Never folding TT there since people will go for 3 streets with AA/AK, even though it's likely too thin (in theory). At the same time, you will be called there by KJ/K9 maybe disbelieving AQ enough that's it's probably fine to go 3 streets with AA in live poker, although maybe for smaller river sizing.
I think on that last example, its important to node lock villain's turn strategy betting KT and KQ pure, essentially I think villians go for 3 streets with KQ and maybe 75% of the time with KT. More than solver would, which would skew us into likely calling some sets. Likely TT specifically as it unblocks the KQ overvalue, villain should only have KTs so that is less relevant, and should have all combos of KQ.
Your videos are always amazing both in quality and content and I look forward to seeing them every week. I have to say that this is one of my favorites. The content is incredibly accurate against the vast majority of the player pool in my experience. Great work again Marc. 👏🏻
You always point out bluffs that are "supposed" to be there but likely won't be, while not even considering the flip side of missed draws that are "supposed" to not bluff but often might.
The funny thing is, exactly these spots are the exploits for Highstakes Regs to overbluff (basically bluff everything) against weak regs on higher limits. I mean no 25/50$ super soft private game in USA but a tough live game with good online Regs. The best thing is that you know the optimal GTO solution and then know your opponents how they differentiate from optimal strategy.
You really have a talent for explaining difficult things in way that's easy to digest. These solver backed vids are my favorites, really easy to understand the logic behind decisions this way 👌
Thank you for the content. Please, explain the Spot #5. Bottom set from TT OOP vs narrow range on already awful board and 2 cards to come. Actually, we don't want to see many cards at all, because then we'll 💯 have to check-fold our hand. The question is: for what's sake do we call the set on this flop, taking into account future awful spots?
i'd say having some solver studies is almost the baseline for a poker learning channel in 2024. times have changed. people need to step their (youtube) game if they're trying to make a name for themselves.
Love your videos! Do you have any videos on playing shorter stack depths? Most fish/recs at my local 2/5 game have short stacks, from $150-$350 dollars, so bluffing feels riskier as they'll call off their more mid-strong hands. Thanks!
Another nice video, but ... I'm missing Denice the Menace !!!😜Personnaly i find the fisrt four good. Where I have concern is with the tripple broadway board. Depending of the Vilain I may call river !
THIS has been the video I've been looking for. I've been trying to find ways to know when to "overfold to aggression" and these scenarios are perfect examples. Btw, I tried to apply for the Hungry Horse bootcamp, but it says that there's no availability in July. When will you guys do the next round of interviews?
thank you i’m glad you enjoyed!! we are most likely not going to do a bootcamp for august as we focus on building out a new program for fall. shoot us your email and we’ll make sure you’re first in line.
Great content, Marc. I’m primarily an MTT player but want to give credit where it’s due! Great content for a community that may not be able to totally understand it 😅😅
Nice video as always! About the BB 3bet range being more tight than GTO, I'm adjusting preflop by calling/4betting as if were one position to the left (If I'm on the button, I react as if I were the cutoff). If I'm doing this exploit preflop, Do I still need to overfold and under raise the flop? Thx a lot again for this massive +EV content.
yes, i wouldn’t think of it as one position to the left. id think of it as they are under 3b by such an order of magnitude (3-5x less than equilibrium) that you need to drastically shift your strategy in response
@@hungryhorsepokeroh ok. Thx for the reply. All of these is assuming villain is a weak reg/fish right? On my pool BB regs are 3betting vs BTN a 9% of the time compared to the 14% of GTO, so we adapt by being overly tight.
Great video. With these types of videos, I recommend that you break it up into chapters and list the 5 in the notes. I only counted 4 and I feel like I'm missing something very important 🙂
Wow this is an amazing video. Don't agree with all your ranges and think yoou overdid it to get the point across but overall still accurate I would say.
is this solver output assuming its a heads up hand? Or is it somehow taking into account this went like 6 ways to a flop? If its not, then shouldnt we be folding even tighter than the video suggests?
@@hungryhorsepoker on the turn it was heads up but on the flop you bet into several players. You even said you bet on the smaller side because it was multi-way
Great video. But to be even better you would need to adapt the node to the villains behaviour. I d never fold my set of 10 to a recrational player for example who will overplay his two pairs or top pair.
I'm confused about the last? (I don't know, I haven't watched the video to the end, but the TT vs. UTG open) hand. I get these programs work on a range vs. range assumption but how can this program provide practical playing information when it still assumes villain can have TT when we have TT and flop a set? -how is that not nonsense?
If you show the result of MDA to support your opinion, this video makes sense because it can be evidence. But what you did is to create formula which support your opinions and show it to us. It is same as you repeated your opinion without supporting facts. Moreover, A high board explanation seems strange to me. On the Turn, you deleted unintuitive bluff which somewhat make sense but you didn’t touch bluffs from KJ and KT which solver does low frequency but people do high frequency because they are intuitive. You node locked only to get what you wanted.
im calling with 10s depending on player type. there are some aggro mfers in the world that triple off with kj in that last example. 10s too strong to fold. but easy to fold in the river spot
In the last example, folding a set of 10s, the fold only becomes correct when you don't give them all the offsuit combos of KQ as a bet, which I think they will have since even the worst players have seen a UTG opening chart and it's the easiest one to memorize. I think they would also have a combo of Q10 and K10 that would bet sometimes. Seems like we actually beat too much value to fold, no? Nitpicking that specific spot aside, great content as always!
@@hungryhorsepoker I did, couldn't really find an answer, so I asked. Why? Because it's so tempting to overplay? Because it often gets a lot of folds pre-flop since it blocks a lot of Ax hands? Dunno, you tell me.
I love the video! But I have to say, folding TT on that board when I think most people tripple AK and KQ is really hard gold to find I’d have to have a read
Holy shit, 200bb poker is so grossly nitty man. I cannot believe that TT, QQ and KK are basically pure check backs after just two streets of value in the last example! What goes from easy value bets 100bb deep becomes extremely nitty/weird polar bear shit OTR, omg.
Folding bottom set there is insanity. I agree that it’s underbluffed but I also think people overestimate their hand strength. You didn’t have the offsuit combo of KQ, QT and KT.
correct. because they’re either a good reg or a fish. 1) good regs don’t open these hands from utg - so it’s a fold. 2) fish may open these hands (but most likely limp / don’t open some of them), but even then fish are bluffing 1247x less than good regs so even with those offsuit hands…. it’s probably still not a profitable call.
Man I can't believe TT would be 76% fold even with your adjustments there. KQ, KT, QT seem like value bets on that river so that makes it an auto call no? Mind you i never played higher than 2/5 live.
just because you know something, doesn’t mean your opponent does - be careful with this. your opponents aren’t gonna be like - omg 3 broadway board this spot is underbluffed so i shall fold bottom set.
Seems like a self-fulling prophecy. You changed the vilain range to never bluffs, than run the solver that tells you that since vilain never bluff you should fold.
@@hungryhorsepokerthe last hand did you only nodelock the river because if so idk whether the silver plays KQ as a pure bet flop bet turn hand but low stakes villains are going to bet that at a very very high frequency and that could change our calling maybe a little bit
@@Darealmclovin47you dont "know the frequency" of every villain in every spot, you take your experience of how villains play, estimate how theyre range plays, and learn the general way to counter theyre tendencies. Poker doesnt boil down to 74.8884% in reality
marc. what happened to the absurd subscribing offers? like if i’m gonna subscribe i at least want the chance for u to give me your beard trimmings if i show you im subscribed😞
which of these spots is most shocking to you? would you be folding bottom set in the last example?
Never folding TT there since people will go for 3 streets with AA/AK, even though it's likely too thin (in theory). At the same time, you will be called there by KJ/K9 maybe disbelieving AQ enough that's it's probably fine to go 3 streets with AA in live poker, although maybe for smaller river sizing.
I think on that last example, its important to node lock villain's turn strategy betting KT and KQ pure, essentially I think villians go for 3 streets with KQ and maybe 75% of the time with KT. More than solver would, which would skew us into likely calling some sets. Likely TT specifically as it unblocks the KQ overvalue, villain should only have KTs so that is less relevant, and should have all combos of KQ.
@@PhonyBologna fair point!
@@TheNow_Now Same here
Great vlog as always. 👍👍👍👍
The last example is the most shocking to me because it seems that TT could get value from some worse hands there.
Your videos are always amazing both in quality and content and I look forward to seeing them every week.
I have to say that this is one of my favorites. The content is incredibly accurate against the vast majority of the player pool in my experience. Great work again Marc. 👏🏻
bless u
This is gold. Some of the best poker content I’ve seen on TH-cam
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You always point out bluffs that are "supposed" to be there but likely won't be, while not even considering the flip side of missed draws that are "supposed" to not bluff but often might.
Similar to your point on the triple broadway board he missed adding a couple value bets like KQ and AA that the solver checks back pure
I love the content tho Mr goone
The funny thing is, exactly these spots are the exploits for Highstakes Regs to overbluff (basically bluff everything) against weak regs on higher limits. I mean no 25/50$ super soft private game in USA but a tough live game with good online Regs.
The best thing is that you know the optimal GTO solution and then know your opponents how they differentiate from optimal strategy.
yep!
This is my favorite video of yours so far. So cool to see your thought process while using a solver.
thank. thank u!
You really have a talent for explaining difficult things in way that's easy to digest. These solver backed vids are my favorites, really easy to understand the logic behind decisions this way 👌
thank you thank you thank you!
Thanks Marc for another excellent video! Appreciate the help.
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Thank you for the content.
Please, explain the Spot #5.
Bottom set from TT OOP vs narrow range on already awful board and 2 cards to come.
Actually, we don't want to see many cards at all, because then we'll 💯 have to check-fold our hand.
The question is: for what's sake do we call the set on this flop, taking into account future awful spots?
all my homies love it when marc makes a video, good stuff as always
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Very helpful. Thank you.
basically this is the type of content I would never share for free. Kudos to you sir
our paid stuff is better 😂
@@hungryhorsepokeryes, but rather expensive for 2/4 European Player
i'd say having some solver studies is almost the baseline for a poker learning channel in 2024. times have changed. people need to step their (youtube) game if they're trying to make a name for themselves.
excellent analysis of hands breakdown. Good job..
Love your videos! Do you have any videos on playing shorter stack depths? Most fish/recs at my local 2/5 game have short stacks, from $150-$350 dollars, so bluffing feels riskier as they'll call off their more mid-strong hands. Thanks!
Love this type of content, earned a new sub, much tks.
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Another nice video, but ... I'm missing Denice the Menace !!!😜Personnaly i find the fisrt four good. Where I have concern is with the tripple broadway board. Depending of the Vilain I may call river !
THIS has been the video I've been looking for. I've been trying to find ways to know when to "overfold to aggression" and these scenarios are perfect examples.
Btw, I tried to apply for the Hungry Horse bootcamp, but it says that there's no availability in July. When will you guys do the next round of interviews?
thank you i’m glad you enjoyed!! we are most likely not going to do a bootcamp for august as we focus on building out a new program for fall. shoot us your email and we’ll make sure you’re first in line.
Played cards for 35 years, really enjoy your input and analysis.
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Great content, Marc. I’m primarily an MTT player but want to give credit where it’s due! Great content for a community that may not be able to totally understand it 😅😅
Thought process and live going through the node locking is really cool. Hope the channel blows up!
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Need to watch this one a couple more times :)
Nice video as always! About the BB 3bet range being more tight than GTO, I'm adjusting preflop by calling/4betting as if were one position to the left (If I'm on the button, I react as if I were the cutoff). If I'm doing this exploit preflop, Do I still need to overfold and under raise the flop?
Thx a lot again for this massive +EV content.
yes, i wouldn’t think of it as one position to the left. id think of it as they are under 3b by such an order of magnitude (3-5x less than equilibrium) that you need to drastically shift your strategy in response
@@hungryhorsepokeroh ok. Thx for the reply. All of these is assuming villain is a weak reg/fish right? On my pool BB regs are 3betting vs BTN a 9% of the time compared to the 14% of GTO, so we adapt by being overly tight.
mustache suits you! i love your vids btw, beginning my live poker journey again after not really playing in 10 years. mid life crisis i guess lol.
Great video. With these types of videos, I recommend that you break it up into chapters and list the 5 in the notes. I only counted 4 and I feel like I'm missing something very important 🙂
love this format
Nice work 👏👏👏
Miss ya on hustler too
what app and where can i get it please?
Wow this is an amazing video.
Don't agree with all your ranges and think yoou overdid it to get the point across but overall still accurate I would say.
would this apply to online poker as well (low stakes in particular) or no?
yes
in the first hand how is villain's KQo indifferent vs turn barrel?
I was with you until the last example, but you're probably right that a fold is in order even with a set. Awesome content
Always amazes me how you can fit all your topics into a 20 mins vid
i’m obsessed with condensing the most info possible into the simplest terms into the least amount of time
is this solver output assuming its a heads up hand? Or is it somehow taking into account this went like 6 ways to a flop? If its not, then shouldnt we be folding even tighter than the video suggests?
uhhh, these are all heads up hands
@@hungryhorsepoker on the turn it was heads up but on the flop you bet into several players. You even said you bet on the smaller side because it was multi-way
Thx Marc. Great again! Hope you are not at my table!!!
if i am u can kiss me
Thanks a lot
I have a feeling the board might come J92 could be wrong
amazing info
Great video.
But to be even better you would need to adapt the node to the villains behaviour. I d never fold my set of 10 to a recrational player for example who will overplay his two pairs or top pair.
Dumb question but what program is this?
hold em manager 3
I'm confused about the last? (I don't know, I haven't watched the video to the end, but the TT vs. UTG open) hand.
I get these programs work on a range vs. range assumption but how can this program provide practical playing information when it still assumes villain can have TT when we have TT and flop a set? -how is that not nonsense?
If you show the result of MDA to support your opinion, this video makes sense because it can be evidence.
But what you did is to create formula which support your opinions and show it to us.
It is same as you repeated your opinion without supporting facts.
Moreover, A high board explanation seems strange to me.
On the Turn, you deleted unintuitive bluff which somewhat make sense but you didn’t touch bluffs from KJ and KT which solver does low frequency but people do high frequency because they are intuitive.
You node locked only to get what you wanted.
im calling with 10s depending on player type. there are some aggro mfers in the world that triple off with kj in that last example. 10s too strong to fold. but easy to fold in the river spot
In the last example, folding a set of 10s, the fold only becomes correct when you don't give them all the offsuit combos of KQ as a bet, which I think they will have since even the worst players have seen a UTG opening chart and it's the easiest one to memorize. I think they would also have a combo of Q10 and K10 that would bet sometimes. Seems like we actually beat too much value to fold, no? Nitpicking that specific spot aside, great content as always!
the thing is - even at equilibrium TT is indifferent! i’m intrigued though if we give them a bunch worse for value, could be slightly profitable.
Where are you getting the villain calling and raising data from?
im not really sure what you’re asking? the preflop ranges are equilibrium 200bb ranges we solved for.
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0:44 How is pocket Aces the second best hand in poker? ...
think about it
@@hungryhorsepoker I did, couldn't really find an answer, so I asked. Why? Because it's so tempting to overplay? Because it often gets a lot of folds pre-flop since it blocks a lot of Ax hands? Dunno, you tell me.
15" POKER HAAAAARRRRDDD
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Why is pocket aces the second best hand in poker? I thought it's the best hand pre flop. 0:45
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I love the video! But I have to say, folding TT on that board when I think most people tripple AK and KQ is really hard gold to find I’d have to have a read
if they’re massively underbluffing (they are here) every bluff catcher is more profitable as a fold than call. even if some of their value beats ours.
but he's saying that we beat some of the value @@hungryhorsepoker
Some timestamps please
Holy shit, 200bb poker is so grossly nitty man. I cannot believe that TT, QQ and KK are basically pure check backs after just two streets of value in the last example! What goes from easy value bets 100bb deep becomes extremely nitty/weird polar bear shit OTR, omg.
I would raise 10s set to see where im at. If they flop the broadway then they will either shove or raise
i would love to play poker with you
On the river a pair of ace's is just a one pair hand.
lol Ben got a kick outta being in the first hand. EZ fold vs Ben nh lol😂
Folding bottom set there is insanity.
I agree that it’s underbluffed but I also think people overestimate their hand strength. You didn’t have the offsuit combo of KQ, QT and KT.
correct. because they’re either a good reg or a fish.
1) good regs don’t open these hands from utg - so it’s a fold.
2) fish may open these hands (but most likely limp / don’t open some of them), but even then fish are bluffing 1247x less than good regs so even with those offsuit hands…. it’s probably still not a profitable call.
awesome
like even if one outa five player will find theese bluffs, still not worth...and well done.
Hmm 🤔
1. The algorithm also likes comments.
2. The dealer mistake in not flopping you top set with the world's favorite flop... everything I knew was wrong.
If you never call, how would you know it's under bluff?
Liked before watched. J92!
bless u
Is that fold why you haven't been back on hcl? 🤣
maybe!
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Man I can't believe TT would be 76% fold even with your adjustments there. KQ, KT, QT seem like value bets on that river so that makes it an auto call no? Mind you i never played higher than 2/5 live.
So we find these bluff lines in our game ?
Does that mean we should overbluff in these spots?
just because you know something, doesn’t mean your opponent does - be careful with this. your opponents aren’t gonna be like - omg 3 broadway board this spot is underbluffed so i shall fold bottom set.
@@hungryhorsepoker yea they are such donkeys 😤😤
No J92 flop??!!
o it will be back next week!
Oh my god the disgusting fold with TT. I cant even imagine the level of bravery one must have to fold that. Poker is not for the weak…
wutever makes the most $$!
This stuff is worth paying for. I hope it blows up so he can make money. I hope it doesn’t so I can use it 😂
thank you 😂😂
Why do you say that pocket aces are the SECOND best hand in poker?
Because they aren't suited
Seems like a self-fulling prophecy. You changed the vilain range to never bluffs, than run the solver that tells you that since vilain never bluff you should fold.
no. i estimated that villains do not find triple barrels with non intuitive bluffs. you have to plan these from the flop. most don’t.
I’m only wondering where ur getting ur frequency data from
@@hungryhorsepokerthe last hand did you only nodelock the river because if so idk whether the silver plays KQ as a pure bet flop bet turn hand but low stakes villains are going to bet that at a very very high frequency and that could change our calling maybe a little bit
@@Darealmclovin47you dont "know the frequency" of every villain in every spot, you take your experience of how villains play, estimate how theyre range plays, and learn the general way to counter theyre tendencies. Poker doesnt boil down to 74.8884% in reality
@@zenpool5918It's rare to see such an intelligent thought so poorly written out.
GW Carver - it was actually President Ben Franklin. Get it right.
o thank u!
So when we bluff we shiuld be using these lines against aware players who will find them to be strong?
sure, if you're playing 500nl + online or 10/20+ live against a reg!
Bro you should be charging for these insights
poker vloggers love to overuse the word "here"
they can't help it
the sound
effect has got to go, otherwise nice vid
teach people where to overbluff
very sad and boring to play poker in games where you have to fold every time someone breathes
marc. what happened to the absurd subscribing offers? like if i’m gonna subscribe i at least want the chance for u to give me your beard trimmings if i show you im subscribed😞
ok ill bring them back