2 BIG problems with the Outremer 52
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ม.ค. 2025
- The Outremer 52 catamaran is a nearly perfect blend of comfort and performance. We love almost everything about it! DID WE FIND OUR NEXT BOAT?? As you'll see, there are two MAJOR problems!
Our friends Holly and Stèphane recently took possession of their new Outremer 52 called AWEN and invited us along for a few days of sailing and relaxation. You can follow their adventures on TH-cam channel - / @sailingawen .
For more behind the scenes, join our amazing community on Patreon - / theokellys
"the boat is happy" and so are the O'Kelly's !! The smiles on your faces tells us everything!
Oh yeah!
I wonder how many Outremer purchase decisions this episode will influence bc you guys should be new Outremer brand ambassadors .. really genuine episode !
Well, if they get more orders because of the video, they deserve it. They built quite a boat.
That'll push delivery out even further...@@TheOKellys
At first I didn’t know what you were talking about. I read “Out-Remmer”.🫣
If ever there was a more prescient comment than this one I have yet to find it.
It's the same with houses - as soon as you look at new builds you can't go back to second hand. Buy one, life is short! Be happy.
Gorgeous boat! 😍 Thanks for bringing us along virtually! :)
We gotta chase you guys down for more dance party!
Magen was so happy being on the Outremer 52, happy wife, happy life.
The smiles say it all. You guys need one.
4:00 - Liking the dark trampoline mesh that lets you see the water beneath you. Sounds like the user-friendliness, performance, and ergonomics of this boat may have captured at least a part of you.
I love this video. I would like to expand on "sail trim being more trouble than its worth". On a day sail, maybe. On a passage .... you got nothing but time, and getting an extra knot of performance (sometimes much more) is worth it. Not to mention - learning about sail trim and really understanding what is going on will make you a better, safer sailer.
Yep, agree. Not everyone feels that way though. Set it and forget it is some peoples' montra. Not ours, but some folks are good with just making progress.
What a beautiful yacht. You can tell they are one with the boat.❤
The joy captured here was contagious. I’m still smiling, thank you for sharing.
🙂🐿🌈❤️
I'm so glad! We still smiling too
With the Outremer 52, Megan has discovered her very own version of La Dolce Vita.
Such a fantastic boat, for the fantastic O'Kellys.
Awwwww, thanks. We are two lucky dogs, that is for sure
This is definitely a good fit for you two - haven't seen you this calm and serene on a boat in over a year! Beautiful craft - something on this boat for each of you! And the money - as a senior myself remember - can't take it with you!
Can't take it with you....that is for sure!!!
Great Video
… Informative
… Educational
… Top notch video storytelling
… Smooth editing
Nice owners, nice crew, nice boat, nice video. Thank you all.
'the boat is happy'. Soooo glad you didn't let that just slip on by. Thank you.
Yeh it’s a really apt description from a sailor who knows what that means.
Great explanation of the physics of trimming the sails!
Thank you!
+1...I miss the O'Kelly didactic episodes with infographics!
When I saw the headline, I knew the answers to both - cost and lead time. Bummer. The 3D sheeting looks AMAZING. When you showed it on the ORC, it looked complicated because it wasn't actually attached to anything. Now seeing it in action, it makes so much sense. Getting rid of traditional genoa tracks would be fantastic. Major drawback is that they will have to replaced where a track lasts virtually forever. I've been racing on a boat with those North 3Di sails and they are incredible. Great video as always - thanks guys!
Hey thanks. Yeh there is no reason why anyone couldn’t do 3d sheeting….gonna cost a few bucks but I’d put it on for sure.
The aesthetics of that performance cat are incredible. I love it.
Can totally understand why you fell in love with the 52' - Awen is one BEAUTIFUL boat ! And so lovely that you were able to share time on a friends (early Patreons) craft - rather than a manufacturers demo one. I just hope that Outremer are able to work something out with you - to help with the cost and lead time, in return for being possible brand ambassadors...? 🤞 Anyway, it is just great to see you both out on the water again. Enjoy !
Looks like Outremer knocked it out of the park with the 52. Such a great boat with a balanced design throughout. Comfort, speed and reliability all in a great looking package, what more can one ask for?. Still a bit tight for me on the inside but it looks extremely well built and must be fast. Wishing you a similarly great boat to sail and live on in the near future. Fantastic episode!
I love watching you two sail again, the JOY is palpable! ❤😊
I've read about the boat in various places so was excited to see your video. Quite simply Holly and Stèphane have themselves a truly awesome yacht and it is so clear they love it and you both enjoyed your time with them. It is no surprise that there is a decent waiting list and I doubt there will be any on the 2nd market anytime soon! Pleased you are enjoying the Med as there is so much to enjoy there on the water. Happy birthday to Nick and enjoy Paris.
Thanks Peter!
Wishing you LOTS of Miracles-I see you in this boat. It’s beautiful!
I think i prefer that to the HH (sorry Wynnes) you gotta get her one Nick she looked so happy on it. Anyway great vid as always big love from Wales.
Thanks mate, you never know!
It is a beautiful boat but I also understand the reluctance to commit due to the lead time so good luck on your hunt for the next boat. Looking forward to your next episode.
You guys are awesome, I love it.
It’s t tv season here in Canada, looking forward to catching up.
Can’t wait to see.
And the ppl you visit are so awesome as well.
Wow! Thanks again.
Thanks folks. Outremer has vastly improved their interior design and made it far more rational and humane. Still not my favorite but much better than before.
Really good overview of sail trim and the lack thereof, etc.
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
7:56 this genoa setup is amazing, yeah the 52 is the one!!
Can I just say how much I appreciate the upload on Saturday morning! It seems like everybody uploads on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Sundays with some on Fridays. Then I get up on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays with nothing to watch! 🤣😁😁 That looks like a beautiful boat, but I am only a little way into it. You can expect several comments from me. Instead of editing, I figure comments count, and I can't see anywhere where TH-cam says they don't count multiple comments by one person. So why spend time editing over and over... By the way, I am the Sj who has commented a lot before. 🤪
Thank you, we're so happy you like Saturday!
Jeeeez,
Put a ring on it already!
Am i the only one that has noticed we are almost 💯 thousand to be subscriber of the O'Keylee🎉
Woah!!!! Here we gooooooooooooo! Whoop Whhoop!
I just noticed that “Planet Sail” has a video on this exact same boat on their channel from two months ago. I wish you guys would luck out & find something that you’re in love with, like this Outremer 52!! It’s strange I’ve seen this boat in so many places, I think it was tied up when someone else was doing sea trials but I remember everyone feeling like they needed to explain it, probably because it was so nice….
I dont know why you guys dont have more subs. Thank for another great episode Good luck with the boat search which ever way it goes.
That is one beutiful boat! Happy birthday Nick.
Why thank ya!
Cant wait to see your new outremer 52 😊
I love the look of this video. Its so easy on the eyes. Well done :)
interesting sail dynamics....great explanation.
Thankyou 👍
Amazing boat, wish they made it in Alu with shaftdrive. Thanks for a really nice vid🏋🏻♀️🤟🏋🏻♀️
The same group that owns outremer also owns Garcia, specialised in aluminium, they have a 50 feet cat. If l remember well it's called the explocat 52.
You both looked and sounded like this is the BOAT FOR YOU 🙏
Great video, great boat, hope you get one soon!
What to do in the meantime? Make a bunch of money 💰!!!! Go for it O’Kellys!!!!!
Good idea!
Happy birthday Nick🎉🎂🎁
It is so nice to be able to sail in those "Champaign Conditions". I wish a used Outremer 51 was in my price range. I think that Versahelm is awesome.
Love to see you sail in 20knots of speed across some oceans. Good luck with Outremer😊
I enjoy your channel and your journey so much! Keep your videos coming!
❤❤❤ love you guys! Good luck! I hope you find your dream boat soon!
Wow crazy wait time. Fun video!
LOVE THE BOATTTTT❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Greetings from Portland
- Theo
THEO!!! We miss you, thanks for the note!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
When I started sailing in dinghies then oved up to bigger boats it was frustrating sailing cruisers or even cruiser racers. Moving to performance boats be they monohulls or cats it really is a revaluation. The controls are designed to be easy to use, to give many adjustments to get the right sail shape and you can really feel the changes as you trim and with great sails you can see the shape of the sails much better a d what the controls are doing to that shape. Personally I think you learn much more in a performance boat, about sail trim and how this affects your speed. I hope you can find a cat that will give you the obvious enjoyment that sailing the Outremer 52 did. Andy UK
Yep, once you can really dial things in and know what that looks and feels like, it's a little hard to go back isn't it. Thanks Andy.
You fit so well on this boat..or is it the boat suits you best. I’ve always imagined you on an Outremer! You have some of that ‘Je ne sais quoi’! French suits you, so really happy to hear of your Paris celebration. Happy birthday 🎉.
Yup… 2 BIG problems! Place an order and make do with another in the mean time 😢…
NICE. Nick you missed the obvious, the Black sails. I had to look it up, but I was surprised at all the advantages, aside from the cool look. Higher speeds, glare reduction, durability, weight, strength ( carbon) UV protection?
BTW, aside from U2, my favourite sailing channel is Cat Great Circle. They have new Outremer 55 and are currently sailing around the world on the Outremer rally. Maybe you can join them on a Leg, as crew.
Cheers from yyz
Hey maybe, you never know. North makes some pretty "canvas" don't they?
@@TheOKellys p.s. my only beef with Outremer.
$1.7 million and I can't get a proper bed. Reminds me of crawling into a V berth. At my age, a little ease of access. For example forward raised bed with side access on a gunboat . Aside from that it's fine.
Wow! What a boat! You look good on it! Go for it! Happy Birthday! Tres bien!
It must be a pretty special boat!
Wonderful to see you both so relaxed and enjoying such an awesome boat! Maybe ask Matthieu if you can take a walk around the factory too whilst you are pretty close to Grande Le Motte, as both the Outremer and Gunboat factory are there and the boats being built are stunning to see!
Great idea! In fact, should be in the next video if all comes together!
@@TheOKellys 👍❤️
Hi guys. It is an amazing boat but then for the price and the wait, it better be. So I had an idea that maybe you would consider something other than a Outremer. Sometimes our consciousness gets fixated on one idea when there are others that get to the same goal just as well. Just suggesting gently and respectfully because I am very impressed by you. I know you have looked at a lot of boats so I am not suggesting anything either, just jumping up and down with pom poms and cheering you along.
Well, wish you guys had one…😊 and what great people to do this😊
Brilliant and sounds promising
Loved the geek airodynamic analysis.
Thanks Bill. Hope all is well!
Really like the halyard lines positioned separately. This is done often in other designs, but Outremer has figured out how to get them in close proximity to the Helm, yet out of the way. Asymmetrical cockpit is really sweet as well. But my biggest takeaway is learning of 3D Sheeting. I made a barber hauler for our previous cat (Helia 44), but never occurred to me that something could be setup permanently, and just bypass the tracks all together. Going to think about this for our Leopard 42. Do they have separate clutches for those two lines? And I guess you just used both winches; one for the working jib sheet and one for the 3D Sheet?? Also, I can't exactly tell where they positioned the blocks on the coachroof, port and starboard. Are they positioned somewhere along the placement of where traditional tracks would be found? Sorry for peppering so many questions, but this is super cool. You need this boat. But you'll need to brush up on your French. Remember, it's Bob, not Bob. Or is it Bub? 🤣
Sweet boat. Love the layout, the sails!
Thanks a lot O’kelly’s! You’ve ruined me for any other boat but an Outremer 52!
Just kidding. However, you’re excellent video review and tour of Awen sure is going to make it hard to settle with an older boat. Keep the great videos coming!
Beauty of a boat! 👍👍
Great show... so much great information.
You have no choice now ! There’s only the Gunboat 68 left 🌊
After so much disappointment, great to see a bit of joy..
Looks like you found tour new boat just got to get your hands on one.🤞
I was just watching your review of the Seawind 1260 from three years ago - It had the same two problems.
Certainly a nice cat 🤩. You are lucky to at least enjoy it for a short period 🙌. Cheers!
boat does compliment the O'Kelly's, agreed.
Does anyone else cook aboard? I adore you and Awen. I appreciate the design, Grand Large and the mix of polyester layers combined with a vinyl ester outer layer to save money. The addition of CF where it matters. Outremer knows how to build the design and, can’t believe I am saying this, keep the price in line.
But how can anyone put a cooktop in the back corner of the counter top? And French is the home of cuisine. For the love of cooking, am I seeing this on a French boat?😂 I may need to ask AWEN as they seem to enjoy cuisine as well.
Yes. That's exactly what really bothered me when I saw the 52 for the first time. Why the hell did they banish the stove to the farthest corner? As strange as it sounds, it's pretty much the only criterion why I prefer the 55. 😅
Didn't notice that, but I'd probably put it in the corner too. If space is at a premium I'd put the cooktop in the out of the way area to free up the rest.
@@TheOKellys that is surely why they did it, space is at a premium in all boats me thinks. Compromising is the name of the game.
I’m 5’2” with short arms and I can cook just fine. If the cooktop is centered in the counter, there would be very little prep area. It’s not what we are used to seeing on land but it’s a practical matter, as are most things on boats😂 -Holly
@@SailingAWEN thanks Holly. That will help alleviate some doubts about the gallery functionality. Cheers. Subscribed😊. I am leaning Allures 51.9 and love the way Grand Large Yachts is taking care of business.
If you guys are still in the Med come see us in Palma to see our very different family liveaboard performance cat, Komotion. Great boats are still out there and don't have to cost millions or keep you waiting for years! Sometimes you just need to widen the net a little and see potential where others see drawbacks!!
Nick, the way you say “Outremer”, drips with Joy and Respect. Your loyal followers surely noticed this years ago. And Megan has never looked so happy. Either she is pregnant, or you’re getting an Outremer! Out with it already.
Just turned 50, get one in '26, still gives you a good 40 years of sailing with it! Worth the wait. Get jobs on Sailing Below Deck in the interim to keep you busy.
I’m working on my washboard abs as we speak. They gotta let us on this season! Lol. Cheers mate!
There's one anchored next to me right now in Suva. Beautiful, full carbon mast, cross beam, boom stanchions. French flagged.
Brilllllliant ‐ thanks for sharing ⛵️ 👍
My oh my! Sailing on these great boats is going to make it that much harder for you to settle on something less. Be careful….😎😊
Welcome to the "I dream of O52 club"!😂
Nice dance moves. love the video
Thank you 🤗
Hey, what did Nick get out as? he was a pilot right? (does he ever miss flying? or does the sailing fill that void) - we have have several years of obligations left (likely going for 23 years) - we're doing our calculations to estimate how our pension takes care of daily and monthly... we're putting back long term to go sailing and make a purchase... instead of the typical VA loan and 30 year house mortgage type thing. I really appreciate the tone of your channel compared to many of the others that are overtly acting and emotional, drama, etc. However many of the manufacturers simply don't have great videos and it's channels like yours that we comb through to see the details and hear the perspectives, the subtle details and comparisons.. such as the sail trim was really key. so far the this boat Outremer 52, Seawind 1190 Sport (with major modifications), and Rapido 50 are our contenders...
Get out as? Get out of the rat race? I am a meteorologist. I used to work on TV, many many years ago. Yes, I’m a pilot. I do love flying, but sailing and flying….need a trust fund to do both. If we don’t end up buying another boat, you can bet we will buy a plane. Appreciate the kind comments about the videos. We really dig filling in the blanks for folks who are game to come out here and do it. It’s a great lifestyle and there’s endless opportunity to learn….and that’s how these little “lessons” come about. Learned about 3d sheeting from James on the ORC then Stephane on the 52 and thought….hey, awesome idea, solves a big problem we’ve had…so I bet others out there would want to learn as well. So, it’s all about passing along the knowledge when there’s an opportunity. Cheers! And….don’t wait forever to come out and do this….
@@TheOKellys ahh, I'm sorry I thought you were a pilot in the Navy lol. Awesome insight, we certainly want to, who knows maybe down the road we (figuratively) bump into each other lol! current obligations have us land locked for right now. your advice is heartfelt though, so we will go out on coastal trips asap! (plan is to eventually retire into blue water liveaboard, circumnavigate) *gave y'all a sub -not something I really do but I like y'alls vibe and channel tone.
First! Fair winds O'Kellys!
Bingo! Cheers!
I like how the captains seat puts you on shift with a big ocean view .
C’est tres bien! The happiness abounds in the content and comments! Thanks again for brightening my life, seriously.
Given your rough and ready proclivities, would you two be happy with such a luxurious and spectacularly performing cat? Besides, that great room space could result in an uncontainable explosion of freedom, ne serait-ce pas? (my sarcasm runs deeeep)
One concern beyond €s and backlog, the vertical front windows…will they survive a large wave? I know Nick’s weather savvy…but merde happens.
I wouldn’t worry about front windows. Those tramps are pretty much open, so you aren’t going to ship much of a sea from ahead. The great room? Lol. Je ne sais pas!
Would we be happy on that boat? Lol. For real….Lol.
We can always dream, right? Who the heck knows. The right thing will happen for us boat-wise.
Glad to have you along for the ride!
Wow, love that 3D Trimming! way usefull if you are going to 'sail' the boat!
Yep! And you could put that on any boat.
Beautiful
what is the size of the fuel and water tanks ?
Pre-gratz on the 50yr anniversy. I´m born on the same year.
50! We made it!
Nice Yacht. Nice vid. Perhaps you should talk to Sailing Nahoa who, are building their next cat, if your boat quest doesn't yield desired results
I know this might be a silly question...and is intended with humor... I was looking at Gunboats (updated) website and the new 70'er - they mention the sail plan as been updated for "Short Handed Crew"...What would Gunboat's definition of Short Handed be? 4 people or a couple? LOL. Money no object, would you go for the new 70' Gunboat?
Short handed on a GB70? Probably two crew. Insurance might require three. Not sure honestly...not a lot of experience in this realm. If money were no object....probably something in the mid-50ft range. If you get much larger, you really need to have crew or a captain...it's a lot of boat to keep up with for a couple. Would it be a Gunboat? Sure! I like their old 57 with the swing boards. Cool boat.
I think that boat would look good on you guys.
Ahh the Dream ! At 16t loaded up you can have everything you would want. But would you be confident at performance speeds and the load stresses over time?
Any way have a Happy Birthday .Can i find a supply of vneck tees in Ballina ??
Nice Vessel ~ If it comes with Holly lol 😅 Very nice couple. I hope you two can swing one soon actually. Itching to see nick fishing again 👍. The places make the life , the boat comes second imo. I miss Clarity ~ ❤
There is something serene about the design. One thing I dislike is the solar obstructing the view.
hope you can find a way to get one of these and until then, something else to keep you on the water.
Happy birthday!!! Isn't Sailing la Vagabon Outremer for sale?
Thanks. I think it is, but it’s too small for us.
No worries; when I hit the PowerBall this year we will be ordering one for me and one for you! This will justify reserving you guys for a year or two of personal sailing training and buddy boat traveling around the world!!
Deal!
@@TheOKellys For sure!! Maybe even get a couple of Rapido 's while waiting for our Cats!! I am for Real about this too!
Curious as to how you tack the large forward most Genoa around the jib headstay?
The gennaker? Best to roll it up to tack or gybe. If it were super light air you can pull through, but why risk the sail is our thinking.
12:36 that’s the money shot right there 🦶😂
I'm guessing price and wait list.