With over 50 years of backpacking experience, I have owned LOTS of equipment. I bought the Lanshan 2 tent about two years ago and now it's my 'go to' tent. It packs small. Large interior. Light weight for the price. I have used the tent on top of Virgina mountains to Tennessee lowlands to the streams of my home state, Alabama. I love this tent. Due to my past misadventures I silicon sprayed the entire tent twice before using it. In April while walking on the Black Creek Trail in southern Mississippi we endured a 5 hour massive rainstorm. Even with the tent being battered by high wind it never leaked a drop. (Black Creek flooded by 8' and we had to bail off the trail). In camp, I find two sticks about 9" long. I use them to slide at each tent end between the ground and the staked-out guys to pull the rainfly slightly vertically. This pulls the tent floor upward and reduces the sagging in the mesh. I have a few expensive backpacking items but I am not one to spend a lot of money on name brand equipment. I highly recommend the Lanshan 2 tent for any camping trip.
You do an excellent job of pointing out that everyone has their own set of priorities for their gear. The price, weight, durability triangle is very individual specific.
I have the lanshan 2Pro it’s never leaked. Love this tent!!! It’s best to set it up when you seam seal it. That way everything is stretched and you can get it sealed much better. Plus it’s easier to make sure you don’t miss anything.
@@revbombtoast I dont have the tent myself but a google search tells me the difference is the netting. 3 season uses standard mesh like just about every tent out there. 4 season uses mostly a breathable nylon fabric instead. Which will be less breathable but will add some warmth to your tent. Good for winter but not as good for summer.
It helps a lot to thin the silicone with mineral spirits. Much easier to work with but also flows into the seam more readily and provides a more reliable seal.
Mineral spirits will deteriorate synthetic materials over time, mainly the tent fibres and the sewing threads. You’ll see yellowing sooner than you expect.
Wood Chip - I haven’t experienced that using the silicon sealant and mineral spirits with silnylon and silpoly over multiple shelters and repeated applications. I would stress that this approach only works with siliconized fabrics, and if you are using nylon with an inner waterproof coating, rather than one impregnated with silicon, you need to use a different appropriate seam sealant. Cheers.
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Dixie, I am wondering if actually you do have an interest in a four season inner. Just a thought about your aversion to cold. If a mesh tent gives you a 2-3 degree increase Fahrenheit, a 4-season might give you 6 to 8. A further idea is to cut the 4-season nylon from its bath tub floor and alter it with holes as need (seam seal the edge of cut out holes) to be a drape over the mesh tent on very cold 3-season nights. An afterthought: it might be interesting to see what happens with a 4-season inner vis-a-vis your allergy issue. One thing that happens when you sleep on the ground is breathing concentrations of air that has interacted with the ground and contains particles thereof.
I used the L2 when I started hiking and loved it, the net hanging in your face and hair f'ed with me too, but I found that if you prop a 3-4 foot stick under the side guy line, it will lift the net up pretty well and away from your head. Great review!
Love the creative editing! Nice review. I bought the non pro version a few years ago. My husband and I use it when backpacking together. We didn’t notice the doors being a problem even though they are on opposite ends and we sleep head to head. Also, about to clip system for the vestibule area- I just leave one loop unclipped. The part I use to open and close I don’t ever clip. When it’s zipped down it stays fine.
I started out on a budget and bought the Lanshan 2 and absolutely love it! I'll be thru-hiking the AT next year and I can see it doing an amazing job for the trip! The fussiness with setup gets a lot easier after doing it over and over. You learn a few little tricks to make it a lot simpler everytime. I still don't see how I would set it up without the rainfly though. maybe have to play around with it a little more.
Me too! I love mine, I ordered a set of vestibule door hooks for a zpacks duplex and they were cheap and so much easier to use. I also finally ponied up for the 4 season inner and it turns out to be lighter than the three season! Best wishes on the AT next year, when you get to Luray in Shenandoah check out the Open Arms hostile. A lady named Allison runs it, she’s great, it’s very clean and a lot of bang for the buck!
Flip your trekking poles over and loop some cordage through the corner hooks and around the spike, peg out at a 45 degree angle, as if you were setting up a tarp ⛰️
My main tent is the Lanshan 1 Pro (1lb 8oz), and I highly recommend it for anyone who doesnt need all that room. Its the poor mans Gossamer Gear The One. Uses 1 pole, so I use the 2nd to give more head or foot space with those tie outs. I also have the Lanshan 2 for trips with my girlfriend and it works great, but she's also only 5 feet tall. But we fit fine with gear in the vestibule.
The Lanshan 2 Pro has a larger interior space and is lighter than Lanshan 2, so it looks good. Lanshan 2 has a PU coating on the inside of the flysheet, so seam sealing tape reconstruction must be done every 5 years, but it has a double wall structure, so it is strong against condensation. As a result, the Lanshan 2 Pro has two weaknesses. The first is more expensive than Lanshan, and the second is single-walled fly, so there is condensation inside.
I'd go for the heavier 4 season inner because we only get 1 hour of darkness in summer and anything that helps me get some sleep is worth the weight! Most of my tents have dark-coloured solid inners for exactly that reason. Plus we have a cool climate that can dip below freezing at any time of year so extra insulation is good too.
Love you channel. I am a recent subscriber who has worked a far way through the wealth of information in your past videos. I want to say thank you for turning me on to trekking poles. I Hike in the Australian bush and in my area then means navigating lots of sandstone gullies and ledges. Trekking poles are wonderful for navigating up and down the steep tracks as well as along the narrow paths along the rock ledges. Also I figure they will be handy in snake season when it's a good idea to regularly tap the ground and wave a stick out in front. The idea being the tapping alerts snakes and the stick out in front is hopefully what they will strike at.
9:30 there is no need to hook both sides of the door to this hook, like it may on a Duplex. Just hook one side permantly, and open and close the other with the zipper. You will never have to mess with this hook again.
I am 198cm and was wondering if it would be long enough. Do you ever hit your head or feet on the fly? I was thinking I could set the sleep pad diagonal.
Trick with pitching the lanshan 2 is to just peg out the fly points. Then when you've got it right, just walk around the tent once, reaching in underneath to grab the inner bungee or cord and just loop it over the pegs to stretch out the bath tub. It's only a bit tricky if you're in a very small lumpy space or you're trying to pitch into sandy or rocky ground, although it's never fallen down on me, so you can do it it's just a bit of extra work, as Dixie says. After a while you can eyeball exactly where you would put in the initial pegs for the corners to get a good pitch first time every time. The inner mesh isn't under any tension so there's nothing really stopping your sleeping bag pressing right up against the rain fly and getting damp. I sleep diagonally to help avoid this.
I’ve been using my Lanshan 2 for 2 years now I like it. It is finicky to set up the first few times but I was able to figure out what works for me. Mine leaked slightly at the wall tie outs. A little seam seal and she good to go now. For the weight and price I thinks it’s a good option for those of us who don’t get out a lot. If you’re on a budget give it a try
Great job explaining the subtle and not so subtle differences between these two tents. I have the 2 Pro and love it. I did have it seam sealed by 3Ful. I was a little put out that they would dare ship a tent that was "incomplete" with regard to sealed seems, but.................... that's just me. It was only $35, so that's that. Keep up the great work. I have enjoyed your videos for years. Your easy demeanor, experience and knowledge make your videos a real pleasure to watch. Best regards from Largo, FL.
Hi Dixie. Long time follower. War Eagle! We have the Flame ‘s Creed which is just the green version of the lanshan. Switched out the line tighteners for a simpler fastener. We always setup the rainfly and then clip the mesh tent into it. For two people it’s about a pound each but a little cramped width wise at 45 inches. For weight and price you can’t beat it. Been using it for 2 years section hiking the AT and not a single problem. Wouldn’t trade it.
Just bought myself a Lanshan 2 so I can backpack with my pups and not have to worry about them escaping while I sleep as opposed to my tarp tent I have. I’m so excited to use it! Thank you for bringing this tent to my attention; it’s the perfect solution for my needs.
I have the lanshan 2 pro. I seam sealed. Replaced the door hooks with zpacks hooks and added a shock cord pull at the head and foot ends to pull the bathtub up. It works great. My two teenage boys used it on our last camping trip and if they closed both doors the condensation was pretty bad. If they left one door open on each side it wasn't bad at all. Condensation can be a problem if you have 2 people breathing in it all night. Great video.
This has probably already been said but you can buy the 4 season inner for the Lanshan 2 separately and just swap the inners. This gives you a great option for both 3 and 4 season use.
I've used my Lanshan 2 a couple of times now and I love this tent over all. It is by far the lightest weight tent I've ever carried and it is great! My biggest issue with it has been the area I go camping, I live in Northwest Arkansas and the ground around here is more rocks than dirt sometimes. In extremely rocky areas I've bent a few of the stakes and once been unable to get a few stakes in at all due to the only flat area being too rocky and I had to resort to tying off the unstake-able portions to trees. That worked well enough but was annoying. Just keep in mind that with tents like these if you can't stake them down they don't work almost at all.
Check out how to stake out tents with rocks! I've done so more than a dozen times with the Lanshan 2 in the rocky, hard ground of the Sierras, and its worked great. TH-cam has plenty of vids on it :)
FWIW, zpacks sells the hooks from their tents, and some lanshan owners have indeed replaced their hooks with the zpacks ones. I bought a set, but the ramshead style ones on the lanshan didn't end up bothering me, so I haven't gotten around to installing them.
Dixie, thank you for your dedicated summary of the two tents in question, I find their inner should be re-tensioned and sewn or sewing glued, since that slack is not necessary. Keep up the very good work you do.....Robin.........
I bought a Lanshan 2 pro after watching Haze Outdoors take his out for 2 weeks across Scotland in all weathers (not winter). It's not the best but the price is right and a good way to lighten to the load. As an old school hiker used to carrying 1.5-2kg solo tents, having a tent less than 1kg but still huge inside feels like luxury. I'll take the niggles. Sometimes I take the tarp ;)
I have the Lanshan 2, and then bought the winter inner separately so I have the mesh inner for when it's warmer and then when it gets colder I can swap out the mesh inner for the solid inner.
Well done! I had come to most of the same conclusions after researching these tents for a couple months. Your video would have saved me so much time! If we had a dog, I would much prefer it tore holes in the floor of a LanShan than a $350 Nemo or $700 Zpacks tent!
I had a eureka spitfire and a small dog with sharp nails and it never punctured! It was like 119$ back in the day and is still puncture free, and I never used a footprint, I would just put my tiny sleep pad on the ground underneath the tent as a foot print. Sad they don't make them anymore, cheap enough to not care if you ruin it and strong for a 3lb setup.
I have the Lanshan 2 and have been on many backpacking trips ( some in rain) and it has not failed me yet. I am a little conflicted with buying from China these days but it is a really good tent for the money.
Thank you for this. I'm also curious about how you would compare these 2 tents with a more expensive version of a similar tent. I'm thinking of something like the Tiger Wall or the Nemo I think you used on the AT. It probably wouldn't be fair to put the LS pro up against the Zpacks duplex but I'd still be curious whether you think the Zpacks is worth all the extra money.
Got the lanshan 2 with the footprint thru ali express ~4 yrs ago for ~100 bucks. Since it came directly from China, it took a month or so since it had to pass thru customs. Performed well and lighter than my 1 person big agnes jackrabbit. Was great way to test out a trekking pole style tent at an affordable price. Well, a few days ago I finally got my first single wall dyneema fabric trekking pole tent. Almost went with the zpack duplex, but in the end, I opted for the hyperlite unbound 2!
I have the Lanshan 1 and love that tent. I do a lot of bikepacking and have several compadres who swear by a bivy. My pack weight and size is comparable, but I can bring my gear inside to charge batteries, have snacks, watch movies, and take care of hygiene. A vestibule to cook under is nice too. Altogether less money, more comfort, and equal packing weight and pack space. Great value for money.
Very happy with my Lanshan 1 Pro - both of your criticisms (J-zips, door guy hook) also apply to the one-person Lanshan. One difference between Standard and Pro versions which I don't think you made enough of is the materials used. The Pro's fabric is appreciably stronger, and its construction is stronger too.
Love my Lanshan 2 pro 4 season tent. No problem with condensation or bugs. Took a while to figure out how to set it up the first time but it was very windy. Replaced the tent stakes with longer aluminum ones.
Thanks Dixie. I will probably try out the 2 & not the pro. I absolutely hate condensation and I'm really not comfortable in my single person tent. I just toss and turn too much.
I did my first solo overnighter last weekend and took the Lanshan 2. I loved the spaciousness of it and I had no issues with condensation. It can be a bit hit and miss to set up and I definitely managed to set it up wonky this time but it was still fine. Like others suggested above if you find a forked stick you can prop up the guyline at the head end to lift the mesh, even so I had to have my mat in the centre of the floor because the sag toward the sides was annoying. I don't think I could use it with 2 people but for 1 it's great.
Just picked up the LS2 Pro a couple days ago. Now I'm wondering if I shouldve gotten the original instead. Seems like the original is better in nearly all aspects except for weight and ease of setup.
I now have one of each also. Grandkids ;-). Mine came as MIER tents. Agree with your comments 100% Finding "perfect pitch" on the 2 does take experimenting. I prefer the double wall just to keep me from bumping the condensation.
Love your reviews, Dixie! Only doing day hikes right now with my adult daughter, while we gradually purchase gear and get in better shape. After watching all your tent review videos, I just bought the Lanshan 2, so if for some reason my daughter can't set up her hammock, she'll have room to bunk in with me. Thanks, Dixie: you're the best.
I like the $ of the L2 and it is way lighter than the 2 person I use to carry. My only issue is getting better at minimizing the netting sag. It really came into play this weekend when a mouse decided to run up the netting (luckily on the outside) and the sag made it run across my head. I looked up and watched it cross the top of the tent from where I sent it flying into the leaves outside. I was just glad it didn't try to gnaw it's way in.
Both great tents for slightly different uses and have done a video on mods using extra pegs and shockcord to get the perfect setup ,great comparison video 👍👍👍
Your review has really helped me ! I have been looking for a beginner backpacking tent and the prices of the lightweight options are nuts out there ! So i ordered this landshan one and I am excited to see how it holds up. Thank you for thinking about us less richy people ;) single mom here :)
I was a single Mum many years ago, I took my children camping because we could afford expensive holidays. All grown up now and have done really well in life. They still camp to this day and take their own children camping and have happy memories of our daft little camping trips. In my opinion this little tent is excellent value for money 😀
Just came back from a two weeks Sierra hike with the LanShan2. It now has a total of 60 nights of use and is going strong. No worries, I like it. Additional remarks: - you should seam seal the anchor points (3 at the LanShan1) of the extra guy lines which pull up the walls; this is done in 5 minutes; - the one is a little bit more difficult to set up than the two because of its pentagonal (instead rectangular) floor plan.
Picking up a Lanshan 2 for my car camping. Zpacks Duplex for backpacking. Kindof love that i can have an inexpensive duplex for weekend warrioring out of my car.
I added a few mods to the Pro 2 , 1st I added a cinch line inside to lift the bathtub, like the Z packs. I changed the 2 loops at the doors which connect to the Ramshead clip with 4mm shock chord, here I also only attach the one side of the door. I added shock chord to the pull outs. These 2 mods to reduce the force the wind would put on the tent. I also added 2mm shock chord to the bathtub lines (about 40mm shorter than the main line) this provides a taught pull on the tub after all the adjustments.
Since I am one of the 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 percent of the population who are not thru hikers, I would go with the Lanshan 2 over the pro. A few oz of weight means absolutely nothing to me. Having a 2 walled tent that doesn't leak or have condensation issues trumps 3oz in extra weight all day. Wet cloths and gear weigh more, drying them takes time out of your hike. If it is cooler weather, it could even become dangerous to be wet. Saving money is always a good thing as well.
I bought the 2 Pro in green last year because its bigger inside, lighter, made from a higher quality material (stronger and double sided coating for added waterproofness) and because it has the word Pro in the name :P Used it a bunch so far and it works great. No leaks after doing a careful seam sealing job with the supplied syringe.
Just got me the lanshan 2 pro this year and am quite impressed, but need further testing. Seam sealing was okay with their tutorial from the 3ful blog and the cyringe they delivered with the tent.
Great video. I find the Lanshan door hook is better than the zpacks because it's easily undone with one hand just with a little twist. Although it's definitely worth swapping out the cord loops for some shock cord so you have more wiggle room when hooking and unhooking
👍 thanks... I'm looking at buying a trekking pole tent, and particularly interested in the Lanshan 2, ... I'd have thought the pro version would be better... seems not?🤔
I just bought the Lanshan 2 Pro, and, apparently, the new version has the inner mesh tent--supposed to arrive this weekend, so, I'll update this post after I have a lookey-loo.
Thanks for the info. Guess my reservations with either are the pole set-up and its sturdinsess in a storm. There's a tent called a storm something that runs same price as pro. Not a trekking pole set up. Now I'm on the fence!
Amazing review. Thanks. I got a chance to visit the Benton MacKay trail system in Blue Ridge, GA. Wonderful spot. Saw lots of places where trail angels had left water.
I also bought 4season from camperlists and used it for 2 months, everything is fine If you want good after-sales service, you should choose Collins outdoors, and the price is the best
Great review. 👍 This is a great tent all around. Been looking up reviews has a great track record. Might fall in the budget category but who's to say really. I don't enjoy dropping loads of money on something that still gets you wet when you can stay dry in a double wall it's worth the effort and the money saved can go toward your next trip. Ultralight is great to a point then it just gets ridiculously uncomfortable. Sleep is a priority in any situation. UL is a great concept but to each his own.
I'm curious if many people have used this in significant rain? The 3FUL website lists it as as 6000hh floor but only a 2000hh fly. Most "decent" tents have hydrostatic head ratings between 10,000-30,000 - roughly 10 times greater than the Lanshan 2. Wondering how others have fared in wet weather?
If your me , so you go backpacking 3-6 times a year. Small trips 1-3 nights maybe a week once every couple years. Mostly solo but occasionally two people. And you don’t wanna spend 700 dollars what tent should I get ?
Another outstanding review comparing and contrasting the two similar tents. Have you considered testing the popular Six Moons Designs Lunar Solo tent? Would be interested in your opinion.
@Gone Awry as someone who’s watched a ton of her videos I’d say you’re correct but oddly enough I’m not really looking to get into backpacking I just enjoy watching her videos.
Started watching her at the very beginning of her AT hike. My has she become the "go to" source. Her presentation is basic girl next do. Easy to understand.
If I add a lightweight rainfly over my Duplex, will it help with condensation? I have always carried a UL rainfly if rain was possible, but only put it up in the rain and did not pay attention. LOL. I don't mind an extra 3 oz if it stops getting my quilt wet when I slide to the bottom.
I have a question on this tent and have seen it asked, On my current tent its really bad with building up condensation, how does these 2 models do with condensation?
I love my little Lanshan 2 pro, it’s a very fair statement that they can be a bit fiddly to set up sometimes and the bath tub floor doesn’t sit at 90 degrees. Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water however, the cost is a major thing here. This tent is absolutely outstanding value for money 😀
Hi Dixie, I am glad you are making these videos as I have just recently bought the Lanshan 2 Pro tent and it's great to see and hear how it performs for others. :) I haven't gained a lot of experience with this tent yet, but first thing that starts to bother me are the tent stakes. Do you use the original ones or did you buy some other from a different company, could you recommend any? :) Thank you and have a great day!
Thanks for a good video as per usual! Just a reflection, I think it's odd that you need to seam seal a new tent. A tedious jobb. I have never had to do that with my tents and they have always stod the test from storms, rain and snow.
Often single wall tents will need seam sealing - Gossamer Gear for example is one I came across just last week. More expensive brands include it in their higher cost. All I've found offer the seam sealing service though.
With over 50 years of backpacking experience, I have owned LOTS of equipment. I bought the Lanshan 2 tent about two years ago and now it's my 'go to' tent. It packs small. Large interior. Light weight for the price. I have used the tent on top of Virgina mountains to Tennessee lowlands to the streams of my home state, Alabama. I love this tent.
Due to my past misadventures I silicon sprayed the entire tent twice before using it. In April while walking on the Black Creek Trail in southern Mississippi we endured a 5 hour massive rainstorm. Even with the tent being battered by high wind it never leaked a drop. (Black Creek flooded by 8' and we had to bail off the trail).
In camp, I find two sticks about 9" long. I use them to slide at each tent end between the ground and the staked-out guys to pull the rainfly slightly vertically. This pulls the tent floor upward and reduces the sagging in the mesh.
I have a few expensive backpacking items but I am not one to spend a lot of money on name brand equipment. I highly recommend the Lanshan 2 tent for any camping trip.
Interesting about the silicon spray. Helps with that water retarding? Previous misadventures?
What silicone spray did you use to seal it ??
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You do an excellent job of pointing out that everyone has their own set of priorities for their gear. The price, weight, durability triangle is very individual specific.
I have the lanshan 2Pro it’s never leaked. Love this tent!!! It’s best to set it up when you seam seal it. That way everything is stretched and you can get it sealed much better. Plus it’s easier to make sure you don’t miss anything.
Do you have a 3 season or 4 season option? Do you know the difference?
@@revbombtoast I dont have the tent myself but a google search tells me the difference is the netting. 3 season uses standard mesh like just about every tent out there. 4 season uses mostly a breathable nylon fabric instead. Which will be less breathable but will add some warmth to your tent. Good for winter but not as good for summer.
It helps a lot to thin the silicone with mineral spirits. Much easier to work with but also flows into the seam more readily and provides a more reliable seal.
I have heard that, but I didn’t wanna do an extra step lol. The seams I sealed were fine, but the ones I forgot about… well, they leaked haha.
Mineral spirits will deteriorate synthetic materials over time, mainly the tent fibres and the sewing threads. You’ll see yellowing sooner than you expect.
Wood Chip - I haven’t experienced that using the silicon sealant and mineral spirits with silnylon and silpoly over multiple shelters and repeated applications. I would stress that this approach only works with siliconized fabrics, and if you are using nylon with an inner waterproof coating, rather than one impregnated with silicon, you need to use a different appropriate seam sealant. Cheers.
Wow!Wish I had of known this before I sealed mine as mine ended up looking like a 4yr old had taken to it.🤦♀️
Looked at Wood Chips reply below n I suddenly feel better.
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Dixie, I am wondering if actually you do have an interest in a four season inner. Just a thought about your aversion to cold. If a mesh tent gives you a 2-3 degree increase Fahrenheit, a 4-season might give you 6 to 8. A further idea is to cut the 4-season nylon from its bath tub floor and alter it with holes as need (seam seal the edge of cut out holes) to be a drape over the mesh tent on very cold 3-season nights.
An afterthought: it might be interesting to see what happens with a 4-season inner vis-a-vis your allergy issue. One thing that happens when you sleep on the ground is breathing concentrations of air that has interacted with the ground and contains particles thereof.
I used the L2 when I started hiking and loved it, the net hanging in your face and hair f'ed with me too, but I found that if you prop a 3-4 foot stick under the side guy line, it will lift the net up pretty well and away from your head. Great review!
Love the creative editing! Nice review. I bought the non pro version a few years ago. My husband and I use it when backpacking together. We didn’t notice the doors being a problem even though they are on opposite ends and we sleep head to head. Also, about to clip system for the vestibule area- I just leave one loop unclipped. The part I use to open and close I don’t ever clip. When it’s zipped down it stays fine.
Agree 100%.
Best prices are always at Camperlists
Wow! Side-by-side Dixies doing a setup. That's a clever new Aaronization. Nifty. 👏🏻
I started out on a budget and bought the Lanshan 2 and absolutely love it! I'll be thru-hiking the AT next year and I can see it doing an amazing job for the trip! The fussiness with setup gets a lot easier after doing it over and over. You learn a few little tricks to make it a lot simpler everytime. I still don't see how I would set it up without the rainfly though. maybe have to play around with it a little more.
Me too! I love mine, I ordered a set of vestibule door hooks for a zpacks duplex and they were cheap and so much easier to use. I also finally ponied up for the 4 season inner and it turns out to be lighter than the three season! Best wishes on the AT next year, when you get to Luray in Shenandoah check out the Open Arms hostile. A lady named Allison runs it, she’s great, it’s very clean and a lot of bang for the buck!
Flip your trekking poles over and loop some cordage through the corner hooks and around the spike, peg out at a 45 degree angle, as if you were setting up a tarp ⛰️
I am looking at the LS 2 as just a weekend or overnight tent. I wasn't sure if it was AT worthy! I guess it is. Good luck on your thru-hike!
My main tent is the Lanshan 1 Pro (1lb 8oz), and I highly recommend it for anyone who doesnt need all that room. Its the poor mans Gossamer Gear The One. Uses 1 pole, so I use the 2nd to give more head or foot space with those tie outs. I also have the Lanshan 2 for trips with my girlfriend and it works great, but she's also only 5 feet tall. But we fit fine with gear in the vestibule.
The Lanshan 2 Pro has a larger interior space and is lighter than Lanshan 2, so it looks good. Lanshan 2 has a PU coating on the inside of the flysheet, so seam sealing tape reconstruction must be done every 5 years, but it has a double wall structure, so it is strong against condensation.
As a result, the Lanshan 2 Pro has two weaknesses. The first is more expensive than Lanshan, and the second is single-walled fly, so there is condensation inside.
I'd go for the heavier 4 season inner because we only get 1 hour of darkness in summer and anything that helps me get some sleep is worth the weight! Most of my tents have dark-coloured solid inners for exactly that reason. Plus we have a cool climate that can dip below freezing at any time of year so extra insulation is good too.
Love you channel.
I am a recent subscriber who has worked a far way through the wealth of information in your past videos.
I want to say thank you for turning me on to trekking poles. I Hike in the Australian bush and in my area then means navigating lots of sandstone gullies and ledges. Trekking poles are wonderful for navigating up and down the steep tracks as well as along the narrow paths along the rock ledges.
Also I figure they will be handy in snake season when it's a good idea to regularly tap the ground and wave a stick out in front. The idea being the tapping alerts snakes and the stick out in front is hopefully what they will strike at.
9:30 there is no need to hook both sides of the door to this hook, like it may on a Duplex. Just hook one side permantly, and open and close the other with the zipper. You will never have to mess with this hook again.
I'm 194cm tall and I choose the pro version just to get some extra room inside the tent. I'm happy with my desicion and love the pro tent.
I am 198cm and was wondering if it would be long enough. Do you ever hit your head or feet on the fly? I was thinking I could set the sleep pad diagonal.
@@kurtpiron838 no issues with the length. And I use the exped long and wide so it's a thick and long pad aswell.
Great! Thanks. 🙏🏼
Trick with pitching the lanshan 2 is to just peg out the fly points. Then when you've got it right, just walk around the tent once, reaching in underneath to grab the inner bungee or cord and just loop it over the pegs to stretch out the bath tub. It's only a bit tricky if you're in a very small lumpy space or you're trying to pitch into sandy or rocky ground, although it's never fallen down on me, so you can do it it's just a bit of extra work, as Dixie says.
After a while you can eyeball exactly where you would put in the initial pegs for the corners to get a good pitch first time every time.
The inner mesh isn't under any tension so there's nothing really stopping your sleeping bag pressing right up against the rain fly and getting damp. I sleep diagonally to help avoid this.
The latest version is not bungee but shock cord so it makes it a bit trickier. No stretch!
@@larslarson9359 ah, that's a shame, I have seen these versions. I'd definitely replace with bungee 👍
I’ve been using my Lanshan 2 for 2 years now I like it. It is finicky to set up the first few times but I was able to figure out what works for me. Mine leaked slightly at the wall tie outs. A little seam seal and she good to go now. For the weight and price I thinks it’s a good option for those of us who don’t get out a lot. If you’re on a budget give it a try
Great job explaining the subtle and not so subtle differences between these two tents. I have the 2 Pro and love it. I did have it seam sealed by 3Ful. I was a little put out that they would dare ship a tent that was "incomplete" with regard to sealed seems, but.................... that's just me. It was only $35, so that's that. Keep up the great work. I have enjoyed your videos for years. Your easy demeanor, experience and knowledge make your videos a real pleasure to watch. Best regards from Largo, FL.
Hi Dixie. Long time follower. War Eagle! We have the Flame ‘s Creed which is just the green version of the lanshan. Switched out the line tighteners for a simpler fastener. We always setup the rainfly and then clip the mesh tent into it. For two people it’s about a pound each but a little cramped width wise at 45 inches. For weight and price you can’t beat it. Been using it for 2 years section hiking the AT and not a single problem. Wouldn’t trade it.
I always appreciate your candid reviews. Thanks Dixie!
Just bought myself a Lanshan 2 so I can backpack with my pups and not have to worry about them escaping while I sleep as opposed to my tarp tent I have. I’m so excited to use it! Thank you for bringing this tent to my attention; it’s the perfect solution for my needs.
I am buying this tent for the same reason!
@@rsg7221 it’s a great buy! Mine is still going strong after a year with lots of backpacking, camping, and rafting.
I have the lanshan 2 pro. I seam sealed. Replaced the door hooks with zpacks hooks and added a shock cord pull at the head and foot ends to pull the bathtub up. It works great. My two teenage boys used it on our last camping trip and if they closed both doors the condensation was pretty bad. If they left one door open on each side it wasn't bad at all. Condensation can be a problem if you have 2 people breathing in it all night. Great video.
Any tips on how to connect the shockcord to the bathtub?
It seems like an perfect idea.
@@mauricewal I sewed into the inside wall of the tent on he reinforcements that support the guy lines. There's a video on TH-cam. I'll go find it. . .
@@michaelessig6376 that would be great. I am searching for it but I can't find it.
@@mauricewal here you go: th-cam.com/video/yTCEPjyC-oE/w-d-xo.html
@@michaelessig6376 thanks!!
I have the Meir 2 same as lanshan 2. Love it. I hike every once in a while not one probably.
This has probably already been said but you can buy the 4 season inner for the Lanshan 2 separately and just swap the inners. This gives you a great option for both 3 and 4 season use.
Lanshan 2 double wall. just do not want to deal with condensation. not worried about weight. nice review. stay safe.
I've used my Lanshan 2 a couple of times now and I love this tent over all. It is by far the lightest weight tent I've ever carried and it is great! My biggest issue with it has been the area I go camping, I live in Northwest Arkansas and the ground around here is more rocks than dirt sometimes. In extremely rocky areas I've bent a few of the stakes and once been unable to get a few stakes in at all due to the only flat area being too rocky and I had to resort to tying off the unstake-able portions to trees. That worked well enough but was annoying. Just keep in mind that with tents like these if you can't stake them down they don't work almost at all.
Check out how to stake out tents with rocks! I've done so more than a dozen times with the Lanshan 2 in the rocky, hard ground of the Sierras, and its worked great. TH-cam has plenty of vids on it :)
FWIW, zpacks sells the hooks from their tents, and some lanshan owners have indeed replaced their hooks with the zpacks ones.
I bought a set, but the ramshead style ones on the lanshan didn't end up bothering me, so I haven't gotten around to installing them.
FYI, there is a Lanshan tent variation with a T-shaped door on the inner tent, so it doesn't matter which way the head goes.
Dixie, thank you for your dedicated summary of the two tents in question, I find their inner should be re-tensioned and sewn or sewing glued, since that slack is not necessary. Keep up the very good work you do.....Robin.........
Completed the AT in 2023 with the 2 Pro, and it's still going strong. Great piece of kit. Tremendous value for what you get.
I bought a Lanshan 2 pro after watching Haze Outdoors take his out for 2 weeks across Scotland in all weathers (not winter). It's not the best but the price is right and a good way to lighten to the load. As an old school hiker used to carrying 1.5-2kg solo tents, having a tent less than 1kg but still huge inside feels like luxury. I'll take the niggles. Sometimes I take the tarp ;)
Does Haze outdoors recommend the pro version over the standard?
I have the Lanshan 2, and then bought the winter inner separately so I have the mesh inner for when it's warmer and then when it gets colder I can swap out the mesh inner for the solid inner.
I really like my lanshan 2. Tried to talk myself into or out of this tent for 3 years before I committed, glad I have one now.
Well done! I had come to most of the same conclusions after researching these tents for a couple months. Your video would have saved me so much time!
If we had a dog, I would much prefer it tore holes in the floor of a LanShan than a $350 Nemo or $700 Zpacks tent!
I had a eureka spitfire and a small dog with sharp nails and it never punctured! It was like 119$ back in the day and is still puncture free, and I never used a footprint, I would just put my tiny sleep pad on the ground underneath the tent as a foot print. Sad they don't make them anymore, cheap enough to not care if you ruin it and strong for a 3lb setup.
I have the Lanshan 2 and have been on many backpacking trips ( some in rain) and it has not failed me yet. I am a little conflicted with buying from China these days but it is a really good tent for the money.
Thank you for this. I'm also curious about how you would compare these 2 tents with a more expensive version of a similar tent. I'm thinking of something like the Tiger Wall or the Nemo I think you used on the AT. It probably wouldn't be fair to put the LS pro up against the Zpacks duplex but I'd still be curious whether you think the Zpacks is worth all the extra money.
I think she's already done that comparison !
Got the lanshan 2 with the footprint thru ali express ~4 yrs ago for ~100 bucks. Since it came directly from China, it took a month or so since it had to pass thru customs. Performed well and lighter than my 1 person big agnes jackrabbit.
Was great way to test out a trekking pole style tent at an affordable price.
Well, a few days ago I finally got my first single wall dyneema fabric trekking pole tent. Almost went with the zpack duplex, but in the end, I opted for the hyperlite unbound 2!
I have the Lanshan 1 and love that tent. I do a lot of bikepacking and have several compadres who swear by a bivy. My pack weight and size is comparable, but I can bring my gear inside to charge batteries, have snacks, watch movies, and take care of hygiene. A vestibule to cook under is nice too. Altogether less money, more comfort, and equal packing weight and pack space. Great value for money.
Great review... Actually like a review, not a commercial. Thanks !
Very happy with my Lanshan 1 Pro - both of your criticisms (J-zips, door guy hook) also apply to the one-person Lanshan. One difference between Standard and Pro versions which I don't think you made enough of is the materials used. The Pro's fabric is appreciably stronger, and its construction is stronger too.
Love my Lanshan 2 pro 4 season tent. No problem with condensation or bugs. Took a while to figure out how to set it up the first time but it was very windy. Replaced the tent stakes with longer aluminum ones.
great review. Thank you. I'm in a budget mindset these days so your review is much appreciated.
You do excellent reviews Dixie
Thanks Dixie. I will probably try out the 2 & not the pro. I absolutely hate condensation and I'm really not comfortable in my single person tent. I just toss and turn too much.
I did my first solo overnighter last weekend and took the Lanshan 2. I loved the spaciousness of it and I had no issues with condensation. It can be a bit hit and miss to set up and I definitely managed to set it up wonky this time but it was still fine. Like others suggested above if you find a forked stick you can prop up the guyline at the head end to lift the mesh, even so I had to have my mat in the centre of the floor because the sag toward the sides was annoying. I don't think I could use it with 2 people but for 1 it's great.
Just picked up the LS2 Pro a couple days ago. Now I'm wondering if I shouldve gotten the original instead. Seems like the original is better in nearly all aspects except for weight and ease of setup.
I now have one of each also. Grandkids ;-).
Mine came as MIER tents.
Agree with your comments 100%
Finding "perfect pitch" on the 2 does take experimenting. I prefer the double wall just to keep me from bumping the condensation.
Love your reviews, Dixie! Only doing day hikes right now with my adult daughter, while we gradually purchase gear and get in better shape. After watching all your tent review videos, I just bought the Lanshan 2, so if for some reason my daughter can't set up her hammock, she'll have room to bunk in with me.
Thanks, Dixie: you're the best.
This was soooooo helpful. Exactly what I needed. Thank you!
I like the $ of the L2 and it is way lighter than the 2 person I use to carry. My only issue is getting better at minimizing the netting sag. It really came into play this weekend when a mouse decided to run up the netting (luckily on the outside) and the sag made it run across my head. I looked up and watched it cross the top of the tent from where I sent it flying into the leaves outside. I was just glad it didn't try to gnaw it's way in.
Both great tents for slightly different uses and have done a video on mods using extra pegs and shockcord to get the perfect setup ,great comparison video 👍👍👍
Your review has really helped me ! I have been looking for a beginner backpacking tent and the prices of the lightweight options are nuts out there ! So i ordered this landshan one and I am excited to see how it holds up. Thank you for thinking about us less richy people ;) single mom here :)
I was a single Mum many years ago, I took my children camping because we could afford expensive holidays. All grown up now and have done really well in life. They still camp to this day and take their own children camping and have happy memories of our daft little camping trips. In my opinion this little tent is excellent value for money 😀
Just came back from a two weeks Sierra hike with the LanShan2. It now has a total of 60 nights of use and is going strong. No worries, I like it.
Additional remarks:
- you should seam seal the anchor points (3 at the LanShan1) of the extra guy lines which pull up the walls; this is done in 5 minutes;
- the one is a little bit more difficult to set up than the two because of its pentagonal (instead rectangular) floor plan.
Picking up a Lanshan 2 for my car camping. Zpacks Duplex for backpacking. Kindof love that i can have an inexpensive duplex for weekend warrioring out of my car.
Your info is always helpful.
I'll keep my duplex.
That’s my favorite-ist tent ever 🥰
@@HomemadeWanderlust when got mine 4 years ago it 600 bucks. I really debated to spend thT much on a shelter absolutely so glad I did
I added a few mods to the Pro 2 , 1st I added a cinch line inside to lift the bathtub, like the Z packs. I changed the 2 loops at the doors which connect to the Ramshead clip with 4mm shock chord, here I also only attach the one side of the door. I added shock chord to the pull outs. These 2 mods to reduce the force the wind would put on the tent. I also added 2mm shock chord to the bathtub lines (about 40mm shorter than the main line) this provides a taught pull on the tub after all the adjustments.
Since I am one of the 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 percent of the population who are not thru hikers, I would go with the Lanshan 2 over the pro. A few oz of weight means absolutely nothing to me. Having a 2 walled tent that doesn't leak or have condensation issues trumps 3oz in extra weight all day. Wet cloths and gear weigh more, drying them takes time out of your hike. If it is cooler weather, it could even become dangerous to be wet. Saving money is always a good thing as well.
Well said!
I bought the 2 Pro in green last year because its bigger inside, lighter, made from a higher quality material (stronger and double sided coating for added waterproofness) and because it has the word Pro in the name :P Used it a bunch so far and it works great. No leaks after doing a careful seam sealing job with the supplied syringe.
Lanshan II
Speed up pitching
Attach the tent and inner corners with an o ring to use one peg for each corner
I got it for us two recently, I can't wait to review it myself and sleep in them. So cool you got the same tent too. "hey y'all!!"
Just got me the lanshan 2 pro this year and am quite impressed, but need further testing. Seam sealing was okay with their tutorial from the 3ful blog and the cyringe they delivered with the tent.
Great video. I find the Lanshan door hook is better than the zpacks because it's easily undone with one hand just with a little twist. Although it's definitely worth swapping out the cord loops for some shock cord so you have more wiggle room when hooking and unhooking
👍 thanks... I'm looking at buying a trekking pole tent, and particularly interested in the Lanshan 2, ... I'd have thought the pro version would be better... seems not?🤔
I just bought the Lanshan 2 Pro, and, apparently, the new version has the inner mesh tent--supposed to arrive this weekend, so, I'll update this post after I have a lookey-loo.
Thanks for the info. Guess my reservations with either are the pole set-up and its sturdinsess in a storm. There's a tent called a storm something that runs same price as pro. Not a trekking pole set up. Now I'm on the fence!
Zpack sells metal hooks for $6 to replace the plastic rams head hooks on the Lanshan.
much easier to seam seal when pitched and when sealer is diluted
Great review Dixie! Would these tents work for someone who is 6ft tall?
With the Lanshan 2 you stake out the fly first and then hook the bathtub floor on the same stake. No wonkiness there.
Amazing review. Thanks.
I got a chance to visit the Benton MacKay trail system in Blue Ridge, GA. Wonderful spot. Saw lots of places where trail angels had left water.
I also bought 4season from camperlists and used it for 2 months, everything is fine
If you want good after-sales service, you should choose Collins outdoors, and the price is the best
Really cool and helpful video. Thanks!
Thank you Dixie 👋 appreciate you 🙏 ✌️
Great review. 👍 This is a great tent all around. Been looking up reviews has a great track record. Might fall in the budget category but who's to say really. I don't enjoy dropping loads of money on something that still gets you wet when you can stay dry in a double wall it's worth the effort and the money saved can go toward your next trip. Ultralight is great to a point then it just gets ridiculously uncomfortable. Sleep is a priority in any situation. UL is a great concept but to each his own.
Can you pitch the Lanshan 2 rain fly without needing to use the mesh inner?
have you found out? Im wondering the same thing
I'm curious if many people have used this in significant rain? The 3FUL website lists it as as 6000hh floor but only a 2000hh fly. Most "decent" tents have hydrostatic head ratings between 10,000-30,000 - roughly 10 times greater than the Lanshan 2. Wondering how others have fared in wet weather?
Been using these tents a long time
pitch with the poles longer
It tightens the inner mesh
I do the same if there is no wind. On windy nights pitch it lower.
If your me , so you go backpacking 3-6 times a year. Small trips 1-3 nights maybe a week once every couple years. Mostly solo but occasionally two people. And you don’t wanna spend 700 dollars what tent should I get ?
Great review. Thank you! 🏕️😁
Can you set up either the 2 or the 2 pro with just the rain cover and no mesh tent under like a tarp shelter?
Another outstanding review comparing and contrasting the two similar tents. Have you considered testing the popular Six Moons Designs Lunar Solo tent? Would be interested in your opinion.
Hello Dixie, I know absolutely nothing about backpacking but I watch you anyway.
@Gone Awry as someone who’s watched a ton of her videos I’d say you’re correct but oddly enough I’m not really looking to get into backpacking I just enjoy watching her videos.
Started watching her at the very beginning of her AT hike. My has she become the "go to" source. Her presentation is basic girl next do. Easy to understand.
@Gone Awry I suspect you meant vicariously - not “vivaciously”. 🧐😄
I liked the “twin” Dixie’s setting up the tents!
If I add a lightweight rainfly over my Duplex, will it help with condensation? I have always carried a UL rainfly if rain was possible, but only put it up in the rain and did not pay attention. LOL. I don't mind an extra 3 oz if it stops getting my quilt wet when I slide to the bottom.
Does it come in green
Double Dixie's, win/win! Great video. When are you going to consider the North Country Trail? Any thoughts?
The NCT would be too cold for my liking :) Just did a section of it though and it was documented in the video before this!
My Wife and I watched it several times. She grew up in Michigan and loves the lake. So glad you finally made it!
What's the difference between the 3 season and 4 season options?
which one is 4 season???
I have a question on this tent and have seen it asked, On my current tent its really bad with building up condensation, how does these 2 models do with condensation?
Try the NorTent Vern 1 4 season tent, they coming soon with Nortent Vern 2 if you wait til august
Thanks for this review Dixie!!!
Isnt the pro more a 1.5 walled tent?
The single walled ones I used in the past didnt have apsides
which you prefer defentvli 2 ir 2 pro?
I love my little Lanshan 2 pro, it’s a very fair statement that they can be a bit fiddly to set up sometimes and the bath tub floor doesn’t sit at 90 degrees. Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water however, the cost is a major thing here. This tent is absolutely outstanding value for money 😀
Have seen a lot of them at PCT thruhikers this year.
Hi Dixie, I am glad you are making these videos as I have just recently bought the Lanshan 2 Pro tent and it's great to see and hear how it performs for others. :) I haven't gained a lot of experience with this tent yet, but first thing that starts to bother me are the tent stakes. Do you use the original ones or did you buy some other from a different company, could you recommend any? :) Thank you and have a great day!
I use groundhog stakes, 2 full size for the guy lines and minis for the other 6.
@@jamesthornton3339 Thanks for the answer, James. I'll have a look at them online.
@@veronikahnilickova3915 MSR makes them, they hold better than any stakes I have tried, and I've tried a bunch.
Great post my dear. ⭐️🏃♂️💛
I only have to look at how the pockets lie to make me skeptical about either. Clear indication the “bathtub” floor isn’t sitting up properly
Thanks for a good video as per usual! Just a reflection, I think it's odd that you need to seam seal a new tent. A tedious jobb. I have never had to do that with my tents and they have always stod the test from storms, rain and snow.
Often single wall tents will need seam sealing - Gossamer Gear for example is one I came across just last week. More expensive brands include it in their higher cost. All I've found offer the seam sealing service though.
Great review!
thank you Dixie