Fierce Commander Face-Off w/ Beky Bell | Extra Turns 19 | Magic: The Gathering EDH Gameplay
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Show Notes:
It's time to sling some powerful spells! See special guest Beky Bell challenge Command Zone's Josh Lee Kwai, Jake Boss, and Ladee Danger to an epic game of Commander! Only one can take the crown in this high-powered homebrew showdown!
It's Sythis vs. Orvar vs. Meren vs Edgar Markov
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Deck Lists:
Beky's Sythis:
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JLK's Orvar:
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Jake's Edgar Markov:
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Ladee's Meren:
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Credits:
Directed by: Josh Murphy
Edited by: Terry Robertson
Post Production Supervisor: Josh Murphy
Executive Producer: Josh Lee Kwai
Produced by: Ashlen Rose
Additional Editing by: Josh Murphy
Special FX and GFX: Terry Robertson
Director of Photography: Jake Boss
Sound Mix: Josh Murphy
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When Jake played that Coat of Arms, Josh's creatures became Yu-gi-oh creatures.
Josh: everytime I come across an infinite combo in Orvar, I take it out.
Also josh: *leaves peregrine drake in the deck*
This xD Easiest combo
This was also my comment seems we both thought of this went. "huh?!"
And Whim of Volrath. If you don't want it to combo, gotta cut the buyback.
For real
Heh, trueeee another vid where the special guest gets shut down and does basically nothing all game (looking back at the Holiday Bling ep with Arin from Game Grumps). Disappointed but was still a flashy game to watch.
Josh- "I built orvar trying to not go infinite"
Also josh "whim of volrath, sapphire medallion, peregrine drake....."
honestly, a nexus of fate would have been the cherry on top
He could have infinited with Mind Games off of Spellseeker, but chose to not infinite for one or two more turns
Mono U Combo Deck & no one at the table cares ... 🤮
@@jebadiahbowman3232 Proof that the only thing commander players like more than playing the game, is moaning and complaining about how others play the game
@@spudster8887 You can call it complaining, of course, however Game Knights, like Extra Turns, is an entertainment format for viewers. So, in my opinion, it is quite justified to discuss the content shown.
It's just not entertaining anymore when Josh always declares another deck to be completely overpowered and then wins with a combo (in a deck from which all combos have supposedly been removed).
There is often no one right play in EDH, but Deathsproud was highly questionable without prior conversation.
"Josh Lee Kwai plays his value engine without ever being interacted with" episode #31
He's an amazing deck builder when it comes to value engines.
Fucking love that type of deck, except when playing against it
@@uziboozy4540 This seems to just be copy-pasted the average on edhrec. Nothing really amazing here.
@@liddantheone didn't know that!
This is the Command Zone. Interaction on these shows is as rare as an invocation.
@@steelWindAlchemist there was plenty of interaction in this episode. Did you watch it, or are you just whining to whine?
I'm now imagining the timeline where Arachnogenesis resolves and suddenly there's a board of over 8.3 Million Spiders. I am both laughing and utterly terrified.
I WISH! It was my only hope
@@LadeeDanger it was still the best part of the video, even if it was countered. Great game!
With coat of arms
unfortunately, josh had too many counters.(also he probably would just make a billion untapped peregrine drakes)
Wouldn't there only have been 1666 spiders? Still terrifying but not AS. lol
Yet another round of "Oh, you let Josh play blue and didn't bully him out of the game?"
Me: So Josh ... how is your no-combo Orvar deck going ?
Josh: Not very good...
I mean, if he wanted a no combo orvar deck, maybe take out the repeatable clone
@@gheredin4074 or maybe take out Orvar. Kind of impossible to not build it this way hha
This was only going to go one of two ways; Everyone attacks the Orvar player until dead, or Orvar player wins.
You are not allowed to attack Josh. If you want to be inivited back on the show, Josh must be allowed to win against inferior decks.
Yep, Orvar is firmly in the list of commanders I will kill/attack the owner on sight. Nothing good ever comes from leaving Orvar alone.
Synthi could definitely contend. She just got mana screwed. I dont feel too bad for her tho with 34 lands. 36 should be minimum imo
@@VetisEQ Nah, with the draw power of that commander you could get away with 34 easily.
@@laynegrey2003 Why though? This deck is made to draw an insane amount of cards. So, hit your lands, draw your deck, play your deck with all the mana. Like, GG
Hey, after seeing someone cast Gamble with FORTY CARDS IN HAND and still discard the card they searched for, I believe anything.
What card was it?
@@jaymartindale3020 I don't remember... it was in one of PwP's (Playing With Power MTG) games. Can't find which one.
@@jaymartindale3020 LED
Cool
@@donaldduck6790 I mean, they were planning to discard their hand anyway...so is even more ironic!
The most disrespectful flex in commander. "Can I borrow your battlefield?" lol I love it. I'm using that one.
🤣🤣🤣
“Let the bodies hit the floor.” - lady danger. “WAHHHHH” - Waluigi
That’s funny haha 😂
Ugh so iconic
Seeing the Mel Li token, when are we getting another Game Knights with her? She was always awesome!
I agree
Yes! I miss Mel
They've kind of blown up since then and for some reason I don't think she moves the needle quite like Post Malone, the kid from karate kid the series or Sofia Vergaras husband.
I think she's working on LoR nowadays, might be a conflict of interest for her to appear on a WotC sponsored show.
@@jsum33 true but they often have one like “famous” guest and then one friend or staff
I have never seen a person about to go infinite get interrupted by someone who preceded to go infinite...... on not their turn these are the plays I live for
It's...the epitome JLK move.
You must not watch any cedh
You should watch more cedh
LOL My buddy did that with his Ghave deck in a CEDH game once :P
They saw him tutor for cyclonic rift though.
As soon as Josh started making copies of his lands every single red alarm started going off. If only the taurean mauler had been allowed to kill josh :(
Maybe I misunderstood, but when Jake cast the spell to give Flying to his bull, Ladee blew it up - but surely Jake could have used said bull to smash Beky before her Squirrel combo went off? I guess you can't predict the future and all, not sure it would have mattered anyhow.
Yup she should of waited who he was going to attack, very much doubt it would been her.
@@Herobizkit597 Solitary Confinement was still in play at the time, so yes Jake could have swung the bull at Beky, but it would have done zero damage
The red alarm sirens go off the second anyone is playing Orvar, that Commander is broken, no one should look at anyone until the Orvar player is gone. They can outvalue any deck with the buyback spells.
If she didn't kill it before equip it would mean he can draw X cards per X power
Last time I was this early to the show Vedalken Orrery was a budget card! 🤣
haha i was just thinking to myself "oh wow they just uploaded this minutes ago"
Last time I was early to something, orrery didn’t exist
Dang was thinking of selling mine. I have 2 m/nm never used conspiracy ones that was 40bucks last time I checked.
When the Markov deck plays 1 vampire 😂
Yea what the heck was that all about?
Josh’s artwork for the tokens he created with Orvar was the best thing in this episode!
After all these years it's nice to finally see Mel Li back on the show!
I do miss her a bit.
I dont care what else is on the board, im going straight for orvar everytime
someone could have a gun pointed at my head trying to steal my wallet but my first priority is still going to be bolting orvar
Josh's face at the end where he is just thinking about his life as he kills the table is priceless.
Not gonna lie, I love hearing Sun Titan yell “SUN TITAAAAN!”
Ladee's face @35:23 is all of us whenever someone just goes off.
That “let the bodies hit the floor” was a shot to my heart
and it's too late
"I purposley have tried to build so it doesn't combo off"
-JLK, The Best (and Worst) of 2021 | Command Zone #438 | Magic: The Gathering Commander EDH
"everytime it combos I take one of the combo pieces out of the deck"
-JLK, The Best (and Worst) of 2021 | Command Zone #438 | Magic: The Gathering Commander EDH
KEEPS PEREGRINE DRAKE IN THE DECK!
If he doesn’t have a way to repeatable blink paragon drake it doesn’t make infinite mana but for some reason he has winds of volrath which goes infinite with ovar in the cedh version
@@jasons9895 Any and all good orvar decks will run almost all of the efficient buy back spells that will fit. Josh's version especially needs them since its instant light for an orvar deck. You also need a win condition, and it turns out making infinite drakes is one such way to do that.
@@jasons9895 Saw the edit and agreed
Josh just want to win. Lying is just a kind of politics to him. F**k rule 0. It’s just a way for him to play against inferior decks. Again... just to win.
To be fair this was recorded BEFORE that CZ episode so he was referring to incidents like this
Ladee should have made a deal with jake to have him attack Josh with that swole mauler.
The moment she killed the red bull, she king made Josh.
Yeah this was bad threat assessment on her part, imo. That bull was definitely not going at her.
35:22 this is the expression that everyone has playing against a blue EDH deck lol.
We have 1 such player in our playgroup, whenever he starts doing his stuff and I don't have a way to disrupt it, I just stop paying attention completely.
@@sulevjaaniste5394 I usually scoop. If it's not an interesting combo and just another cookie cutter infinite, I'm wasting valuable play time letting you play solitaire with me stuck at the table. Time to shuffle up for a new game.
@@kylegonewild Fr. I have one buddy who will regularly take 5-10 minute turns, and runs a few cards that give him extra turns on top of that trying to set up some uninteresting infinity kill. Because of this I’ll often scoop a few minutes into these turns once my attention starts to drift. Either let me play or kill me, don’t waste my time. I really think turn timers should be more common
Sure, Josh could've sac'd Commander Sphere tokens to draw his deck and played Thassa's Oracle but swinging out with 5000 5000/5000 Drakes seems a lot more rad.
Ladee Danger really is a legendary creature.
No joke
She plays no draw, no ramp. She plays her legendarily bad Arena decks.
legendary as in she doesn't know how to play MTG?
For those who wondered how much damage Josh did in total, turns out the total is 25,004,994 points of damage.
Damage calculations after going infinite and choosing a finite number is less interesting. He could’ve easily made 25,004,944 drakes and done a good six hundred trillion damage instead, or made a google plex drakes and done an inconceivable amount of damage. Finding out how much you can do without going infinite is the interesting part, like Gavin’s video about the most amount of damage that can be done with only 3 cards and no infinite combos.
Is this the most damage done in any game knights episode?
@@Danothyus1 no, there has been an instance of infinite damage already in one of the first game knights episodes. As far as i know this is the highest instance of non-infinite (although it very much could have been infinite) damage though.
@@williamsalaets6884 I don't think it's at all possible to deal infinite damage, Infinity Elemental notwithstanding.
@@therealax6 Yes, if you dig deep into the mtg rulebook, it's technically impossible to do infinite damage. But given players use an "arbitrary large number", you might as well just call it infinite given it has the exact same purpose, sounds more impressive (both to win with and lose against) and tends to roll better off the tongue. But tbh this is just rule 0 talk. If you don't like the concept of infinite, talk with your game table and see if they are fine with infinite (arbitrary large amount) damage or not.
Ladee's shirt is dope, I need one lol. Legendary Creature
I made it myself ☺️
@@LadeeDanger start selling them please? Haha
@@LadeeDanger NEEEEEEEED
@@LadeeDanger well it's super cool 😎. Let the world know if you decide to make (and sell) more...if they also come in non crop top man sizes, haha.
@@LadeeDanger outfit and hair in this episode were 100
So, let's see. Ladee kills the minotaur that lets Josh stay in the game despite what clearly looks like BS infinite copy combo. And the Jake proceeds to place a card that literally makes Josh's creatures instant kill (I know its superfluous due to the number of drakes but still). Meanwhile, anytime Jimmy does anything slightly threatening he gets instantly targeted and killed.
I started noticing this a few episodes ago, but this episode just took it to the extreme.
Agreed, I don't understand why Josh isn't targeted more.
Josh really good at keeping his kill aura content aka pokerface unlike jimmy. His excited look ruined it for him
They need their jobs. Would you target your Boss, or just let him win?
@@jamesmoore1317 legit the only one that targets him is Ashlen. She makes a comment every time that he stays alive way too long and is so political and wins because of it lol. honestly if he's not target then they all deserve to lose
@@det06f006 i find Jimmy goes all out too early when he goes off. its either that or he does nothing, no in between
Josh literally always convinces then to target someone else then just combos off with infinite value once the answers are gone.
Meanwhile Jimmy decides to go off and force everyone to use the (player) removal on him first every game knights haha.
its smart of josh to do that. two of those people should know by now how josh plays his decks and how he politics. tbh its pretty impressive. and besides, i dont think they care too much anyways since im sure they all get their chances to shine when the camera is turned off
The fact that these people who work with him and play with him regularly continue to believe him is starting to push me outa this channel tbh 😒
Totally true sadly this happens every game that Josh is in and it ALWAYS works, how can they keep playing with him and still fall for that?
@@captaindaddd6055 They should care since for the audience the game that's being recorded is the one that matters
Can we please acknowledge that amazing Orvard-gosh from Ladee danger that went unnoticed? 😂🤣
Josh surely learned from Cassius.
This is pretty much the same of how he won with Palinchron, Urza and Thassa Oracle
Orvar goes infinite with a ham sandwich
Their introduction puns were all great, but "time to catch these Harvest Hands" has to take the cake for me
This is sadly how EVERY game with Orvar goes. Friend made this deck and was getting very annoyed that I wouldn't let him keep Orvar in play, I was slowly being whittled down by everyone else but I knew what would happen if i stopped. Finally i gave up and said the rest of the table could deal with him and started working on developing my own board state, but they refused to do anything about him. A turn later there were 10000000000 Archaeomancer's swinging out at all of us, three very confused looking faces and then me with a "WTF did you expect?" expression.
not to be toxic but i hate playing with players like that.
@@devashannaidoo6877 with players that know the danger of some commanders that are just in a different league compared to other decks... or are you reffering to players that do not know about how easy it is to make infinites in MTG?
truth is, regardless of which of the one you hate playing with, theres just some decks that need to be played on their respective table power and not to just pubstomp tables that run 4s, 5s or 6s
@@Furry19931993 the second type where they just let players get out of hand while they try to set up their own board.
Everyone: Yay, I play this! Wohoo, I did damage!
Meanwhile Josh: "Everything is power and I am everything. I, Nicol Bolas, will be your end!"
"I was told life is a highway!"
*Laughs in K'rrik*
That got me too!
Josh: I'm going to make some island tokens
Me: wait...... that's a thing? Interesting....
Orvar is Mono-Blue Ramp. Insane, I know, but it is a thing. In my version of the deck, I would copy Mystic Sanctuary to get back the spells to do it again and again. I've copied Spark Double so many times with Orvar, copying Orvar, thus hitting multiple Orvar triggers on one spell. It is fun creating 20 lands out of thin air, especially in a Blue deck.
You can make a token copy of any permanent, yes.
There are some cards that make some really weird tokens - I distinctly remember some Jace making a token copy of itself, which was definitely the first token planeswalker I had seen.
@@therealax6 - Jace, Cunning Castaway + Nicol Bolas, Dragon God + Oath Of Teferi = Opponent's decks exiled.
Older cards getting some love with Orvar. I keep a Talrand deck just for the sake of chucking those older MTG cards to call a home. I don't really care if it sucks but I am having a blast with a little bit of nostalgia when playing it.
Threat assessment in this game was soo on point. They knew exactly who to go after each turn. Yup..
Anybody but Josh.
Yep, no sarcasm at all in this statement
Happy New Year to all the Command Zone Crew!! Love all of the content, and I'm looking forward to what 2022 is going to bring from you all!!
I am always amazed at the chemistry of the command zone cast and with all their guests as well. Always a pleasure to watch the videos !!
I've seen what the Orvar deck can do on IHYD and it's not at all surprising how this game went. I will say it was fun to see Sythis pop off. Gave me some ideas for changes to my deck.
Very questionable deathsprout while everyone knew about the cyclonic rift ....
That was my first thought too...
Maybe shw went for the target that is most likely to let her spell resolve because she wanted the ramp? Still the threat assessment seemed terrible by the entire group this game. Focusing on the mana screwed Enchantress player while Josh is going off with Orvar was super sus.
#JustLetJoshWin #WantToKeepMyJob
Don't think Ladee knows how to play EDH very well. Been noticing her decision making during several episodes now. I really like her positive energy though. She is someone who is really fun and great to be around, but not your best teammate when you want to win a game of magic.
@@cjlee996 nah, this is a NTR channel about not letting Jimmy be happy and letting Josh win every time. It's on the contract.
The incredible ads in between the scenes are reminiscent of the 90's AMAZING TV RUN and I am all for it
I don't really have anyone to play MTG with and, frankly, I'm not that good anyway, but these videos are super fun to watch and I've been loving them. Thanks for posting. Happy New Year
Josh letting Blasphemous Act resolve was probably a merciful content play. Otherwise Venser would just turn all of his tricks into counterspells all while drawing 4 cards with every loop. Insane combo.
Ladee : Drowning Pool - Let the body set the flow !!!!! Legendary :)
These all seem like personal decks and faves of the players and it is always nice to see decks that depart from the most recently released commanders. Nice one!
beky: ima make infinite squirrels
josh: ok hold my beer. Ima make infinite monkey wrench drakes
Sythis is absurd, and I love it.
Josh's token game was absolutely on point
i am so excited to see Ladee play this holiday. Let the bodies hit the floor!
Is it because he’s their boss or why else would Lady AND Jake waste their removal on beky, while Josh has his commander out + a draw engine and the most lands in the game? This doesn’t make any sense
hey, ex-Game Knights staffer here. Josh is infamous for being a sore loser, so people tend to let him just do whatever he wants. Funny story actually, the reason I don't work there anymore is because I made the mistake of trying to convince people at the table to target him during a casual game. Jimmy is generally a cool dude and he's the one who consoles Josh whenever he loses, which is why he's the only one who you see target Josh in these videos.
After I convinced another player that Josh's value engine that was just sitting on the table was probably a more important target for removal than my mana dork, he took me aside after the game and gave me a long, teary-eyed speech about "bullying" and "harassment in the workplace", I think he had recently been crying because his face and armpits were obviously damp. I thought he was joking at first so I tried to play it off but he must've taken that as a challenge because he immediately took his shirt off and started trying to fight me. I eventually apologized but a few days later I got a text saying that they wouldn't need me around anymore. Dude still owes me my last paycheck too.
@@K9affirmative lmao did you just make this pasta?
@@K9affirmative this would be gloriously hilarious
@@K9affirmative who had the time and space to create this story lmao
I just put together a Meren deck!! I almost won the game I played, too! Not bad for a deck I threw together in 45 minutes! Fine tuning it and can't wait to unleash it again!
and this is why you kill Orvar, immediately. If the Orvar player gets to play the game, nobody else does.
Ladee's hair is on point!
Jake seems like such a good guy
After seeing these tokens: I do hope we get to see Mel on this channel again sometime.
Josh can win in his turn when he had in hand with Whim of Volrath targeting Drakes and the Boots infinite times :D
He could have done it much earlier with his first spellseeker trigger
I assumed he wanted to wait untill he had some counters on hand to avoid the combo to be ruined. He casted after to drew 30 cards so could play blink of an eye for solitary confinement and subline epiphany against arachnogenesis.
@@Fedenija maybe, I assumed he didn't want the game to end after 15 min
@@mrzhou7685 this
Josh making tokens of his lands is one of the craziest things I've ever seen
Watching these always makes me want to get really into magic again.
I didn’t realize we were playing Yugioh, with those stats at the end
The game was over, at the point orvar stayed longer than one turn on the battlefield. Its one of those commanders you need to take out on sight.
He will be one of the first targets even if you take combos out cause the value is just insane. Just a reminder that commander does allow you to ramp for one mana! On top of that spell played being mostly a cantrip and that being the "baseline".
Btw im not blaming any of the player, neither josh for building that deck neither the others for preparing, cause everyone seemed to have fun :)
Damn, y'all been pumping to end the year. Good stuff everyone.
An incredible showing by everyone! Loved that enchantment deck
Ladee wearing the most on point shirt in the history of ever! She is absolutely a LEGENDARY CREATURE!!!!!
I'm confused by the pre combat destruction of Tauren mauler. Just have him point it one of the players threatening infinite.
It might have been because he would have had Lifegain on it, which could have sent him past anything that they could have dealt with.
They tend to kill Lifegain usually right away on the show
@@baydenrobbinspriestley3133 you're probably right. I was looking at the board state and was surprised they didn't gang up more on Josh. He seemed like more of a threat than a lifegain big boy
I think it was just a spite play by ladee danger, there was absolutely no reason to do what she did.
@@hahalmfao69 I don't think that was a spite play. It might have been for the entertainment factor. But it didn't strike me as a spite play
First time watching extra turns. I love the speediness!
25:14 - "Or Var Gosh" ~Lady Danger
Iconic. Will be stealing.
What the hell was that focus on a player with 3 lands? They did an episode on how land drops are important
Everyone: Let's have fun!
Josh: [BS Deck Engaged ]
Happy New Year's gentlemen. I hope this year will be much better. Best of luck❤️
The eye-rolling in the first add is amazing.
I think that it would be cool to see an Extra Turns episode where everyone plays cEDH!
I look forward to Extra Turns even more than Game Knights.
Great game!
These are some exciting commanders to see getting played!!!
It doesn’t stop there , the value train keeps going. I was canning myself so hard when I watched that. You’re a funny guy.
@16:55 Man, I'd be targeting that sapphire medallion instead of islands at a certain point to really bring down costs instead of generate more mana. Let's see how this pans out.
Was hilarious watching Jake play casual value magic with Coat of Arms…while Beky AND Josh went infinite during Beky’s turn.
Um actually, they went infinite on Lady Danger's turn.
Surprise episode!! Exellent way to end the year
Wow! Explosive finish Josh! Well done!
4 op commanders, The Meren deck was super fair tho it looked like
Ms.Danger is the best person (besides the hosts of course) on the command zone. Her attitude is what sets her apart. You can even kill her but as long as it's a cool play she'll say "right on man🤙😂"
Love to see it! I do love the game 💚
Extra Titans is such a fantastic show!
Jake with some great synergy at the end. Very nice how all the vampires got +2/+2, really mattered
Josh revealed the buyback spell yet Lady Danger did not see the infinite combo and killed a vanilla creature. That's a lack of table talk. One player can miss it but no one calling it out is just bad.
Im a simple man, i see Ladee danger, she have a green/black deck, i watch, i like
I love how excited she gets whenever anything cool happens
Meren is probably my favorite deck. I love graveyard strategies so much. Though last time I played with my son he bojuka bogged me and I never recovered lol.
Omg that Edgar switch at the start 🤣🤣
Josh somehow found a way to play simic in a mono blue deck. Love it!
Rooting for Jake and his “Lost Boys”!
Never let the Orvar player go off, because the second they have a chance, they will explode and essentially win the game with how quickly they generate a crap ton of mana and ways to make their spells cost less.
*never let the Orvar player sit at the table with you
FTFY
I normally wait until the end to like the video (always try to) but that titan add got me in hysterics!
I watched game knights and extra from the first episode to the last episode in the moment they come out and I never missed one!
Making land tokens reconfirms my hatred for blue
Yeah, but remember "green is the strongest color in Commander", making Islands is just dumb.
Ladee is indeed a legendary creature😉
Those were some sweet decks. I like the race to combo at the end. Imagine if Beky had lands earlier. She probably would have gotten to Squirrels so fast!
The Titan investment sketch is slowly becoming a personal favourite of mine!