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- Today I'm at Premium Coach Group in Gilbert, Arizona, inspecting a 2008 Tiffin Allegro Bus. For me, I think these were as close to perfection in build and serviceability. Before everything got a bit too high tech and decor got too loud. But maybe I'm just old now. At any rate, obviously I'll look at the roof with you and then we'll peek inside. This is a gel-coat fiberglass roof of course using self-leveling silicone.
nuflex 311: amzn.to/3HaGx8G
Premiumcoachgroup.com
378 S Hamilton Court
Gilbert, AZ 85233 - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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❤❤ Thanks James for taking us along with you on this inspection. The things we learn that we just don't see or learn on other channels.
Hope you have a great Christmas. 👍
Thanks for watching!
I hope you know what a service you provide to the tens of thousands of people that must watch your channel I also live in Arizona and I'm a long distance truck driver getting ready to buy my first motor coach and like you I love to geek out over the little things that make a big difference! You remind me of my brother Les! He was the next level technician on everything from heavy equipment common cars to HVAC pretty much anything technical and I think that's why I love to watch your channel you have that same sort of passion of expertise so thank you for these videos they're more than helpful there a necessity!
Merry Christmas James and team, thank you all for being great teachers in RV Restoration. I think you realize some of us who love our campers and RV's really can't afford to hire you for repairs, so unselfishly you step by step show us how to do the repairs ourselves.. because of what you and the team do, I now have a new roof on my 2004 camper! For that I want to thank all of you.
Thank you very much
Hey that's great to hear! Thanks for watching!
I have that same coach, all gauges are down with the exception of air tanks which are showing 125psi, air buzzer is on at all times, any suggestions???
Thanks for the inspection and tour James. Happy trails!
You bet!
Its amazing when you see quality, Tiffin did things right. Merry Christmas James.
Thanks for watching!
I’m learning so much by watching your channel. I really appreciate your dedication to buying a used motorhome and things to watch out for. I think every decent dealership should employ your services as it definitely provides us with the security of knowing that you have gone over the coaches from top to bottom. Even private sellers should consider using your services. Thank you once again.
May 2022 bring you much happiness and success.
Thanks for watching! :)
Thanks for the tour! Seems like a lot more care was put into the construction of this coach than many that are built today. One could buy this coach and put a little refresh money into it and probably be better off then new.
Seems like buying "vintage" is going to be the way to go
Tiffins in that year group had 3 major issues. Roof rail separation, wet bay floor rotting and DS slide floor deterioration. These 3 should have been addressed by Tiffin in Red bay. Also leak at front door which can rot out the wood under the bottom step.
Sounds major to me and not much fun!
Love the logo shirt James! Tiffins are my overall favorites as well. They are a tremendous value new, compared to other high-end coaches, but their real value in my opinion is the used market, allowing you to get into a high-quality, proven coach at a reasonable cost. I would rather have one of these than a brand new production-level gasser for sure. Merry Christmas to you and your family James
Thanks! and Thanks for watching!
Thanks, friend!
Always good information, thank you . I hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video. Hope you and your daughter had a nice trip.
Great information as always. Can't get enough of your channel. Always learn useable stuff here. You have a no BS style that makes your comments valuable. thank you. I bought a used Tiffen. Wasn't maintained the best however it is pretty good shape, and we enjoy it a lot. Hope to catch up with you first of the year. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
I appreciate that! Tiffin is one of my favorites
Really appreciate the detail you provided, especially the tank construction. I wondered where they went looking under the bed, and you cleared that up at the end!
Glad to help! Thanks for watching!
Wow that’s cool the sun screen built in the awning I’ve never seen that. I’d like to have that feature on my KZ Connect
It is really cool
Very decent James what I find funny is that it has 2002 to 2005 Dodge Ram headlights on it a friend of mine had a class a with Dodge Ram tail lights on it have yourself a merry Christmas 🎄
At least they are easy to replace? lol Thanks for watching!
Being an automotive painter, and since it's black, I would sand that wrap over edge down real good to the paint line on the roof, you could put a thin coat of two stage plastic filler in the cracks, I would, but that is more sanding lol, then spray with some black epoxy sealer, and follow that with some black two stage black urethane, no clear necessary, I would also tape off the front and rear caps at the top over to where they start to roll over and paint those areas as well, that high up, you would never know, and on the caps it would be a faint tape line.
Glad I don't do paint! :)
@@AZExpert yeah, I wouldn't want to have to that either, I've never painted on anything that big, my hats off to the custom painters who do the higher end coaches. I will probably wind up with a dog on the outside, and will probably have to attempt it.
Nice inspection im looking for a 32-34ft newell, county coach, beaver or something similar
Thanks for sharing. I really enjoy your videos. Keep them coming.
Glad you like them!
Great video and guide to proper inspection!
Thanks for watching!
James I have purchased a 2010 Tiffin Allegro Bus 43QGP . I go and pick it up this Friday.
From the pictures I've see this motorhome really looks good. I have my Jeep Grand Cherokee ready to
flat tow back home. I got this motorhome for around 145k dollars. I have already ordered the TPMS tire monitor system
with 14 transmitters should be here by Thursday. I will let you know when I get this motorhome in my drive way and that
alone is going to be a task. Jeff Steele
Enjoy it
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. Xmas is here and I wanted to wish you a good one as I've been following you since last July, when I purchased my first RV.... A 2003 R-Vision traile lite 30ft RV. You've helped my roof maintenance education by tones! Keep up your great work and if you feel slightly inspired, in the future, it'd be great if you could make a video outlining the different caulking products and their uses as it pertains to the type of roof in use. Thanks again 😃
Thanks for watching!
You are a great dog rider! Love your show!
Thank you very much!
Merry Christmas to you and your family James!
Thanks! you as well
Loved that old 8v92 American Carriage you did on Tiktok.
Thanks for watching!
Merry Christmas to you and your family!!!
Same to you!
Thanks for the video! Oh, and by the way, I loved you in Slingblade!
"I reckon I like them Tiffins, mmm-hmm."
Thanks for watching!
great job as always
Thanks for watching!
Merry Christmas, James!
Same to you! Thanks for watching!
Love your videos. Love Tiffins and this video shows why. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Hey James we are over at Mesa Spirit again.
Great video.Not too dated. Honestly I would watch you review paint.
I appreciate that!
Ive had my allegro bay for 16 years i never knew that about kitchen table trim removal i just thought i had a bad design
🎅🎅🎅 Merry Christmas 2021 James! 🎅🎅🎅
Merry Christmas!
Another great video, Merry Christmas to you and your family
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas James keep up the good work
Happy holidays! Thanks for watching!
The real issue with these large bus style chassis are what you covered but the chassis components .air bags wheel bearings brakes steering links axles shocks suspension parts hoses engine oil leaks if someone drove it and had bad maintenance you have a money pit along with wiring problems inverters batteries and anything rubber that's aged out..ask me how I know been there done that nice video James happy new year
:) Thanks for watching!
My 02 badly needs front air bags and Koni shocks. $1400 for parts, plus labor, which is $175 per hour these days.
Xmas day in Australia and I am watching your videos
Thanks for watching!
Great...now I'm searching the interwebz for an 08 Allegro.
Merry Christmas!!
Thanks Frank! Thanks for watching!
Wow I wish my Tiffin had that.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you 😌...it job
Thanks for watching! :)
🎄🌟Merry Christmas James❤🌟🎄☃️❄🙋♀️🇨🇦‼️
Hi Jane! Merry Christmas!
Another great video 💪 we have a 08 contesa and the interior looks almost alike
Beaver is a great product
👍🏼.
Merry Xmas 🎄🍻
Thanks for watching!
Man that's a nice older rig!!!
It sure is!
Thanks for another great video, can you show us more of your inspection process?
Merry Christmas!
I have quite a few back in the library
Merry Christmas 🎁🎄😎🦅👍🇺🇸🎁🎄
Happy holidays!
Definitely like that year about the water tanks floors how many of you replaced quite a few
I've been looking at that year pre-deaf
Thanks for watching!
Great walk through! How was the outside water cabinet , was there any dry rot?
URL link goes to 4 pack of sealant. 50 buck$ price tag woke this old guy up. LOL Thanks. Tiffin has better roofs than Winnebago does for sure.
well one certainly wont be enough lol
Winnebago recently told me I had to use Manus 75AM where the radius connects with my J channel. 97 Vectra Gran Tour.
That is what they recommend. I have found that it turns into powder fairly quickly in the sun ater a few years. But it is much easier to clean off.
@@AZExpert Thanks for your response. I notice you use a couple of different products on these. I'll refer to my notes ... I take them ... this is like class and try them too. I got a couple tubes of 75AM already. They keep trying to sell me Dicor at places near me. Thanks again and we, the whole family, enjoy the show. We also wish you and yours a happy holiday.
Merry Christmas James! So for gelcoat fiberglass use the 311 silicone sealant you linked. Correct? Suggestion, you might show a roof wash and wax sometime. Up here in Missouri, the hard rain pretty much kept the TPO roof clean. Will see if the same is true for the fiberglass on our new used one. Best wishes to you and your family! Respectfully, Kevin
I don't usually do that for customers but if you are talking about which product, just a Maguires you can get from home depot will work
@@AZExpert Merry Christmas again James! Hope you had a good one.
Beautiful old coaches, with so many antiquated outmoded systems to fail and few spare parts or experienced techs i'd look but not buy.
Huh? Not really.
Well I'm in the waiting to sale everything and purchase my first motorhome. I live in Alabama and Tiffin is around 60 miles
for where I live. I want to purchase a Tiffin for sure and would be interested in purchasing an older one if I had to.
I'm looking for a 43 to 45 foot motorhome. With it being me and my wife that extra bathroom is almost a must.
L would love to purchase a Zephyr because of the engine size would make it easier to go up big mountains.
I wish I had just a fraction of your knowledge about roofs on motorhomes. If you were going to put in your own solar
system how would I know where to put screws and how deep should the screw be ? I'm scared that I might go into the
motorhome and look up and see my screws lol. I have and will be watching your video because they give and some ideals
that I need to do in order to keep my motorhome in tip/top shape. Thanks for letting me watch and learn from your videos !
You can see how thick your roof is through skylights and vents. You should be safe but I wouldn't recommend doing it yourself unless you are confident. Tiffin is one of my favorites
James: quick question if I may. Have a 2003 Tiffin phaeton and have an issue with the rear air pressure gauge (w22-00008-000 or 01 also KYS 6913001611 made by Borgwarner) in the dash. I think the gauge is not good but impossible trying to find the replacement (front or rear gauge not minding the printed label on it). I think they are obsolete. can not find anything compatible. what are the newer models are using as air pressure gauges ? is it possible to upgrade the air pressure gauges system as the ones being used on newer models ? thanks.
Thanks for the great video. I have a Tiffin and what do you recommend to clean the discolored roof sealant? I use 303 once a month to treat it
Is there a way or how do you fix the checking on the Tiffin walls? We bought an 07 Allegro Bus with some checking on the walls, the rest of the coach was awesome. Thanks for posting the videos you have helped me a lot.
Sorry, no, there isn't any way to fix it permanently. It will only come back
What size tv is up front on this year MH. Floor plan 40 qsp
Does this model of Tiffin have the same problem of the floor rotting out in the bays as the Phaetons do around the tanks? Oh yeah...almost forgot to wish you a Merry Christmas!
Thanks for watching!
Pretty cool awning and shade. Eat your heart out Carefree of CO.
lol Thanks for watching!
Do you have a list of the top things on a tiffin to look for? We have been looking at an allegro. Thanks
Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄❤. I found a 2005 Holiday Rambler Neptune Disel 32PBD. What are you though regarding the quality of those rv on that time? Someone mentioned on reviews that they have a rough time driving. I thought disel rv would offer a better drive.
They definitely have a lot more power
My 2010 Bus has a roof that is delaminating and has soft spots and is spreading so I am pretty sure water is getting in.. It has started to leak at the front overhead cabinets. I cannot find where it is coming in. It has destroyed the bottom of the overhead pass side cab. After a recent move it no longer shows up. I fear it is just getting in where I cannot see it.
I have looked and looked on the roof for any suspicious spots and have sealed over those places but did not help.
You should really take it in to see a professional before it gets out of control
Can you use self leveling silicone on top of Dicor self leveling ?
What’s up with fall protection.
Where should I attach it? lol
The TV placement is 90 degrees from the couch, making watching for any length of time very awkward.
Hey what do you think of the idea of removing all Dicor off my EPDM roof and replacing it with Nuflex311. Of course I would have to perfectly remove the old Dicor
I think its not a good idea. nuflex is not recommended for membrane roofs and it's nearly impossible to remove the old dicor completely.
Nice Video, but that is a 43' Tiffin. 43QRP
Uh, Thanks
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Thanks for watching!
Several years back I bought a brand new Tiffin Allegro bus 42 ft. Biggest piece of junk I ever owned. No way near the quality of my Monaco Signature and not even in the same universe as my twenty-year-old Prevost or Wanderlodge.
Thanks for watching!
How does Premium feel about your inspections?
Well they keep asking me to do them, so......
And never and I say never buy any rv trailer even if new without a PPI from an independent certified inspector will save you down the road
Praise the good Lord. You didn't open every cupboard door just to show me how empty each cupboard is 😞
Thanks for watching!
13 years means they are no longer supported by the factory. I would stay away from these.
Nah, not if they were maintained. Used coaches are sometimes a good value
You have to be kidding. How manny products at any level are “supported” by the factory, builder etc even after 10 years? The two questions are easy: how well built originally, and how well maintained by earlier owners.
Merry Christmas, James!
And to you! Thanks for watching!