Honestly I think he could’ve summed up a review for the game in around 5/6 minutes give or take. But the mans gotta make that Mula and blab for 11 whole minutes.
@@gundabalf If you don't know about "the thing" and want to play the game, then don't spoil it for yourself. But, it's something that pissed off a lot of people (myself included) and they cancelled their orders
That’s the fuckin point. We HATE Abby when we first see her, then by the end it’s Ellie we view as threatening. The story flips it on us and I’m glad both Ellie and Abby survive. I honestly am dumbfounded by how shocked Jeremy is for Joel to die early given all the fuckin people he’s killed. Plus, the entire story still revolves around Joel!
@@AlmostaFlipinSkater Yes, this is storytelling 101. We all get it. But clever plot twists do not a good game make. The players can tell when they're being told something and when the message is being pounded into their heads, which Drucky does with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer.
Because all $60+ single players should be designed to be over in 12 hours, eff that. I'm not listening to the herd mentality on this one. Don't rush the long games and maybe people will be able to enjoy and take things in at a normal pace.
They should title it TLoU (something²) just to experiment with it. And after the backlash should just release TLOU part 2 (THE REAL ONE). But what's been done has been done
The reason why it felt monotonous as Ellie is bc she's alone for a solid portion of the game in the 1st game you're almost never alone and your time is filled with ambient conversations that are quite pleasant.
omg you re so right man , the conversations even during gameplay were so memorable I even took the time to listen to all the puns ellie said during sections , this game really missed that. I m so disappointed beacuse I did kinda enjoy the game but it had so many missed opportunities it s mind blowing
Yeah there really isn't a non-memorable moment in 1 bc of the ambient convos. I'd also point out that when you play as Abby you're never alone. I think this is on purpose so you might look upon your time as Abby more favorably and It kindy worked on me just bc I was tired of the constent game loop. I think it's eother too much faith in our love for Ellie or too little faith that their message of seeing things from both sides(Which is FUCKING RICH btw considering how Drukmond has been handling this) gets through it's kind of insulting, but I can't denying that id still give the game a 8/10 I didn't mind Abby all that much bc I kind of already thought of Joel as a shitty person. No offense
I was actually bored playing with Abby BC I already knew the faith of her friends, so I didn't care. It felt like a bunch of filler I was forced to watch. Like when I have to play the Trevor parts in GTA5. It feels like doing homework when I wanna be out.
@2freeIvX Why does Frodo Baggins matter, he's literally just one character. Let's make a sequel and golf club him to death in the first 15 minutes. If you don't like it, you're a bigot.
@@7aemr I mean, have you watched Chris Stuckmann recently? He's the definition of 'bland' as far as reviewers are concerned. So hell yes, I'd rather watch somebody with a personality
@@SPACECOWBOY705 Jeremy is a reviewer, too. I neither want nor need reviewers to be comedians, my point is that it's okay to have more personality than a dead fish, and that jokes are just that: jokes. No need to get your panties in a bunch because Jeremy made a funny about something that happened a long ass time ago.
@@TheFreshSoundsFlorida It gets better, Neil Druckmann wrote himself in the game as a supervillain on one of the cards you collect. Dr. Uckmann. A Supervillain who works on controversial experiments that draw criticism from the public.
the ending: ellie meets nathan drake and together they search for the legend of the dragon balls to revive crash bandicoot to help save the world from the Apocalypse. sorry for the spoiler
Fr. It's not a horrible game, but it's genuinely not the masterpiece people were making it out to be. At best it's a 7 but even then thats being too generous
I just felt so emotionally drained by the end of this game, like I didn’t want to play it anymore. The final scenes were just hard and pathetic to watch and I kept on questioning why it any of this STILL going on... which I guess is what one would actually feel if they went through the whole revenge plot for so long. Sigh. I just felt empty. And I spent the whole day with a grimace on my face.
Nochu I kinda felt the same! I enjoyed the game but afterwards, last night I was drained., and exhausted and didn’t care so much anymore about the whole revenge thing at the end. I felt the way ELLIE AND ABBY LOOKED LOL. But I hope there will be a 3!!!!
@@TiffanyRainn I've not played the game, but from watching all of the reactions to it, it seems that, that was the intention of the game. To be as gritty and brutal about what revenge is really like, and that seems to me as to why the fan base is so divided, but thats an outsider looking in.
@@th3_tea412 There's literally no point in playing this game, other than them forcing you to learn why the circle of violence happens. After Joel dies there's no point in playing the game any further.
I think that the game was like a good story, and the fact that Joel died was awful, but I think that as you play as Abby, you start to understand that she’s not a bad person. She just wanted revenge for her dad just like Ellie. Like it’s obviously super awful that Joel’s dead, but you kind start to get compassion for Abby when you see her living her normal life. I mean, to her Joel was just this crazy man that killed her family and stopped a vaccine from being created. At the end of the game, I found myself not wanting Abby to die. But I think the finger thing was really unnecessary because Ellie lost the last thing that Joel gave her.
Except this is just not John Wick, which is a simply entertaining action movie, which depicts action very well undoubtedly. But the John Wick movies are not Blade Runner 2049. Just like the Last of Us is not Gears of War...
littlemar22: Well, after having seen the ending, I can tell you that for me, it definitely isn‘t... everyone else killed by Ellie didn‘t really give her a choice, maybe rightly so. After all, they are human beings in an apocalypse world. Abby at the end just didn‘t want to fight anymore. And Ellie‘s memory of Joel, when she wants to try to forgive him, makes her realize that she has to try to forgive her. Killing her, would just cause another circle of revenge and violence (Lev). I mean, come on. It‘s not like Abby is one simple and purely evil villain like everyone John Wick kills...
Bruh...its like they're called the AVENGERS imagine they didn't AVENGE anyone. Like what? How tf did Ellie forgive whoever did that?! She killed so many people till that point but to the person who did what she did? 'Oh no you can go its cool I forgive you' fuck off man what kind of bs is that?!
@JustChizzin simple batman didn't kill people from the start of his career while ellie killed a lot of people and then suddenlly she feels like "oh shit my bad you can go now" in the finale, its just the Batman v Superman all over again with that martha bs.
Tbh at first I'd be like "NO SPOILERS I WANT TO PLAY IT FIRST!" but then if they told me anyway I wouldn't even be mad... I'd be soo happy that they saved me 80 bucks...
Jeremy, I've gotta say - you should do game reviews more often. This is by far the most entertaining and informative spoiler-free review I've watched for this game. Keep it up!
"I just want to kill monsters and get to the end of the story" It's okay, I believe there's a cliff somewhere near the start of Abby's story, you can start here.
The pathetic thing is Ellie doesn't even forgive her. She just quits. Just sits there sobbing and quits. There's no emotional catharsis of forgiveness, revenge, hope, accomplishment. Just, sit there after committing small genocide and quit.
*sigh* EXCEPT that Raiden didn't kill Armstrong's father/mother and (in Armstrong's eyes at the very least) doomed humanity to a vaccine-less hell. I AGREE that the story was presented terribly and could have been a LOT better but people it is not correct to make this kind of comparison. Because while I loved Joel and would have rather he lived, he had it coming. Maybe not that bad of a way to go but, it was coming for him.
I do remember seeing one. Playing it through a second time and a black cat runs across the street while you’re walking in a particular section. Spoiler... I guess?
@@SumDumGy I didn't, I actively chose not to spoil the game for myself, my friend insisted I look at the leaks but I'm glad I choose not to listen to him but listen to myself. I ain't the only one btw who had this experience.
@@amirlecter8318 I congratulate you then. I was never going to get or play the game yet I seemed to know just about every detail about it by the time it released, even without seeking any details because I didn’t care about it at all.
The point you touched on with the lessons not being anything new and just not hitting really resonates with me. I feel like the sacrifices they made to the storyline were just not worth the overall message you are left with, so you finish the game feeling utterly unsatisfied and just as frustrated.
@@dlastkatipunero2185 look, it's impossible to have any real gripes about this game. This poster just doesn't get how much of a masterpiece this game is. She doesn't possess the mental faculties to decode the greatness of this game.. or at least that's what all the defenders of this game receiving perfect scores keep saying. We just aren't brilliant enough to appreciate the intricacies of such a master storyteller like Druckman.
Not really. I'm following this because it's the bigger writing related shitstorm since Mass Effect 3. Wanted to see how things have changed... back then we only were called entitled and the like. Look now what people that dislike the game are called.
depends, avideogamedunkey gave a positive review and of course the likes dislikes ratio are fine. And angryjoe has negative thoughts about the game..and the likes are overwhelmingly there
@hasslfoot I had not realized people hated Tomb Raider, Horizon ZD, Mirror's Edge, Beyond Good and Evil, Bloodstained, Alien Isolation (or the first 2 Alien movies for that matter), half the Resident Evil cast, ... can be giving examples all day. They hate seeing characters they loved destroyed because someone had much more ego than talent. I've seen this kind of plot well executed. The characters involved still got plenty of bashing (and reading people call for the painful death of a preteen is more disturbing than anything I've seen wished upon Abby), the writing however didn't.
I swear this guy gives some of the best, unbiased and relatable videogame reviews. Idk how but it's like he says the exact things I would say in a review😂
The way Abby was similar to Ellie’s story felt way to similar that it took me out of it because I just didn’t see that being realistic and it felt forced. I think you have to believe that part to get the message and it wasn’t successful IMO and was paced awfully.
Yes, I found myself groaning wanting to get through Abby’s part. Her character is fine and could be a decent character in a different context, but by the time we play as her, it’s deep into the game and she’s seen as being pretty irredeemable. If the game is trying to make her a good person, it doesn’t work because she’s still an awful person in many ways. If you don’t buy Abby’s story and feel her story is impactful, then the whole game pretty much falls flat.
@@Qthetar Ah yes, if my options are Gravel soaked in Feces and gravel soaked in oil, id prefer to just not eat. Ellies gameplay was G a r b a g e, no interaction, nobody to have banter with and a generally monotonous process of progression. Doesnt mean that ButchClub27 the most 'likeable' character ever is much bloody better.
@@Qthetar And people still don't like her, its almost as if forcing things doesn't work. This is meant to be a video game not a moral lecture, good stories aren't lectures.
I don’t think there was anything they could have done to make me come close to caring about Abby Edit: for the record, i understand Abby’s motivation. It makes sense. It’s a good villain backstory. I just lost interest when they tried to make her the protagonist and Joel the villain. Again, i get what they were going for. I think they just forgot that we had a whole game to fall in love with Joel and next to no time with abby before she ripped that away. I just wanted her to die and being able to play as her didn’t change that 😂
And it sucks because she's a great character with a good motive and great character arc. Too bad she was introduced in the worst possible way and the player is told to hunt her down for half of the game and then we are expected to suddenly not despise her. She should've gotten her own game with Lev, who was also a great character, or have Joel's death later in the story so we feel more empathetic to Abby's quest for revenge.
Yeah how about Abby trying to help 2 kids not die while her friends who didn't kill Joel were being killed one by one by the psychopath Ellie and her group?
This game honestly might be dubbed "The Last Jedi" of video games in due course of time. Critics are mostly loving it, while gamers are split down the line on it. I guess we'll see what its legacy is. Personally, I quite liked the game, but that's just my take on it. I actually totally understand why people are not fans of it. It makes a decision within the first hour that'll define the rest of your experience.
I think the game really would benefit if the campaigns were split into two campaigns so that if you were done with he game after ellie's you could stop there but if you wanted more you could continue playing. Other than that tho I'm in love
Finally someone actually acknowledge that one of the main problem of this game is that they choose to go with the whole "how far are you willing to go with vengeance?" and stuff like that which has been explored and used so much already. The first game plot was far more original, a father/daughter relationship but with the twist that they are not related in any way and even dislike each other at first but the world they live in and the fact that they've both lost everything force them to get closer and establish a bond. Tlou Part 2 is not an horrible game for sure, but for me it will always remain a huge missed opportunity.
I get what you're saying. But isn't the whole surrogate father plot-line used in Last of Us 1 pretty unoriginal too. The story in the first game was good because it was told well with a great cast of characters and a fairly ambiguous ending, but thematically it was nothing new. I mean there is a character who is immune, how many times have we seen that before? Again, it's the way the story was told. I would not say its any more or less original than the sequel. Just my two pence.
Harry Davies exactly. People are acting like the first game was somehow groundbreaking in it’s story telling. All the themes explored in the first games have been done to death in movies and tv shows.
There’s nothing original about a father daughter type of bond in a post apocalyptic world. TLOU is inspired by Cormac McCarthy’s book/movie The Road. The plot twist of the first game has nothing to do with them being unrelated. It’s established that Ellie is not Joel’s daughter early on. Joel sees his daughter in Ellie. He doesn’t want to lose her like he lost his daughter.
@@harrydavies7114 I didn't say the first game plot was never been used anywhere, I just said it was far more original than the second game plot, and that's a fact. Part 2 does deliver its many messages in a pretty good way IMO (in the end Ellie biggest fear from the first game becomes reality, she ended up completely alone just for pursuing vengeance), the point is people have already heard that story so many time (in Arthur Morgan words "revenge is a fool's game"). Also I'm 100% fine with killing Joel and that it's Abby doing it but at least write that in a more decent way come on... Joel in Tlou 1: Oh he ain't even hurt (stomp on the gas pedal). Joel in Tlou 2: A room full of armed strangers "YoU GuYs LOOk LiKe YOu'Ve hEArd AboUt uS Or soMeThing".
Joel in TLOU: he doesn't say his name to anyone and kills any stranger he talks to. Joel in TLOU2: hello fellas my name is Joel and this is my brother Tommy and we live nearby. My social security number is 1234
They honestly should have just made this a spin off with abby so we get to know her story and play through that then at the end she encounters joel and that sets up last of us 3????
I'm not sure there'd be enough story from Ellie's side of it to make it 2 games. Sure Abby's side was filled with enough material to warrant it's own game, I'd agree there, but then again who is gonna want to play as a brand new character we don't know anything about? I guess what they could have done, to address playing as a new character, is maybe not call it 'The Last of Us'. Name it something completely different, admit it's in the same universe, make it so it mostly plays out having nothing really to do with Joel, and then have that twist at the end where we find out who Abby really is and how she connects to Joel...? Idk. Not sure I'd want to slog through 2 whole games to see it through to the end. I honestly struggled in the second half of this game, it felt like it was never gonna end.
Fast and furious is shit bro. It's for entertainment purposes only, no heart no logic. Just because a certain Vin Diesel says "We're family", it doesn't feel like that. Last of us has that feel. Because they show their relation, every characters vulnerability. Just because a certain Ludacris or Tyrese Gibson makes a couple of jokes doesn't ensure an emotional touch. And last of us is an example why certain stories aren't liable to you to give an emotional sendoff for a character. A person you care for can die horrendously. Deal with it. Because the only thing that matters ahead are your memories of them.
Tom Moriarty Hey Tom I’m glad you liked the game, I really am. Even though I personally didn’t like it, I am not going to demean anyone who did. Having said that however, I do think Joel’s send off could have been better. I get that nobody in this world is safe, but I just don’t buy that Joel and Tommy would give out their names and where they’re from to a group of armed strangers when they both know that a lot of people want them dead. The Joel in the first game would never do that. I feel like they dumbed Joel Down just so they could kill him off. And the F&F movies are just dumb fun, yes. However when it came time to do a send off for Paul Walker, they nailed it.
@Dattatreya Madgula every content creator on youtube has talked about the game in its entirety, spoilers and all. The only reason he isn’t mentioning them is bc he wants to make two separate videos. A spoiler free and a spoiler version.
He's making it work better than my hair has been. I got too much of my mom's Latin side in me. My hair's too thick to keep in place with hair product without caking that shit down. I'd like to get a haircut, but I still don't trust public places like that.
It's really not spoiler heavy, in my opinion a consumer should know he spends half the game playing as a fucking abomination, instead of the Ellie and Joel marketing
In my opinion, this is one of the few works of media where I think keeping the thing a secret is a mistake. I think it’s a much more enjoyable work when you understand the structure and the point. There aren’t any “twists” in the story. Just things that you don’t know are going to happen, like the character shift/ that’s not a good surprise, it’s an annoying and confusing structural shift. People are like “is this a flashback? Is this five minutes? Ten minutes? What is this?
*Sigh* but the puppy didn't kill Lozel's father/mother did it? It doesn't make it sit right, but i can't agree with people who say this, because you're not the first i've seen and it's not a fair comparison.
@@itsdantaylor the ending would've been fine if things were executed better. but on top of that the game has poor pacing both in story and in game. , the game isnt as bad as peopel think. but peopel saying this is a masterpiece? or better than the first? i fail to see that lol
Jeremy's review is spot on. I agree 100% with everything he said, even at the end where he mentioned the worst thing about the game, and in my head I said having to kill the dogs after you kill the handler.
@@jacksonwells2902 And Negan has more justification of doing what he did. Rick and the group think so high and mighty of themselves that they literally deserved everything that was coming to them due to their actions.
@@Get_BODIED I hope whatever they had planned for part 3 hasn't been changed because of the backlash... also SPOILERS..... I'm thinking abby knowing about ellies immunity may have a part to play, maybe she eventually finds the fireflies and they have a new doctor who can make the cure. Who knows? But I dont see them leaving the series as it is
@@Get_BODIED lol except Joel and Ellie were the story of part 1. Game doesn't have to be called that and boy look at the ratings of TWD after Rick and Carl left lol. People cared about and loved Joel. Not Abby. Well guess we'll see how part 3 goes depending on sales.
@@kreedynsmith2013 I am not. "If you go into the accessibility settings menu and then navigate to Alternative Controls, you'll see an option called Auto Pick-Up. Auto Pickup is your friend. Turning this on will make Ellie / Abby pick up all this junk as you pass by it"
@Stephan Salvatore Would've loved if Joel somehow had a section like the sniper fight with Tommy. Show off what post apocalyptic old man arthur morgan can do when he's crossed
Joe Madel I’m js 😂 Joel already a sniper section like Abby. And I’m glad they brought it back too. The moment I got to that part, it instantly clicked in my head before they even revealed, that it was Tommy. And it felt OH SO good that I was right. It just made too much sense.
That’s because most people are jumping on the bandwagon to hate this game. Just because the story isn’t as great as people hoped, it doesn’t make it a bad game. It’s one of the best games ever made.
@@LegendaryManSlayer93 hah no, it isn't. It's okay. Great lighting but everything else was kind.. meh. Unforgettable? Sure, but so is Birdemic. The characters are flat, they killed off the only decent character who had actual growth and went "here are two PCs who are really fucking boring and repetitive, have fun!"
Laura Kinney I agree with you! I went in with an open mind and knew about a few spoilers. I ended up drained by the end but enjoyed the ride all the way! Definitely in my top 5 games! So glad I gave it a chance. People hate it so much cause a certain character (won’t mention in case someone reading still doesn’t know) dies..ok I hated that part too but I understand it more. And ok so games may not always tell the story we want., this one didn’t but I sure end up liking the story and gameplay so much..when I just knew I would hate it a week ago!
@@TiffanyRainn for the last of us 2 to end up in my top 5 games... i probably wouldve to play only four games before tlou 2...kinda meh for top 5 game considering there are only very few games with tlou 2 format but I guess people have their own tastes
So let me get this straight.. and I only do this because you're putting this particular aspect into a real life setting... A dog is trying to rip your throat out and you're going to feel bad for saving your own life.. Come on man...
I know, right? It's not like the dogs follow your scent just to let their handlers know your position and leave it at that. Once they detect you, they inmediatly charge against you. They are out for blood. Your blood! I mean, it's not like you are putting down a harmless puppy.
@@leovenegas4785 yup and I thought playing Ellie and killing all those people and dogs was one of the only fun parts. If she was killing them if they weren’t even after her I’d hate her but since she was simply just walking along to find Abby when they got in the way and tried to kill her it was seen more as self-defense
Great job. This review perfectly sums up how many must have felt. Critiques the game as it should be without toxicity and praises it without going overboard
@@taylorruddick111 I did too. I don't see what's really the problem with the story. Every major thing that happened here, connects from the first game from flashbacks. It makes me question what kind of story they were expecting
@@Keyblademster a story that was presented in the trailer. The one where ellie goes for a mission and joel happens to appear in the end in order to finish said mission.
Personally if you understood the story and pay attention it makes sense. Joel doomed all of humanity and made a selfish choice just because he didn’t want to loose practically his 2nd child it was bound to bite him in the ass eventually, especially with Ellie wanting to die she just wanted her life to matter and Joel took that from her it’s very tragic and it strained their relationship extremely hard. I knew the sequel was meant to be darker but it’s just a tragedy which it made me react I think the plot was a solid idea but it needed better pacing.
desolation well all the flashbacks and shit were put in terrible spots, maybe if Abbys flashback of her dad dying happened before she played Top Gold on Joel’s head, everyone wouldn’t have hated her off the bat
He's describing the game perfectly. This game is so up and down. The game is far less cohesive as the first and very long winded at times. It's bad that it took this long for a sequel to come up with this.
difference between people who like the game and people who hate it, is that the ones who hate it focus their energy to hate it, but the one that like it focus their energy toward disdaining people who hate it. look at tlou2 subreddit. it's full of people complaining about how bad the game is; and people who complain about people who complain about how bad the game is.
To be fair. One good thing came out of this game, just about everyone finding out that "professional" reviewers like IGN, are most of the time bullshit
I think it's so great that people who really loved the game can't understand why someone would hate it and the people who hated the game can't understand someone who loved it People are so comprehensive....
Imagine if John Wick saw them torturing his dog, then killed everyone but the f&kker who did it. And in the meantime he spent hours trying to find gas.
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Jeremy: Please no spoilers guys
Comments: hold my golf club
Were the leaks true?
Richard Lehane yup
Haha I get it! You’re talking about when Joel gets his head smashed in by a golf club by Abby? Is that what you’re joke was about?? Lol I’m not sure.
Richard Lehane some of it was out of context, but yes a majority of it was true
😂😂😂
I really appreciate Jeremy's effort to not talk about the "thing" lmao. He clearly wants to. Welp see you all in Friday i guess.
Honestly I think he could’ve summed up a review for the game in around 5/6 minutes give or take. But the mans gotta make that Mula and blab for 11 whole minutes.
what thing?
Naota Kun bronif you don’t know stop reading comments trust me
@@gundabalf If you don't know about "the thing" and want to play the game, then don't spoil it for yourself. But, it's something that pissed off a lot of people (myself included) and they cancelled their orders
What’s the thing Idc for spoilers
"Abby's kinda starting out on the wrong foot with you."
I see what you did there.
Yeah he really hit the Joel on the head
Er-- I mean nail!
Okay guys, don’t beat this joke to death
@@CardyBoy hahahaha all the jokes are painful to read. Not criticizing though. Wish you all the best. Break a leg
@@CardyBoy *joel
Cardy Boy HAHAHAHA omg 😭
"Abby's kinda starting off on the wrong foot with you."
That there is the understatement of the century XD
I wonder what the understatement of the last centuary was.
@@eldhand "Hey, guys. The World War One kinda sucks, amirite?"
@@battleframestudios8989 "I'm starting to think this hitler guy isn't all that great"
That’s the fuckin point. We HATE Abby when we first see her, then by the end it’s Ellie we view as threatening. The story flips it on us and I’m glad both Ellie and Abby survive. I honestly am dumbfounded by how shocked Jeremy is for Joel to die early given all the fuckin people he’s killed. Plus, the entire story still revolves around Joel!
@@AlmostaFlipinSkater Yes, this is storytelling 101. We all get it. But clever plot twists do not a good game make. The players can tell when they're being told something and when the message is being pounded into their heads, which Drucky does with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer.
This review is one of the few instances where Jeremy is actively hold back his punches to not spoil.
"Sorry, we have to go the long way around." The whole game in a sentence
Yeh, the short way is always blocked.
Because all $60+ single players should be designed to be over in 12 hours, eff that. I'm not listening to the herd mentality on this one. Don't rush the long games and maybe people will be able to enjoy and take things in at a normal pace.
@@vincevirtua im playing skyrim for the first time right now. Its really fun with a good story and side quest.
@@superoriginalname5110 didnt think about GoW, great game.
Jeremy has a single white hair on his beard, its started
Yup, and it's so distracting for some reason.
There are 2...watch carefully.
Looks cool
You do know his hair is dyed. So it's probably not the only one.
Now I can't unsee it
“I feel like I’m playing The Last of Us 3” What I thought exactly.
They should title it TLoU (something²) just to experiment with it. And after the backlash should just release TLOU part 2 (THE REAL ONE). But what's been done has been done
Joel: *_”Years of Academy training, WASTED!”_*
lol
Um, no offence, but the actual quote is; "Years of academy training, wasted!"
Neil Druckmann: “Give me money”
Fans: “You’ll get you’re money till you fix this damn plot!”
Rent!!
Has the door been fixed yet, Mr. Ditkovich?
The reason why it felt monotonous as Ellie is bc she's alone for a solid portion of the game in the 1st game you're almost never alone and your time is filled with ambient conversations that are quite pleasant.
omg you re so right man , the conversations even during gameplay were so memorable I even took the time to listen to all the puns ellie said during sections , this game really missed that. I m so disappointed beacuse I did kinda enjoy the game but it had so many missed opportunities it s mind blowing
Yeah there really isn't a non-memorable moment in 1 bc of the ambient convos. I'd also point out that when you play as Abby you're never alone. I think this is on purpose so you might look upon your time as Abby more favorably and It kindy worked on me just bc I was tired of the constent game loop. I think it's eother too much faith in our love for Ellie or too little faith that their message of seeing things from both sides(Which is FUCKING RICH btw considering how Drukmond has been handling this) gets through it's kind of insulting, but I can't denying that id still give the game a 8/10 I didn't mind Abby all that much bc I kind of already thought of Joel as a shitty person. No offense
Yes exactly instead you don't play with Ellie for the best parts of the game and then you have Abbey and her high school drama.
they kinda make player feel bored playing ellie than abby.
I was actually bored playing with Abby BC I already knew the faith of her friends, so I didn't care. It felt like a bunch of filler I was forced to watch. Like when I have to play the Trevor parts in GTA5. It feels like doing homework when I wanna be out.
I wonder why he doesn’t talk about Joel much in this review...
Takes away from people that will day he only judged it based off Joel
Maybe he's saving it for the spoiler review..
@2freeIvX Why does Frodo Baggins matter, he's literally just one character. Let's make a sequel and golf club him to death in the first 15 minutes. If you don't like it, you're a bigot.
@@AnnaMarianne Golf didn't exist in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, genius.
@@hedgehoundable Elder Scrolls? Can't tell if you're serious
Take a look at Chernbyl, that was 30 something years ago and the area is completely overgrown with trees and other vegetation.
Radiation
these r big fooken trees bro. BIG! more like atleast 50+ years it seems like hah
The last of us 2 is like 2036
@mujexzilla
34 years down
..And..
..........19,966 more years to go..........
🙄😒
look at my garden if im not at home for a year
I can literally feel him trying so hard not to talk about it 😂
its honestly so annoying when he mentions body count and then the ending... just no comment
GGGooo G Nobody asked what annoys you
LOVE how Dunky and Jeremy both pointed out the missing Cheesecake Factory.
I don’t know how you can write a review and not bring up this glaring omission
i rated the game lower for that.
True.
Donkey’s review is one of his worst ones. I think he made it on purpose.
Vitaliy Red “dunkey’s review is one of the worst ones because I don’t agree with him”. That’s how you sound right now.
Like the “white loner” whisker dangling in his cheek.
He literally got OLDER with this review...
Dedalus44 Fr (I didn’t want to say anything!)
I thought I was the only one who noticed, it was *EXTREMELY* distracting by no fault of his own.
Was he saying anything? I was distracted by it.
@@dgas5904 Nooo! No plucking. It will have friends soon enough. Beards look so great when they're a little salt and pepper.
The RESTRAINT of this man. If I was Jeremy I would have made the video 10 seconds and just said “this is the literal definition of DOGSHIT”.
"Coming out swinging like Tiger Woods wife." Ludacris
a joel in one
@Tamer Ciftci So you like bland, nearly humorless reviews? To each their own I suppose
@@7aemr I mean, have you watched Chris Stuckmann recently? He's the definition of 'bland' as far as reviewers are concerned. So hell yes, I'd rather watch somebody with a personality
@@chuckleshelicopterwigwamjo6305 chris is a reviewer... Not a comedian
@@SPACECOWBOY705 Jeremy is a reviewer, too. I neither want nor need reviewers to be comedians, my point is that it's okay to have more personality than a dead fish, and that jokes are just that: jokes. No need to get your panties in a bunch because Jeremy made a funny about something that happened a long ass time ago.
"There was a sequel, wasn't as good" -Joel Miller
I bet the devs wished they removed that quote now. Lol Joel was spot on.
@@TheFreshSoundsFlorida It gets better, Neil Druckmann wrote himself in the game as a supervillain on one of the cards you collect. Dr. Uckmann. A Supervillain who works on controversial experiments that draw criticism from the public.
@@drakenfist wait so he knew that he was gonna get bad rep? He ruined the game just to experiment?
@@Dxntoo That's his excuse, yeah. I think he probably figured more people would like it, though.
Except in gameplay, content, story, graphics obviously, enemy variation, better AI. The only real thing the original does better is characterization.
I can just imagine the response if Naughty Dogg announces that the sequel will be solely focused on Abby
Honestly Abby's not a bad character, just a victim of a poor introduction.
@@JH0207 Yeah. Tbh I dislike Dina more lol.
@@jizzledoops6789 why?
@@gamblorrr Just don't like her personality. Kind of bland. Also wish we got more of her pre-relationship with Ellie.
@@jizzledoops6789 fairo
the ending: ellie meets nathan drake and together they search for the legend of the dragon balls to revive crash bandicoot to help save the world from the Apocalypse. sorry for the spoiler
Aww man
I lost my shit when I saw that ending man. It was so cool.
10/10 with a badass seal of approval
finally a honest and genuine review, that wasnt met with biased hatred or fanboyism.
Fr. It's not a horrible game, but it's genuinely not the masterpiece people were making it out to be. At best it's a 7 but even then thats being too generous
I just felt so emotionally drained by the end of this game, like I didn’t want to play it anymore. The final scenes were just hard and pathetic to watch and I kept on questioning why it any of this STILL going on... which I guess is what one would actually feel if they went through the whole revenge plot for so long. Sigh. I just felt empty. And I spent the whole day with a grimace on my face.
Nochu I kinda felt the same! I enjoyed the game but afterwards, last night I was drained., and exhausted and didn’t care so much anymore about the whole revenge thing at the end. I felt the way ELLIE AND ABBY LOOKED LOL. But I hope there will be a 3!!!!
@@TiffanyRainn I've not played the game, but from watching all of the reactions to it, it seems that, that was the intention of the game. To be as gritty and brutal about what revenge is really like, and that seems to me as to why the fan base is so divided, but thats an outsider looking in.
@@TiffanyRainntoo funny
@@th3_tea412 There's literally no point in playing this game, other than them forcing you to learn why the circle of violence happens. After Joel dies there's no point in playing the game any further.
I think that the game was like a good story, and the fact that Joel died was awful, but I think that as you play as Abby, you start to understand that she’s not a bad person. She just wanted revenge for her dad just like Ellie. Like it’s obviously super awful that Joel’s dead, but you kind start to get compassion for Abby when you see her living her normal life. I mean, to her Joel was just this crazy man that killed her family and stopped a vaccine from being created. At the end of the game, I found myself not wanting Abby to die. But I think the finger thing was really unnecessary because Ellie lost the last thing that Joel gave her.
Alternate title: Keanu Reeves' stunt double reviewing The Last of Us II
Rather than calling the stunt double he should be called the hero
Joel Miller, not Keanu Reeves
@@qwerty_and_azerty iGame was calling Jeremy the stunt double....
Tyler Williams I know. I’m saying Jeremy looks like Joel more than Keanu
I think he looks like Keanu Reeves and they guy from friends
Ellie's story it's going from point A to point BBY...
I see what u did there.
Andrés Felipe Palma Vargas I still call it BBY over whatever new shit they came up with
Before Battle of Yavin?
Wow, amazing.
Thats smart
Imagine watching John Wick kill everyone but the guy who killed his dog.
Perfectly explained!
Except this is just not John Wick, which is a simply entertaining action movie, which depicts action very well undoubtedly. But the John Wick movies are not Blade Runner 2049. Just like the Last of Us is not Gears of War...
@@cineastik8220 the point is killing everyone expect the person responsible is BIG DUMB MY GUY.
littlemar22: Well, after having seen the ending, I can tell you that for me, it definitely isn‘t... everyone else killed by Ellie didn‘t really give her a choice, maybe rightly so. After all, they are human beings in an apocalypse world. Abby at the end just didn‘t want to fight anymore. And Ellie‘s memory of Joel, when she wants to try to forgive him, makes her realize that she has to try to forgive her. Killing her, would just cause another circle of revenge and violence (Lev).
I mean, come on. It‘s not like Abby is one simple and purely evil villain like everyone John Wick kills...
That’s not that point of the game don’t chat shit until you’ve played it
This was a very balanced review that sums up how many persons feel.
As someone who loved this game he did a great job explaining why it disappointed a lot of people
@@scottklein9340 agreed
People*
Facts!
@@QuestionKnife "persons" is also correct, booboo cheeks
The ending is like after Avengers: infinity war when Thanos erases everyone. Then in ENDGAME the Avengers learned to forgive Thanos.
Bruh...its like they're called the AVENGERS imagine they didn't AVENGE anyone. Like what? How tf did Ellie forgive whoever did that?! She killed so many people till that point but to the person who did what she did? 'Oh no you can go its cool I forgive you' fuck off man what kind of bs is that?!
Hey guys could you please shush?
Noah Shanahan-Jewett nah
But Thanos is a good character doe
@JustChizzin simple batman didn't kill people from the start of his career while ellie killed a lot of people and then suddenlly she feels like "oh shit my bad you can go now" in the finale, its just the Batman v Superman all over again with that martha bs.
J: ‘I’m not going to spoil anything’. Also J * drops spoiler after 1 minute
“Abby did a very bad thing”
Say it. Just SAY IT
She killed joel 😭😭😭😭
Tbh at first I'd be like "NO SPOILERS I WANT TO PLAY IT FIRST!" but then if they told me anyway I wouldn't even be mad... I'd be soo happy that they saved me 80 bucks...
Where was Joel's flamethrower when he was being dragged along the floor. Shotgun blast to the leg? Nothing a medkit cant handle.
@@danielchristopher583 Don't be, it's a damn good game.
@@lucifermorningstar583 well yes but actually no, there is something more horrendous thing after
This game makes me physically ill, and that's coming from someone who absolutely adored the first game.
Samezies
Well you are not meant to eat it, put the disk in the PlayStation and play..jeez
@@Anacronian he didn't eat the game, the game ate him..I mean his soul.
@@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 couldnt have said it any better😂
The sex scene gets everyone, no shame in it...
I love that Jeremy has Joel’s beard for this review.
He could cosplay Joel if he wanted to.
Well he does instantly so
reading that, i now can't stop looking at that one long white hair lol
Yeah I just noticed that too. Hope he doesn't playing golf.
Really? I think he could cosplay a killer Tommy
Yup
Jeremy, I've gotta say - you should do game reviews more often. This is by far the most entertaining and informative spoiler-free review I've watched for this game. Keep it up!
It's hard to play a game that wants to break your heart and put it back together with scraps and garbage
And expect you to play through it
"Well, better than nothin"
Tony Stark did it in a cave!
Capn Geech "Well, we're sorry. They're not Tony Stark"
I think if you are feeling those feelings, the game is succeeded at what it was supposed to do
"I felt like I was playing the last of us 3" is the perfect response...
I just wish abby's arms were bigger the game would have been better
And made her green
Yeah she was kinda dainty
Lengthen those bad boys so she can run on her knuckles. Give her a protruding forehead and thicker eyebrows with an under bite. 10/10 would recommend.
Lmao!!!!!
Quote: ''Abby did a bad bad thing''
- Abby put pineapple on her pizza!
That's unforgivable compared to the actual bad bad thing she did.
I put pineapple on my pizza........
@@FurrythighsMe too brett. Its ok. All these people are the problem not us.
Brett Moore glad im not the only one
@@Furrythighs THEN YOU ARE LOST!!!
"I just want to kill monsters and get to the end of the story"
It's okay, I believe there's a cliff somewhere near the start of Abby's story, you can start here.
The ending is basically if Raiden from Metal Gear Revengeance, killed all of Armstrong's soldiers, but forgave Armstrong during the final fight.
Youuuuuu
The pathetic thing is Ellie doesn't even forgive her. She just quits. Just sits there sobbing and quits. There's no emotional catharsis of forgiveness, revenge, hope, accomplishment. Just, sit there after committing small genocide and quit.
*sigh*
EXCEPT that Raiden didn't kill Armstrong's father/mother and (in Armstrong's eyes at the very least) doomed humanity to a vaccine-less hell. I AGREE that the story was presented terribly and could have been a LOT better but people it is not correct to make this kind of comparison. Because while I loved Joel and would have rather he lived, he had it coming. Maybe not that bad of a way to go but, it was coming for him.
Except Armstrong is a cartoonishly bad villain and Abby isn’t even the “villain” per se
ARES!!!
I will let you go
Listening him talking about dogs me me realize something: there should be cats walking around the map. Maybe even feral ones.
I do remember seeing one. Playing it through a second time and a black cat runs across the street while you’re walking in a particular section. Spoiler... I guess?
The cats saw the games story and jumped into the ocean, never to be seen again.
There are some actually :)
There are some cats but like not NEARLY enough to be realistic lol feral cats grow so fast cause a mother could have up to TWELVE kittens omg lol
The game pretty much omits many kinds of Animals that would roam the streets but I cannot really fault it for that. Oto mich effort required
It's so strange to see a spoiler-free review at this point.
Seems unnecessary to me. I can’t imagine anyone not knowing the details of this by the time it released.
@@SumDumGy I didn't, I actively chose not to spoil the game for myself, my friend insisted I look at the leaks but I'm glad I choose not to listen to him but listen to myself. I ain't the only one btw who had this experience.
@@amirlecter8318 I congratulate you then. I was never going to get or play the game yet I seemed to know just about every detail about it by the time it released, even without seeking any details because I didn’t care about it at all.
Jeremy: Uh yeah, Joel and Ellie, winning duo right there...
Me: *knows exactly where this is going 10 seconds in*
Anyone else focused on Jeremy's one white hair in his beard during the review?
Thanks. Now I can't unsee it.
bruh it is hurting me
I was focused on it like the mole from Austin Powers
Omg i thought its just me who saw it
we should name it... saruman the white beard hair.
"My disappointment is immeasurable... and my day is ruined."
The point you touched on with the lessons not being anything new and just not hitting really resonates with me. I feel like the sacrifices they made to the storyline were just not worth the overall message you are left with, so you finish the game feeling utterly unsatisfied and just as frustrated.
I hope the game directors wisens up to know that there are sensible criticisms like this... :)
@@dlastkatipunero2185 look, it's impossible to have any real gripes about this game. This poster just doesn't get how much of a masterpiece this game is. She doesn't possess the mental faculties to decode the greatness of this game.. or at least that's what all the defenders of this game receiving perfect scores keep saying. We just aren't brilliant enough to appreciate the intricacies of such a master storyteller like Druckman.
@@danielvandusen5724 theres a fine line between thinking your smart and being smart and Druckmann crossed it
@@danielvandusen5724 Masterpiece my ass it's a cliche revenge plot feels like Neil just copied Spider-Man 3s arcs and lessons
@@aidanaidan8662 Why do people think Neil's smart? The guy thinks Anita Sarwhatever is a great woman.
Negan brutally kills Glenn few years back:
Naughty Dog: Let's do that!
This has been in production for 7 years, I know it was a joke, just saying
Let's ignore what makes Negan a lovable asshole.
@@lwc2349 yes but a few months back they said they were changing a few things in the game.
Yeah but Glenn wasn't the main protagonist in that TV show where as Joel was
The thing is Negan is so cool that no one can stay mad at him.
The reviews and reactions to this game are more fun than the game.
This is false
that's a low bar tho. xP
You’re crazy. Some of the best environmental storytelling/exploration and gameplay of all time.
I've never played the game, I don't b own a Playstation, but I agree with you.
Not really. I'm following this because it's the bigger writing related shitstorm since Mass Effect 3. Wanted to see how things have changed... back then we only were called entitled and the like. Look now what people that dislike the game are called.
At this point you can immediately know a reviewer’s thoughts by the like/dislike ratio.
depends, avideogamedunkey gave a positive review and of course the likes dislikes ratio are fine. And angryjoe has negative thoughts about the game..and the likes are overwhelmingly there
Exactly. As soon as I saw more likes and less dislikes, I knew that Jeremy didn’t like the game.
@hasslfoot you dont have to hate women to not enjoy the game.
hasslfoot not liking Abby means you hate women now lol
@hasslfoot I had not realized people hated Tomb Raider, Horizon ZD, Mirror's Edge, Beyond Good and Evil, Bloodstained, Alien Isolation (or the first 2 Alien movies for that matter), half the Resident Evil cast, ... can be giving examples all day.
They hate seeing characters they loved destroyed because someone had much more ego than talent. I've seen this kind of plot well executed. The characters involved still got plenty of bashing (and reading people call for the painful death of a preteen is more disturbing than anything I've seen wished upon Abby), the writing however didn't.
I swear this guy gives some of the best, unbiased and relatable videogame reviews. Idk how but it's like he says the exact things I would say in a review😂
This feels like watching a circus where nobody mentions the big ass elephant in the center of the theater.
It is very hard to review a story driven game without spoilers. He landed it, I guess
Credit to him, he did the best he could.
"Abby did a bad bad thing" IS LIGHTLY PUTTING IT
Massive understatement.
Putting...he...hehe...
Sorry
@@RimshotKiller no no it's ok
RimshotKiller You absolute monster xD
@@RimshotKiller ahah golf jokes
Neil Druckman - You can play the entire game without killing any Dogs.
Players - So that was a lie.
Well they were naughty dogs
👏👏👏👏 Stanley good job
when i realised that ellie killed alice i wanted to die lol
"Play"
The way Abby was similar to Ellie’s story felt way to similar that it took me out of it because I just didn’t see that being realistic and it felt forced. I think you have to believe that part to get the message and it wasn’t successful IMO and was paced awfully.
Yes, I found myself groaning wanting to get through Abby’s part. Her character is fine and could be a decent character in a different context, but by the time we play as her, it’s deep into the game and she’s seen as being pretty irredeemable. If the game is trying to make her a good person, it doesn’t work because she’s still an awful person in many ways. If you don’t buy Abby’s story and feel her story is impactful, then the whole game pretty much falls flat.
My God Jeremy’s hair and beard is looking more and more like Joel’s. Too soon
Dang my first 1K likes in under an hour, thanks guys
Lol I was thinking the same thing 😂
I can't take my eye off that one grey hair...
@Chris J.P. Black you know which one I'm talking about.
what do you mean to soon? =O What are you saying??
Oh. Oh no...
i love playing as abby .. i let her fall from cliff 100 times
But it is actually a fact that she’s more fun to play than Ellie, she has more badass scenes and badass gameplay sections.
@@Qthetar Ah yes, if my options are Gravel soaked in Feces and gravel soaked in oil, id prefer to just not eat. Ellies gameplay was G a r b a g e, no interaction, nobody to have banter with and a generally monotonous process of progression. Doesnt mean that ButchClub27 the most 'likeable' character ever is much bloody better.
@@Qthetar Ellie rocks. Lol
@@Qthetar probably because ND made it like that so the players would enjoy and like abby more than ellie as a manipulation tactic
@@Qthetar And people still don't like her, its almost as if forcing things doesn't work. This is meant to be a video game not a moral lecture, good stories aren't lectures.
I don’t think there was anything they could have done to make me come close to caring about Abby
Edit: for the record, i understand Abby’s motivation. It makes sense. It’s a good villain backstory. I just lost interest when they tried to make her the protagonist and Joel the villain. Again, i get what they were going for. I think they just forgot that we had a whole game to fall in love with Joel and next to no time with abby before she ripped that away. I just wanted her to die and being able to play as her didn’t change that 😂
I wouldn't anyways cause of her ugly ass character design.
And it sucks because she's a great character with a good motive and great character arc. Too bad she was introduced in the worst possible way and the player is told to hunt her down for half of the game and then we are expected to suddenly not despise her. She should've gotten her own game with Lev, who was also a great character, or have Joel's death later in the story so we feel more empathetic to Abby's quest for revenge.
Yeah how about Abby trying to help 2 kids not die while her friends who didn't kill Joel were being killed one by one by the psychopath Ellie and her group?
@@flamingdogpapi LOL ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT NEED TO STOP DEFENDING THIS BAD WRITING
hated that woman she was a complete monster
"No spoilers here!"
10 seconds later
"You play as Abby."
I know! Fucking hell, Jeremy needs to learn what the word “spoiler” means!!
Yeah that was definitely a wrong move
you literally find that out in the first 20 minutes of the game lmao
Eve C Not the brief Abby section at the start of the game, but the replaying day 1-3 as her.
Eve C maybe finish the game lol
Man this sounds just like your "The Last Jedi" review.
This game honestly might be dubbed "The Last Jedi" of video games in due course of time. Critics are mostly loving it, while gamers are split down the line on it. I guess we'll see what its legacy is. Personally, I quite liked the game, but that's just my take on it. I actually totally understand why people are not fans of it. It makes a decision within the first hour that'll define the rest of your experience.
funny thing is druckmann loves the last jedi
@@japz321 well shit that explains a lot.
This is the last jedi of us man
Steven Kent
jeremy was decently alright with TLJ, it had good ideas and also did those ideas ok.
this is a different beast entirely...
Ellie in TLOU1: After everything we’ve been through...what I’ve been through. It can’t be for nothing.
Abby: 🏌🏼♀️
At least we finally got the answer to the biggest question: who took the dogs out?
Moray Rhoda
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?.
Who?
It doesn't matter, cause john wick killed them and sent them to hell!
at the end it was us all this time
Wofh
Wofh
Wofh wofh
Aw too soon lol
“I’m glad they implemented a mechanic that Metal Gear 2 had in 1990.” That made laugh harder than it should have.
2001 not 1990
@@luvr1351 Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake was 1990 on the MSX2. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty was 2001.
Honestly
Abby apparently doesn’t know that multiple people can be named Joel
Joel... Murphy!!!
She knew Joel had a brother named Tommy. And they both introduced themselves.
Lmao the criticisms of the plot are absolutely preposterous
@@Austin-tv1ye this plot is preposterous
Taeshik Kim it’s Miller
Can’t wait to play as Joel again.Hes my favorite character in this franchise.😉
Who's going to tell him?
@@lukepizza8117 you first
Eh heh heh 😞
Pretty sure he's sarcastic bois haha
This is guy woke up from a coma today, he doesn't know......hahahaha
I really need the spoiler talk for this.
I third that
i fourth. can we get a fifth? fifth going once... going twice?
i fifth that
Sixth it. Sigh.
seventh
I hate that they made Abby's storyline more interesting and they made Ellie's mostly a go from A to B and kill some people on the way.
Thats what he said
That's the point lmao
Both stories were interesting in my opinion.
THE DARK LORD I agree. I was compelled the whole time, I do think that the first half of Seattle Day 1 drags a bit
It was pretty emotional tho so it made up for it
“It’s not just long, it’s long winded.” Yup.
I think the game really would benefit if the campaigns were split into two campaigns so that if you were done with he game after ellie's you could stop there but if you wanted more you could continue playing. Other than that tho I'm in love
Oh god....it's not that snooty, smelling your own farts, "God, what I must say is of biblical proportions" kind of a long-winded finale, is it?
I enjoyed every minute of it. Mad what approaching a game with an open mind can do
@@Dave_ja_vu sony dog.
Luke Warm
Shocking how someone could enjoy this brutal game that drags on for hours
Finally someone actually acknowledge that one of the main problem of this game is that they choose to go with the whole "how far are you willing to go with vengeance?" and stuff like that which has been explored and used so much already. The first game plot was far more original, a father/daughter relationship but with the twist that they are not related in any way and even dislike each other at first but the world they live in and the fact that they've both lost everything force them to get closer and establish a bond. Tlou Part 2 is not an horrible game for sure, but for me it will always remain a huge missed opportunity.
I get what you're saying. But isn't the whole surrogate father plot-line used in Last of Us 1 pretty unoriginal too. The story in the first game was good because it was told well with a great cast of characters and a fairly ambiguous ending, but thematically it was nothing new. I mean there is a character who is immune, how many times have we seen that before? Again, it's the way the story was told. I would not say its any more or less original than the sequel. Just my two pence.
Harry Davies exactly. People are acting like the first game was somehow groundbreaking in it’s story telling. All the themes explored in the first games have been done to death in movies and tv shows.
The game basically has a childrens book morale...
There’s nothing original about a father daughter type of bond in a post apocalyptic world. TLOU is inspired by Cormac McCarthy’s book/movie The Road. The plot twist of the first game has nothing to do with them being unrelated. It’s established that Ellie is not Joel’s daughter early on. Joel sees his daughter in Ellie. He doesn’t want to lose her like he lost his daughter.
@@harrydavies7114 I didn't say the first game plot was never been used anywhere, I just said it was far more original than the second game plot, and that's a fact. Part 2 does deliver its many messages in a pretty good way IMO (in the end Ellie biggest fear from the first game becomes reality, she ended up completely alone just for pursuing vengeance), the point is people have already heard that story so many time (in Arthur Morgan words "revenge is a fool's game"). Also I'm 100% fine with killing Joel and that it's Abby doing it but at least write that in a more decent way come on...
Joel in Tlou 1: Oh he ain't even hurt (stomp on the gas pedal).
Joel in Tlou 2: A room full of armed strangers "YoU GuYs LOOk LiKe YOu'Ve hEArd AboUt uS Or soMeThing".
Joel in TLOU: he doesn't say his name to anyone and kills any stranger he talks to.
Joel in TLOU2: hello fellas my name is Joel and this is my brother Tommy and we live nearby. My social security number is 1234
Copy and pasted
Let's walk in this room and let them surround us as well
It didn’t matter. Before they got to the WOLF’s house Tommy already said Joel’s name. Joel was doomed the moment he went inside the house
Doesnt make it any less true lmao
I can tell the people who didn't play this game by comments like this
This game had metal gear solid 3 ending syndrome where I kept thinking it was gonna end and nope.... heres a bunch more
They honestly should have just made this a spin off with abby so we get to know her story and play through that then at the end she encounters joel and that sets up last of us 3????
Damn that would have been better. They should have made Joel's death better though.
As someone who enjoyed the story, this would’ve been a cool choice. It wouldn’t sell well though
Yeah, we don't do logic in 2020..
Yeah, that plot sounds like a 100% better than the one we got it.
I'm not sure there'd be enough story from Ellie's side of it to make it 2 games. Sure Abby's side was filled with enough material to warrant it's own game, I'd agree there, but then again who is gonna want to play as a brand new character we don't know anything about? I guess what they could have done, to address playing as a new character, is maybe not call it 'The Last of Us'. Name it something completely different, admit it's in the same universe, make it so it mostly plays out having nothing really to do with Joel, and then have that twist at the end where we find out who Abby really is and how she connects to Joel...? Idk. Not sure I'd want to slog through 2 whole games to see it through to the end. I honestly struggled in the second half of this game, it felt like it was never gonna end.
Jeremy: the worst part was killing the dogs
Me: *looks under the video and sees the “what does it feel like to be a dog” ad
😐
@@nathancombs5224 that is not true, u have to spam square and kill alice or alice will kill you
@@nathancombs5224 R.I.P Alice
@@tarn2992 🙏
@@nathancombs5224 Liar
@@nathancombs5224 Pretty big exception though
We all can tell how nervous Jeremy is when he talks about Abby
Yeah, because gamers will be pissed if he says anything too positive
And why's that?
@@GhostyChives because the game is 10/10 metacritic recommended. 🤣🤣🤣
Because it's a spoiler-free review
@@lukerose4166 both sides will be pissed. Both extremes are just as annoying as each other
It’s sad when a Fast and Furious movie does a better character send off than a Last Of Us game
Fast and furious is shit bro. It's for entertainment purposes only, no heart no logic. Just because a certain Vin Diesel says "We're family", it doesn't feel like that. Last of us has that feel. Because they show their relation, every characters vulnerability. Just because a certain Ludacris or Tyrese Gibson makes a couple of jokes doesn't ensure an emotional touch. And last of us is an example why certain stories aren't liable to you to give an emotional sendoff for a character. A person you care for can die horrendously. Deal with it. Because the only thing that matters ahead are your memories of them.
Tom Moriarty Hey Tom I’m glad you liked the game, I really am. Even though I personally didn’t like it, I am not going to demean anyone who did. Having said that however, I do think Joel’s send off could have been better. I get that nobody in this world is safe, but I just don’t buy that Joel and Tommy would give out their names and where they’re from to a group of armed strangers when they both know that a lot of people want them dead. The Joel in the first game would never do that. I feel like they dumbed Joel Down just so they could kill him off. And the F&F movies are just dumb fun, yes. However when it came time to do a send off for Paul Walker, they nailed it.
@@thomasm3100 respect your opinion bro
It's sad how the game is forcing Jeremy not to talk about Joel at all.
How are they forcing him? 🤣
@@morghankimes1692 Spoiler territory 😁
@Dattatreya Madgula every content creator on youtube has talked about the game in its entirety, spoilers and all. The only reason he isn’t mentioning them is bc he wants to make two separate videos. A spoiler free and a spoiler version.
@@morghankimes1692 yeah, thats what he said
@@morghankimes1692 That's been Jeremy's way for doing reviews. Non Spoiler review and a Spoiler one. I think there's nothing wrong with that.
Jeremy's Girlfriend: How much hairproduct are you going to use?
Jeremy: Yes.
Couldhave been: All of it
He better not shave. He looks too epic.
He has a girlfriend?
He's making it work better than my hair has been. I got too much of my mom's Latin side in me. My hair's too thick to keep in place with hair product without caking that shit down. I'd like to get a haircut, but I still don't trust public places like that.
Jeremy's Girlfriend looks at Jeremy's hair: What did it cost?
Jeremy: Everything.
This is the most spoiler-heavy "spoiler-free" review I've ever seen
James Wheeler IKR wtf😂
SunOnShine all lives matter
It's really not spoiler heavy, in my opinion a consumer should know he spends half the game playing as a fucking abomination, instead of the Ellie and Joel marketing
In my opinion, this is one of the few works of media where I think keeping the thing a secret is a mistake. I think it’s a much more enjoyable work when you understand the structure and the point. There aren’t any “twists” in the story. Just things that you don’t know are going to happen, like the character shift/ that’s not a good surprise, it’s an annoying and confusing structural shift. People are like “is this a flashback? Is this five minutes? Ten minutes? What is this?
Judge Dredd Sure
1:49 "I'm glad (Naughty Dog) implemented a game mechanic that Metal Gear Solid had in 1990." 😂😂😂
Jeremy Jahns you funny man.
*Metal Gear 2. Hate when people act like metal gear solid is the only damn thing that exists for Metal Gear
Can you imagine if John Wick ended with him not shooting Iozef?
Yeah, me neither.
I hope u are kidding
*Sigh* but the puppy didn't kill Lozel's father/mother did it? It doesn't make it sit right, but i can't agree with people who say this, because you're not the first i've seen and it's not a fair comparison.
Perfect example. Beautiful.
Wow spoilers dude.
@@itsdantaylor the ending would've been fine if things were executed better. but on top of that the game has poor pacing both in story and in game. , the game isnt as bad as peopel think. but peopel saying this is a masterpiece? or better than the first? i fail to see that lol
SPOILER ALERT
“Her body count is business”
*Doesn’t kill the girl who killed Joel
Not the one that really counts 🤦♂️😥
You gotta look a bit deeper than that. The last flashback truly shows why she did what she did.
Its a video game, u need henchmen to kill. U play games before?
@@jackathy I agree
@@MajinRose17 That really doesn't excuse Mel, Owen, and Ace.
"They made a sequel, wasn't that good" Joel Miller. 2020.
What movie was he talking about there? I forgot
TheFlickinCritic I think Jurassic Park 2 not sure tho
idk ya it is lmao
@@gjd4809 I feel like I remember that "sequel" line preceding the talk about Jurassic Park in the museum
Not really its more like
“They made a sequel, wasn’t that good” Joel miller 2033
Jeremy's review is spot on. I agree 100% with everything he said, even at the end where he mentioned the worst thing about the game, and in my head I said having to kill the dogs after you kill the handler.
I beat the game without killing any dogs
@@saxtastic impossible. There's a quick time event to kill a dog and if you don't do it you can't progress
Jeremy “Abby did a bad bad thing”
Me: why did I hear Negan from the Walking Dead
Abby doesn’t have even a quarter of the charisma or character of Negan.
@@jacksonwells2902 And Negan has more justification of doing what he did. Rick and the group think so high and mighty of themselves that they literally deserved everything that was coming to them due to their actions.
@@memecliparchives2254 And Joel didn't?
@@memecliparchives2254: that's one of the dumbest explanations ever....
Super J-star no because the circumstances leading up to his death were stupid.
Should have given players a choice with that ending...
I thought for sure they would have something like that, like a good or bad ending deal
Now that I can agree with.
Media Punchlines Part 3 LUL
@@Get_BODIED I hope whatever they had planned for part 3 hasn't been changed because of the backlash... also SPOILERS..... I'm thinking abby knowing about ellies immunity may have a part to play, maybe she eventually finds the fireflies and they have a new doctor who can make the cure. Who knows? But I dont see them leaving the series as it is
@@Get_BODIED lol except Joel and Ellie were the story of part 1. Game doesn't have to be called that and boy look at the ratings of TWD after Rick and Carl left lol. People cared about and loved Joel. Not Abby. Well guess we'll see how part 3 goes depending on sales.
This game put a single white hair on Jeremy’s face. Stars wars didn’t help either
I found it less tedious to material hunt once I discovered the menu option to automatically pick up everything within reach.
Your joking
@@kreedynsmith2013 I am not.
"If you go into the accessibility settings menu and then navigate to Alternative Controls, you'll see an option called Auto Pick-Up. Auto Pickup is your friend. Turning this on will make Ellie / Abby pick up all this junk as you pass by it"
@@sicwill23 well I already beat the game though
Oh lord, I've been waiting for _this_ review.
Me fucking too man. Finally
Me too. This is the review I've been wanting
ME TO MAN
I’m predicting that he’s gonna hate the story.
Same here man I was like “ooohhh boooyy here we go”
Well at least we discovered that Tommy is near impossible to kill lol
@Stephan Salvatore Would've loved if Joel somehow had a section like the sniper fight with Tommy. Show off what post apocalyptic old man arthur morgan can do when he's crossed
Joe Madel
Well he did in the first game if that’s anything 😂
Lol...... Tommy's resemblance to Chuck Norris is no mere coincidence
@@AsianEyes007 if it's anything? Bro that's everything to me lmao
Joe Madel
I’m js 😂 Joel already a sniper section like Abby. And I’m glad they brought it back too. The moment I got to that part, it instantly clicked in my head before they even revealed, that it was Tommy. And it felt OH SO good that I was right. It just made too much sense.
This game got a perfect score while rehydrated gets a 5. Let that sink in.
Who?
@@mouseno4 bruh
@@mouseno4 Spongebob Squarepants - Battle for Bikini Bottom Rehydrated
Imagine thinking rehydrated is a better game. People here are delusional.
Fart Tony the only delusional person here is YOU
"The catalyst that starts you out on her quest."
*Gets Mass Effect 3 ending starchild PTSD flashbacks.*
Can't stop staring at the gap in Jeremy's moustache
Wth happened!? Get a black marker and fill it in!!
Is that a style or natural?
Ikr, just realised mine does that too, fuck 😂😂
Damm you for making me notice it
You looking at the gap while I am bothered by the singular silver strand of hair under his left cheek 😂😂😂
More reasonable review than most of the stuff I hear about this game. "It had good parts but it was kinda meh and not as good as the original".
That’s because most people are jumping on the bandwagon to hate this game. Just because the story isn’t as great as people hoped, it doesn’t make it a bad game. It’s one of the best games ever made.
@@LegendaryManSlayer93 hah no, it isn't. It's okay. Great lighting but everything else was kind.. meh. Unforgettable? Sure, but so is Birdemic. The characters are flat, they killed off the only decent character who had actual growth and went "here are two PCs who are really fucking boring and repetitive, have fun!"
Laura Kinney I agree with you! I went in with an open mind and knew about a few spoilers. I ended up drained by the end but enjoyed the ride all the way! Definitely in my top 5 games! So glad I gave it a chance. People hate it so much cause a certain character (won’t mention in case someone reading still doesn’t know) dies..ok I hated that part too but I understand it more. And ok so games may not always tell the story we want., this one didn’t but I sure end up liking the story and gameplay so much..when I just knew I would hate it a week ago!
Tiffany Heart Same
@@TiffanyRainn for the last of us 2 to end up in my top 5 games... i probably wouldve to play only four games before tlou 2...kinda meh for top 5 game considering there are only very few games with tlou 2 format but I guess people have their own tastes
I lol’d so hard when he said “welcome to CHAZ!!!”
Yeah people took over a neibeoir hood but I watched a video made by Isaac butterfield and they renamed it chop
Ironically Chaz may have even more murder
@Teemo Kardell and the homeless still there food
So let me get this straight.. and I only do this because you're putting this particular aspect into a real life setting... A dog is trying to rip your throat out and you're going to feel bad for saving your own life.. Come on man...
I know, right? It's not like the dogs follow your scent just to let their handlers know your position and leave it at that. Once they detect you, they inmediatly charge against you. They are out for blood. Your blood! I mean, it's not like you are putting down a harmless puppy.
@@leovenegas4785 yup and I thought playing Ellie and killing all those people and dogs was one of the only fun parts. If she was killing them if they weren’t even after her I’d hate her but since she was simply just walking along to find Abby when they got in the way and tried to kill her it was seen more as self-defense
Jeremy reviewing a game within the week it came out? This is unheard of
He's supposed to wait 8 months!
Contents are pretty dried up lately
wants to get on the negative bandwagon before people stop caring
b h q Or maybe there’s just not much to say about the game after everything that’s happened or has been said.
Marvel vs Capcom: [Please select a character]
Jeremy: "Let's go bub"
Imagine playing as Joe chill after he killed The Waynes
Technically Joel is Joe Chill in your metaphor because he did kill her father creating his own antagonist.
Technically Joe Chill is an evil guy that killed the Wayne’s for nothing, while Abby killed Joel because he killed her father, so there is a reason.
@@Qthetar I thought Joe Chill was hired to kill the Waynes.
Does anyone care about the Waynes though?
deathsdoor07 no Joe Chill happened to be a random thug.
Great job. This review perfectly sums up how many must have felt. Critiques the game as it should be without toxicity and praises it without going overboard
You can see in Jeremy's eyes he did not like this game story at all. Um spoilers we'll have it. Good vídeo
man.
I can’t believe people think this is a good story 🤦🏼♂️
Yeah he doesn't like it. The story is absolutely ridiculous and boring gameplay and characters will do that to you.
@@ryanmckenna7900 well people can have their own opinions, and just to piss you off, i liked the game
@@taylorruddick111 I did too. I don't see what's really the problem with the story. Every major thing that happened here, connects from the first game from flashbacks. It makes me question what kind of story they were expecting
@@Keyblademster a story that was presented in the trailer.
The one where ellie goes for a mission and joel happens to appear in the end in order to finish said mission.
Jeremy is trying REALLY hard to be fair here....
And not an ounce of fairness is deserved.
I respect the professionalism.
Tried so hard he got a white hair.
Personally if you understood the story and pay attention it makes sense. Joel doomed all of humanity and made a selfish choice just because he didn’t want to loose practically his 2nd child it was bound to bite him in the ass eventually, especially with Ellie wanting to die she just wanted her life to matter and Joel took that from her it’s very tragic and it strained their relationship extremely hard. I knew the sequel was meant to be darker but it’s just a tragedy which it made me react I think the plot was a solid idea but it needed better pacing.
desolation well all the flashbacks and shit were put in terrible spots, maybe if Abbys flashback of her dad dying happened before she played Top Gold on Joel’s head, everyone wouldn’t have hated her off the bat
He's describing the game perfectly. This game is so up and down. The game is far less cohesive as the first and very long winded at times. It's bad that it took this long for a sequel to come up with this.
Exactly. Well said
difference between people who like the game and people who hate it, is that the ones who hate it focus their energy to hate it, but the one that like it focus their energy toward disdaining people who hate it. look at tlou2 subreddit. it's full of people complaining about how bad the game is; and people who complain about people who complain about how bad the game is.
It's a technological marvel sure, but for the its story, the main aspect of Naughty Dog's specialty is shit, that's just unacceptable.
"The Last of Us Part II, the sequel to The Last of Us."
10/10 - IGN
IGN is just kissing the ass of naughty dogs because if they gave a bad review the sales would have gone down.
It has a little something for everyone
@@frazza5503 meaning there is literally a minute of gameplay that isn't complete dogshit
To be fair. One good thing came out of this game, just about everyone finding out that "professional" reviewers like IGN, are most of the time bullshit
I think it's so great that people who really loved the game can't understand why someone would hate it and the people who hated the game can't understand someone who loved it
People are so comprehensive....
Since Jeremy is on his way to looking like Keanu Reeves, imagine if John Wick forgave Alfie Allen
Imagine John Wick woke up in the first movie, car stolen, puppy killed and he just "ahhh fuck it, revenge bad". Credits rolls.
I thought he was Neil Cockman
Imagine if John Wick saw them torturing his dog, then killed everyone but the f&kker who did it. And in the meantime he spent hours trying to find gas.
Who?
I just liked your comment cos your name is jim Pickens with the sims icon. Lots of respect