I am not an expert, but the J10 has been overmodelled if it is turning like that. Also the flying doesn't seem great from the Felon driver, he reversed turns at wrong times and did not pre flare.
When we stall in a sfm plane (outside the su57 that tokyo drifts in the air) is a huge danger, literally stands still until you start falling in reverse 😂
Would like to see smth like a Taiwan battle.. at the Marianas map maybe?! 😅I've heard that the US sent 28 F-22s to the pacific so i guess they will probably meet some J-20s soon...
Regarding the series with dogfights: I really appreciate that you do your fights at low level altitude! Not only is it more exciting, but it seems that you're also the only channel that do so. And as everybody knows, handling isn't the same on 35k ft as it is on 700 ft.
I agree that it looks cooler and that it is original but keep in mind that it rids the fight of a lot of dogfight tactics that rely on dumping altitude for speed which increases the skill ceiling but also makes airplanes that loose energy quickly pretty useless in these low lvl fights as they can't do what they're good at. Still in every type of fight youll always favor someone but I still think that starting a bit higher up is more fair and also more relevant realistically because even tho the chances of modern aircraft dogfighting is slim if they happened you would probably want to start with some altitude most likely.
Every Brit I've heard say 'felon' pronounces it the same way Americans and Canadians do. Did Cap think 'Felon' was the Russian name for the plane instead of the NATO reporting name, maybe?
RC stay safe California fires are no joke. I love the videos you put out they’re all informative and entertaining. All hail the Most Supreme and Excellent Leader Super Cap.
I am Surprised that's DC Still Doesn't Added that J10c with Ws10 Engine With there Original Low RCS ... DC Also Didn't Added the Original J20s with there Origanl Made Specifically Made Ws15s Engine for J20s which Chinese are Using Now a days in J20s But DCs doesn't added those .. DCS Also Didn't Added the JF17s Blk 3 DCS is Now Getting behind When it comes to updates They are Missing Manny things in Each an Every Years ....
Hi Cap, I think this is a cool new dynamic. I have a question re. your previous video, F-22 vs JAS Grippen, and I was really shocked to see the Raptor get smoked by the grippen this way. I was a bit incredulous to be honest. I then saw a vid Growling Sidewinder did in which he, as a pretty well renown dogfighter in the same matchup, was smoked driving the grippen... I think he only survived beyond the first 'one circle' after the merge once. Not sure which F-22 mod you guys were using. I dont know if there are multiple F-22 kits... Would you pls kindly let us know whose kits you guys are using? Apologies if you are doing this - I must be missing this part. Cheers!
It's a difficult to compare fights in these mods, a lot of them have several versions and they are open coded as far as I can see, as an example I just opened the LUA file on the raptor to experiment with it and removed the AoA limiter in there, and now it can do somersaults. I think you just got to take the mods with a MASSIVE pinch of salt, treat them as fun toys only, and only treat the official planes properly, you can't edit those ones as far as I know.
@@grimreapersto preface the following: i don't have DCS as yet since I don't quite have a rig I feel capable of competently running it... So the obvious follow up question to your reply: what's to stop you or anyone from cheating? my guess is this is regulated by the server and it's governing rules, yeah? I hear grannili F-22 is the widely accepted representation... I know that they also gave it a few updates etc, all of which I am sure you already know. 😉 Many thanks, for taking the time to respond.
Cap, such blanket statements are not correct. There are free EFM mods. And there are SFM mods that do things right and well, and those that do not. It's the maker and the time and resources put into it, not the type of FM used. Someone making a UFO SFM would do the same with EFM. It has to be a case by case, not blanket. I'll put it this way. SFM is "standard", as you know. Means it was the original. And a former RAF pilot I used to hang with online swore up and down how LOMAC was realistic. Then I proceeded to get the A-10 'stuck' in the air in an inverted stall. SFM. Difference is I was a non-licensed n00b monkeying around, and he was a professional who kept it between the proverbial lines (also he was focused on the systems modeling too). He would never see the situation I did for that reason. And, those SFMs were done with care and attention to detail and accuracy. Basically, flown as intended, a well done SFM will be close enough.
To the extent that such things can be / or are made to be realistic is the first place, is there an educated idea on how realistic / accurate the jf17 mod is to the real life jf17 of the corresponding block; or, anyone know atleast how realistic the jf17 mod is relatively to how realistic other DCS mods for similar fighters are (to their real life equivalents)?
I don't understand if the actual F-22 has thrust vectoring... And to say they dialed down one is more realistic is kinda nonsense since most of it is classified and there no actual way of knowing what's closer to real life so by that logic there no point in having an F-22
I know it's stupid but I am trying to keep things different to the other creators, so figured low level scene merges would be something different, and still fairly realistic.
"Hey J-10, what's your stall speed?"
J-10: "I don't understand the question..."
Stall speed? What is that?
Good luck to RC, hope he stays safe.
What happened to em?
@@SilentKiller-bf2ps Cap mentioned it in video
@@bearcatracing007 this one? Or another
@@SilentKiller-bf2ps he's a volunteer firefighter in California for those who aren't paying attention
@@Duvstep910 oh wow
I'm pretty sure I here that G warning in my sleep.
Aubergine, aubergine, aubergine!
@@swede178 Still have that stuck in your head? 😁
@@jcjammer8972 haha! Indeed, you had such an impact on my life xD
Does every Chinese DCS mod come over-seasoned with fantastic power bias?
Think so..
Does every F-22 DCS mod come over-seasoned with fantastic power bias?
Gotta earn those social credits.
lol possibly
@@yam2278 Don't lie, you know you like it so salty ;)
I knew RC was a cool guy, now I know he's a hero with cold forged titanium eggs.
The greatest faith respects you Sir.
yes he is.
Mostly Pakistanis and Indians fans Want to See
J10c. Vs. RAFAEL
JF17 Blk 3. VS. Tejas
J10c vs. Su30
12:45 very correct😂
Stay safe RC, and hopefully keep others safe too :)
Miss you already RC! Stay safe and hi from Jamaica🇯🇲
I am not an expert, but the J10 has been overmodelled if it is turning like that. Also the flying doesn't seem great from the Felon driver, he reversed turns at wrong times and did not pre flare.
agree
When we stall in a sfm plane (outside the su57 that tokyo drifts in the air) is a huge danger, literally stands still until you start falling in reverse 😂
rgr
Hi how would the 30 JF17's just purchase by Argentina vs the 4 UK Tempest over the Falklands?
nice one so far love the match up :)
Will you j-10C, it features smaller RCS, better engines and trust manouvering vector
I wonder why these dogfights are starting on the deck. Are we trying to eliminate fights devolving into a downward spiral to make them quicker?
Neg, I want to deviate from the other vid-makers, show something different.
Any chance of a donation link to the volunteer fire department that RC volunteers at so we can support them with RC?
Great idea. will ask when he gets back next time.
Did someone say over G
Stay safe RC, thank you for your service
Would't it be more realistic using the R73M or the R74 on the Su57 that using the quiet "old" R73?
Only 73 I am pretty sure. But apparently we were using and older version of the mod.
I kept looking down at the CC's expecting youtube to think she's saying "AUBERGINE! AUBERGINE! AUBERGINE! AUBERGINE! AUBERGINE!"
Great video and thank you guys.
Would like to see smth like a Taiwan battle.. at the Marianas map maybe?! 😅I've heard that the US sent 28 F-22s to the pacific so i guess they will probably meet some J-20s soon...
Regarding the series with dogfights: I really appreciate that you do your fights at low level altitude! Not only is it more exciting, but it seems that you're also the only channel that do so. And as everybody knows, handling isn't the same on 35k ft as it is on 700 ft.
I agree that it looks cooler and that it is original but keep in mind that it rids the fight of a lot of dogfight tactics that rely on dumping altitude for speed which increases the skill ceiling but also makes airplanes that loose energy quickly pretty useless in these low lvl fights as they can't do what they're good at. Still in every type of fight youll always favor someone but I still think that starting a bit higher up is more fair and also more relevant realistically because even tho the chances of modern aircraft dogfighting is slim if they happened you would probably want to start with some altitude most likely.
I just wanna know where cap sees the "A" in Felon.
XD I know it's just accent just makes me say waaa?
Every Brit I've heard say 'felon' pronounces it the same way Americans and Canadians do. Did Cap think 'Felon' was the Russian name for the plane instead of the NATO reporting name, maybe?
I'm british and Cap is saying it weird.
@@DavesLittleBits I see, I'd just assume something innocent to start with but glad to know its just cap being well, cap.
@@shannonnezul4903 lol yeah. Must be a whole dictionary of Capisms now.
I thought it sounds so much better than "fell on". Faylon sounds like a futuristic battleship.
lets see of j10a goes with f 22
Valued viewer request #1: Cap, please do the F-16C vs F-15C
rgr
RC stay safe California fires are no joke. I love the videos you put out they’re all informative and entertaining. All hail the Most Supreme and Excellent Leader Super Cap.
lols
Can’t you use the R-73M with the Su-57?
Only 73 I am pretty sure. But apparently we were using and older version of the mod.
You are paid by Chinese govt?Otherwise you would fight J20 with S57.
You want J20 vs Su-57?
I am Surprised that's DC Still Doesn't Added that J10c with Ws10 Engine With there Original Low RCS ...
DC Also Didn't Added the Original J20s with there Origanl Made Specifically Made Ws15s Engine for J20s which Chinese are Using Now a days in J20s But DCs doesn't added those ..
DCS Also Didn't Added the JF17s Blk 3
DCS is Now Getting behind When it comes to updates They are Missing Manny things in Each an Every Years ....
Marianas campaign!!!! Yes!!!!! Now! We needs it!
Fun to watch :)
those modern planes are fighting with machines guns?
Is this su57 pilot playing first time?
yes. Literally.
Keep up the great work!
Hey Cap, I think you might have been over G during some of those manoeuvres. Hope that helps 👍
I didn't notice!
Hi how are you doing??
And I just subscribed
Welcome Sir!
Blackout "Stupidly modeled" hahahaha
Hi Cap, I think this is a cool new dynamic. I have a question re. your previous video, F-22 vs JAS Grippen, and I was really shocked to see the Raptor get smoked by the grippen this way. I was a bit incredulous to be honest. I then saw a vid Growling Sidewinder did in which he, as a pretty well renown dogfighter in the same matchup, was smoked driving the grippen... I think he only survived beyond the first 'one circle' after the merge once. Not sure which F-22 mod you guys were using. I dont know if there are multiple F-22 kits... Would you pls kindly let us know whose kits you guys are using? Apologies if you are doing this - I must be missing this part.
Cheers!
It's a difficult to compare fights in these mods, a lot of them have several versions and they are open coded as far as I can see, as an example I just opened the LUA file on the raptor to experiment with it and removed the AoA limiter in there, and now it can do somersaults. I think you just got to take the mods with a MASSIVE pinch of salt, treat them as fun toys only, and only treat the official planes properly, you can't edit those ones as far as I know.
@@grimreapersto preface the following: i don't have DCS as yet since I don't quite have a rig I feel capable of competently running it... So the obvious follow up question to your reply: what's to stop you or anyone from cheating? my guess is this is regulated by the server and it's governing rules, yeah? I hear grannili F-22 is the widely accepted representation... I know that they also gave it a few updates etc, all of which I am sure you already know. 😉 Many thanks, for taking the time to respond.
Cap, such blanket statements are not correct. There are free EFM mods. And there are SFM mods that do things right and well, and those that do not. It's the maker and the time and resources put into it, not the type of FM used. Someone making a UFO SFM would do the same with EFM. It has to be a case by case, not blanket.
I'll put it this way. SFM is "standard", as you know. Means it was the original. And a former RAF pilot I used to hang with online swore up and down how LOMAC was realistic. Then I proceeded to get the A-10 'stuck' in the air in an inverted stall. SFM. Difference is I was a non-licensed n00b monkeying around, and he was a professional who kept it between the proverbial lines (also he was focused on the systems modeling too). He would never see the situation I did for that reason. And, those SFMs were done with care and attention to detail and accuracy.
Basically, flown as intended, a well done SFM will be close enough.
So now this is possible after "Strike Fighters Modern Combat".
Where's the thrust vectoring things??
Not in DCS
@@grimreapers but Growling sidewinder fought an Su-57 that has working thrust vectoring ._.
3rd engagement, I think he split his throttle in the felon.
The felon does thrust vectoring. The felon should do that for you.
OverGee warning - Daddy, why does your computer keep shouting "Aubergine"? Loving the vids - look after yourself RC, stay safe.
hmmmm yummy Aubergine
The J10 cockpit is fake.
To the extent that such things can be / or are made to be realistic is the first place, is there an educated idea on how realistic / accurate the jf17 mod is to the real life jf17 of the corresponding block; or, anyone know atleast how realistic the jf17 mod is relatively to how realistic other DCS mods for similar fighters are (to their real life equivalents)?
whens another VS cvbg ?
Oh yah that J-20 gotta be super annoying in dogfights😂 just too much noise
agree
I was just wandering why you dont show the sqadron regroup and land in formation like the old with the. Music in the back group
Stay safe RC.
3rd comment... Cap could you have a setup issue with your stick as u seem to have same pitching issue with both planes??
Only does it with the mods, no problems with the normal modules, weird...
@@grimreapers Didn't you have a similar issue with the Tomcat until you flattened the stick sensetivity curve?
Dear Cap,
can you do the Su-33 vs the F-18, please?
yes!
I don't understand if the actual F-22 has thrust vectoring... And to say they dialed down one is more realistic is kinda nonsense since most of it is classified and there no actual way of knowing what's closer to real life so by that logic there no point in having an F-22
Does have TV in real life. Not in game, at least not the publicly available mods.
Make video j10c vs f22
Empty weight Su-57 has a T:W of 3
why the female robot keeps repeating "aubergine, aubergine, aubergine,..."?
"zucchini, zucchini, zucchini....!!
Ripcord, thank you for your service. Please send video! Cap, please pass this along.
he reads comments :)
Lmao the J10 stalls at 40kts 30000ft+
So does a very high Cessna...
2nd comment!! in tacview what G's r you pulling during the "overG"??
To black out this hard he probably took 9 or more
Next time I'll leave the game bar on so you can see my parameters.
Next mig 15 vs f22
Take a drink whenever the FCS calls Over G.
Wow! you get drunk fast...
Cause of death..... OVER-G!
Ove G, over G, over G UBER G!!!...
Valued Viewer Over G Over G Over G Over G Over G Over Over G Over G Over G Over G Over G Over G 😂
J-10 vs F-16
F16 has a PFM but the J10 has an SFM do the J10 will win since it doesn't have a realistic flight model
@@snux7364 damn, it would be something I would love to watch since J-10 is like a delta wing copy of the F-16
@@SWBB1000 kinda agree with you. But I rather see the J-10 as a single engine version of the Eurofighter
Sadly they are really compatible match in DCS :(
OVERG OVERG OVERG OVERG OVERG OVERG OVERG OVERG......the video
These planes must be modeled by certain usaf haters 😂.
“Ya the j10 can totally trash the f22! Ya!”
"Are you dead?"
F22A vs Su57 pls!!
Ok will do tomorrow :)
@@grimreapers you should be in su57)))
@@grimreapers thank you so muchhh
I don't know which one is worse, the constant over G or his sanctimonious English accent
lol
Cap why do you do your dogfights at low level??
I know it's stupid but I am trying to keep things different to the other creators, so figured low level scene merges would be something different, and still fairly realistic.
@@grimreapers thats cool I just wondered, makes it a lot easier to go splat into the dirt...or water!
F-35 vs SU-57 ?
Will when F-35 is fully released in few months.
That match was pure bullshit. Simba let you win. I understand the politics behind it tho.
Hi
It's scripted...su 57 not want to shoot
In real training Chinese J10 C beat Chinese su 35 15-1.
Felon = fell lin
J10 = IAI LAVI
Make video j10c vs RAFALE