Quick hitters. With poker I like to learn the invidivual pieces of the process. So like "this signal means tendency x" and then "exploit tendency x but doing this"
One of my favorite plays is to snap call with a very strong hand on earlier streets. I found that people have a lot of trouble putting me on top of range when I do this.
Love the delay gratification line! Never thought of it EVER and I think about this game a lot 😅. Genius stuff. Will implement it into my game asap! Ty dude
That first tip at the end of the video about not buying in for the max I find intriguing. I see it all the time even though I’ve stopped doing it at the 1-3 stake, but I don’t really understand the disadvantages to it. I just know that I stopped doing it because I want all the firepower I can possibly have if I find myself in a great spot I want to get all the money in at. But a video on that would be awesome! Explaining buy-ins and what we should be buying in at and why. I have recently moved up to 2-5 (max buy-in is 1k) instead of 1-3 and sometimes I buy in for 6-800 instead of the max. Is this a mistake? Thanks in advance! 🥳
I think you've mostly hit on it with your idea that you want the max firepower. Over the long run, if you are a winning player, your win rate per hand is going to be less when the effective stack is less, because it's impossible to win the biggest pots. So players that are confident they can win the biggest pots at an above average rate are going to want to have the biggest stack possible, and conversely, when they sit down with less than the max, it suggests they are not confident in their ability to win the biggest pots.
I will mention that just because players buying in short tend to be weak at a high proportion, it does not follow that buying in for less than the max is some egregious mistake. You might do it because you want to observe the table for awhile before going for max exploits, or you might do it because you have some reason to believe the opponents are going to make more mistakes against short stacks. However, if you feel like you want to buy in for less than the max consistently and are not sure why you are doing it, I would at least consider the possibility that either buying in for the max OR playing lower stakes would lead to a better win rate.
Found the channel a couple days ago, absolutely love it. Around 08:20. Is it so bad to check the river as villain with TPTK? Boban has a decent amount of missed draws, don't we want to give him the opportunity to bluff? He may also think that we have missed draw ourself and go for light value.
Around 4:00 you talk about how our opponent has a polarized range and that we want to start check raising a lot. My understanding of theory was that against a polarized range we want to do a lot of calling to allow their bluffs to continue bluffing. If our opponent has nuts or air, isn't check raising small allowing them to play perfect? They get to fold out their junk, and continue with their nuts and draws in position.
really good question. i would call with our value + our nutted draws to keep them barreling with worse and so we don't value own ourselves. with our worse draws, raising small is pretty nice because we get to fold out some air that is better, and fold out their monkey bets that beat our hand. in general, when they're betting polar - raise air small, value huge. when they're betting linearly - raise value small, air huge.
@@martinpier2073not cheap for a reason mate 😉 This is actually top notch content and probably the only coaching that is worth it and I’d ever pay for if I was in need of coaching. I bet this guy knows how to crush online with just looking at his stats as well… something that no one ever teach, only bullshit theory that anyone can learn on their own.
That’s the skill I have been lack of in decades. By not being aggressive enough especially when on a downswing and during the bankroll shortage. Your coaching makes me have more courage to do a big bluff at the right spot. You make my weakness go away
This year alone I folded KK 5 times pre flop, I was correct for all but one. In that case I cold 4 bet with KK and original raiser jammed for only 90BB but the 3 better rejammed on top of it for 200BB effective. A jam to a cold 4 bet at 1/3 and even 2/5 level is KK or AA since I had KK I weighed it towards AA. In this case he had the other KK. His reasoning was, well I am just never folding KK preflop without looking at the configuration. I still call it a win
One nuance with the limp reraise play. I see this way more from fish in utg or utg1. I feel like the same villain is somewhat likely to open raise AA/KK from late position because less of a chance someone will raise behind. Do you see this?
Love the content bro, looks like you've found a niche - rapid fire, high value, practical lessons. TY TH-cam algorithm for the suggestion! I'm not sure about tip #4 where Villain Xs river OOP with TPTK after all the draws brick. Are you implying that is a bad check? I'd definitely consider checking that spot to allow IP to bluff with missed draws. Without solving, I feel like checking, blocking and value betting all have merit there and therefore not be likely to consider the Villain that Xs over TPTK to be making an exploitable mistake, and certainly not from just 1 showdown. What do you think?
thanks for the kind words! against the live player population x tptk otr when draws brick is not great because players massively underbluff and do not bet thinly enough.
@@hungryhorsepokeragreed. But you also overlooked that if someone is implementing this strategy of giving people rope OTR when everything whiffs, then you should also include hands like QQ-AA in there, in which case we don’t want to be overbetting with AJ. We want to have 2pair+ to overbet and use smaller sizes with AJ.
I don't straddle bc it's essentially vpiping 100% range, and halving the effective stack - neither of which play to my edge. Has nothing to do with my aggression, but I can see how it would for recs.
Hey new subscriber here, for quick hit #1, you said if a player buy less than the max for example if max is 300 but player buy in for 200 he might be a recreational player. Im curious about that.
Hi Marc. Started watching your videos from a reference from Andrew neeme from his vlogs. Can you do a video on how to punish an extremely passive over limping table? I play at elements casino in victoria BC and even when I raise 7x or 8x I get called by 4/5 people that only know how to limp call almost every time. I started online and home games in person where I studied GTO which worked really well. I turned 19 recently and realized at live cash games GTO doesnt work?
hey yes! can definitely jump into this. just a couple notes. 1) check out how to exploit every player type if you haven’t. some clues in there how to deal w limpers. 2) gto is exploit and exploit is gto. the solver is the best player in the world if you give it your opponents strategy. the gto strategy is max exploit and vice versa! happy to jump into this topic in more depth tho cuz a lot of people struggle with it
@@hungryhorsepokerI feel like every time I do this with KK on a dry low flop they check back AK or AQ and an Ace shows on the turn every time. Obviously I am exaggerating but aren’t we just giving free cards to AK when we have KK or QQ?
5.35 why would he call your check raise on turn if he is going to fold on the river shove ?? Because when you check raise the turn it’s almost guaranteed that you are going to shove the river..so he is either not folding on the river and calls your bluff or at a better scenario for you he is just folding on the turn
Great vid as usual. Was playing last night with a 22yo greenhorn and recommended you. I think you’re the best for simple breakdowns that’ll improve someone’s game quickly.
You've said that if a villain is just cold calling 3-bet with ak , then every 4-bet from him is only aa or kk. What if they differentiate their 3-bet or 4-bet range? I guess some of them know the trick
More likelier than average: Buys in less than the table norm/ or small.. poor player Sits out bomb pots.. under bluffs Limps a lot .. loose fish Limp re raiser... prob AA or KK, and opens weaker Sits out table straddles.. under bluffer Opens very large... probably a pretty good hand. Consider big re raise Calls 3bets OOP way too much... Three bet linear and larger Buys in with cash is probably a fish Buys in with chips or from box.. more likely not a big fish People lining up chips neatly with stripes aligned... probably conservative player
I think the more difficult part is to realize that a villain does these things on a regular basis. You usually dont spend enough time playing with alot of live players to assume a certain player always checks back top pair or doesnt raise a set on a wet board.
You use the term "under bluffing" a lot. What's an adequate bluffing frequency? Let's assume $1/$3 no limit 100+ big blinds deep. For example, a big river bet, should I be bluffing ~30% of the time? Half the time? The majority of the time? I'm sure part of the answer is "it depends," but let's just assume against a random low stakes rec player.
That’s funny. I intentionally buy in for like 115Bbb in a 150bb cap game so that people try to exploit me early. The regs know that trick but I catch the recs all the time
recreational players are recreational because they’re there for fun. they are not good at poker. doing something so recs try to exploit you is disingenuous because THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO EXPLOIT. if you truly have an edge in the game, buying in for less than the max is lighting money on fire.
@@hungryhorsepoker I get ya. Here in stl, the game is mainly bad regs. So maybe that’s what I meant rather than recs. We have a lot of rec type tourney players that read a few books and look for those basic tells. They are the easy ones to exploit because you will stack them. They call the 150bb preflop Jams with 88 and shit like that when you are correct, I’m going to have TT+ AK. Typically, the limp reraise works best from the bb when there is a button straddle on. You have a premium. You wanna play for all of it. But if you raise to like 30 now, you are gonna get the water fall. Better let the wannabe pros “attack all that dead money” just to get jammed on
Funny enough I got to put this into practice yesterday. I had J9 suited and the flop came Q, T, 5 rainbow. Check raised the villain on the turn for a 5x sizing and snapped me off. Bet all in for around a pot sized bet and snapped me off again with KQ. (Top pair by the river)
this is false. how do i know? we have over 50k hours of horses / coaches playing in 25+ diff poker markets across the world. and guess what? people fold top pair a LOT if you don’t play pot limit hold ‘em. don’t listen to the gas station people, guys.
@@hungryhorsepoker not mean to be disrespectful in anyway. I’ve been a cash wining player for over a decade, in live games 90% of players are fish. They won’t fold top tops unless board is extremely wet and connected. I’ve NEVER seen someone folding top top in the scenario you’ve illustrated
@@hungryhorsepoker I think it just depends on the game. Player by player basis as is with everything (and I think you’ve mentioned this in this video or another one going over a similar spot). Some players aren’t good enough to fold top top. So the adjustment is to just value bet and get all the money in when they’re never folding regardless of action.
which reads are more useful - the ones from showdown or the quick hitters at the end of the video?
Showdown 😊
Quick hitters. With poker I like to learn the invidivual pieces of the process. So like "this signal means tendency x" and then "exploit tendency x but doing this"
One of my favorite plays is to snap call with a very strong hand on earlier streets. I found that people have a lot of trouble putting me on top of range when I do this.
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All were great!
Love the delay gratification line! Never thought of it EVER and I think about this game a lot 😅. Genius stuff. Will implement it into my game asap! Ty dude
Guys I haven’t seen the video yet but I’m gonna make a crazy poker read and say the flop is J92
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If the flop come J92, and your opponent says "Look at that sweet baby there," we are going to be over thinking this spot.
I haven't watched yet either but I'mma give you a thumbs up 😂
Rain man! That you?!
Boban is a J92 magnet
That first tip at the end of the video about not buying in for the max I find intriguing. I see it all the time even though I’ve stopped doing it at the 1-3 stake, but I don’t really understand the disadvantages to it. I just know that I stopped doing it because I want all the firepower I can possibly have if I find myself in a great spot I want to get all the money in at. But a video on that would be awesome! Explaining buy-ins and what we should be buying in at and why. I have recently moved up to 2-5 (max buy-in is 1k) instead of 1-3 and sometimes I buy in for 6-800 instead of the max. Is this a mistake? Thanks in advance! 🥳
I think you've mostly hit on it with your idea that you want the max firepower. Over the long run, if you are a winning player, your win rate per hand is going to be less when the effective stack is less, because it's impossible to win the biggest pots. So players that are confident they can win the biggest pots at an above average rate are going to want to have the biggest stack possible, and conversely, when they sit down with less than the max, it suggests they are not confident in their ability to win the biggest pots.
I will mention that just because players buying in short tend to be weak at a high proportion, it does not follow that buying in for less than the max is some egregious mistake. You might do it because you want to observe the table for awhile before going for max exploits, or you might do it because you have some reason to believe the opponents are going to make more mistakes against short stacks.
However, if you feel like you want to buy in for less than the max consistently and are not sure why you are doing it, I would at least consider the possibility that either buying in for the max OR playing lower stakes would lead to a better win rate.
Found the channel a couple days ago, absolutely love it. Around 08:20. Is it so bad to check the river as villain with TPTK? Boban has a decent amount of missed draws, don't we want to give him the opportunity to bluff? He may also think that we have missed draw ourself and go for light value.
Another great video MARC. Is so funny the way you talk with your imagenry friends on your right & left. lol
Around 4:00 you talk about how our opponent has a polarized range and that we want to start check raising a lot. My understanding of theory was that against a polarized range we want to do a lot of calling to allow their bluffs to continue bluffing.
If our opponent has nuts or air, isn't check raising small allowing them to play perfect? They get to fold out their junk, and continue with their nuts and draws in position.
really good question.
i would call with our value + our nutted draws to keep them barreling with worse and so we don't value own ourselves. with our worse draws, raising small is pretty nice because we get to fold out some air that is better, and fold out their monkey bets that beat our hand.
in general, when they're betting polar - raise air small, value huge. when they're betting linearly - raise value small, air huge.
@@hungryhorsepoker thats good stuff -thx! What a pitty your Basecamp is not cheap ;)
@@martinpier2073not cheap for a reason mate 😉
This is actually top notch content and probably the only coaching that is worth it and I’d ever pay for if I was in need of coaching. I bet this guy knows how to crush online with just looking at his stats as well… something that no one ever teach, only bullshit theory that anyone can learn on their own.
Would love a video on leaning how to geo-size! Thanks love the content
@8:48 what exactly do you mean by, “Villain is going to double? Looks like he bet about 75% pot” or did you mean double barrel?
yes
Awesome don’t think I’ve seen anything like this - very value heavy
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That’s the skill I have been lack of in decades. By not being aggressive enough especially when on a downswing and during the bankroll shortage. Your coaching makes me have more courage to do a big bluff at the right spot. You make my weakness go away
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This is pure gold, some of the tips off, I use for a while, and some are news to me
sir, how often have you folded kk pre? for 100bb i have not yet, for 200bb i folded once.
This year alone I folded KK 5 times pre flop, I was correct for all but one. In that case I cold 4 bet with KK and original raiser jammed for only 90BB but the 3 better rejammed on top of it for 200BB effective. A jam to a cold 4 bet at 1/3 and even 2/5 level is KK or AA since I had KK I weighed it towards AA. In this case he had the other KK. His reasoning was, well I am just never folding KK preflop without looking at the configuration. I still call it a win
Since straddling is -EV, isn’t it somewhat correct to assume they are also profiting player (instead of assuming he’s scared money?)
very very helpful to me，thx for your videos.
Dude.. its pure gold
One nuance with the limp reraise play. I see this way more from fish in utg or utg1. I feel like the same villain is somewhat likely to open raise AA/KK from late position because less of a chance someone will raise behind. Do you see this?
Marc: may I ask you how do you exploit people who is very passive? Such as on a board 78KK9 and this passive player just call on the river with J 10
thankfully we have an entire video on this very concept. check it out. how to exploit every player type.
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What’s your buy in strategy Marc - always cover the table?
the most they allow
Love youre content, big fan from belgium
i love belgium!
Love the content bro, looks like you've found a niche - rapid fire, high value, practical lessons. TY TH-cam algorithm for the suggestion!
I'm not sure about tip #4 where Villain Xs river OOP with TPTK after all the draws brick. Are you implying that is a bad check? I'd definitely consider checking that spot to allow IP to bluff with missed draws. Without solving, I feel like checking, blocking and value betting all have merit there and therefore not be likely to consider the Villain that Xs over TPTK to be making an exploitable mistake, and certainly not from just 1 showdown. What do you think?
thanks for the kind words!
against the live player population x tptk otr when draws brick is not great because players massively underbluff and do not bet thinly enough.
@@hungryhorsepokeragreed. But you also overlooked that if someone is implementing this strategy of giving people rope OTR when everything whiffs, then you should also include hands like QQ-AA in there, in which case we don’t want to be overbetting with AJ. We want to have 2pair+ to overbet and use smaller sizes with AJ.
Another amazing video! I wish you would stop! “Dealer, No Coaching!” Lol. Your videos are so relevant to Today’s game!
I don't straddle bc it's essentially vpiping 100% range, and halving the effective stack - neither of which play to my edge. Has nothing to do with my aggression, but I can see how it would for recs.
Great video, I’m glad metalcore Dario Minieri popped up on my feed today
Great vid thanks
Like your videos but curious why majority of them are based around the J-9-2 flop?
no idea, seems as good a flop as any!
@@hungryhorsepoker well it is a pretty good example of a wet board but should probably do an entire vid of dry boards for "balance" 🙃
Hey new subscriber here, for quick hit #1, you said if a player buy less than the max for example if max is 300 but player buy in for 200 he might be a recreational player. Im curious about that.
yes, the best players will always buy in for max.
Almost a guarantee that if they don’t buy for the max they are a rec player
New subscriber! Incredible content!! My question is how do you only have 12K in subs?! #letsgo!!
welcome!
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Hi Marc.
Started watching your videos from a reference from Andrew neeme from his vlogs.
Can you do a video on how to punish an extremely passive over limping table?
I play at elements casino in victoria BC and even when I raise 7x or 8x I get called by 4/5 people that only know how to limp call almost every time.
I started online and home games in person where I studied GTO which worked really well. I turned 19 recently and realized at live cash games GTO doesnt work?
hey yes! can definitely jump into this. just a couple notes.
1) check out how to exploit every player type if you haven’t. some clues in there how to deal w limpers.
2) gto is exploit and exploit is gto. the solver is the best player in the world if you give it your opponents strategy. the gto strategy is max exploit and vice versa!
happy to jump into this topic in more depth tho cuz a lot of people struggle with it
Yes please make a video for it.
Do you recommend range checking out of pos even in 3 bet pots?
@@feellikeshitz3783vs most players, yes. vs good regs no.
@@hungryhorsepokerI feel like every time I do this with KK on a dry low flop they check back AK or AQ and an Ace shows on the turn every time. Obviously I am exaggerating but aren’t we just giving free cards to AK when we have KK or QQ?
Shoutout Boban
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Love it all….except when the chip art guy jammed on me😂
5.35 why would he call your check raise on turn if he is going to fold on the river shove ?? Because when you check raise the turn it’s almost guaranteed that you are going to shove the river..so he is either not folding on the river and calls your bluff or at a better scenario for you he is just folding on the turn
Great vid as usual. Was playing last night with a 22yo greenhorn and recommended you. I think you’re the best for simple breakdowns that’ll improve someone’s game quickly.
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You've said that if a villain is just cold calling 3-bet with ak , then every 4-bet from him is only aa or kk. What if they differentiate their 3-bet or 4-bet range? I guess some of them know the trick
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I'm a LAG, but I suffer from severe OCD so I keep my chip stack tidy lol
More likelier than average:
Buys in less than the table norm/ or small.. poor player
Sits out bomb pots.. under bluffs
Limps a lot .. loose fish
Limp re raiser... prob AA or KK, and opens weaker
Sits out table straddles.. under bluffer
Opens very large... probably a pretty good hand. Consider big re raise
Calls 3bets OOP way too much... Three bet linear and larger
Buys in with cash is probably a fish
Buys in with chips or from box.. more likely not a big fish
People lining up chips neatly with stripes aligned... probably conservative player
I think the more difficult part is to realize that a villain does these things on a regular basis. You usually dont spend enough time playing with alot of live players to assume a certain player always checks back top pair or doesnt raise a set on a wet board.
... how many times in your lifetime you think you ve folded KK prelop vs 4bet ?
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Not to be dramatic but I would die for Bobon
omg
I call #9 nit or omc stacks 😂
Poor boben getting slaughtered in this session
I'm not a straddler, and I'm defo not super conservative. Good to know how others view me 😂
so tom dwan is a fish?
I’ve just become one hungry ass Horse
You use the term "under bluffing" a lot. What's an adequate bluffing frequency? Let's assume $1/$3 no limit 100+ big blinds deep. For example, a big river bet, should I be bluffing ~30% of the time? Half the time? The majority of the time? I'm sure part of the answer is "it depends," but let's just assume against a random low stakes rec player.
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Hmmmmm... lesson #1: dont buy in for max.
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That’s funny. I intentionally buy in for like 115Bbb in a 150bb cap game so that people try to exploit me early. The regs know that trick but I catch the recs all the time
recreational players are recreational because they’re there for fun. they are not good at poker. doing something so recs try to exploit you is disingenuous because THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO EXPLOIT. if you truly have an edge in the game, buying in for less than the max is lighting money on fire.
@@hungryhorsepoker I get ya. Here in stl, the game is mainly bad regs. So maybe that’s what I meant rather than recs. We have a lot of rec type tourney players that read a few books and look for those basic tells. They are the easy ones to exploit because you will stack them. They call the 150bb preflop Jams with 88 and shit like that when you are correct, I’m going to have TT+ AK. Typically, the limp reraise works best from the bb when there is a button straddle on. You have a premium. You wanna play for all of it. But if you raise to like 30 now, you are gonna get the water fall. Better let the wannabe pros “attack all that dead money” just to get jammed on
@@hungryhorsepoker when they button straddle, they love attacking limps
look at that sweet baby there
99% of cash players aren’t folding with top pair top kicker
Funny enough I got to put this into practice yesterday. I had J9 suited and the flop came Q, T, 5 rainbow. Check raised the villain on the turn for a 5x sizing and snapped me off. Bet all in for around a pot sized bet and snapped me off again with KQ. (Top pair by the river)
this is false. how do i know? we have over 50k hours of horses / coaches playing in 25+ diff poker markets across the world. and guess what? people fold top pair a LOT if you don’t play pot limit hold ‘em.
don’t listen to the gas station people, guys.
@@hungryhorsepoker not mean to be disrespectful in anyway. I’ve been a cash wining player for over a decade, in live games 90% of players are fish. They won’t fold top tops unless board is extremely wet and connected. I’ve NEVER seen someone folding top top in the scenario you’ve illustrated
@@hungryhorsepoker I think it just depends on the game. Player by player basis as is with everything (and I think you’ve mentioned this in this video or another one going over a similar spot). Some players aren’t good enough to fold top top. So the adjustment is to just value bet and get all the money in when they’re never folding regardless of action.
@@Kong_fool so are you going all in by the river every single time you beat TP?
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