Honestly it probably depends, for me I review anything I can get my hands on but it entirely depends on what the Australian team is able to lend me. If they are not able to provide some model, then I'm not able to cover it, or I have to wait months to get it.
@@JarrodsTech wtf ur australian? Damn. I honestly had no idea, and I've watched some of your videos over the past year since getting a fx505dt-al043t, now I have noticed sort of thermal issues. It can get pretty hot up to like high 60s to maybe 70s, I've only figured out lately that I can limit the cpu tdp by the battery profile so I have it like 20% for school since then it'll last about 6 hrs but before that a whole 6 months I've been bringing my charger and it lasts 2 hours or 3 hrs max ... Well it is a 3rd generation ryzen but guess I should've expected that and the battery is limited. How do I make sure thermals won't go into high 60s the bios or software included doesn't seem to do much besides the the battery profile
Thanks for the review Jarrod. I actually have this as my daily driver and the highest temp it can go is around 85c when gaming despite having an ambient room temp of 28c. No throttling issues on my end. It's been a great budget buy so far.
@@JarrodsTech i have this weird thing where it just restart when gaming without any warning and then just wont start for sometime and clicking the power button does nothing. I do have the laptop connected to a display though could this be the reason? I tried playing game using the laptop display but it just not that great. Been thinking of selling it but i dunno since i got it on sale and buying new one with same spec will cost me 300 more than what i paid for it. And i already upgrade the ram and add a 2tb hardisk. If i decided to repaste it will it void the warranty
@@JarrodsTech that's true, also makes me wonder why not a lot of laptop manufacturers make bigger air-vents at the bottom, bigger and easily cleaned would be nice
glad that you added cooling pad to the test, even it didn't help much. But in the future, when you'll have already tested lots of units with cooling pad, we may see whether or not the different design of bottom air-vent can really effect to the temperature.
Will you be doing benchmark and thermal testing for Asus strix G g531 when you get it please? :) that’s the laptop I’ll be getting when it comes out, 1660ti version. I think it will be a pretty popular budget, or mid range gaming laptop.
Hmm I can't decide if I will buy this or Helios Acer Predator 300 I'm looking into Helios 300 but they are complaints about overheating! Over 90° Can you help me decide what to buy?
Jarrod, mate - Good Job as always and more same videos(thermals, chassis review, full review, comparisions). That really actual and needed *imho videos about "how many fps can do in 10-20 games" is totally not required, becouse we all know this numbers by heart with same configs and nothing something interesting there
I had one of these for 20 days. Luckily in my country ASUS gave 60 days return guarantee on TUF laptops as part of a promotion. My heart broke as I loved the machine but I had to return it. I was experiencing thermal throttling in almost every game, in some cases pretty severely occurring every two minutes, in other cases once or twice per hour. It's quite the possibility that I was just unlucky and my machine was simply faulty, but I choose to return it and get my money back. I'll choose an different manufacturer and will definitely side with Intel next time.
Hey man! Great channel, I always look forward to your reviews. I just recently bought a ASUS Zephyrus M with an I7-9750H and an RTX 2060. I also have a cooling pad. One thing that I do to try to get the best cooling is to raise the back of the laptop a little bit from the cooling pad to allow for better circulation and it helps a bit more, doesn’t make a massive difference, but pronounced than the difference that you are getting. Anyway, just another little piece of info. Keep up the great work.
Thanks! Yeah if the Zephyrus is one of the ones that lifts up and has a flat base I'd expect almost no change from a cooling pad, it really depends on the specific machine though. I've been testing the cooling pad for the last few months with many different machines and it really varies
First of all, you are the best laptop reviewer on the tube. I don't understand why you don't have more subs. Secondly, I bought the Fx505 with i7 + gtx 1060 you originally reviewed a few months back. I had to send it back after testing it for a couple of hours. The speed of the fans, even when set to quiet mode, generated an unbearable level of noise. And I am not talking while gaming, I am talking of staring at the desktop screen without even moving the mouse cursor. I was looking forward this AMD solution to see if it could be quieter. It seems that combining a gaming and quiet laptop into the same one is still out of reach. Maybe in future...
Thanks! Yeah that one is a little above average in terms of fan noise, not too much though, this one is a little quieter though, I suspect due to lower powered CPU that doesn't get as hot.
Thank you for this great review 😃 I'm waiting for helios 300 2019 with gtx 1660ti review ,and I will be very thankful if you compare it with this laptop (Asus)
If you get your hands on your own device, I'd love to see test results of replacing the thermal paste. I just purchased one and typically after playing the Witcher 3 for even 20 minutes, my CPU gets up to 90 degrees Celsius according to the Armoury Crate software this laptop comes with. I haven't had any experience with laptop CPU cooler disassembly. I appreciate both of your reviews on this machine though as it convinced me to go for the device!
@@EzioAuditore-vr1oy 4-3hour during full battery watching youtube and i dont test playing game because i always use full power so i plugged the power during gaming
Compare 3750H against the 8300H or 9300H. They are 4c/8t processors. I want to know which offers better performance and thermals with numbers. Actually I'm gonna buy one later this month that's why.
Under some conditions, usually dictated by the laptop manufacturer, the battery will not charge unless its under 95%. It’s likely not a power delivery issue.
Yes indeed, but sometimes it will keep draining until it reaches 0 so I think it's important to look into it. I left it running longer but didn't see further change in this instance.
Got this laptop about 6 months ago. One of my fans keep having problems with rattling (CPU), which from what I've seen, is a problem for a lot of the owners of this. My CPU thermals are also always high because Gaming of course but my GPU never seems to go above 60c for some reason.
Awesome video, how is the display? What do you think of the overall laptop (finally considering of getting one with the 17.3 inch display and gtx 1650)? Will it be a good choice?
Thanks I'll have full details on the display in the upcoming full review, but yeah it seems fine. About average brightness, decent contrast, low colour gamut but that's expected for a lower priced gaming machine. I haven't tested the 1650 yet so I don't know how it performs, I have one here that I need to test so I'll know soon.
I bought the fx505du it was about the same temps as yours I took the bottom panel and used a dremel to make my own vents right where the fans suck air and now the GPU only hits max of 66c and the CPU hits a max of 59c this is after repaste also
I own the DT version of this model of laptop, and this thing can take some hits in some games. Destiny 2 is cpu bound, but can reach 60+ fps easily. And fortnite on performance settings (graphical settings where you also have directx 11/12) will reach about around 100 fps. So this thing can take some good turns. But yes, air vents for intake could be better.
Depends if they send it over. The 8750H will smash the 3750H (I will compare this in future) but the 1660 Ti will beat the 1060 (might be able to do this in future).
@@JarrodsTech In that case, between the two, which would you actually grab? They're similar yet different enough to warrant a long thought as they are both pretty close to the others pricing.
@@invims Yeah but the two of them are an absolute steal of a price compared to the Predator. At least in my currency between the two theres a 100 to 200 difference. But for the predator its at least...400 in difference. But in my opinion, i believe the 17 inch would cream the 15.6 inch as there is much less of a bottle neck compared to the cpu. They are more on par with each other compared to the ryzen and the 1660ti. But thats a theory...A ga- But we havent seen it for real until Jarrod Does it. I'm hopeful for it! Because these two are an absolute bang for buck head on clash in my area and i cant bloody decide! xD
Here you go: Watching TH-cam (this laptop): 4 hours 58 mins Watching TH-cam (fx505 with 8750H): 4 hours 36 mins Difference is the 8750h battery is 4 cell 48wh, this one is 3 cell 48wh.
great review. Btw between this one and tuf 505 with i5 8300h and gtx 1060, which one do you think better? Can the i5 tuf get cooler than this one with undervolting?
Thanks, I have compared those two CPUs here so that might be useful: th-cam.com/video/qdD28DfxdRE/w-d-xo.html basically the 1660 Ti will win in terms of average FPS, but the better i5 CPU will probably give more consistent 1% lows.
I'd prefer more battery, the cooling already seems adequate and it's a little cooler than most others as is so I've got no problems with the temperatures.
@@JarrodsTech Battery irrelevant in a gaming PC, you will have it plugged in when playing anyway. Cooling is important so that you don't have noisy fans.
I have the 505-DU and while gaming like BF5 or Anno 2205 the average CPU temperature is about 87 to 90 degree. Sometimes it goes up to 97 to more than 100 and the CPU starts throttling for a moment. Room temperature is high here in Thailand, about 30 degree, but I use a cooling pad and a big fan is blowing fresh air directly to the laptop. I am concerned that this high CPU temperature could be harmful and wether it could be a warranty case. I think it's not normal. Bios version 307 and chipset driver up to date from Asus website. GPU temperature is ok with ~85°. What do you think?
@@marioquintero3580 of course. Rainbow Six Siege, PUBG, BF1, all are about 87-89 degree and often peaks more than 90 for some seconds. Epecially Anno 2205 ist even hitting more than 100 degree regularly. low graphic settings makes no difference.
That's a bit warmer than what I got, but you're in a warmer environment so could be expected. Not much you can do aside from raise it up off the desk, use a cooling pad, boost fan speed, change thermal paste.
@@JarrodsTech thanks for your opinion. I will improve the thermal paste someday, check warranty first. Do you know if it is possible to use liquid metal?
I bought it in June 2020 and I actually kinda regret it. The holes were too small and not enough to blow the air into the laptop and cause overheating issues. Maybe after the warranty, I will try to design an acrylic board for the bottom casing to add more holes and height on it. Btw I bought a 505dt version.
Hey Jarrod, I really think you have one of the best in depth videos for laptop reviews. But just a suggestion. Why don't you make your full review a summary mix of these thermal, gaming etc reviews and some subjective points rather than just repeating all of these sub review videos into one giant one. After a while it just becomes monotonous. I wanna know what you feel about the laptop. If i want to see detailed benchmarks i will gladly see your other videos. Just my opinion. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, I sort of do that with the gaming benchmarks and just show half the information and refer to the rest of the testing in the dedicated video, but for thermal testing I feel like there isn't much I can cut out from the full review. Maybe the CPU only/GPU only performance, I don't know. I think It's an important aspect and you're the first person to ever suggest it 😅 if you have a suggestion of which parts should stay in the full review and which would be better in the thermal testing video I'm happy to hear it.
@@JarrodsTech Normal video breakdown: Specs list down Configuration list down Chassis overview Dimensions Display (full) Build quality Camera Keyboard IO Design Speakers Remove bottom panel Internal configuration Battery Temperatures (Almost same as sub-review) Your opinion at the last (more in-depth than the dedicated thermal review video) Game review (way to in-depth for full review) Your opinion for gaming Benchmarks (only overview/ fast forwarding) Customization gaming review (not more than 1 or 2 review) Memory performance Pricing Overall thought My suggestions: Your opinions for thermals are self explanatory in my opinion. You can just say those and run the graphs. Those who just want a glance will be happy and you are showing b-rolls any ways while saying your thoughts so this might be better. Same can go for gaming. As you have a dedicated video for that anyways i would suggest you show multiple game benchmarks in one or two graph(s) and give your thoughts on it rather than just explaining the numbers. In my opinion, as i believe one must not make drastic changes in video format, these are some good options to start. I hope i was able to help. Thanks for considering my suggestion
Thanks for the review, my fx505du will up to 90 degree while playing heavy games, the performance in source games is bad, fps in dota 2 in a big combat will drop to 40, csgo barely go over 100, r6s will drop from 100 to 70 constantly. Bought my fx505du and add on 8 GB RAM/1TB SSD for 1113$ last May, If I lucky I can sell it for 980$ Price for a Helios 300 (i5 10300H + 2060) with add on RAM and SSD will be around 1282$ For a Nitro (i7 10750H + gtx 1660TI) with add on roughly around 1353$ So if I sell it and buy 1 of these 2, I will have to spend extra 433$ - 506$ (1 more option to go with AMD Ryzen 5 3600 desktop CPU and 2060, but still a laptop) I still have to pay extra 400-500$ Do you think it’s worth it for the change, or just bear with it and wait for some more years and get a 3x rtx series instead? Just afraid that the 3750H will get outdated very soon Appreciate your help!
@@JarrodsTech so after all I got the fx505GM version, with I7 8750h and gtx 1060 6gb, so far I am suuupet happy with it! I have only 8 gigs ram for a start but I'll be upgrading to 16 gigs later this summer
@@chaoseus nope! I absolutely love this machine :D but you will play plugged to the wall 99% of the time. The only problem so far that I have found is that sometimes when the screen switches to lower refresh rate on battery, the screen goes all messy and you have to change it back to 120hz manually to fix this, the other problem I have is entirely caused by windows (cpu/gpu spiking to 90% randomly when watching a vid/gif playing) but it happens on a lot of different computers and likely won't affect other of these laptops, that's just windows being windows
Hi jarrod i've had this laptop for a few months now, and im having temperature problems, the temperature goes up to 98° while playing games such as watch dogs 2 and hitman do you think thats normal? If not do you have a solution? (Sorry for bad grammar) Thanks! Edit: im already using a cooling pad
Hi, I know this video is a bit older. I just got this laptop a week ago and have been looking into cooling pads. Since what I got from the video is that they aren't necessary, my question is would it help the laptop in the long run? I like to take good care of my toys. Thank you for the video.
If the 180 watt power brick is not enough for long term gaming, it is worth it to buy better power brick? What do you recommend? Can this issue affect the battery?
i got the model with the gtx1660ti after watching all the positive review. it is underperforming very badly in games, though the benchmark results about the same as yours, i've tried reinstalling the drivers and os countless times. fps in apex legends is >20fps lower than in online tests :(, is anyone here having the same problem, please help guys :((.
Do you have single channel memory? Dual channel (2x sticks) will help a lot. I actually have a video coming out tomorrow where I compare this laptop with single and dual channel memory which may help you. Otherwise low FPS can also happen if you are playing on battery power.
@@khanhslee9053 I think you need to upgrade to dual channel ram.... My friend owned this laptop and he did swap for 16gb dual channel, he said that AMDs prefer dual channel memory...
You don't happen to have a colorimeter handy to check the displays sRGB coverage? Curious how it performs, my local Microcenter has 4 of these laptops for $1k, i suppose i could go grab one myself and check myself with my i1 display pro and report back for anyone that may be interested. I saw a forum post that claimed the display only covered 60% of sRGB which sounds really bad as well as claiming 20ms response times, not sure where they got such values as that just doesn't sound like a proper 120hz panel.
I do, I'll be covering colour gamut, screen brightness, and contrast ratio in the upcoming full review on Monday 👍 I'm not able to check response times, but yeah I got 63% sRGB for the 120Hz panel, pretty standard for lower cost gaming laptops like this it seems.
@@JarrodsTech Jeez thats really bad, my Dell S2417DG a rinky dink TN panel covers 90%+. Hard to believe a $1000 laptop can't at least manage that, not asking for a professional color critical display lol. Really is making me lean towards a second hand an alienware r3 oled. The 7700Q is basically on par with the 3750h, just the gtx 1060 is weaker. There is also the consideration though that this laptop has freesync support and is 120hz vs 60hz and no gsync/freesync. Tough decision especially when i already have an OLED tv and know what a huge difference it makes. The new OLED laptops expect you to shell out 2k+ just to get that display and i dont need a desktop replacement laptop.
I will cover this more in the full review tomorrow, but basically it's all solid plastic with a metal lid, feels pretty well built for a cheaper machine.
The 1650 model has significantly worse cooling inside, with just 3 copper heat-pipes total. and there isn't a lot of copper on the CPU/GPU either. I think it's very shady that they're sending out only the DU models which has all the cooling you see above, while the they skimp out on the DT/DY models. Most customers would assume they have the same internal layout with the only difference being chips inside.
Wow didnt know that version of this laptop with gtx 1650 has worse cooling. You sure about that? Have you compared the screens of cooling of both version of this notebook?
@@jozefstalin6522 th-cam.com/video/ko33MZVuldk/w-d-xo.html at the 7:31 mark compare the internals from this video to Jarrod's the 1650 model has a total of 3, compared to this one which has 5 and a lot more copper on the chips
Hey bro great work, if you could do a review of either the Asus Scar 3 RTX 2070 2019 model or /and Zephyrus S RTX 2019 models both of them with the new 240hz panel. That would be awesome, since Im trying to choose one of those to purchase this month. Cheers, keep up the great work.
Hi, I don't know if you'll see this but I have this exact setup including the RAM. I want to ask if you have any MSI afterburner settings for this laptop. I'm not very saavy in overclocking.
better thermal paste makes alot of makes a lot of difference in your experience? i'm having alot of fun seeing people liquid metal everything and getting great results but i wonder if just better pastes help
Liquid metal has a much higher conductivity rating than even the best thermal paste, I've only been able to repaste a couple of laptops so far with Thermal grizzly Kryonaut and I've got videos from each time. For the Aero 15x I saw no difference, with the Y530 I saw a couple degrees improvement, but yeah depends what quality they use out of the factory.
@@JarrodsTech I see, so it's no really worth it, I might try liquid metal in old notebooks and learn how to use it before messing with anything expensive haha thank you very much!
Hi could u pls tell me which do u think is preferrable when it comes to thermals build quality and screen quality the asus tuf fx505dt or acer nitro 5(2021)
What I've seen about the 3750H, the benachmarks they looked kinda bad imo. I ordered this laptop, than I started to look for benchmarks against 2600/2700/ X and non X, I5 and even I7 it stays for me way too much back, so I canceled the order Im going back to desktop. Maybe I was wrong, but it just looked like that comparing to others. It was such a chunk difference in charts even with the 2600 2700 , I dont get why it stays so behind, maybe cause its just quad core. But I saw gaming on this laptop and it looked really not bad.
Hi, You helped me alot for choosing the good laptop to buy, which I ended buying this one over the dell g3 with a intel. I'd like to change the thermal paste in it for liquid metal, do you know if it worth it ? and Can I ? I heard that some cooling system with aluminium are not compatiable with this. thank you
Good to hear I was able to help! Liquid metal can be dangerous if you don't know what you're doing, so definitely look into some guides for applying it. I have never done it myself, but you need to do a fair bit of preparation work to ensure there are no leaks or other issues. As it's conductive, if you get it on the motherboard or other components you can kill the machine. It would likely help improve thermals, but if I recall from my G3 review thermals weren't the limit as it runs with a lower power limit to avoid getting hot. Yes it would also depend on the metal used by the heatpipes in that machine, and I'm not sure what that was.
@@JarrodsTech Hey !, so I just change the oem thermal paste for kryonaut. I still hit the same temp ( about 89 ) but at a lower fan speed ! I took some picture of it if it can be usefull for you !
Can you check if you get the freesync enabled? Try enabling it in AMD settings and see if it can be applied i Nvidia settings :) Would be awesome if thete was a way to UV the AMD cpu. If you are able checking single vs dual chamnel ram would be interessting. It made up to a 35% improvement on the 3750H/1650-model according to notebookcheck in gam3s in fullhd.
I might check single vs dual channel if I have time, we'll see, there's a lot going on at the moment and I have to send this model back pretty soon 😢 I don't see the option to enable G-Sync compatible in the Nvidia control panel.
@@JarrodsTechApparently you must first activate freesync in the AMD-settings when using the iGPU, then it might be possible to activate it in Nvidia panel. forum.notebookreview.com/threads/asus-tuf-fx505du-mini-review.829041/ One guy managed to do it :) You must apparently use the AMD driver from amd.com, not the Asus preshipped. I understand if you don`t have the time :)
Seems mad that the Razer Blade 15 (Balanced mode) and Lenovo Legion Y740 are the only machines with acceptable fan noise this generation. Asus really dropped the ball.
The Blade gets 51db in my own testing under full load, same as this machine (well prior to turbo, but it's not that big of a leap to max). I expect this could be better if the bottom wasn't almost all solid plastic 🤔
Razer Blade is still flawed product in terms of cooling - if they provided more exhaust area such as side exhausts they would perform much better. Same goes for display hinge covering rear exhaust. They refuse to change that simply because they want their products to look as close to Apple products as possible even if it impacts the performance.
@@JarrodsTech Hey Jarrod. Yes, but balanced mode makes an enormous difference. The NBC review shows just how much difference it makes (42-45 dB compared to 50+ on everything else). Unlike many other machines who only have "silent" modes designed for light use, the RB in balanced mode can still play games at the highest settings with high fps numbers. I think this point is lost on a lot of tech reviewers. I know 2 people who bought the Blade based on the balanced mode fan noise (coupled with a relatively small loss of in-game fps). These are expensive machines, and a lot of adults aren't comfortable sitting in their study with some ridiculous RGB jet engine. Even Linus also makes a point of telling users to stick with balanced mode. I'm not sure why so many reviewers focus on fps benchmarks. It's fairly obvious what a machine fitted with a 2070mq + i7-9750h is going to net you fps wise (at least a ballpark figure). What's far more interesting is what the temps are like, what the surface temps feels like in use, and whether it sounds like a jet engine. And then on top of this, whether there's a mode which reduces performance by ~10% while decreasing noise by 30%. Anyway, I really appreciate your work. Been watching since your initial P650RE Metabox review :)
ok so what im getting is that a cooling pad will actually lower the temps of the fx505? because im a little skeptical because they blocked off the vents on the bottom
@@JarrodsTech It does matter, many old Asus ROG laptops used to have bad cooling - part of the reason is no intake vents. Same applies to some new models like Zenbook Pro (no intake vents at all) For FX505, the thermals are not that hot. But if compared to other models with good cooling then it's a different story
How about an Acer Nitro 5 of equal specs, do you think it can cool better? I watched your review of a Nitro 5 with an intel CPU and the temps were scary! 😱
I had the same laptop and I constantly was overheating I would have to have my afterburner on just to make sure it wasn’t going to melt because it was at a constant 91 c playing fortnite
1:04 . After several weeks observation between ryzen 3750h and 1660ti thermal, yes they are affecting each other because of the heatsink. First i got 70 -80 Celcius degree on the processor full running gaming with only integrated gpu ryzen 7, when full running along with 1660ti with 75-85 Celcius degree and the processor got 80-100 Celcius degree. I assume that was overheating and made the processor throttling. I've done repaste with noctua nt h1 and it seems not much helped with same outcome. what about your opinions if i cut the heatsink between cpu and gpu? So the temperature of both will not effecting each other. ps: the ambient temperature is 24 Celsius degree By the way, thanks for the information of your video
You could try install the aura sync software through windows store, or yeah reinstall that. I think some of them don't have RGB lighting, so could be worth double checking the listing where you bought it.
For overheating issues while gaming go into Power Management and adjust 'Minimum Processor State' to 99% 'Plugged In'. Next go to 'Maximum Processor State' and adjust both 'On Battery' and 'Plugged In' to 99%. This will not impact the performance of games and should ensure the temperature is within safe limits when these settings are saved.
I've heard people say that but have never given it a go. Temperatures should remain within safe limits by default, if they don't, it will physically turn itself off.
@@JarrodsTech from reading the Asus help page it actually states 105 degrees being the limit! The games I've tested so far it haven't gone past 75 degrees (normally low 70's) which is a major difference to 93 degrees! This is a great laptop even if not at the very top end, hopefully it will give people some piece of mind.
I have the same laptop , and 30 or so mins into a game, the laptop shows a “locking” screen and goes to sleep, this happens particularly on performance mode, should I assume that it’s because of the temperatures crossing 85c?
@@maazshaikh9998 use the Armoury Crate software on the laptop. Search it in the Windows menu and it'll pop up. You can then monitor the temperature when you start a game. My laptop went into turbo most of the time. After I did the fix I've noted it's resolved things amazingly.
Dan Flashbang yea I use armory crate and I’ve seen temps touch 85c, turbo mode is loud but it works great, this issue only happens on performance mode , nevertheless I’ll try your fix and see what happens
I own this exact model I'm here because the shitty laptop get insanely hot I'm talking 100°c while gaming and around 76 - 85 while idle The nvidia doesn't go that high tho, I think its an issue with the Amd chip
guys all of the temperatures might fairly low but try to game 2 hours without stop even with cooler pad. i have acer predator Helios 300 with gtx 1060 6gb and it's going hot even in turbo mode for the fans.
It will make no change. I start my tests off by running Aida64+Heaven and leave them running for 30 mins before doing anything, by this point full heat saturation has taken place, the is no further change if I leave it running for another 10 hours. After this first 30 mins of heat soak, I then let each data point run for a further 30 mins and take the average, so I am confident these are worst case (at least with a 21c ambient temp).
I just picked up the GA502 with the same exact specs, im guessing it's the North American version of this machine. It does look a little less dialed back on the gaming look. Anyways I've found that my machine is also running pretty good thermally. I do plan on reapplying some thermal paste though. Hopefully it will knock down the overall temp.
Are there any cooling pad recommendations that might work well with this 'book? It seems the TT RGB thing didnt help much.... but I was thinking perhaps one with a few smaller fans, instead of one big one, might work better _IF_ you could position the bottom vent directly over a fan. Any suggestions? Any other designs that might work?
Any, they all work basically the same (I'm working on a cooling pad comparison video now, will be up in a week or two, the summary is that it makes no major difference they all do pretty much the same).
@@JarrodsTech Thanks for the reply! I love the depth you are going to in your reviews. Measurable, objective data free of BS and fluff. Kind of the antithesis of the all too common 'unboxing' video calling itself a review. For $20 or $30 I am tempted to try a cooling pad with 3 fans in a triangle layout. I think I can get 2 fans directly under the 2 bottom vents. And as long as it has some USB ports, it's not money wasted since it can be cheap 'docking station' if it doesn't cool much. Do I NEED extra cooling on this notebook? Nah. Do I want it if I can get it? Sure, cooler is always better. But based on your data, I am basically expecting to buy a USB hub that MIGHT, as a bonus, cool the system a bit. My craziest idea is to do something like this: th-cam.com/video/INfSuqxtvIg/w-d-xo.html Custom build and place some Noctuas perfectly in the grill to hopefully force some cool air into the bottom vents (I do have a high opinion of Noctua, so logic is, if a couple of Noctuas can't make a difference placed optimally, then nothing is going to make a difference on this notebook and I can rule out any temp gains with a cooling pad) At the end of the day, we are probably only chasing a few degrees.... it seems ASUS actually engineered a good cooling design into these books, so I suspect big gains will only be seen on notebooks that aren't as well designed for heat dissipation. Kudos to Asus for this btw. I am definitely looking forward to your comparison of cooling pads. If either of my ideas actually pan out and show any gains, I will be certain to let you know.
Honestly, seeing power throttling on CPU and overall a little underwhelming Ryzen performance, i'm more and more interested in MSI GE63 with i5-8300 and 1660 Ti. I costs good 100-150 bucks more but even then seems to be just a better value. I think it may come down to the 120+Hz screen quality for me. I'm really puzzled why there is no reviews on these two machine yet. They both look like the definition of a 2019 budget gaming laptop.
Yeah don't get a MSI. I had a MSI Apache Pro ge62 with a GTX 960m. And it had the WORST build quality ever! That keyboard stoppeed working like after two years! And since they used melted plastic to hold it on, I had to go though a painful process of gluing it in because there was no way I could bolt it back on. Plus I broke the screen during the repair. Anyway, unless it has changed since I bought that laptop in 2015, I would not recommend MSI as a company.
@@everestsdriveway366 Thanks for sharing. Idk i heard they improved the quality of building. When i was buying my current laptop, in 2013 i think, MSI models looed bloody awful. Now they look much, much better. Still cheap plastic in budget models. I guess, you cant have it all. Good specs come with a price.
@@bananapeel3529 very true, but you can't have horrible build quality in something that is supposed to be portable. Not something that has to treated like a glass panel that is one milimeter thick. It has to feel like something that can survive in a bag.
To be clear, hitting the power limit is the expected scenario. Being able to hit this rather than thermal throttling is preferable. The 3750H is rated with a 35W TDP, so this is expected, we're getting full performance. Many Intel laptops only go to 45W, but some manufacturers do allow the CPU to run above spec with higher TDP, not sure if any AMD laptops allow that though, this is only the second one I've ever tested so I don't know if that's something they do.
Hey, Jarrod. It's me again! I got a deal for Asus Zephyrus (GX501GI-EI011T) at $1815 and Acer Predator Helios 500 at $1560 and now I'm not sure which one I should buy. Any suggestion?
The Helios will likely run cooler but it is much thicker as a result, I think it depends more on if you want a thinner machine for more money, or a more powerful but larger machine for less money.
I have an fx505dy and it will overheat and shut down when I'm playing games while the laptop is plugged into the charger. I don't know what to do to fix it.
My full review for the ASUS TUF FX505DU gaming laptop is here: th-cam.com/video/fNVoLFldxlA/w-d-xo.html
I bought the same one and the temperature is reaching 104 degree
Patiently waiting before I purchase. Keep it up man!
@@abdalrhmanmohisen1684 never let it cross above 90 ,go to service center and ask them to repaste
Hi Jarrod,
I bought the same laptop. I like it but did you have problems too with the armoury crate application?
can u run temp test with bottom panel open? just to see how much proper bottom vents could hav impacted temps and performance?
Bro you are uploading too much videos. Take care of yourself . Dont stress your eyes and mind
Haha, thanks, I'll be ok 😛
Gay
@@fanolasno5242 no u
He has become a zombie by now, so no worries
Dude! You can make a money from YT,including mobile someone can hack your phone no. African and macau money scam
its a shame that alot of youtubers sleep on this laptop to review tho
Honestly it probably depends, for me I review anything I can get my hands on but it entirely depends on what the Australian team is able to lend me. If they are not able to provide some model, then I'm not able to cover it, or I have to wait months to get it.
Jarrod'sTech what is game you played at the beginning of the video
@@wcrsb overwatch.
@@JarrodsTech wtf ur australian? Damn. I honestly had no idea, and I've watched some of your videos over the past year since getting a fx505dt-al043t, now I have noticed sort of thermal issues. It can get pretty hot up to like high 60s to maybe 70s, I've only figured out lately that I can limit the cpu tdp by the battery profile so I have it like 20% for school since then it'll last about 6 hrs but before that a whole 6 months I've been bringing my charger and it lasts 2 hours or 3 hrs max ... Well it is a 3rd generation ryzen but guess I should've expected that and the battery is limited. How do I make sure thermals won't go into high 60s the bios or software included doesn't seem to do much besides the the battery profile
@@andrewmtgx 70 is not too hot for a laptop don't worry, over 90 it's starting to get too hot
Thanks for the Thermal Test, I really wanted to know how hot this device gets.
No problem!
Thanks for the review Jarrod.
I actually have this as my daily driver and the highest temp it can go is around 85c when gaming despite having an ambient room temp of 28c. No throttling issues on my end. It's been a great budget buy so far.
No problem! Good to hear, thanks for sharing your experience with it 😃
@@JarrodsTech i have this weird thing where it just restart when gaming without any warning and then just wont start for sometime and clicking the power button does nothing. I do have the laptop connected to a display though could this be the reason? I tried playing game using the laptop display but it just not that great. Been thinking of selling it but i dunno since i got it on sale and buying new one with same spec will cost me 300 more than what i paid for it. And i already upgrade the ram and add a 2tb hardisk. If i decided to repaste it will it void the warranty
I think a comparison between asus tuf 505 du, acer nitro 5 and new dell g3 would be awesome. 👌
Yeah would be good
@@JarrodsTech do you have acer nitro 5 intel
Waiting for full review. Nice work!
Thanks!
Thanks for the info. I bought the du model today after watching your 19 game video. Stoked to see what else you got.
Cool! I have some more videos featuring the DU coming soon.
its like watching a scientific paper but exciting
Haha 😅
Maybe too late but don't........thermals go very high
The fans are bull crap too
Love your videos
You are underrated😬😬
Thanks!
Great video, this may be the laptop I end up getting
Thanks!
Cooling pads are usually more effective for warmer climates, from what I've seen with most of the laptops I've used
I think it depends most on the openings underneath, if there's no space for air to get in it's not going to help.
@@JarrodsTech that's true, also makes me wonder why not a lot of laptop manufacturers make bigger air-vents at the bottom, bigger and easily cleaned would be nice
Please review the new Helios 300 with the 1660ti!
I concur
I'm just waiting for them to send one over.
glad that you added cooling pad to the test, even it didn't help much. But in the future, when you'll have already tested lots of units with cooling pad, we may see whether or not the different design of bottom air-vent can really effect to the temperature.
Yeah I've been using the cooling pad for all thermal testing for the last few months, so already have a fair bit of data with it.
Will you be doing benchmark and thermal testing for Asus strix G g531 when you get it please? :) that’s the laptop I’ll be getting when it comes out, 1660ti version. I think it will be a pretty popular budget, or mid range gaming laptop.
I'm not sure yet, I've asked for it but they don't have review units available in Australia at this time, the Scar III is coming first.
Asus did a goodjob in terms of thermal of their new TUF laptop unlike their previous product before 🤣
Could also just be the 3750H, the internals look pretty good though, but yeah weird about the vents on the bottom I think it could be better.
Hmm I can't decide if I will buy this or Helios Acer Predator 300
I'm looking into Helios 300 but they are complaints about overheating! Over 90°
Can you help me decide what to buy?
@@JarrodsTech please reply :)
A review from my favorite tech channel
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Jarrod, mate - Good Job as always and more same videos(thermals, chassis review, full review, comparisions). That really actual and needed
*imho
videos about "how many fps can do in 10-20 games" is totally not required, becouse we all know this numbers by heart with same configs and nothing something interesting there
Thanks! Maybe, a lot of people want to see FPS numbers though 😁
I had one of these for 20 days. Luckily in my country ASUS gave 60 days return guarantee on TUF laptops as part of a promotion. My heart broke as I loved the machine but I had to return it. I was experiencing thermal throttling in almost every game, in some cases pretty severely occurring every two minutes, in other cases once or twice per hour. It's quite the possibility that I was just unlucky and my machine was simply faulty, but I choose to return it and get my money back. I'll choose an different manufacturer and will definitely side with Intel next time.
Thanks no good. What temperatures were the CPU/GPU hitting? What is your room temperature you were using it in?
Same thing for me
I have the same problem on my laptop
Hey man! Great channel, I always look forward to your reviews. I just recently bought a ASUS Zephyrus M with an I7-9750H and an RTX 2060. I also have a cooling pad. One thing that I do to try to get the best cooling is to raise the back of the laptop a little bit from the cooling pad to allow for better circulation and it helps a bit more, doesn’t make a massive difference, but pronounced than the difference that you are getting. Anyway, just another little piece of info. Keep up the great work.
Try undervolting and repasting. I recommend Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut.
Cooling Pads won't cool Zephyrus laptops that much (almost no difference)
Thanks! Yeah if the Zephyrus is one of the ones that lifts up and has a flat base I'd expect almost no change from a cooling pad, it really depends on the specific machine though. I've been testing the cooling pad for the last few months with many different machines and it really varies
Another good video as always, thumbs up 👍
Thanks!
Just on time you uploaded this video. Thank you and God bless you
Good timing!
First of all, you are the best laptop reviewer on the tube. I don't understand why you don't have more subs.
Secondly, I bought the Fx505 with i7 + gtx 1060 you originally reviewed a few months back. I had to send it back after testing it for a couple of hours. The speed of the fans, even when set to quiet mode, generated an unbearable level of noise. And I am not talking while gaming, I am talking of staring at the desktop screen without even moving the mouse cursor. I was looking forward this AMD solution to see if it could be quieter. It seems that combining a gaming and quiet laptop into the same one is still out of reach. Maybe in future...
Thanks! Yeah that one is a little above average in terms of fan noise, not too much though, this one is a little quieter though, I suspect due to lower powered CPU that doesn't get as hot.
I bought yesterday Fx505Du Ryzen 7 + Gtx 1660ti and I have the same problem.
Noice, between this and the Zephyrus GA502 is a very tough choice to choose
Yeah will be interesting to compare with that one.
In terms of performance, this tuf is better since the zephyrus has mQ graphics card. but it means it runs a little hotter
I am looking forward to comparising with Predator Helios 300 2019 model and you are good man 👍
This would be awesome
Cheers! Just waiting for Acer to send one over.
Yavuz Arslan agree!
Mann you always Exceed my expectations 🙌🙌
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I may need a review on Asus Rog Strix G G531G on cooling. Thanks
Trying to get that model, just waiting for a review unit to be available in Australia.
Thank you for this great review 😃
I'm waiting for helios 300 2019 with gtx 1660ti review ,and I will be very thankful if you compare it with this laptop (Asus)
Cheers! Just waiting for them to send one over.
Will you do this for the new Acer Nitro 5?
If they send one over, yes
If you get your hands on your own device, I'd love to see test results of replacing the thermal paste. I just purchased one and typically after playing the Witcher 3 for even 20 minutes, my CPU gets up to 90 degrees Celsius according to the Armoury Crate software this laptop comes with. I haven't had any experience with laptop CPU cooler disassembly. I appreciate both of your reviews on this machine though as it convinced me to go for the device!
u need a cooling pad plus repaste your cpu with liquid metal !!
Yeah I'd like to, no plans at the moment as I'd have to buy it.
The Review was very helping , thanks
I gonna take the FX505DT
Glad I could help!
Notify us about the battery life after you buy it
@@EzioAuditore-vr1oy 4-3hour during full battery watching youtube and i dont test playing game because i always use full power so i plugged the power during gaming
Compare 3750H against the 8300H or 9300H. They are 4c/8t processors. I want to know which offers better performance and thermals with numbers. Actually I'm gonna buy one later this month that's why.
I'm literally writing that comparison right now 😎
@@JarrodsTech That would really be helpful. I'll surely be one of the first to watch.
Under some conditions, usually dictated by the laptop manufacturer, the battery will not charge unless its under 95%. It’s likely not a power delivery issue.
Yes indeed, but sometimes it will keep draining until it reaches 0 so I think it's important to look into it. I left it running longer but didn't see further change in this instance.
Did you measure power draw at the wall? Are you aware that HWInfo64, if updated for the laptop, can report total system power draw too?
I am aware of that, no I did not bother.
Thank you sir @jarrod tech for this review, i had seen a lot of downside of this laptop due to cooling and thermal system itself
No problem
So long story short.... IT'S REALLY FUCKING KOOL!!! GREAT VID DUDE!!!
lol, thanks
@@JarrodsTech always dude! You put out great content all the time!!! got to give you your props!!!
Got this laptop about 6 months ago. One of my fans keep having problems with rattling (CPU), which from what I've seen, is a problem for a lot of the owners of this. My CPU thermals are also always high because Gaming of course but my GPU never seems to go above 60c for some reason.
What do you think about it?
you can cut more ventilation holes in the bottom panel
I don't see why not. Maybe test with the bottom panel off first to see if more opening even helps before doing irreversible damage.
great video, that laptop is pretty decent, what does it sell for on average?
Thanks! It's about $1100 USD for these specs in the US at the moment.
Awesome video, how is the display? What do you think of the overall laptop (finally considering of getting one with the 17.3 inch display and gtx 1650)? Will it be a good choice?
Thanks I'll have full details on the display in the upcoming full review, but yeah it seems fine. About average brightness, decent contrast, low colour gamut but that's expected for a lower priced gaming machine. I haven't tested the 1650 yet so I don't know how it performs, I have one here that I need to test so I'll know soon.
Comparing this with Acer Nitro 5 or Nitro 7 (also with the 1660ti) would be awesome
I'll see what I can do, depends what Acer are able to send out.
I bought the fx505du it was about the same temps as yours I took the bottom panel and used a dremel to make my own vents right where the fans suck air and now the GPU only hits max of 66c and the CPU hits a max of 59c this is after repaste also
That's quite a good difference!
@@JarrodsTech ya big difference my CPU also hits 4ghz
Hi TheoneNonly. Might I ask whether you used cooling pad or not after repasting and making vents to get 59-66oC?
What thermal paste did you use?
@@ngoctran2165 no cooling pad
I own the DT version of this model of laptop, and this thing can take some hits in some games. Destiny 2 is cpu bound, but can reach 60+ fps easily. And fortnite on performance settings (graphical settings where you also have directx 11/12) will reach about around 100 fps. So this thing can take some good turns. But yes, air vents for intake could be better.
Do you ever sleep???? Btw waiting for the aero 15 review...
Nope! Waiting for them to send that one over, they were pretty keen at Computex, so should be able to get it once it's available.
What about the ASUS FX705GM-NH74? I'd love to see a comparison of these two.
Depends if they send it over. The 8750H will smash the 3750H (I will compare this in future) but the 1660 Ti will beat the 1060 (might be able to do this in future).
@@JarrodsTech In that case, between the two, which would you actually grab? They're similar yet different enough to warrant a long thought as they are both pretty close to the others pricing.
@@invims Yeah. I wish they did a 17 inch of the I7 and the 1660 ti. That would be the best bang for buck by a long shot.
@@invims Yeah but the two of them are an absolute steal of a price compared to the Predator. At least in my currency between the two theres a 100 to 200 difference. But for the predator its at least...400 in difference.
But in my opinion, i believe the 17 inch would cream the 15.6 inch as there is much less of a bottle neck compared to the cpu. They are more on par with each other compared to the ryzen and the 1660ti. But thats a theory...A ga- But we havent seen it for real until Jarrod Does it. I'm hopeful for it! Because these two are an absolute bang for buck head on clash in my area and i cant bloody decide! xD
Pls review the ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GU502GU?
I'm working on getting it.
@@JarrodsTech yea we would like that.
I would like to see performance and battery life comparison for this laptop's 8750H vs 3750H
Here you go:
Watching TH-cam (this laptop): 4 hours 58 mins
Watching TH-cam (fx505 with 8750H): 4 hours 36 mins
Difference is the 8750h battery is 4 cell 48wh, this one is 3 cell 48wh.
Thanks! good look at the thermals!
No problem!
haha
you should do a headset series and see how people like it!
I probably haven't tested enough yet 😅 I think I've only ever done one on the channel?
great review. Btw between this one and tuf 505 with i5 8300h and gtx 1060, which one do you think better? Can the i5 tuf get cooler than this one with undervolting?
Thanks, I have compared those two CPUs here so that might be useful: th-cam.com/video/qdD28DfxdRE/w-d-xo.html basically the 1660 Ti will win in terms of average FPS, but the better i5 CPU will probably give more consistent 1% lows.
Got new ram stick to run dual ram on FX505GM ( and Samsung 970 NVMe ssd) and I'm getting 30-50% better FPS. So happy!
30% to 50%? What?!
@@dimagagarin6778 yes, not to mention that they were already very good. For example fortnite went from 100 fps avg to over 160fps on max settings.
@@Legitti is ur config ryzen 7 3750h and 1660ti ?
@@redvenom6692 i7 8750h, GTX 1060 6gb and 144hz IPS screen.
Nice one! Yeah dual channel makes a big difference, depends on the game and setting of course.
I wish they dumped the obsolete 2.5" slot and used the space for quieter, better cooling.
I'd prefer more battery, the cooling already seems adequate and it's a little cooler than most others as is so I've got no problems with the temperatures.
@@JarrodsTech Battery irrelevant in a gaming PC, you will have it plugged in when playing anyway. Cooling is important so that you don't have noisy fans.
I have the 505-DU and while gaming like BF5 or Anno 2205 the average CPU temperature is about 87 to 90 degree. Sometimes it goes up to 97 to more than 100 and the CPU starts throttling for a moment. Room temperature is high here in Thailand, about 30 degree, but I use a cooling pad and a big fan is blowing fresh air directly to the laptop. I am concerned that this high CPU temperature could be harmful and wether it could be a warranty case. I think it's not normal. Bios version 307 and chipset driver up to date from Asus website. GPU temperature is ok with ~85°. What do you think?
Just with bf5? Do you test another games ?
@@marioquintero3580 of course. Rainbow Six Siege, PUBG, BF1, all are about 87-89 degree and often peaks more than 90 for some seconds. Epecially Anno 2205 ist even hitting more than 100 degree regularly. low graphic settings makes no difference.
That's a bit warmer than what I got, but you're in a warmer environment so could be expected. Not much you can do aside from raise it up off the desk, use a cooling pad, boost fan speed, change thermal paste.
Do what jarrod saying and tell us how are temps please
@@JarrodsTech thanks for your opinion. I will improve the thermal paste someday, check warranty first. Do you know if it is possible to use liquid metal?
I bought it in June 2020 and I actually kinda regret it. The holes were too small and not enough to blow the air into the laptop and cause overheating issues. Maybe after the warranty, I will try to design an acrylic board for the bottom casing to add more holes and height on it. Btw I bought a 505dt version.
I hope you will compare it to Predator Hellios 300(with i7 9750h and 1660ti)
I'll see what I can do, depends what Acer are able to send out.
Hey Jarrod, I really think you have one of the best in depth videos for laptop reviews. But just a suggestion. Why don't you make your full review a summary mix of these thermal, gaming etc reviews and some subjective points rather than just repeating all of these sub review videos into one giant one. After a while it just becomes monotonous. I wanna know what you feel about the laptop. If i want to see detailed benchmarks i will gladly see your other videos. Just my opinion. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, I sort of do that with the gaming benchmarks and just show half the information and refer to the rest of the testing in the dedicated video, but for thermal testing I feel like there isn't much I can cut out from the full review. Maybe the CPU only/GPU only performance, I don't know. I think It's an important aspect and you're the first person to ever suggest it 😅 if you have a suggestion of which parts should stay in the full review and which would be better in the thermal testing video I'm happy to hear it.
@@JarrodsTech Normal video breakdown:
Specs list down
Configuration list down
Chassis overview
Dimensions
Display (full)
Build quality
Camera
Keyboard
IO
Design
Speakers
Remove bottom panel
Internal configuration
Battery
Temperatures (Almost same as sub-review)
Your opinion at the last (more in-depth than the dedicated thermal review video)
Game review (way to in-depth for full review)
Your opinion for gaming
Benchmarks (only overview/ fast forwarding)
Customization gaming review (not more than 1 or 2 review)
Memory performance
Pricing
Overall thought
My suggestions:
Your opinions for thermals are self explanatory in my opinion. You can just say those and run the graphs. Those who just want a glance will be happy and you are showing b-rolls any ways while saying your thoughts so this might be better.
Same can go for gaming. As you have a dedicated video for that anyways i would suggest you show multiple game benchmarks in one or two graph(s) and give your thoughts on it rather than just explaining the numbers.
In my opinion, as i believe one must not make drastic changes in video format, these are some good options to start.
I hope i was able to help. Thanks for considering my suggestion
Do undervolting and test thermals again please
3:14
what app did you use to undevolt the CPU and by how much thanks
Thanks for the review, my fx505du will up to 90 degree while playing heavy games, the performance in source games is bad, fps in dota 2 in a big combat will drop to 40, csgo barely go over 100, r6s will drop from 100 to 70 constantly.
Bought my fx505du and add on 8 GB RAM/1TB SSD for 1113$ last May, If I lucky I can sell it for 980$
Price for a Helios 300 (i5 10300H + 2060) with add on RAM and SSD will be around 1282$
For a Nitro (i7 10750H + gtx 1660TI) with add on roughly around 1353$
So if I sell it and buy 1 of these 2, I will have to spend extra 433$ - 506$ (1 more option to go with AMD Ryzen 5 3600 desktop CPU and 2060, but still a laptop) I still have to pay extra 400-500$
Do you think it’s worth it for the change, or just bear with it and wait for some more years and get a 3x rtx series instead?
Just afraid that the 3750H will get outdated very soon
Appreciate your help!
I am so gonna get this laptop in a few weeks :D
Nice! Let us know how it goes 👍
@@JarrodsTech so after all I got the fx505GM version, with I7 8750h and gtx 1060 6gb, so far I am suuupet happy with it! I have only 8 gigs ram for a start but I'll be upgrading to 16 gigs later this summer
@@TheDartFrog any thermal issues bro?
@@chaoseus nope! I absolutely love this machine :D but you will play plugged to the wall 99% of the time. The only problem so far that I have found is that sometimes when the screen switches to lower refresh rate on battery, the screen goes all messy and you have to change it back to 120hz manually to fix this, the other problem I have is entirely caused by windows (cpu/gpu spiking to 90% randomly when watching a vid/gif playing) but it happens on a lot of different computers and likely won't affect other of these laptops, that's just windows being windows
Hi jarrod i've had this laptop for a few months now, and im having temperature problems, the temperature goes up to 98° while playing games such as watch dogs 2 and hitman do you think thats normal? If not do you have a solution? (Sorry for bad grammar) Thanks!
Edit: im already using a cooling pad
we have the same laptop and same problem I aready scheduled it in the service center
Hi, I know this video is a bit older. I just got this laptop a week ago and have been looking into cooling pads. Since what I got from the video is that they aren't necessary, my question is would it help the laptop in the long run? I like to take good care of my toys. Thank you for the video.
Could do, generally cooler does better long term.
If the 180 watt power brick is not enough for long term gaming, it is worth it to buy better power brick? What do you recommend? Can this issue affect the battery?
can you do thermal testing acer nitro 5?
Once they send it over, yeah
i got the model with the gtx1660ti after watching all the positive review. it is underperforming very badly in games, though the benchmark results about the same as yours, i've tried reinstalling the drivers and os countless times. fps in apex legends is >20fps lower than in online tests :(, is anyone here having the same problem, please help guys :((.
Do you have single channel memory? Dual channel (2x sticks) will help a lot. I actually have a video coming out tomorrow where I compare this laptop with single and dual channel memory which may help you. Otherwise low FPS can also happen if you are playing on battery power.
@@JarrodsTech thanks for replying, i heard that it would help, but i wanted find other solution before spending the money on upgrading the ram
@@khanhslee9053 I think you need to upgrade to dual channel ram.... My friend owned this laptop and he did swap for 16gb dual channel, he said that AMDs prefer dual channel memory...
You don't happen to have a colorimeter handy to check the displays sRGB coverage? Curious how it performs, my local Microcenter has 4 of these laptops for $1k, i suppose i could go grab one myself and check myself with my i1 display pro and report back for anyone that may be interested. I saw a forum post that claimed the display only covered 60% of sRGB which sounds really bad as well as claiming 20ms response times, not sure where they got such values as that just doesn't sound like a proper 120hz panel.
I do, I'll be covering colour gamut, screen brightness, and contrast ratio in the upcoming full review on Monday 👍 I'm not able to check response times, but yeah I got 63% sRGB for the 120Hz panel, pretty standard for lower cost gaming laptops like this it seems.
@@JarrodsTech Jeez thats really bad, my Dell S2417DG a rinky dink TN panel covers 90%+. Hard to believe a $1000 laptop can't at least manage that, not asking for a professional color critical display lol. Really is making me lean towards a second hand an alienware r3 oled. The 7700Q is basically on par with the 3750h, just the gtx 1060 is weaker. There is also the consideration though that this laptop has freesync support and is 120hz vs 60hz and no gsync/freesync. Tough decision especially when i already have an OLED tv and know what a huge difference it makes. The new OLED laptops expect you to shell out 2k+ just to get that display and i dont need a desktop replacement laptop.
How is the build quality of the laptop? Lid rigidity etc ? Thanks great video as always!
I will cover this more in the full review tomorrow, but basically it's all solid plastic with a metal lid, feels pretty well built for a cheaper machine.
The 1650 model has significantly worse cooling inside, with just 3 copper heat-pipes total. and there isn't a lot of copper on the CPU/GPU either.
I think it's very shady that they're sending out only the DU models which has all the cooling you see above, while the they skimp out on the DT/DY models.
Most customers would assume they have the same internal layout with the only difference being chips inside.
Wow didnt know that version of this laptop with gtx 1650 has worse cooling. You sure about that? Have you compared the screens of cooling of both version of this notebook?
@@jozefstalin6522 th-cam.com/video/ko33MZVuldk/w-d-xo.html at the 7:31 mark
compare the internals from this video to Jarrod's
the 1650 model has a total of 3, compared to this one which has 5 and a lot more copper on the chips
If they send out the lower end models I'll be sure to mention that.
Jarrod, do you think it's slightly dumb that they added 2666mhz ram to power a 2400mhz supported cpu...
Hey bro great work, if you could do a review of either the Asus Scar 3 RTX 2070 2019 model or /and Zephyrus S RTX 2019 models both of them with the new 240hz panel. That would be awesome, since Im trying to choose one of those to purchase this month.
Cheers, keep up the great work.
Thanks! The Scar III is actually arriving later today, but not sure what specs it's coming with.
Hi, I don't know if you'll see this but I have this exact setup including the RAM. I want to ask if you have any MSI afterburner settings for this laptop. I'm not very saavy in overclocking.
I'm hoping you could get a Zephyrus G to review, that's a nice looking laptop.
I hope so too! Just waiting for them to have one available to borrow, they're sending the Scar III next up.
better thermal paste makes alot of makes a lot of difference in your experience? i'm having alot of fun seeing people liquid metal everything and getting great results but i wonder if just better pastes help
Liquid metal has a much higher conductivity rating than even the best thermal paste, I've only been able to repaste a couple of laptops so far with Thermal grizzly Kryonaut and I've got videos from each time. For the Aero 15x I saw no difference, with the Y530 I saw a couple degrees improvement, but yeah depends what quality they use out of the factory.
@@JarrodsTech I see, so it's no really worth it, I might try liquid metal in old notebooks and learn how to use it before messing with anything expensive haha thank you very much!
Hi could u pls tell me which do u think is preferrable when it comes to thermals build quality and screen quality the asus tuf fx505dt or acer nitro 5(2021)
Please make a compare between
Ryzen 7 3750H
Intel i7 8750H
Intel i5 8300H
I'm working on it now (literally doing CPU tests on this machine right now for those comparisons).
@@JarrodsTech
Thank you bro ❤❤❤
No problem!
What I've seen about the 3750H, the benachmarks they looked kinda bad imo. I ordered this laptop, than I started to look for benchmarks against 2600/2700/ X and non X, I5 and even I7 it stays for me way too much back, so I canceled the order Im going back to desktop. Maybe I was wrong, but it just looked like that comparing to others. It was such a chunk difference in charts even with the 2600 2700 , I dont get why it stays so behind, maybe cause its just quad core. But I saw gaming on this laptop and it looked really not bad.
Nice video. Thank you.
Cheers!
Nice vid Jarrod. What’s the software in 1:08 ? Thanks
Thanks! It's the ASUS Armory crate software, it comes with the laptop and recent ASUS laptops.
Thanks a lot😊😊
No problem!
Hi, You helped me alot for choosing the good laptop to buy, which I ended buying this one over the dell g3 with a intel. I'd like to change the thermal paste in it for liquid metal, do you know if it worth it ? and Can I ? I heard that some cooling system with aluminium are not compatiable with this. thank you
Good to hear I was able to help! Liquid metal can be dangerous if you don't know what you're doing, so definitely look into some guides for applying it. I have never done it myself, but you need to do a fair bit of preparation work to ensure there are no leaks or other issues. As it's conductive, if you get it on the motherboard or other components you can kill the machine. It would likely help improve thermals, but if I recall from my G3 review thermals weren't the limit as it runs with a lower power limit to avoid getting hot. Yes it would also depend on the metal used by the heatpipes in that machine, and I'm not sure what that was.
@@JarrodsTech Hey !, so I just change the oem thermal paste for kryonaut. I still hit the same temp ( about 89 ) but at a lower fan speed ! I took some picture of it if it can be usefull for you !
@@trikte cool well at least that's some improvement
Can you check if you get the freesync enabled? Try enabling it in AMD settings and see if it can be applied i Nvidia settings :) Would be awesome if thete was a way to UV the AMD cpu. If you are able checking single vs dual chamnel ram would be interessting. It made up to a 35% improvement on the 3750H/1650-model according to notebookcheck in gam3s in fullhd.
I might check single vs dual channel if I have time, we'll see, there's a lot going on at the moment and I have to send this model back pretty soon 😢 I don't see the option to enable G-Sync compatible in the Nvidia control panel.
@@JarrodsTechApparently you must first activate freesync in the AMD-settings when using the iGPU, then it might be possible to activate it in Nvidia panel. forum.notebookreview.com/threads/asus-tuf-fx505du-mini-review.829041/ One guy managed to do it :) You must apparently use the AMD driver from amd.com, not the Asus preshipped. I understand if you don`t have the time :)
Seems mad that the Razer Blade 15 (Balanced mode) and Lenovo Legion Y740 are the only machines with acceptable fan noise this generation.
Asus really dropped the ball.
The Blade gets 51db in my own testing under full load, same as this machine (well prior to turbo, but it's not that big of a leap to max). I expect this could be better if the bottom wasn't almost all solid plastic 🤔
Razer Blade is still flawed product in terms of cooling - if they provided more exhaust area such as side exhausts they would perform much better. Same goes for display hinge covering rear exhaust. They refuse to change that simply because they want their products to look as close to Apple products as possible even if it impacts the performance.
@@JarrodsTech Hey Jarrod. Yes, but balanced mode makes an enormous difference. The NBC review shows just how much difference it makes (42-45 dB compared to 50+ on everything else). Unlike many other machines who only have "silent" modes designed for light use, the RB in balanced mode can still play games at the highest settings with high fps numbers.
I think this point is lost on a lot of tech reviewers. I know 2 people who bought the Blade based on the balanced mode fan noise (coupled with a relatively small loss of in-game fps). These are expensive machines, and a lot of adults aren't comfortable sitting in their study with some ridiculous RGB jet engine.
Even Linus also makes a point of telling users to stick with balanced mode.
I'm not sure why so many reviewers focus on fps benchmarks. It's fairly obvious what a machine fitted with a 2070mq + i7-9750h is going to net you fps wise (at least a ballpark figure). What's far more interesting is what the temps are like, what the surface temps feels like in use, and whether it sounds like a jet engine. And then on top of this, whether there's a mode which reduces performance by ~10% while decreasing noise by 30%.
Anyway, I really appreciate your work. Been watching since your initial P650RE Metabox review :)
ok so what im getting is that a cooling pad will actually lower the temps of the fx505? because im a little skeptical because they blocked off the vents on the bottom
Hi Jarrod, have you received the latest Zephyrus M model?
Not yet, they sent the Scar III first.
A bit hot imo considering that it's only using a 35W TDP CPU and it's not a thin and light
Asus did it again...lack of intake vents
Yeah not sure why the bottom is almost all solid plastic, either way does it really matter? It's not too hot and not thermal throttling 😛
@@JarrodsTech It does matter, many old Asus ROG laptops used to have bad cooling - part of the reason is no intake vents. Same applies to some new models like Zenbook Pro (no intake vents at all)
For FX505, the thermals are not that hot. But if compared to other models with good cooling then it's a different story
How about an Acer Nitro 5 of equal specs, do you think it can cool better? I watched your review of a Nitro 5 with an intel CPU and the temps were scary! 😱
Waiting to get the new 4000 series Nitro, never tested a 3750H one though.
for a mid 2020 purchase is it good? due to covid in my country there are not new models
I had the same laptop and I constantly was overheating I would have to have my afterburner on just to make sure it wasn’t going to melt because it was at a constant 91 c playing fortnite
Hi what program did you use to undervolt the ryzen fx505?
You can't undervolt AMD mobile CPUs, I didn't do undervolting in this video.
1:04 . After several weeks observation between ryzen 3750h and 1660ti thermal, yes they are affecting each other because of the heatsink. First i got 70 -80 Celcius degree on the processor full running gaming with only integrated gpu ryzen 7, when full running along with 1660ti with 75-85 Celcius degree and the processor got 80-100 Celcius degree. I assume that was overheating and made the processor throttling. I've done repaste with noctua nt h1 and it seems not much helped with same outcome. what about your opinions if i cut the heatsink between cpu and gpu? So the temperature of both will not effecting each other.
ps: the ambient temperature is 24 Celsius degree
By the way, thanks for the information of your video
I think cutting it is a bad idea, with shared they have more cooling capacity than otherwise which can be used if needed.
@@JarrodsTech thanks for the reply
Hi @Jarrod'sTech did you manage to switch RGB keyboard mode from Armoury Crate (ex : switch to one fix color) ?
Yeah, there was a static colour option. The whole keyboard is one zone, so limited effects and customization available.
@@JarrodsTech Crap so I've an issue on mine, can't switch to another color mod, what did you suggest ? Uninstall / reinstall armoury crate?
You could try install the aura sync software through windows store, or yeah reinstall that. I think some of them don't have RGB lighting, so could be worth double checking the listing where you bought it.
@@ndk18 I've got same problem, when I click on another mode keyboard is not reacting, so it's not only you
@@szymonlipiec1411 there is another way, click on the gamepad menu then lightning, you can switch effect from here
For overheating issues while gaming go into Power Management and adjust 'Minimum Processor State' to 99% 'Plugged In'. Next go to 'Maximum Processor State' and adjust both 'On Battery' and 'Plugged In' to 99%. This will not impact the performance of games and should ensure the temperature is within safe limits when these settings are saved.
I've heard people say that but have never given it a go. Temperatures should remain within safe limits by default, if they don't, it will physically turn itself off.
@@JarrodsTech from reading the Asus help page it actually states 105 degrees being the limit! The games I've tested so far it haven't gone past 75 degrees (normally low 70's) which is a major difference to 93 degrees! This is a great laptop even if not at the very top end, hopefully it will give people some piece of mind.
I have the same laptop , and 30 or so mins into a game, the laptop shows a “locking” screen and goes to sleep, this happens particularly on performance mode, should I assume that it’s because of the temperatures crossing 85c?
@@maazshaikh9998 use the Armoury Crate software on the laptop. Search it in the Windows menu and it'll pop up. You can then monitor the temperature when you start a game. My laptop went into turbo most of the time. After I did the fix I've noted it's resolved things amazingly.
Dan Flashbang yea I use armory crate and I’ve seen temps touch 85c, turbo mode is loud but it works great, this issue only happens on performance mode , nevertheless I’ll try your fix and see what happens
I own this exact model
I'm here because the shitty laptop get insanely hot
I'm talking 100°c while gaming and around 76 - 85 while idle
The nvidia doesn't go that high tho, I think its an issue with the Amd chip
Asus just mocking All Ryzen 3000rd without optimization.
Just RAW performance then try to sell into (non-knowledge user) non-tech-savvy users
guys all of the temperatures might fairly low but try to game 2 hours without stop even with cooler pad. i have acer predator Helios 300 with gtx 1060 6gb and it's going hot even in turbo mode for the fans.
It will make no change. I start my tests off by running Aida64+Heaven and leave them running for 30 mins before doing anything, by this point full heat saturation has taken place, the is no further change if I leave it running for another 10 hours. After this first 30 mins of heat soak, I then let each data point run for a further 30 mins and take the average, so I am confident these are worst case (at least with a 21c ambient temp).
I just picked up the GA502 with the same exact specs, im guessing it's the North American version of this machine. It does look a little less dialed back on the gaming look. Anyways I've found that my machine is also running pretty good thermally. I do plan on reapplying some thermal paste though. Hopefully it will knock down the overall temp.
Nice, let us know how it goes! I'm trying to get that one to review at the moment.
Are there any cooling pad recommendations that might work well with this 'book? It seems the TT RGB thing didnt help much.... but I was thinking perhaps one with a few smaller fans, instead of one big one, might work better _IF_ you could position the bottom vent directly over a fan. Any suggestions? Any other designs that might work?
Any, they all work basically the same (I'm working on a cooling pad comparison video now, will be up in a week or two, the summary is that it makes no major difference they all do pretty much the same).
@@JarrodsTech Thanks for the reply! I love the depth you are going to in your reviews. Measurable, objective data free of BS and fluff. Kind of the antithesis of the all too common 'unboxing' video calling itself a review.
For $20 or $30 I am tempted to try a cooling pad with 3 fans in a triangle layout. I think I can get 2 fans directly under the 2 bottom vents. And as long as it has some USB ports, it's not money wasted since it can be cheap 'docking station' if it doesn't cool much.
Do I NEED extra cooling on this notebook? Nah. Do I want it if I can get it? Sure, cooler is always better. But based on your data, I am basically expecting to buy a USB hub that MIGHT, as a bonus, cool the system a bit.
My craziest idea is to do something like this:
th-cam.com/video/INfSuqxtvIg/w-d-xo.html
Custom build and place some Noctuas perfectly in the grill to hopefully force some cool air into the bottom vents (I do have a high opinion of Noctua, so logic is, if a couple of Noctuas can't make a difference placed optimally, then nothing is going to make a difference on this notebook and I can rule out any temp gains with a cooling pad)
At the end of the day, we are probably only chasing a few degrees.... it seems ASUS actually engineered a good cooling design into these books, so I suspect big gains will only be seen on notebooks that aren't as well designed for heat dissipation. Kudos to Asus for this btw.
I am definitely looking forward to your comparison of cooling pads. If either of my ideas actually pan out and show any gains, I will be certain to let you know.
Looks like an interesting idea based on the thumbnail haha, can't view it right now though as I'm on a plane
Hi, should this laptop also be cleaned using compressed air or is there no need?
Honestly, seeing power throttling on CPU and overall a little underwhelming Ryzen performance, i'm more and more interested in MSI GE63 with i5-8300 and 1660 Ti. I costs good 100-150 bucks more but even then seems to be just a better value. I think it may come down to the 120+Hz screen quality for me.
I'm really puzzled why there is no reviews on these two machine yet. They both look like the definition of a 2019 budget gaming laptop.
Yeah don't get a MSI. I had a MSI Apache Pro ge62 with a GTX 960m. And it had the WORST build quality ever! That keyboard stoppeed working like after two years! And since they used melted plastic to hold it on, I had to go though a painful process of gluing it in because there was no way I could bolt it back on. Plus I broke the screen during the repair. Anyway, unless it has changed since I bought that laptop in 2015, I would not recommend MSI as a company.
@@everestsdriveway366 Thanks for sharing. Idk i heard they improved the quality of building. When i was buying my current laptop, in 2013 i think, MSI models looed bloody awful. Now they look much, much better. Still cheap plastic in budget models. I guess, you cant have it all. Good specs come with a price.
@@bananapeel3529 very true, but you can't have horrible build quality in something that is supposed to be portable. Not something that has to treated like a glass panel that is one milimeter thick. It has to feel like something that can survive in a bag.
To be clear, hitting the power limit is the expected scenario. Being able to hit this rather than thermal throttling is preferable. The 3750H is rated with a 35W TDP, so this is expected, we're getting full performance. Many Intel laptops only go to 45W, but some manufacturers do allow the CPU to run above spec with higher TDP, not sure if any AMD laptops allow that though, this is only the second one I've ever tested so I don't know if that's something they do.
Hey man, you mentioned that the 180w charger wasn't enough so I was wondering..can you use third party chargers for laptops like these?
Generally yes, unless they are using some proprietary design, but I think this is just the standard plug.
Hey, Jarrod. It's me again! I got a deal for Asus Zephyrus (GX501GI-EI011T) at $1815 and Acer Predator Helios 500 at $1560 and now I'm not sure which one I should buy. Any suggestion?
The Helios will likely run cooler but it is much thicker as a result, I think it depends more on if you want a thinner machine for more money, or a more powerful but larger machine for less money.
@@JarrodsTech I plan to carry it to work and school. I just don't know if 1808max q is better than 1070 for more money?
I've tested very few 1080 max-q laptops, it is likely a little better, sorry didn't realise that model had that.
@@JarrodsTech No worry :D Thanks for the advice!
PS. Just search for 1070 vs 1080 max q and your vid show up the top result, watching it now :D
Haha, it's an older one, but yeah should help.
Can i ask between fx505d and tuf A15,which one is better in terms of temperature when gaming?
Hi, for Asus Tuf and Acer Nitro 5... Which laptop chassis provides a better thermal management according to your opinion?
Not sure, haven't had both with same CPU/GPU inside to fairly compare.
I have an fx505dy and it will overheat and shut down when I'm playing games while the laptop is plugged into the charger. I don't know what to do to fix it.