Panasonic ub9000 | The OPPO Killer ?? You Decide
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Sold my Oppo 203 after buying the Panasonic ub820. Much better HDR tone mapping and optimizer for a projector setup. Better upconversion of blurays to 4K and better bigger more dynamic soundstage. PANASONIC all day over Oppo and I was an Oppo fanboy from 83 to 203
I think its funny how the oppo owners cant believe that another UHD player could ever come out and outperform it. Its unreasonable. Technology replaces itself almost every 1.5 years. The rule of microchips is every 1.5 years the same sized microchip can perform 2x the original. So it stands to reason something that was designed years ago with older components will be superseded by new tech. I think the oppo is a great player, but it may be replaced in terms of performance in another year.
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude I am like you. I just want the best performance from my theater. Whichever brand is giving the best price to performance ratio is usually going to find a place in my theater. For a long time that was Oppo but not anymore. Oppo fanboys are BLIND AND DEAF . Panasonic is the new king of UHD players. Sold my 203 for $1k, $450 more than I paid new. So I am glad for the Oppo fanboys LOL.
Oppo will play any file you can throw at it, Panasonic not.
@@Stingers64 The only issue is though you will be playing that file with a slightly worse picture quality
I don't understand the point of having all this insane and indecently expensive gear and then having a projector which produces a totally washed out picture, no contrast, crappy colors ? a 65" OLED tv is light years better.
Obviously, you have not seen a properly set up 4K projector with a 130"+ screen in a dark room. do yourself a favor before posting ignorant comments and inform yourself by actually having the experience. you will place your 65" OLED in the bedroom when you do.
Sheldon Spock i have a 1080p epson 6030 ub with dedicated 100 inch screen draggonfly with velvet 3.5inch board in a full black theater room, and i think it is better than 4k oled in term of image and color, color gradient and image smoothness.. important is there is no screen door effect, no reflection from a glass screen, no reflection on the side with the velvet. the size make it incredible picture very detailed. Also the front screen is very clean in a high end dedicated room with just the speaker and professional screen. Also the projector is full 3d thx certified ISF so the 3d is impressive especially on extra large screen. You add a top sound system dolby digital, dts as i have and it is better than the cinema cineplex. Yes there is more resolution in oled, but there is a better cinema like image on my projector that none of the oled tv can reproduce. They look not realistics, too plastics on oled tv, my projector is more cinema like, more realistics and more cinema. And the black are very good with a dynamic iris. Nothing beat it. I would never go to oled also because it is not the same as projection and there is burn in issues. You have to see one high end installation before to say otherwise.
do you have any idea how a 100''+ oled tv cost lol
TV"s are for commentaries and special features as far as I'm concerned, as well as series and docs. The colors even on an LED TV are brighter and nice to look at, but nothing beats watching it on a screen three times that size and the way the creators envisioned people watching it. You still get a crisp picture and accurate colors on a projector too by the way.
A 65 OLED is tiny and PATHETIC...grownups have real home theatre setups, not just something that resembles a computer screen! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣
Great review!!! I’m still an OPPO fan!!! They were always ahead of the game!!! It’s just unfortunate that they decided to go a different route with the company!!! You have an excellent channel!!! ☮️🖖🏽
Thanks buddy! I think they thought there is more money in cellphones.
bold strategy cotton, lets see if it works out for them
I know this video is 4 years old…. But I just bought this Panasonic. I am VP of Sales and Marketing in the HDMI/Cable industry (23 years). I know the guy who designed your fiber HDMI. I have had dinner with him and his boss several times. I have never in my life heard anyone make the claim that fiber HDMI has a better picture than copper. The HDMI chipset has data correction, and can actually restore millions of errors per second. We have tested this many times. So even if one was better than the other, the chipset is designed to correct both signals so you get a pure digital signal. HDMI uses data packets and checksums to repair bad packets just like a data network.
Thanks, agreed. I also own the UB9000 (bought a 2nd one as backup now that BD players are eventually going to be hard to find).
HDMI is digital (and has error correction) as you noted. It only carries DATA, unlike analog cables which transmit / carry the actual signal. With analog cables, different quality cable design and components definitely can make a big difference, unlike HDMI so long as it is rated for the right speed / HDMI standard for your video resolution (e.g. HDMI 2.1 4K @120Hz or 8K@60Hz).
The only legitimate reason that some HDMI cables should cost more than others is in cases where 1) they support (and are ideally certified for) faster speeds (for 4K or 8K e.g.) and 2) when they support longer cable runs (lengths), or both.
In short, as far as I am aware, so long as your specific HDMI cable is rated for the appropriate speed (to reliably support your video resolution) and supports your run (lengths over n feet can be more challenging) without dropouts / artifacts / issues with displaying your content at the selected resolution, then the actual PQ with that cable should be the same as any other HDMI cable regardless of price.
Just buy a decent 48Gbps / HDMI 2.1 or 2.1b (ideally certified) HDMI cable and that should be all you need for 8K video and spending more is frankly a waste (no improvement in PQ).
That said, unlike the old days (before 4K and 8K etc.,) where the very cheapest HDMI cables often worked fine, for higher resolutions, such as 8K, you will now need a 48Gbps-capable cable; however there are great deals on 8K / 48Gbps cables which have been flawless on my OLED TV with my UB9000 and they were on sale for a ridiculously good price.
cool man. Have you tried both yourself?
The 9000 player is the best one I ever owned it's amazing good picture quality and sound keep the good work up you're doing an excellent job❤❤
The UB9000 is defiantly the best player I've ever owned, amazing!
It was a huge upgrade from what Im used to. Sad I couldnt keep it. Gotta pony up and buy one if I want one
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Haha, yeah...It's not the cheapest player around, it's up there thats 4 sure :)
Thank you so much for making this. This was literally the exact thing that I was looking for. I liked and subscribed.
On a side note- I’m also glad you brought up the difference between cables. I’m relatively new to home Theater stuff but I always thought that the more expensive cable options were just a scam.
I think the Panasonic looks better more often.
I enjoyed the difference in Thanos when he was lasso'd by Dr. Strange. The ropes were super sharp on the Pano. The rocks in the Saturn like planet from Avengers. So nice! Wonder if this thing can stream video well with codecs and such from a video player. Ill have to look that up before I jump in.
I’m more than happy with my UB820.The picture and audio quality is a definite step above my Sony Ubpx800. The HDR implementation is just superb.
HDR optimizer is the main reason got the ub9000. The picture is amazing and its customization. The 820 is half price but it lacks the optimizer feature and a few others. I didnt want to believe the hype on the 9000, but after seeing it I am really amazed. Im going to buy one for sure when I get the new projector.
That Home Theater Dude the 820 also has the HDR optimizer, and it is great.
@@Lou14th whaaaaaaaaaaa. Dang. after all my research i missed that? Well hell yeah. save the cash then.
That Home Theater Dude For sure man, I couldn’t justify spending 500 more for the 9000. Plus Best Buy had it in stock!
Well, there you have it.
Great Review & differences!
Still dosent WOW me to get rid of my Oppo 203, as long as Oppo service is around I believe they will stick to their word by continuing firmware updates if needed when other brands are still trying to make a better player then the 203 or even the 205...
Dude what the fuck? Why the fuck would you even THINK of replacing Oppo 203? Even though ub9000 is tiny bit better in motion clarity it's not meant to be replaced if you already have a beast blu ray.
Ub9000 is meant for us people who just started building out our home theaters or for the people who are doing upgrades (like from 1080p bluray or maybe dvd). I wouldn't replace that Oppo 203 for at least 5 more years. It plays DV content wonderfully and at reference quality as well as HDR10. What more do you want? You will get better difference if you buy new TV then with current TV/projector and the ub9000.
Think. :D
PS: don't get me started how fucked i am now because i don't know if any of these high end blu rays will handshake properly with my XF90 and get the dolby vision... Or i am tied to sony x700 (not that i'm bitching because that player even though is cheap AF it can still produce good enough quality image but not as much as these high end ones can).
sounds like you dont have first hand experience with one of these used in the test. Check them out yourself before going off the deep end. You never know. Maybe you may like something new
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Did you ever look at sony X700 blu ray player?
Very similar to the 800 but has full dolby vision capability. Some how its still cheaper than the 800? I dont get that. Sony pretty much gave up on the 800 when they started making the 700.
Great comparison. I bought an OPPO 203 in 2017. Last month, I bought a Samsung QN90C and a Q900C sound bar. I wanted to know if a 4K player was better than the OPPO. I watched the reviews on this Pansonic 9000 and the DP-UB820-K.
Since they were both the same for 4K movies, I bought the UB820-K. I set this player up side by side and was surprised at how much better the DP-UB820-K looked and sounded. I went through my 4K and Bluray and DVD movies. I put the OPPO on eBay, which sold in less than 24 hours.
Both damn good players only problem with oppo is that guys selling them think they are worth way more than they actually are. So they make the decision easy for me. Panasonic it is!
Oppo saw what was coming when the ub900 was released. As far as vide goes the ub900 was better than the 203 from oppo.The 9000 was released after oppo was basically done.Panasonic basically showed oppo the back door with the ub900 not the 9000.
Thank you for actually showing us the differences. I appreciate that more than just about anything else that I can think of.
If you want the exact same picture quality and you don’t plan on dropping your player off the roof, then go with the 820 and save yourself $500.
I think the 9000s premium appearance has its seat at the table in certain circles. 1000 US is no cheap price by anymeans either.
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude 1000 for a Blu-ray player is the dumbass realm. I wouldn't pay that for a Sony even though their the best.
@@catsbyondrepair Except Sony ISN'T the best. 😂😂😂😂😂
@@PSYCHOV3N0M Sony is the best and will always be the best.
@@catsbyondrepair Stop being a blind fanboy. You sound like an Apple fanboy that says BEATS headphones are the best. 😂😂😂
P.s. Learn the difference between THEIR and THEY'RE.
Doesn't play SACD's, which is a deal buster for me. But has XLR outputs, nice. The Panasonic UBD-LX500 model plays SACD's but does not have XLR outputs. Go figure. Audiophiles want SACD's and XLR outputs which give the best sound!
Thanks. I'm looking for a player and have SACD's.
@@SBBUK I ended up getting the Oppo.
I'm surprised Panasonic still doesn't support SACD. You would just assume audiophiles are not interested in high end combo players, but the crazy insane prices for used OPPO UDP-205's proves the opposite. I'd love to give Panasonic my $, but hard to do it given 4 year old used OPPO's are still better spec'ed for audio.
An actual audiophile would have a dedicated sacd player.
Panasonic is smashing the Oppo in this video, that clarity is much better.
Im glad! Some people feel attacked that I made this video. I have no dog in the fight because i dont own either player
One thing the UB9000 doesn’t do better is support many video file formats. This is where Oppo shines!!!
Great video!!!
To some people that doesnt matter. But yes you are right
Most people don't play nor use those video files anyway, so that wouldn't be a deciding factor in getting the Panasonic.
The picture is better no doubt but that is were it ends I would not swap my Oppo 203 for it, but as you can’t get oppo now it’s the next best thing on the market at this time
Well put Roman!
There are some features that still keeps OPPO in the game. For example for HDR to SDR conversion, on OPPO you can actually choose the target luminance of the tone mapping. On Panasonic it will be done at 350 nits, for basic luminance projector, but that can still be too much for a lot of projectors. Furthermore the OPPO has an HDMI In which allows you to use it as a video processor for HDR for all your devices (you can tone mapp the streaming content), and also you get to use all it's other video processing options for those devices. Also OPPO has the option to choose as default resolution the ,,source output'' if you want to to the uspcalling on your display. Some dislays , for example Epson 4k projectos and other 4k shiters are doing better with upscalling done directly in the display rathar than sending an upscalled 4k signal to them.
OPPO, with a third party software can also be used as a digital player for all your files. Panasonic can't really do that. You can play some of the digital files on Panasonic but you won't have lossless sound, you will have only lossy which is useless in a home cinema.
The only thing that Panasonic does much better is HDR tonemapping for HDR displays and that is really a very important feature, but unfortunately it can be used only for UHD discs and nothing else. Also as I have already said, if you want HDR to SDR you will still get minimum 350 nit, which can also be too much.
So with a 2009 plasma tv Hd ready, will have a problem if i buy the panasonic?I don't know how many knits is my screen.
Panasonic is best in class in upscaling and can down scale too. Not sure why that is wanted though. In end VERY few titles utilized the ability of DV. A few titles are but HDR10 really.
Shouldn’t you be comparing it to the oppo 205? When the 203 was in production it cost 550$. The 9000 cost 999$.
Jason Sullivan the oppo udp-203 was $650 when it came out and the video processors in the 203 and 205 are the same so wouldn’t make a difference to have the 205 from the video side of it . Now if you were talking about audio then you would have a point as the 203 and 205 are quite different.
203s are going for 900-1200 now on the used market. Supply dropped off and prices soared. I have seen the 205 go for 1500 used.
That Home Theater Dude correction the 203 has been $1500 used the 205 is upwards of $3k used , but yeah the prices have soared since they’ve closed shop.
@@Audiofreak71 personally I have only seen the prices that I mentioned. Either way dollar for current dollar comparison I like the panasonic for the money. I cant justify paying over 1000 for something thats used when i can get newer tech for cheaper. Thats just me. Im sure plenty of people have different logic though
That Home Theater Dude I agree with you there , I wouldn’t pay those ridiculous prices either even though they are excellent players , I own an oppo 105d as well as the 203 and paid retail from oppo , there’s no way of o didn’t have these already would I pay tHat much over retail regardless how great they are . But with that said I won’t part with my Oppo’s until they don’t work anymore , there that good to me .
I watched a really good video by techno dad. He compared the ub9000 and its younger brother (the 820) which is 500 less. They're was literally no difference in picture quality. Don't take my word for it go do your own homework
I disagree. The HDR optimizer isnt on the 820.
That Home Theater Dude isn’t the hdr optimizers really only beneficial for projectors?
No sir. You can turn it on and off on still scenes on a tv and still see a difference. I would say on a tv you would notice more of a difference than a projector. I wish I had a good 4k tv to show off that feature, but mine is old tech and probably wouldnt show the difference as intended.
HDR optimizer is on the 820, i own one myself and use it all the time.@@ThatHomeTheaterDude
Ryan Holtkamp he’s just trying to promote the UB9000. It’s partly how he gets paid.LOL. I’m getting the UB820 for £350 and I will enjoy the hdr optimiser that this guy in the video claims it does not have😂😂😂
Man, if this had SACD and DVD-Audio it'd be a one box solution. As it stands, a fantastic video disc player that needs a friend to enjoy some high res offerings.
how many sacd you listen to regulary?
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude I have a collection of around 30, plus DVD-Audio discs. At least once every few weeks on days off.
This is basically a "rebadge" of the OPPO 205 with a few changes. But the drive-circuit board layout, and the remote are basically the same. Only one USB on back, no DVD AUDIO or SACD, a different menu, but as far as the most important features, the same.
im not so sure. If it were then they would have left in the premium stuff like the sacd. they could have just picked up the casing from the same company that oppo was using because they had them laying around after the fall of oppo. im almost certain the guts are all different. i could be wrong though
Panasonic for the win
No oppo killer , i have a 5 bay 12 terabyte each nas hard drive and the oppo plays all my rip mkv 4k ultra hd movies with atmos , the pansonic , does not play 4k mkv files, and my sony projector projector has anamorphic lense and oppo has that stretch feature were is you can take a letter box screen and make it full screen without losing any of the picture , the oppo will also play A BDMV 4k or bluray file i have on my hardrive so those are 3 cons, For a thousand by bucks why wouldn't they have these features.
You are so spot on
Thanks I didn't even mention all my DVD audio and super CD files , that the OPPO plays that the Panasonic doesn't I not trading that in for a miner bust in picture quality.
Michael Foster Is it 203 or 205? Does your oppo play UHD Blu-Ray BDMV from its folder structure?
Hi yes my Oppo 203 can play 4K Atmos from my hard drive
I hope this is was you wanted to know
What camera? What settings? What color space? What frame rate?You can't make comparisons with frame blending and motion blur if your test equipment is not setup to do this.
Just got the 2021 Model. love it so far
His audio setup must sound amazing!
Is there a big visual and sound difference between the UB820 vs UB9000?
Love the Panasonic ub9000.
cineULTRA V204 is OPPO killer. Big killer. And play ISO. 16 GB RAM and linear toroid trafo🙋This is best player on Earth.
Great video. I’ll stick with my Oppo for a while.
I get you. they are solid players. The best benefit is to have the 9000 with a brand new tv w dolby vision or hdr10+. In my case it doesnt really make sense to upgrade with the current projector..... But i really want one now
I had to send my OPPO 203 in for service and I bought the Panasonic UB9000 as a back-up. I will run that OPPO until it fails and can no longer be serviced. The Panasonic is wonderful player but they definitely did not apply any logic to their on screen menus.
I would like to see a comparison of the Panasonic and the Pioneer Elite UDP-LX500
James Garrison YESS. Those are the two I can’t decide on. If anyone can weigh in on that, I would greatly appreciate it.
That comparison indeed would be great
Pioneers are shit, no streaming aps...
It’s no doubt the THX optimisations that can’t be altered that make it look better. Similar to putting a THX Blu-ray in a player over a regular Blu-ray, while the differences a subtle, I’m not sure many will change their oppos out. Personally, I would, just based on the fact that oppo are dead in the water. I wouldn’t purchase something that’s not going to last very long. This is an ideal alternative. I still need some videos of the pioneer UDP-LX800 from somewhere before I buy. It would be between the UB900 and the pioneer for me. But the price difference is HUGE. do you find and audio latency issues using two different hdmi cables for audio and video? My UD7007 can split audio and video. But there was always a delay until I used identical hdmi cables.
I like the oppo better. Great video
Panasonic all the way I had the oppo 203
I have Sony UBPX800 as backup or lending too! I recalled that Panasonic used to be one of the worst DVD player when I was young, but it gets better. Samsung is a bad 4K player I heard.
REALLY upset that a superb player like this Panasonic doesn't have zoom control, like all the Oppos do. But those Oppo dopes omitted allowing you to move and center the zoomed image on the screen. My JVC XV-NA70BK DVD player from 2004 can do that with ease. Zoom controls allow more intimate control over content and really adds to the fun. The least Panasonic should do for a player at this price is to add this feature via a firmware, but they probably wouldn't do so even if they could.
The real question is it double the price better.
Double the price? Used oppos are going for 900-1200 used right now.
I think that's a testament to the Oppo wouldn't you think?
And he's clearly comparing it to the original price of 549.00 at the time of their production.
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude
Honestly, I wish that Oppo would pay attention to what's happening and realize that there is still a market and demand for their products and start producing their products again. But, until then everyone after them is chasing a high.
isaacsykes3 I agree!
There's zero colour difference between them. The only thing is the Panasonic is slightly sharper, but very slightly. Unless you stop at each frame and compare it, you wouldn't notice the difference.
This is a small video representation. I only did short clips to avoid copyright. Video compression from uploading can have ab effect too. In person the differences were very apparent. Either ways both are premium UHD players and both will be great. Do you need to throw your oppo in the trash? Nope. If you have to have the newest and greatest then panasonic is the way to go. If we like it or not the oppo updates will be becoming far fewer very soon. Pros and cons to both really
Then for you dolby vision and hdr10 is the same thing. Every improvement matters, when you add all the improvements from every source it may become significant. Dont expect too much differences on this things as its only a matter of processing
@@marianogigahertz9212 not true. hdr 10 is standard hdr. dolby vision goes up to 12 bit. They had to one up everyone else. Most dislays are still playing catch up to get to dolby vision standards. Its becoming more prominent on the 2019 models
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Not related at all with what I said. But dolby vision is a minor improvement compared to hdr10. You have to stop the frames to see the differences in really dark or light situations.
If this guy says that the slighter sharper or small improvement is useless, then he will think the same of dolby vision
Now, will dolby vision be noticiable in the future with 12bit panels? Who knows, but still, not related to what i said
Picture looks incredible. Is there an optimized setting for plasma? lol
yes
Home theater dude I didn’t comment to throw shade at you. I’m sure the Panasonic is a great player but my point was if OPPO Was still around they would have an answer for Panasonic. And since you’re in Home theater industry you know OPPO made the best Blu-ray players. So don’t take it offensive that’s not what it was meant to be. And I also like that the OPPO Has 2 Output and a input I find the input useful. But I do have a question for you what do you like about the HDMI fiber cables and what advantage do they have over the certified 4K HDMI cables thanks And I like your show
Yeah for sure. If the panasonic came out last year while oppo was still around then i think it would be a more apt comparison. Seriously both are great, but in the spirit of the video I chose the Panasonic. Functionally I think the oppo wins hands down. The panasonic has its quirks with the longer load and scene skip times. The whole point of the video was to show just out of the box does it look great. I know other youtubers have done videos of the panasonic and i didnt want to talk about the same points. So i focused on video performance. I dont take your comments as mean. I know there are alot of people out there that love their oppos. Hope I didnt offend either. thanks for the reply. Very constructive. :)
Great video, I bought a lg ubk90 4K player I like it quite a bit got it for $199 at best buy
good deal man!
I noticed that you’re utilizing both hdmi outputs. Is it better this way or can someone utilize just the audio/video hdmi out to a receiver then from the receiver to the tv? Advantages vs disadvantages of using both hdmi outputs. THx
Does the buttons on the unit have a backlit feature? Also wish you'd cover the audio CD playback considering its a combo player.
Using Panasonic 820 with JVC 2000 from Zach. JVC rep Chris told me to use JVC frame adapt firmware for HDR. Set Pana to projector & not use HDR mapping
Hello, excellent review. It´s been great to see the diferences between the panasonic vs oppo.
I would like to ask you the posibility of comparing the panasonic ub9000 vs Pioneer lx500
Thanke you very much
Good idea. Im buying a panasonic soon and maybe i can get the pioneer sent to me to review
Awesome review. I doubt anyone buying this uses the remote that comes with players, most have Harmonys or similar.
Yeah I should have mentioned that. I use harmony too. Good input
Dude.............. you have some serious BASS in your setup :)
where?
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude I meant the SVS sub. You just had to get the meanest version they have :)
I hope your neighbors are no issues hehehe
Dudes the OPPO is ancient technology, but a good player nonetheless. The Panasonic 9000 to me looks better, beside the funky menu. Matter of time before technology changes and overcomes OPPO. I'm a Cisco Voice Engineer and look at the rate data/voice technologies are changing. Heck data centers are going cloud because of Amazon and AWS. You guys must like your heads stuck in the sand, while life passes by. I say give it a try? Might be the best thing since sliced pizza? 👍😀
Thank you for clarifying - Oppo 203 is better! It plays SACD, DVD Audio and MKV or any other format from external hard drive. Panasonic doesn't. Also, Oppo has the stretch feature for projectors and you can add external subtitle. Panasonic has longer loading time! mind you that Oppo is about two years older than the Panasonic. So, how is Panasonic the Oppo killer?
So are you saying you own and play SACD, &DVD audio all the time?
I own both. Panny for PQ is definitely better when it comes to 4k Blu rays.. way more flexibility with settings. also Netflix and Amazon 4k can also be tweaked with the Panny settings.
Good input :) !
Panasonic was definitely better.
Cool! Im glad its visible
Thanks great video can't wait to get one
Hi, I'm undecided between PANASONIC DP-UB9000 and OPPO UDP-203. The main use is the reproduction of 4K movies in MKV or ISO, always in native resolution without compression. Which one do you recommend for this? I play with a Sony 4K XW-5000 laser projector.
Thanks in advance for the answer.
You can see the difference in the neon lights behind Deadpool. They're blurred with the Oppo, Not the Panasonic. That being said, there is another video that shows the 9000 against the less expensive Panasonic DP-UB820, and the 820 has the somewhat better picture, although not as many bells and whistles. They're all fine players. If I had an Oppo, I wouldn't get rid of it. If I had to choose, between the three, I'd take the 820. I'm sure something better and less expensive is right around the corner.
Hey man. Great input. Thanks :)
Awesome video. What are the advantages of connecting your fiber hdmi from your audio/video out to your receiver and projector over connecting one HDMI to your receiver?
Zero middle man. The least amount of connection changes optimizes the video. We dont know the results from going through the AVR. It says full 4k passthrough, but for the sake of the test I wanted as little variables as possible. Thats why I used one cable direct from source to display
I'm starting to think my monitor is shit. The only time I saw a difference was on wade's decapitated head and 8:15 😢
I would rather buy the ub820 because there are many side by aides with those w and everyone that's used both actually most have chosen the 820b they like more because it seems to have more contrast in the image the 9000 is slightly brighter but that's it colors look richer and a little more contrast on the ub820 but I do think both are about as good as the oppo just in different ways both Panasonic's seems clearer then the oppo not just sharper there is a clarity that's what makes them the best I still think if you cant afford the 9000 the ub820 is just as good especially for the price contrast is insane on it ans I could see the difference in areas with the fiber optic cable this just proves hdmi cables do make a difference it was funny seeing a so calle dpro onetime stating none of them make a difference at all and that's vullshit I have proof it does and obviously so do you great video
Great review man, I'm looking for a replacement for my old oppo, I rip my UHDs as backup in 1:1 rips in UHD folder structure form, just curious if this can play ripped UHD folder structure?
Im not sure.
Oppo CAN.
Panasonic CAN'T.
Hello, where can you buy the Panasonic?
Try the Pioneer UDP 500, which is much better than the Panasonic ub 9004 in terms of audio playback.
The Panasonic sounds too dull without dynamics. The Pioneer is playing in a different league. It sounds full of dynamics and edgier. Then you come in the assessment of sound to another Rating.
Have you done a direct comparison yourself? And most people aren't going to use the analog audio on the player, they will use a hdmi cable or toslink cable to an AV receiver or powered speakers, which will then do the digital to analog conversion. Which is also why the Pansonic 820 is better value for most people.
Great video. Great breakdown
Great video love the comparison videos from the oppo
Does anybody have the mod that turns this into an SACD and DVD-Audio player?
Is it capable of Dolby Atoms and DTS:X because there is a very limited info available for Panasonic UB9000 and i checked the Value Electronics website and as much info available online but i couldnt find anything. I like it and i am thinking of buying it since OPPO 203 is not available at the regular price anymore. BTW Great video
yes sir. Both formats are supported. This plays whats on rhe disk so it really depends on your AVR to play the native file from what I understand
Hi,I'm in Ghana and I have Panasonic UB9000 but unfortunately, my remote control is missing, how and where can I get one,please?
I like oppo, he play everything in USB.
Most modern TVs already have a usb port on them that will play videos from an external hdd.
Earned a sub.+like! Love it! Please review the Sony ubp x700 Sony 4k player was it. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you!
From what I saw the Oppo was stronger in some situations and the Panasonic was stronger in other areas. I think for the price I will go with the Panasonic. If they were the same price I would go with the Oppo. I think overall the Oppo is just more seamless and is over all the stronger of the two but since I’m not watching a screen by screen play to compare at the same time. I wouldn’t notice the difference.
How is the 203 better? Picture quality is what matters and the UB820 is much better.
I saw nothing that indicated it bested the Oppo. I’m skeptical about the HDMI cable you thought gave better color. It would seem to me that the cable is adding some sort of color filtering which is changing the artistic intent of the movie. I have the Oppo 205 and it is a beast that all of the other manufactures are aspiring to be like. The most amazing thing is the Oppo players are discontinued and are still in the conversation and continue to lead imo. It also sounds like the Panasonic doesn’t have enough horsepower like the Oppo 203 which is the base model to the 205 and is slow in load times and switching scenes. To me that’s concerning.
Take this video out of it. In person the difference is clear. But i cant bring everyone over and show the A/B test. Again its a compromise. Do you want flawless functionality and slightly lower picture quality. Or slightly better PQ and some quirky functionality issues. In most cases people that dont do demos very often wont notice the scene skipping function because almost always people watch a movie straight through. Both are Top tier players and they both have pros and cons. You really cant go wrong with either, but the sky high prices of the second hand units still bothers me. But as long as people want to pay the high prices for the oppo then they will continue to be high. Im thinking the oppo used prices will soon drop though. Again either would be a great addition to anyones home. PQ is noticeably better than the lower priced (sub $200) 4k players.
That Home Theater Dude I here you but it seems your a/b test is flawed. I looked at your stills and they don’t seem to be exact frames. There are differences. When techno dad did his test, His frames appeared to be exact and there were no differences in PQ. Why? Because there should be no differences unless filtering is be introduced with the hdmi cable. I can pick out tons of differences with your frames which I believe is leading you to believe there are differences. I still can’t get over the difference in color you stated with the HDMI cable. I’m not debating that you saw differences, I’m simply saying that the differences may be due to a flawed ab test and an hdmi cable that may be filtering the signal. This would be concerning if you got your tv professionally calibrated and the hdmi cable throw off your calibrated specs.
Earle Beckford the differences you may be seeing is the side by side positioning. To have them out side by side I had to shift the original video over to match as close as possible. Saying this there was no difference in original capturing of filming. Nothing was enhanced or altered. I get I’m no pro at this but I tried to make it as fair and as close as I could. If you don’t agree please make your own that is perfect to every point. I saw differences in between the two so I filmed it. Cameras don’t catch everything. I understand your point of view as well.
Why chose the oppo 203 ($500) to be compared to the Panasonic ($999) instead of the oppo 205 ($1200)? Can I compare a Camaro with a 911?
Let's be honest,if you own the Oppo 203,hardly worth upgrading for debatable subtle differences!
with the Panny.
The Oppo 203 will be my final choice for 4K until we make the shift to 8K.which at the moment looks like it will be a disc free format😩😩
Are you saying 8k content will be all streaming?
Oppo also has an HD optimizer and I did not see you mention that. It is also twice the price of the Oppo 203 at the time of it's release. I think that I will stick with my Oppo
It has optimization settings but not the optimizer feature. The panasonic has both
You're review is spot on , Have both players , The Panasonic has a better contrast and sharper picture , The Oppo on the other hand will play anything you throw at it and is not far behind in Picture quality , Panasonic's always have problems with there disc draw being flimsy and cheap in construction and there is something they could have learned from Oppo but didn't , Just depends on what important to you in a player
Right on man. Its good to hear that. The panasonic has its quirks but I feel like it does present an amazing picture. I hope to buy one of these soon.
So basically only one shop is selling this in the entire world!?
No sir. I think each major country has its one supplier until the summer. HDTV films on youtube is in the UK and they has an exclusive dealer for the 9000 until summer too.
I would buy the BluRay player willingly
No, We'd rather force you.
N.1 Panasonic!
Does it play HDR movies via USB?
Sound + image
Most modern smart TVs can already do this if you plug an external HDD into the USB port on the back.
@@Tim._.. Really?
Check if it plays DTS or DTS-HD or DTS -X
And you will find that there are almost no TVs that do this
i can actually tell the ub9000 shows more detail. also when using the cheap hdmi vs fiber hdmi you can see the difference in colors and detail.
Thanks man. I thought there was a difference
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude the entire clip you can see a difference color wise and detail :)
Great review, thanks
Thanks! it was fun
what upsets me about this video is no reference to other Panasonic models that have the exact same HCX processor at a fraction of the cost.
was the video titled Panasonic comparison?
Just a personal opinion. I used to really like your opinions but lately I really noticed that every time someone sends you a product to review or is a sponsor video or a associate product you can tell that you are way to positive with the review and you give way to much trash to the other products. An Example of it is this video and your last one of the HDMI cables and the ones from the klipsch speakers that you used to love so much. I really hope that you stay truthful to your real opinions. I still watch your videos
The channel is growing and i get to review different things. My opinions are still my own and not influenced by anyone. Im sorry you feel like Im straying from my roots, but i feel like im staying true just on a bigger stage. ZERO of my videos are sponsored. I talk about what I want to and I am not coached or given guidelines to talk about. My channel is my platform to express what I think are great products. Hope you stick with me. I have plenty more ideas planned for the channel.
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude I do like your content, just let you know what it seems like from this side on the last few videos from my point of view. Anyway, best of luck with the channel.
Do you use a 2.1 hdmi cord for the audio ? I have the LG CX 65" with the LG SN11RG 7.1.4 sound bar.
Excellent review
I’m confused about the 820 vs 1000 in regards to audio. If you are passing it via hdmi to your receiver you aren’t taking advantage of the 1000’s dac. My Anthem MRX720 doesnt have a subwoofer in for the 1000 out so i guess I should get the 820?
So, should I get one of those Fiber HDMI cables for the new ASC/HDMI connectors??
send me a link to what you are talking about
probably should change that resolution output to 4k/60p (4:4:4) to get higher chroma subsampling and the full color accuracy.
4.4.4 is still a compressed color grading format, if only it were possible to run the full RGB spectrum!!! Ycbcr can send 4:4:4. Ycbcr is a a signal format different from RGB and meant to be more efficient. Ycbcr has Luma (brightness) information separate from chroma (color) which allows the subsampling of the latter (4:2:2 and 4:2:0) for more bandwidth but when you use 4:4:4 its virtually identical with RGB. Conversions between the two may cause some slight color inaccuracies but the measured differences are so small that they are almost in the margin of error domain. Definetly not invisible to the human eye
Yes Sir. Thats usually the case, but the epson 5040 that was used in this video isnt capable of 4.4.4. in 4k/60 or even 24 . If you set the setting to 4k/60 the projector plays in SDR. The epson only does HDR in 4k/24fps in 4.2.0. Thats why i went with the lower setting.
Why are you running 2 hdmi cable outs? Why dont you just send it to the AVR only?
I wanted to remove any chance of interferance of a true a/b comparison. We plan on redoing the video routing it through the AVRs for pass through. Im guessing there will be a difference, but thats the skeptic in me.
Can you explain how the 7.1 would hook up to an amplifier, i don't understand sorry there dose not seem to be enough red and white outputs to connect, what is the single red labelled R and single White R thanks
A little funny...why does it say "DVD video" at the fan outlet at the back?
I don't know but I feel the Oppo looks a little "soft" compared to the Panasonic.
I owned both Panasonic players and returned the 9000
It didn’t make sense for me to use the xlRs
I use both Hdmi outputs one for video one for hi def audio
You CLEARLY have no concept of what good 2 channel sound quality is like...
UB9000 + Fiber is delicious! now make comparison between: Pioneer Elite UDP-LX500 & Panasonic UB9000. Thank You. Great Channel! Very helpful in my final decision! Oppo is lacking punch.
Alright. Thanks for watching :)
The Panasonic has a slightly better picture than the Oppo. My Oppo 205 plays DVD Audio and SACD up to 768 Khz and DSD 512. Audio quality is more important to to me in a universal BluRay player with MQA. Too bad Trump's embargo of metals shut down the Oppo players manufacture. Thanks for the Video.
im sure oppo quit before trump.
Great review! 4K player reviews are few and far between so I appreciate it.
I’ll start with, I’m no audio/video expert. So I gave my left arm for a 8k Monoprice fiber hdmi for my Dennon AVR-X3700H and Sony A8H eARC pass through. When I opened the package I was like wtf because It was a directional cable? I tried it anyway, but it was not performing nearly as good as Zeskit Cinema Plus. I’m like, I guess it is only directional. So I connected it to my Apple TV4K to my Denon’s 2.1 8k input. I didn’t really see any difference in quality so I returned the cable. I just now realized Denon has been having problems with there 2.1 8k input so now I’m wondering if that it was the problem was? I don’t think so because I was only putting a 4K signal through it, but idk. Anyway just thought I’d mention that. Cool story bro. I liked the part in the middle the best.
Thanks man
For 1000$, this Pana should be knocking on the door of the Oppo 205, not the Oppo 203 really. But even as old as it is, the Oppo 203 is toe to toe with this new Panasonic.
I did not concentrate everywhere. But at 4:44, look at the tombstone; the Oppo shows the dirt on it much more clearly than the Pana.
At 4:39, look at the gun, the hand holding the gun; everything, is sharper on the Oppo image and its details are faded on the Panasonic image.
You claim at that the Panasonic is the winner for sharpness but the opposite is true in many stills.
Look at 5:03 the right half of the image: you will see the Oppo is much sharper whereas the Panasonic is dull.
Look again at 5:06 ; pause and compare the details of the leaves and trees on the Oppo shot versus the Panasonic and tell me which has sharper cuts and details.
This Panasonic can’t even best a middle-tier Oppo from years ago, so this Panasonic is overpriced, plain and simple. And I grew up a Panasonic fanboy.
I told you that the Panasonic 9000 was a better player 👍
seriously. The picture quality is the best i have seen. But then again i am used to an apple 4k tv and a sony x800. The oppo was great too. I am really impressed with the 9000. It has its quirks, but damn thats some good picture :)
Yes it’s a slow loading player but hopefully firmware update will make it faster 🤞but still the best picture yet even against the top pioneer at £2200 have a look nothing in it at all buddy keep the good work up 👍👍
Good idea. Hopefully yes. It was slightly annoying but noticeable.
9000 I believe will be wowed on my Panny OLED .
I hear they pair very well together. Robert was super impressed with the LG oleds that came out this year. I saw alot of them at CES this year. Its a wonderful time we live in.
That Home Theater Dude Absolutely yes. especially we have ongoing beautiful 4K physical media.
Trying to figure how to program the TV control buttons on the 9000 remote to work with my Sony A9G. Maybe the Panasonic remote doesn’t work with a Sony Tv or is there a way to program the remote?
I would want the Oppo and Panasonic side by side in a VE Shootout with a calibrator involved before making a determination. Looking carefully on a MacBook Pro with retina, i find the Oppo to be too bright in most scenes. Don't know if it's a setting or something else with the processing.
A Calibrated Oppo wins. Dude is making coin on this. I call BS.