Lanshan 1 backpacking tents - try these 16 modifications
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- How to improve your Lanshan 1 backpacking tent, in 16 easy steps. Number 14 is the best!
These are my suggestions for ways to enhance a Lanshan 1 tent, based on months of development and testing using the tent in all weathers in the UK.
The Lanshan 1 is a great tent, and I hope these will help you to enjoy using it even more.
Let me know how they work for you. I'm also interested to hear any suggestions that you have for different ideas.
*update 4/4/2024 - carbon poles for the sides are available here: www.bearbonesbikepacking.co.u...
Inner tensioning bungees instructions:
1. I took a deep breath, then I cut small slits in the tube about 4mm wide (being careful not to cut the stitching) with a very sharp small craft knife/scalpel blade. The top cut was just below the pull-out attachment point, and the bottom slit was just above the joint with the bathtub/floor.
2. I sealed around the slits with a small amount of glue in order to prevent the fabric from fraying.
3. I used bungee that is around 2.5mm diameter; anything larger won't fit inside the tube. I heated the first few centimeters of the bungee with a flame (carefully) to make it slightly stiffer and hence easier to slide inside the tube, and then trimmed off the end with a sharp knife so that it was tidy and wouldn't snag the inside of the tube. I have since tried using 1.5mm Dyneema instead, but it was too small and too smooth
4. I slid the bungee inside one slit, along inside the tube, and out of the other slit, put on the cord grips, and trimmed the length so that the bungee when 'relaxed' was the same length as the seam.
5. I used very small cordgrips at each end of the bungee, but you could probably get away with using only 1, and a large knot at the other end.
6. I stood back and admired my handiwork with smug pride ;-)
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Introduction
1. Guylines
2. Door Bungees
3. Door Bungee clips
4. 5th guyline marker
5. Side poles
6. Catenary lines
7. 'Flying' porch doors
8. Pole clips
9. Inner apex clip & tie
10. Inner tensioning bungees
11. Linking inner & outer
12. Clothes pegs for doors
13. Polycro footprint
14. Corner connections
15. Guyline tidies
16. Airing system
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Charles, your modifications have transformed my shiny new Lanshan 1 from a nice tent into a great tent, particularly your recommendation to configure the footprint, inner and fly to pitch as one. GENIUS! My Lanshan hasn’t left my garden yet but now it’s Charles-powered I’m confident it will give me many nights of pleasure this spring and summer. So a massive thank you!
Wow Graham, that’s really kind of you 😊
I’m so pleased that you like my suggestions, and it makes it so much more worthwhile to receive comments like yours. Thanks!!
You, sir are a genius! This needs to go viral. Watching it I imagined that your day job must be in engineering building suspension bridges and the like! I have the Lanshan 2 and implemented some of your mods which helped on WHW and C2C where it performed excellently. It's just great to have all that space. Best ~£125 I ever spent! I did look at the Pro version too but didn't think the minimal weight saving was worth the problems with condensation touching my gear etc.
My family might disagree with you, but it's great to know that other people share my interest in customising the tents! And I'll happily spend time modifying such a great value tent rather than paying exorbitant amounts for USA imports that doesn't really suit UK conditions.
And I agree with you about the Pro version; any weight saving could quickly be lost by having damp gear methinks.
Super-clever mods! Many thanks for sharing them so clearly and concisely! Love the illustrative arrows!
Thanks! Hope some of there will work for you 😊
What a great video with some very creative modifications to optimize the Lanshan 1! Thank you for making this video!!
You’re very welcome! I hope some of the modifications will work out well for you 🙂
Fantastic tips. By far the best videos about the Lanshan. Thanks to you I have ordered the tent (I'm a complete wildcamping newbie). Now I'm waiting for good weather to finally use it....
Oh wow thanks, that’s fantastic to hear! 😁
It’s a great tent. There’s a knack to pitching it; th-cam.com/video/wUUPi_2xTqs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ePCOlLXaI1HHSbf2
So intelligent. You, sir, should design your own tent with these amazing concepts
Maybe one day! Thanks!! :-)
Best Lanshan 1 mods video I've seen! Thank you
Thanks!! Hope some of the ideas work for you 🙂
Excellent! Thanks - will use, as your earlier tips already were spot on! (and duly tested in stormy northern Sweden)
Wow, stormy North Sweden sounds like a serious test for any tent!!
I'm very pleased (and relieved) that the mods worked well for you :-D
Gold star! The reference ‘how to’ for pitching this tent. Many thanks for posting this, I think I’ll be treating myself to one before long now!
Aw thanks *blush* I'm pleased it was useful!
One of the best modification videos of all time! very thorough and well thought out. A lot of these translate to all other tents. Many thanks for sharing. AAA+++
Aw, thanks 😊 It's very gratifying to hear that; much appreciated
You Sir are to Modifications of tents to what Felix Immler is to Swiss Army Knives 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽
Wow, that is big praise!! :-D
These are brilliant ideas!
Thanks! Hope some of them will work for you 🙂
This video is absolutely amazing. My Lanshan is coming in soon and I will be using all these modifications! Many thanks.
Aw, thanks! It’s really great for me to hear that. Good luck!
Check out my tips for pitching it, too;
Using a Lanshan 1 backpacking tent? Try these! Tips & tricks for the perfect pitch every time
th-cam.com/video/wUUPi_2xTqs/w-d-xo.html
Great video
Thanks!
Fantastic tips..thanks chap..
Thanks; much appreciated :-)
I'm really enjoying your videos. They are so well made and thoughtfull!!! And now i see you got also a Lanshan 1, wich is what i already use. I will do defenitly your Tips and tricks! Tomorrow is my first Lanshan 2 coming. I'm very happy that i finally got one on a sale 😅. At the moment i'm sick and your videos really help me to feel better and i'm looking forward to my future hikes. Thank you so much!😊
Thanks!! I'm so pleased that you liked the tips :-D and the video helped you whilst you're sick. Hope you are better soon and can get out end enjoy using the tents!!
Very creative! Thx for sharing!
Thanks. 🙏
Awesome video! Thank you so much! Greetings from Germany. Can‘t wait to set up my Lanshan for the first time
Thanks. You’re welcome 🙂
Great hacks, thank you and just ordered mine.
Thanks! Hope you like the tent. Check out my pitching suggestions, too: th-cam.com/video/wUUPi_2xTqs/w-d-xo.html
going there right now Sir, thank you@@longsufferinghiker
You are the tent guru. I've just got this tent. Very pleased with it. I shall add most of these mods, cheers
Thanks!! I hope the tent and the mods work well for you :-)
Some nice tips, thank you
All the best
Clive
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Thanks Clive. I'm pleased they were useful for you.
Fantastic.
Many thanks!
Thanks for taking the time to make this very useful video .
I’ve only just recently purchased my Lanshan 1 and am planning my first local trip soon before hopefully using it on the Anglesey coastal path 👍
Glad it is useful to you :-)
Have a great time in Anglesey. I've checked out the path, as it looks very nice; let me know how you get on!
Thanks for the great hacks Charles. I've used some of these from past videos. And now have more work to do. If I may add a couple more: There is a loop on the top of the bathtub by the pole. Attach a bungy to the loop and run it up the pole and attach. How you attach may vary do to differences in poles, but your clips might work nicely. Now your tub stands up, helps keep dirt and muck out, yet is flexible for easy entry and exit. I also carry 3 cheap plastic alligator clips that I can attach to the outside bottom middle of the 3 walls. With cordage and stakes I can then bring the walls down very tight when needed. Thanks again.
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Thanks; I like the suggestion for keeping the tub side raised, and I'll be giving it a try.
Also I like your idea of controlling the lower edges of the sides, but I've had mixed results with 'crocodile' style clips in the past, which is why I now use the round attachments. I've gone into more detail about them in my follow-up video th-cam.com/video/FewWBUnrueQ/w-d-xo.html
Полезное видео. Пригодиться, если всё-таки решусь приобрести Lanshan.
Thanks!!
I'm buying the Lanshan 1 plus tomorrow... these are great Mods... especially the over roof dyneema cords to pull out guy points
Thanks; I hope they work out for you, and you enjoy the tent!
Some very good tips and tricks. I have a pile of 6.2mm carbon arrows I can cut and make some mini struts, great idea... 😉
That’s a stroke of luck!
Excellent, clear video: thank you
Tip 17 is for if you lose your way back home, use the Egyptian (I think) labarynthian technic and simply tie the cords end to end and unravel as you go E&OE
Genius :-D
Hey great vids... So I've been trying various mods. Your vids hace been great avd I've used many.. I thought it would be worth mentioning last night I was caught in a storm. I used various techniques and I had double pegged. The side I used the catenary line principle (did it with on tie out from the top) was rock solid still. Whilst tge others including the trekking pole side which fell over were not so great. The storm was viscious and the winds hitting from all sides. We had to bail in the end. I also had 12 inch dd pegs. So a proper test. I'll be using that method for all the side tie outs now. Thanks again.
Thanks Danny; I'm really pleased that some of the modifications have worked out well for you! And in particular I'm extremely happy that the catenary line idea was a success in the storm; it sounds like you gave it a very thorough test. I've tried it our a lot myself, and it has always worked well for me, but it means a lot to me that it has worked well for you, too. Thanks for letting me know; it put a bit smile on my face this afternoon, and my wife says that I'm looking even more smug than usual ;-)
I use the pretent soloist one man tent, similar to the lanshan 1, and I have implemented some of your modifications on this tent also, thanks very much for your advice.
Thanks! I always liked the look of the Pretents Soloist, especially the neat door design - how do you get on with it?
The door design was what attracted me to it, my friend has the lanshan 1 and i liked it very much and was thinking on buying one, but earlier this year I got the chance to buy the soloist. It has been good in the wind and rain as long as it is set up right, that is why i implemented some of your changes. There is not as much room as the Lanshan so for a bigger person you would struggle for size, I am 5ft 7 and fit it fine but maybe 5ft 10 and above would struggle. There are four configurations to the the door that are good and give great flexibility. I believe that i can use the Lanshan 1 four season inner for it.
Keep your videos coming they are always very good to watch with great content.
You sir are a legend
Thanks mate. Try telling that to my wife 😊😊
Thanks for another great video Charles! 😀
I have applied many of your mods from the Lanshan 2 video to my Lanshan 1 already. Great to have a dedicated Lanshan 1 mods video as well now.
The catenary line is a great idea which I will try as soon as I get round to buying some extra cordage.
I have the Lanshan 1 factory footprint, but prefer not to have it permanently attached to the tent. Having the footprint available separately is handy for site selection; you can see if the tent will fit in a selected spot by laying out the footprint and can then fine tune your placement easily relative to whatever is on the ground. I often lie down on the footprint to "test" the spot. Easy to detect & remove any sticks or stones underneath before starting the pitch. The footprint is also often damp underneath when you pack up in the morning. Convenient to be able to detach it to dry instead of stuffing it in with the rest of the tent.
My setup is almost identical to yours, I just don't have the footprint cords tied to the outer straps. Instead each cord has a loop at the end to attach to a peg. With the footprint pegged out, the tent goes on top and the bathtub gets clipped to the footprint at the corners. The pegs are already in place, so it is quick to hook on the outer straps and stick in the pole.
If I do need to do a quick pitch in bad weather, I can still get everything up in one go by just clipping the footprint to the tent before starting the pitch. One extra step vs your set-up though.
Fortunately we have sufficient good weather days here in South Africa that I don't need to pitch in bad weather often. 😎
In other areas of the world, like the Western Highlands of Scotland where good weather has a different meaning, a fast pitch is required more frequently. I have not used a Lanshan there, but It remains one of my favourite mountaineering areas. Unfortunately it has been a long time since I had the pleasure of visiting Scotland.
Stay safe, Regards Hans
Thanks Hans; it's great to hear from you, and I'm very jealous of the weather you get in South Africa! My latest trip was on the Welsh border when we have very mixed conditions and it was very helpful to get the tent up & down quickly. My friend was using his Hilleberg Soulo, which was a lot slower to set up, heavier, and less spacious inside then my Lanshan 2. Not to mention the price!
I'm intrigued by your approach to setting out the footprint first; it will definitely help to get a nice pitch position, and I might give it a try. I usually lay out my poles where I want to be sleeping, and that helps position the tent correctly. I have also thought of perhaps a small spirit level on the poles to make sure ;-)
I'm really pleased that the mods have worked for you. As it happens, I'm currently working on using some of these ideas in a follow-up modifications video for the Lanshan 2, including the Catenary line.
Let me know if you're visiting the UK any time soon!
@@longsufferinghiker It will be interesting to see how you implement the Catenary line for the Lanshan 2. I don't own a Lanshan 2, so can't test if my guess will work; will have to wait for your video. I would love to visit the black Cuillin on Isle of Skye again (in good weather). Unfortunately I doubt if a visit to the UK will happen any time soon for me; SA Rand is just too weak against foreign currency. 😕
At least there are several TH-camrs who put up videos of their adventures in the Highlands so that I can travel virtually. 🙂
super
Thank you
No10, genius
Aw, thanks!! Hope it works well for you 🙂
@@longsufferinghiker I've been researching what tent to buy for the Pembrokeshire coast path and I'm not keen on single skin tents and I was 90% sure the Lanshan 1 was the tent for me but now with these mods it's No 1 on my list so thank you.
@@longsufferinghiker can I ask, for you would it be the Lanshan 1 or the Night cat or any other 1kg tent. Budget about £150 and I like the slightly bigger inner that these offer over some other 1kg tents
The Pembrokeshire Coast Path is gorgeous; a good choice :-)
I reviewed the Night Cat: th-cam.com/video/wDL7pk3vvns/w-d-xo.html but I would prefer the 3F UL Gear over the Night Cat because it can have a 4 season inner (better for the UK), and has a 'T' zip which makes life much easier and more spacious.
If you like to have more space then I would seriously consider the Lanshan 2; the extra 150g weight (1060g v. 910g) gives you a massive increase in interior space, and 2 vestibules.
@@longsufferinghiker I love the 2 but pitch size may be an issue on the walk plus I like the double skin and the 2 if I'm right is a single skin... ?
That helped a lot! Thanks!
What cord and bungee do you use?
Glad it helped!!
For the cord I use 2mm diameter Dyneema. It’s easily strong enough. Just make sure you use cleats to suit the small diameter.
For the door bungee I use 3 or 4mm diameter because you need good tension strength.
For the inner tension bungees 2mm diameter is fine; fits well inside the seam.
Good luck!
These tips are really nice for lanshan user.
Could you please let me know the size of ground sheet?
Thanks. For the footprint dimensions you could simply just measure the size of the inner, or use the dimensions on the 3F UL Gear website: 3fultralight.com/product/3f-ul-gear-lanshan-1-tent-footprint-groundsheet-original-silnylon-ground-cloth-21095cm/
v good ok so what ideas would you do to a t zip inner cloudpeak2 and soe of those would work better simpler with shock cord instead the dyneemoo :)
Funnily enough, I’m working on a mods video for the Cloud Peak 😁. It’s a great tent already, but s few ideas make it easier to set up. It might take a while to appear; there are a couple of other videos from the Hebridean Way and Cleveland Way to appear first.
@@longsufferinghiker will kp eye out..
Thanks, that was helpful. I'm thinking of buying a Lanshan 1.
Have you got any thoughts on the mesh vs the solid inner? I'm not planning to winter camp in a Lanshan, but I've camped on a windy site in a different tent with mesh sides, and it was cold due to the wind blasting through the tent walls.
Do you recommend the solid inner for a bit of draught proofing? The weight difference and cost is negligible. Thakns, Sarah
Hi Sarah. That's a good question and, coincidentally, I touched on this in my latest video reviewing a 'Night Cat' Lanshan 1 which has the mesh inner th-cam.com/video/wDL7pk3vvns/w-d-xo.html
If you're in the UK, then I recommend the 4 season inner. It still has a healthy amount of mesh on the door for ventilation, but the solid sides make it much more versatile and suitable for a wider variety of weather conditions. I prefer it also because it feels more cosy!
Of course, you could get yourself both the 3 season and 4 season inners, to keep your options open? :-)
I'd also recommend considering the Lanshan 2, mainly because there is so much more room inside. You'll appreciate it if you're camping in the rain, or in conditions when you'll be spending a lot of time in the tent.
Thanks for that 🙂. I'll watch your night cat video, thanks for the recommendation. Yes, UK based, and planning to do the West Highland Way next year, so I'm weighing up (pun intended!) Both the Lanshan 1 and 2.
I believe the weight difference is 1220g for the L2 and 930g for the L1, so 290g extra.
I like that the L1 is lighter and smaller and maybe easier to find a place to pitch because of that, but I will have a think about the L2 as Scotland gets a bit of weather, and being stuck in a tiny tent in the rain will be a bit miserable!
Thanks for getting back to me, happy travels.
Hi great video, it may be a silly question but which knots are best to use for the bungee cord on the doors? Im also planning to put bungee on the inner tent peg outs as well. Is a bowline ok?
That's a very good question!
For the door bungees I used a reef knot.
Any other times when you want to create a loop the bowline is perfect. It's my favourite know (if there is such a thing...) and use a bowline for the ends of all my guylines.
@@longsufferinghiker Brilliant thank you.
Brilliant video! I'm struggling with choosing between the Lanshan 1 and the Durston Xmid 1P; do you have any thoughts on how the two tents compare? Is the Lanshan 1 really suitable as an all weather tent? Could I ask what the worst conditions you have camped in the Lanshan 1 are?
Hi David. That's an interesting dilemma!
The Durston has a lot going for it: very lightweight, good quality, neat design, sits lower to the ground, and the 2 vestibules make it much more spacious and practical than the Lanshan 1. But in my opinion the mesh inner makes it less suited to UK 4 season use; the solid inner on the Lanshan will be much warmer in cold/windy conditions.
I have used the Lanshan 1 in heavy rain and wind, and it coped with them brilliantly; the shape makes it very capable in the wind. However there's no getting away from the fact that it's very compact inside, and 2/3 of the inner is in close proximity to the outer. I wouldn't want to use it in winter when you'll be spending many hours in the tent, and won't be able to make much use of the vestibule.
My choice for 4 season use is the Lanshan 2 with a 4 season inner. It is a bit heavier, but it's very spacious, and has 2 vestibules.
Might the price point be a consideration too?
@@macewindupage The price point is a consideration in the sense of why pay more if the Lanshan will do what I need, which is provide shelter in fair weather conditions on one or two night wildcamping trips.
Can I ask where you bought your Lanshan?
You can order them via Amazon, but there a UK distributor - Colin Pollard - who's very helpful:
outdoorgearessentials.co.uk/collections/3ful-lanshan-tents
Just got my first one and working on these mods. One thing however I've been told all those guide ropes attached to the top loop of the tent will cause it to break. Would appreciate your thoughts on this please.
That's a legitimate concern, however that top guyline loops are designed to take a lot of strain from the guylines, and are reinforced well.
If the tent is pitched well and doesn't flap around then the strain on the guyline attachments is constant and manageable.
I've used my Lanshan tents with these modifications for over 80 nights so far in all kind of rough conditions, and there is still no sign of any weakness or problem, so I'm sure you'll be fine.
Good luck!
@@longsufferinghiker thank you for the speedy reply and your honesty. Thinking about attaching the front and back guides differently to less the strain.
Can I ask how tall you are? I have read comments that 6 foot (1.8M)is too tall. wondering if those modifications to the foot and head make it feasible.
I am 5'10" tall.
The inner is 230cm long (90 inches / 7'6") so yes, it should be long enough, BUT the inner roof slopes down, so the gap above your head is lower at each end & the available space will depend on the thickness of your sleeping mat etc. if you see what I mean? It also seems small inside because of the sloping back wall. My suggestion would be to opt for the Lanshan 2, which has significantly more interior space for a 300g weight difference.
I’m 6”4 and i fit fine
is a lanshan 1 more wind resistant than a 2 men version?
I've taken a few days to reply, because you really got me thinking! :-) In fact, this could be the subject of a whole new video...
It depends on whether you're interested in wind resistance, or in performance in strong winds, but both tents have shapes that shed the wind very nicely and the walking poles are far stronger that any flexible tent poles (i.e. better than many hooped tents).
The shape of the L1 means it has slightly less wind resistance, especially if pitched with the open side facing away from the wind. But the 2/3 of the inner of the L1 is in close proximity to the outer, so there will be a lot of buffeting inside the tent.
The slab sides of the L2 can catch the wind, but if you pitch the tent with the vestibule facing the wind then it's not so much of a problem. And the 2 pole structure is a lot more sturdy. Plus you can set the poles on the windward side lower (I've gone as low as 110cm), to reduce the gap under the flysheet at that side.
I tend to put my pack and wet gear in the windward vestibule of the L2, too. which keeps it out of the way and helps block the wind a bit.
Plus the L2 has vastly more interior space, which makes life much easier in bad weather.
But whichever tent you choose, I strongly suggest doing my suggested modifications to the main guylines, which make them much stronger...
What do you think?
I confess I’m new to the backpacking ultralight but this seems crazy to buy tent needs to be completely modified is not a good indication that the design is not may be the best option?
I completely agree. It’s strange that the manufacturers have not made changes to the design. But remember that it is extremely good value compared to most lightweight alternatives, and most of my suggested modifications are quick and cheap.
I put the dishwasher in the back so it's easier to get in.
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I am 167cm and have a small ninja 8 years old. Wonder if at a squeeze we would. It’s fit.
I think the Lanshan 1 will be a very tight squeeze! But the Lanshan 2 will be fine, and there are 2 big vestibules for your gear, too.
@@longsufferinghiker ace thanks!