moral truths" all scientist do not all agree upon nor seem they ever will.
The one man I would have wanted to hear more than Richard Dawkins especially on startalk would be Christopher hitchens who like Dawkins is a truly astute sadly passed away but Richard is marvelous
Funny story, when I was younger Richard Dawkins came to my community in Stamford Hill to talk about religion. I grew up orthodox and thought he was provocative. Later in life, I found my brother reading the god delusion in his room on the day of atonement. We got into a debate and he made a deal with me. If I read the origins of species and wasn’t convinced that the argument for evolution was just a little more logical than the Old Testament that he would never argue with me again. I took the challenge and since left the community altogether. It had been a wild ride and it felt like I was blindly living life up until then. That was almost 20 years ago
While i can agree that you can change the species through natural selection Darwin theory does not explain how elementary cell that consist of many cleverly engineered and put together components so that without any of them cell could not actually exist would develop from something simpler? You cant have engine running without timing belt, valves, pistons and throttle all at the same time. Same way cell without vital components would never had chance to evolve. Think about it.
@@sergeydudukin4214 It's about expanding your knowledge ............. I was brought up Christian with huge emphasis on church, religious studies etc but as I read more, I discovered things that didn't add up. Answers in Genesis was touted as an explanation and while it does go some way to explaining biblical events, it does tend to gloss over problems. There are so many books, scientific papers, seminars etc out there that I found it impossible to ignore evolution. Where the original spark for life came from, we don't know but scientists are still working on that one. If you find that insulting then that's your own problem.
@@fabianmckenna8197 knowledge is a spiral. you came from very simplistic explanation given in Bible which of course doesnt explain it well. Then you fell into scientific approach which looks much more rigorous to you and it is. If you dive deeper into it you will find many insights that life would not be able to exist without too many coincidences to the point that you cannot explain world around us without introducing creator whatever you call it. This world was designed and not just randomly evolved out of garbage.
Thank you for the in depth interview with Richard Dawkins. I have heard about him, but haven't read any of his books. Because of your interview I now feel compelled to order his books, wrote all the titles you mentioned, and will order several today. Your contributions of exposing us to the excitement of the sciences is indeed your greatest achievement for us average folks, who just need a little well intentioned push to an otherwise seemingly secret life of our scientific community. Thanks
"The Magic of Reality: How We Know What's Really True" is a great general science book, as he covers a number of advanced scientific fields. What makes it great is he starts from an easy point of reference, like the chapter "What is a Rainbow", and uses that easy starting point to walk you up to how we know the universe is expanding.
Richard Dawkins is fantastic, he is one of the most intelligent professors and scientists that there has ever been. and because of him many years ago I made the decision to become an Atheist. there was no way I couldn't have.
Richard Dawkins once discussed evolution with a young earth creationist named Howard Conder, this must be about a decade ago if not more. Howard asked questions, Dawkins answered them in very clear detail, and afterwards Howard just said something like "Oh, I'm sorry, I was just thinking about the book of Genesis" and didn't appear to have listened to a single word Dawkins had said. The look on his face said it all. That night when I fell asleep, I had a dream that I met Richard Dawkins in an airport, and he just looked depressed at dealing with that kind of person, so I went over and gave him a hug. I don't agree with Richard Dawkins on everything, but on most things I think I do. Certainly on evolution.
@@Rugerous I'm not sure I understand your question. I agree that evolution is the natural process of random mutations and genetic recombinations filtered through selection pressures, which accounts for the diversity of life on earth. I agree that all life on earth descends from a single-celled ancestor, and that we are a subspecies of african ape, specifically we share a relatively recent common ancestor with chimpamzees, and that human beings originated in Africa in the great rift valley. That everything about us can be explained through entirely natural processes without needing to invoke any deities or magic.
@@Lleanlleawrg I guess I'm asking why you believe what you just said. Why do you believe there is evolution through mutations and natural selection if there is nothing to show thousands of different birds wings in transition, only the end result along with every animal and plant ever and the fact that every changed animal from the ape to human has a better chance of being seen than the ape, with nothing to show inbetween. Those are just questions everyone has and I'm trying to figure it out
@@Rugerous Aha, I think I understand why you're confused, but I'll try to explain: Evolution is a blind ongoing process. It doesn't have an end-goal in mind. It's not like it's following some sort of development roadmap. What you see as end-results are actually a transitional species. You and I are living, breathing transitional species right now. We just don't know what our remote descendants will be like, because of the time scales. It's not like evolution predicts we'll find the fossil of a creature that has the face of a fish and the hind legs of a giraffe or something wild like that. Your mom and dad are transitional between your grandparents and you. The changes are very slight, and you're all "end products" at the time you're born. What evolution predicts is that very small unguided changes will randomly occur - through recombining the DNA of both parents, and any random mutations that may occur. Maybe you think there's such a thing as "micro evolution" and "macro evolution", but that's not a thing. It's all just evolution.
@@Rugerous Spoken like someone who doesn't understand evolution. Every species that ever existed including us are transitional species, we're _always_ changing little by little. How drastic the changes are depends on time. 500-2000 years ago our Ancestors would be slightly different from us but not too much and that is true for the future 500-2000 years. Change that to hundreds of thousands or millions of years and it's easy to understand how vast changes can come about. Then of course there's also the fact that if you ask the medical community they will literally tell you evolution is the foundational pillar for all of modern biology. All your doctors follow it's rules even if they don't personally believe it because it works and it's part of their job.
So I want to start this out by saying I am far from an intellectual sophisticated thinker, in my opinion. I don't believe that I'm ignorant or ill-educated. My point is I love Neil Degrassi! He gets you to grasp thoughts that most people wouldn't I just love to listen to his theories, his understanding, his scientific knowledge. It opens my mind to so many things I NEVER would have even thought of or been in the realm. But he speaks to something my kind and heart can digest and learn from. I would have loved to have him as a professor! There are a few great minds left in this world I feel and I wish more people would value their intellect and understanding. I fear our world has come to a point where being dumb down is easier. But he makes it fun, understandable, comprehensive.. we need more ppl making. Philosophy, science, geology, mathematics, ECT FUN! So thank you☺️
I always delighted in the thought that natural selection made the most sense to me as a kid and as an adult. Just stating that something was created instead of changing over time was rather short sighted and dull. I love evolution and it makes and has a complete history. For me there is no reason for religion at all.
Except the problem is that we live in a reality in which things can both be created and also change over time. It makes sense for evolution to have a complete history, but I don't think we've came anywhere close to scratching the surface of it considering we don't even know where single celled organisms originated from or what their purpose even is.
All these conversation both of them is having on evolution is an outdated theory. Theory of evolution came about at a time when scientists thought that life can spring out from anywhere. And when Louis Pasteur came along it was proven untrue. And when DNA was discovered, no one can tell where that mind boggling code came from. People talking about evolution is considered old school. They can walk away from their own lies unless they admit the truth.
I must say, this video was very enlightening. First I have immense respect for Niel de-Grass Tyson both as an educator and as a person, Second my introduction to Richard Dawkins was oddly enough through music. Yes, Nightwish and the albums Human Nature, Endless Forms Most Beautiful, and Yesterwynde. I thought I understood the meaning of the albums until hearing this conversation. Now I understand! Thank You.
it goes beyond religion. I've been doing science for almost 30 years and I can attest that, as scientists, what we want to know is biased by what we already know and getting away from that is what separates good science from the bad
Also it’s just plain cyclic reasoning. Of course any rabbit 🐇 is a quintessential rabbit, because that’s what we’ve deemed to be called a rabbit. Of course it can be nothing else.
It goes even deeper than that. The language we use form how we are able to reason about the world around us. If you don't have the necessary words to describe an idea it is much harder to even come up with it in the first place. That is something that the churches have understood and they are doing their utmost to form the language, and with that the thought process, to make it harder to question their dogma. If one listens to how they describe their view of the world and notes the words they tend to use it becomes quite obvious. Two good examples are "believing in science" and to quote Ricky Gervais: "Why is there not a word for not believing in fairies?". The same tendencies can be observed in some media and the words they choose. I have noted a trend towards more polarizing and more dramatic language which in turn forms how the public tend to view the world. The selection of what gets reported and what doesn't get reported is of course an important factor as well. Seen from the other side of the pond the US seems to be particularly obvious in this regard.
@@aarias99 Well put. Given the observable evidence of the appearance of fine-tuned Physical Constants, Dawkins says it's a "preference" whether we believe there's a Mind behind it all...or not. He "prefers" there not to be a Mind, i prefer to believe there's an Intelligence. ( Not a Religious God though!).
To suggest animals (including humans) evolved by natural selection instead of Devine creation would have been considered heresy until the last few centuries. I think religion is the culprit, as to why it took so long for someone to come up with natural selection
@@zutzun8230Say it with me, "we don't know." That's it. That's where it stops. Is that so hard to accept for you? The answer could be anything, not just God or no God, it could literally be anything or nothing. There's literally no proof of God, let alone proof that he is omnipresent, all-powerful, all-knowing. That's just people making stuff up. But there are still lots of contradictions in every existing religion. Even if we don't know where everything came from, we still know religions are simply wrong.
@@zutzun8230 I did say it. What's wrong with saying it? I wanted to give an explanation (with God as an example) of why we don't know if something came from something or something came from nothing.
as a Christian I can appreciate the opinions of Mr.Dawkins and Mr.Tyson. Earlier this year we started in Genesis and an individual in the group had brought up Darwin and the myth that he denounced his theory. Darwin never denounced his theory on his death bed, contrary to the belief Darwin was kind enough to let Christians congregate on his property, all very fascinating and while I struggle in Genesis and with certain areas I can always appreciate conversation
It's not though it's bronze age history. We invent the metaphors to suit the current agenda. It's far from harmless for it creates delusional mania. It can be the justification for inhuman behaviour.
This was refreshing to hear Neil be so complimentary, and even apologetic on occasion, with virtually no interrupting of his guest. I do enjoy most of his work, though it’s apparent why he does so well with comedians with him, to lighten him up, and him having to watch his mouth😊 [edit] - and Wow, he even gets all philosophical on us as he closes out here!
I taught my children to always ask, “Why?” Always be curious about your surroundings; the environment and with people around you. There’s an infinite knowledge waiting to be learned!
thank you professor degrasse and richard dawkins from morocco africa we love what you do in your speciale scientific show...i learned a lot from you all love and peace😇🙏🙏🙏🙏
One of the best interviews so far! I’ve been following StarTalk for years, and I’m hoping to see Dawkins again as a guest on the show. What an excellent educator who is not afraid to dive deep into “taboo” topics and ask thought-provoking questions. 👏👏
If you ask enough questions about the origin of what you see, you'd logically reason that there must be a creator. You can argue that creator isn't the Christian/Muslim etc God, but there must be an intelligent being behind the intelligent design we see around us
@@curtarnoldsThere is no stated rule that there HAS to be an intelligent designer. This isn’t really an argument as it doesn’t have much of an actual basis. It functions solely on the basis of an assumption rather than on evidence.
For years I’ve tried talking about science, especially astronomy to people. All I ever got was glazed over eyes. 👀 they thought the subject, or me, was boring. I never understood that. But I finally gave up and don’t talk about science anymore. Sad.
Dont give up. Try find spaces where there is interest in the real world or online. Nothing more amazing than sharing your thoughts about the world with an equally fascinated person. Good luck
That's very sad people justbseem to be tough vaginas these days I can't stand it science is amazing mathematics amazing if people don't like it it's simply because they can't grasp it
I'll tell you lime this about an eye and this is a fact i don't knowif people realize this if you are 100% blind in a eye you will still be hurt by the sun as if you weren't blind in it a close friend told me that
That is because you were probably talking to God fearing Americans. Who've been brain washed with religious BS since they were able to understand words. All religion is evil and designed to enslave your mind. There is no god. The only true creator is the sun, and exploded ancient stars that created everything we are made of.
The ultimate question is - why are organisms on earth programmed to survive? The first single cell organism - why did it evolve to survive? Where does that need to be better and populate comes from? We know that outcome of this is natural selection, but the question is why are organisms programmed to fight for that? That is why we have life. There is a code written/ programmed in the first living cell - 'survive and make copies of youself'. Evolution is a by-product of that code.
What you are describing has been called the absolute, in which information, the "codes" and "programming" have been said to come from. These two do not believe the absolute (or God) is required in order for life to do it thing. They will mention environmental pressures and millions of years of time to develop as enough to explain how we get to LUCA. I think that's fair, just as I think your question is fair. Good luck trying to get why answers from what problems. What really matters is how YOU feel.
Two great minds…..one of them thinks, men can become women and women men…the other one will possibly come to this conclusion, with enough political pressure….Science TM!!
@@starsine9062 From your comment, it's clear you think men can't become women, and women can't become men. I used to think that too, and I changed my opinion, and it wasn't because of political pressure. But before we go further on this, I'd love to know how you define what a man is and what a woman is, so we're certain to discuss the same terms here.
I felt embarrassed for Terrence the whole time, especially when Terrence was shuffling his stuff, and Eric kept on talking about Terrence to Joe like a therapist explaining what's troubling the patient.
It was like a parent talking to his young kid. Eric did a great job. Unbelievable amount of patience by him. Terrance did himself no favors and didn't ever catch the underlying tone of Eric the adult tip toeing around Howard's child like ADHD ramblings of nonsense. Kudos to Eric.
I often feel this way, but I've never wished more for Neil to be quiet and let the other person talk for once in his life. He is literally talking to a living legend and interrupting him and going off on irrelevant tangents when we could learn so much from hearing him talk.
Dawkins has been on so many I interviews and talkshows I don't know why you're so insistent on hearing the same words out of his mouth that you could easily find anywhere else. Neil has his own style but more importantly is just having his own fun and is doing these interviews because he wants to. You've got the wrong expectations.
Can’t teach an old dog new tricks! Even when speaking to one of his scientific heroes, his excitement can’t control his inability to stop interrupting and let Dawkins fully express his views. Kind of a lost opportunity on a few topics, but all in all, this was a great conversation. I hope there is more to come since this was so brief. 🤞
I agree but Neil just being Neil and trying to make some stories and jokes in between(with good intentions), he forgets that Richard already is interesting just speaking
If I could have a wish, it would be to spend a week in a mountain cabin with these two fine educators, just talking about science and the world and the universe, eating good food, sharing drinks, looking at the stars at night, looking at the nature around us, and just being around two of the best minds of our time. And I know at the end of that week I would want to make a second wish, for a week would not be enough!
Neil, you need to read Malcolm Gladwell's, The Tipping Point. Paul Revere was a special individual and certainly had a large impact on the revolutionary war which helped create the country that allows you and I to prosper. I'm not the biggest Gladwell fan (igon values!), but I think he got this one right. Love the show and you generally! 🖖
I really wish you had more live events in the Carolinas!! I would absolutely love to see you but travel is pretty hard :( love you Neil thank you for keeping people interested in science and helping young people get intrigued !!!
I’m an agnostic atheist, have been since I can remember, and Neil deGrasse Tyson is a big helper in that. I can put a lot of my beliefs into words, express them, give evidence and reasoning as to why. The points that I can’t or that need more depth? Neil has it. He is such an inspiration to me.
PROOF FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD: You walk into a room to get a drink of water, as you approach the fountain you pass a pool table and notice the balls are scattered around the table’s surface. You get the drink. As you turn to leave you notice the balls are now in the familiar racked triangular pattern, in order, and facing forward. What do you think? “Why did the balls move themselves like this? No. Pool balls are inert, lifeless, they cannot think or move themselves. For an inert element to move, a force external to it must exert itself against it to cause it to move. For this external force to move inert elements into patterns it must know how to 'manipulate', and know what a pattern is. There would have to be a consciousness (thought process) in the external force that manipulated the pool balls into this pattern, a thinking power moved them. This is the foundational question to our existence: How can inert lifeless matter demonstrate intentional, patterned, goal oriented behavior randomly? The answer is obviously it cannot. The inert lifeless atom is the building block of the physical universe that is moving in patterns and systems that are not just predictable and repeating (planetary orbits), but remain within the narrow parameters of this one universal order model. This requires there to be an external force manipulating these atoms, one that possesses a consciousness. A thinking power is controlling the atoms of the universe-God. Because this power is coming from a place we cannot measure or see, and because it must exist for the atoms to be behaving in this way, we have to now conclude that there is an invisible or spiritual dimension to the reality of our existence. It is not inaccurate to refer to this dimension as spiritual due to the fact that it possesses a consciousness, and the ability to project power. John 4:24: "God is a spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.". Genesis 1:1: "In the beginning God created heaven and the earth." Hebrews 11:3: "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God so that things which are seen are not made of things that do appear." The table is made of something that does not appear so it is made of something invisible, or too small to see. If invisible the table would be invisible, it is not. We know it is too small to see-atoms. The Bible has been teaching us about atoms for 2000 years, they are too small to appear. Genesis 2:7: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground (atoms),,and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (spirit), and man became a living soul.” This is why a person can think (consciousness) within their inert atom-made body, and have the ability to manipulate inert elements into patterns (build things). The spirit moves the body like the hand moves the glove. The Spirit of Life of God is within us. Colossians 1:27,28 "The whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of Glory." The body isn’t thinking. 1 Corinthians 3:16: "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the spirit of God dwelleth in you?". Ecclesiastes 3:21: “Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upwards, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?" Genesis: 6:17 "And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die." James 2:26: "For the body without the spirit is dead." The creatures of the world also have a spirit so they can think from within their inert atom-made bodies and manipulate inert elements into patterns (dens, nests). The spirit moves the body like the hand moves the glove. The whole of life on this planet, in the physical realm, is expressed in physical forms made of inert atoms that cannot think for themselves so they must be inhabited by a spirit of life to be active (alive). The fact that they 'grow' shows the hand of God at work. Growing is increasing mass and duplicating physical form and internal processes, not possible for inert lifeless material to do. Even plants have circulatory systems within them, movements that they, being composed by inert atoms, cannot muster themselves. Their roots bring up water from the soil, and their leaves produce carbohydrates through photosynthesis, using the sun for their sustenance. This entire ecosystem is a demonstration of God's omniscient power in action, as is the whole universe. Ephesians 4:6: "One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." But the time will come when the old earth will be destroyed to make way for the new, it is called the "Day of the Lord."
It was fantastic working with you, StarTalk! Yet another amazing interview with engaging conversations. For those eager to stay fully informed on Space, Science, and more, check out the link in the description. Feel free to reach out with any questions below!
@MauriJuarez-du4ji Keep your tinfoil hat on.
I believe what the dude means when he can’t believe that species although they gradually change have different chromosomes do you understand that the blueprint remains the same grass came first in genesis & science also agrees this earth was formless null void black lifeless essentially you read a vivid description of entropy or the Big Bang in genesis if evolutions true humans can be wiped out completely and as long as there’s some fish left, we can evolve again.
You could look at wolves and dogs and how they changed thousands of years and not realize evolution? we purposefully changed their appearance. Darwin was on an island he was obviously bored.
😂🤣 As long as Neil deGrasse Tyson never claims biological men and women are FEELINGS! 🤣😂 🙊🙉🙈
@MauriJuarez-du4ji i feel bad for people like u.
@MauriJuarez-du4jiah yes, pure Regardium.
As an Iranian, as someone who's lived under Islamic law, I have an immense respect for Dawkins. He's the guy that sees religion for what it really is. A tool to justify hate onto a fellow human. A tool of power and control for the ones holding power. Religion teaches you to believe and follow, science teaches you to doubt until proven. Bad things happen when you allow others to think for you. People who when questioned refer you to non-tangible beings who can't answer.
Science is starting to show signs of this too. Just give it time. Science and AI will be used for evil next.
Thank you for your honest opinion. Much respect to you.
As your position as an Iranian, is the Islam religion a tool to justify hate and power?
Very well said, thank you for this! Hope many will read it and understand it!👍
not true , that is only Christianity and Islam that do that .
Pinky toes are useful because when the room is dark and you have no source of light, your toes will help you find your furnitures by jamming into the edges of them. Very critical usage.
Facts 😂😂
Especially when it's cold and you know a second from then. It's over.
💀 😂
@@janechoy2073 I like when they're really cold and you actually have a half second before you're rolling on the floor.
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I can listen to Dawkins talk about evolution all day. I used to be a young earth creationist, and it's largely Dawkins' ability to communicate the elegance of evolution that has led me to where I am now. I am about to graduate from university with a degree in geoscience and am currently looking into paleontology graduate programs. Thanks to people like Dawkins and Tyson I've taken the first steps into a much larger world.
Welcome to an indeed much larger world of wonders and mysteries, we will try to solve the unknown as a species of the cosmos. We will fall and fail, but science will help us get up and try again.
Congratulations on your graduation and wishing you the best in the years to come. Common sense, logic and reason is a much better and safer way to live life
@@urduibyou cannot understand the universe, only a glimpse, and throough occult spirituality
@@paulzenco6182 ...huh 🤨
@@paulzenco6182 Because you have such a deep understanding of quantum physics and math, that you can prove your claim ? If you can do that you will win the Nobel prize and be the new Einstein for at least 1000 years. i ordered pizza and popcorn, and await your debunking of 200 years of cosmology and science. The stage is yours my friend.
Personally I think religion is why it took 19 centuries to figure this out
Evolution happens in stages… At their level of evolution religion seems to be the only thing that could be true! They had no scientific devices! No means to truly reason! So they turned to faith! At our level of evolution science can’t answer every question but it has taught us a lot! Who knows what we’ll believe in 300 years from now!!!
😂 religion was an impedance but probably not THE impedance
what about let's say the 2000 centuries previous to that? So we managed to figure all of that out only in the last 19 centuries.
You do realize that Islamic scientists and thinkers wrote about evolution before Darwin?
That's because you don't know very much.
So I listen to you and prof. Dawkins here, and the one thing that struck me the most was the moment he said we had to try and live as _if_ we were optimistic. But then we truly do! We owe it to those after us.
We are more than mere mortal individuals -- we are the bits in a cosmic stream of consciousness, travelling through time and space, and I think that is poetic. We are the dead. But we are also the unborn, as those now dead were us before we came to be. We are here to transfer the momentum, and doing so in the best way we can is our raison d'être.
"If we have hope in this world only , we are the most miserable of all men"
St Paul .
And yet all my hope is in this world and I don't feel miserable. Instead I feel that I belong. And that if we tried our best here and now, there would be future us too. And if those tried their best -- there could be us through the end of time. And maybe, just maybe, we could find mates one day -- others, who just like us, walked their path with a strong sense of direction. In this world.
@@blurandomnumbercall upon the Lord while He can be found. You don't want to end up alone before your maker rejecting Him. We are eternal beings, either eternal life found through God's Son Yeshua or eternal torment, choice is ultimately yours.
With no purpose and an inevitable end, Life is utterly pointless- if Dawkins is to be believed.
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There is so much poetry and awe in science. Physics was my first love. I recall in my first year when I was taking physics, chemistry, and biology together, and I walked out one day and heard a bird singing on an electrical wire. I could almost see the beauty of the interference patterns of the resonant waves that carried the bird song to my ear, and feel the electrons traversing the wires. The math of the energy of fusion delivering photons from the sun across the solar system at incredible speed danced in my head with the aerodynamics of pressure differentials that allowed the jet high above to zoom across the sky. It was a moment of ecstatic revelation requiring only the mind altering force of a little math and science.
50+ years later I cherish that memory.
For me, science & math only magnify exponentially the awe & wonder of the world around me.
Only science, math and critical thinking makes our lives wonderful.
@@TheScentofmusicI'm not sure I'd say "only" but I'd certainly say it underpins my appreciation for reality.
@@TheScentofmusicyou forgot creativity and emotional intelligence
@@TheScentofmusic Don't forget the most important one, social media. (Just kidding)
Lovely
I can listen to Richard Dawkins speak all day. I have thoroughly studied his entire literary collection. He is an undervalued individual with extraordinary intellectual capacity, serving as both a great scientific thinker and an adept inquisitor in our era.
How did you go about doing this? I ask because I too love listening to him speak, so I’d love to either hear or read most of his catalogue.
He gets bodied by Christian theologians constantly
What are his scientific inventions or contributions? He is a commentator, a critic, a fool
@@Nutterbutter123 Does he? I have seen a lot of debates with him and various Christian apologists / theologians in my time, and never seen any of them make any compelling arguments.
He's famously not strong on philosophy, but honestly neither are these theologians and apologists.
@@Nutterbutter123
No he doesn't 😂
He has evidence based truth while apologists have gibberish nonsense about proven myths and fables with added lies.
Taking solace in watching this on a day it feels that America has abandoned reason. Thank you to the both of you for being such outstanding educators.
Same here.
This explains why you like Dawkins.
@@richardevans560We like him for his ability to be rational and warm character.
@@richardevans560it would explain why they like Dawkins: for being such an outstanding educator.
Lost its mind, touch some grass. What I mean is get off social media for your mental health. You will feel betervwhen you accept you have no power. ✌️
I was very young when i started listening to dawkins, and his thoughts on religion and science and as an indian kid born in hindu family, it was fresh and astonishing. I feel lucky that i was able to understand and come out of religious beliefs and accept science. And not just me but my younger brother, cousins too. Now in our family, we the youngest generation are almost all agnostic and rest of the scientists helped us love science even more.
Well done 👍🏾
So you are still a Hindu right?
Good for you and your family. I love Dawkins as well. I thought I understood evolution, and then I read The Ancestors Tale, and learned so much more.
@@wespeakforthetrees same. I have also recently read the speculative evolutionary fiction "all tomorrows" by nemo ramjat and 'blindsight' by peter watts. Both blew me away
@@shanu3009 Okay, I will have to check out All Tomorrows and Blindsight.
Just thinking how lucky we are to be watching and listening to two articulate very intelligent people talking.
Intelligent people be like: I got a newton finger puppet here.
your life must be absolutely boring to think that your are ''lucky'' to be watching two guys discussing...
@@benoitmetail8727 I do hope your life improves to such a point whereby you don't have to be such a disappointing and miserable contributor. Go have a quiet word with yourself about why you would want be so disparaging.
@@benoitmetail8727 Go somewhere quiet and have a word with yourself for having a need to post disparaging remarks.
Indeed
My top two scientists and educators
I live in a very dark and backward society
And your videos are the only things that keeping me alive in the 21st century lol
Thank you so much for your work ❤
Female atheist from yemen
May you stand strong and stay safe, fellow skeptic! Much love from the USA!
WOW we need more of your kind in AMERICA, hope you can make it out here some day and leave the darkness and backwardness of your primitive Islamic society behind MUCH LOVE LADY🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
@@joegordon-p6x I really want to come to the USA, I believe it has much more control on the Islamic ideologies than European countries
Unfortunately I don't think I will ever be able to come without help, but thanks so much for your support
@@mikehatalovsky881 Thank you ❤
@@Anonymous_Alien11 i wish i had the power to help bring you and anyone else who shares your views to USA, maybe someone reading can help, hang in there beautiful person Sadly USA lets in plenty of muslim fanatics its a SHAME on AMERICA and very dangerous to our society, i am hoping this current regime in charge is swept out of power soon and we make the changes to allow ONLY YOUR KIND to enter
"Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings." Victor Stenger
Neither of those things happened, most likely.
@FedeM_Reaper789bruh, you’re the type that don’t touch grass for sure.
Bahahaha that’s great
I've been a trucker for 24yrs. When I first heard your podcast back in the day, I was hooked. I bought your book Death By Black Hole. Mind blown. That was the first book I ever read cover to cover after I had already read the Bible. My second book was The God Delusion. That led me down a path to where I am now. I'd always had questions that no one could answer. So, I started reading books from the 4 horsemen. I think that I'm well rounded now. Thanks to you both. 👊🏾
Neil's a puppet of the establishment he wants you to trans your kids out
So are you atheist now?
@@creativesource3514 I think I've always been. Just needed confirmation.
@@truckingandtraveling I knew I was atheist since I was around 6 years old and when I was 4 I told my Mum Santa Claus cannot be real.😂
The dead sea scrolls by John Marco Allegro. May be of interest to you
The energy in this interview is fantastic. Watching Neil shed 40 years talking to his role model, super cool. And even though Dawkins is a giant, he's so gracious and charming. This will be a classic.
@FredCaillou452 lol..why, they were talking about you lmafo..
@FredCaillou452 Thinking theology is special is sorta silly. It's no different than having a PhD in Marvel comics. Very interesting, but a complete waste when you can't justify belief in a specific religion. If you think they can, then I have some bad news for you. Most philosophers and physicists are not theists lol for very solid reasons at that.
@FredCaillou452science allowed man to take flight. Theology has allowed them to fly into buildings.
@@Glasstable2011 Christian theology is basis for modern society. Almost all the greatest scientists were christians (Newton, Faraday, Tesla, Pascal etc.).
Comparing christianity and islamic radicaIs is ironic at best.
Sorry, but atheism and darwinism brought nothing to this world nor helped civilization.
@@Glasstable2011 All the greatest scientists that built modern world were Christian.
Tesla, Einsten, Newton, Faraday, Pascal, Benz, Cugnot...
Richard reminds me of a really brilliant friend I had who just recently passed away, and from taking his life at that. It's been hard. He was so well spoken, but mostly reserved and silent. He was very humorous, and at times it would just catch you off gaurd, he had little patience with anything he considered juxtaposing truth, and even Dawkins' laugh is gentle and genuine much like his was.. I miss him so much, and I really wish I could have seen my friend succeed further in his passion like I know he could have. He really was an amazing person with a great mind, and I'm sorry he'll never get to share it with anyone. 😞
I'm sorry for your friend !
At least he got to share it with you.
True, Richard looks fake and very stressed. People like that can easily take their lives cause they are fake and illusion. Stress evolution. We had a guy like that, always acting bigger than himself and acting like a genius but he too took his life.
@@Davkal-h5n What a miserable interpretation of what the poster said. He did not suggest that Richard Dawkins is fake, nor very stressed. He only said that his deceased friend shared some similar admirable characteristics with Richard. Have some sensitivity.
You can continue his legacy and share his passion
Prof Neil-De-grass has become the great sales man of science. Not just astrophysics. The way He communicates the wonders of the world. Carl Segan would rest easy knowing his good work continues❤
He's a fraud. Dawkin's is legit though.
I'm from Turkey, and I admire people like Dawkins very much.
Although we don't live under islamic law, religion is very favored and things like evolution are taboo by Erdogan's islamist ideas.
Dawkins gives very convincing answers to questions about life. Good man.
Turkey could be one of the most important countries in the world in the future - hopefully the Islamic ideas lose foothold
Du hast „was geht ab“ in deiner Bio lol multilingual it seems
@@rethgual8227crazy er spricht einfach deutsch und englisch
@@FahradPraktikant6969 ja, einer der wenigen auf diesem Planeten
one of the catastrophes that came to Turkey is Erdogan and his out of date islamic philosophies and sharia, and i mean he was sticking until recently to lowering the interest rate while the economy is collapsing and inflation is sky high, making the damage even worse, just because a man in the desert of arabia 1500 years ago told him that interest is taboo and that his God doesnt like it. I am afraid that average Turks gonna pay a heavy price for this crap.
Richard Dawkins is touring North America, the UK & EU, talking about his latest book, religion, life on Earth and Beyond. The events will include a Q&A and a limited meet-and-greet. You can get your tickets here: richarddawkinstour.com
"Richard Dawkins claimed the students protesting against 'Israel' are motivated by anti-Semitism."
I grew up on Mr. Dawkins youtube's speeches in universities, now I also have StarTalk by Mr. ND Tyson.
i am not a robot . lol
Awesome guest!
I recently learnt why prestige scientists avoid getting into politics at any cost. Here's why & there's a video documenting Mr. Dawkins reaction when asked about the recent events at many universities.
As I grew in Turkish-type Muslim culture and my interest in scientific subjects increased, I started to question belief systems. And I realized that we have been living in the dream world for generations, thank you very much to everyone who tells scientific content like you and enlightens people, I hope we will stop fighting wars like are close cousins, with our developing technology, we can reach the level of type 1 civilization as humanity.
Now go and do justice for koshogi
@@BobbyBrown-wc5ty what is koshogi?
Jamal Ahmed khushquji 😢
@@BobbyBrown-wc5ty It's a terrible event. Such events happen when managers are corrupt.
Tis why Jesus said love thy neighbor even show sympathy to your enemies…..he tried to steer us in the right direction…arrogant greedy narcissistic mankind just wont listen
As a born again believer, I truly have immense respect and inspiration for the thoughtfulness of Dawkins. Although our beliefs may differ spiritually, physically we come to an agreement that science is the poetry of existence. Much love, Neil.
Uh, Fyre, we need Richard to keep us grounded in terra firma because his eyes and mind are focused on the material and physical. We have an advantage over him inspite of his vast learning because we recognize the non physical but very real sid
side of existence known as the metaphysical or unobstructed universe or world, the shadow counterpart of the physical universe or world.
@@conradbulos6164 I’m leaning more and more that there are no parallels and that we are in the 1 of 1 universe
Dawkins is such an exceptional educator. He can take a incredibly complex concept and explain it in a straightforward way. The human race needs more people like him.
We lost a giant when Carl Sagan passed 😢
@@john-nx4xn agreed, Sagan was an exceptional individual too.
so the racism, bigotry and war-mongering doesnt bother you even a little? a smidge?
@@bobbyologun1517 who are you talking about? Dawkins or Sagan? And provide evidence for your accusations.
@@marneper if I provide evidences including in his own words will you accept it? that is, let evidence not faith guide you
The older I get, the more I appreciate these talks/podcasts. Neil is a great host/questionaire. You can tell he has alot of respect for Mr. Dawkins. 👍
Amen
But Neil would be nothing without CHUCK... where's chuck ?
I think Neil is always very careful to say things in a way that doesn't make fun of anyone who disagrees with any particular point, and that care encourages people to challenge their own beliefs better than ridicule or dismissal ever does. He loves the scientific process, the gradual improvement of our understanding of the universe, and he loves sharing that enthusiasm.
Chuck might be out doing stand-up comedy.
@@davidandrews2822 typical devlish behavior
Holy mother. Not even 10 minutes in and I hear the most profound thing I've ever heard in my life. Bravo sir.
What profound thing did you hear?
Elaborate
so what
Troll
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Despite how ignorant the both of these men make me feel about myself. They are still two of my most favorite people that I could listen to and learn from all day long. My ancestor was Dr. Gideon Lincecum. He was close friends of Dr. Charles Darwin. Who also was nternationally famed as a botanist, naturalist, author, veteran of the war of 1812 and a great American pioneer.
Imagine Neil telling you that your book was his inspiration to write.
What a moment
@@Somniator7both clowns in your worse horror dreams
Neil does not know what a woman is
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People rarely mention Dan Dennett’s book Breaking The Spell: Religion As A Natural Phenomenon, but I think it is an essential book on philosophy. Especially Dennett’s survey of “Belief in Belief” - truly comprehensive and brilliant work.
What are the criticisms of Dennet's book?
I happened upon Dawkins speaking on a tv show many many years ago. I had still considered myself christian despite knowing evolution was a real thing. But that show alteted my life forever. It sent me down a deep rabbit hole on religion and the past and science and truth. And it was in that rabbit hole where I discovered how when and why christianity was made up and how it was related to much older religions.
Now I am a devout anti-theist.
Thank you Richard Dawkins for exposing me to information and inspiring many years of research.
The truth did set you free.
Which much older religions?
@@linzlove paganism, hinduism, judaism etc etc. Lot's of little local religions and belief systems can be found in christianity. Christianity is about as original as Twilight.
@@ButBigger42 thank you. I'm interested because having looked into the evidence I see Christianity following on directly from Judaism. I also studied into Hinduism and I'm not convinced that's any older than Judaism. And it seems that the existence of other religions at the same time as Judaism is well documented. I don't see why that would undermine Christianity.
@@linzlove all I can say is study a bit more. Hinduism is much older. Some of the texts date back 8-10,000 years ago. Several thousand years before judaism. Christianity wouldn't come about until around 1700 years ago. The bible wasn't even canonized till 300-400 AD.
The first non bible writer about christ wasn't even born til after the alleged crucifiction. And then there's the fact that the Romans at the time kept pretty good records and nothing jesus was alleged to do was recorded including starting a riot.
The information is out there if you actually dig into it.
I never actually wondered
how the theory of evolution through natural selection came so late only in the 19th century. Now you said it, i can't unthink it. It really at its base level isn't too complex to notice.
Yeah I've never thought about it either but it does seem strange how late the theory was developed I guess religion was so ingrained within us that we didn't bother to think of an alternative. That plus the consequences of saying that God might not exist at that time was being burnt at the steak.
What an amazing tribute to Dr Richard Dawkins; a man who cannot contain his love for science and is compelled to share it with everyone.
I read this with rick's sarcastic voice and it made this comment hilarious.
I would love to hear Dr Dawkins comes up with a explanation on the creation of the first cell. The last I have heard from him on it was still a reliance on magical self-replicating molecules.
@@scoobydoo9579 first of all they probably aren't magical. Just because you don't understand something doesn't men you should resort to calling it magic. we know that DNA and RNA is a self replicating chemical and it isn't magical.
second of all, evolution is an entirely separate theory from abiogenesis so your comment is completely unrelated to everything they discussed in this video. They didn't mention abiogenesis at all and they didn't need to so they could talk about evolution because they are unrelated!
@@AdamHernandez4012 They are talking about evolution versus religion. Religion talks about creation and doesn't care much about micro evolution. Macro evolution without creationism "is completely unrelated" to religion. Talking about evolution without starting from cell genesis is such an incomplete theory that should not be talked about with religion at all. DNA and RNA could self-replicate, but how did that come to be? Why did they decide to form? Nucleotides do not form on its own from its components. Yes, I purposely referred to abiogenesis "theory" as "magic" in exactly the same manner that Dr Dawkins used that term repeatedly in The God Delusion.
@@scoobydoo9579 actually if you read the title it says science, religion, and evolution. Not just a battle over religion so they are allowed to talk about science and evolution.
I’m not sure what you meant about macro and micro evolution but they are allowed to talk about more stuff than religion.
Also a theory doesn’t need to have everything about the universe to be complete. Evolution only talks about the changes in species over long periods of time through natural selection. That is all there is to evolution. Abiogenesis is an entirely separate theory that isn’t related and isn’t in the title of the video. (Science is mentioned but that’s really broad)
Its 1 in the morning, i have to go to work in 4 hours, I could listen to this man for the last few hours i have to sleep. Its refreshing and reassuring there are people like him out there. The voice not just of reason but of common sense.
Would love for Dr Dawkins to explain the creation of the first cell. It is so incomplete to have a belief system that does not account for the most basic unit of life -- the first cell. While I give other PhDs like Neil Tyson a pass since they are not biologists, this is Dr Dawkins' core discipline. Why is he stopping before having an answer?
@@scoobydoo9579 I think Richard Feynman puts it best when a reporter asked him to explain magnetism. He illustrates how difficult I is to answer these types of questions depending on who is asking them. th-cam.com/video/MO0r930Sn_8/w-d-xo.html
@@scoobydoo9579 You are welcome to say God created the first cell 3 billion years ago. But everything about evolution that happened after is a fact.
The joy this channel brings a lonely, depressed, person that has an absence of intellectual conversation in their life, is priceless. “A self-licking ice cream cone” had me laughing nearly as hard as the ‘double rainbow’ and ‘pinky toe’ portions. Thank you.
Glad you found joy in it friend :)
Hey man, sorry to hear you are lonely.
The world is pretty crazy right now and mental health has suffered across the board.
Just know, I appreciate you and your active, searching mind.
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Kia Kaha
i get it
I can relate very closely. You just said what I think every day.
I'm here with you my friend
One of my favorite things about hearing your interviews is the book recs I get out of them. If I connect to the guest I immediately search out their published works to add to my own modest library. Great interview!
Thanks!
Thank YOU!
Compulsive viewing when 2 great minds come together
Nah
2 great minds that think you came from a monkey... They definitely have their latest booster😂
they are not great minds , they lack wisdom for one . they both said that we do not need philosophy as science has all of the answers. ( a dangerous and silly statement ) and Neil is so intellectually dishonest he is ok with science and the military being inextricable linked despite the cost to human life yet he claims to be a humanist.
Also check out his video on men becoming women , and the amount of illogical bs he spouts for a so called scientist
@@genore1993nah to your nah
There was only one great mind here, so not sure what you are talking about.
I can't believe I came find out Dennett passed away through this clip. He was one of my favorite modern scientific thinkers, and he helped influence much of what I understand today. RIP to one of the greatest.
Why should he rest in peace as he is just a collection of digital information of which he was the molecular machine, as per Mr Dawkins assessment of humanity. Darwinism says he is dead, has no spirit and will not live again.
The dead part is true, but in time he will live In time he will be forgotten and what will his life mean in a million years?
Rest in peace is a pointless phrase to an evolutionist with no creator.
@@jamiestonhamperhaps the phrase is a term of acknowledgment and respect without the strict and uncharitable meaning you yourself have applied to it.
@@jamiestonhamrest in peace does not mean that a dead human will rest in peace literally, it means that their memories will hopefully be peaceful to the people still alive, psychologically.
Robin Williams is dead and has no idea Will Smith shamelessly tried to re-do the Genie in Aladdin.
Robin is not resting in peace in our minds because of that.
@@Arcexey that is incorrect. 😂😂 Rest in peace originally comes from Jesus when he tries to explain to his disciples, death is like sleeping. The dead are conscious of nothing, they are at peace and will be resurrected when he comes again. When Lazarus died he said he was sleeping.
@@jamiestonham orrrr... it's a way of paying respect.
I respect Richard Dawkins and Neil deGrasse Tyson for the smartness and integrity and kindness ❤❤
Thank you both. It is an absolute pleasure to listen to you every time. I am humbled by your wisdom.
As an Iranian ex-Muslim, I adore Dawkins. After I lost my religion, I used his books and interviews to learn how to debate with religious nutcases. Can't compare this interview with the one with Piers Morgan.
Lots of love and respect to you both. ❤️
Morgan is religious
Richard Dawkins, in the past ten years I’ve listened to many of your books narrated passionately by yourself. I always get engrossed by the science you teach, the arguments you make, and the dignity and ferocity with which you define your pursuit
Neil degrades Tyson, whom I spent so many hours, listening to your podcasts and videos, enriching me with knowledge and curiosity, what more could I have asked for on my birthday from your show
Thank you 💎
You can edit your post to correct spelling.
degrades is a phenomenal misspelling.
Disable autocorrect now.
LMAO my boy Neil degrades tyson
@@StrobeFireStudios 😭
This was amazing, I believe Richard Dawkins to be one of my favourite people. A true British gentlemen and beautiful educator.
Agreed
He definitely humanises the oxford manner
The bigotry racism and eugenics don’t put you off at all
If you are not vegan, don't even talk about logic or morals 👉 Dominion (2018)
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The origin of life is one of the great unanswered questions. As of today, there is no known mechanism for life emerging from non-life. And, no one has observed and documented the origin of life from non-life. The mechanisms in the living cell for storing and retrieving information, synthesizing proteins from this information, and coordinating all of life’s functions are astounding and far more complex than anything that human-kind has engineered. Evolution describes how life changes over time, but not how life originated.
Chemistry. :-)
@@lepidoptera9337 there is still no proof. Until "we" can recreate a living being from inanimate matter, abiogenesis is a hypothesis
That is not 100% true. If creating life from non-life (abiogenesis) was a 10 step process, we have steps 1, 2, 5, 7, 9, and 10. Just because we are missing some of the steps does not mean we will never fill in those gaps, nor does it mean that we have not observed many of the steps in a lab or in nature.
So, you are saying that we know 60% of a process that is not known? I’m interested to know which steps of this process are confirmed empirically.
@@dwoodbury65 The natural synthesis of all known biomolecules has been empirically observed. We have not found a single molecule that requires a large eternal man in sandals to blow into clay. ;-)
I appreciate that Dawkins does not suffer fools. There is a level where you can only be so nice telling somebody they are wrong.
There's no bigger fool than Dawkins.
That conversation felt like 54 seconds rather than 54 minutes! It was inspiring to see that even as brilliant and knowledgeable as Dr. Tyson is, the obvious excitement he displayed at the opportunity to learn, as opposed to being the one disseminating knowledge and information for others, was a rare treat to witness. It was great to see the spark in his eye and almost giddy enthusiasm for the opportunity to speak to someone who has such a deep command for a subject matter and well contemplated perspective on his area of expertise as Dr. Dawkins.
Again for the people in the back: Richard Dawkins invented the word "meme". How badass
how
@@pewlivepie5006 By using it in his book "The Selfish Gene" (1976)
I'm in the back of the bus. Say what? 😮
On a natural level, the idea that brand new information can be added to DNA to get the diversity of life we have today has never gone outside the realm of a philosophical belief -- a statement based on all the data and research we have done on DNA. One of the reasons their has been so so much research on DNA is to try and prove that what Darwin said was right. This is one of the many arguments you can use to debunk Darwinism . And as a Christine , debating Dawkins on religion would be easy.
Bro is the reason we have dank memes. He was the OG Cowbelly 😂.
it's perplexing that for hundreds of years genuinly smart people still don't understandt that "the existence of God is a question of faith and not of science"
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This is one of the finest conversations between these two scientists.
Love the ending message, much respect and admiration for both of you.
Why
53 minutes was not long enough gentlemen.
before natural selection occurred where does the digital information (genes) comes from ?
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so true
Men of that age need breaks sir , bathroom or otherwise 😂
dawkins is 103 years old
Bruh he ain’t 103
If we were designed. I want my money back😂
I don't think we get a warranty
You were designed on Monday
@@chiendinh-je2xiespecially the females. Ugh the whole pregnancy/childbirth thing. Talk about lousy design!
Exactly. I have ankylosing spondylitis and I want my money back multiplied because this design is awful.
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Listening to two great contemporary scientists is a great privilege to me. I’m really lucky living in their time and see them and listen to them live, and reading their books too.
I think Neil would be a much better communicator if he did more:
Ask a question and sit mostly silent until the other person fully finishes their train of thought.
As opposed to interjecting often and always wanting to talk about the things he wants to talk about.
It's a conversation not a classroom.
@@KodyCQYep And I'm pointing out how most other people are able to have those conversations in a better, less self-centered, way. I am far from the first person to point out Neil's tendency to make every conversation about himself and cut others off constantly, in order to talk about the things he wants to talk about.
Get out of here with your useless, unproductive one-liner lmao.
I totally agree with you. I was anticipating for Dawkins to answer the questions thoroughly but Neil keeps interjecting his thoughts on the same question not allowing Dawkins to fully finish his answer.
Neil is also an interesting communicator and I enjoy listening to what he has to say. That said, Neil can talk all he wants on his podcast every day, but in this moment he has Dawkins sitting right there, and it seems a terrible waste not to let the good Doctor get more words in. If Neil ever reads this, I urge him to "gratefully accept the rebuke".
@@Hot_Souppless we forget, this is HIS show
32:01 I think I completely understand what Richard is getting at with "the poetry of reality". He's not talking about cringy words people write when requested by a newspaper. He's talking about the sublime and subtle ecstasy of coming to know and understand the truth about things. How that feeling can be so much richer and expansive than any sacred feeling based on believing a fiction. I believe that is what he means regarding what he's trying to envoke in his books, and he does manage to bring his readers along with this feeling superbly from my reading.
Perhaps I'm susceptible to it though and others aren't so much, to some factual stuff is necessarily dry and dull. But I've always sought truth as a deep personal spiritual goal, akin to others understanding their religion perhaps, so for me when I feel I'm approaching truth about something there's a quiet ecstasy in that, as the mental clouds and dust clear.
I understand you Amy, i.o.w., science informs better and more realistic religious constructs while religion professes "moral truths" all scientist do not all agree upon nor seem they ever will.
Neil. PLEASE let Richard finish his sentences and stories.
He doesn’t let anyone finish their sentences or stories 😩
I'm 10 minutes in and don't notice it yet. What's a timestamp.for when he's interrupting?
_The Ancestors' Tale_ is my favorite book of Dawkins. It is a book to savor, chapter by chapter.
The one man I would have wanted to hear more than Richard Dawkins especially on startalk would be Christopher hitchens who like Dawkins is a truly astute sadly passed away but Richard is marvelous
I love hitchens too! However, he was not a scientist so he probably wouldn't be on this show even if he were alive.
@@nickeandersson3435 There are non-scientists on the show from time to time. He had a lot to say on politics, literature and language.
Next on StarTalk, Sceance edition
@@atomichippy2could u imagine talking to a dead Newton 😮
@@nickeandersson3435 Katy Perry has been on StarTalk and she isn't a scientist.
Funny story, when I was younger Richard Dawkins came to my community in Stamford Hill to talk about religion. I grew up orthodox and thought he was provocative. Later in life, I found my brother reading the god delusion in his room on the day of atonement. We got into a debate and he made a deal with me. If I read the origins of species and wasn’t convinced that the argument for evolution was just a little more logical than the Old Testament that he would never argue with me again. I took the challenge and since left the community altogether. It had been a wild ride and it felt like I was blindly living life up until then. That was almost 20 years ago
While i can agree that you can change the species through natural selection Darwin theory does not explain how elementary cell that consist of many cleverly engineered and put together components so that without any of them cell could not actually exist would develop from something simpler? You cant have engine running without timing belt, valves, pistons and throttle all at the same time. Same way cell without vital components would never had chance to evolve. Think about it.
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You need to do some more reading other than Answers in Genesis.
@@fabianmckenna8197 you need to do better than insulting opponents if you want to be taken seriously.
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It's about expanding your knowledge .............
I was brought up Christian with huge emphasis on church, religious studies etc but as I read more, I discovered things that didn't add up. Answers in Genesis was touted as an explanation and while it does go some way to explaining biblical events, it does tend to gloss over problems.
There are so many books, scientific papers, seminars etc out there that I found it impossible to ignore evolution. Where the original spark for life came from, we don't know but scientists are still working on that one.
If you find that insulting then that's your own problem.
@@fabianmckenna8197 knowledge is a spiral. you came from very simplistic explanation given in Bible which of course doesnt explain it well. Then you fell into scientific approach which looks much more rigorous to you and it is. If you dive deeper into it you will find many insights that life would not be able to exist without too many coincidences to the point that you cannot explain world around us without introducing creator whatever you call it. This world was designed and not just randomly evolved out of garbage.
can you just imagine?... how much more advanced civilized nations would be today if religion hadn't halted the progression of science
What a beautiful episode. The closing remarks by Neil were so touching and befitting for Professor Dawkins, too. ❤
Wow. These closing remarks brought me to tears.
“What are they doing to our water supply” had me dying bro 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ok 'bro'
I put a comment on that video, "It's dihydrogen monoxide, beware that stuff has killed millions!
@@rembrandt972ify 🙆
Thank you for the in depth interview with Richard Dawkins. I have heard about him, but haven't read any of his books. Because of your interview I now feel compelled to order his books, wrote all the titles you mentioned, and will order several today. Your contributions of exposing us to the excitement of the sciences is indeed your greatest achievement for us average folks, who just need a little well intentioned push to an otherwise seemingly secret life of our scientific community. Thanks
I also am more compelled to read some Dawkins after this.
He has also done some great programming, documentaries etc. Taken part in plenty of debates and also hosts some Royal Institutions lectures.
"The Magic of Reality: How We Know What's Really True" is a great general science book, as he covers a number of advanced scientific fields. What makes it great is he starts from an easy point of reference, like the chapter "What is a Rainbow", and uses that easy starting point to walk you up to how we know the universe is expanding.
Richard Dawkins is fantastic, he is one of the most intelligent professors and scientists that there has ever been. and because of him many years ago I made the decision to become an Atheist. there was no way I couldn't have.
Richard Dawkins once discussed evolution with a young earth creationist named Howard Conder, this must be about a decade ago if not more.
Howard asked questions, Dawkins answered them in very clear detail, and afterwards Howard just said something like "Oh, I'm sorry, I was just thinking about the book of Genesis" and didn't appear to have listened to a single word Dawkins had said. The look on his face said it all.
That night when I fell asleep, I had a dream that I met Richard Dawkins in an airport, and he just looked depressed at dealing with that kind of person, so I went over and gave him a hug.
I don't agree with Richard Dawkins on everything, but on most things I think I do. Certainly on evolution.
What about evolution do you agree
@@Rugerous I'm not sure I understand your question.
I agree that evolution is the natural process of random mutations and genetic recombinations filtered through selection pressures, which accounts for the diversity of life on earth.
I agree that all life on earth descends from a single-celled ancestor, and that we are a subspecies of african ape, specifically we share a relatively recent common ancestor with chimpamzees, and that human beings originated in Africa in the great rift valley.
That everything about us can be explained through entirely natural processes without needing to invoke any deities or magic.
@@Lleanlleawrg I guess I'm asking why you believe what you just said. Why do you believe there is evolution through mutations and natural selection if there is nothing to show thousands of different birds wings in transition, only the end result along with every animal and plant ever and the fact that every changed animal from the ape to human has a better chance of being seen than the ape, with nothing to show inbetween. Those are just questions everyone has and I'm trying to figure it out
@@Rugerous Aha, I think I understand why you're confused, but I'll try to explain:
Evolution is a blind ongoing process. It doesn't have an end-goal in mind. It's not like it's following some sort of development roadmap.
What you see as end-results are actually a transitional species. You and I are living, breathing transitional species right now. We just don't know what our remote descendants will be like, because of the time scales.
It's not like evolution predicts we'll find the fossil of a creature that has the face of a fish and the hind legs of a giraffe or something wild like that.
Your mom and dad are transitional between your grandparents and you. The changes are very slight, and you're all "end products" at the time you're born.
What evolution predicts is that very small unguided changes will randomly occur - through recombining the DNA of both parents, and any random mutations that may occur.
Maybe you think there's such a thing as "micro evolution" and "macro evolution", but that's not a thing. It's all just evolution.
@@Rugerous Spoken like someone who doesn't understand evolution. Every species that ever existed including us are transitional species, we're _always_ changing little by little. How drastic the changes are depends on time. 500-2000 years ago our Ancestors would be slightly different from us but not too much and that is true for the future 500-2000 years. Change that to hundreds of thousands or millions of years and it's easy to understand how vast changes can come about.
Then of course there's also the fact that if you ask the medical community they will literally tell you evolution is the foundational pillar for all of modern biology. All your doctors follow it's rules even if they don't personally believe it because it works and it's part of their job.
It's a delightful time to have the memeful astrophysicist and the father of meme himself together.
Explain?
@@jasonzbell there are many memes of Tyson on the internet and Dawkins coined the term meme in his book the selfish gene back in 1976
Auntie Meme.
Indeed. A Meme Lord and a Meme Father came together for a nice talk
It's nice to hear scientific facts about ourselves over religion
Dawkins to spend eternity being interned in a chapel
quite a revelation!
God is the greatest scientist that will ever be
Yeahhh and Zeus is the greatest electrician.
@@STRAIGHTEDGEJAKE😂 You literally have zero evidence or proof for your claim 🙄. Just brainwashed nonsense and a ridiculous fairytale book.
@@STRAIGHTEDGEJAKE Then why is the science in the Bible all wrong?
So I want to start this out by saying I am far from an intellectual sophisticated thinker, in my opinion. I don't believe that I'm ignorant or ill-educated. My point is I love Neil Degrassi! He gets you to grasp thoughts that most people wouldn't I just love to listen to his theories, his understanding, his scientific knowledge. It opens my mind to so many things I NEVER would have even thought of or been in the realm. But he speaks to something my kind and heart can digest and learn from. I would have loved to have him as a professor! There are a few great minds left in this world I feel and I wish more people would value their intellect and understanding. I fear our world has come to a point where being dumb down is easier. But he makes it fun, understandable, comprehensive.. we need more ppl making. Philosophy, science, geology, mathematics, ECT FUN! So thank you☺️
Wow. I think this is my favorite StarTalk yet. Well done.
Thank you so much gentlemen . ❤from🇨🇦
I always delighted in the thought that natural selection made the most sense to me as a kid and as an adult. Just stating that something was created instead of changing over time was rather short sighted and dull. I love evolution and it makes and has a complete history. For me there is no reason for religion at all.
Great humble brag.
Except the problem is that we live in a reality in which things can both be created and also change over time. It makes sense for evolution to have a complete history, but I don't think we've came anywhere close to scratching the surface of it considering we don't even know where single celled organisms originated from or what their purpose even is.
All these conversation both of them is having on evolution is an outdated theory. Theory of evolution came about at a time when scientists thought that life can spring out from anywhere. And when Louis Pasteur came along it was proven untrue. And when DNA was discovered, no one can tell where that mind boggling code came from.
People talking about evolution is considered old school. They can walk away from their own lies unless they admit the truth.
Well, good luck with that, Christ can lead you into truth, He does it for me and millions of others.🙂
@@snowyrox3331where science stops, God is.
I must say, this video was very enlightening. First I have immense respect for Niel de-Grass Tyson both as an educator and as a person, Second my introduction to Richard Dawkins was oddly enough through music. Yes, Nightwish and the albums Human Nature, Endless Forms Most Beautiful, and Yesterwynde. I thought I understood the meaning of the albums until hearing this conversation. Now I understand! Thank You.
Neils point starting at 3:28 "It speaks to the bias that we have observing nature" speaks volumes regarding the fundamental debate over design.
it goes beyond religion. I've been doing science for almost 30 years and I can attest that, as scientists, what we want to know is biased by what we already know and getting away from that is what separates good science from the bad
Also it’s just plain cyclic reasoning. Of course any rabbit 🐇 is a quintessential rabbit, because that’s what we’ve deemed to be called a rabbit. Of course it can be nothing else.
It goes even deeper than that. The language we use form how we are able to reason about the world around us. If you don't have the necessary words to describe an idea it is much harder to even come up with it in the first place. That is something that the churches have understood and they are doing their utmost to form the language, and with that the thought process, to make it harder to question their dogma. If one listens to how they describe their view of the world and notes the words they tend to use it becomes quite obvious. Two good examples are "believing in science" and to quote Ricky Gervais: "Why is there not a word for not believing in fairies?".
The same tendencies can be observed in some media and the words they choose. I have noted a trend towards more polarizing and more dramatic language which in turn forms how the public tend to view the world. The selection of what gets reported and what doesn't get reported is of course an important factor as well. Seen from the other side of the pond the US seems to be particularly obvious in this regard.
@@aarias99 Well put. Given the observable evidence of the appearance of fine-tuned Physical Constants, Dawkins says it's a "preference" whether we believe there's a Mind behind it all...or not. He "prefers" there not to be a Mind, i prefer to believe there's an Intelligence. ( Not a Religious God though!).
To suggest animals (including humans) evolved by natural selection instead of Devine creation would have been considered heresy until the last few centuries. I think religion is the culprit, as to why it took so long for someone to come up with natural selection
But something came from nothing?
@zutzun8230 No just you.
@@zutzun8230Say it with me, "we don't know." That's it. That's where it stops. Is that so hard to accept for you? The answer could be anything, not just God or no God, it could literally be anything or nothing. There's literally no proof of God, let alone proof that he is omnipresent, all-powerful, all-knowing. That's just people making stuff up. But there are still lots of contradictions in every existing religion. Even if we don't know where everything came from, we still know religions are simply wrong.
@@asdilari never said anything about god or a god. How strange.
@@zutzun8230 I did say it. What's wrong with saying it? I wanted to give an explanation (with God as an example) of why we don't know if something came from something or something came from nothing.
How do I spend my mornings, you may ask. Watching brilliant people having a chat about the most complicated aspects of life ever discussed. Thanks.
Good morning,
That's crazy! I was going to ask you that very question!🤯
Have a great day 🥸
33:56 this is one of the most influential books in my life! Thank you so much for that Professor Dawkins!
The reason it took until the nineteenth century is religion.
It begs the question if anybody came up with the idea and they were silenced.
100% correct
No, it is because no one thought of such a ridiculous idea
@@Aditya-dw4kzNatural selection is a proven fact. What's ridiculous is how religions stifle science and knowledge.
@@fehryn7369 Natural selection exists, but it isn't the cause of the origin of humans
as a Christian I can appreciate the opinions of Mr.Dawkins and Mr.Tyson. Earlier this year we started in Genesis and an individual in the group had brought up Darwin and the myth that he denounced his theory. Darwin never denounced his theory on his death bed, contrary to the belief Darwin was kind enough to let Christians congregate on his property, all very fascinating and while I struggle in Genesis and with certain areas I can always appreciate conversation
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@@ObePawnKenobiYes we recognise the truth that Jesus died on the cross for our sins.
@@Negiku There are plenty of magic and make believe channels on TH-cam, lil bro. Go be blissfully ignorant in one of those.
easy life hack for any christian: it´s all metahphor
It's not though it's bronze age history. We invent the metaphors to suit the current agenda. It's far from harmless for it creates delusional mania. It can be the justification for inhuman behaviour.
This was refreshing to hear Neil be so complimentary, and even apologetic on occasion, with virtually no interrupting of his guest.
I do enjoy most of his work, though it’s apparent why he does so well with comedians with him, to lighten him up, and him having to watch his mouth😊
[edit] - and Wow, he even gets all philosophical on us as he closes out here!
He used to be positively awful about that
I taught my children to always ask, “Why?” Always be curious about your surroundings; the environment and with people around you. There’s an infinite knowledge waiting to be learned!
What a treat !! These two are two human beings that make me believe that humanity is not doomed. Long live to these gentlemen.
thank you professor degrasse and richard dawkins from morocco africa we love what you do in your speciale scientific show...i learned a lot from you all love and peace😇🙏🙏🙏🙏
One of the best interviews so far! I’ve been following StarTalk for years, and I’m hoping to see Dawkins again as a guest on the show. What an excellent educator who is not afraid to dive deep into “taboo” topics and ask thought-provoking questions. 👏👏
I've never actually seen or heard Mr. Dawkins speak. I've only heard of him and his work. His speech is so elegant
If there is a creator, it remains unseen. Religion is a bunch of stories about how you should live your life. Philosophy stated as fact.
If you ask enough questions about the origin of what you see, you'd logically reason that there must be a creator. You can argue that creator isn't the Christian/Muslim etc God, but there must be an intelligent being behind the intelligent design we see around us
Exactly
@@curtarnoldsfalse , in fact there is no evidence of a creator , the possibility of a creator or that anything was ever created
@@curtarnoldsNo that isn't what typically happens. Not at all.
@@curtarnoldsThere is no stated rule that there HAS to be an intelligent designer. This isn’t really an argument as it doesn’t have much of an actual basis. It functions solely on the basis of an assumption rather than on evidence.
Dawkins looks great for 83. I’m glad to see he’s still around and has his faculties intact.
And still doesn't have peace. That's actually sad to me
Why he’s horrid
@@bobbyologun1517 he defintely is
@@karlinwilliamson9329 what makes you say that
@@bobbyologun1517 I was just agreeing with ur statement
For years I’ve tried talking about science, especially astronomy to people. All I ever got was glazed over eyes. 👀 they thought the subject, or me, was boring. I never understood that. But I finally gave up and don’t talk about science anymore. Sad.
Dont give up. Try find spaces where there is interest in the real world or online. Nothing more amazing than sharing your thoughts about the world with an equally fascinated person. Good luck
That's very sad people justbseem to be tough vaginas these days I can't stand it science is amazing mathematics amazing if people don't like it it's simply because they can't grasp it
I'll tell you lime this about an eye and this is a fact i don't knowif people realize this if you are 100% blind in a eye you will still be hurt by the sun as if you weren't blind in it a close friend told me that
That is because you were probably talking to God fearing Americans. Who've been brain washed with religious BS since they were able to understand words. All religion is evil and designed to enslave your mind. There is no god. The only true creator is the sun, and exploded ancient stars that created everything we are made of.
The ultimate question is - why are organisms on earth programmed to survive? The first single cell organism - why did it evolve to survive? Where does that need to be better and populate comes from? We know that outcome of this is natural selection, but the question is why are organisms programmed to fight for that? That is why we have life. There is a code written/ programmed in the first living cell - 'survive and make copies of youself'. Evolution is a by-product of that code.
What you are describing has been called the absolute, in which information, the "codes" and "programming" have been said to come from. These two do not believe the absolute (or God) is required in order for life to do it thing. They will mention environmental pressures and millions of years of time to develop as enough to explain how we get to LUCA. I think that's fair, just as I think your question is fair. Good luck trying to get why answers from what problems. What really matters is how YOU feel.
RIP Daniel Dennett, Did not hear about that yet. Loved his voice.
RIP from an Athiest? 😂
It's an honor to see two of the many of great minds in one room. Need more of this.
Two great minds…..one of them thinks, men can become women and women men…the other one will possibly come to this conclusion, with enough political pressure….Science TM!!
These two great minds think you came from a monkey and your dad got pregnant and birthed you. 😂
@@starsine9062 From your comment, it's clear you think men can't become women, and women can't become men. I used to think that too, and I changed my opinion, and it wasn't because of political pressure.
But before we go further on this, I'd love to know how you define what a man is and what a woman is, so we're certain to discuss the same terms here.
The are both intellectually dishonest and lack wisdom.
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I felt embarrassed for Terrence the whole time, especially when Terrence was shuffling his stuff, and Eric kept on talking about Terrence to Joe like a therapist explaining what's troubling the patient.
It was like a parent talking to his young kid. Eric did a great job. Unbelievable amount of patience by him. Terrance did himself no favors and didn't ever catch the underlying tone of Eric the adult tip toeing around Howard's child like ADHD ramblings of nonsense. Kudos to Eric.
It was a bad parents' teacher conference for Terrence 😂
Please add subtitles! Great talk
That was so enjoyable the hour felt like 5 minutes.
Ah, so cool; just a few days ago, I was listening to Tyson and Richard's podcast on Spotify. And now we have them again ♥
Bro, big shoutout to Neil for hosting dawkins and also for responding to terrace howard, lots of respect 🙏🏽
Just to correct your mistake. DeGrasse deserves zero respect. The man is ridiculous clown.
Thank you for this beautiful conversation with Richard Dawkins. 😊❤
I often feel this way, but I've never wished more for Neil to be quiet and let the other person talk for once in his life. He is literally talking to a living legend and interrupting him and going off on irrelevant tangents when we could learn so much from hearing him talk.
Dawkins has been on so many I interviews and talkshows I don't know why you're so insistent on hearing the same words out of his mouth that you could easily find anywhere else. Neil has his own style but more importantly is just having his own fun and is doing these interviews because he wants to. You've got the wrong expectations.
Can’t teach an old dog new tricks! Even when speaking to one of his scientific heroes, his excitement can’t control his inability to stop interrupting and let Dawkins fully express his views. Kind of a lost opportunity on a few topics, but all in all, this was a great conversation. I hope there is more to come since this was so brief. 🤞
I was thinking the exact same thing. Please. Let. Richard. Talk.
I agree but Neil just being Neil and trying to make some stories and jokes in between(with good intentions), he forgets that Richard already is interesting just speaking
If I could have a wish, it would be to spend a week in a mountain cabin with these two fine educators, just talking about science and the world and the universe, eating good food, sharing drinks, looking at the stars at night, looking at the nature around us, and just being around two of the best minds of our time. And I know at the end of that week I would want to make a second wish, for a week would not be enough!
These are two of my favorite guys.
Two of my absolute favorite people together on perhaps the most fascinating topic!
Neil, you need to read Malcolm Gladwell's, The Tipping Point. Paul Revere was a special individual and certainly had a large impact on the revolutionary war which helped create the country that allows you and I to prosper.
I'm not the biggest Gladwell fan (igon values!), but I think he got this one right.
Love the show and you generally! 🖖
I really wish you had more live events in the Carolinas!! I would absolutely love to see you but travel is pretty hard :( love you Neil thank you for keeping people interested in science and helping young people get intrigued !!!
I could watch these sessions for hours. Stunning work.
I’m an agnostic atheist, have been since I can remember, and Neil deGrasse Tyson is a big helper in that. I can put a lot of my beliefs into words, express them, give evidence and reasoning as to why. The points that I can’t or that need more depth? Neil has it. He is such an inspiration to me.
PROOF FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD: You walk into a room to get a drink of water, as you approach the fountain you pass a pool table and notice the balls are scattered around the table’s surface. You get the drink. As you turn to leave you notice the balls are now in the familiar racked triangular pattern, in order, and facing forward. What do you think? “Why did the balls move themselves like this? No. Pool balls are inert, lifeless, they cannot think or move themselves. For an inert element to move, a force external to it must exert itself against it to cause it to move. For this external force to move inert elements into patterns it must know how to 'manipulate', and know what a pattern is. There would have to be a consciousness (thought process) in the external force that manipulated the pool balls into this pattern, a thinking power moved them. This is the foundational question to our existence: How can inert lifeless matter demonstrate intentional, patterned, goal oriented behavior randomly? The answer is obviously it cannot. The inert lifeless atom is the building block of the physical universe that is moving in patterns and systems that are not just predictable and repeating (planetary orbits), but remain within the narrow parameters of this one universal order model. This requires there to be an external force manipulating these atoms, one that possesses a consciousness. A thinking power is controlling the atoms of the universe-God. Because this power is coming from a place we cannot measure or see, and because it must exist for the atoms to be behaving in this way, we have to now conclude that there is an invisible or spiritual dimension to the reality of our existence. It is not inaccurate to refer to this dimension as spiritual due to the fact that it possesses a consciousness, and the ability to project power. John 4:24: "God is a spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.". Genesis 1:1: "In the beginning God created heaven and the earth." Hebrews 11:3: "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God so that things which are seen are not made of things that do appear." The table is made of something that does not appear so it is made of something invisible, or too small to see. If invisible the table would be invisible, it is not. We know it is too small to see-atoms. The Bible has been teaching us about atoms for 2000 years, they are too small to appear. Genesis 2:7: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground (atoms),,and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (spirit), and man became a living soul.” This is why a person can think (consciousness) within their inert atom-made body, and have the ability to manipulate inert elements into patterns (build things). The spirit moves the body like the hand moves the glove. The Spirit of Life of God is within us. Colossians 1:27,28 "The whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of Glory." The body isn’t thinking. 1 Corinthians 3:16: "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the spirit of God dwelleth in you?". Ecclesiastes 3:21: “Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upwards, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?" Genesis: 6:17 "And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die." James 2:26: "For the body without the spirit is dead."
The creatures of the world also have a spirit so they can think from within their inert atom-made bodies and manipulate inert elements into patterns (dens, nests). The spirit moves the body like the hand moves the glove. The whole of life on this planet, in the physical realm, is expressed in physical forms made of inert atoms that cannot think for themselves so they must be inhabited by a spirit of life to be active (alive). The fact that they 'grow' shows the hand of God at work. Growing is increasing mass and duplicating physical form and internal processes, not possible for inert lifeless material to do. Even plants have circulatory systems within them, movements that they, being composed by inert atoms, cannot muster themselves. Their roots bring up water from the soil, and their leaves produce carbohydrates through photosynthesis, using the sun for their sustenance. This entire ecosystem is a demonstration of God's omniscient power in action, as is the whole universe. Ephesians 4:6: "One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." But the time will come when the old earth will be destroyed to make way for the new, it is called the "Day of the Lord."
God said the wisdom of man is foolishness to Him,🙂
I grew up in religion, I now believe in spiritual love, acceptance and growth. We should not focus on our differences, we have Way more similarities.❤