I have just gotten a new Lanshan 2 within the last couple of weeks and they have changed the design significantly. The doors to the mesh inner tent are now a tri-zipper in an inverted "T" configuration that extend nearly entirely side to side for both entrances. It also seems they've done something to improve the billowing issue of the inner mesh, because I have no problems what so ever with only a standard side-pull with no poles or sticks to lift it up.. Tonight, I'll be sleeping my second night in it, and so far, I love it.
The 3 season inner has always had an inverted T zip, but now the 4 season inner has one, too. Pleased to hear that you aren’t experiencing sagging on the inner; having the pole set high will be definitely helping.
Good thinking! Especially the catinery line from the apex is a great idea, saving weight of the poles while backpacking. I am fond of my lanshan 2. Having the same fly sheet colour that gives me a very cosy feeling and a good night sleep. Thanks for sharing! Regards from from Henk.
I LOVE your videos and my Lanshan. I’ve been pitching without poles using a cordage ridgeline and Prusik carabiners. If you did that then maybe the catenary line could just go up over the ridgeline at the center. So many ideas and so much fun!
Thanks! Yes, I did try just running the line over the ridge, but that wasn't strong enough; your cordage ridgeline will certainly be better! Let me know how you get on :-)
Thanks Charles, you have defined the lanshan 2 in terms of mods and improvements. Made a great shelter into a really super adaptable one depending on the conditions. Always enjoys your videos
Very good. I repurposed $5 thrift store carbon-fiber fishing poles into a pair of two-piece strutts for the foot or head whall guyout. I CAREFULLY (eyewear, respirator, heavy gloves) cut them to fit my needs, sanded the cut ends, then wrapped the cut ends in nylon thread and Loctite Xtreme Glue. (That glue fixes delaminated boots and trail runners, btw.) I used pointed wooden dowels to cap the ends that stick in the ground. A pencil sharpener works great to sharpen the dowel plugs. I clipped off all but one guide (loop ) and filed those rough edges for each set I was fabricating. They work great. I wrap my guyout line around that loop before staking it. The strutts are feather-weight.
Great tips, thank you so much! I was shocked to hear the weight of the footprint (I haven’t weighed everything yet) so I guess I better start weighing my stuff and making choises like you did, replacing it with lighter stuff / not taking it all together.
Yes, it all adds up. The pegs especially. And I’ve found that keeping the tent dry also makes a big difference; my wet tent after being packed away in the rain weighed 400g more!
I would definitely start with the factory footprint; it’s relatively light and durable. To save weight you can make your own from Polycro. If anything, slightly smaller is better. If the footprint pokes out beyond the inner then it can collect rainwater, which partially defeats the object. Good luck!
I have enjoyed watching your videos and learning about tips to improve the tents. I purchased a similar tent in New Zealand. A "Orson Indie 2" from "Intents Outdoors" and set about applying some of your improvements only to find some were not needed due to the superior quality in the design, materials of the tent. Of course not everything is free as it is a little heavier. If you wouĺd like more info Id be happy to email you with photos. Or come to NZ to walk our 3000km Te Araroa trail and I'll show you my tent.
That sounds very interesting. I think it wouldn’t take much to make the Lanshan even better, so if there’s a version already out there then it could be a winner! Photos please! Thanks
@longsufferinghiker will try to remember photos next time I set it up. The "Orson Indie 2" tent is more taunt or s better fit so no need to provide extra support to the tub floor walls to keep it from sagging, or add a bungie cord to the inner tent to stop the walls from sagging. Ive also seen little improvement in head room by lifting the end guy ropes. Another superior design is with the inner tent walls. They are upside down T zips so you have more choice over how and where you enter.
how does the lanshan 2 pro compare to this one? I'm not sure if actually 2 persons can fit in as I am 1,88m and my wife is 1,71m, and the pro is a bit bigger. but the inner is already connected with the outer making condensation a bigger problem or not?
The ‘Pro’ version is single skin, and made of a slightly better material. + lighter + more interior space - more condensation inside - less versatile; can’t switch inners, or use the flysheet on it’s own, or split the inner & outer for packing and drying. The best choice will depend upon your height and the type of terrain and weather that you expect. I hope this helps!
hi i’ve just ordered a lanshan 2 (non pro) 3 season, im planning on taking it out for one night hikes late october till december in some quite windy locations, do you think im insane to do this or will i be alright with a decent sleeping bag and some thermals ? :)
I think that you'll be absolutely fine if the tent is well pitched. The Lanshan stands up to wind very well if it is pitched with the vestibule & guyline facing into the wind. You can set it lower to suit cool & windy conditions. Check out my suggestions for pitching it here: th-cam.com/video/Pt-QUHMw2v0/w-d-xo.html My modifications to the guylines etc. will certainly help. But it will be worth investing in some better (bigger) pegs for the guylines and door bungees though ;-) You'll be fine with a decent rated sleeping bag, but I suggest treating the 'comfort' temperature ratings with a pinch of salt. I'm a cold sleeper and add at least 5 degrees to the manufacturers comfort rating. Good luck!!
it's out! Yeah! 😃as always very well thought out and practical! Thank you very much for showing it! I always look forward to a video from you. I love my new Lanshan 2 very much, it feels like a mini house, very cozy. Unfortunately, I now have a bit more trouble finding a suitable place since I'm here in the forest, but so far I've been lucky 😁. I wanted to ask you if you have an opinion about the stability of the trekking poles. Is aluminum better or carbon? I heard carbon could break more easily under heavy loads, so I haven't bought one made of carbon yet.
Thanks! I use aluminium poles because I, too, believe that they are less prone to snapping. One of my poles was slightly bent on the Cape Wrath Trail when it saved me from falling during a river crossing, and I am very impressed by how it has retained its strength regardless. From what I've seen, the carbon poles aren't significantly lighter, either...
@@longsufferinghiker Thank you very much, that confirms what I was already thinking. I'm glad I hadn't spent any money on it yet and I'm even more happy about my aluminum trekking poles now 😊. good time and safe trips!
It was funny to see your first mod video and how I'd done similar mods independently. I'll definitely have a look at some of these when I start using mine again as the weather improves. I use a different tent during winter. What's the highest wind speed you've used the tent in?
I hope some of these are useful to you as well! I’ve never measured the wind speed 😟 but the worst night was on the Cape Wrath Trail when a calm evening on s super pitch soon turned into an overnight storm. The type that has you getting up every hour to check the pegs. But the tent was fine, and in approx 80 nights I’ve never been seriously worried. Pitched nice and low, with good pegs, it has a shape that naturally sheds the wind if the doors are pointed towards the wind. And the poles are super strong. Much better than a lot of more expensive tents, I think. But then I am a bit biased!
@@longsufferinghiker I camp about 75+ times a year, mostly wild camping. I mostly use the Lanshan when hiking big distances and warmer weather (it's got the mesh inner). A Pioneer when colder or wild camping (it's a good size for one and a small footprint). I have a Cloud Peak if I'm having to share. Thanks for responding and I'll have a look at trying some of your ideas soon. Any excuse to get outdoors is a good one. 👍
It’s nothing special; just a knotted loop. But TBH you’ll be better off ditching that guyline and instead using a separate guyline, and bungees for the doors. See my original Lanshan 2 mods video for details Improve a Lanshan 2 Backpacking Tent? Try these 13 modifications th-cam.com/video/b95uPpaorBo/w-d-xo.html
Foot prints should never extend past the inter tent, it’s asking for big problems. It allows water to set between the two which gives the water time to penetrate the bathtub. Far worse than sitting directly on the ground.
I know what you're saying; any water sitting on the footprint is a problem. But I would just say that footprints should not extend close to the edge of the flysheet. My footprint covers only half of the vestibule area, so I don't encounter any problems. And the benefits of that extra area are certainly worth it.
I have just gotten a new Lanshan 2 within the last couple of weeks and they have changed the design significantly. The doors to the mesh inner tent are now a tri-zipper in an inverted "T" configuration that extend nearly entirely side to side for both entrances. It also seems they've done something to improve the billowing issue of the inner mesh, because I have no problems what so ever with only a standard side-pull with no poles or sticks to lift it up..
Tonight, I'll be sleeping my second night in it, and so far, I love it.
The 3 season inner has always had an inverted T zip, but now the 4 season inner has one, too.
Pleased to hear that you aren’t experiencing sagging on the inner; having the pole set high will be definitely helping.
Genius!! Especially love the pole hook and groundsheet. Thank you. I will certainly be trying those.
Thanks! I hope they work for you :-)
Good thinking! Especially the catinery line from the apex is a great idea, saving weight of the poles while backpacking. I am fond of my lanshan 2. Having the same fly sheet colour that gives me a very cosy feeling and a good night sleep. Thanks for sharing! Regards from from Henk.
Thanks :-)
I hope the idea works for you
I LOVE your videos and my Lanshan. I’ve been pitching without poles using a cordage ridgeline and Prusik carabiners. If you did that then maybe the catenary line could just go up over the ridgeline at the center. So many ideas and so much fun!
Thanks! Yes, I did try just running the line over the ridge, but that wasn't strong enough; your cordage ridgeline will certainly be better! Let me know how you get on :-)
Thanks Charles, you have defined the lanshan 2 in terms of mods and improvements. Made a great shelter into a really super adaptable one depending on the conditions.
Always enjoys your videos
Thanks mate; much appreciated. It makes all the work worthwhile to get nice comments like yours.
Great additions to the previous video.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks; I'm really glad you like them :-)
Very good.
I repurposed $5 thrift store carbon-fiber fishing poles into a pair of two-piece strutts for the foot or head whall guyout.
I CAREFULLY (eyewear, respirator, heavy gloves) cut them to fit my needs, sanded the cut ends, then wrapped the cut ends in nylon thread and Loctite Xtreme Glue. (That glue fixes delaminated boots and trail runners, btw.)
I used pointed wooden dowels to cap the ends that stick in the ground. A pencil sharpener works great to sharpen the dowel plugs.
I clipped off all but one guide (loop ) and filed those rough edges for each set I was fabricating.
They work great.
I wrap my guyout line around that loop before staking it.
The strutts are feather-weight.
That's a great idea; fishing poles are ideal :-) And thanks for the tip about the glue!
Thanks for the tip!
Great tips, thank you so much! I was shocked to hear the weight of the footprint (I haven’t weighed everything yet) so I guess I better start weighing my stuff and making choises like you did, replacing it with lighter stuff / not taking it all together.
Yes, it all adds up. The pegs especially.
And I’ve found that keeping the tent dry also makes a big difference; my wet tent after being packed away in the rain weighed 400g more!
thank you so much very handy mods.
You're welcome; hope some of them work for you :-)
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
What is the best size groundsheet I can buy for the Lanshan 2? is slightly bigger than the tent inner size better or smaller? Thank you
I would definitely start with the factory footprint; it’s relatively light and durable. To save weight you can make your own from Polycro.
If anything, slightly smaller is better. If the footprint pokes out beyond the inner then it can collect rainwater, which partially defeats the object.
Good luck!
@@longsufferinghiker Thank you for the insight sir! Love your vids 🙏🏻 Regards from Singapore
Thanks!! 🤩
I have enjoyed watching your videos and learning about tips to improve the tents. I purchased a similar tent in New Zealand. A "Orson Indie 2" from "Intents Outdoors" and set about applying some of your improvements only to find some were not needed due to the superior quality in the design, materials of the tent. Of course not everything is free as it is a little heavier. If you wouĺd like more info Id be happy to email you with photos. Or come to NZ to walk our 3000km Te Araroa trail and I'll show you my tent.
That sounds very interesting. I think it wouldn’t take much to make the Lanshan even better, so if there’s a version already out there then it could be a winner! Photos please! Thanks
@longsufferinghiker will try to remember photos next time I set it up. The "Orson Indie 2" tent is more taunt or s better fit so no need to provide extra support to the tub floor walls to keep it from sagging, or add a bungie cord to the inner tent to stop the walls from sagging. Ive also seen little improvement in head room by lifting the end guy ropes. Another superior design is with the inner tent walls. They are upside down T zips so you have more choice over how and where you enter.
how does the lanshan 2 pro compare to this one? I'm not sure if actually 2 persons can fit in as I am 1,88m and my wife is 1,71m, and the pro is a bit bigger. but the inner is already connected with the outer making condensation a bigger problem or not?
The ‘Pro’ version is single skin, and made of a slightly better material.
+ lighter
+ more interior space
- more condensation inside
- less versatile; can’t switch inners, or use the flysheet on it’s own, or split the inner & outer for packing and drying.
The best choice will depend upon your height and the type of terrain and weather that you expect.
I hope this helps!
hi i’ve just ordered a lanshan 2 (non pro) 3 season, im planning on taking it out for one night hikes late october till december in some quite windy locations, do you think im insane to do this or will i be alright with a decent sleeping bag and some thermals ? :)
I think that you'll be absolutely fine if the tent is well pitched. The Lanshan stands up to wind very well if it is pitched with the vestibule & guyline facing into the wind. You can set it lower to suit cool & windy conditions. Check out my suggestions for pitching it here: th-cam.com/video/Pt-QUHMw2v0/w-d-xo.html
My modifications to the guylines etc. will certainly help. But it will be worth investing in some better (bigger) pegs for the guylines and door bungees though ;-)
You'll be fine with a decent rated sleeping bag, but I suggest treating the 'comfort' temperature ratings with a pinch of salt. I'm a cold sleeper and add at least 5 degrees to the manufacturers comfort rating.
Good luck!!
it's out! Yeah! 😃as always very well thought out and practical! Thank you very much for showing it! I always look forward to a video from you. I love my new Lanshan 2 very much, it feels like a mini house, very cozy. Unfortunately, I now have a bit more trouble finding a suitable place since I'm here in the forest, but so far I've been lucky 😁. I wanted to ask you if you have an opinion about the stability of the trekking poles. Is aluminum better or carbon? I heard carbon could break more easily under heavy loads, so I haven't bought one made of carbon yet.
Thanks!
I use aluminium poles because I, too, believe that they are less prone to snapping. One of my poles was slightly bent on the Cape Wrath Trail when it saved me from falling during a river crossing, and I am very impressed by how it has retained its strength regardless. From what I've seen, the carbon poles aren't significantly lighter, either...
@@longsufferinghiker Thank you very much, that confirms what I was already thinking. I'm glad I hadn't spent any money on it yet and I'm even more happy about my aluminum trekking poles now 😊. good time and safe trips!
It was funny to see your first mod video and how I'd done similar mods independently. I'll definitely have a look at some of these when I start using mine again as the weather improves. I use a different tent during winter.
What's the highest wind speed you've used the tent in?
I hope some of these are useful to you as well!
I’ve never measured the wind speed 😟 but the worst night was on the Cape Wrath Trail when a calm evening on s super pitch soon turned into an overnight storm. The type that has you getting up every hour to check the pegs. But the tent was fine, and in approx 80 nights I’ve never been seriously worried. Pitched nice and low, with good pegs, it has a shape that naturally sheds the wind if the doors are pointed towards the wind. And the poles are super strong. Much better than a lot of more expensive tents, I think. But then I am a bit biased!
@@longsufferinghiker I camp about 75+ times a year, mostly wild camping. I mostly use the Lanshan when hiking big distances and warmer weather (it's got the mesh inner). A Pioneer when colder or wild camping (it's a good size for one and a small footprint). I have a Cloud Peak if I'm having to share. Thanks for responding and I'll have a look at trying some of your ideas soon. Any excuse to get outdoors is a good one. 👍
Anyone know the name of the knott that comes on the oiginal guy, that goes from the doors? I untied mine on first use.
It’s nothing special; just a knotted loop. But TBH you’ll be better off ditching that guyline and instead using a separate guyline, and bungees for the doors. See my original Lanshan 2 mods video for details Improve a Lanshan 2 Backpacking Tent? Try these 13 modifications
th-cam.com/video/b95uPpaorBo/w-d-xo.html
@@longsufferinghiker thankyou sir
Once you get it perfect you could just spray it with urethane. 15 or 20 coats should do it!
Eh?
Foot prints should never extend past the inter tent, it’s asking for big problems. It allows water to set between the two which gives the water time to penetrate the bathtub. Far worse than sitting directly on the ground.
I know what you're saying; any water sitting on the footprint is a problem. But I would just say that footprints should not extend close to the edge of the flysheet. My footprint covers only half of the vestibule area, so I don't encounter any problems. And the benefits of that extra area are certainly worth it.
The Lanshan 2 gets better again thanks to you 🏕️👍
Aw, thanks! ☺️