Hello you beauties. Access all episodes 10 hours earlier than TH-cam by Subscribing on Spotify - spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - apple.co/2MNqIgw. Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:57 Did Pfizer Bring Travis Kelce & Taylor Swift Together? 10:53 Having an Obligatory Opinion on Everything 14:52 Jada Pinkett Smith’s Confusing Marriage 21:53 Why Young Men Are Dating Older Girls 27:36 Preparing for a Baby as a Woman 32:42 Mistaking Charisma for a Romantic Spark 44:00 Survival Mechanisms in Daily Life 48:18 Benefits of the 12-Step Program 53:52 The Beauty of Having a Child 1:01:42 Being Intentional in Relationships 1:09:16 Dating Someone Who Has an Online Persona 1:21:16 Who to Seek Relationship Advice From 1:25:06 Is There Power in Positively Changing for Your Partner? 1:32:37 How to Take Material for Art From Life 1:46:30 Taking a Life Hiatus for Childcare 1:50:59 How to Survive on Tour 2:02:30 Allowing Yourself to Feel Emotions 2:06:58 Where to Find Whitney
They try to rephrase Manosphere memes: _"Oh yes yes that's all true, but it's women who are the real victims in a society wholly centered around them"_ That's why you should not let normies like them into our spaces.
Or to keep "the peace". If someone has that kind of control over you, that you feel like saying "no" will have them launch into a never ending guilt trip. That's proof enough they have no respect for your boundaries. Respect comes at the cost of feeling like you're being an abrupt *sshole sometimes, but it's necessary.
Absolutely, being more authentic instead of pathologically nice and sacrifice our peace within to maintain peace in someone else when it's primarily due to a lack of emotional regulation - i.e. someone who's just temperamental regardless... be yourself anyways. If you inherently "being" pisses them off then "be" anyways and perhaps get them out of your closest social circle. It's a curious phenomenon but in time the muscle of being authentic adapts to being a lot more comfortable and wise to saying no when it's perfectly reasonable. Many (especially casual) situations can warrant a reasonable no. What helped me is the mindset of isolating all emotional reactions to each individual's responsibility. Yes we can influence emotion, but NO we cannot manage it for others as well. When one is much less abled to manage themselves (children, certain disabilities, etc) - we're still running a constant negotiation game to convince them to manage themselves if you really think about it. In some sense I remember a lot of misguided logic in childhood saying "if you can't say anything NICE, don't say anything AT ALL" and this is inhumane because there's a spectrum of experience that will inevitably require harsh truth as well. Respecting our own health to be able to respect the health of others is inevitable.
And saying "no" is a good way to find out if someone is a narcissist. People who are persistent after being told "no" or people get very upset when being told "no" are highly likely narcissists. They take rejection poorly and hate how it disrupts their sense of control.
I'm so happy I actually listened to this podcast. I almost blew past it because I was exhausted by the feminism and hardness that Whitney used to promote. I REALLY like this side of her and I hope she shows more of it. We gotta bring feminity back! Well done
are you serious she just wanted a beta bux provider now thats why she talked like this how can a man with some self respect marry a 304 feminist like this and have kids is beyond me
Being married means waking up every day knowing I get to improve the life of the person next to me through every decision I make over the next 16 hours, and that has been the greatest gift life’s ever given me. I hope more young people experience the awakening Whitney describes before reaching an age where the regret is too overwhelming to acknowledge. I know too many people like that in LA (where I live). This is my first TH-cam comment ever, so I have to also say thank you to Chris for creating such an awesome, free resource. I’ve learned so much from your channel and appreciate the diversity of guests you host and your style of interviewing. This has slowly become the only long form podcast I tune into.
1:28:00 is one of the best sections of any podcast that I’ve ever seen. The importance of not putting your man down, especially in front of others cannot be overstated. I’m so glad I bit the bullet and watched this podcast as I was initially hesitant because I thought I didn’t want to watch Whitney Cummings.
I completely agree with this. It almost made me tear up because there's so much antagonism out there now between the sexes and men are getting thrown down left and right so when she came out and said that that was very touching and necessary to hear.
I would never put down my partner in public. I have been in a relationship before that the man that I was with would put me down in public on a regular basis. That relationship doesn't exist anymore.@toddessary4283
I first heard Whitney on Rogan probably 6-7 years ago. I’ll be honest, I couldn’t stand her persona back then. This podcast really has changed my mind. She is really smart, intentional and well thought out. She just seems more mature. I haven’t followed her much lately, but this pod really changed my mind.
Her podcast episode with Jennette McCurdy really made me respect Whitney a lot more, although I wish Whitney had let Jennnette do some of the talking, since Nette was the one _supposedly_ being interviewed! lmao. So she still has some room to improve, for sure.
Finally seems mature at 41? Not exactly what I would call laudable... The person she has been and her path through life is no where near what I would hope for my daughters, even though I want them to be successful too.
Nothing special. Pretty much every woman goes through this. From being a feminist to being 30+ years old and realizing life isn't that easy anymore lol.
Nothing against Whitney, but entertainment & Hollywood people live in their own bubble, which has nothing to to with the real world that most of us live in.
Fantastic conversation. Whitney’s line about wanting to be a mom her 15 year old would be proud of is incredible. That is the mindset of a damn good woman, I hope she finds herself a good dude who can appreciate her.
I’ve been watching your shows for about a month now. I’m a therapist in drug rehabilitation and I listen to episodes while I write my notes. This may be one of my favorite episodes; I wish you titled it differently. The title and picture are misleading. I found this piece inspiring and hopeful. I love your work. It would be easier to share with others if the titles and pictures weren’t so inflammatory. Your work is more thoughtful and compassionate and nuanced than I would have expected based on the thumb nails.
Would also like it more without the F bombs. I have watched several of CW's videos and would like to share them with friends and family, but those F bombs would distract from the good stuff.
What a great conversation! I love the observation about how we’re led to believe that a woman sacrificing for a corporation that doesn’t care about her is independent but doing that for a partner is seen as simping. That resonates.
For women, corporations don't have to care about them, just pay them. Women don't need to be friends with their workplace. You're also under the false impression that a man would treat a woman well. There's no ROI to sacrificing for a man. Plus she can switch jobs, travel for a job, income is great and autonomy is priceless.
What I like about Whitney is that she channels her nerouses into comedy, and she can be really over the top, but she uses her nervous energy to create. Neuroticism transduced into laughter is a huge W
one of the biggest curses of modern western art and entertainment is the losing sight of timelessness. whitney hit the 'evergreen' bits straight on the nose
Benefits of the 12 step program was so revealing. Whitney is right that most of us think it`s just for AA or NA. I had no idea there were so many 12 step programs available. Thankyou for this. The whole tone of the podcast was great ! Very "Real" !
Great episode. Came into the episode with no expectations and she dropped some gems (preparing for marriage while single, don’t complain about your man to other ppl, expressing positive reinforcement, etc) Advice you can share with others who haven’t watched the episode
I grew up with trauma and drama also, and didn't start to figure some of this out until my 40's...still working on a lot of it in my early 50's. I am grateful this conversation is available and hope more people contemplate what having a healthy relationship requires and offers.
Same. 45 now, and im still working through a lot, but I’m glad these types of conversations are more prevalent for the younger generations. Hopefully it’ll save someone some time and pain.
I’m very glad you have recognized it. I’m very fortunate my mom recognized it before she had me, and a lot of her personal growth is why I am who I am. But it’s never too late. I’m very proud of your for that 🫶🏻
I really enjoyed this conversation, more than I thought I would. Whitney is so articulate, introspective and honestly, quite humble. Thanks for a great interview!
Whitney has definitely come out the other side of the dark forest as a wiser human being. I’ve listened to quite a few of her latest podcasts and am really impressed with how much more pleasurable she communicates her points of view.
Yeah I agree. A big change. I didn't like the whole act of her being the modern boss girl victim. I think a lot of comedians like Tim Dillion pushing back on her oh victim me BS really helped her.
@@houseofhas9355 Yes, I was going to say this. I think Tim Dillon keeps her honest. And let's be real, as a big shot in LA, you reallllly need someone like Tim Dillon to keep you honest.
@@houseofhas9355 That's an excellent way to phrase it; "the modern boss-girl victim." They really do want, as Bill Burr says (paraphrased) the best parts of being a man, but retain all the best parts of being a woman.
She's sober because she's pregnant, is mostly what it boils down to. Whatever she used to be on, made her so manic and loud and just pretty exhausting.
What a fantastic episode! I didn't know much about Whitney going into this podcast and I walked away with so much respect for her. Keep em coming Chris! ❤
To hear Whitney say “is my 15 year old son going to be proud that I’m his mom” just shows how much she’s grown. No reason to hate on someone who is changing their mindset. She seems the happiest she’s ever been and that’s awesome. Loved hearing something actually deep and personal about her for once. Congrats Whitney! Now get a man 😂
People are hating on her recent change of mindset because many people tried to tell her what she suddenly realized, post wall, when she was younger but instead of listening she led a ton of women down a stray path to catsville. Glad to see her change as well but the damage she and her misandrist group views spewed set women back to the point most men with money are leaving the country to find wives.
@@jeltoninc.8542 "proper" implies every step of the process was completed in both the correct way and the morally righteous way. You can use a different word, just not "Proper"
@@tjblackmore7863 ...if that's actually true, holy fuck. From what I've seen through a quick Google search, though, it's that he's "unannounced" or "never revealed" or "unclear". Would like to see someone cite a source for this, though.
Whitney is one of the most brilliant original voices in the world today. If you put her in the same room as Jennifer Jason Leigh, I'd be real interested in seeing what would happen
Huge fan of your podcast and as an Austin area native, glad to have you here, sir. This was one of the best ones yet - the way you both navigated the growth journeys you’ve been on to get to where you’re at really help me try to make sense of where I’m at and how to move forward. Thanks for all you’ve done in the ‘bro science’ community, Chris. Your hard work and love for what you do is truly apparent, and truly appreciated.👏🏼
The clean up a mess thing is real for both sides. I'm 33 and have everything more or less right for a solid healthy relationship and it makes me too boring. There's no challenge or drama to latch onto. I also love the "becoming a wife/husband/parent doesn't start when you meet your person" bit. What a powerful concept. It needs to be talked about more.
I realised something, the same way becoming successful reduces a woman's relationship options; becoming psychologically healthier/better as a man reduces our options too.😂 It's a weird dichotomy to get one's head around but it's real. Most people go through life without fixing their issues and attracting people like themselves. The issue is once you fix/better yourself you inadvertently eliminate/repel most people who haven't fixed themselves from your dating pool... The saying, *"It's lonely at the top"* comes to mind.😂 Godspeed
Spot on 💯. I'm like you, but I'm 66, a lifelong bachelor (not entirely by choice), so it is what it is. I'm not a train wreck, or damaged goods from poor life decisions, and I can say unequivocally that I've been told that I was passed over for relationships with women, or not hired for jobs, because I had my act together. Makes no sense. At my age now, I find solace in my traditional faith community, with select members of my immediate family, some select friends, and with my pets.
I’m a woman in my 40’s and I never met a man who worked on their emotional health.😂 that’s why single is not an option, is the only healthy choice if I want to keep my balance.
Whitney looks so gorgeous today! And I love what she said about being a parent before you ever have kids and acting like you're married before you ever get married. It always cracks me up when people say how they want to settle down and get married and have kids and yet they're out partying every night and sleeping around with different people all the time. Like no, honey, you ain't ready for marriage and kids lol. You gotta be the person that you want to be and not just wait on things to fall in your lap. No man looks at a woman that's out partying every night and says "Oh yeah, I think I want her to marry me and have my babies" lol and same goes for the other way around.
I saw the seeds of this 20 years ago in college. They glorified and idolized the Sex and the City lifestyle - a show whose protagonists acted like antagonists. A show where all their bad behavior was ignored, accepted, or excused away. Women say they want marriage, but they are woefully unprepared for what is expected of a wife and mother. They have no clue what men want and hence they fail to understand how to improve their value and sell themselves to prospective husbands.
It definitely goes both ways - neither sex is prepared for life-partnership these days. Both sexes are taught to be selfish and to focus on what they want to GET from a partner, rather than what they want to GIVE to a partner.
@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 That is wholly incorrect. We as men are held to a high moral standard by not only our own will of self, but by our parents, family, peers, and society. We are expected to be the hero, to lay down our lives when the call arises in the defense of justice and goodness. In this sense, we are conditioned to be disposable and selfless, which is (unfortunately for society) the exact opposite of what the other sex is encouraged to be. This is evidenced by going outside, opening your eyes, and touching grass. Less than 5 years of normal adult life experience will teach you this reality, and most of us have plenty more than that under our belts. At this point, it's really just common sense... To deny that fact is pretty radical and hugely irresponsible for society
@@tetedur377 it's worse than not caring - 5 minutes spent watching pretty much any 'Whatever' podcast or scrolling instagram and it's clear that not only do huge numbers of women not care what men actually want, they tell men that men want the wrong thing and that they should want something else! Bat shit insane!
Such a good podcast, so relatable. When Whitney speaks on her mom being a gold digger, it struck me as so authentic and reminded me of how my own family dynamic echoes into the present so strongly.
This is the first time I've found Whitney listenable. I knew she was always smart and introspective, but there was always this people-pleaser, try hard, anxiety that comes across that made my skin crawl and I could not watch/listen to her. I clicked this with zero confidence I would enjoy, but she's either changed (as she actually talks about in this episode), pregnancy, and/or you bring this out of her Chris, but either way, man I really hope that Whitney can continue with this energy, because if she does, she can be quite a force
Your podcast is the only one I actively tell myself not to skip the adds, even if I have to put my fingers in my ears and go la la la la laaaaaa, specifically for the pharmaceutical ones. I want you to get the revenue because I honestly enjoy your content and appreciate your work. You’re great at this and thank you for it.
Fun episode, good to see a mixture of guests with different perspectives, everyone has something of value to bring and you do a great job of letting them shine, keep up the hard work Chris and Co.
I love how you talk about serving each either as husband and wife. I believe so much that as we do this we crate an interdependence. You crate a life and energy that is better than what you could ever create alone. You have to both be willing to work for that kind of relationship though. It will not work if it’s one sided. Thank you for spreading this to the world. I hope that we as a people are redirecting our mindsets to this end. It is time we start thinking about marriage this way.
This was a really fantastic conversation. Thank you Chris! You can tell that Whitney has done a ton of inner work and understands herself so much. Wishing her the very best for her new chapter, as a relatively new mother I’m so happy to hear her approach to motherhood as being completely present for her baby boy. (Side note Dwayne Johnson is remarried with 2 other children, but his partnership with his ex wife and her husband is indeed unique & actually pretty inspirational.)
I can not believe how much insight was shared in an episode with a comedian. Incredible wisdom and wonderful sharing from Whitney Cummings. Thank you for always bringing out the best in your guests Chris!
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you must not have seen the channels of the following comedians: Russell Brand Jimmy Dore Joe Rogan Konstantin Kisin & Francis Foster
@@scratchpenny when did I say that you can’t get insight from Whitney? I was referring to the statement about how surprising it is to get this insight from any comedian. Plenty of comedians host and appear on podcasts and have shared great insight all the time. Whitney, being a comedian, is no exception.
Maybe it's because I'm a stereotypical masculine male but a lot of what she says does not resonate with me at all. That constant need for approval, the mirroring of others, perpetually nurturing of those around, playing the room, etc. None of those things were ever a factor or even entered my mind and the closest thing to nurturing instinct is the protective instinct for those weaker/smaller in the group. This was really just a glimpse into the world pure feminine oriented neuroticism. I've had many heart to heart type conversations with my male friends and none of those type of things are factors for them (aside from dating damaged women). I think men have a fundamentally different experience overall due to most men realizing at a young age that no one cares about your problems, nothing is going to be handed to you and unless you can provide utility then people aren't going to value you.
Yeah ..just give it a while. Everything will come into perspective for you. Whitney was also very highly opinionated and a boy's girl who wanted to badly fit in with the boys. She had to learn the hard way. Your turn is also coming. The punch is still being wound up for your face. Also age does wonders. She had to first hit the proverbial wall and realised she didn't have long to continue playing games.😂😂
@@marcmuwanga68 My turn for what? You can give it all the time in the world, that shit doesn't change anything because it's based in biology. In fact it's the exact opposite of what you're stating, the older men get the less they care about any form of social order, people pleasing and even women. I'm already in my late 30s and with every year I move further away from any of the mindset she's mentioning and have less patience for that nonsense in others.
@@theperfectbeingI repeat, just give it a second... And in that moment of honesty that only you will be present in, you will know it. Let's not argue.🙃
The beginning of the podcast was rough to get through as I don’t love gossip and talking about people. But damn, I’m glad I got through that because the rest of the podcast was amazing. Great insights from both of you, but I loved hearing from her about the growth and things she’s learned along the way
Both Whitney and Chris have such an impressive level of awareness of both self and the world. This podcast is full of gems. Living up to the name Modern Wisdom
I must say I was positively surprised by this podcast I was expecting way less from Whitney. It's kinda funny that she's surprised by people's reaction to her having blue hair, but if you go back and watch some of the podcasts she was on with blue hair it's becomes less surprising and more apparent where this stereotype is coming from.
Haven't seen the whole episode yet, but Whitney has said the most outlandishly stupid things in her blue hair era, so her surprise is kind of surprising.
Pleasant each time I see time stamps with descriptions and think 'I don't think I'll gain value from this section' yet consistently those very ones I dismiss are the ones I find value in from not considering aspects of those topics. Great episode! Took away more than I expected in a great way!
Wasnt sure what to expect, but really enjoyed this. Whitney came off as very genuine, self reflective, and had a nuanced perspective that I greatly appreciated.
@rydz656 Well, since that didn't come up in the interview... I don't see how it relates to my comment. If true, yeah, that's pretty disgusting and disappointing because it's in complete opposition to her perspective here. That said, a cursory googling makes it sound like this is an unverified rumor from a 3rd party without any proof, so I'll withhold judgment.
I’ll be honest I’d never heard of Whitney before this. Love her. This was a fantastic episode and hands down one of the best of any podcast I’ve listened to in a very long time
Do we know that he's straight though? He interviews Douglas Murray more than almost anyone else and he does live in Austin and has a hunky male roommate.
@@2Ten1Ryu to be fair, he does do a LOT of interviews with people centering on the dynamics between men and women. I think he's more likely to be bisexual than gay. But the man is something of a mystery, isn't he?
Hot take from a casual listener: I love these interviews! They are thought provoking and informative. What I don’t love is a super smart guy using the word “fuck” every 5 minutes… it really dumbs you down Chris.
They also talk about the only thing that works is positive reinforcement, but I'm guessing the back handed compliments must be second hand nature to you?
Whitney has been one of my favorite guests on JR and this podcast is so good (halfway through.) Whitney is so self aware, intelligent and witty. Great advice on equine therapy and energy. Congrats on the pregnancy, Whitney! Motherhood is the best!
Don't understand the hate this woman gets at all. I loved the guest spots she did on Joe Rogan. She's really witty and intelligent. Happy to see that she's finally having a kid/starting a family.
If you don't understand the hate then you must not be familiar with all the things she's done in the past. All the things shes warning about in this video and claiming she "doesn't understand" she was doing herself up until a year or two ago. This is a stereotypical rebranding that most women with that lifestyle do when they want to "settle down and get married'. She at least realize that all the stable men who would be fathers would not toelrate any of that leftist horseshit she was peddling for years and has no dropped it. The talking points do not come off as genuine.
This was amazing. I just put this on with the idea to relax and maybe have a laugh but both of you dropped a couple of pearls of wisdom which really made me think. I’ll definitely rewatch because I found some really meaningful life lessons here.
@@GeneTicklesYeah, that’s something a lot of normies do. Is it abnormal for men to cheat? Because they do it all the time. Isn’t she now married or engaged, and pregnant? Seems pretty normie to me.
I totally relate with Whitney feeling like I had to overdo the toughness because I learned from a really young age that it’s bad to be a girl and you won’t be taken seriously
Yes, and. I'm male and have been learning throughout my life about the pressures and toxicities that girls and women have to deal with. I have a now-middle-aged daughter. I've had a motivation to try to help create a better world for decades, but it got stronger after she was born. I want the world she will live in to be a better one, more nurturing and less toxic and traumatizing as the one I had to grow up in. Even today, I think about all the new souls in the world who are being subjected to horrors and toxicity and it grieves me. I've advocated within my sphere of influence for human decency, period, for girls and women but also for boys and men. There's so much "us/them" aggression, competition, pressure to perform and hostility. So much of it is unnecessary, but much of it is driven by basic human drives and actively encouraged. . The "and" part is that boys/men are *also* surrounded by toxic pressures and beliefs that get internalized and harm so many; Whitney's childhood and how it shaped her beliefs, perceptions and ways of living in the world is an example, but these harms obviously happen to huge numbers of children. So many human beings are carrying wounds and misshapen development. As Chris and his guests have pointed out numerous times, what we're doing hasn't been working for quite a long time and we've reached a bad state for boys, girls, men and women. Forthright and safe discussions like this one are a beacon of hope for everyone.
I come from a family with lots of female so I never heard that it was bad to be a girl at all and have never been discriminated against. In fact, in the western world it is easier to be a girl than a male in many ways-- but sadly, feminists and the media have ruined being female. Now we all have to be the men. It's such a disaster.
Career is a great thing for a woman … she needs a purpose outside from the house… if I could take everything from the beginning I would NOT have children NOR marry …. The best life a woman can have is the carrier and be free to be with her friends .
This conversation had so much positive, useful advice for males and females. Anyone contemplating skipping it should reconsider and give it a listen. *_TRUST !!_*
Thanks you for this conversation. Such a great back and forth, full of great insights that I’m hearing for the first time being articulated, not the same old thoughts that have you might have come across earlier. No fluff, so real! How?!
Its not only very wealthy or famous men that get accused, my lil brother is a tv weatherman and didnt listen to me when i said do not sleep with any woman you work with or in media and he still did and didnt wanna date her and she accused him of misconduct and got him fired even though there was loads of evidence texts voice mails dated after she accused him with her begging him to date her. And the girl he ended up dating was also in media and 2 year later did the same thing. On top of that he has been trying to get a job in Boston to move back home for years and everytime (6 times so far) they go sorry we have to go with a woman or person of color thats on paper less qualified for diversity. He is even bi sexual and now has a bf and thats definitely not enough anymore i keep telling him the only thing that would would is to say your pre op trans non binary and gay and maybe thatbwill get you up higher on the victimized hierarchy.
The advice segment was interesting because I think Chris has a point that we seek advice from people who are unqualified but often do so to keep a bond with that friend. I think we all realize some people are unqualified to give advice but we go to our girlfriends as a sort of bonding activity. I can be totally wrong but I did find that resonating. I even laughed about it because it’s not just women. I had a male friend who had only one relationship (that failed) and his best male friend who had gone through several relationships, would often go to him for advice.
Mom brain comes with equal parts cray and wisdom and we're just conditioned to critique the cray when it comes up. Whitney, please watch this to see the brilliance that came through. Loooooooooooove this interview...so much resonates around the ambition and how having babies can soften us. Having my daughter definitely expanded my creativity. Someone needs to study this phenomenon! My favorite moment: Be regular and orderly in your personal life so you can be brave and violent in your professional life. YES!
I decided to watch the pod after viewing a few shorts and I have to say im pleasantly surprise how insightful she was, im going to have to relisten to it several times and really chew on what was said in this episode. Im really glad I listen to it.
What she says about when entering a room with men and women, she would not get ahead by using her looks and sexyness to take advantage as a way to be liked by women, is super insightful, like, I expect that a lot of the girl boss behavior is also a way to really be able to be dominant without being hated by other women because you don't use the women's advantages, but try to use the male advantage instead. It's like an adaptation to realising that the cost of using your attractiveness as a woman to get ahead would result in being ostrasized by other women even if it was advantageous toward men.
It's cope. Most girl bosses I encounter use both dominance and looks. Even Whitney did. It's not irrational either, because women will ostracize you either way.
Whitney has no clue about Swift "writing all her stuff & playing all the instruments", I, as a swede, can tell you that there are videos of Shellback and Max Martin (swedes) working on Shake it off, in the studio, before Taylor was involved. Shellback actually is a former metal-drummer, and wrote the drumpart aswell as recorded it, and it's on video.
This podcast was such a insightful and enthralling listen. Whitney Cummings has given some great insight on how to become a better person and partner while also doing it in an easy to consume manner. 10/10 would recommend.
Wait wasn't she at the forefront of that whole woke shit. Girl power cringe ads. Remember all the ads she did for Tinder and all that other shit. And now she is making these statements, what a hypocrite. This lady goes with the trends
Yeah, not long ago, she did a podcast with Tim Dillon and said something about having to work twice as hard to get half as far as a man and how she doesn't have that "white male" thing of thinking everyone finds her interesting when she talks. Tim softly called her out on it. Maybe she's sincerely adjusted her views since or she just has conflicting beliefs. 🤷♂️
Hello you beauties. Access all episodes 10 hours earlier than TH-cam by Subscribing on Spotify - spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - apple.co/2MNqIgw. Here’s the timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:57 Did Pfizer Bring Travis Kelce & Taylor Swift Together?
10:53 Having an Obligatory Opinion on Everything
14:52 Jada Pinkett Smith’s Confusing Marriage
21:53 Why Young Men Are Dating Older Girls
27:36 Preparing for a Baby as a Woman
32:42 Mistaking Charisma for a Romantic Spark
44:00 Survival Mechanisms in Daily Life
48:18 Benefits of the 12-Step Program
53:52 The Beauty of Having a Child
1:01:42 Being Intentional in Relationships
1:09:16 Dating Someone Who Has an Online Persona
1:21:16 Who to Seek Relationship Advice From
1:25:06 Is There Power in Positively Changing for Your Partner?
1:32:37 How to Take Material for Art From Life
1:46:30 Taking a Life Hiatus for Childcare
1:50:59 How to Survive on Tour
2:02:30 Allowing Yourself to Feel Emotions
2:06:58 Where to Find Whitney
oh yeah she jumped your bones
what shirt you wearing?
My new favorite word: transmogrified
They try to rephrase Manosphere memes: _"Oh yes yes that's all true, but it's women who are the real victims in a society wholly centered around them"_
That's why you should not let normies like them into our spaces.
1:46 do you think making fun of Taylor Swift’s body type can make this fake looking pick me cvnt any more attractive?
My wife and I are in hospital. We found out we lost our baby. This channel and JBP are helping me through.
My condolences friend
Fuck. I’m so sorry to hear that. Sending my best wishes
My deepest condolences. I hope you and your family find peace.
@@ChrisWillx thanks so much. Being a man who can be strong in a crisis starts long before the crisis. You've helped immensely.
Soo Sorry, That you lost your Baby! 🙏🏻
The best gift I gave myself is when I stopped saying yes to people when the only reason I was saying yes, was to avoid feeling guilty when I said no.
Saying "no" is quite liberating, especially when you realize how confounded people are when they can't use you anymore
Or to keep "the peace". If someone has that kind of control over you, that you feel like saying "no" will have them launch into a never ending guilt trip. That's proof enough they have no respect for your boundaries.
Respect comes at the cost of feeling like you're being an abrupt *sshole sometimes, but it's necessary.
How did you stop yourself from feeling guilty for saying no?
Absolutely, being more authentic instead of pathologically nice and sacrifice our peace within to maintain peace in someone else when it's primarily due to a lack of emotional regulation - i.e. someone who's just temperamental regardless... be yourself anyways. If you inherently "being" pisses them off then "be" anyways and perhaps get them out of your closest social circle. It's a curious phenomenon but in time the muscle of being authentic adapts to being a lot more comfortable and wise to saying no when it's perfectly reasonable. Many (especially casual) situations can warrant a reasonable no.
What helped me is the mindset of isolating all emotional reactions to each individual's responsibility.
Yes we can influence emotion, but NO we cannot manage it for others as well. When one is much less abled to manage themselves (children, certain disabilities, etc) - we're still running a constant negotiation game to convince them to manage themselves if you really think about it.
In some sense I remember a lot of misguided logic in childhood saying "if you can't say anything NICE, don't say anything AT ALL" and this is inhumane because there's a spectrum of experience that will inevitably require harsh truth as well. Respecting our own health to be able to respect the health of others is inevitable.
And saying "no" is a good way to find out if someone is a narcissist. People who are persistent after being told "no" or people get very upset when being told "no" are highly likely narcissists. They take rejection poorly and hate how it disrupts their sense of control.
I'm so happy I actually listened to this podcast. I almost blew past it because I was exhausted by the feminism and hardness that Whitney used to promote. I REALLY like this side of her and I hope she shows more of it. We gotta bring feminity back! Well done
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me!
Fool me once shame on me. Fool me twice.. uh… you fool me… you can’t get fooled again.
She did the work
are you serious she just wanted a beta bux provider now thats why she talked like this how can a man with some self respect marry a 304 feminist like this and have kids is beyond me
Your response is why I slowed down and am giving this episode a listen. Glad to have caught your comment.
Being married means waking up every day knowing I get to improve the life of the person next to me through every decision I make over the next 16 hours, and that has been the greatest gift life’s ever given me. I hope more young people experience the awakening Whitney describes before reaching an age where the regret is too overwhelming to acknowledge. I know too many people like that in LA (where I live). This is my first TH-cam comment ever, so I have to also say thank you to Chris for creating such an awesome, free resource. I’ve learned so much from your channel and appreciate the diversity of guests you host and your style of interviewing. This has slowly become the only long form podcast I tune into.
if you'r not spitting BS here, you have a lucky partner
1:28:00 is one of the best sections of any podcast that I’ve ever seen. The importance of not putting your man down, especially in front of others cannot be overstated. I’m so glad I bit the bullet and watched this podcast as I was initially hesitant because I thought I didn’t want to watch Whitney Cummings.
I completely agree with this. It almost made me tear up because there's so much antagonism out there now between the sexes and men are getting thrown down left and right so when she came out and said that that was very touching and necessary to hear.
@@theomniscientvoid9553 The crumbs of recognition tastes good huh?
In fact, a woman should support her man in public, even if she disagrees. Then discuss it later. And men should do the same.
I would never put down my partner in public. I have been in a relationship before that the man that I was with would put me down in public on a regular basis.
That relationship doesn't exist anymore.@toddessary4283
thanks for saving us the hassle.
I first heard Whitney on Rogan probably 6-7 years ago. I’ll be honest, I couldn’t stand her persona back then. This podcast really has changed my mind. She is really smart, intentional and well thought out. She just seems more mature. I haven’t followed her much lately, but this pod really changed my mind.
She is matured, having hit the wall, and now wants children, simple as that.
Her podcast episode with Jennette McCurdy really made me respect Whitney a lot more, although I wish Whitney had let Jennnette do some of the talking, since Nette was the one _supposedly_ being interviewed! lmao. So she still has some room to improve, for sure.
@@themick6586 yeah... weird, how the tune changes when reality hits.
Finally seems mature at 41? Not exactly what I would call laudable... The person she has been and her path through life is no where near what I would hope for my daughters, even though I want them to be successful too.
Nothing special. Pretty much every woman goes through this. From being a feminist to being 30+ years old and realizing life isn't that easy anymore lol.
Nothing against Whitney, but entertainment & Hollywood people live in their own bubble, which has nothing to to with the real world that most of us live in.
First reasonable and not unhinged criticism.
So do super intellectuals. Pretty much everyone that's ever on any of these interviews is living a much different life than the rest of us.
@@geocam2what are you trying to say
Most everyone Chris sits down with are famous in some sense of the word.
Facts
Fantastic conversation. Whitney’s line about wanting to be a mom her 15 year old would be proud of is incredible. That is the mindset of a damn good woman, I hope she finds herself a good dude who can appreciate her.
The part where she talked about growing up in an alcoholic household and trying to fix the person you’re in a relationship with made so much sense.
I’ve been watching your shows for about a month now. I’m a therapist in drug rehabilitation and I listen to episodes while I write my notes. This may be one of my favorite episodes; I wish you titled it differently. The title and picture are misleading. I found this piece inspiring and hopeful. I love your work. It would be easier to share with others if the titles and pictures weren’t so inflammatory. Your work is more thoughtful and compassionate and nuanced than I would have expected based on the thumb nails.
I'd want my drug therapist putting all their focus into creating accurate notes...but that's just me
Would also like it more without the F bombs. I have watched several of CW's videos and would like to share them with friends and family, but those F bombs would distract from the good stuff.
You're a therapist in rehab?
Sorry, I couldn't pass that up...
What a great conversation! I love the observation about how we’re led to believe that a woman sacrificing for a corporation that doesn’t care about her is independent but doing that for a partner is seen as simping. That resonates.
For women, corporations don't have to care about them, just pay them. Women don't need to be friends with their workplace.
You're also under the false impression that a man would treat a woman well.
There's no ROI to sacrificing for a man.
Plus she can switch jobs, travel for a job, income is great and autonomy is priceless.
@mishaminute6985 Wall hitting and no options are two things for single women, not married women.
@wyleecoyotee4252 Your statments are a bit bonkers...
But you do you.
@@NorthpoleShuffle
Maybe bonkers to you, but make perfect sense to many women.
@@danielcraig9666
Married women have no options until they divorce or the husband dies . Most divorced women wouldn't remarry.
What I like about Whitney is that she channels her nerouses into comedy, and she can be really over the top, but she uses her nervous energy to create. Neuroticism transduced into laughter is a huge W
one of the biggest curses of modern western art and entertainment is the losing sight of timelessness. whitney hit the 'evergreen' bits straight on the nose
Benefits of the 12 step program was so revealing. Whitney is right that most of us think it`s just for AA or NA. I had no idea there were so many 12 step programs available. Thankyou for this. The whole tone of the podcast was great ! Very "Real" !
Great episode. Came into the episode with no expectations and she dropped some gems (preparing for marriage while single, don’t complain about your man to other ppl, expressing positive reinforcement, etc) Advice you can share with others who haven’t watched the episode
have never wanted to check the comments of a modern wisdom podcast so badly, glad to see I wasn't disappointed 🤣🤣
I grew up with trauma and drama also, and didn't start to figure some of this out until my 40's...still working on a lot of it in my early 50's. I am grateful this conversation is available and hope more people contemplate what having a healthy relationship requires and offers.
Same. 45 now, and im still working through a lot, but I’m glad these types of conversations are more prevalent for the younger generations. Hopefully it’ll save someone some time and pain.
trauma hahaha u just had to mention it, poor victim
I’m very glad you have recognized it. I’m very fortunate my mom recognized it before she had me, and a lot of her personal growth is why I am who I am. But it’s never too late. I’m very proud of your for that 🫶🏻
Unfortunately its too late for any woman that is past 25 to reverse the feminist ways. Its ingrained in your psyche.
Mental health is in short supply. Trauma and drama are unhealthy. It is like walking wounded.
Weak people spread pain. Strong people heal pain.
I really enjoyed this conversation, more than I thought I would. Whitney is so articulate, introspective and honestly, quite humble. Thanks for a great interview!
This has been one of the best episodes of Modern Wisdom for me, personally, ever. Thank you for all you do, Chris & Whitney!
Wisdom? Whitney is on Onlyfans and you think she great?
Whitney has definitely come out the other side of the dark forest as a wiser human being. I’ve listened to quite a few of her latest podcasts and am really impressed with how much more pleasurable she communicates her points of view.
Yeah I agree. A big change. I didn't like the whole act of her being the modern boss girl victim. I think a lot of comedians like Tim Dillion pushing back on her oh victim me BS really helped her.
So she’s different than 4-5 years ago?
@@houseofhas9355 Yes, I was going to say this. I think Tim Dillon keeps her honest. And let's be real, as a big shot in LA, you reallllly need someone like Tim Dillon to keep you honest.
@@houseofhas9355 That's an excellent way to phrase it; "the modern boss-girl victim." They really do want, as Bill Burr says (paraphrased) the best parts of being a man, but retain all the best parts of being a woman.
She's sober because she's pregnant, is mostly what it boils down to. Whatever she used to be on, made her so manic and loud and just pretty exhausting.
What a fantastic episode! I didn't know much about Whitney going into this podcast and I walked away with so much respect for her. Keep em coming Chris! ❤
Why? What did she say that made you gain respect for her??
How much thought, reflection, responsibility and accountability she has for her actions and how much she strives for growth. Beautiful and inspiring.
Bill O'Riley was the one that STRONGLY suggested that she never sexualize her self
girls are definatley more delicate at a young age. It's not even close
are you serious she is so biased how can a man with some self respect marry a 304 feminist like this and have kids is beyond me
“Do you think being attracted to girls that skinny is a vaccine injury” is one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard 😂
@@js77z
To hear Whitney say “is my 15 year old son going to be proud that I’m his mom” just shows how much she’s grown. No reason to hate on someone who is changing their mindset. She seems the happiest she’s ever been and that’s awesome. Loved hearing something actually deep and personal about her for once. Congrats Whitney! Now get a man 😂
People are hating on her recent change of mindset because many people tried to tell her what she suddenly realized, post wall, when she was younger but instead of listening she led a ton of women down a stray path to catsville. Glad to see her change as well but the damage she and her misandrist group views spewed set women back to the point most men with money are leaving the country to find wives.
Post wall with a child. Game over. No man is interested in a woman as a "business partner".
@@marcm83like they say, you reap what you sow
Too late.
Umm, Whitney is on Onlyfans and you think she credible? My god people will fall for anything.
32:17 is exceptional. "Being a wife doesn't start when you meet your guy." I love Whitney.
she's a phony
Meanwhile she demands respect from dudes because she thinks she's funny
Fantastic episode. Was waiting for this match up! Whitney is on a new level now it is incredible to watch her unfold.
I like seeing Whitney gradually become a proper mom. If she can do it, there's hope for humanity.
Umm, proper?
She’s got more money and resources for a child than the commenter above me for sure.
Yeah, pretty *proper* to me.
@@jeltoninc.8542 "proper" implies every step of the process was completed in both the correct way and the morally righteous way.
You can use a different word, just not "Proper"
@tjblackmore7863 Dude is that actually true?!?
@@tjblackmore7863 ...if that's actually true, holy fuck. From what I've seen through a quick Google search, though, it's that he's "unannounced" or "never revealed" or "unclear". Would like to see someone cite a source for this, though.
Whitney's mind is so interesting! She shows herself more clearly here than I've ever seen. Excellent episode!
I love your channel name!
Whitney is one of the most brilliant original voices in the world today. If you put her in the same room as Jennifer Jason Leigh, I'd be real interested in seeing what would happen
Huge fan of your podcast and as an Austin area native, glad to have you here, sir. This was one of the best ones yet - the way you both navigated the growth journeys you’ve been on to get to where you’re at really help me try to make sense of where I’m at and how to move forward. Thanks for all you’ve done in the ‘bro science’ community, Chris. Your hard work and love for what you do is truly apparent, and truly appreciated.👏🏼
The clean up a mess thing is real for both sides. I'm 33 and have everything more or less right for a solid healthy relationship and it makes me too boring. There's no challenge or drama to latch onto.
I also love the "becoming a wife/husband/parent doesn't start when you meet your person" bit. What a powerful concept. It needs to be talked about more.
I realised something, the same way becoming successful reduces a woman's relationship options; becoming psychologically healthier/better as a man reduces our options too.😂 It's a weird dichotomy to get one's head around but it's real.
Most people go through life without fixing their issues and attracting people like themselves. The issue is once you fix/better yourself you inadvertently eliminate/repel most people who haven't fixed themselves from your dating pool...
The saying, *"It's lonely at the top"* comes to mind.😂 Godspeed
@@MylezNevison🤔🤯🤕
@@JACCO20082012that about sums it up.
Spot on 💯.
I'm like you, but I'm 66, a lifelong bachelor (not entirely by choice), so it is what it is.
I'm not a train wreck, or damaged goods from poor life decisions, and I can say unequivocally that I've been told that I was passed over for relationships with women, or not hired for jobs, because I had my act together. Makes no sense.
At my age now, I find solace in my traditional faith community, with select members of my immediate family, some select friends, and with my pets.
I’m a woman in my 40’s and I never met a man who worked on their emotional health.😂 that’s why single is not an option, is the only healthy choice if I want to keep my balance.
Whitney looks so gorgeous today! And I love what she said about being a parent before you ever have kids and acting like you're married before you ever get married. It always cracks me up when people say how they want to settle down and get married and have kids and yet they're out partying every night and sleeping around with different people all the time. Like no, honey, you ain't ready for marriage and kids lol. You gotta be the person that you want to be and not just wait on things to fall in your lap. No man looks at a woman that's out partying every night and says "Oh yeah, I think I want her to marry me and have my babies" lol and same goes for the other way around.
She looks like she's had a lot of work done 😂
@@Conservative_carnivore She doesnt look past her 20th Rhino plasty.
Sleeping around with different people every night......
They want to be a mom.........😮😮
I saw the seeds of this 20 years ago in college. They glorified and idolized the Sex and the City lifestyle - a show whose protagonists acted like antagonists. A show where all their bad behavior was ignored, accepted, or excused away. Women say they want marriage, but they are woefully unprepared for what is expected of a wife and mother. They have no clue what men want and hence they fail to understand how to improve their value and sell themselves to prospective husbands.
Worse than not knowing: they don't care.
It definitely goes both ways - neither sex is prepared for life-partnership these days. Both sexes are taught to be selfish and to focus on what they want to GET from a partner, rather than what they want to GIVE to a partner.
@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 That is wholly incorrect. We as men are held to a high moral standard by not only our own will of self, but by our parents, family, peers, and society. We are expected to be the hero, to lay down our lives when the call arises in the defense of justice and goodness. In this sense, we are conditioned to be disposable and selfless, which is (unfortunately for society) the exact opposite of what the other sex is encouraged to be. This is evidenced by going outside, opening your eyes, and touching grass. Less than 5 years of normal adult life experience will teach you this reality, and most of us have plenty more than that under our belts. At this point, it's really just common sense... To deny that fact is pretty radical and hugely irresponsible for society
@@tetedur377 it's worse than not caring - 5 minutes spent watching pretty much any 'Whatever' podcast or scrolling instagram and it's clear that not only do huge numbers of women not care what men actually want, they tell men that men want the wrong thing and that they should want something else! Bat shit insane!
There was so much good stuff in this conversation. Definitely one to come back and rewatch some time.
Such a good podcast, so relatable. When Whitney speaks on her mom being a gold digger, it struck me as so authentic and reminded me of how my own family dynamic echoes into the present so strongly.
This is the first time I've found Whitney listenable. I knew she was always smart and introspective, but there was always this people-pleaser, try hard, anxiety that comes across that made my skin crawl and I could not watch/listen to her. I clicked this with zero confidence I would enjoy, but she's either changed (as she actually talks about in this episode), pregnancy, and/or you bring this out of her Chris, but either way, man I really hope that Whitney can continue with this energy, because if she does, she can be quite a force
This conversation was really helpful for me as an addict. Thank you Whitney and Chris 🙏
Your podcast is the only one I actively tell myself not to skip the adds, even if I have to put my fingers in my ears and go la la la la laaaaaa, specifically for the pharmaceutical ones. I want you to get the revenue because I honestly enjoy your content and appreciate your work. You’re great at this and thank you for it.
It’s just so nice to see Whitney truly happy! What a beautiful human being. Loved this episode!
It's actually pleasant to listen to Whitney Cummins talk!
Her conversation has caught up with her beauty.. perfecto
Fun episode, good to see a mixture of guests with different perspectives, everyone has something of value to bring and you do a great job of letting them shine, keep up the hard work Chris and Co.
What are you willing to give up for the person you want? Gold. Thank you Whitney Cummings.
I love how you talk about serving each either as husband and wife. I believe so much that as we do this we crate an interdependence. You crate a life and energy that is better than what you could ever create alone. You have to both be willing to work for that kind of relationship though. It will not work if it’s one sided. Thank you for spreading this to the world. I hope that we as a people are redirecting our mindsets to this end. It is time we start thinking about marriage this way.
OMG! I think that this is my favorite to date. Such a great conversation that gave me alot to reflect upon. Best of luck with your live tour, cheers 🍻
This was a really fantastic conversation. Thank you Chris! You can tell that Whitney has done a ton of inner work and understands herself so much. Wishing her the very best for her new chapter, as a relatively new mother I’m so happy to hear her approach to motherhood as being completely present for her baby boy.
(Side note Dwayne Johnson is remarried with 2 other children, but his partnership with his ex wife and her husband is indeed unique & actually pretty inspirational.)
I can not believe how much insight was shared in an episode with a comedian. Incredible wisdom and wonderful sharing from Whitney Cummings. Thank you for always bringing out the best in your guests Chris!
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you must not have seen the channels of the following comedians:
Russell Brand
Jimmy Dore
Joe Rogan
Konstantin Kisin & Francis Foster
@@trippmoore Yeah, but that doesn't mean you can't learn something from this lady.
@@scratchpenny when did I say that you can’t get insight from Whitney?
I was referring to the statement about how surprising it is to get this insight from any comedian. Plenty of comedians host and appear on podcasts and have shared great insight all the time. Whitney, being a comedian, is no exception.
Maybe it's because I'm a stereotypical masculine male but a lot of what she says does not resonate with me at all. That constant need for approval, the mirroring of others, perpetually nurturing of those around, playing the room, etc. None of those things were ever a factor or even entered my mind and the closest thing to nurturing instinct is the protective instinct for those weaker/smaller in the group.
This was really just a glimpse into the world pure feminine oriented neuroticism. I've had many heart to heart type conversations with my male friends and none of those type of things are factors for them (aside from dating damaged women). I think men have a fundamentally different experience overall due to most men realizing at a young age that no one cares about your problems, nothing is going to be handed to you and unless you can provide utility then people aren't going to value you.
Yeah ..just give it a while. Everything will come into perspective for you. Whitney was also very highly opinionated and a boy's girl who wanted to badly fit in with the boys. She had to learn the hard way. Your turn is also coming.
The punch is still being wound up for your face. Also age does wonders. She had to first hit the proverbial wall and realised she didn't have long to continue playing games.😂😂
@@marcmuwanga68 My turn for what? You can give it all the time in the world, that shit doesn't change anything because it's based in biology. In fact it's the exact opposite of what you're stating, the older men get the less they care about any form of social order, people pleasing and even women. I'm already in my late 30s and with every year I move further away from any of the mindset she's mentioning and have less patience for that nonsense in others.
@@theperfectbeingI repeat, just give it a second... And in that moment of honesty that only you will be present in, you will know it. Let's not argue.🙃
The beginning of the podcast was rough to get through as I don’t love gossip and talking about people. But damn, I’m glad I got through that because the rest of the podcast was amazing. Great insights from both of you, but I loved hearing from her about the growth and things she’s learned along the way
Both Whitney and Chris have such an impressive level of awareness of both self and the world. This podcast is full of gems. Living up to the name Modern Wisdom
Whitney spoke so well in this - really happy this podcast happened. Thanks Chris! - greetings from Kingston, Jamaica
Have had mixed feelings about Whitney for a long time, this conversation def shows an evolution of thought
I must say I was positively surprised by this podcast I was expecting way less from Whitney. It's kinda funny that she's surprised by people's reaction to her having blue hair, but if you go back and watch some of the podcasts she was on with blue hair it's becomes less surprising and more apparent where this stereotype is coming from.
Haven't seen the whole episode yet, but Whitney has said the most outlandishly stupid things in her blue hair era, so her surprise is kind of surprising.
Shes still part of the hollywood elite and woke. nothing surprising
Pleasant each time I see time stamps with descriptions and think 'I don't think I'll gain value from this section' yet consistently those very ones I dismiss are the ones I find value in from not considering aspects of those topics.
Great episode! Took away more than I expected in a great way!
Such a great and insightful episode. Never thought I’d hang in there for 2+ hours, but it was an amazing conversation
Don't gossip about your man ever. I've experienced this and had people disrespect me because of someone gossiping about me. Very sad.
"What Is Wrong With Modern Women?" - I like this approach of talking directly to the queen of crazy.
This was extremely helpful. I appreciate Whitney’s thoughtfulness and authenticity. The learned wisdom is palpable.
Wasnt sure what to expect, but really enjoyed this. Whitney came off as very genuine, self reflective, and had a nuanced perspective that I greatly appreciated.
She's pregnant with Schaub's kid and he's married. You sicko.
@rydz656 Well, since that didn't come up in the interview... I don't see how it relates to my comment. If true, yeah, that's pretty disgusting and disappointing because it's in complete opposition to her perspective here. That said, a cursory googling makes it sound like this is an unverified rumor from a 3rd party without any proof, so I'll withhold judgment.
Whitney now: "If you like me you like me, I'm not going to do a mailing list." Whitney 2020: "Sign up for my text message ad campaign please!"
That clip you just released was what brought me in. Glad I didn’t miss this one after all!!
I’ll be honest I’d never heard of Whitney before this. Love her. This was a fantastic episode and hands down one of the best of any podcast I’ve listened to in a very long time
Her hypergamy was showing. I mean we all knew Chris was a benevolent Chad already but the way she took extra time at his altar is very telling. lol
She wants some.
Do we know that he's straight though? He interviews Douglas Murray more than almost anyone else and he does live in Austin and has a hunky male roommate.
@@zaydeshaddox7015 I am just so amused by this comment, I don't know why
@@2Ten1Ryu to be fair, he does do a LOT of interviews with people centering on the dynamics between men and women. I think he's more likely to be bisexual than gay. But the man is something of a mystery, isn't he?
He has a girlfriend no? He’s defo mentioned having a girlfriend before
Hot take from a casual listener: I love these interviews! They are thought provoking and informative. What I don’t love is a super smart guy using the word “fuck” every 5 minutes… it really dumbs you down Chris.
They also talk about the only thing that works is positive reinforcement, but I'm guessing the back handed compliments must be second hand nature to you?
Wow. This the gayyyyyest thing I’ve read in the internet. Ever. You’re hurt by words now? Words? We doing that now?
C., there are parts of this video that really hits home with something in my past. Great interview, thanks to you and WC.
Whitney has been one of my favorite guests on JR and this podcast is so good (halfway through.) Whitney is so self aware, intelligent and witty. Great advice on equine therapy and energy. Congrats on the pregnancy, Whitney! Motherhood is the best!
Whitney impressed me with how seriously and thoughtfully she carried herself here. Thanks for the upload Mr. Williamson. 🙂
Me in my bedroom, performing high and striving: yes, thats us.
Don't understand the hate this woman gets at all. I loved the guest spots she did on Joe Rogan. She's really witty and intelligent. Happy to see that she's finally having a kid/starting a family.
If you don't understand the hate then you must not be familiar with all the things she's done in the past. All the things shes warning about in this video and claiming she "doesn't understand" she was doing herself up until a year or two ago. This is a stereotypical rebranding that most women with that lifestyle do when they want to "settle down and get married'. She at least realize that all the stable men who would be fathers would not toelrate any of that leftist horseshit she was peddling for years and has no dropped it. The talking points do not come off as genuine.
Who is the father? 😂
I think this is the first time I ever actually enjoyed listening to Whitney.
This was amazing. I just put this on with the idea to relax and maybe have a laugh but both of you dropped a couple of pearls of wisdom which really made me think. I’ll definitely rewatch because I found some really meaningful life lessons here.
Whitney is EXACTLY "those kind of women"
You mean a normal person?
Do you know her personally?
@@GeneTicklesYeah, that’s something a lot of normies do. Is it abnormal for men to cheat? Because they do it all the time. Isn’t she now married or engaged, and pregnant? Seems pretty normie to me.
@@ChickFenwick NAh...just black dudes.
@@GeneTickleslol
Whitney shooting her shot in the first 10 seconds 😂
RIP Harambe
This was an unexpectedly great conversation. Lots of wisdom. I need to listen to it again.
_God,_ what a great interview this was. Thank you both for having such a great conversation on camera.
This was an incredible podcast. Thank you, Chris and Whitney
I totally relate with Whitney feeling like I had to overdo the toughness because I learned from a really young age that it’s bad to be a girl and you won’t be taken seriously
Focusing on career success is probably the start of it all
Yes, and. I'm male and have been learning throughout my life about the pressures and toxicities that girls and women have to deal with. I have a now-middle-aged daughter. I've had a motivation to try to help create a better world for decades, but it got stronger after she was born. I want the world she will live in to be a better one, more nurturing and less toxic and traumatizing as the one I had to grow up in. Even today, I think about all the new souls in the world who are being subjected to horrors and toxicity and it grieves me. I've advocated within my sphere of influence for human decency, period, for girls and women but also for boys and men. There's so much "us/them" aggression, competition, pressure to perform and hostility. So much of it is unnecessary, but much of it is driven by basic human drives and actively encouraged.
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The "and" part is that boys/men are *also* surrounded by toxic pressures and beliefs that get internalized and harm so many; Whitney's childhood and how it shaped her beliefs, perceptions and ways of living in the world is an example, but these harms obviously happen to huge numbers of children. So many human beings are carrying wounds and misshapen development. As Chris and his guests have pointed out numerous times, what we're doing hasn't been working for quite a long time and we've reached a bad state for boys, girls, men and women. Forthright and safe discussions like this one are a beacon of hope for everyone.
I come from a family with lots of female so I never heard that it was bad to be a girl at all and have never been discriminated against. In fact, in the western world it is easier to be a girl than a male in many ways-- but sadly, feminists and the media have ruined being female. Now we all have to be the men. It's such a disaster.
Career is a great thing for a woman … she needs a purpose outside from the house… if I could take everything from the beginning I would NOT have children NOR marry …. The best life a woman can have is the carrier and be free to be with her friends .
@@maryt7959😂😂😂 you sound like such a loving maternal woman
This is the most Whitney dolled herself up for an interview.
Yeah, she looks gorgeous
She always looks like this. Just look at other channels.
She like him...
This conversation had so much positive, useful advice for males and females. Anyone contemplating skipping it should reconsider and give it a listen.
*_TRUST !!_*
Thanks for coming on Whitney this was a good listen
Whats wrong with modern women? The thumbnail picture is a good summation.
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Shocked to see the negative comments. One hour into the episode, and they hit on some really good points like the needy energy one. Great episode!
Such a great episode. Thank you so much for sharing. I’ve loved hearing this side of Whitney, and her message is very needed right now ❤
My mum used to volunteer with the UK charity, Riding for the Disabled, which is a form of equine therapy.
Thanks you for this conversation. Such a great back and forth, full of great insights that I’m hearing for the first time being articulated, not the same old thoughts that have you might have come across earlier. No fluff, so real! How?!
Its not only very wealthy or famous men that get accused, my lil brother is a tv weatherman and didnt listen to me when i said do not sleep with any woman you work with or in media and he still did and didnt wanna date her and she accused him of misconduct and got him fired even though there was loads of evidence texts voice mails dated after she accused him with her begging him to date her. And the girl he ended up dating was also in media and 2 year later did the same thing. On top of that he has been trying to get a job in Boston to move back home for years and everytime (6 times so far) they go sorry we have to go with a woman or person of color thats on paper less qualified for diversity. He is even bi sexual and now has a bf and thats definitely not enough anymore i keep telling him the only thing that would would is to say your pre op trans non binary and gay and maybe thatbwill get you up higher on the victimized hierarchy.
My EX husband got the best job he'd ever had in his life after he claimed to be a trans woman.
Whitney…..a woman with cognitive thinking ability…..wonderfully refreshing.
This has been one of the best podcast episodes (no just this channel) I have seen in years! What a great conversation
The advice segment was interesting because I think Chris has a point that we seek advice from people who are unqualified but often do so to keep a bond with that friend. I think we all realize some people are unqualified to give advice but we go to our girlfriends as a sort of bonding activity. I can be totally wrong but I did find that resonating. I even laughed about it because it’s not just women. I had a male friend who had only one relationship (that failed) and his best male friend who had gone through several relationships, would often go to him for advice.
Thats true too. It's hard to gauge who has the most relationship experience when talking about depth. @@mudworld5307
Wow you got an interview with Flo the Progressive Lady 🤙 the epitome of what is wrong with modern women.
You guys just have a problem with normal people.
Leave Flo out of this😭
Chris it doesn’t have to be a conspiracy theory just because you’re thinking, lets make thinking fashionable again. Make Thinking Great Again
Mom brain comes with equal parts cray and wisdom and we're just conditioned to critique the cray when it comes up. Whitney, please watch this to see the brilliance that came through.
Loooooooooooove this interview...so much resonates around the ambition and how having babies can soften us. Having my daughter definitely expanded my creativity. Someone needs to study this phenomenon!
My favorite moment: Be regular and orderly in your personal life so you can be brave and violent in your professional life. YES!
Wow, I’ve never seen Whitney in this light. What a very insightful woman.
GREAT interview.
I decided to watch the pod after viewing a few shorts and I have to say im pleasantly surprise how insightful she was, im going to have to relisten to it several times and really chew on what was said in this episode. Im really glad I listen to it.
What she says about when entering a room with men and women, she would not get ahead by using her looks and sexyness to take advantage as a way to be liked by women, is super insightful, like, I expect that a lot of the girl boss behavior is also a way to really be able to be dominant without being hated by other women because you don't use the women's advantages, but try to use the male advantage instead.
It's like an adaptation to realising that the cost of using your attractiveness as a woman to get ahead would result in being ostrasized by other women even if it was advantageous toward men.
It's cope. Most girl bosses I encounter use both dominance and looks. Even Whitney did. It's not irrational either, because women will ostracize you either way.
Taylor Swift came from country music which is famously grounded in fan-appreciation.
Whitney has no clue about Swift "writing all her stuff & playing all the instruments", I, as a swede, can tell you that there are videos of Shellback and Max Martin (swedes) working on Shake it off, in the studio, before Taylor was involved. Shellback actually is a former metal-drummer, and wrote the drumpart aswell as recorded it, and it's on video.
This podcast was such a insightful and enthralling listen. Whitney Cummings has given some great insight on how to become a better person and partner while also doing it in an easy to consume manner. 10/10 would recommend.
If someone knows what Whitney’s shoes are, PLEASE drop a link!!! Need
Wait wasn't she at the forefront of that whole woke shit. Girl power cringe ads. Remember all the ads she did for Tinder and all that other shit. And now she is making these statements, what a hypocrite. This lady goes with the trends
She's hit the wall, matured ,she wants to be a mom. It happens to a lot of feminist.
Yeah, not long ago, she did a podcast with Tim Dillon and said something about having to work twice as hard to get half as far as a man and how she doesn't have that "white male" thing of thinking everyone finds her interesting when she talks. Tim softly called her out on it. Maybe she's sincerely adjusted her views since or she just has conflicting beliefs. 🤷♂️