If John Grammaticus has a million haters, then I am one of them. If John Grammaticus has ten haters, then I am one of them. If John Grammaticus has only one hater then that is me. If John Grammaticus has no haters, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is for John Grammaticus, then I am against the world.
@@murphy7801alright john grammaticus is the type of guy to stumble into something strange and put his hands on his hips and say "what's all this then?"
Fun fact, originally this was Chrono's review of The End and the Death Part 3 but he noticed the script was just "All John Grammaticus and no logic makes Chrono an angry boy" over and over so we got this video instead.
Adding something about why these two characters who have the same kind of plot armour are received so differently. Erebus is handwringing and Grammaticus is hand waving.
And puts the toilet paper roll on the wrong way. He also doesn’t make the next pot of coffee. And chews with his mouth open. And clogs the toilet when invited over to the neighbors’ house for dinner. Leaves his cigarette butts on the ground, 3 feet from the butt can.
@@livefromtheblacklibrary i will not tolerate this, Samus is one of my favourite characters, he's also more like an Ewok. They're both just some silly guys doing silly shenanigins in the middle of a galactic conflict!
Come to think of it, Abaddon is kinda like a reverse John Grammaticus: he's a good character when in the spotlight but the less he's shown the more he sucks.
“You’re telling me you were just making this all up Ol! You never had a plan!?” John to Ol Pearson Yeah, this is Dan making a confession right here on the whole series.
What annoyed me most there was that I'll never said he had a plan, in fact the whole harping on taking it on faith thing was irritatingly in your face throughout. Totally ignores everything.
My favourite part about End and the Death Vol III is John’s fate Dude has to spend all of forever going through the locations of the heresy to make sure the future happens, which we know he does because the future present and past all occur. Meaning John did/is doing/and will do that forever.
@@khuri9030 "So help me Cegorach", if anything. Or Asuryan. I *presume* the Harlequins still hold faith and respect for the rest of the pantheon despite serving Cegorach specifically. But they're also all dead. Except Isha... who is captured... and Khaine... who is shattered
"Does [being a logokine] warrant the atttention of the Emperor?" It does if it means he can speak Enuncia. Big E was so dangrously infatuated with that tongue Ollianus Pius had to destory the Tower of Babel. This doesn't redeem the character or anything. I just thought this point in partiuclar fell flat.
Did they ever make that the point of his character because if they didn't then cronos point didn't fall flat also it seems like a no brainer and something that he could actually affect without coming off as a OC
@@charlyjordan3545 Using warp speech so powerful that it was/could have simply deleted the warp to knock someone on their ass is probably the most retarded way to wield such power. As said once before, using the reality warping to summon a tapdance show of by the C'tan crew would be less immersion breaking.
I mean considering the crazy bs Eunica is shown to do honestly it makes sense why the Big E is obsessed with it, hell I'd be obsessed with it given half the crazy stuff its done
John Grammaticus was meant to be James Bond. In Legion? You can't read him as anything other than the classic James Bond. .. the other books are a crappy Tumblr/Twitter OC version. I think Dan was forced to bring him back, and resented it, so he tried writing a character to make the editors mad enough to kill off. Pretty sure they didn't notice.
Seeing as Abnett has been producing "worse than tumblrinas AI boyfriend" level writing for a while, i think its more that some prior works were lightning in a bottle. After all, no good writer would ever retcon a story of how no matter who you are, the lowliest soldier to the closest a physical god could be, you are still human and its the humanity which matters/will be both your main strength and downfall to a magic trick illusion show with a bad liquid crystal wafer based side reference to TTS (that wasn't even on jetbikes nor would send one to ultramar).
I gotta say going into this warhammer 40k lore video the last thing I expected to discover was that Martin Luther King was assassinated by time traveling aliens.
He's like ciaphas cain but in reverse plot armor. Ciaphas cain see's john carmmaticus and how he serves the Imperium of man and the emperor. Ciaphas cain tell Jurgen to hold his beer. Same goes for Sebastian Yarick and gaunt. To show john carmmaticus how it's done right.
If only John Grammaticus died at the end of the Legion book, it would fit his story so damn good and we wouldn't have to suffer the stuff he does afterwards as well.
My first video of Chrono’s was about TEATD Vol. II and his rant about John Grammaticus in there reminded me of Kitten from TTS ranting about the Tau (which I loved). Glad he could finally get it all out lol
Ngl, I hated him after the shadow crusade and Legion, and I was kinda hyped when I found your channel and saw that I wasn’t the only one. But he kinda grew on me over the Siege of Terra. Not sure why.
about Ol’ fighting in the unification wars, I got the impression from a few different stories that Ol’ is so old and has lived so many lives that sometimes he forgets large chunks of the past if he’s not actively working to remember.
My first exposure to John Grammaticus was in The First Heretic. In the middle of an extremely bleak, dramatic and dark audiobook, suddenly in comes some American guy who reveals he's a spy to Sairene, a space marine finds him and SETS HIM ON FIRE. And this guy starts making jokes about how he's never been burned to death before. Such a massive tonal shift and that voice really makes it bizarre.
I cant take John Grammaticus seriously because his last name is so similar to “grammar”. Makes me think that in 40k people get called a “john grammaticus” instead of a grammar nazi
During my nearly 4 years of Warhammer 40k fanaticism (beginning when I first read, nay, absorbed, _Horus Rising_ in county jail, of all places) I've slept on this character. No longer, I have a need to know everything about The Setting. John Gramaticus is intensely interesting. Thank you for this entry, Brother
@erdachtzumuntergang During an (alleged) average, routine, retail merchboost mission, I was charged with 'resisting' the detainment commands of 2 nonplussed Street Judges patrolling the Walmart commercblock. Who then proceeded to perform a nonvehicular P.I.T. maneuver on my face, then consigning me to a 2 week term in the Tulsa County isocubes. 😁
19:50 To be fair, when captured by the Alpha Legion, the pet pyrokine that the Alphas have with him warns him not to use mind tricks because he will burn him immediately.
I think what pisses me off about John is that he's canonically the last catholic in the 40k universe. And as a catholic myself, this offends me on a fundamental level. XD
It just feels like he's really, really out of place. This is the Siege of Terra, possibly the most climatic event in the universes history but instead of focusing on, y'know, THE CHARACTERS WE ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT, nope we gotta focus on Warhammers Doctor Who
I never read the books, but from the example given to me, it seems to be that John is the textbook example of just because someone’s old or older than you mean they’re much more mature or wise.
The Codex Astartes does not support this ac- Shut the f*ck up, Leandros! The Codex Astartes supports your mom being dead! Dead as hell! That's why your grandma ain't got no knees! She can't pray to the God-Emperor!
John was ok in legion and I geniuenly felt sorry for him because it was clead that he was never going to be allowed to rest in peace and would have to live to witness the results of his actions. Ive not read the siege of terra books yet so ill wait until after to watch this.
i am so mad about this, i am working through the horus heresy books and not made it to know no fear yet so i thought he died at the end of legion BUT NO HE IS STILL FUCKING ALIVE, his "death scene" at the end of legion was so fucking good
Im pretty sure he and his companions survive traveling to the planet at the end of Legion in a drop pod... which after the previous books I was led to believe is incredibly violent even for space marines
I agree with the take on Legion. It was pretty good. I read other ones first and was taken aback at how I suddenly cared about that subplot. It gave me hope. Then he took up page count in a later book to try and kill Vulkan's soul? Vulkan? Why?
Oll and john reminds me of that one Spiderman meme where peter is thinking of trying to make something out of the situation, and Miles is just acting goofy.
Argonauts and the Perpetual plotlines were the biggest waste of time for the entire series. Only one that might be worse is the Sallies stuff. Genuinely had more fun with the one-off throw away stories like Nemisis and Outcast Dead which didn't stink up the entire series.
I'm not a WH fan by any means. But reading the wikis I take it that John G. is the "Reed Richards / Doctor Who" character of the 40K universe. Unnecessary having a super scientist in a setting where the fiction is dominated by artificial angels with guns that shoot explosive rounds.
I think it's going to be revealed that JG isn't being resurrected but cloned and each iteration has different abilities. That's why he's so inconsistent. Every time you meet him he literally is a new character. Worse, I'm sure they are planning some awful reveal with him. He's either a lost Primarch or Judas Iscariot who later we find out is a perpetual who lost his mind.
I listened to the Horus Heresy on Audible in whatever order the deem the correct order. I still had no fucking clue what half of the john g timeline even is. It's the story telling of fucking pasta
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This is the equivalent of a dwarf making a 26-hour video of why he hates elves. I'm still gonna watch it though
Except I'M the elf LMAO
@@livefromtheblacklibrary Give him one round of Leaf Lover's Special
A book like that wouldn't end for a Dwarf.
Never forget the War of the Beard.
Never forgive the Elves.
But will agree, John Dramatapuss sucks.
@@livefromtheblacklibrary Stop this charade. Now. Change the channel's name to 'Live from Mendregard' and get a proper Iron Warrior avatar
John Grammaticus canonically deals more damage to Horus than Sanguinius does.
I hadn't realized that and now I'm fuming
Thanks, Dan.
@@livefromtheblacklibrarydoes this Vol 3 sucks worse than a 100-year-old vacuum?
I hate this😂
Should've put john on the fucking cover.
'John Grammaticus' sounds like a name you give to a trope character to MacGuffin around
Which is what he does, and could also describe 75% of warhammer characters
Indeed, for that's what he is
Actual news reader on BBC4 Radio
John Macguffin
@@maltheri9833John MacGrufficus
If John Grammaticus has a million haters, then I am one of them. If John Grammaticus has ten haters, then I am one of them. If John Grammaticus has only one hater then that is me. If John Grammaticus has no haters, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is for John Grammaticus, then I am against the world.
Oh cool, the Warhammer meme guy.
I fucking hate John Grammaticus. I can't state this enough, he feels like neutered Lucius The Eternal.
Amen
I just watched your video and had to learn why John was such an ass
I thought he was a joke character
John Grammaticus is the kind of guy to go “oh jeepers” when slipping on a puddle
John Grammaticus is the kind of guy to go "jeez louise" when something catches him by surprise
😂
Not British enough. He would say "oh my"
@@murphy7801alright john grammaticus is the type of guy to stumble into something strange and put his hands on his hips and say "what's all this then?"
@@murphy7801He's not british.
Fun fact, originally this was Chrono's review of The End and the Death Part 3 but he noticed the script was just "All John Grammaticus and no logic makes Chrono an angry boy" over and over so we got this video instead.
Yep, this unironically is what happened
@@livefromtheblacklibrary what a legend
John Grammaticus is the type of guy to turn into an accordion after getting hit on the head with a mallet.
Erebus is the character folks love to hate, Grammaticus is the character that just deserves hate
Adding something about why these two characters who have the same kind of plot armour are received so differently.
Erebus is handwringing and Grammaticus is hand waving.
YEP LMAO, you put it perfectly
John Grammaticus drinks from the milk bottle and makes sure there isn't enough for breakfast the next morning.
Sanguinius' frosted nips...
That's awful!
Then puts the empty milk carton back in the fridge.
Now That's Purging if I ever seen one.
And puts the toilet paper roll on the wrong way. He also doesn’t make the next pot of coffee. And chews with his mouth open. And clogs the toilet when invited over to the neighbors’ house for dinner. Leaves his cigarette butts on the ground, 3 feet from the butt can.
I fucking love Johnny Linguisticus
And his brother, Joe Spellingus
And their nerd sidekick, Jonathan Syntaxicus
Don't forget Jessie Rhetoricus and Jeremy Semanticus and Joshua Etymoligus
Nathan lexicon and Trevor words
I love this thread
"Like, zoinks Oll, that Horus guy sure is scary"
Oh God, I won't not be able to see JG as shaggy now
(sees title) (looks at runtime) Oh yeah, that's what I'm talking about
I've accepted my role as a massive hater and I'm LIVING
The worst thing he has ever said in my opinion was: “I do not care about the Godfather” and “it insists upon itself “ like what does that even mean?
Of course it insists upon itself, it has a point to make!
“Something most think is profound but in reality is pretentious and ostentatious.”
Takes two seconds to Google something bro.
Made me laugh my ass off, thanks
Sly Marbo looks at John Grammaticus, and felt pitty for him. For he isn't Sly Marbo
Sly feels that way for all others.
@@jasonroberts4470 but for the sake of the joke, it goes double for him
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-" Sly Marbo's opinion on this issue
@@breadstick4458 pure poetry.
“If I weren’t John Grammaticus, I’d like to be Sly Marbro”
-John Grammaticus
“If I weren’t Sly Marbro, I’d also like to be Sly Marbro”
-Sly Marbro
IN THIS HOUSEHOLD WE HATE JOHN GRAMMATICUS
IN THIS HOUSE, IN THIS BLACK, IN THIS TOWN, IN THIS COUNTRY, ACROSS THE WORLD
All my homies hate Johnny G
*Heavy breathing and fork hitting plates noises* He may be a hero out dere, but in dish housh John Grammaticus ish a fanouk!
Your house is in a bad neighborhood so no one cares
Oh god I can hear the noises... @@coreyhoster6558
John Grimaticus is the Jar Jar Binks of 40k
At least he jar kar make laugh and not cry out of frustration.
No that's Samus, John is the young Anakin Skywalker
@@livefromtheblacklibrary i will not tolerate this, Samus is one of my favourite characters, he's also more like an Ewok. They're both just some silly guys doing silly shenanigins in the middle of a galactic conflict!
@@crockles8754 Samus is silly for you when the poor victim he's using for his jumpscare is not your friend or your loved ones.
@@livefromtheblacklibrary Midichlorians
Come to think of it, Abaddon is kinda like a reverse John Grammaticus: he's a good character when in the spotlight but the less he's shown the more he sucks.
Obliviously The Author did not go on 200 page long adventure with JOHN FREAKIN GRAMMATICUS
I thought I hated John Grammaticus more than anyone. Then I listened to your rant.
You Hate John Grammaticus more than I do.
Kudos.
“I-It’s not like I like you or anything, John… BAKA!” -Crono
“You’re telling me you were just making this all up Ol! You never had a plan!?” John to Ol Pearson
Yeah, this is Dan making a confession right here on the whole series.
What annoyed me most there was that I'll never said he had a plan, in fact the whole harping on taking it on faith thing was irritatingly in your face throughout. Totally ignores everything.
yeah but the point of grimdark is that youre not supposed to say the quiet part out loud.
Your hate for John could power an Astronomican lol
My favourite part about End and the Death Vol III is John’s fate
Dude has to spend all of forever going through the locations of the heresy to make sure the future happens, which we know he does because the future present and past all occur. Meaning John did/is doing/and will do that forever.
Nice
God, Chrono is such a Tsundere.
SO HELP ME GOD
@@livefromtheblacklibraryyou mean So Help Me God Emperor?
I have a feeling I’ll understand this once I finish the video
@@khuri9030 "So help me Cegorach", if anything. Or Asuryan. I *presume* the Harlequins still hold faith and respect for the rest of the pantheon despite serving Cegorach specifically. But they're also all dead. Except Isha... who is captured... and Khaine... who is shattered
"Does [being a logokine] warrant the atttention of the Emperor?"
It does if it means he can speak Enuncia.
Big E was so dangrously infatuated with that tongue Ollianus Pius had to destory the Tower of Babel.
This doesn't redeem the character or anything. I just thought this point in partiuclar fell flat.
Did they ever make that the point of his character because if they didn't then cronos point didn't fall flat also it seems like a no brainer and something that he could actually affect without coming off as a OC
@@isiahalcindor6278 yes. The only reason the loyalists stopped horus was John using a word of Enuncia to stun him to buy time.
Makes sense why Lorgar is so into it.
@@charlyjordan3545 Using warp speech so powerful that it was/could have simply deleted the warp to knock someone on their ass is probably the most retarded way to wield such power.
As said once before, using the reality warping to summon a tapdance show of by the C'tan crew would be less immersion breaking.
I mean considering the crazy bs Eunica is shown to do honestly it makes sense why the Big E is obsessed with it, hell I'd be obsessed with it given half the crazy stuff its done
Erebus over John Grammaticus?! Good lord, you DO hate J.G.
I can’t.
I will always hate Erebus over JG.
LETS GOOOO, WE HATE GRAMATICUS IN THIS HOUSE
GET HIS ASS
All my homies hate gramaticus
Your rants are he best structured 40k rants on youtube, not one other channel gets to the bone marrow like you 💯
THANKS MAN XD
I'm genuinely convinced the normal human perpetuals in the Heresy were more pointless than The Furios Abyss
Battle for the abyss was such a bad book. Felt so pointless. I regretted getting that book
@@PinkyDink7at least it wasn't about perpetuals
@@Brandelwyn well true, they are pretty bland and boring. Sad how he went from an ok character to honestly the worst. Just badly wrote, all of them
John Grammaticus tried touching my Abacus.
I couldn't keep him from my thesaurus
John Grammaticus taught the entire world to love again
I can *feel* the hours of hatred poured into making this scrip
John Grammaticus was meant to be James Bond. In Legion? You can't read him as anything other than the classic James Bond.
.. the other books are a crappy Tumblr/Twitter OC version.
I think Dan was forced to bring him back, and resented it, so he tried writing a character to make the editors mad enough to kill off. Pretty sure they didn't notice.
Seeing as Abnett has been producing "worse than tumblrinas AI boyfriend" level writing for a while, i think its more that some prior works were lightning in a bottle. After all, no good writer would ever retcon a story of how no matter who you are, the lowliest soldier to the closest a physical god could be, you are still human and its the humanity which matters/will be both your main strength and downfall to a magic trick illusion show with a bad liquid crystal wafer based side reference to TTS (that wasn't even on jetbikes nor would send one to ultramar).
I gotta say going into this warhammer 40k lore video the last thing I expected to discover was that Martin Luther King was assassinated by time traveling aliens.
Ok, maybe aliens aren't so bad after all.
Johnny Grimbo truly is the Hamwarmer 40'000
John frickin gramaticus
He's like ciaphas cain but in reverse plot armor. Ciaphas cain see's john carmmaticus and how he serves the Imperium of man and the emperor. Ciaphas cain tell Jurgen to hold his beer. Same goes for Sebastian Yarick and gaunt. To show john carmmaticus how it's done right.
When you said "I love Erebus" is genuinely put down the mini I was painting and glared at my phone.
He does do a Jedi mind trick in legion - when he’s discovered in Rhuksana’s quarters
Kind of ironic that Oll dies the EXACT WAY you want John to doe lol
John grammaticus is what happens when josh Whedon writes warhammer
If only John Grammaticus died at the end of the Legion book, it would fit his story so damn good and we wouldn't have to suffer the stuff he does afterwards as well.
My first video of Chrono’s was about TEATD Vol. II and his rant about John Grammaticus in there reminded me of Kitten from TTS ranting about the Tau (which I loved). Glad he could finally get it all out lol
PFFFTT LMAO, I’m honoured XD
"I want him backhanded into the next dimension"
Horus did that to LE-2 and dude just walked back
"I love erebus"
Opinion discarded instantly
Ngl, I hated him after the shadow crusade and Legion, and I was kinda hyped when I found your channel and saw that I wasn’t the only one. But he kinda grew on me over the Siege of Terra. Not sure why.
Stockholm Syndrome
@@livefromtheblacklibrary😂
This is how I feel as well. In the seige (as far as I've read) he's doing well
I just realized something. He is literally just Captain Jack Harkness, but in Warhammer. American accent and all.
Yeah but none of the charm of Captain Jack lol.
Let’s not forget he was against the Emperor in the Emperor’s presence and we’re supposed to believe he didn’t get his ass smote for that instantly.
Drinking game: take a shot everytime you hear "that being"
I think John Grammaticus actually did the Jedi mind trick thingy in Legion, but certainly not on a space marine and it wasn’t permanent
John Grammaticus is the typa dude that stumbles onstage and is taken back out by a comically long cane
about Ol’ fighting in the unification wars, I got the impression from a few different stories that Ol’ is so old and has lived so many lives that sometimes he forgets large chunks of the past if he’s not actively working to remember.
He managed to go the whole way through this without even mentioning the time travelling eldar scissors of destiny.
My first exposure to John Grammaticus was in The First Heretic.
In the middle of an extremely bleak, dramatic and dark audiobook, suddenly in comes some American guy who reveals he's a spy to Sairene, a space marine finds him and SETS HIM ON FIRE.
And this guy starts making jokes about how he's never been burned to death before.
Such a massive tonal shift and that voice really makes it bizarre.
John and Draco sitting beside each other contemplating their massive self importance
I cant take John Grammaticus seriously because his last name is so similar to “grammar”. Makes me think that in 40k people get called a “john grammaticus” instead of a grammar nazi
"Oh, here's the video chrono kept saying he was gonna upload. What's the runti-45 MINUTES???"
During my nearly 4 years of Warhammer 40k fanaticism (beginning when I first read, nay, absorbed, _Horus Rising_ in county jail, of all places) I've slept on this character. No longer, I have a need to know everything about The Setting.
John Gramaticus is intensely interesting. Thank you for this entry, Brother
May I ask what you did to land in jail?
@erdachtzumuntergang During an (alleged) average, routine, retail merchboost mission, I was charged with 'resisting' the detainment commands of 2 nonplussed Street Judges patrolling the Walmart commercblock.
Who then proceeded to perform a nonvehicular P.I.T. maneuver on my face,
then consigning me to a 2 week term in the Tulsa County isocubes. 😁
@@surtaandume_psykermystyk4010 the pigs finest
I really hate your voice but you are the smartest analyst on 40k so you deserve a sub and a like.
Honestly, that would put you in the minority because that's one thing people compliment me on consistently when they hear me stuff BUT THANKS
19:50 To be fair, when captured by the Alpha Legion, the pet pyrokine that the Alphas have with him warns him not to use mind tricks because he will burn him immediately.
Legion is such a good book. Read it on deployment and absolutely loved it.
Salamanders.... get the flamers.
*THE HEAVY FLAMERS.*
SIR YES, SIR
Heavy framers aren't even enough, get the multi melta
@@bushsbakedbeans2348 empty out the armory
Summon the Exterminatus!
Honestly, just blow up the sun just to be safe.
I think what pisses me off about John is that he's canonically the last catholic in the 40k universe. And as a catholic myself, this offends me on a fundamental level. XD
That's ollanius, unless I missed something (or its at the very end). Viva Christo Rey!
@@kingofsicily Viva Christo Rey! And you're right, it's Ollanius. I've might gotten It mixed up in the End and the Death vol. 2 video
If the Emperor is Jesus, doesn't that mean that everyone in the Imperium is Catholic after a fashion? 😄
The entire argonauts arc is sooo painfull
Lol
Man is out here written like a Steven Segal protagonist...bet he runs like him too
John Grammaticus is the 40k equivalent of Olaf form Frozen.
It just feels like he's really, really out of place.
This is the Siege of Terra, possibly the most climatic event in the universes history but instead of focusing on, y'know, THE CHARACTERS WE ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT, nope we gotta focus on Warhammers Doctor Who
I never read the books, but from the example given to me, it seems to be that John is the textbook example of just because someone’s old or older than you mean they’re much more mature or wise.
I love how Grammaticus is portrayed by a guy who sounds like Phelous from Channel Awesome. Nobody knows why he talks that way
He always struck me as a Dr. Who character who stumbled into the wrong universe but kept his plot armor.
YEAH ACCUT
WH40K unholy trinity of "Fuck x character"
Leandros, John and Erebus.
The Codex Astartes does not support this ac-
Shut the f*ck up, Leandros! The Codex Astartes supports your mom being dead! Dead as hell!
That's why your grandma ain't got no knees! She can't pray to the God-Emperor!
I was waiting for this.
ME TOO MAN
Sometimes a character is not a character but just a plot device
John was ok in legion and I geniuenly felt sorry for him because it was clead that he was never going to be allowed to rest in peace and would have to live to witness the results of his actions.
Ive not read the siege of terra books yet so ill wait until after to watch this.
I’ve been waiting for this video since I first learned of your hatred for Johnny G
John Grammaticus as a name is on the same level as Jimmy Space
Sandman needs to do some reading on the Bobby Kennedy assassination…
I can't wait for the part 2 of this video that solely is about what he does in Vol 3
Have they made it so that he's different now than Marty Stu?
i am so mad about this, i am working through the horus heresy books and not made it to know no fear yet so i thought he died at the end of legion BUT NO HE IS STILL FUCKING ALIVE, his "death scene" at the end of legion was so fucking good
Im pretty sure he and his companions survive traveling to the planet at the end of Legion in a drop pod... which after the previous books I was led to believe is incredibly violent even for space marines
Having only read about John Grammaticus in Legion, I was confused… at first
JAAAAAHNN FREAKIN GRAMMMMATTTICUS!
It's wild he just Forrest Gump'd his was across the Horus Heresy
"excuse me where is your hall pass?"
It's me! Jyan Grammeeeeticus!
There's so many things I could say about this character, but really everytime he appeared it comepletely killed the momentum and immersion.
I wish there was more information out there about John. Like how did he stab Vulkan?
John Grammaticus is the second best character EVER.
Erda of course, is THE BEST EVER
Aren't Caldor Draigo and Cato Sicarius the best?
@@indrickboreale7381 It's Erebus for me
@@indrickboreale7381 no. They're too ugly 😂😂😂
@@MasterIceyy ohhhh! Badass
need Steven Seagal to play Johnny Linguisticus
I find his storylines great. People hate Legion, but it was the first 40k book I really loved.
I agree with the take on Legion. It was pretty good. I read other ones first and was taken aback at how I suddenly cared about that subplot.
It gave me hope. Then he took up page count in a later book to try and kill Vulkan's soul? Vulkan? Why?
I just remember at some point he will not be canon.
John Gramaticus is the type of guy that say "Bazinga" when he got his food order
Oll and john reminds me of that one Spiderman meme where peter is thinking of trying to make something out of the situation, and Miles is just acting goofy.
Argonauts and the Perpetual plotlines were the biggest waste of time for the entire series. Only one that might be worse is the Sallies stuff. Genuinely had more fun with the one-off throw away stories like Nemisis and Outcast Dead which didn't stink up the entire series.
I'm not a WH fan by any means. But reading the wikis I take it that John G. is the "Reed Richards / Doctor Who" character of the 40K universe. Unnecessary having a super scientist in a setting where the fiction is dominated by artificial angels with guns that shoot explosive rounds.
Ah as someone who's only read legion this explains why everyone hates him, thankyou.
I think it's going to be revealed that JG isn't being resurrected but cloned and each iteration has different abilities. That's why he's so inconsistent. Every time you meet him he literally is a new character.
Worse, I'm sure they are planning some awful reveal with him. He's either a lost Primarch or Judas Iscariot who later we find out is a perpetual who lost his mind.
11:35 could that have been the changeling then? would explain complete change in goals of eldrad
I listened to the Horus Heresy on Audible in whatever order the deem the correct order. I still had no fucking clue what half of the john g timeline even is. It's the story telling of fucking pasta
Drop, "the black library" from your handle. Trust me, it's trademarked.