Can you explain why you’d decrease front rebound to account for under steer? My understanding is that by decreasing rebound, you speed up the rate of rebound. Compression always makes sense to me, but rebound I mix up. Thanks
Obviously it matters in the cornering sequence where the understeer is occurring. Most common is corner entry. Yea, and it's semantics when it comes to shock tuning (decrease/increase vs more firm/soft). Some shocks have pictures of turtles and rabbits on them to help understand. Turtle meaning to slow down, rabbit to speed up. For corner entry understeer (most common) what we mean here is to resist the shock from rebounding. Think about it, in cornering, when you've loaded the front end, you want to keep that vertical load on the front tires, helping with grip as you apply steering input. So you want to RESIST the shock from rebounding to soon. Make sense? Conversely, if your car has a tendency to oversteer on entry corner entry (outside of modifying the driver (excessive trailbraking)) try getting weight to shift to the rear sooner. Yea, you need to stop and think about this stuff. Hope that helps. Appreciate the response.
@@CallToGrid thanks for the response, that makes sense. Use softer settings on front to combat understeer because it compresses more quickly (bump) and stays down longer (rebound)
@@danielhass4812 depends if you have single adjustable vs double adjustable shocks. Do you want to upgrade your shocks? We can help. What kind of car do you have?
@@CallToGrid thanks! 2020 Supra. SPL bits and MSS HAS w/ factory dampeners. Starting to do my research on Coilovers, and trying to learn as much as I can before purchasing. Never had Coilovers. I’m thinking I may only need 1 ways since I am far from advanced, and still drive it on the street a couple thousand miles a year. Ohlins road and track is what I’m thinking. Read good things about MCS and JRZ, but those are a big step up
We offer AST shocks on our site. You have the Supra A90 MK5? calltogrid.com/ast-suspension/ We have a handful of products yet to backfill. The Supra is one of them. I can get you a price though if interested. But honestly, what is your driving experience? How many events have you attended? Are you doing HPDE/Track Days, (i.e. no timing)? Who do you run with? I'm all for making a sale, but if you are still developing your skills behind the wheel I'd highly recommend you not make many mods to your car until you're more skilled. (i.e. more consistent, corner by corner, lap by lap). If you mod your car now you won't know if it's you or the mod to the car that made something better or worse. Many instructors recommend limiting mods when you are a newer driver to tires and pads. Don't go R-Comp tire yet. Too sticky and no audible feedback. Stick with treadwear of 225 or higher. They have grip and also provide an audible feedback as they approach the traction limit. Can get a good sticky all-purpose tire with a treadwear of 225 or higher. I can help with pads. That Supra is a very capable car. I got my start in a C5 Corvette Z06. Super capable car, but it was over my head. I knew this sport was something I wanted to stick with. I sold it and got a used 1995 MX5 a guy was selling at the track. Cheaper car, and great car to learn on. You can stick with the Supra, just try and limit mods. My thoughts. Here to help!
Sincerely appreciate that feedback. Yup, I've always had that issue. My brain gets going and my mouth tries to keep up. Haha. Appreciate you taking the time to provide that feedback.
@@CallToGrid I appreciate how you take constructive criticism and how you responded to me. TY, It says a lot about your character. “Fast talking” is becoming increasingly common these days, especially so with the younger generation. So maybe you’re ahead of your time! 😉 Also, I suppose my 73 yr. old brain (and ears) struggle to catch up, which certainly isn’t your fault.
No, I sincerely appreciate your feedback. What I do is out of love, so it's not a job. Its out of love so easier to accept constructive criticism. Peace to you my friend. If you liked this, be sure to Follow us on Facebook.
Brilliant video and super clear to see how to make changes. This is the clearest and simplest video for explaining track adjustments I've seen yet!
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Can you explain why you’d decrease front rebound to account for under steer? My understanding is that by decreasing rebound, you speed up the rate of rebound. Compression always makes sense to me, but rebound I mix up. Thanks
Obviously it matters in the cornering sequence where the understeer is occurring. Most common is corner entry. Yea, and it's semantics when it comes to shock tuning (decrease/increase vs more firm/soft). Some shocks have pictures of turtles and rabbits on them to help understand. Turtle meaning to slow down, rabbit to speed up.
For corner entry understeer (most common) what we mean here is to resist the shock from rebounding. Think about it, in cornering, when you've loaded the front end, you want to keep that vertical load on the front tires, helping with grip as you apply steering input. So you want to RESIST the shock from rebounding to soon. Make sense? Conversely, if your car has a tendency to oversteer on entry corner entry (outside of modifying the driver (excessive trailbraking)) try getting weight to shift to the rear sooner. Yea, you need to stop and think about this stuff. Hope that helps. Appreciate the response.
@@CallToGrid thanks for the response, that makes sense. Use softer settings on front to combat understeer because it compresses more quickly (bump) and stays down longer (rebound)
@@danielhass4812 depends if you have single adjustable vs double adjustable shocks. Do you want to upgrade your shocks? We can help. What kind of car do you have?
@@CallToGrid thanks! 2020 Supra. SPL bits and MSS HAS w/ factory dampeners. Starting to do my research on Coilovers, and trying to learn as much as I can before purchasing. Never had Coilovers. I’m thinking I may only need 1 ways since I am far from advanced, and still drive it on the street a couple thousand miles a year. Ohlins road and track is what I’m thinking. Read good things about MCS and JRZ, but those are a big step up
We offer AST shocks on our site. You have the Supra A90 MK5?
calltogrid.com/ast-suspension/
We have a handful of products yet to backfill. The Supra is one of them. I can get you a price though if interested.
But honestly, what is your driving experience? How many events have you attended? Are you doing HPDE/Track Days, (i.e. no timing)? Who do you run with?
I'm all for making a sale, but if you are still developing your skills behind the wheel I'd highly recommend you not make many mods to your car until you're more skilled. (i.e. more consistent, corner by corner, lap by lap). If you mod your car now you won't know if it's you or the mod to the car that made something better or worse.
Many instructors recommend limiting mods when you are a newer driver to tires and pads. Don't go R-Comp tire yet. Too sticky and no audible feedback. Stick with treadwear of 225 or higher. They have grip and also provide an audible feedback as they approach the traction limit. Can get a good sticky all-purpose tire with a treadwear of 225 or higher. I can help with pads.
That Supra is a very capable car. I got my start in a C5 Corvette Z06. Super capable car, but it was over my head. I knew this sport was something I wanted to stick with. I sold it and got a used 1995 MX5 a guy was selling at the track. Cheaper car, and great car to learn on. You can stick with the Supra, just try and limit mods. My thoughts.
Here to help!
Good video but information is moving way to fast for me to understand
You are not the first person who has said I talk too fast. Thank you for the feedback and taking the time to comment. Its deeply appreciated!
Slow down (way down) ... please. I'm referring to the opening and closing gentleman.
slow down, as in talking too fast?
Yup[@@CallToGrid
Sincerely appreciate that feedback. Yup, I've always had that issue. My brain gets going and my mouth tries to keep up. Haha. Appreciate you taking the time to provide that feedback.
@@CallToGrid I appreciate how you take constructive criticism and how you responded to me. TY, It says a lot about your character. “Fast talking” is becoming increasingly common these days, especially so with the younger generation. So maybe you’re ahead of your time! 😉 Also, I suppose my 73 yr. old brain (and ears) struggle to catch up, which certainly isn’t your fault.
No, I sincerely appreciate your feedback. What I do is out of love, so it's not a job. Its out of love so easier to accept constructive criticism. Peace to you my friend. If you liked this, be sure to Follow us on Facebook.