Just picked up a new 2020 Dutch Star 4369 at North Trail in Fort Myers, FL. I just took it on a maiden voyage to South Carolina for a dirt bike Enduro. Then stayed at Lake Greenwood Motorcoach Resort for a week. I put 2,000 miles on it and it performed flawlessly. The comfort drive is a serious game changer. In my old Thor Outlaw I experienced white knuckle fever every time I drove it. You can’t go wrong with a Newmar.
We just sold our Tiffin Allegro Bus and bought a Newmar Mountain Aire. Couldn’t be happier with our decision. Those 365s on the front rims are sweet. Full wall slide out, awesome. We only drive about 8,000/year, but sleep about 3 months. The extra room in nice.
We are dry camping, dirt bike riding beach going folks. Our Tiffin Allegro , 2 slide is a great coach. Every thing works, every time you need it. We stole it at 15,5000.00 its a 2000 with 35,000 miles and 400 hours on Gen. It truly is about how you are going to use the coach. Adding a strip LED light down the passenger side is a must for light.
"We rate this claim as PARTLY FALSE, as it presents a mix of true and false information. The meme wrongly claims Lemonis was speaking directly and specifically about Trump supporters in his comments. Listening to the entire audio clip, it is very clear that Lemonis was referring to anyone who was in support of the neo-Nazis, white nationalists and white supremacists who marched in Virginia that weekend." www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/31/fact-check-camping-world-ceo-misquoted-viral-meme/5660368002/
@@brandonschopf1642 yes, I know the exact quote. And it is still ridiculous for a company to virtue-signal like that. Still a pompous, self righteous position. Still implying that Trump said something he didn't.
Love your videos. That said I would never recommend that anyone buy a typical RV. They are all junk. My first "RV" was a 1977 Blue Bird Wanderlodge with the CAT 3208 and it was built like a tank. IMO the biggest mistake RV buyers make is buying a typical RV. It's best to skip all that and go straight to a commercial grade motorcoach. The Prevost, Wanderlodges and Newell coaches would be the best options with Prevost by Liberty or Marathon at the top of the food chain. It's like buying a camera tripod. Get a good one and skip all the junk. In the long run you save money. By the way I would go with a riveted Prevost maybe 1996-1999 non-slide. Get a garage kept one-owner with a great service history if possible and call it a day. Then own it for the rest of your life. This while other folks are going through a half dozen or more RVs and spending GOD know how much money on them. Keep up the great work Andrew!
OHHHHHH YOU'RE KILLIN' ME SMALL'S! You know what you need to buy, you know it.......weather its a serious crunch on the pocket book is a true thing. You know if it's not on a Prevost chassis you KNOW the issues you are going to have. Go back to your interviews of people for moved up to the Prevost. I KNOW its tough man it's fricken a TON of loot! Getting another Class A is like selling a Chevy Suburban and getting a GMC Denali XL it's the same thing and same issues. I would be super happy for you if waiting several months or even a year to build up that dollars! Yes sell that Tiffin, you did right by that coach and the new owner is getting a super coach! What an awesome journey you are taking us with you, I can't wait to see what you have chosen.......TAOD??????? Hummmmmmmmm
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Andrew, you have been an important resource for those looking at a premium level motorcoach (especially me). Now it's your turn to listen to your own advice. As the owner of 3 previous motorhomes starting with a gas-powered Pace Arrow years ago and then moving to two levels of diesel pusher, I am suggesting that unless you are looking to constantly turn over your coach, plan on buying what you would consider being your last purchase. Production coach products for the last 5 to 7 years have been going down in quality as more units get pushed out the door. Don't settle for another stepping stone. I love the new 2021 Newmar King Aire but I don't want to drive 1850 miles to get factory service. In following your videos, I have been most interested in the post-sale warranty and service policies you feature during your tours (as well as what most often breaks). The idea that when in trouble I can wake up a knowledgable technician in the middle of the night at Newell and get help is the type of support I want when spending this type of money. The last thing I want to do is be told to go and find a different service tech for each major component on the coach. Had that with Fleetwood and American. As you stated in this video, you need to figure out your objectives and lifestyle. I need the coach for both business and pleasure. I will use it frequently but I don't plan to live in it for long periods of time. It seems as if bus-based coaches offer the maximum over-the-road durability but you give up some of the smaller things like head height, or an interior that can't accommodate more than 2. As for selling your existing Tiffen, with all of the work done to yours and the accountability that your video history shows, I would look at $120k as the hard stop.
After I did work myself on my Tiffin , my next one is a Super C, front engine , ease of access to engine , I would sell mine now, but lost our house to Hurricane Laura. Now my Phateon is our only home we got 🤷🏻♂️
Hands down I would consider the Renegade product. We bought a brand new phaeton and realized we do a lot of driving and it was fatiguing on long drives. Bought a 45’ classic and it was the best decision.
Super C is that way to go. Showhauler or Renegade. Ease of service made to go as many miles as you want. More reasonable to purchase as well. Drive really well very stable if you get the Class 8 truck chassis. Cascadia etc.
I love Jesus with all my heart and would not steer you wrong. Need to look at the Renegade Classic with weather package. Whether it’s 110 degrees or 35 below zero you will stay warm when it’s cold out and cool when it’s hot out. Also, need to talk to IWS Sales out of Boise Idaho! Talk with Ben...seriously!!! They been in business over 20 years and use them themselves as a family. Also ask about the iPad, 24/7 hotline and roadside assistance. Plus they are totally customizable. Hope to be getting mine picked up next spring 😀👍. People make the business and they are family owned and amazing people. Not all You Tube channels are the same...”You” make this channel what it is! Same with Renegade dealers 👍
It's okay for those who love big rigs. I own a Prevost conversion. tAke all the seats out, put my own electrical in, (way out does what they do.. I have like 30K watts of lithium, etc. Anyway, very nice conversion is only fraction of the cost of Liberty or Marathon. Same story with Renegade. I like the idea of putting your car on the semi's that have the trailers. But only a smart for two. Again, not for me. God bless all. (ps, if not for thinking as I do, I'd never have their options. It costs too much for me. And yet, their options can't even do what mine does.
Newell Jokes aside with you wanting to put lots of miles on a Rv and worried about high end Prevost or Newell being expensive to fix then a Super C based on a big truck chassis might be the way to go. If i didnt already drive a big truck for a living i would buy a Renegade XL.
Let's be honest, super c's are not on the same level as a Prevost. There's a reason why they cost a million dollars or more. Super C's are definitely setup for road travel and are more serviceable so that is something.
The demand for RV’s is unlike anything I have ever seen. I recently sold my Class A and it was sold in less than 48 hours. Priced right, you will get it sold.
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I think the used market is really going to pile up by next summer. Some will get sick of paying storage fees and others will realize it's not the life they thought it would be. Also, companies like Twitter and VMWARE are lowering wages if you move out of the Bay Area. Geo arbitrage is done.
@@subaru4me I agree. This rush will die off, and as usual the used market will get flooded which is why dealers are pushing BUY NOW because they know the turn around is on its way!
Looking to put 20-30k miles a year on a diesel pusher, and on a pre-owned Prevost or Newell at that? You know your stuff Andrew no doubt about that but the question you *should* be asking is how much money do you want to spend on maintenance a year. The bells & whistles are nice but like you said that stuff breaks down. If you're looking to push an RV pretty hard for the next few years I'd suggest going with a Super C, bank some bucks THEN buy that Prevost or Newell; you'll have the bank to help cover the maintenance. Personally, if I'd just dropped $30k into a Phaeton and it's in great condition, I'd keep it while putting money away so that finances aren't a concern when you upgrade to what you really want. Sounds like you have "new RV fever"; keep the Phaeton awhile longer.
I THINK that selling now just means you have to buy what is NOT there at the moment. But you are right about the rigs not meant to roll that much on the highway. Don’t go to Colorado... I judge the roads by how much clothes is still hanging in my closet. Colorado had nothing hanging when we got out of the state. They need roads badly....I-70 is a wreck and on the entire length in Colorado we saw 2 work crews...
It's a no brainers Andrew, you have done a lot of work on your coach, basically, it's like new almost. So, the only way to go, would be a prevost, be it liberty, marathon, featherlite or whatever, your coach is pretty nice, so unless your going prevost, you should keep it. There's a saying for cars that would apply to any vehicle, "if your vehicle is paid for and you have to put some maintenance into it every year, its still the best deal you can get," Unless your going prevost or not happy with it, you should keep it. Ask Sadie, she will tell you the truth. Another great vid Andrew and as always stay safe and give Sadie some love for me
Andrew: Taking on a Prevost is a lot to take on. If you buy an older unit maintenance that first year maintenance could run $10k to $50k. You are basically maintaining a Greyhound Bus. Take a look at all the Super Cs. They are safe. The engines are designed to go through the mountains. Renegade, Nexus, Newmar, Dynamax all build beautiful units at very different price point. Each drives differently so you can pick what you like.
Class c’s and regular coaches ride like crap. Prevost is a more enjoyable ride. Very reliable if you maintain them like they are supposed to be. I have owned 2 Prevost and would not own anything else
Moving on up good for you. I will have to say my 13 Allegro bus 45 has been awesome 62,000 miles and never left me on the side of the road or cost a bunch of money. My point being they all break even the big dogs, it’s just how much do you want to invest. In your business Prevost or Newell might be your best bet, but they are need repairs. Good luck!!🍀
Your coach could be worth 135 with the improvements but I think as a single guy you should be looking at a 40 foot coach single axle in the future. You don’t have to own a Prevost to be the cool guy on the block.
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Sell yours and bank the money for one year. Wait until people can't make the payments and swoop in and get one much much cheaper. Time will be your best value.
Easy......Older Used Prevost with good drive train that will be a project remodel,. You already have the connections, provide exposure to the vendors and get a deal on the work. PLUS.......Content Content Content!!!
I wonder if Newell would do a minimalist coach? Your point about when gadgets go wrong is spot on. I’d love a single color grey metallic Newell. Manual basement slides. No power washer. No disco lighting inside or 1500 leather patterns. Simple, elegant, a less is more coach. I wonder the cost for something like that?
You can add RVONE to that list of stay away and don't buy as well. What nightmare my Wife and I had with them in both Sales and Service. Hate to bad mouth anyone but they are really bad.
@@droningharry i have a feeling that ken is saying that because the owner of camping world has said in the past to not do business with them if you support trump. camping world can go to hell. they blew it by interjecting rabid politics into a business and no matter how much he apologized (after he realized his mistake and loss of revenue) it's too late and they deserve to go out of business. many conservatives have stopped shopping at camping world just like they have cancelled AARP memberships. here's a start if you want to delve past the coverups and left wing "fact checkers" who lie about everything because a comma was out of place. th-cam.com/video/u9lALra1JB0/w-d-xo.html
@@donaldfafard Well we're certainly not trump supporters so sorry if you are but what I'm saying is a franchise dealership is just dirty. We had a terrible time with the one we dealt with and won't make that mistake again. Politics wise we are very much Biden supports. All I'll say about that. Our views are our views and rights.
@@droningharry i was trying to educate you on the camping world debacle, not be patronized and insulted for my political beliefs, "not trump supporters so sorry if you are". people like you make people like me who try to get the facts across make people like me not want to help others like you. first you insult me because of my political beliefs and then ignore those insults qualifying yourself by saying, "Politics wise we are very much Biden supports. All I'll say about that." that's what you call liberal "hit and run". if you left off the personal attack in the beginning then i wouldn't feel the need to respond to your post in the least.
AZ DONALD Oh no please don’t misunderstand what I was saying, I thought you were calling me a Trump Supporter. Wasn’t in any way attempting to insult or belittle you or your beliefs. I am in complete agreement on Camping World and the other Dealerships that are nationwide. I don’t trust them and will not play there’re games ever again. You absolutely have the right to your beliefs as do I and I’d never say otherwise. If you thought I was I apologize for. In no way was that my intention.
Andrew, an RV from a company like Prevost is kind of like a Lexus and is a lot more complex but also much better built and as far as problems go I can give you my car experience, we keep cars a long time and usually about 20 years, I had a Nissan maxima that was purchased new and over the years even though it was well serviced it had a ton of problems, fuel injector, new transmission, HVAC fan, three door window suspension units, and lots more. While we had this car we purchased a used Lexus ES a year older than the Nissan, and in the years we kept that car until it was 22, the only problems it ever had were the volume control knob on the stereo got loose we had that fixed and is was expensive and we had a power steering hose develop a leak, easy fix. So for us we replaced the Nissan with a new Toyota Highlander and eventually the Lexus with a used Lexus LS and both have been trouble free for many years now.
You should seriously look at the 2020 Newmar New Aire 35 footer with the 450 HP Cummins, special steering set-up, pure luxury in a sports-car Coach. REALLY CHECK IT OUT!
We run a Tiffin with 920 watts of solar 600ah of lithium. We fulltime boondock and run 9k to 10k a year. There have been suspension changes made koni shocks and a safety plus. Our coach is awesome we do our preventative maintenance and annual inspections. The problems we have had have been minor because of our maintenance program. If you think you can own a large motorhome without a maintenance program and drive it 20k a year You're dreaming.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who is thinking Super C. I would also like to see you get a used Prevost but the cheapest one you can find and completely customize it add slides complete new interior it would be a ton of great content and would be super interesting to see what it would cost to redo a lower price prevo
Look at the 2020 Horizon 42 Q. There are only 8 new ones left in the whole country. Amazing chassis, lots of room and the selling price is excellent. You already walked thru one. I put 6000 miles on mine this summer. It can handle 20,000 / yr Your 07 might bring $80,000. My 07 Ellipse. 40FD with a 400ISL sold for $70,000, but it needed tires and a few windows were fogged.
Thanks for the information and honesty...I've started out with a 2011 tiffin allegro 38 red ..really love its power and handling...your experiences and thoughts have made me think about rving a little differently..thanks for your time.
I think a non slide Prevost for just you and your dog would be good. You don't need all the fancy stuff. Those Prevost run down the highway blazing when I see them.
May as well jump in with my suggestion... 06 07 Newell - will age very well based on styling, quality/power are only matched by a prevost, and if you snag one for low 200's depreciation won't break the bank! Would be my personal choice!
Andrew, you should buy a Prevost coach! Love to see you in one... one of those dealerships you’ve advertised their coaches should give you a good deal on one!
You can do a ton of maintenance on that Tiffin and not get anywhere close to Prevost cost. Consider the $$$ you are going to have into a Prevost, that is a continuing depreciating asset. + 10 to below, Super C would be a lot less money and maintenance friendly with forward motor.
That’s great that you are moving to a Prevost. You should be able to get $125,000 or more with all you have done to it and you have the audience to do it! Everyone knows how well you take care of it an everything that has been done. It might help for some folks if you could tell how many miles are on it and mileage and age of the tires. Plus yours is like a Celebrity Coach now maybe someone will buy just because you owned it! Best Wishes and keep us posted with all of those videos. We know it is a lot of work.
Used Prevost buddy! That’s my next one for sure. Just sold a Newmar Dutchstar and loved it. Started with a tent and everything in between! Time to get the best for us anyway. Good luck!
A Bluebird Wanderlodge is what you should be looking at to purchase. Even though they are not made anymore, they are the best bang for your buck. And I believe there are a few single owners for sale at the moment.
Bluebird and Newell both are better than a Prevost conversion. Bluebird, like Newell makes their own chassis. Too bad Bluebird got out of the motor coach market. Wanderlodge was an amazing coach!
Andrew, since your clips will be “out there” for a long time, I’d like to suggest that you proof your links and insert two apostrophes. DEAN’S Channel and JAMES’ channel . Keep this good content coming.
Pickin up what you’re puttin down, but I’ve put about 4,000 miles this summer on my ‘97 holiday rambler endeavor diesel with no issues. I don’t see how racking up miles would hurt the house part of the rv in something like mine any more than a bus chassis except that maybe the bus chassis rides a little smoother. Y’all, putting 20-30k miles a year on any diesel pusher should not be a struggle for it.
Great time to sell! Unload the Tiffan, use mom and dads till the market flips and then scoop up a nice Prevost. After you drove that Prevost it was only a matter of time till you had to have one.
Hey Andrew, Love your videos. I think now definitely is the best time to sell your Tiffin and get your money back. My goal would be to try my best to basically break even which means you still win big because you have used your Tiffin several times and added a few more thousand miles on it. So if you can get out and not lose that would be awesome. Next I would wait a while till the market readjusts on RV’s because we all know the future deals will post pandemic and many of the folks who bought during this time will be looking to sell and the market should have some great deals especially with all your connections. I know you’re trying to go full time TH-cam but you might consider striking a deal with a production company to drive their products and review the coach for the rest of us.
Provost is the best in my opinion... that’s why they cost so much... amenities... made to run...but you’re correct.. and I agree when you buy an Escalade for example... more stuff to break..
I just sold my first RV (barley and technically an RV since it had hookups and toilet) it was a 1999 Coleman Tao's popup camper only an 8 footer, we towed it with my Prius !! Bought for $1,500 used it all summer and then sold it for $3,500, did nothing to it, and cashed in. Now I want a coach..... ;)
As for what you should get, it should be a Newell, reason being the word Newell is so cool to say over and over. Even better when you can say it while owning one.
Just remember, 50,000 people are sitting on the edge of their chair to see what you buy, me included. Have to have a Class A so you can use your new spot in Montana.
I think you should get a Super C. Those are built to be driven. I have seen some nice ones recently on a F550 with 4WD. I would assume that it would be lease expensive to maintain and they can tow a lot with it.
You need a Prevost 1996-2000 riveted non slide. I would prefer a Liberty, Marathon, Country Coach in that order. Polish and detail and have the nicest rig of that era. I would like that for myself but I have a family of four, so we went with a CC Magna.
Andrew if you read this what would happen at the 2 Class A RV resorts that you have bought a spot at if you decided to buy a Super C or even a Class B RV? Could you still use them? Sorry if it is a silly question.
List it for $125,000. Bite the bullet and buy a Newell or Prevost in your price range.....Or, what about a Leisure Travel Van? They have separate toilet and showers, no wet heads. They look pretty darn nice.
Consider buying a C class or a super C, for the simple fact that the motor is in front Which makes it much easier to work on and distributes more power, It's also safer having the engine in front in case of a head on collision, its easier to drive because of the location of the front wheels and the position of the Sideview mirrors. I would imagine there's less stress on the engine as well with the cooling power coming right in the front rather than having to pull it in from the back. I think the seats are more designed for long drives also.
Awesome! Love the Tiffin, but been secretly hoping you would upgrade soon to a nice previously loved Prevost or Newell, for some great ownership content =D. Following along on your search, keep up the great work!
No need to justify a change, you have the rv bug . Embrace and enjoy . You spent enough time at Newell, call Karl Blade and comission a new coach. It would be ready by mid March. If it's good enough for Nascar it will work for you.
Doing $5k over the summer is nothing. RVs need to be built to be driven. Can you imagine not being able to drive a car 1500 miles per month? Or tell a sailer you are sailing your boat too much? The RV industry needs to step it up like the SUV industry had to do 20 years ago.
What about that 2016 Country Coach? Isn't that a good driver for long distances? It's definitely priced right. They have the comfort steer on that rig, too. Once a month I go look a that video, I just love the front kitchen and mid-ship living room. It's my ideal coach.
Hi Andrew....well, it is definitely non standard times. I'd bet you could get low to mid retail on your rig + 50% of your interior upgrade. Normally, I'd say you're going to be eating your interior upgrade and the highest you could hope for is low retail. Though I hate to see you get rid of your Phaeton as you haven't really had it very long, it will be exciting to see what you do get. With your status and contacts, I'm sure you are going to stumble onto a Prevost that will be within your $$ comfort zone in no time. Best of luck in your search!!
I think your Tiffin is amazing. Your comments about needing to baby the Tiffin to keep it from breaking worry me. I think of the Phaeton as a top notch coach with an excellent chassis and drive train. I'm curious to know what you're considering other than the Prevost. That's well outside my zip code.
Ok, so I'm 42 seconds the video and acting like a crazy man setting yes yes yes yes yes!!! I have been waiting to hear those word I'm ready to sell!!!! Hot damn, the new owner is getting a dialed in coach that needs nothing not even upgrading! This for one who is looking is getting a real dream of a coach! Ok back to the the rest of the video, I can't wait thanks to Dean for the sponsor of this video! Now back to our regularly scheduled programming!
Why does your Tiffin wear you out to drive? Are you sawing the wheel a lot? I just knocked down 650 miles in 11 hours on Saturday and never tired. Although I’ve done some suspension upgrades to our Dynasty, it drives like a dream and I’d rather drive it than the car. We only put about 8k miles a year on it since we quit racing but I can see us doing many more miles once we are able to retire. Our Dynasty only has 128k miles on her so there’s a lot of life left in her yet. Good luck on your search. Mike
We are thinking about moving to a Coach now because of Physical issues I'm dealing with. I love to Tow, always been my preferred. Bring the house with us and leave it. Now though at 58 just getting harder to set up get in and out of among other things. Most likely a C but a big one that won't have any issues with pulling our Fusion on a Trailer. Market is fast becoming a Buyers one as folks have tried Pandemic RVing and finding it wasn't for them. Hoping that sweet deal will be out there for us. Still love our 2012 North Trail, if I could drive like I used to it be no issue. Oh well.
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Good luck Andrew in your search, love your video’s. Question: I’ve got a 2020 Tiffin bus and I’d like to tow a van but have been told you can’t (wheels down) . I noticed in this video that you have done this. Can you do a video on towing a van? I’d like to go down the main highway’s in the Tiffin bus and then use a small converted van for exploring the local area. Even do some overnight stream side small campground parking in the van. Would be cool to get your thoughts on this kind of travel. Thanks
I disconnected the driveline physically every time I towed it. was a bit of a process but not to hard, just 4 bolts and a couple ratchet straps and about an extra 15 minutes for set up. There are a few guys online that have talked about it in forums and blue ox makes the base plate for sprinters.
Andrew I think I'm going to make this easy on you. I'm wanting to know what brand of RV that you believe is the most dependable as in mechanically. I intend to put a lot of miles throughout United States it's me and my dog and I will be installing network devices around the country. I don't care about slides I want something that is absolutely mechanically sound and dependable. I am limited to $250,000 so what do you personally think would be the right choice.
Recently subscribed to your channel. Enjoy it! Also, I learned from you DON'T BUY an RV. Your honesty tells me that I'll stick with my Chrysler Pacifica and my favorite hotel/motel chain. Too much of a hassle owning and money down the drain with a Class A that costs more than my home.
So this is just a question since it's on you, but you spent all that time in Oregon at Preimer RV. No interest in a Country Coach? No secret that I'm prejudiced on the subject, but it seems you could pick up a really nice CC for a decent price. Between their quality construction and the Dynamax chassis those coaches were made to last.
Ask retail for your Phaeton. Look at RVT for comparables. You can always come down. Once you get in the 100K price range or higher the longer it typically takes to sell. If you want a Prevost I would look at Marathon, Liberty and Featherlite. We opted for a Wanderlodge. Glad we did. It's the bus no one talks about.
I knew, sooner than later, you would get the itch...lol..Too many beautiful coaches have passed you by... Pull the trigger, But make sure that coach is everything, you have discussed in your videos...Be Smart. And hit a home run..
Suck it up and get a preowned Prevost. You won’t be happy until you do! Bide you’re time and hold out for a coach in your price range that has been faithfully loved. Then don’t look back. You seem to be particularly fond of Emerald and Marathon, seek out an endorsement deal from both of those Coach builders. Your channel is popular enough to help any of these manufacturers sell more coaches. Go for it!
Beware all those Mercedes chassises have a very low cargo carrying capacity once an RV is built on them. I was really wanting one for a while but they just can't carry enough weight. I think the bare bones minimum CCC for a couple is 1500 pounds and you really want 2000 pounds or more. The Winnebago Navion 24V for example only has a CCC of 950 pounds. You put a couple of people in it with their clothes dishes food etc and your going to probably be over weight. That's the reason everybody that buys one of these Mercedes RVs immediately starts adding sway bars and suspension modifications to them to try and make them ride better when the problem is they're probably over weight.
Have you considered a non-slide Prevost then having one or two slides installed? I understand that it costs about 1500 to 2000 per foot for slides. If you do an 8 foot in the bedroom then a 22 foot in the living area that's 45-60k which I think is a lot less than buying a double slide unit. I'd love to know your thoughts on this. Good luck on your sale and purchase. Love your videos.
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Just picked up a new 2020 Dutch Star 4369 at North Trail in Fort Myers, FL. I just took it on a maiden voyage to South Carolina for a dirt bike Enduro. Then stayed at Lake Greenwood Motorcoach Resort for a week. I put 2,000 miles on it and it performed flawlessly. The comfort drive is a serious game changer. In my old Thor Outlaw I experienced white knuckle fever every time I drove it. You can’t go wrong with a Newmar.
We just sold our Tiffin Allegro Bus and bought a Newmar Mountain Aire. Couldn’t be happier with our decision. Those 365s on the front rims are sweet. Full wall slide out, awesome. We only drive about 8,000/year, but sleep about 3 months. The extra room in nice.
We are dry camping, dirt bike riding beach going folks. Our Tiffin Allegro , 2 slide is a great coach. Every thing works, every time you need it. We stole it at 15,5000.00 its a 2000 with 35,000 miles and 400 hours on Gen. It truly is about how you are going to use the coach. Adding a strip LED light down the passenger side is a must for light.
I'm "steering" clear of Camping World since the CEO effectively said he didn't want the business of Trump voters...
dam really? i should go there and see what they have for sale then. good people dont support a bad man.
Seriously?
Absolutely. Businesses insulting half their customers is bad business. You leftist lunatics have at it though.... 😀😂
"We rate this claim as PARTLY FALSE, as it presents a mix of true and false information. The meme wrongly claims Lemonis was speaking directly and specifically about Trump supporters in his comments. Listening to the entire audio clip, it is very clear that Lemonis was referring to anyone who was in support of the neo-Nazis, white nationalists and white supremacists who marched in Virginia that weekend."
www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/31/fact-check-camping-world-ceo-misquoted-viral-meme/5660368002/
@@brandonschopf1642 yes, I know the exact quote. And it is still ridiculous for a company to virtue-signal like that. Still a pompous, self righteous position. Still implying that Trump said something he didn't.
Love your videos. That said I would never recommend that anyone buy a typical RV. They are all junk. My first "RV" was a 1977 Blue Bird Wanderlodge with the CAT 3208 and it was built like a tank. IMO the biggest mistake RV buyers make is buying a typical RV. It's best to skip all that and go straight to a commercial grade motorcoach. The Prevost, Wanderlodges and Newell coaches would be the best options with Prevost by Liberty or Marathon at the top of the food chain. It's like buying a camera tripod. Get a good one and skip all the junk. In the long run you save money. By the way I would go with a riveted Prevost maybe 1996-1999 non-slide. Get a garage kept one-owner with a great service history if possible and call it a day. Then own it for the rest of your life. This while other folks are going through a half dozen or more RVs and spending GOD know how much money on them. Keep up the great work Andrew!
OHHHHHH YOU'RE KILLIN' ME SMALL'S! You know what you need to buy, you know it.......weather its a serious crunch on the pocket book is a true thing. You know if it's not on a Prevost chassis you KNOW the issues you are going to have. Go back to your interviews of people for moved up to the Prevost. I KNOW its tough man it's fricken a TON of loot! Getting another Class A is like selling a Chevy Suburban and getting a GMC Denali XL it's the same thing and same issues. I would be super happy for you if waiting several months or even a year to build up that dollars! Yes sell that Tiffin, you did right by that coach and the new owner is getting a super coach! What an awesome journey you are taking us with you, I can't wait to see what you have chosen.......TAOD??????? Hummmmmmmmm
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so what if he gets a ecalade lol that would be a newel or a newmar
Andrew, you have been an important resource for those looking at a premium level motorcoach (especially me). Now it's your turn to listen to your own advice. As the owner of 3 previous motorhomes starting with a gas-powered Pace Arrow years ago and then moving to two levels of diesel pusher, I am suggesting that unless you are looking to constantly turn over your coach, plan on buying what you would consider being your last purchase. Production coach products for the last 5 to 7 years have been going down in quality as more units get pushed out the door. Don't settle for another stepping stone. I love the new 2021 Newmar King Aire but I don't want to drive 1850 miles to get factory service.
In following your videos, I have been most interested in the post-sale warranty and service policies you feature during your tours (as well as what most often breaks). The idea that when in trouble I can wake up a knowledgable technician in the middle of the night at Newell and get help is the type of support I want when spending this type of money. The last thing I want to do is be told to go and find a different service tech for each major component on the coach. Had that with Fleetwood and American. As you stated in this video, you need to figure out your objectives and lifestyle. I need the coach for both business and pleasure. I will use it frequently but I don't plan to live in it for long periods of time. It seems as if bus-based coaches offer the maximum over-the-road durability but you give up some of the smaller things like head height, or an interior that can't accommodate more than 2. As for selling your existing Tiffen, with all of the work done to yours and the accountability that your video history shows, I would look at $120k as the hard stop.
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You just gave Andrew $1K worth of advice for free. Excellent take!
It's funny because I just went from a 1998 Pace Arrow 36B to a 2003 Dutch Star. I only average maybe 5000 miles a year.
After I did work myself on my Tiffin , my next one is a Super C, front engine , ease of access to engine , I would sell mine now, but lost our house to Hurricane Laura. Now my Phateon is our only home we got 🤷🏻♂️
Andrew decided to go the same route, say goodbye to KOA Kampgrounds and hello to camping.
Hands down I would consider the Renegade product. We bought a brand new phaeton and realized we do a lot of driving and it was fatiguing on long drives. Bought a 45’ classic and it was the best decision.
Country coach....you know you want one!
My 2009 Allure is pre-def and solid as a rock.
We are really considering a CC Magna.. so your comment is very encouraging. Thank you.
Super C is that way to go. Showhauler or Renegade. Ease of service made to go as many miles as you want. More reasonable to purchase as well. Drive really well very stable if you get the Class 8 truck chassis. Cascadia etc.
Thanks Andrew, I sure appreciate your honesty and dedication to your channel. Have a great day!
I love Jesus with all my heart and would not steer you wrong. Need to look at the Renegade Classic with weather package. Whether it’s 110 degrees or 35 below zero you will stay warm when it’s cold out and cool when it’s hot out. Also, need to talk to IWS Sales out of Boise Idaho! Talk with Ben...seriously!!! They been in business over 20 years and use them themselves as a family. Also ask about the iPad, 24/7 hotline and roadside assistance. Plus they are totally customizable. Hope to be getting mine picked up next spring 😀👍. People make the business and they are family owned and amazing people. Not all You Tube channels are the same...”You” make this channel what it is! Same with Renegade dealers 👍
It's okay for those who love big rigs. I own a Prevost conversion. tAke all the seats out, put my own electrical in, (way out does what they do.. I have like 30K watts of lithium, etc. Anyway, very nice conversion is only fraction of the cost of Liberty or Marathon. Same story with Renegade. I like the idea of putting your car on the semi's that have the trailers. But only a smart for two. Again, not for me. God bless all. (ps, if not for thinking as I do, I'd never have their options. It costs too much for me. And yet, their options can't even do what mine does.
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Jokes aside with you wanting to put lots of miles on a Rv and worried about high end Prevost or Newell being expensive to fix then a Super C based on a big truck chassis might be the way to go. If i didnt already drive a big truck for a living i would buy a Renegade XL.
Same
Let's be honest, super c's are not on the same level as a Prevost. There's a reason why they cost a million dollars or more.
Super C's are definitely setup for road travel and are more serviceable so that is something.
Super Cs never seem to have first-rate build outs. No thanks for me.
I know I don't "have" a Prevost...but I was a tour bus driver for 25 years....and ONLY drove a Prevost Mirage...ahhhh....beautiful
The demand for RV’s is unlike anything I have ever seen. I recently sold my Class A and it was sold in less than 48 hours. Priced right, you will get it sold.
The used market is already starting to fill with impulse buy RV's! Super C like a Renegade RV is up your alley! Can't beat the Freightliner!
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I think the used market is really going to pile up by next summer. Some will get sick of paying storage fees and others will realize it's not the life they thought it would be. Also, companies like Twitter and VMWARE are lowering wages if you move out of the Bay Area. Geo arbitrage is done.
@@subaru4me I agree. This rush will die off, and as usual the used market will get flooded which is why dealers are pushing BUY NOW because they know the turn around is on its way!
Looking to put 20-30k miles a year on a diesel pusher, and on a pre-owned Prevost or Newell at that? You know your stuff Andrew no doubt about that but the question you *should* be asking is how much money do you want to spend on maintenance a year. The bells & whistles are nice but like you said that stuff breaks down. If you're looking to push an RV pretty hard for the next few years I'd suggest going with a Super C, bank some bucks THEN buy that Prevost or Newell; you'll have the bank to help cover the maintenance. Personally, if I'd just dropped $30k into a Phaeton and it's in great condition, I'd keep it while putting money away so that finances aren't a concern when you upgrade to what you really want. Sounds like you have "new RV fever"; keep the Phaeton awhile longer.
I THINK that selling now just means you have to buy what is NOT there at the moment. But you are right about the rigs not meant to roll that much on the highway. Don’t go to Colorado... I judge the roads by how much clothes is still hanging in my closet. Colorado had nothing hanging when we got out of the state. They need roads badly....I-70 is a wreck and on the entire length in Colorado we saw 2 work crews...
It's a no brainers Andrew, you have done a lot of work on your coach, basically, it's like new almost. So, the only way to go, would be a prevost, be it liberty, marathon, featherlite or whatever, your coach is pretty nice, so unless your going prevost, you should keep it. There's a saying for cars that would apply to any vehicle, "if your vehicle is paid for and you have to put some maintenance into it every year, its still the best deal you can get,"
Unless your going prevost or not happy with it, you should keep it. Ask Sadie, she will tell you the truth.
Another great vid Andrew and as always stay safe and give Sadie some love for me
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Andrew: Taking on a Prevost is a lot to take on. If you buy an older unit maintenance that first year maintenance could run $10k to $50k. You are basically maintaining a Greyhound Bus. Take a look at all the Super Cs. They are safe. The engines are designed to go through the mountains. Renegade, Nexus, Newmar, Dynamax all build beautiful units at very different price point. Each drives differently so you can pick what you like.
Class c’s and regular coaches ride like crap. Prevost is a more enjoyable ride. Very reliable if you maintain them like they are supposed to be. I have owned 2 Prevost and would not own anything else
@@godblessamerica5114well your talking a difference of like 400k for a nice class c and what 1M for a Prevost cannot even compare the 2 dude
Moving on up good for you. I will have to say my 13 Allegro bus 45 has been awesome 62,000 miles and never left me on the side of the road or cost a bunch of money. My point being they all break even the big dogs, it’s just how much do you want to invest. In your business Prevost or Newell might be your best bet, but they are need repairs. Good luck!!🍀
Your coach could be worth 135 with the improvements but I think as a single guy you should be looking at a 40 foot coach single axle in the future. You don’t have to own a Prevost to be the cool guy on the block.
I had a 20 yr old Prevost, nothing broke in 5yrs of ownership.
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I see that 93' blue Prevost surfaced on eBay for only $95k... seems like a better choice than a mil and a half mile tour bus from your mechanic buddy!
Sell yours and bank the money for one year. Wait until people can't make the payments and swoop in and get one much much cheaper. Time will be your best value.
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Easy......Older Used Prevost with good drive train that will be a project remodel,. You already have the connections, provide exposure to the vendors and get a deal on the work. PLUS.......Content Content Content!!!
I wonder if Newell would do a minimalist coach? Your point about when gadgets go wrong is spot on. I’d love a single color grey metallic Newell. Manual basement slides. No power washer. No disco lighting inside or 1500 leather patterns. Simple, elegant, a less is more coach. I wonder the cost for something like that?
Good info, but I wouldn't buy ANYTHING from Camping World.
You can add RVONE to that list of stay away and don't buy as well. What nightmare my Wife and I had with them in both Sales and Service. Hate to bad mouth anyone but they are really bad.
@@droningharry i have a feeling that ken is saying that because the owner of camping world has said in the past to not do business with them if you support trump.
camping world can go to hell.
they blew it by interjecting rabid politics into a business and no matter how much he apologized (after he realized his mistake and loss of revenue) it's too late and they deserve to go out of business. many conservatives have stopped shopping at camping world just like they have cancelled AARP memberships.
here's a start if you want to delve past the coverups and left wing "fact checkers" who lie about everything because a comma was out of place.
th-cam.com/video/u9lALra1JB0/w-d-xo.html
@@donaldfafard Well we're certainly not trump supporters so sorry if you are but what I'm saying is a franchise dealership is just dirty. We had a terrible time with the one we dealt with and won't make that mistake again. Politics wise we are very much Biden supports. All I'll say about that. Our views are our views and rights.
@@droningharry i was trying to educate you on the camping world debacle, not be patronized and insulted for my political beliefs, "not trump supporters so sorry if you are".
people like you make people like me who try to get the facts across make people like me not want to help others like you.
first you insult me because of my political beliefs and then ignore those insults qualifying yourself by saying, "Politics wise we are very much Biden supports. All I'll say about that."
that's what you call liberal "hit and run".
if you left off the personal attack in the beginning then i wouldn't feel the need to respond to your post in the least.
AZ DONALD Oh no please don’t misunderstand what I was saying, I thought you were calling me a Trump Supporter. Wasn’t in any way attempting to insult or belittle you or your beliefs. I am in complete agreement on Camping World and the other Dealerships that are nationwide. I don’t trust them and will not play there’re games ever again. You absolutely have the right to your beliefs as do I and I’d never say otherwise. If you thought I was I apologize for. In no way was that my intention.
Andrew, an RV from a company like Prevost is kind of like a Lexus and is a lot more complex but also much better built and as far as problems go I can give you my car experience, we keep cars a long time and usually about 20 years, I had a Nissan maxima that was purchased new and over the years even though it was well serviced it had a ton of problems, fuel injector, new transmission, HVAC fan, three door window suspension units, and lots more. While we had this car we purchased a used Lexus ES a year older than the Nissan, and in the years we kept that car until it was 22, the only problems it ever had were the volume control knob on the stereo got loose we had that fixed and is was expensive and we had a power steering hose develop a leak, easy fix. So for us we replaced the Nissan with a new Toyota Highlander and eventually the Lexus with a used Lexus LS and both have been trouble free for many years now.
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If you want something yo put miles in get a super c. Renegade or show hauler. Plus they can be as posh as a class a put has serviceability everywhere.
If you can come up with 150ish...a nonslide H or rivet XL prevost is really the only choice. Id go for the H...
Thanks Andrew for sharing . You mentioned things I would not think of take care be safe 😎
You should seriously look at the 2020 Newmar New Aire 35 footer
with the 450 HP Cummins, special steering set-up, pure luxury in a sports-car Coach. REALLY CHECK IT OUT!
We run a Tiffin with 920 watts of solar 600ah of lithium. We fulltime boondock and run 9k to 10k a year. There have been suspension changes made koni shocks and a safety plus. Our coach is awesome we do our preventative maintenance and annual inspections. The problems we have had have been minor because of our maintenance program. If you think you can own a large motorhome without a maintenance program and drive it 20k a year You're dreaming.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who is thinking Super C. I would also like to see you get a used Prevost but the cheapest one you can find and completely customize it add slides complete new interior it would be a ton of great content and would be super interesting to see what it would cost to redo a lower price prevo
Look at the 2020 Horizon 42 Q. There are only 8 new ones left in the whole country.
Amazing chassis, lots of room and the selling price is excellent.
You already walked thru one.
I put 6000 miles on mine this summer. It can handle 20,000 / yr
Your 07 might bring $80,000.
My 07 Ellipse. 40FD with a 400ISL sold for $70,000, but it needed tires and a few windows were fogged.
Thanks for the information and honesty...I've started out with a 2011 tiffin allegro 38 red ..really love its power and handling...your experiences and thoughts have made me think about rving a little differently..thanks for your time.
I think a non slide Prevost for just you and your dog would be good. You don't need all the fancy stuff. Those Prevost run down the highway blazing when I see them.
May as well jump in with my suggestion... 06 07 Newell - will age very well based on styling, quality/power are only matched by a prevost, and if you snag one for low 200's depreciation won't break the bank! Would be my personal choice!
Andrew, you should buy a Prevost coach! Love to see you in one... one of those dealerships you’ve advertised their coaches should give you a good deal on one!
You can do a ton of maintenance on that Tiffin and not get anywhere close to Prevost cost. Consider the $$$ you are going to have into a Prevost, that is a continuing depreciating asset. + 10 to below, Super C would be a lot less money and maintenance friendly with forward motor.
That’s great that you are moving to a Prevost. You should be able to get $125,000 or more with all you have done to it and you have the audience to do it! Everyone knows how well you take care of it an everything that has been done. It might help for some folks if you could tell how many miles are on it and mileage and age of the tires. Plus yours is like a Celebrity Coach now maybe someone will buy just because you owned it! Best Wishes and keep us posted with all of those videos. We know it is a lot of work.
Dude- NO Forest River!!
Used Prevost buddy! That’s my next one for sure. Just sold a Newmar Dutchstar and loved it. Started with a tent and everything in between! Time to get the best for us anyway. Good luck!
A Bluebird Wanderlodge is what you should be looking at to purchase. Even though they are not made anymore, they are the best bang for your buck. And I believe there are a few single owners for sale at the moment.
Bluebird and Newell both are better than a Prevost conversion. Bluebird, like Newell makes their own chassis. Too bad Bluebird got out of the motor coach market. Wanderlodge was an amazing coach!
Dude how much did you just spend on that upgrade wasn’t it like 30k, hard to recoup that
You may sell the Tiffin faster.
But he won't re coup the improvement $$$$ s
Andrew, since your clips will be “out there” for a long time, I’d like to suggest that you proof your links and insert two apostrophes. DEAN’S Channel and JAMES’ channel . Keep this good content coming.
Pickin up what you’re puttin down, but I’ve put about 4,000 miles this summer on my ‘97 holiday rambler endeavor diesel with no issues. I don’t see how racking up miles would hurt the house part of the rv in something like mine any more than a bus chassis except that maybe the bus chassis rides a little smoother. Y’all, putting 20-30k miles a year on any diesel pusher should not be a struggle for it.
Great time to sell! Unload the Tiffan, use mom and dads till the market flips and then scoop up a nice Prevost.
After you drove that Prevost it was only a matter of time till you had to have one.
Excellent plan.
Ted Ramage I concur
True...I remember that look on his face in the pilot's seat in that video.
I think a Newell will fit your needs. I kinda remember you coming to that conclusion when u did the Newell/ Prevost comparison a few months ago!
Hey Andrew,
Love your videos. I think now definitely is the best time to sell your Tiffin and get your money back. My goal would be to try my best to basically break even which means you still win big because you have used your Tiffin several times and added a few more thousand miles on it. So if you can get out and not lose that would be awesome.
Next I would wait a while till the market readjusts on RV’s because we all know the future deals will post pandemic and many of the folks who bought during this time will be looking to sell and the market should have some great deals especially with all your connections.
I know you’re trying to go full time TH-cam but you might consider striking a deal with a production company to drive their products and review the coach for the rest of us.
Great idea you love driving them make money doing it.win win.
Purchased a brand new 42ft Tiffin Allegro Bus in 2006. It fee apart in 4 yrs, everything broke. Only Bus conversions for me. Love my Wanderlodge...
Wow Andrew...
I hope everything's work's out my friend..Can't wait your new RV
You should get the Prevost with the mid door entry and get Kyle to customize it for you.
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Provost is the best in my opinion... that’s why they cost so much... amenities... made to run...but you’re correct.. and I agree when you buy an Escalade for example... more stuff to break..
I just sold my first RV (barley and technically an RV since it had hookups and toilet) it was a 1999 Coleman Tao's popup camper only an 8 footer, we towed it with my Prius !! Bought for $1,500 used it all summer and then sold it for $3,500, did nothing to it, and cashed in. Now I want a coach..... ;)
As for what you should get, it should be a Newell, reason being the word Newell is so cool to say over and over. Even better when you can say it while owning one.
@@CaSchamber new mar sounds cool also but i like the way u think brohem :)
@@NomadicSociety Say them both out in a southern accent, it's the best. (I'm from Missouri originally) LOL
Go ahead and get a prevost like you always wanted. Liberty coach and it will look good with the RV property in Vegas you were talking about
Just remember, 50,000 people are sitting on the edge of their chair to see what you buy, me included. Have to have a Class A so you can use your new spot in Montana.
Thank you for following the journey!!
I think you should get a Super C. Those are built to be driven. I have seen some nice ones recently on a F550 with 4WD. I would assume that it would be lease expensive to maintain and they can tow a lot with it.
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You need a Prevost 1996-2000 riveted non slide. I would prefer a Liberty, Marathon, Country Coach in that order. Polish and detail and have the nicest rig of that era. I would like that for myself but I have a family of four, so we went with a CC Magna.
Andrew if you read this what would happen at the 2 Class A RV resorts that you have bought a spot at if you decided to buy a Super C or even a Class B RV? Could you still use them? Sorry if it is a silly question.
Look at Wanderlodge's. Same quality as Prevost and newell but at a better price
List it for $125,000. Bite the bullet and buy a Newell or Prevost in your price range.....Or, what about a Leisure Travel Van? They have separate toilet and showers, no wet heads. They look pretty darn nice.
Consider buying a C class or a super C, for the simple fact that the motor is in front Which makes it much easier to work on and distributes more power, It's also safer having the engine in front in case of a head on collision, its easier to drive because of the location of the front wheels and the position of the Sideview mirrors. I would imagine there's less stress on the engine as well with the cooling power coming right in the front rather than having to pull it in from the back. I think the seats are more designed for long drives also.
Awesome! Love the Tiffin, but been secretly hoping you would upgrade soon to a nice previously loved Prevost or Newell, for some great ownership content =D. Following along on your search, keep up the great work!
No need to justify a change, you have the rv bug . Embrace and enjoy . You spent enough time at Newell, call Karl Blade and comission a new coach. It would be ready by mid March. If it's good enough for Nascar it will work for you.
Doing $5k over the summer is nothing. RVs need to be built to be driven. Can you imagine not being able to drive a car 1500 miles per month? Or tell a sailer you are sailing your boat too much? The RV industry needs to step it up like the SUV industry had to do 20 years ago.
Get a Used Renegade...Interiors are dated but so are the Tiffin’s..
I know you will want a prevost but would love to see you in a Country Coach!
definitely!!
Country coach has everything you would ever need
What about that 2016 Country Coach? Isn't that a good driver for long distances? It's definitely priced right. They have the comfort steer on that rig, too. Once a month I go look a that video, I just love the front kitchen and mid-ship living room. It's my ideal coach.
It sold bot that was an awesome coach!
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele bummer, I envy the new owner, I hope he gets years of great enjoyment.
Hi Andrew....well, it is definitely non standard times. I'd bet you could get low to mid retail on your rig + 50% of your interior upgrade. Normally, I'd say you're going to be eating your interior upgrade and the highest you could hope for is low retail.
Though I hate to see you get rid of your Phaeton as you haven't really had it very long, it will be exciting to see what you do get. With your status and contacts, I'm sure you are going to stumble onto a Prevost that will be within your $$ comfort zone in no time.
Best of luck in your search!!
I think your Tiffin is amazing. Your comments about needing to baby the Tiffin to keep it from breaking worry me. I think of the Phaeton as a top notch coach with an excellent chassis and drive train. I'm curious to know what you're considering other than the Prevost. That's well outside my zip code.
Ok, so I'm 42 seconds the video and acting like a crazy man setting yes yes yes yes yes!!! I have been waiting to hear those word I'm ready to sell!!!! Hot damn, the new owner is getting a dialed in coach that needs nothing not even upgrading! This for one who is looking is getting a real dream of a coach! Ok back to the the rest of the video, I can't wait thanks to Dean for the sponsor of this video! Now back to our regularly scheduled programming!
Assuming its fully paid, I would ask for the value plus recent upgrades. Less new owners must pay and wait for. Love the channel.
Why does your Tiffin wear you out to drive? Are you sawing the wheel a lot?
I just knocked down 650 miles in 11 hours on Saturday and never tired. Although I’ve done some suspension upgrades to our Dynasty, it drives like a dream and I’d rather drive it than the car.
We only put about 8k miles a year on it since we quit racing but I can see us doing many more miles once we are able to retire. Our Dynasty only has 128k miles on her so there’s a lot of life left in her yet.
Good luck on your search.
Mike
Dean should find someone that will let him paint the turtles on a coach.
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RVing with Andrew Steele you should get a prevost and hire a driver
We are thinking about moving to a Coach now because of Physical issues I'm dealing with. I love to Tow, always been my preferred. Bring the house with us and leave it. Now though at 58 just getting harder to set up get in and out of among other things. Most likely a C but a big one that won't have any issues with pulling our Fusion on a Trailer. Market is fast becoming a Buyers one as folks have tried Pandemic RVing and finding it wasn't for them. Hoping that sweet deal will be out there for us. Still love our 2012 North Trail, if I could drive like I used to it be no issue. Oh well.
Renegade classic with a dd13 and cold weather package which is about r25 insulation great for summer also
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Good luck Andrew in your search, love your video’s. Question: I’ve got a 2020 Tiffin bus and I’d like to tow a van but have been told you can’t (wheels down) . I noticed in this video that you have done this. Can you do a video on towing a van? I’d like to go down the main highway’s in the Tiffin bus and then use a small converted van for exploring the local area. Even do some overnight stream side small campground parking in the van. Would be cool to get your thoughts on this kind of travel. Thanks
I disconnected the driveline physically every time I towed it. was a bit of a process but not to hard, just 4 bolts and a couple ratchet straps and about an extra 15 minutes for set up. There are a few guys online that have talked about it in forums and blue ox makes the base plate for sprinters.
RVing with Andrew Steele Thanks Andrew!
Norm
Get a Newmar Dutch Star 4081, perfect for your 2 RV locations. With the Spartan
Ask $155-160k in this market; with the updated Reno it looks younger.
Andrew I think I'm going to make this easy on you. I'm wanting to know what brand of RV that you believe is the most dependable as in mechanically. I intend to put a lot of miles throughout United States it's me and my dog and I will be installing network devices around the country. I don't care about slides I want something that is absolutely mechanically sound and dependable. I am limited to $250,000 so what do you personally think would be the right choice.
I've seen Nice Used Newell's, reasonably priced on RV Trader
Recently subscribed to your channel. Enjoy it! Also, I learned from you DON'T BUY an RV. Your honesty tells me that I'll stick with my Chrysler Pacifica and my favorite hotel/motel chain. Too much of a hassle owning and money down the drain with a Class A that costs more than my home.
So this is just a question since it's on you, but you spent all that time in Oregon at Preimer RV. No interest in a Country Coach? No secret that I'm prejudiced on the subject, but it seems you could pick up a really nice CC for a decent price. Between their quality construction and the Dynamax chassis those coaches were made to last.
Country coach is an option as well!
I love the idea of moving to the Prevost - and for all the correct reasons - you explained it well.
What year is your Tiffin ?
08
You'll never be happy until you have the best . Which would be Prevost.
Newell is way better than Prevost
I can't wait to see what you choose next!!!!
Hi Andrew...good luck selling your Tiffin
What's your opinion on Super C
Renegade 45' interests me
Thanks
Ask retail for your Phaeton. Look at RVT for comparables. You can always come down. Once you get in the 100K price range or higher the longer it typically takes to sell.
If you want a Prevost I would look at Marathon, Liberty and Featherlite. We opted for a Wanderlodge. Glad we did. It's the bus no one talks about.
I knew, sooner than later, you would get the itch...lol..Too many beautiful coaches have passed you by...
Pull the trigger, But make sure that coach is everything, you have discussed in your videos...Be Smart. And hit a home run..
I think you need to look at Super C’s
I was thinking same
The Montana lot, and the Vegas place he looked at are in Class A ONLY facilities.
Look at Renegade Verona, Super C... it's in my future!
Why do you recommend them over a pusher?
Suck it up and get a preowned Prevost. You won’t be happy until you do! Bide you’re time and hold out for a coach in your price range that has been faithfully loved. Then don’t look back. You seem to be particularly fond of Emerald and Marathon, seek out an endorsement deal from both of those Coach builders. Your channel is popular enough to help any of these manufacturers sell more coaches. Go for it!
Beware all those Mercedes chassises have a very low cargo carrying capacity once an RV is built on them. I was really wanting one for a while but they just can't carry enough weight. I think the bare bones minimum CCC for a couple is 1500 pounds and you really want 2000 pounds or more. The Winnebago Navion 24V for example only has a CCC of 950 pounds. You put a couple of people in it with their clothes dishes food etc and your going to probably be over weight. That's the reason everybody that buys one of these Mercedes RVs immediately starts adding sway bars and suspension modifications to them to try and make them ride better when the problem is they're probably over weight.
I think you should keep your rv motorhome because you have done a lot to it and it's a great rv for you
Have you considered a non-slide Prevost then having one or two slides installed? I understand that it costs about 1500 to 2000 per foot for slides. If you do an 8 foot in the bedroom then a 22 foot in the living area that's 45-60k which I think is a lot less than buying a double slide unit. I'd love to know your thoughts on this. Good luck on your sale and purchase. Love your videos.
OMG. YOU'RE MY LONG LOST COUSIN. MY NAME IS KEVIN STEELE FROM PENNSYLVANIA
Definitely a sellers market right now.
Maybe for entry level used... not to much 100k+ used. Lots for sale
Big decisions to be made. Don’t know the budget but there’s going to be so many options haha.