I mean... they're still waiting for GRRM to release the last 2 books despite it having been over 13 years since he started on Book 6. I don't know that we'd have been THAT patient for the show, but making Seasons 7 & 8 full seasons would've gone a LONG way towards alleviating the criticism that it was a botched & rushed job (plus, you know, sequencing improvements & story improvements & making their biggest episode of the entire small-screen show visible on more than 5% of small screens)
If they had properly ended the show it would have gone a long way towards giving George more time and patience to finish the books. As things stand George will likely never finish and so the ending of the show will forever be the canon ending and I myself just cannot forgive that.
Well they did kinda fuck themselves itno a corner with Sansa, Arya, Jon, Caetlyn, Littlefinger, Basically everything Tyrion does in Essos. I mean ditching Arya's Warging? collapsing Jeyne Poole's stories onto Sansa without a lick of reasoning behind why Littlefinger woudl fuck up that badly? All the smart political masters suddenly eating lead paint chips for the off season till they're retarded.
Those two shit heads blew it. It's unlikely GRRM will finish the books, but he had the ending planned out. Even if the show couldn't adapt it 1:1, they could have took their time to have it at least make sense.
I fell asleep during the ending, never even bothered to re-watch it. I think falling asleep in the first 15 minutes of the last episode of a show like that says a lot.
The books gots me through my first year on mission in Aghanistan. Thousands of pages read and I couldn't wait for the rest. When the HBO show came out I was very apprehensive, however a battle buddy had the dvds so I gave it a chance. By season two I knew they were not going to honor the source material and abandoned ship after the second episode. Glad I did, but not at all happy with what they did to one of the greatest stories I have read. Still wondering if G.R.R. Martin can get off his ass and save his masterpiece. Him and Patrick Rothfuss....
Sounds more like a GoT problem if someone could watch literally everything else fine but then needs to turn the brightness up for one GoT episode. Especially when every other GoT episode was fine. It's obvious that they purposefully made it dark. @@tessdurberville711
@@tessdurberville711Idk what amazing screens or eyes you have.I have my phone on full brightness and I couldn’t see anything again in this pitch meeting. Just black screens with barely visible silhouettes. So I can vaguely see what’s probably going on but no details at all.
@@tessdurberville711 Thats what the show runners said, for a tv show episode that it should be watch in high end product. Most phones and tablet have high quality oled screens. for lcd monitor or screens which most people still have it doesnt look good. When media with higher budget manage to look adequate on any screens or tv.
I'm so damn glad it did, too. To me, it was pornhub dnd, as corny as it could be with random sex scenes that didn't need to exist. I'm so damn glad to hear how badly it ended because I honestly couldn't stand it. Everyone kept asking me about it like it's necessary for anyone that does play dnd to watch it, it was just so incredibly hollywooded that I just wished it would burn in a fire. Glad to see it actually did.
Agreed, I was ugly laugh-crying the first time I've heard it due to the sheer absurdity and sadness and anger I'd been feeling because of the last two seasons
But how can you destroy one of the best shows ever made in one season? David Benioff and D.B. Weiss saying together in harmony: "Super easy, barely an inconvenience"
It wasn't _just_ the last season. Even before they outran the books it was obvious that they didn't understand the story Martin was trying to tell, and once they had things like 'travel time' and 'distance' just stopped being things in the show, despite Westeros being the size of Europe and most everybody being unable to travel faster than a sailboat or horse.
@@boobah5643 "the story Martin was trying to tell" and which, to add insult to injury, he'll never finish. So the GoT ending will remain forever as the only ending of A Song of Ice and Fire.
to be fair it had been going downhill since about season 5 or 6, but there's a big difference between the "going downhill" of 5/6/7 and the "completely falling off a cliff" of season 8.
@@armoredchimp it feels all so pointless to invest that much time in something that the creators didn't respect the time we committed to watching it. Sad because I also think back on the glory days, but I would rather watch something that cares and has a fulfilling conclusion
I felt so betrayed by season 8. It was like Lost all over again. On the plus side, it torched my taste for GOT so much that I don't even miss it, unlike my favorite space western.
The fact that the line about Danny forgetting about the iron fleet is word for word from what David Benioff actually said is the most halarious part of the pitch meeting for me 😂
I'm just surprised Ryan didn't work in the "Themes are for 8th grade book reports" line. Benioff, one of the showrunners, outright said that in an interview for one of the earlier seasons... We should have known.
I just got done writing that I think the plot points in season 8 could have worked if they were fleshed out, and I think that even applies to Dany forgetting about the fleet. If they had shown her descent into madness and then the characters were in disbelief about her foolish decision making, even something as seemingly stupid as that could have been okay.
They should have ended it with a freeze frame after Drogon causes something to blow up, and the superimposed text: "Daenerys Targaryen, age 24, gave herself up to the authorities after the incident. She is now serving a life sentence."
That's literally what happened, the show runners wanted to work on other stuff but didnt want to hand the reigns over to someone else to they just ended it as quick as possible. HBO even offered them more episodes and seasons and they turned it down.
One of my smartest friends really liked it. He's extremely critical of other shows and movies for their illogical character behaviors and plot inconsistencies. I was baffled when he told me he liked the final season. Personally, I think it went downhill well before Season 8.
Everything went downhill the last few seasons (let's rape Sansa again, let's gather the main characters to go get a zombie, etc was all before season 8), so for me it was more of a "meh, expected".
Yeah people saying that was dumb to hide in the crypt, but as far they knew the walkers couldn’t get throw a wooden box. And the last stark dead in the crypt was ned, 8 years ago probably just his head the was body cremated i think, so should be very weak, and before ned, lyanna? Around 18 years ago? Her still have a body?
We had main characters die left and right in earlier seasons, then during the main battle only Jorah, Theon, and Lyanna dies. Why didn't Brienne and Tormund die? Their story was over at that point.
No, he de-aged himself for the rest of the video. Remember he's been time traveling since the 90s. (Now I think about it it doesn't actually matter what decade you begin time traveling because.. y'know.. time travel.. Whatever, he's old now because of time travel.)
This episode was how I got introduced to pitch meetings...I remember being frustrated with GOT ending so much I wanted to know what others felt about it too 😂
I was such a massive fan of GoT until that last season, and when I saw your Pitch Meeting it perfectly encapsulated why I hated it. I share the Pitch Meeting to anyone who wonders why I hated the ending so much. Thank you again for your service!
Season 7 was basically just as bad. I had the fortune (or misfortune) of basically binging the whole show in a few weeks and was also somewhat familiar with the books. After they stopped being a faithful adaptation, which happened somewhere through season 4, the quality started declining. Season 6 was solid despite that but 5 and especially 7 & 8 sucked ass.
GoT is still good, and even the last couple of seasons could have been good if executed better. D&D executed it in a different way and manner of speaking.
I sent this to any and everyone. And shared it multiple time. Ryan's pitch meeting was the PERFECT response to the dreck Dumb & Dumber tried to feed us. From cultural phenomenon to forgettable trash in 6 episodes. Understanding it slid in quality after season 5 we were still willing to forgive if it finished well. What an absolute waste.
He didn't talk about how every major military expert is a complete pants on the head retard. "You put the siege balistas IN FRONT OF THE WALL??" "You... charged the cavalry without flanking it... IN COMPLETE DARKNESS? That's not how you use cavalries! " Because Hollywood directors are so bad writers, they should hire military tacticians to look for flaws.
It's wild to think that the more time passes the more people will forget that so much of what producer guy is saying was actually what D&D were told. They could've had all the time and money they wanted but they turned it down because they were already thinking about their next series. It became something like karmic payback that the next series never happened.
yup and now they are basically begging people to watch their new Netflix show which ironically is also based on books it does look decent but i can't bring myself to support those morons
@@MaxHohenstaufen The two moronic showtunners of GoT. They single-handedly ruined the entire final season because they wouldn't let anyone else write/run/make descisions except themselves, and they just wanted to end it as fast as possible. That is why we got what we got for an ending. A rushed, half-assed mess of disjointed action sets and absolutely abysmal dialogue. When the season absolutely tanked and everyone hated it they lost the chance to direct their upcoming Star Wars project, which was the entire reason that they rushed GoT season 8 inbthe first place. So, basically, everybody lost. Courtesy of David Benioff and Dan Weiss.
@@dissuede6949 Oh, thanks for explaining. Well, at least it looks like there was some poetic justice in the end, they denied people of a proper ending to their beloved series, but were denied what they wanted to direct as a result.
Only Ryan is capable of reigniting my GoT Season 8 anger, then soothing it in the most wholesome, funny way possible 😄 Thanks for your many hours of hard work producing the pitch meetings Ryan 👏👏👏
It’s the final stage of grief: Ryan helps us ACCEPT that this actually happened, and justifies our grief by summarizing how much of a departure and disappointment this season was from what we spent almost a decade loving.
GoT season 8 pitch meeting is what got me to pitch meeting and I’ve been hooked ever since. For me, it was the repeated joke of the producer trying to get the writer to agree to more episodes and the writer both cursing the fact that there weren’t enough episodes to tell the story, while staunching resisting attempts to add more. Brilliant :)
I wouldn't say completely united. There was that cringy spinoff of the asoiaf subreddit who made a circlejerk community that tried really hard to pretend the final season was a masterpiece and that people were just hating on it because it was popular. Basically your standard schizophrenic hipsters
very true. I know its opinion based on whether people liked it or not, but I actually disagree. If anyone enjoyed season 8 then they clearly wern't paying attention to characters on screen
@@tessdurberville711 You genuinely believe all 46m are online and sign petitions? I hate the last season, I didnt sign the petition. But look at the critics rating, the audience rating. By every single measure the finale was a failure. Its easy to call someone just a hater, but there is near unanimous consensus that they screwed the pooch in the last season.
Fun fact: That was the first pitch meeting I ever saw! Saved me the time of watching the season and entertained me far better than it likely would have! And here we are years later still going strong!
If you watched the whole show you should still watch season 8. It’s ass but you can see what they were going for.. there is 2 seasons Jammed in but if done right it coulda been great
@@cameron9359 I do not want to spend the time watching something I know I will be dissapointed by. I am more than okay dropping a show if it screws itself. At least like this my last memories of watching the show were enjoyable
@@InvaderComgood idea. It’s absolute trash. Don’t let anyone convince you to watch it. I still try to watch the first seasons sometimes still but I can’t unsee that stupid ending and it hurts 😂
This was the first experience with this sketch, and it was so absolutely amazingly accurate and on point I've never left. And after 7 seasons this was the most cathartic thing ever. Needed ALL OF IT! THANK YOU! SCREW YOU Dan & Dave!!!
Check out glidus channel he was my therapy after the show.. Imo it was the whole bring an undead and show cersei so she joins forces w us that took the show off the logical rails and it never gets back on track.
And it's just a reflection of reality, too, because HBO essentially offered Dumb and Dumber *all the money* to continue GoT for as long as they needed!
This one has a special place for me as it was the first Pitch Meeting I ever saw… it was soooooo much better than GoT season 8. I shared it with everyone I knew and have now seen every pitch meeting.
Same here! I came across this one accidentally and enjoyed it so much that I spent the next six or seven days binge watching 250+ Pitch Meetings 😅 it was super easy tho, barely an inconvenience!
The first one I saw was for Squid Games after a local radio host mentioned it being funny on air. I was instantly hooked, watched everything Ryan's ever made, and am now a forever fan. He's a comedic genius. Have you watched his First Guy series? Or the videos about how things got their names? They're wonderful
This was the first Pitch Meeting I ever saw, and the week following, I watched every single other pitch meeting that was on the channel. I'm so glad you didn't stop making them!! So many years later and they're still just as brilliant.
This was the pitch meeting that got me hooked! Just amazing on so many levels - taking actual quotes from the producers ("She forgot"). I still can't believe Ryan missed the Arya saying 'I know a killer when I see one" referring to Dany to Jon.... as she talks to him in the smoldering ruin of Kings Landing with non-combats single handily murdered by Dany the thousands.
I could (and probably) have watched this Pitch Meeting hundreds of times. Utterly gleaming. It’s like potted Glidus. Wonderful. Thank you for doing what you do Mr George
"It's a very forgettable horse" 😅 Thanks for all the videos Ryan! Looking forward to many more. They're usually my first port of call after watching a movie. Seeing the sun is overrated!
Your Pitch Meetings are not only extremely funny, they are also great reviews. In 5 minutes you show every weak plotpoint in every movie, even movies that are considered masterpieces, Your concept seems so simple, but it is so brilliant, and as usual with content-creation it probably takes up a lot of your time, so thank you for the effort and the fun.
@10:38 Personally part of the reason I liked the GoT Season 8 pitch meeting *was the fact that it was aimed at the showrunners. It was cathartic to see even this this chaotic good venue bashing their poor decisions
I never got into Game of Thrones, but I absolutely loved how everyone everywhere was talking about it. When it was airing, when it was between seasons, it was regular. It's fun seeing so many people bonding over a common thing. And then there was an explosion of how everyone hated the final season followed by no one talking about Game of Thrones. I'm still shocked by how that transition felt.
Literally hit the nail on the head with every point, as usual. Ryan's videos should be required viewing for every writer, director and producer who comes up with an idea for a film or TV series. Season 8 will forever be viewed as the most epic failure of a series in television history.
This is the pitch meeting that introduced me to pitch meetings! I was on a bender watching every season 8 deconstruction video and I came across this and I must have watched it a dozen times over the years and it's great every time!
I'll never forget just how excited I was when the season 8 premier was about to air. It's hard to remember me ever being so excited for a show ever. I can't believe how badly this season fumbled. It almost feels legendary.
This was my very first pitch meeting i ever saw from you. I loved it immideatly but didnt know this was a series. Some months later, i got a second one reccomended and realized there where many. I think i binge watched every single one out then in one day and saw every video after. Thank you so much for making me laugh for years now
The GoT season 8 was my first pitch meeting! It was just what I needed at that moment of confusion and upset and I'm so glad to have found RG's content as a result of it!
I have a love/hate relationship with your 'I forgot . . .' riff. Because it's incredibly funny every time, but then I remember that an actual person who was an actual screenwriter said "Dany kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet . . ." Oh season 8.
This was my first Pitch Meeting, ever. And I remember feeling "seen" so much, it translated everything I was feeling at that moment. And then I proceeded to watch every single one of them lol
Oh man, I'm so sad I didn't catch this video when it came out. I was one of the people that got hooked on Pitch Meetings because of this episode. I was never a fan of Game of Thrones in the first place but was fascinated by fast it went from one of the most popular and beloved series to absolutely ragged on by everyone I knew. Then I watched nearly every pitch meeting previously and since and the rest is history.
My favorite thing from GOT going down in flames is that D&D rushed it so they could get started on their Star Wars thing started, but because GOT crashed and burned they got fired from their Star Wars thing
This one was so on point and just perfectly hilarious, that I am probably responsible for 1 million views alone by me watching it over and over again and recommending it to everyone who also suffered through this season eight
Season 8 makes a ton of sense when you consider the fact that D&D came into making this season planning to do their jobs poorly. They have quite literally said that they tried to make bad tv.
This was my first Pitch Meeting! Such a comprehensive and comedic summary of the fundamental summary of all of our anguish. Damn this short final season!
*Question*: Have you ever felt any burnout or fatigue around creating Pitch Meetings? You seem to have fun with them, but many also seem like they take a ton of work and I know a lot of people find this type of “repetitive” creative work very depleting after a few years. P.S. Love your work and candidness with us. Thanks for all you do man!
This is the first one I watched and didn't realise it was one of many. "Super Easy Barely An Inconvenience" fit so well. You seem to have effortlessly captured both the actual behind the scenes process and lampooned the show. Hoping you can do more of the former in future pitches
I've never watched Game of Thrones (definitely dodged a bullet with how the last season turned out), but this was the episode that introduced me to your style of videos. And I'm glad for that. You're one of the best TH-cam comedians out there.
So glad you stuck around! It sounds like I discovered Pitch Meeting right when you were maybe gonna wrap it up, but I was going through the worst breakup of all time and having 200 of your videos to watch REALLY helped 😆😆
This is the video where I fell in love with Pitch Meeting's. I was so angry after watching the eight season and then I laughed my ass off to Ryan's humor
Season 8 of GoT is actually what drew me into your channel when it came out! Edit: posted this before I got to the part of the video where you said this was probably the case lol
You'll never read this - but your work is great. So many laughs with family and friends for years now. Appreciate all the joy you bring, you're awesome. Thanks.
I like the personal take on this at the end and yea, the Pitch Meeting was definitely a turning point. It was so good I just watched it last night and rewatched it here again. They are pretty much perfectly done to portray what people are thinking into a director - publisher kind of view, like if the audience thinks something was cheaply done, they will just blatantly say they don't care. And it's usually really spot on while adding a bunch of top notch humor on top of it, I've binged a lot of them and have been laughing quite a few times over the jokes/perfect timing/editing of them. Well done and I hope that you keep going with it! Edit: Omg I want to see Ryan Reynolds so badly and I hope you 2 can come up with some hilarious breaking of the usual theme, like him as publisher talking as producer or something to just completely break how it usually is xD
10:18 I love in this bit how Ryan looks to his left whenever he mentions the screen writer and his right when he mentions the producer. Just where they would be standing if they would not both be him.
I've rarely watched movies or popular TV Shows and I've always wondered why. After watching all your "Pitch Meetings" you cured me. Now I know why. Thank you, Doctor Ryan.
Sometimes I want to go back and rewatch GoT because it's got such a great cast and out was mostly amazing... but then I remember how it ends and it hurts my soul all over again and I can't bring myself to do it. Even watching this, as hilarious as it is... still feels like salt in a wound.
I love that I can still laugh at this pitch meeting when I never watched GOT. And I love this new format with answers to viewers questions Hope Ryan Reynolds accepts the offer
What also kills me about this is the ENTIRE FANBASE would have waited patiently for a honorable ending to the show
Dumb and Dumber had to make a shitty Star Wars movie 😭 I'm still mad
I mean... they're still waiting for GRRM to release the last 2 books despite it having been over 13 years since he started on Book 6. I don't know that we'd have been THAT patient for the show, but making Seasons 7 & 8 full seasons would've gone a LONG way towards alleviating the criticism that it was a botched & rushed job (plus, you know, sequencing improvements & story improvements & making their biggest episode of the entire small-screen show visible on more than 5% of small screens)
If they had properly ended the show it would have gone a long way towards giving George more time and patience to finish the books. As things stand George will likely never finish and so the ending of the show will forever be the canon ending and I myself just cannot forgive that.
Well they did kinda fuck themselves itno a corner with Sansa, Arya, Jon, Caetlyn, Littlefinger, Basically everything Tyrion does in Essos. I mean ditching Arya's Warging? collapsing Jeyne Poole's stories onto Sansa without a lick of reasoning behind why Littlefinger woudl fuck up that badly? All the smart political masters suddenly eating lead paint chips for the off season till they're retarded.
Those two shit heads blew it. It's unlikely GRRM will finish the books, but he had the ending planned out. Even if the show couldn't adapt it 1:1, they could have took their time to have it at least make sense.
4 years later and the pain still feels fresh
I basically just commented the same thing, but you worded it so much better 😂
I fell asleep during the ending, never even bothered to re-watch it. I think falling asleep in the first 15 minutes of the last episode of a show like that says a lot.
thats why we here
The books gots me through my first year on mission in Aghanistan. Thousands of pages read and I couldn't wait for the rest. When the HBO show came out I was very apprehensive, however a battle buddy had the dvds so I gave it a chance. By season two I knew they were not going to honor the source material and abandoned ship after the second episode. Glad I did, but not at all happy with what they did to one of the greatest stories I have read. Still wondering if G.R.R. Martin can get off his ass and save his masterpiece. Him and Patrick Rothfuss....
4 years?
The “5 pairs of sunglasses” line was so accurate. I legit thought something was wrong with my tv at how dark the scenes were!
Did you try turning up the brightness?
We have watched it on our smart tv, smartphones, laptop, and tablet and never had that problem.
Sounds more like a GoT problem if someone could watch literally everything else fine but then needs to turn the brightness up for one GoT episode. Especially when every other GoT episode was fine. It's obvious that they purposefully made it dark. @@tessdurberville711
@larrylutz6825
yeah, I had to turn up brightness on my monitor which is what I almost never do
@@tessdurberville711Idk what amazing screens or eyes you have.I have my phone on full brightness and I couldn’t see anything again in this pitch meeting. Just black screens with barely visible silhouettes. So I can vaguely see what’s probably going on but no details at all.
@@tessdurberville711 Thats what the show runners said, for a tv show episode that it should be watch in high end product. Most phones and tablet have high quality oled screens. for lcd monitor or screens which most people still have it doesnt look good. When media with higher budget manage to look adequate on any screens or tv.
Never has a show fallen harder from grace
Peak reason why you should never strife to write like someone else. xD And why HUMONGOUS multiple-part series are not something to be taken lightly.
Walking dead even gave itself some redemption after "promoting" gimple.
I'm so damn glad it did, too. To me, it was pornhub dnd, as corny as it could be with random sex scenes that didn't need to exist. I'm so damn glad to hear how badly it ended because I honestly couldn't stand it. Everyone kept asking me about it like it's necessary for anyone that does play dnd to watch it, it was just so incredibly hollywooded that I just wished it would burn in a fire. Glad to see it actually did.
Never seen Arrested Development?
@@DevilWearsAdidas...that's certainly an opinion.
"The Council of Surviving Characters" is among my favorite lines from Ryan and will never grow old!! 😂
Agreed, I was ugly laugh-crying the first time I've heard it due to the sheer absurdity and sadness and anger I'd been feeling because of the last two seasons
My very favorite is, Who has a better story than Bran? Arguably any other character.
Something about the delivery kills me.
@@csorfab Ryan has reignited my anger and sadness.
The bearers of plot armor, sitting on the council of surviving characters, shall elect the "best" king.
I reckon it was George who said that....Ryan just wrote it!
Love how the Producer is like..."You can have more episodes". I feel this exact conversation happened.
It did. It's confirmed that dumb and dumber wanted to be done, but also wanted all of the credit for the whole show
Yep. Even before the final season came out, there were reports that HBO executives were asking Dumb and Dumber if they legit needed more episodes.
@@7PlayingWithFire7 Why didn't HBO just sack dumb and dumber and get a new showrunner in.
But how can you destroy one of the best shows ever made in one season?
David Benioff and D.B. Weiss saying together in harmony: "Super easy, barely an inconvenience"
It wasn't _just_ the last season. Even before they outran the books it was obvious that they didn't understand the story Martin was trying to tell, and once they had things like 'travel time' and 'distance' just stopped being things in the show, despite Westeros being the size of Europe and most everybody being unable to travel faster than a sailboat or horse.
@@boobah5643 "the story Martin was trying to tell" and which, to add insult to injury, he'll never finish. So the GoT ending will remain forever as the only ending of A Song of Ice and Fire.
@@boobah5643They kinda just stripped away all the fantasy horror aspects of the books with the exception of the White Walkers.
@@Kumagoro42 Clearly you are not familiar with fanfiction. ;-)
to be fair it had been going downhill since about season 5 or 6, but there's a big difference between the "going downhill" of 5/6/7 and the "completely falling off a cliff" of season 8.
Season 8 hurts even more because when I think about re-watching GoT I can't get the ending out of my head.
I have that feeling a lot when production companies remake, reboot, or endlessly sequel shows/ movies i used to love. It's frustrating.
Yeah it totally kills the whole show.
Why in God's name would you even think about rewatching it?
@@alandoane9168Because the rest of the seasons are still great
yeah agree. Sometimes I feel like watching it again but then remember how it ended and that it was all for nothing
"Her nephew doesn't wanna sleep with her."
Always my favorite quote from this one.
If she was my auntie I'd make an exception 😉
Never has a show gone from cultural phenomenon to completely forgettable in such a short time
Pitch Meeting is not forgotten!
Oh, GOT. Yeah, yeah i get what you mean now
don’t question consume
It's so true. I still think seasons 1-4 were phenomenal but I kind of doubt I will ever re-watch them
@@armoredchimp it feels all so pointless to invest that much time in something that the creators didn't respect the time we committed to watching it. Sad because I also think back on the glory days, but I would rather watch something that cares and has a fulfilling conclusion
Much like the cast and writers.
I heard such'n such is in the new thingy magigy.
Who?
You know, that character from GoT.
Oh... yea no.
The best thing about season 8 being so bad is the comedy gold we got from it from people bashing it
Fair!
Star Wars VIII
I felt so betrayed by season 8. It was like Lost all over again. On the plus side, it torched my taste for GOT so much that I don't even miss it, unlike my favorite space western.
r/freefolk rise up
I like how you think. The positivity of seeing the Silver Lining.
Wish my natural inclination was to do that, too.
The fact that the line about Danny forgetting about the iron fleet is word for word from what David Benioff actually said is the most halarious part of the pitch meeting for me 😂
It's really painful to watch something that's supposed to be a parody and hear him say literally the same things the actual showrunners said.
"So Dani is sitting there all sad with her starbucks"
"Did you say Starbucks?"
"Yep"
😂
It was my first pitch meeting and also the one i've watched the most. It helped me cope with the disappointment
She kind of forgot the iron fleet but they certainly haven’t forgotten her…
The stupidest thing I have ever heard…
I'm just surprised Ryan didn't work in the "Themes are for 8th grade book reports" line. Benioff, one of the showrunners, outright said that in an interview for one of the earlier seasons...
We should have known.
I just got done writing that I think the plot points in season 8 could have worked if they were fleshed out, and I think that even applies to Dany forgetting about the fleet. If they had shown her descent into madness and then the characters were in disbelief about her foolish decision making, even something as seemingly stupid as that could have been okay.
“I really want this to be over” was basically the entire vibe of the final season of Game of Thrones
I love that they thought they could foist that off on viewers and still have a whole slew of sequels and prequels that wouldn't fail.
They should have ended it with a freeze frame after Drogon causes something to blow up, and the superimposed text: "Daenerys Targaryen, age 24, gave herself up to the authorities after the incident. She is now serving a life sentence."
Note: Bran the Broken died on the way back to his home planet
That's literally what happened, the show runners wanted to work on other stuff but didnt want to hand the reigns over to someone else to they just ended it as quick as possible. HBO even offered them more episodes and seasons and they turned it down.
20 episodes would have been perfect.
The amazing thing is there were supposedly at least 50% of fans who weren't disappointed. Unless it was 49% disappointed, 51% enraged.
Right lol there's no way 50% of fans liked it
One of my smartest friends really liked it. He's extremely critical of other shows and movies for their illogical character behaviors and plot inconsistencies. I was baffled when he told me he liked the final season. Personally, I think it went downhill well before Season 8.
I liked season 8
Everything went downhill the last few seasons (let's rape Sansa again, let's gather the main characters to go get a zombie, etc was all before season 8), so for me it was more of a "meh, expected".
Yeah I don’t believe that for a minute. It’s only 30% from audience on rotten tomatoes
That GOT season 8 pitch meeting was so spot-on accurate I think it was incredibly cathartic for a lot of disappointed fans.
The beginning of my years long healing journey, yes!
Accurate!
I kind of like how the undead can break out of massive stone crypts, but the one from the previous season couldn't get out of a wood box.
Good point.
Budget cuts at Winterfell that year. Plaster of Paris was quietly used in place of a hewn stone sarcophogus.
No, cuz these were STARK undead! Highly powerful! 😅
Yeah people saying that was dumb to hide in the crypt, but as far they knew the walkers couldn’t get throw a wooden box. And the last stark dead in the crypt was ned, 8 years ago probably just his head the was body cremated i think, so should be very weak, and before ned, lyanna? Around 18 years ago? Her still have a body?
@@0cidd0logic? In my dragon show?
That "being off screen" invincibility is still hilarious
So true
We had main characters die left and right in earlier seasons, then during the main battle only Jorah, Theon, and Lyanna dies. Why didn't Brienne and Tormund die? Their story was over at that point.
Ryan put more thought into his Q&A workflow bit than Weiss & Benniof into season 8.
Sick burn ❤️🔥
True that
I mean they're called Dumb and Dumber for a reason.
GRRM spent more time on rewriting one chapter than those two did writing all of season 8.
This man really aged himself ~35 years for, like, three seconds of video. Truly a committed content creator.
No, he de-aged himself for the rest of the video. Remember he's been time traveling since the 90s.
(Now I think about it it doesn't actually matter what decade you begin time traveling because.. y'know.. time travel.. Whatever, he's old now because of time travel.)
Wait. Are you saying that's _not_ a cameo of his grandpa?
I thought that was just David Lynch?
Pretty sure that's Tim Allen as Santa.
Yeah. It’s so cool that he waited so long before starting his channel for a 3 second joke, even though he already recorded all these videos
I liked how for the GoT season 8 pitch meeting, he used actual quotes from the showrunners
This episode was how I got introduced to pitch meetings...I remember being frustrated with GOT ending so much I wanted to know what others felt about it too 😂
Yesss. Though for me it was "The Last Jedi" that brought me into the Pitch Meeting world.
And after being introduced to PM, going through the back catalogue was super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Same here! I thought the video was fantastic, and then jumped down the Pitch Meeting rabbit hole soon afterward! 😆
@@WombatMan64 Ryan's back catalogue is TIGHT.
Me too lol! So something good came out of that final season.
Seeing behind the scenes footage of Ryan not talking during the other Ryan's dialogue is TIGHT
I was such a massive fan of GoT until that last season, and when I saw your Pitch Meeting it perfectly encapsulated why I hated it. I share the Pitch Meeting to anyone who wonders why I hated the ending so much. Thank you again for your service!
So glad those clowns lost their star wars deal cause of it
Season 7 was basically just as bad. I had the fortune (or misfortune) of basically binging the whole show in a few weeks and was also somewhat familiar with the books. After they stopped being a faithful adaptation, which happened somewhere through season 4, the quality started declining. Season 6 was solid despite that but 5 and especially 7 & 8 sucked ass.
GoT is still good, and even the last couple of seasons could have been good if executed better. D&D executed it in a different way and manner of speaking.
I sent this to any and everyone. And shared it multiple time. Ryan's pitch meeting was the PERFECT response to the dreck Dumb & Dumber tried to feed us. From cultural phenomenon to forgettable trash in 6 episodes. Understanding it slid in quality after season 5 we were still willing to forgive if it finished well. What an absolute waste.
R u dumb. Anyone who is a true thrones fan, knows why. Fool
I like watching these videos of these two completely different people communicating together.
🤣🤣🤣
Watching people is Tight!
Likewise. Watching two completely diff people communicating in a video is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
@@warcanon9546 "Wait, what?"
Watching two completely different people communication together is TIGHT!!
Ryan managed to touch on every major grievance the fans had in like 5 minutes and only a few days after the shows conclusion 😂
He didn't talk about how every major military expert is a complete pants on the head retard.
"You put the siege balistas IN FRONT OF THE WALL??"
"You... charged the cavalry without flanking it... IN COMPLETE DARKNESS? That's not how you use cavalries! "
Because Hollywood directors are so bad writers, they should hire military tacticians to look for flaws.
imagine how often he watched the final season in those few days to nail down all the juiciest most disappointing material.. blregh :D
It's wild to think that the more time passes the more people will forget that so much of what producer guy is saying was actually what D&D were told. They could've had all the time and money they wanted but they turned it down because they were already thinking about their next series. It became something like karmic payback that the next series never happened.
Well said
yup and now they are basically begging people to watch their new Netflix show which ironically is also based on books it does look decent but i can't bring myself to support those morons
Who's D&D and what would its next series be, if you don't mind me asking?
@@MaxHohenstaufen The two moronic showtunners of GoT. They single-handedly ruined the entire final season because they wouldn't let anyone else write/run/make descisions except themselves, and they just wanted to end it as fast as possible.
That is why we got what we got for an ending. A rushed, half-assed mess of disjointed action sets and absolutely abysmal dialogue. When the season absolutely tanked and everyone hated it they lost the chance to direct their upcoming Star Wars project, which was the entire reason that they rushed GoT season 8 inbthe first place. So, basically, everybody lost.
Courtesy of David Benioff and Dan Weiss.
@@dissuede6949 Oh, thanks for explaining. Well, at least it looks like there was some poetic justice in the end, they denied people of a proper ending to their beloved series, but were denied what they wanted to direct as a result.
"The Council Of Surviver Characters"
is now on my favorite lines of Ryan pitch meetings list!! 😂😂😂
Yeah, I burst out laughing at that. Sometimes a line is perfect. That was one of those times.
a ryan reynolds pitch meeting collab is the most perfect thing in the universe that i never knew i wanted more than air until this moment
Canadian Ryans unite!
@@jamielondon6436need to add Ryan Gosling to complete the Canadian Ryan Triad
@@gabrielmachadobsb Indeed.
Only Ryan is capable of reigniting my GoT Season 8 anger, then soothing it in the most wholesome, funny way possible 😄 Thanks for your many hours of hard work producing the pitch meetings Ryan 👏👏👏
It’s the final stage of grief: Ryan helps us ACCEPT that this actually happened, and justifies our grief by summarizing how much of a departure and disappointment this season was from what we spent almost a decade loving.
Ahh... The video that introduced me to the Pitch Meetings skits and changed my life forever after
Same here.
Same!
Same
I pray Ryan Renolds sees this and goes on the show! That'd work perfectly
Then there would be three Ryans. Or would that be four Ryans? 🤔
I can't imagine the Ryanverse brain bending that would ensue...
Four Ryans are tight
Yes!
Miss me w that
GoT season 8 pitch meeting is what got me to pitch meeting and I’ve been hooked ever since. For me, it was the repeated joke of the producer trying to get the writer to agree to more episodes and the writer both cursing the fact that there weren’t enough episodes to tell the story, while staunching resisting attempts to add more. Brilliant :)
GOT Season 8 is one of the very few times the Internet has been completely united on ripping something popular.
I wouldn't say completely united. There was that cringy spinoff of the asoiaf subreddit who made a circlejerk community that tried really hard to pretend the final season was a masterpiece and that people were just hating on it because it was popular. Basically your standard schizophrenic hipsters
very true. I know its opinion based on whether people liked it or not, but I actually disagree. If anyone enjoyed season 8 then they clearly wern't paying attention to characters on screen
It takes a special kind of negligence to turn an entire fan base into a unity of anger and rage against something.
46m people watched the finale. Only 1.8m signed the petition to remake the final (started mainly to insult Benioff and Weiss).
@@tessdurberville711 You genuinely believe all 46m are online and sign petitions? I hate the last season, I didnt sign the petition. But look at the critics rating, the audience rating. By every single measure the finale was a failure.
Its easy to call someone just a hater, but there is near unanimous consensus that they screwed the pooch in the last season.
Damn. I never knew Ryan went through so much trouble just to pick the right questions. Hat's off to you sir!
He's incredibly dedicated to his craft
You spelled rubble wrong
@@patternofcitation3935 ohhh that's a good one
I haven’t laughed that hard at a pitch meeting in months.
I liked this video just for that
Fun fact: That was the first pitch meeting I ever saw! Saved me the time of watching the season and entertained me far better than it likely would have! And here we are years later still going strong!
If you watched the whole show you should still watch season 8. It’s ass but you can see what they were going for.. there is 2 seasons Jammed in but if done right it coulda been great
@@cameron9359 I do not want to spend the time watching something I know I will be dissapointed by. I am more than okay dropping a show if it screws itself. At least like this my last memories of watching the show were enjoyable
@InvaderCom best part is that you can rewatch the old stuff without hating it
Not everything with it is bad though, obviously it still required quite a bit of work
@@InvaderComgood idea. It’s absolute trash. Don’t let anyone convince you to watch it. I still try to watch the first seasons sometimes still but I can’t unsee that stupid ending and it hurts 😂
That pitch meeting was so spot on. The story and the characters deserved more time
Love how the producer keeps offering more screentime but the writer really really don't want any of it
This was the first experience with this sketch, and it was so absolutely amazingly accurate and on point I've never left. And after 7 seasons this was the most cathartic thing ever. Needed ALL OF IT! THANK YOU! SCREW YOU Dan & Dave!!!
Check out glidus channel he was my therapy after the show..
Imo it was the whole bring an undead and show cersei so she joins forces w us that took the show off the logical rails and it never gets back on track.
i love how in this one the producer tries his best to save the season instead of sabotaging it.
And it's just a reflection of reality, too, because HBO essentially offered Dumb and Dumber *all the money* to continue GoT for as long as they needed!
This one has a special place for me as it was the first Pitch Meeting I ever saw… it was soooooo much better than GoT season 8. I shared it with everyone I knew and have now seen every pitch meeting.
Same here! I came across this one accidentally and enjoyed it so much that I spent the next six or seven days binge watching 250+ Pitch Meetings 😅 it was super easy tho, barely an inconvenience!
The first one I saw was for Squid Games after a local radio host mentioned it being funny on air. I was instantly hooked, watched everything Ryan's ever made, and am now a forever fan. He's a comedic genius. Have you watched his First Guy series? Or the videos about how things got their names? They're wonderful
This was the first Pitch Meeting I ever saw, and the week following, I watched every single other pitch meeting that was on the channel. I'm so glad you didn't stop making them!! So many years later and they're still just as brilliant.
This was the pitch meeting that got me hooked! Just amazing on so many levels - taking actual quotes from the producers ("She forgot").
I still can't believe Ryan missed the Arya saying 'I know a killer when I see one" referring to Dany to Jon.... as she talks to him in the smoldering ruin of Kings Landing with non-combats single handily murdered by Dany the thousands.
Well, she's not wrong. ;-)
@@jamielondon6436 Ha ha indeed
She KINDA forgot.
I don't know why, but that word just makes it so much worse.
@@DrMcFly28 She remembered, then she kinda forgot, then she remembered again. Kinda.
I could (and probably) have watched this Pitch Meeting hundreds of times. Utterly gleaming. It’s like potted Glidus. Wonderful. Thank you for doing what you do Mr George
Ive unironically watched this so many times.
I will never not be mad about this lol
Glidus as in the youtuber? I am a huge fan of Glidus! He’s an awesome GOT youtuber! Def check him out!
If you want to, you can have some more time sir
"It's a very forgettable horse" 😅 Thanks for all the videos Ryan! Looking forward to many more. They're usually my first port of call after watching a movie.
Seeing the sun is overrated!
Honestly my fave Pitch Meeting ever. When Im sad, I just go watch it for a laugh.
Oh yes, how to forget one of the most passionate pitchs, you can almost taste the anger and sadness
The defeated look of Producer Guy when Writer Guy turns down the offer of more seasons again is everything!
Your Pitch Meetings are not only extremely funny, they are also great reviews. In 5 minutes you show every weak plotpoint in every movie, even movies that are considered masterpieces, Your concept seems so simple, but it is so brilliant, and as usual with content-creation it probably takes up a lot of your time, so thank you for the effort and the fun.
@10:38 Personally part of the reason I liked the GoT Season 8 pitch meeting *was the fact that it was aimed at the showrunners. It was cathartic to see even this this chaotic good venue bashing their poor decisions
Yes!!!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
And it's just 'a brief list of some of the things wrong with it'.
I never got into Game of Thrones, but I absolutely loved how everyone everywhere was talking about it. When it was airing, when it was between seasons, it was regular. It's fun seeing so many people bonding over a common thing. And then there was an explosion of how everyone hated the final season followed by no one talking about Game of Thrones. I'm still shocked by how that transition felt.
Literally hit the nail on the head with every point, as usual. Ryan's videos should be required viewing for every writer, director and producer who comes up with an idea for a film or TV series. Season 8 will forever be viewed as the most epic failure of a series in television history.
Seriously, these videos need to be in the syllabi of every film & TV studies degree!
Hi, I'm from the future. We have a Megamind TV show now.
This is the pitch meeting that introduced me to pitch meetings! I was on a bender watching every season 8 deconstruction video and I came across this and I must have watched it a dozen times over the years and it's great every time!
Lol same
I'll never forget just how excited I was when the season 8 premier was about to air. It's hard to remember me ever being so excited for a show ever. I can't believe how badly this season fumbled. It almost feels legendary.
This was the very first pitch meeting I ever watched, and to me it’s still the best one
2:59: I love how one of the goofiest lines is a verbatim quote of David Benioff.
This doesn’t need any revisitation. Holds up perfectly.
"Two of her dragons died, a couple of her friends.. Her nephew doesn't want to sleep with her" lmao😂
Never change Ryan!, Never change
This is one of my absolute favorite pitch meetings, just perfection!
This was my very first pitch meeting i ever saw from you. I loved it immideatly but didnt know this was a series. Some months later, i got a second one reccomended and realized there where many. I think i binge watched every single one out then in one day and saw every video after. Thank you so much for making me laugh for years now
The GoT season 8 was my first pitch meeting! It was just what I needed at that moment of confusion and upset and I'm so glad to have found RG's content as a result of it!
I have a love/hate relationship with your 'I forgot . . .' riff. Because it's incredibly funny every time, but then I remember that an actual person who was an actual screenwriter said "Dany kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet . . ."
Oh season 8.
More gruesome than the red wedding, lol.
"She forgot"
HOW?!?!
This was my first Pitch Meeting, ever. And I remember feeling "seen" so much, it translated everything I was feeling at that moment. And then I proceeded to watch every single one of them lol
The lengths you go to for picking the question is admirable, I mean wow that’s hard work and commitment right there. You deserve all your success.
Except that the arson thing could come back to bite him. 😂
@@my3dviews 🤣 if there isn't anymore videos from now on, we know why.
Oh man, I'm so sad I didn't catch this video when it came out. I was one of the people that got hooked on Pitch Meetings because of this episode. I was never a fan of Game of Thrones in the first place but was fascinated by fast it went from one of the most popular and beloved series to absolutely ragged on by everyone I knew. Then I watched nearly every pitch meeting previously and since and the rest is history.
I am really enjoying this new format of reviewing older Pitch Meetings; I don't think I've ever laughed as hard as I did with this one!
Hey Ryan! Thanks for the countless laughs! What's in your opinion the most underrated pitch meeting and why?
My favorite thing from GOT going down in flames is that D&D rushed it so they could get started on their Star Wars thing started, but because GOT crashed and burned they got fired from their Star Wars thing
This one was so on point and just perfectly hilarious, that I am probably responsible for 1 million views alone by me watching it over and over again and recommending it to everyone who also suffered through this season eight
I would absolutely love seeing you do a collab with Ryan Reynolds. Also on you're other channel please do a First Guy to ever get a Tattoo!
oooooo good idea!
Season 8 makes a ton of sense when you consider the fact that D&D came into making this season planning to do their jobs poorly. They have quite literally said that they tried to make bad tv.
It's still one of the funniest pitch meetings I've ever seen. Thank you for the revisit
This was my first Pitch Meeting!
Such a comprehensive and comedic summary of the fundamental summary of all of our anguish.
Damn this short final season!
This is probably one of your best ever pitch meetings Ryan, 11/10 haha.
This is the first Pitch meeting I watched and pretty much became addicted to these.
Same for me.
This was the first Pitch Meeting I ever saw! What started the whole obsession 😂
Glad it's getting a revisit
This was the first pitch meeting I ever saw, it was perfect. Accurate. Cutting without being mean.
*Question*: Have you ever felt any burnout or fatigue around creating Pitch Meetings?
You seem to have fun with them, but many also seem like they take a ton of work and I know a lot of people find this type of “repetitive” creative work very depleting after a few years.
P.S. Love your work and candidness with us. Thanks for all you do man!
This is the first one I watched and didn't realise it was one of many. "Super Easy Barely An Inconvenience" fit so well. You seem to have effortlessly captured both the actual behind the scenes process and lampooned the show. Hoping you can do more of the former in future pitches
"The Council of Surviving Characters" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I've never watched Game of Thrones (definitely dodged a bullet with how the last season turned out), but this was the episode that introduced me to your style of videos. And I'm glad for that. You're one of the best TH-cam comedians out there.
So glad you stuck around! It sounds like I discovered Pitch Meeting right when you were maybe gonna wrap it up, but I was going through the worst breakup of all time and having 200 of your videos to watch REALLY helped 😆😆
This is the video where I fell in love with Pitch Meeting's. I was so angry after watching the eight season and then I laughed my ass off to Ryan's humor
Season 8 of GoT is actually what drew me into your channel when it came out!
Edit: posted this before I got to the part of the video where you said this was probably the case lol
You'll never read this - but your work is great. So many laughs with family and friends for years now. Appreciate all the joy you bring, you're awesome. Thanks.
I read it. You wonderful internet stranger
This was the pitch meeting that introduced me to pitch meetings. Such a great nugget of joy after that depressing finale.
This was my first ever Pitch Meeting 😂🎉❤
This was also a big comfort after the horrible mess of season 8 😢
I like the personal take on this at the end and yea, the Pitch Meeting was definitely a turning point. It was so good I just watched it last night and rewatched it here again. They are pretty much perfectly done to portray what people are thinking into a director - publisher kind of view, like if the audience thinks something was cheaply done, they will just blatantly say they don't care. And it's usually really spot on while adding a bunch of top notch humor on top of it, I've binged a lot of them and have been laughing quite a few times over the jokes/perfect timing/editing of them. Well done and I hope that you keep going with it!
Edit: Omg I want to see Ryan Reynolds so badly and I hope you 2 can come up with some hilarious breaking of the usual theme, like him as publisher talking as producer or something to just completely break how it usually is xD
Literally the video that made me subscribe to Screen Rant and learn what a comedic genius Ryan is. 👏
A timely reminder of the anger most of us felt about this rushed ending. Thanks for the refresher!
This pitch meeting perfectly and succinctly summarized all the problems with season 8.
It feels like he could have taken more time to do it.
Could have been really, really great...but wasn't.
This was the episode that hooked me on pitch meetings. So much gold in this writing.
Damn fine pitch for Ryan Reynolds...packaging it into a reminder of an unpopular finale is tight.😎
I forgot how much this one raised my blood pressure.
This is still probably my #1 favorite pitch meeting. So many good jokes with no filler
This was my gateway video to pitch meetings. It was so on point for season 8. I haven’t missed any since.
10:18 I love in this bit how Ryan looks to his left whenever he mentions the screen writer and his right when he mentions the producer. Just where they would be standing if they would not both be him.
I've rarely watched movies or popular TV Shows and I've always wondered why. After watching all your "Pitch Meetings" you cured me. Now I know why. Thank you, Doctor Ryan.
Sometimes I want to go back and rewatch GoT because it's got such a great cast and out was mostly amazing... but then I remember how it ends and it hurts my soul all over again and I can't bring myself to do it.
Even watching this, as hilarious as it is... still feels like salt in a wound.
I love that I can still laugh at this pitch meeting when I never watched GOT.
And I love this new format with answers to viewers questions
Hope Ryan Reynolds accepts the offer
I think your S8 pitch meeting hit the nail on the head more than any of the other ones 🙂