@@tazzredbandana6911 you may have some issues then. art schools dont typically ever want you to include anime art or fanart within your portfolio. think about that, and the fact art school makes you take more classes than only art related ones, and you mostly have to draw realism.
I think the worst advice I’ve ever heard is “If you’ve improved at all as an artist, you should hate your old art. If you don’t hate it, you’re either not improving your skill or your eye.” And while that may be true, it really hurts when I’ve spent my life coming up with characters and creatures. My first sketches of them are like their baby pictures! I love them ^_^
i think most people use the word hate in place of embarrass lol. i love my old drawings bc they’re so bad its cute, but they embarrass me to no end, so i technically do “hate” them, even if i would never get rid of any of them.
Yes! You shouldn't always have to worship perfection. Its important to have an eye for all levels of art in order to give out good advice to yourself and to others.
yeah, you should be able to criticize your own art and see where you've learned/still need to fix your work but i love my old art, flaws and all. i'm not going to act like they don't mean a lot to me, and quite a few of them were breakthrough pieces for me even if they don't hold up to my current skill level
The person who made that advice is an utter fool. Like, bruh, I do have my old arts that I still like until now. I can still spot the flaws including anatomy mistakes and lack of rendering techniques on my old drawings, but that doesn't mean I don't like/hate my old drawings. Also without your old arts, your new arts won't exist.
I had a professor that basically didn’t like anything stylized (even though the project was suppose to be stylized) because she thought that realism was the only “correct” form of art
well idk if they still are an artist and want to be or just do it sometimes just for fun, but i bet they still draw memes if someone tells them to draw
Here’s another one: “NEVER EVER SHADE WITH BLACK IT CANT LOOK GOOD!!” Yes, soft shading with black is a bad idea in a lot of scenarios and this is definitely a rule a lot of the time. But buddy, an important part of “learn the rules before you break them” is the “break them” bit. Because you can definitely break them. Look at American superhero comic books. Or some pop art. Or black and white pieces. etc. This applies to a lot of stuff actually, I don’t think there’s many places in art where “never do this!” is completely solid advice.
The only thing in art you shouldn’t do is expect yourself to get better after drawing 6 things. It takes more like hundreds to get kinda good. I suck, but I’m proud and improving.
the never shade with black thing is just for paintings. If you don't know how to properly use black it can make your paintings look really muddy. But if you know how to use it it can be a powerful tool for dramatic paintings.
Telling an artist to not draw cartoons or anime is like telling a writer they’re not allowed to write fiction EDIT: I’m talking about the type of teachers or people that say you can’t draw anime because THEY don’t like that style and they think it has no place in the art world and can’t get you anywhere. Not if you’re in a realism class and they rightfully say that anime in a realism class isn’t appropriate.
Me: Focused in realism ALOT Art Class- No Cartoons! Me: Starts to draw DuckTales fanart and it looks not that good atm because of my lack of experience drawing cartoons.
@skeptic ? You can still know and practice drawing foundations without directly drawing realistically, even from time to time. Not wanting to/not being able to draw realistically doesn't make you a bad artist
Realism isn’t “the rules” at all. It’s just the foundation: it keeps everything stable but you do not need the thickest foundation in the world in order to use bricks. I do not need to know what every muscle and bone is called to draw some thick anime girls, I just need to know the basic shapes 💀
If someone say this to you,say this: *"How house and city were made?art work idea of Artist right?"* (i know no one ask this but lol) edit: Pssppspsps would you like to see Zyto Tempol replies down there lol edit 2: As an artist who is rarely using reference,without reference is not alright at all,if reference doesnt exist,there must be less artist here if they dont dare to try without using reference,first of all,follow the drawing the steps in your mind is not that easy and the hand will struggling using lineart without a reference,its also not easy to have the beginner artist advice to do this,now think how the cartoons,manga,comic and anime are made right?All the arts you seen has been use reference,once again if reference doesn't exist,then the fucking masterpiece won't have exist too,dont be small brain,monalisa painting has a reference and being most popular art in the world because reference exist now you say to someone get off from art when they use reference?Your the one get off from fucking art community and go shame yourself when you look back at this,we dont care if you have anxiety about this because holy shit you are dumb as f***k (-Respond to Zyto Tempol) edit 3: I think im too harsh im deeply sorry about that Zyto
That's nonsense. You can't possibly know every item that ever existed in the world well enough to draw it and paint it convincingly. Besides, that means that artists like Leonardo Da Vinci and Vincent Van Gogh weren't real artists because they used references.
Same. Mine was on anatomy and it goes: “Draw the head first. Then, the arms. Now add the legs, and youre done!” _What happened to the torso, hair, facial features, and literally anything with context?_
I got a “how to draw: realistic/basic objects,” and “people” was a topic. It literally just drew lines over the face and said to “sketch the lighting over your base”- jsjsjsjs where’s the base and how do I draw it-
@@sangonomiyakokomi5764 lmao true in a single public school class someone knows how to draw cartoons someone in Realism someone in the middle and the rest just... ehh stickman :D dkdkdkxkfk
The "Stop drawing ____" part made me remember of a middle school teacher I had, at that time my art style was very manga inspired, and since I wasn't progressing at all, people used to tell me that I always drew the same thing, while complimenting my drawings. I talked about it with this teacher, and he told me that my drawings looked indeed very similar, like I was drawing what people wanted me to draw. He gave me a sketching book and told me that it would mine, only to my eyes, to express myself not to show nor to fulfill others expectations, to help me with my struggles at that times. And instead of telling me to stop drawing the typical anime girl I was drawing, he told to continue to my heart's content, that when I'll get sick of it I'll naturally get out of my comfort zone to express myself with another style that would be more "myself". It was quite a long ago now, but both his advice and the sketching book he gave me, helped me improve my art, and be happy about my creations. He left after that year and I never saw him again, although I would have love to thanks him. It may not work for everyones, but I'm sharing this anecdote in case it helps someone who's reading this~ (Sorry for english mistakes btw, I'm a Baguette ♥)
The worst thing about most art teachers/critics is that they don't really care about how you feel on specific art styles and tools, they just want to fit their standards and not be amazing in there own way. I've been drawing in a anime/manga/chibii style most of the time and people think that's all I know, but they haven't seen my realistic or concept art styles. The thing is, most of the people who ask for commissions and such don't care if you spent twenty minutes or twenty hours, they just want it to fit there standards like they want cool colours or an extremely detailed city of some sorts. Sometimes If they dont like how you did the art they will say "ugh, you suck at art how'd you even get a job?"and theres even people who say "stop drawing, you have no potential." Now I've gone through all that and I stopped drawing for years because of it, but that doesn't change the fact that art is my job and its how I get my main source of income, and that my art doesnt need to change just to fit their standards. I know that I'm not as good as other people, I also know you shouldnt compare artists to other artists. They lose all their confidence and self esteem, which makes most artists depressed and lose interest in the thing that they love to do. So try to compliment artists and tell them where to improve with constructive criticism. Thank you, for listening to my tedtalk.
yea I mean like some people will just not be into your art style and that's totally fine, different people like different things. But most artists that work on commission have examples of their work available to look at before you commission something so if people complain about your art style after commissioning you then that's on them for not checking out your portfolio. And when it comes to teaching and grading art, you need to be unbiased with your grades regardless of your preferred style
Thank you, one thing I love to use is mechanic pencils. Okay I get they aren’t the best for nice pencil shading but whatever. I draw in a cartoonish style with very defined lines, and I already struggle with some of my motor skills, especially as a child, and my handwriting is so atrocious that half the time I can’t even call it legible even to myself. But I’ve found that I really thrive using mechanical pencils. The stupid 2B pencils drive me insane. I want to scream every time an art teacher insisted on making me use a proper pencil. I can but honestly I find it much more enjoyable and easier to just stick to my overpriced mechanical pencil that always has the useless stupid flimsy clip that always breaks no matter how gentle you are with it.
Since I'm both a creative writer and an artist, I've noticed that a lot of bad advice can kinda be transcribed from one to the other and fall apart. "Don't draw cartoons" sounds really silly if you translate it as "Don't write sci-fi" or "Don't write historical". "Copy photos to learn to draw" is actually hilarious when translated as "Copy books to learn to write." As for writing translated into art, some bad advice that a lot of novice writers fall into is "Make sure every word has meaning", which is like telling someone getting into art to "make sure every line is perfect". It's just unfeasible.
@@katiecramton6336exactly! There’s a time and place for love triangles, the word said, dream sequences and all that. A time and place for every writing idea. ‘Never’ is a word that shouldn’t be used for giving advice.
@@ardequerade3155nope. Having a specific word mean something is a thing which can be amazing. Like a character always describing themselves as weird in a negative way before they discover that being weird isn’t bad, then having weird mean something entirely different, something positive but you don’t need to spend hours looking for a way to make ‘the’ be meaningful. 😂
I agree! it can be hard to explain how to draw sometimes. I genuinely don't know how I got where I am in art, it just came with practice, so unless someone asks something specific that I know the answer to then I'm going to say to just keep practicing.
My only advice is to look through multiple sources. To paraphrase Uncle Iroh from avatar, “if you get information from just one place, it grows stale.” The other quote I think of is “Now is the time to ask the big questions. Who are you and what do you want in life?” Or in my words, “know the effect you want.” Basically I learned via the internet more specifically Instagram. I used to redraw (but not post) a lot of fan art and eventually I guess I learned how to draw based on what I was seeing though I got a lot of anatomically incorrect drawings from it. Then I looked up IN DEPTH tutorials on Instagram, not the “don’t do this” ones but ones that actually have 3+ images. Then I just kept drawing every day and looking at tutorials and I don’t think I’m good enough yet but I’m going to get to where I want to be one day. (Also still apologizing for a comment I made when I was younger and didn’t understand why lavender towne always drew bangs. Now I only draw bangs too.)
I remember my art instructor (I was attending optional art classes) telling my parents that I should stop watching cartoons because my art is cartoony and I should draw realism. The problem was, I was trying SO HARD to do realism and it never was realistic enough. I was looking at other people's art and thinking "They are so great and realistic... And mine look like a kid's drawing...". Even my grandpa critisized me for my cartoon style and didn't like anything that wasn't realistic. I only recently learned that drawing cartoons is not a bad thing. So. Many. Years. Wasted. Now I'm good at neither cartoons nor realism and I have to start all over again... And to make matters worse, this instructor is STILL teaching this class. I feel so bad for those kids...
that remebers me on my music teacher, who wasn't even my art teacher. he just saw a picture I drew alone from memory(yeahr I know I shouldn't draw from memory because it makes the proportions weird or whatever but at this time I thought I had to draw everything without references because I thought the pictures wouldn't be my own if i did) and then he told me my manga-ish style wouldn't be Art and I should learn to draw realistic because thats what a "real" artist would do and then he said my little pictures would be nothing more than a paintbook drawing for kids. He was a great music teacher but maybe he shouldn't give out art advices. Was a really bad time for me because I saw him as a role model because I really liked his music lessons... but luckyly I didn't stop drawing and sketching and I think I'm at least okay at art now.
@@Mar-hq9bm I kind of stay in one community, aka, Pokémon. Not a fan of the show though, too uh.. childish? Generations, Twilight Wings, the Manga for the games and the games are fine with me though. Come to think of it I don't have many arts i've recently finished, only ones i've started. I mean, I listen to Porter Robinson in addition to Pokémon soundtracks but haven't attempted to draw anything for it. Sorry for the long text, I tend to type a lot.
Whenever my little brother says, “ How did you do that?!” , we sit down together and I show him step by step how to do it. He’s actually pretty good when he puts his mind to it. ✏️ 😊 💖
Friendly reminder that no artists are required to teach anybody how to draw that should be reserved for people who are specifically in school or have certificates to teach you how to draw or maybe they just actually want teach you how to draw. But you should never expect tik tok artists who literally only have a minute to show their process to teach you how to draw they're gonna be like yeah sketch what you want to draw and then if you want line it and then if you want color it but art is subjective and you have to learn how to do it on your own or go to actual sources of education. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
Yo here’s an art tip from me: Just draw, like, actually just sit down and draw. You wanna draw cartoons? Draw some cartoons! You wanna do realism? Go find some pictures to draw from! It doesn’t matter if you’re good, all that matters is that it was fun! Edit: the ‘learn the rules before you break them’ rule works both ways and now I can’t do realistic stuff help
Yeah... I agree, But when I come to this I need to wait 5 minutes with a white paper under my nose also I should fix the eyes of my pfp, they have something really wrong. Maybe I should sit and fix it
Cheezit Police tbh the only advice I can give is look at others sytlized art (Instagram and deviantart are great places to look) and try to pick up things you’d like to see in your own new style (also try not to focus on making something super unique and fresh immediately, it takes a while to make something completely your own). Also try to exaggerate features, mix things up and try new things you haven’t tried before and don’t be afraid to make “non aesthetic art” because atm you want to focus on breaking free from the real worlds rules and find out what you like and what works for you. I hope this helps and doesn’t make you even more confused hahah
@@nekorice35 This is always what your heart tells you, like I really like to do lines as shadows so I do it :^ But the poem at first got me very confused
There’s also this one thing that caused me to improve: I Took a long break from drawing and when I returned I improved a lot, this may not work with other people but just wanted to share this ^^
Yeah, for some reason I didn’t draw for like 3 months and then a week ago made myself draw again, and damn the proportions were great it didn’t make any sense :|
Saaaame. I wasn’t liking anything I was making, so I stepped away for a while. Then, after getting more into stories and writing, I tried designing a character from something I was planning. It didn’t turn out good in comparison to my more recent art, and definitely not in comparison to actual artists, but it was a major improvement.
This is great advice! I was in desperate need of a break from drawing, and doing so let ideas and motivation flow to me. To anyone reading this, even if it’s a day or so, take a break :)
the only times I tell people to "just practice" is when they give me nothing to go off of, like so many people at school ask me "how did you get so good?" or "I wish I could draw like that" or "I can only draw stick figures :(" and I ask them "Well what do you want to draw" or "What do you need to improve?" and they just stare at me because they expect me to give them a full drawing workshop right then and there so I just say "Just practice" because they don't tell me what they need
I just ask them to show me their art, because sometimes it's easy to see what they're struggling with. If that fails, back up and teach them what you take most pride in. Like, if you take pride in your hands and poses, help them improve at that
when someone asks how I got so good I always say 'well I put in a lot of time and practice'. This is because I don't know how to explain all the steps I took. I'm still not far in my art journey!
The only reason I ever said “practice” is cause it was always the snobby kids who’d try to steal my sketchbook or be right over my shoulder while drawing, it got them to leave
Misleading advice is like practicing a song for hours and hours with the wrong chords. And dawing without knowing the fundamentals is like solving a math problem without knowing the formula.
So what your saying is if i guess ill probably get a B 👀 Its a joke btw, I hardly ever knew what was happening in math and i still got a b in there lol
I guess so, but I don't think art requires as much of an understanding as maths does, in the way that you can freestyle it and it can turn out fine, since you're going for what looks right. You can't really do that with maths, and need to drill certain ways of doing things to get a particular result.
To the teachers who insist on pressuring their students into doing good: STOP. You're not helping them, you're potentially scaring them out of what they wanted to improve. There's too many stories about something someone loved doing and wanted to learn more to improve, and a bad, mean teacher/tutor made them ending up hating what they once loved doing. Hell, why are you a teacher in the first place if you treat people like that? To me, good teachers not only care about their students' success, but they also care about their _feelings_ too. There's a major reason why most people prefer the nice, but firm teacher who clearly cares over the harsh, nasty teacher who insists their way or the highway that doesn't give a shit about their students otherwise. Tangent over.
All of my friends took art gcse. 2 of them have drawn in the last month. The pressure traumatised people and they hate drawing now. I'm so glad I got into art late so I didn't take art gcse.
And that's why my elementary school art teacher was awesome. She still made us do the "professional" stuff, but she didn't scream at the entire 3rd grade class because I drew a chibi
My year 2 teacher and an art teacher I never even had are some of the best people for me for these reasons. My year 2 supported me and taught me how to draw a face, how to colour in and use methods such as glueing fabrics and painting. The other teacher saw what I was doing and supported me, gave me encouragement and advice. This is also the reason I didn't choose art. I was scared to draw how I wanted in class and the one time I did, the teacher never spoke to me again. I thought I was going to fail because I drew Madoka in class for a book cover
I’ll always say “practice with a purpose” instead of “just practice”. Understanding what you need to improve is the first step of improvement, in every aspect of life and especially art :)
about the 'Learn the rules before you brake them': Personally, I do stand by this saying. I am not a person that draws realistic stuff or anything. My style is more anime and sometimes chibi. I would never tell someone to first be amazing at realisism before trying out a cartoonish artstyle, but you still have to know at least the basics. I've seen beginner artist that go like ''oH iTs jUsT mY sTylE'' so often, but you can usually tell when the person just can't really draw yet. Does Steven Universe look realistic? No, but you can see that it's stylized. I just hate that so many people use the ''this is my art style'' as an excuse to not improve.
Honestly this is 100% true. No matter what art style you have, you need to learn some form of “the basics”. Abstract? Color theory. Backgrounds? Lighting and perspective. People? Proportions and anatomy. Not learning them will lead to things looking out of place. One of the biggest fixes to same face syndrome is learning proportions/anatomy. If you want to broaden your horizons or create drawings with interesting moods you should learn how lights reflect off of certain things and angles. Character designers need to learn the colors that go together and the ones that don’t. A writer should have a decent grasp on pacing, and a game developer should have a decent grasp on coding. Artists are no different.
You _might_ want to replace that last "actually" with "not"? I'm not entirely sure if I'm reading your comment wrong, or if you made a small mistake, but I think it might be the latter.
Like, you don't need to be great at realism, or posing, or lighting, you just need to know some of the basic stuff. Like knowing how to add shading based on where your light source is, and that when something is closed to the front it's bigger than the stuff behind it. I'd say just learn some basic info, nothing crazy, and you don't need to be perfect at it, you don't even need to be that good. Then work on stylization and figuring out what you do and don't like. Edit: I'm not claiming that you need to do any realism at all. I'm just saying that there's helpful info that you should know about. I disagree with doing just realism until you've mastered it. If you don't want to do realism, don't! Just look up some tutorials and guides talking about simple things like posing, shading, and color choice
a better piece of advice other than “practice” is to practice but with references and observing artists that you admire and you think is close to what you want to do. no “art style” is completely original its made out of every artists style youve been exposed to mixed together to make a new one! nothing is ever completely original
HOT TAKE OF THE YEAR. Reminds me when I was in ceramics and we were making jugs with faces. Naturally, I wanted to do mine to look like Jughead from Archie (so it would be Jughead the Jug Head). But when I showed my art teacher my design, she docked points for creativity and told me that Fanart wasn't original 🙃
My art teacher always tells me that I shouldn’t do fan art because it isn’t real art, and that I will never improve if I’m just doing fan art. Fan art is the reason that I am good at art now, it helped me with proportions, shading, coloring, it is real art
I've got that too many times for all the vocaloid art I do for fun and as a stress relief I've ended up hurting my back for sitting and drawing for 5-7 hours straight because I just like to
Rotmg Troller Fan Just because someone plays a game it doesn’t mean that they’re bad at drawing stop making rude assumptions about people for no reason
same, im like 13, and in art class we're focusing on realism, like still life and stuff. actually, i draw a more cartoony style usually, but when i school ive found using my cartoony methods help me with realism
same like i knew how to draw since well since i had a pencil and paper and scribbled that's drawing since when here there rules to drawing??? like bro its nonyabisness
So do I have to follow the rules or….? I’m so confused, I do a sort of cartoony style of art but still is my style. I never knew there were rules until now.
The thing is though, I did the exact opposite. I was drawing anime since I was really young and then when I finally started learning about drawing portraits the knowledge I already had helped me get good at realism too.
The “stop drawing _________” is what made me quit and practically lose all of my talent because I just wasn’t having fun with it anymore from what they said. They made me genuinely believe everything I drew was bad and I couldn’t do it because ____ and ____ reasons. Now I literally don’t draw like I used to and I miss the way I drew
same though i haven't completely given up drawing im starting to hate the way i draw because "reasons" that ppl say and i sometimes wanna quit but i dont want to lose it either
Reading that made me really sad noooo. I don’t understand how people can be so fluffing judgy ):< No art is bad just because someone else draws more realistic or understands more rules. Drawings are pictures of your emotions, thoughts, wishes and dreams, they are your insides. And bringing these things to paper or whatever takes alot of guts. Feelings are not clear things like numbers. You have to learn to express them the way they are. Nobody should have the audacity to tell YOU how your brain magic works. Not everyone dreams in realistic and straight lines. Not everyone has logic dreams you can judge by metrics. If your art is cartoony or bubbly, then it is because you are. If these people want to make rules about how to do something they should go elsewhere because in art there are only guidelines and preferences. Fluff them. ):< I feel really sorry that you guys stopped drawing because of that buttholes. I bet you all did great works with lots of love in them. I know how pressured one can feel with all these people making weird rules and judging and I‘m also constantly stressing myself about it. But honestly, drawing makes the most fun when you don‘t care about this things. Just like when we all started. I hope one day you can find your love for it again and smash your insides into that drawing :)
Same..I was told to stop drawing anime and I wouldn't amount to anything and I am a failure. None of my art was good apparently...I still draw but it's no longer fun. I want to draw webtoons though and I found this girl and she's helpful
The "Don't draw [blank] advice is particularly interesting to me. When I was in art liceum my painting teacher asked us all to bring in images we liked in particular from stuff we'd like to achieve ourselves. I brought a bunch of anime-inspired (Kidchan at the time was a favourite) art and each of us would get to go to the computer room with our flash key to show him. The other ones got on with their assignment in the main class. He asked me a bunch of questions such as "Do you like the line quality in particular? Would you like to push the colours this much or do you like that they're soft?" and then the next lesson he brought each of us a list of suggestions for classic stuff we could study and possibly do assignments from. I really liked mine: they were an interesting mix of impressionist paintings, Asian (maybe Chinese? It's been a while) ink works and some contemporary, more graphic artworks. I really think it was really useful and it's a good compromise between just letting me reference just what I already liked and just confining me to classic stuff.
My mom is an incredible artist and she has a great grasp on anatomy, perspective, and colour theory. I love to draw but my skills in those said categories don't match my mothers by a long shot, I specialize more in character design and cartoon drawings. Even though my mom can draw more realistically, her stylized drawings are well... less than pleasing to the eye to say the least. And it's not just a style difference, she struggles in her art where I succeed in it, and vice versa. Thank you LavenderTowne for bringing up that realism and stylization are different skills and you cant just learn anatomy and be good at stylization. I have always felt put down by others because they see hyperrealistic drawings as a higher more skillful art form, when that really isn't the truth. It's all about what you decide to study and put your time into
Oh, same for me! My mom does watercolor paintings of interesting looking buildings around and people without being super precise, whole I do primarily stylized digital art. I struggle with realism and she has trouble with just creating a drawing from her head, so it’s really interesting how different our art is
i dont think “learn the rules before you break them” refers to learning how to draw in a completely realistic style before you draw cartoons/anime/etc. I think it means learn the super essentials and basics before you do that. Cartoons and anime art still need to be at least somewhat grounded in reality to look good.
Kawaiikittychu7 I thought that too. I watch a youtuber called Solar Sands who says this phrase a lot and I say, he’s saying that the anatomy and basic skills must be used and studied first before immediately drawing your own style since it improves the balance and realism in your art and make it pleasing to the eye.
Yeah, on stylisation, I totally agree. I have a friend who can do incredible life drawing, like photo-realistic. I used to be super jealous of her because my art was always so cartoony by comparison. But one day she told me she was actually jealous of my art because it had such a unique style and confessed she really struggled at doing that kind of stylised art.
You know, side note: after hearing the “just practice” I wanna bring up how upsetting it was that I was talking with my grandma and she was telling me she wished she had some sort of talent and I mentioned how she is a really good cook but she brushed it off bringing up my art. She started saying how I had already found my art because I could draw nicely and I told her anyone could. It’s a skill just like every other. Yes it’s hard but if you start right and keep trying then you could end up drawing just as good or better. And I explained that I had spent hours practicing, so much work had been put into just one piece of art. And all she had to say was “that’s a nice way to make me feel better, but you were b o r n with that talent” and I swear- that just- I got so upset.
Yeah, I feel that's were the "just practice" answer originally came from: the old misconception that talented artists were naturally born gifted like that, instead of their artwork being the result of years of practice. I think a lot of gen x / millenials artists were pissed off lol.
OMG same! My Grandma literally believes artists are born not created, and the same with any other skills. I tried explaining that just because parents are good at something, that does not mean the whole family is unless they take time to dedicate to learning and bettering that skill. It is like driving, haha, you do not just wake up one day knowing how to drive.
Absolutely! When I tell people "just practice" it's usually directed at people who try to convince me my decade of hard work is something not achievable and that I was just *born* able to draw like.. no?? Anybody could learn it with practice. That's why I say it, because I'm tired of being told I have a "gift" not that I put in years of hard work and tears into my work!
This comment. I've met so many artists who have told new or beginning artists that if they don't have the talent to figure it out themselves then they just aren't good at it and should do something else. (I also kind of took offense to the whole idea that the more experienced artist needed to figure out what the problem was an explain it when that's not fair to someone you're not paying and who didn't offer.)
Quick Advice: - Listen to advice or critic given to you by other people! Even if they aren't artists! - Learn to differentiate, "advice" and, "critic" from, "hate" and, "trolls". Here's the deal, some artists tend to think that as long as they can see what's wrong with their work, they don't need to listen to other people. And that's just wrong. Some people are bias towards their art that they don't see where they can improve - hence why we should ask for critic from other artists. Though asking non-artists seem wrong, it can actually do good. They won't be able to give you constructive criticism per se but they'll be able to see your work from a non bias and non technical point of view. Majority of the people who will see your art probably aren't artists anyways so people who don't necessarily draw might be able to help you see where you can better yourself. Of course, asking critics from artists would be a lot better drawing wise because they'll be able to voice and even explain something in your art that you can work on in detail. You should also learn the difference between comments like, "This is bad" vs "The arm looks wrong/wobbly". The first statement was clearly meant with malice and bad intention whilst the second one was more helpful and critical rather than demeaning. Sure, the second statement might not have been completely detailed but unless it's an artistic choice - you should probably ask for more clarification from the person to better yourself. As for the first comment, you should ignore it because its not helpful and it will only lower your self esteem if you linger on it for too long. These are pretty well known advices around the art community but I just wanted to retell. I wouldn't call myself a great artist since I'm only a teenager but I hope people still listen. Have a nice day!
I disagree with "listen to non-artists advice" from personal experience non-artist advice is usually flat and and will make u feel as if something is wrong but its just because ur drawing is not 100% realistic.
@@lamplol7120 True but it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to listen - especially if they are people like your family or your friends. They will only be trying to lift you up and it wouldn't hurt to see if their opinions or advice are valid to where you want to go. You can ask them about wether your art style looks cartoony - assuming that your going into that direction. And their insight would still be helpful either way. As I said, they probably wouldn't be able to give out constructive criticism but they would still be able to give you another view on your art. Wether you take it to heart or not if of course up to you. ^^ (Artists are still better advice tellers for drawings though. I won't disagree that you should probably take their critics more into mind than other people who haven't had experience.)
@@melissaandzoeram883 my sis is an artist and she showed a simple drawing - not in cartoony style - of harry potter to a friend how told her that they thought it looked like the devil -not in a mean way- so my sis added a lot of details and the drawing got worst, so I think that non-artist advice is useless most of the time and harmful sometimes so I think ignoring them is better.
@@lamplol7120 I will admit, that's bad advice from your sister's friend so I'll agree - don't listen if your friends say that your drawings looked like it came from the devil XD (I hope your sister is doing great with her art!)
Thank you *so much* for talking about "Just practice!" advice. I had a phase in middle/high school where I loved to draw, but even I knew everything I did Was Not Very Good, so I turned to my friends who were good at art and they *always* told me "oh just practice, you'll get there!" but I never did because I didn't *know* where to go next, how to get my lineart smoothed out or how to understand shading or anatomy; I needed someone to help me through it all and no one would even give me a moment of guidance. I gave up on my art after that, and haven't bothered with it for a very long time now. Watching your videos recently has made me want to start again, though... Maybe I will one day!
"Just practice is not a good art tip." You see, if this was coming from a less popular youtuber, they would've been already shunned for speaking their mind.
Mostly if someone says "How do you draw??" I think thats pretty vague, so the closest I can tell them is to practice. Because I don't know how to just answer that. If someone says "How did you do the ___?" I actually tell them how I did it because they asked for something specific and I knew what they wanted to know so I give them the answer to it
Last one DOESNT make any sense for advice, because if that type of style was so bad, why is it simultaneously extremely popular? It’s almost like? People find anime aesthetics pleasing to the eye? It’s not posh classical art, sure, but it’s art too! People who parade that around should look on webcomic sites and see the staggering numbers those comics get, there’s a clear love and support for an anime style... if anything? Anime work is probably a good plan for commercial work? I don’t aspire to be an artist as my main job, but I do think it’d be really great to make a webcomic someday with my art skills I’ve developed and will continue to. Surely, there will be an audience for my work somewhere if they like the story enough. Those snobby people never have to view it, because an art gallery simply isn’t the demographic
I’ve always been confused when people say they don’t like anime like what? Anime is one of the more realistic and technical styles out there. Maybe their faces aren’t very realistic, but the hair? The anatomy? The clothing? All very real and most of the time very fluid. I mean, look at things like Violet Evergarden and Land of the Lustrous THOSE ARE ALL BEAUTIFUL as well as incredibly detailed and people dare say it’s not art
@@sabrexi7228 Actually there are still good *and* bad anime styles, both types of which can entail cartoony or realistic stuff (e.g. Junji Ito vs Sanrio) Anime isn't really a "style" but rather a sort of descriptor or umbrella term for something that resembles certain japanese animated media (vague, I know, that's the point) The main reason most art teachers don't like it is that the students who use it usually only focus on trying to make it look like a specific anime style instead of their own Also, I'm sure you've seen your fair share of horrendous anime as well, whether it be made by company professionals or deviantart amateurs
Most of the people who ask me, "how did you get so good at drawing?" aren't looking for a real answer, they just want an offhand way of complimenting me so that they'll be excused for snooping over my shoulder while I'm drawing.
Usually that's when I reply with 'practice' since it's an easy answer lol. Sometimes I think they want to know how to draw something but if they get put off by the thought of doing it more than once then I don't think they're that dedicated lol.
At least you're open-minded enough to recognize your shortcomings. I don't know you but I'm proud of you because so many people just get more stubborn when they realize they're wrong about something. Good job, fellow TH-cam commenter.
MelikoYT same! It’s way less confining and you don’t have to worry about anatomy and how realistic it is and how close it is to the reference. It’s great. I still do semi-realism occasionally because the practice is still really good for you and can help you improve, but for now I’m gonna stick with mainly cartoonish styles lol.
An art style is something that is different for every person, If one person draws very realistic and the other draws cartoons the two are different, what I’m trying to say is that there’s no wrong art style
When this video came out two years ago and I was like, 12, I couldn't understand mostly anything in the video, I didn't get what any of the advice had meant. Now, two years LATER, I understand everything. I practiced, I tried to improve, and along the way I learned certain terms and helpful ways to do things, tips. Now that I return to this video it's much easier to draw. Thank you LavenderTowne for all of your amazing videos, they're very helpful and I've learnt a lot from them.
I completely agree. I’m my high school drawing class, we were pretty much only allowed to draw realistic (except for maybe Inktober) and it ruined my art. I still draw, but I can’t do as expressive poses or anything. It really makes me sad. Though, in a weird way, knowing that I’m not the only one that’s had this problem makes me feel a bit better. Like I’m not alone. I mean, I’ve been drawing cartoons since I was a little kid, comics and stuff, but after that drawing class of learning “the right way” to draw, my art just doesn’t look as fun.
This is one of the reasons I'm kinda don't want to join my art class at high school. It does more realistic art (from what I've seen) and I have more of an anime art style.
I just figured that out today when I watched this video 😕 I can't do my old style anymore, I'm always too focused on realistic proportions and muscles. *glass shattered*
I get what you guys mean. I'm dealing with that myself. Another habit is getting so afraid of not being perfect, to the point of not drawing certain body parts at all, like no ears, nose, hands, legs and/or feet, both eyes and etc. I'm still working on that myself, mostly the legs and arms. I've gotten better with help and extra references though, so don't quit guys!
Well high school art classes are a joke and technically they’re there to teach you fundamentals of art which a lot of them want anatomically correct pieces. It’s not about teaching you to have “fun” art, it’s teaching you how to correct things and thinking of anatomical correctness. Of course once you know how to do anatomy and the fundamentals, then you can learn to exaggerate those features to fit “your style”
Similar to my story, but I started drawing cartoony anime style. But I then went to a drawing class to learn how to draw realistic portraits. It doesn't effect me much, since I was still drawing in my style while going to those classes. Now I'm drawing in my style since it's what I'm comfortable with, but I can still draw realism. I'm glad that I still continued to draw in my style while learning realism.
This was in high school but I am so scared of showing my drawings to anyone because of what happen I mostly keep them to myself. From a young age, I loved to draw, mainly the PowerPuff Girls were my obsession. Classmates would ask me to draw them etc. But then we had the art class. I tried my hardest when we learned realism. It wasn't amazing it look semi-realistic at least. But for two years no matter how hard I tried the teacher used my art as an example of "bad art". I remember a specific day where she picked up my drawing and to the entire class said: "that this wasn't how the assignment is supposed to look like use this an example of what not to do". At the end of my years in art class, I did get some drawings she liked. Mainly my perspective drawings. That was the only drawings she ever praised me for. And then she had the audacity to ask my mom "why aren't they more confident in themselves?". I wonder why. Long story short. If you ever see my drawings because I showed it you congrats. I trust you enough that you won't make fun of my bad drawings. Edit: The most responses I have ever gotten. For anyone else reading this in the future just know that I truly appreciate all of the kind words! And if you are struggling with confidence in your art like me just know that even though I don't have the courage to show it to people often our art is not horrible in any shape or form after all art is subjective. Let's all work together on improving both skills-wise and confidence in showcasing our art. Have a wonderful day.
Well, honey, your teacher was (and might still be) trash, publicly humiliating students never made them better at anything. I hope you'll get self confident with your art now. So @ all of yall, you doing great, keep going
That's downright traumatizing. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I hope you will feel safe to continue pursuing art and to show them to people. You deserve to have true fans.
@@purplekitti5784 I find it unfortunate that the things I remember from my childhood are only things like the one I mentioned above. At this point in my life, at 19, I don't think I will ever be fully comfortable to post things online. Although I sincerely appreciate the fact you think I deserve fans even though I don't see why I they would like my art today I hope tomorrow will be a better day for me.
@Kaiya Flores Faircloth You are right in saying that teacher had no right. I think she honestly forgot she wasn't teaching university students like she used to but rather 12-13-year-olds. Still, I am glad you think my art is amazing at least one of us does.
if anyone were to ask me for any tips, (digital artists) I'd say: learn about your drawing program/app and find a brush that will work for you, trust me, i used to use the basic own and it made my art look less put together
If someone asked me for help drawing, the conversation would probably go 1/3 ways. Beginning with: “what’s the issue” New artist: “I’m trying to learn anatomy” Me: “look up references on the human body, and then sketch that with you style thrown in. It helps to learn proportions.” Scenario 2: Newbie artist: “I’m trying to learn faces” Me: “realistic, or anime?” Newbie artist: (“anime”/“realism”) Me: (for anime) “look up the faces out of anime characters you like. Try to notice a recurring pattern. Or just trace a face. If you noticed the recurring pattern, then draw it in your style.” (Realism) “get a mirror or photo and learn the proportions of your face or theirs. Shading is key” Aspiring newcomer to the art community: “I’m trying to learn hands” Me: “get references or learn with your hand in the position of your subject” (These are also tips for real aspiring artists) Last tip that applies to all three: “SHADE. it’s what makes your peace look 3D. This only applies to anyone trying to draw cartoon or realistic.
On the digital brushes thing, try making your own custom brushes! If you can’t find a brush that’s the one you want, take the closest thing to it and modify!
9:36 Awww, HECK YEAH, LavenderTowne! Thank you SO MUCH for saying it's ok to draw fanart styles, and for straight-out mentioning Adventure Time and Steven Universe. Not only because I hardcore stan those shows and I'll continue to stan them for as long as I live, but also because drawing fanart of them and/or drawing in their styles is helping me grow as an artist. Doing that helps me push myself into drawing more facial expressions that I didn't try before when I did photorealistic pencil portraits and landscapes. Practicing my character design in their styles helps me learn more of the basics that I wasn't allowed to learn before by my strict teachers. I used to do a LOT of photorealistic drawings and didn't have as much fun doing them as I am now with my cartoony style. That's why I use the pointers you kindly give us. Not to say I copy your style, I just use some of the tips you say helped you develop the style you're comfortable with, to develop my own tastes. On top of that, THANK YOU for validating artists like myself, who enjoy doing cartoony or stylized drawings. I was often made to feel that NOT doing realism made me less of an artist or meant I have less skill than someone who does realism. Even now, when people ask me what I draw, I almost feel ashamed to show them my OCs, costume designs, fanart (always wholesome and cute, never NSFW... I don't think I'll ever do NSFW) because I'm afraid it'll underwhelm them. And then I remind myself that as long as I love what I'm drawing and have fun drawing it, it's ok!
The problem with "just practice" is that you're not specifying that practicing includes learning anatomy, color theory, linework, etc and if you just keep drawing without studying any of those your art will barely improve
Exactly. And learning anatomy is the hard part and -I believe- is most of the practice that you should do especially if you’re a beginner . Then again this is only from my point of view but saying just “just practice” is only to keep your hand’s memory muscles working other than improving your art WHILE keeping your hand consistent and loose. But just like i said in the beginning learning anatomy comes first and while doing so (like experimenting poses and drawing references) you’ll learn to be loose and consistent. -sorry if I bore you with my talk and please excuse my mistakes english is not my first language ^^-
I believe that finding out what "practice" entails is the job of the asker. They want to get better, they should just google on how to practice effectively and what to practice. There is so much information out there. If the asker wants to know sth specific that "the pro" seem to know, than ask that.
Someone once told me: You're not japanese, stop drawing anime. So I just told them, you're not Italian stop eating pizza And they just looked at me and then left
I realise that nobody is going to read this, but you can “learn the rules” in a cartoon style as well as a realistic style. Like, sure, realism is incredibly helpful to do occasionally, but with, for example, anatomy, I personally found it easier to draw it realistically *after* I figured it out in a cartoon style. That is just my personal opinion, and it might be completely different to other people as I have a lot of differences in learning patterns, but knowing how to draw cartoons (which just to clarify, I shade my cartoons in a pretty realistic way) made it easier to draw realism.
Yeah I totally agree! I've learnt basic anatomy and proportions from improving my more cartoonish art style so when I try to draw more realistic figures they turn out fairly accurate.
i want to learn anatomy and proportions, but i have no idea how :( like how do i practice anatomy? do i just use a lot of references? i'm literally so lost and i really want my art to be better
@@sparklingsora first I recommend learning some proportions and how things line up, for example small details. ( example: the top of your ears line up with your eyes and the bottom of your ears line up with the bottom of your nose ) You can probably do some research on things like how far your arms go down your body, and (for more realistic drawings) how many heads tall the whole figure should be. Once you have an understanding of where things should go practice drawing some poses, which you can find if you look up ' drawing references ' go to one of the websites, which usually have a lot of pictures. After doing many poses to start to get an idea of how the body moves and could try drawing a pose without a reference or making a pose up yourself. Dont be afraid to use yourself as a reference if you're stuck, maybe just sit in front of a mirror and do some poses yourself. The more you practice the more you will have an understanding of basic anatomy. After that its really up to you what you want to do, and you can always study in more detail like looking at the anatomy of a hand to really be confident and know what you're doing. That's all I have haha and I'm definitely not professional but that's what ive been doing and I have gotten much better at poses.
BRUH it's as if they think that cartoonists don't have their own set of propertions they abide by on purpose and/or study anatomy, angles, lighting etc thoroughly so that they can have their basic idea on how to make their cartoon drawings look better, like I think my old drawings with no sense of proportions look absolutely hideous even though they were drawn in a cartoon style.
Some advice I have to give is that you should absolutely make fan art. Learning a skill using both your desire to learn and something you're already passionate about has helped me not only stay motivated, but taken me outside my comfort zone to learn things I've struggled with drawing in the past!
Worse comment on my art ever: “I could never draw as well as you.” Okay 1: I’m no professional 2: you CAN There’s two types of people who’ve told me this. 1: The type of people who’ve never drawn since an assignment in kindergarten. Of coarse you can’t, just as I can’t throw a football, heck my hand doesn’t even fit around the ball. I can’t do a summer salt to save my life. It takes just as much practice to draw as it does for your hobby. I know it’s coming from a good place but it comes across as somewhat condescending towards art in general The second group are beginner artists. I mean hello, YES YOU CAN!! In five years I better see something greater than what I’m drawing now. That mindset will always come, there’s always someone better than you. Get over it. If you keep thinking that than art will become a competition you’ll always lose. It’s okay to be disheartened when comparing yourself to those more experienced than you, but you’ve got to be able to let that go otherwise you’ll always be dissatisfied with your own art. I’ve often heard you should only compare your art with your own art, and I completely disagree. If you only pay attention to your own work you’ll never improve but you should never let that discourage you. Art is already hard enough, as unrecognized as it is, don’t add fabricated inability add to that, one day you WILL draw as well and then even better. I sure hope I do the same. As great as whatever you’re complementing may seem, I better improve. It’s okay to use other’s work as inspiration or as a reference to where you want to go, but you need to be able to stand on your own art style. No two artists are the same so FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING GOOD AND GREAT IN THIS WORLD DON’T YOU DARE COMPARE MY ART WITH YOURS!
Yeah, this exact comment really grinds my gears for the same reasoning as you. It also makes me feel weirdly guilty for being good at drawing, and it's like they're guilt tripping me for being at the level I am instead of worse, even if that's not the intention behind the comment.
Reddit tea ~ Don't give up! I don't draw once in a while, but I still do draw. It's okay to suck, you WILL improve. I believe you can 💖 Just have hope and you'll slowly improve!
@Reddit tea might be because you practise wrong, it's good to take a break, when you think you are ready and look back at your art you will see where did you go wrong For me watching "over paint" video helps me a lot cus it teach me how to fix my problem, you just need to know where to fix first (Hope you can understand, still learning english)
@Reddit tea You probably just need the right teacher, medium to work in, and motivation. My art teacher had a student once that said to stop her if she's just too bad. She hadn't stopped ever. My mom thinks she's bad but she'd done something with a group that turned out quite alright. Everyone can do it. Like I said, you just have to have the right teacher, and probably the motivation as well. If you _want_ to do it, you can do it. You can try different mediums too. Most people start off with graphite, but sometimes people find other mediums easier to learn first. Just depends on you. :)
@@qold5900 like when someone said "you are already so good you are better than me!" ...you didn't draw for like...ever? Don't want to be mean but it' pretty annoying when people look down on me for trying real hard for "just a drawing" because I'm better than people who pay to get their art assignment done for them
when I was younger and was in the early stages of my art skills I used to love drawing wolves and cats and my little ponies. I wanted to branch out of that and draw humans what gave me the motivation was seeing one of my friends drawing a human. I tried doing it right there and then and she said "you should stick to what you're good at" :/
“you should stick to what your good at” is probably one of the worst things you could say to an artist and i always encourage my friends and myself to expand their comfort zones when it comes to art
Never stick to what you're good at, if you did that you would still be pooping yourself and drinking from a baby bottle. I could never draw people, I gave up literally decades ago. The other day I suddenly had an inspiration to draw some people and, to my amazement, they weren't half bad. I always found drawing people to be intimidating because when they look wrong, they look very wrong. The intimidation made me stiff and hesitant and stopped me learning. I guess I've just got less scared. So yeah, your friend was not helpful. Tune it out if you can.
Something I see all the time is “Never use bases” And while I don’t think you should stick to bases very long. It’s very ok to use them as they actually can help you get better. They helped me a lot. And I bet a lot of digital artists started out with bases. Since traditional art and digital art are way too different mediums, bases helped me become better at digital art and get used to things when I switched from traditional That being said you shouldn’t use bases too much as it can halt your progress a bit
Yes at first my drawing was like: ⬆️↖️⬆️↖️⬆️and now it is like after using bases: ⬆️⬆️⬆️ I actually use bases in each drawing but I am trying to not use bases anymore.
i dont use bases since i was taught by my parents n myself but yeah, using bases help you understand how those things even work. We should move away from bases later on, but when u draw on bases they give u the sense of how things should work and it will remain in ur memory, but drawing from scratch gives u crooked bases if u just started learning.
I use bases to get me back on my feet if I'm in a really bad art block. Sometimes I'll even trace my own art as a warm up because sometimes the idea of creating something from nothing is enough to make me shut off my screen.
I agree, I like to start with bases when drawing something new (like humans) so that I can already have the form, and I can work on improving one thing at a time (hair, clothing, face)
Am I the only one who doesn’t use bases? It slows me down and doesn’t do anything. Btw I’m talking about my experiences with trying to use bases. I’m not trying to be rude.
as a beginner artist, Yes. learning art can be daunting. there really is SO much to learn. Anatomy, expressions, proportions, lighting, shading, learning how to use the art program of your choice and so much more. But thankfull alot of youtubers including yourself have playlist for beginners that help out alot! eventually i was able to hone down the basics and just study those. Basics for me being anatomy and learning CSP! :)
Try using reference and take inspiration from artist and art styles you like. Start out with simple reference like a side profile or someone looking directly at the camera and try to draw a cartoonfyed or more simple version of that picture, whatever your style is. Watch videos on shading, coloring, plane’s, line art different body types and ages, specific things you have a hard time drawing, that type of thing. I know you weren’t asking specifically for advice with this comment, but just though I would share^^
Sadly, I am guilty of saying 'just practice.' I tend to do it because I really don't have any rules or specific way i do things, and put on the spot by a beginner who looks up to me I resort to that. However,there are time where I do give a tip but it normally means more questions or the beginner artist completely disregards what I say.
Hi! For me, what worked best was trying different styles. All the different styles really trained me and taught me how many ways one thing could be portrayed. It also taught me a lot of fundamentals. I would say to find some artists or shows that styleize a lot, and try basically copying that for a bit. Then move on to another. Also, drawing fanart helps if you dont know what to draw. The biggest thing I can reccomend is just to have fun and do what feels right to you, not what other people want out of you. ^^
You where way better than you where last year. That's practice. You won't see the improvement at that point but when you look back you can see the Change
As a person who has told people in the past "practice" when they asked me how I got good at art, this video made me think-- I just kinda realized that when I said that to them what I really meant to say is don't ever *stop* practicing. Don't ever give up. You will have ups and downs. You will want to quit some days-- keep on pushing. All the successful artists were once just determined kids with a dream & a hatred of drawing hands. X) Thanks to this video I'll probably revise that statement of just 'practice'. This is a really good video and I really agree with the points you made, thank you for the amazing content Lavendertowne :)
When it comes to the "Learn the rules before you break them" thing, I feel like there's truth in both sides. On the one hand, drawing from realism and learning the fundamentals of art can teach you valuable skills. On the other hand, JUST doing that before drawinf what you want will kill art as an interest. I belive that it's about balance (like many things in life.) You can still draw cartoons, anime, and similar things, but it's also important to learn the rules to understand WHY these things work the way they do. Doing both can let you sort of see how your skills synergize with each other. I've heard from other art instructors and channels that a good work ethic for art is 80% drawing what you want and 20% practice. TL:DR of all of this is to do both! Both sides have valid reasons for existing and you can get a lot further from studying multple sides.
I treat the rules as general guidelines. I never actually practiced drawing realistic faces just to learn, but little tips like "the ears are the size of the space between the nose and eyes", "the hand is as big as your face", etc, I treat as things to keep in mind while drawing my own stuff. The third invisible eye, for example, is a thing I know about but never do because *giant anime eyes* in a *literal circle for a head* so if I did that the math wouldn't math 😂
Normally I tell people to "just practice" as a response to, "Oh why are you so good and I'm so bad, I'll never get to that level, you're lucky you're so talented" yada yada. I hate that mentality so much, because it makes it seem like being a "good artist" is just a lucky coincidence.
Just tell them it takes 10,000 hours to get good at doing anything - and that's how *you* got good at drawing - and that's what *they* need to do in order to get good. I swear most of these people complaining about being told to "Just practice" are really only looking for shortcuts because they aren't prepared to put the time in. There are no shortcuts. You have to work at things to get good. That means practice. If you're serious about it you need to get your nose to paper now.
Practice is still important, but beginners need to be led in the right direction on what exactly to practice. Like how I just figured out right now 2 years after college what I want to specialize in (3D Cartoon Character Modeling), but until then, I wasted too much time trying to get good at everything and all styles when I probably would have had a job now if I simply focused on good, easy-to-read character designs and translating such designs to 3D.
The thing is, some people do practice ALL THE TIME, and still don't make much progress. I am that person. I've loved drawing since I was tiny, I carry sketchbooks with me everywhere, and I draw daily. However, I can look at things I did a year apart and see next to no improvement. I use references and study figure drawing books. My mom used to come home to find pages and pages of nothing but hands and feet, because that's what I was struggling the most with. Eventually I just had to come to the conclusion that I improve much slower than most people do, and try not to get frustrated when I run into someone half my age who's better than I am. I've seen people who improved more in a year than I did in 5 or more, and it's hard not to get demoralized from that. Some people do just have a natural gift for certain things, and some have to work ten times harder to get anywhere.
I feel like if your asking for advice to get better you need to be specific, this is a example "how do you draw anatomy?" Or "how to you piant/shade skin?" Or "how do you draw eyes?".
When you filled in “Stop Drawing Fan Art” that really hit hard. I’ve heard that kind of ‘advice’ for a long time. You’re totally right-if it gets you drawing and creating, it’s worthy art to make. It’s nice to have you in my corner 🥰
The part you shared about being taught to draw via the grid and a reference picture...it struck SUCH a cord with me. I've always said that I can basically make a copy of anything but have always been beyond frustrated that I couldn't create my own content that looked as good a quality. You perfectly articulated it, thank you! This has helped me a lot in knowing what issue I've having and where to start fixing it!
The biggest thing that I hate is basically the last thing you said: People telling others their art has no value. LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE PIECE of art has value! Whether it be because you made a masterpiece, you improved your art skills to make a masterpiece later on, you experimented and learned something new, you made yourself happy by making art or even just got through a tough day by drawing, art is meaningful and should never be called useless or unimportant.
Allso ink paper and lines of kode has value so even ignoring everything you sead it has value but the fine art komunity on the other hand youst pass around money to make it more valuble and exploit the fackt that its imposible to realy know how mutch its worth.
Art teachers don’t deserve that title if they can’t believe that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My art is basically something you’d see in a manga. (A fully colored manga) I felt like crap every time my art teacher came by and told me my art was wrong. And to make it worse, I never liked drawing realistically. So, my teacher might as well had just rip my art up and spat on the pile of paper that used to be my art, because that’s what it felt like. It freaking hurt and I’ll probably never go back to art class.
The “just practice” one is really important. I’ve searched on the web tons for ways to learn anatomy for art, and almost every time 1 of the 3 art tips they have is “just practice”. That doesn’t help at all. A really good art tip that actually helped me is to break somebodies anatomy down to the most basic shapes possible, then to keep noticing little details in that anatomy, (like how the torso feels like it’s made up of two parts; one with the chest and the other with the stomach, and how there is a slight bend blending those two parts together), and keep using those little details to make the basic shapes more and more complex until you eventually have a full human shape!
When I see other people talking about their art teacher, I realize mine is cool af. She's encouraging students to try new techniques like digital art, She gives very vague subject so we can do something that we really like We're free to get inspiration from anime or manga She gives very funny subjects And there was that work she gave to 6 graders where they had to make the Joconde, but Japanese style.
I remember once when I was in middle school(which wasn’t the greatest time for me) I was in my home room class and i was drawing my oc’s. Then all of a sudden someone for real grabbed my paper and showed everyone it and there were like girls too no everyone was criticizing me for it and telling me that”Why are the characters like that” or”This stinks” or better yet”You should stop drawing”, I almost fell for it until my friends started telling me to forge those guys and continue on. So, that’s what i did, and I’m improving well, like I’m now learning more about anatomy ad poses which I really wanted to learn. SO the reason I made this comment is to give some of my own advice(somewhat) its, if anyone criticizes your art or what Lavender says “Stop drawing”, pls don’t and try not to think about that too much, just continue on what you love to draw and you’ll be good, trust me👍
Here's advise from probably my art teacher: "don't draw anthro animals so cartoon like" mind you this was in a basic art class for no specific topics :/ like damn why do they gotta be so rude about it lol
This reminds me of a Tumblr post where the OP knew this kid in, like, middle school who only used Sonic as subject matter for all of their school art projects. The teacher got really mad, but couldn't fail the kid because they were abiding by the project's rules.
Thank you for saying something about the “stop drawing cartoons, anime, etc.” thing. I mainly draw cartoons, anime, and not super realistic things overall and I’ve gotten so upset when people say things like that. It’s so annoying and it destroys your confidence in your drawings :(
to get into the art school i go to, my portfolio couldn’t include ANY “stylized” (like anime or cartoon) work. It’s so strange to me because nowadays that’s how you can find a stable path as an artist, it’s crazy that that’s being discouraged.
Since I see a lot of Art teacher Comments...I'll go ahead and share my experience...My Art teacher was a pretty laid back guy...in fact, we watched a lot of Hayao Miyazaki and studied people like Kehinde Wiley and Amy Sherald...He never told us that we Had to be perfect and in the end, he always said that Whatever he drew he did not want our drawings to look exactly like his because everyone had their own style...very few failed his class because he said that as long as the Artwork Looked good, conveyed a message, Showed a Character or told the observer something...then it was good...this meaning Manga Art, Fan Art, Visual Art, and Imaginary art were all valid...We did self-portraits with him one time and everyone passed because everyone did good and in their own style...Here's something I wish I knew when I got into Art class...You shouldn't try and Exact copy of your art teacher...You should take what they drew and try to make it your own and explore your art style...if a teacher is telling you that Your Art Style is bad or it's not Valid (If you're in a specific kind of art class for a certain Art style then your own art style probably isn't supposed to be turned in) then maybe they're not the best teacher...because in life no one is looking for another Vincent or another Leonardo or another Kehinde...They're looking for an Original You.
And not just you’re art teacher Everyone You shouldn’t try to copy you’re friend Or mom or anyone Just do art that you love And do it with fun And make it *Original* Because *You are also Original*
To add on to her “using many references” tip, I also suggest that when making a character, you can combine aspects of many character designs to make your own!
I remember a time when I was a freshman in college when I brought my old art portfolio with all my anime drawings from high school and my classmates were looking at it, complimenting my art style; then my professor gave a snarky comment about how I should stop drawing anime and that it has no business being 'art'. I was just shattered.
Some people be like: "Don't draw cartoons, anime, etc." Me sitting here being like: *No thanks, it's the reason I got into drawing and motivated me to try different styles etc, and it's the reason I improved and still love art.*
I think when a lot of people say “learn the rules before you break them” it means like,, learn the basics. Obviously there will be those that take it to the extreme but y’all need to learn the basics of how legs work before you decide to go crazy w/ them lmao
"Stop drawing furries" that hit a little hard. (I quit drawing furries out of fear of being ridiculed. When I want to draw something fluffy and cartoony I rarely do so in public. I was legit called a furry in my art class for drawing a cartoony dog. Of course, it was just a stupid E-Boy but it sTIll hURTs sIncE hE mADe iT INtO aN iNSUlT) of course, Im kind of just saying "screw it, I do what I want" and made the character that I portray myself with online into a fursona. I regret nothing since the character is so much fun to draw and is very cute ngl. And dont stereotype people, for Christ's sake. It sucks to have one little piece of a fanbase be the entire thing to others.
When someone tells you that just respond with "no one has a problem with Disndy doing it". Becouse people are stupid and always forget that disney makes money with "furry" art!
God I never understand why people hate on furries, the art is so adorable and I have genuinely never had a bad experience with someone in the community! Plus yall are so cute and sweet 😭
Oh my gosh! The thing with forgetting how to stylize really got me hard! It's so true. I'm so used to drawing with every single little detail that it's made it so difficult for me to draw more complicated things I'm not as used to drawing and simplify them to make them easier!
So when I was a freshman in high school, I use to draw a lot. Like I almost had a portfolio full of what I thought were great drawings that I had put so much time into. I got compliments from some of my classmates & friends, & as you guys know, hearing compliments about your artwork makes you happy. Well at this time, I was in an art class, & I wanted to show my art teacher what he thought of my work. Now granted, I knew there were things I needed to improve on & become better at, but he didn't like any of my drawings. They were all cartoons & anime stylized, & he said that I wouldn't be good enough if I kept drawing in that style. I honestly wish that I hadn't asked him to look at my artwork to this day, because when I do draw, I have that lingering in the back of my mind, & it's so discouraging. I love drawing, & I wanted to make a career out of it. But I now always have that mindset of "You're not good enough, & you won't ever be good enough." I'm sorry about the long post btw, I just wanted to share my experience. ✌🏻
Gosh, that Art teacher must be eating pencil lead for every meal-- to actually have the stupidity to say that to an aspiring artist. Gods im annoyed llike fuck
About the whole “use more than one reference photo”, I can confirm that this helps, especially if what you picture in your head is different from what you are using as a reference. I am a beginner artist and recently I drew a girl in a forest with a cloak on, and I ended up searching up many photos that had examples of parts that I wanted, and I am really satisfied with the result. I find it easier if I can see what I want to end up with physically instead of just picturing it
I agree ...looking up photos for poses and references DOES help especially if you are a beginner artist like me and can't picture your own images in your head.
For the longest time, people would mock my art for looking very anime. This is when I was drawing what I thought was realistic, or semi-realism. I fought really hard to change my style, to destroy everything 'anime' about it. Yet, every picture I drew, looked "too anime". This progressed into fully rendered paintings. Into me directly practicing from photography. Into everything I did. That was the most damaging thing someone has ever done to me, constantly make me look at my art and hate it because I thought it would forever look like a particular style. Even today, I look at my art, and I see the anime roots I came from in it, and it pushes me away from art entirely, adding depression and anxiety into the mix. But then, I know consciously even though I cannot shake the fear, that "anime" is everything from Shin-Chan to Final Fantasy. That Western comics share things I believed were dead give aways. It turns out, that through all the terror of being perceived as just another anime artist, somehow I began to believe human faces just *looked* anime in general, unless they were extremely cartoony, in line with Steven Universe and Adventure Time. Since anime was such a wide field, with millions of styles, I somehow taught myself to fear drawing human faces because even photos looked a bit "too anime" to me at times. It's wild what a few weird comments can do to a kid's mind when you bash their art with the same discouraging comment over time, when really, it's the commenters just calling anything drawn whatsoever "anime." Ironically, I started out drawing Invader Zim/Disney style, so like- ya'll. It's just art. Draw what you love. Don't worry about what people call it. That "Cal Arts style" and that "Tumblr style" crap is nothing but people who think they're all talking about the same thing and all their pet peeves about it, but they're really not. They're just trying to look cool and elite when they aren't.
Do yourself a favor and draw what you want for 1 month no matter what anyone says! I bet money you’ll feel better and never go back to trying to please people (who probably CAN’T draw again). Be kind to people, but this is YOUR life not theirs. Woop.
The realistic art and stylized art part is so true. Before digital, I was already drawing portraits of people traditionally. When I got a pentab, naturally I draw realistic subjects because it's what I'm used to. I kept drawing realistic for a year, I didn't even think about widening my skills and knowledge in other art styles. Now I'm struggling SO HARD trying to do stylized drawing to the point that I'm starting to doubt myself.
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"Stop Drawing Fan art."
Fan Art is the thing that taught me how to draw
If ur gonna apply to art school they don't wanna see fan art in ur portfolio tho, that's a reason ppl say that
exactly
rabiesboy what if you’re just a really serious hobbyist
@@name-eo1lv ya, I ain't I'm going to go to art school
@@tazzredbandana6911 you may have some issues then. art schools dont typically ever want you to include anime art or fanart within your portfolio. think about that, and the fact art school makes you take more classes than only art related ones, and you mostly have to draw realism.
I think the worst advice I’ve ever heard is “If you’ve improved at all as an artist, you should hate your old art. If you don’t hate it, you’re either not improving your skill or your eye.” And while that may be true, it really hurts when I’ve spent my life coming up with characters and creatures. My first sketches of them are like their baby pictures! I love them ^_^
Honestly i always felt it was more of the opposite,you end up appreciating both the efforts flaws and how much you evolved
i think most people use the word hate in place of embarrass lol. i love my old drawings bc they’re so bad its cute, but they embarrass me to no end, so i technically do “hate” them, even if i would never get rid of any of them.
Yes! You shouldn't always have to worship perfection. Its important to have an eye for all levels of art in order to give out good advice to yourself and to others.
yeah, you should be able to criticize your own art and see where you've learned/still need to fix your work but i love my old art, flaws and all. i'm not going to act like they don't mean a lot to me, and quite a few of them were breakthrough pieces for me even if they don't hold up to my current skill level
The person who made that advice is an utter fool. Like, bruh, I do have my old arts that I still like until now. I can still spot the flaws including anatomy mistakes and lack of rendering techniques on my old drawings, but that doesn't mean I don't like/hate my old drawings.
Also without your old arts, your new arts won't exist.
I had a professor that basically didn’t like anything stylized (even though the project was suppose to be stylized) because she thought that realism was the only “correct” form of art
So did Hitler
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that was wonderful
Plot twist, Karan Brown’s art teacher was Hitler
@•Lemonichoux•
Very true, very very true.
@@julesis-dead6751 on a serious note, I don't get it.
"drawing cartoons is a diffrent skill than drawing realistic"
Best quote Ive heard in a long time.
yea same my art teacher forces us to draw realism but my style is more cartoony with big eyes and stuff like that
@@NovaTheScreechingDragon SAME!
@@The_Imperatrix pog :D are you better at drawing animals or humans (i prefer animals, im not good at drawing humans eh)
@@NovaTheScreechingDragoniam good a critters of hell
@@NovaTheScreechingDragon same
I remember in painting class a lot of kids just kept drawing memes. My teacher loved it
well idk if they still are an artist and want to be or just do it sometimes just for fun, but i bet they still draw memes if someone tells them to draw
lucky
Ani Cz what did you paint?
there's always a meme artist in class and we love them
no art teacher should ever be discouraging that kind of enthusiasm and creativity
Here’s another one: “NEVER EVER SHADE WITH BLACK IT CANT LOOK GOOD!!”
Yes, soft shading with black is a bad idea in a lot of scenarios and this is definitely a rule a lot of the time. But buddy, an important part of “learn the rules before you break them” is the “break them” bit. Because you can definitely break them. Look at American superhero comic books. Or some pop art. Or black and white pieces. etc.
This applies to a lot of stuff actually, I don’t think there’s many places in art where “never do this!” is completely solid advice.
The only thing in art you shouldn’t do is expect yourself to get better after drawing 6 things.
It takes more like hundreds to get kinda good.
I suck, but I’m proud and improving.
ZodiacMoon absolutely, that’s super important too
people who do ink drawings (black and white): 😿
the never shade with black thing is just for paintings. If you don't know how to properly use black it can make your paintings look really muddy. But if you know how to use it it can be a powerful tool for dramatic paintings.
I feel like most black shading should be used to express emotion
Telling an artist to not draw cartoons or anime is like telling a writer they’re not allowed to write fiction
EDIT: I’m talking about the type of teachers or people that say you can’t draw anime because THEY don’t like that style and they think it has no place in the art world and can’t get you anywhere. Not if you’re in a realism class and they rightfully say that anime in a realism class isn’t appropriate.
Yup, my whole style is based of anime so... ART TEACHERS THAT HATE ANIME......
*TAKE YOUR OPINION AND STICK IT UP YOUR A-*
Opal Playgacha and anime/animation can get you fucking money so idk why art teachers hate it so much
Art teachers: don’t draw anime or cartoons >:(((
Me, who wanted their class to improve my cartoonish anime-ish style: aight imma head out
Me: Focused in realism ALOT
Art Class- No Cartoons!
Me: Starts to draw DuckTales fanart and it looks not that good atm because of my lack of experience drawing cartoons.
@skeptic ? You can still know and practice drawing foundations without directly drawing realistically, even from time to time. Not wanting to/not being able to draw realistically doesn't make you a bad artist
Funny thing is, realistic drawing isn't even "the rules"
It's shapes.
Realism isn’t “the rules” at all. It’s just the foundation: it keeps everything stable but you do not need the thickest foundation in the world in order to use bricks.
I do not need to know what every muscle and bone is called to draw some thick anime girls, I just need to know the basic shapes 💀
@@YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah EXACTLY
@@YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYahor- nah I will keep it by myself, you are just right. 🤜🤓
The worst advice was: "Real artists don't need references!".
normalize 👏 artists 👏 using 👏 references 👏 👏 they help improve your skill and stop art blocks 👏 👏 👏
If someone say this to you,say this:
*"How house and city were made?art work idea of Artist right?"*
(i know no one ask this but lol)
edit: Pssppspsps would you like to see Zyto Tempol replies down there lol
edit 2: As an artist who is rarely using reference,without reference is not alright at all,if reference doesnt exist,there must be less artist here if they dont dare to try without using reference,first of all,follow the drawing the steps in your mind is not that easy and the hand will struggling using lineart without a reference,its also not easy to have the beginner artist advice to do this,now think how the cartoons,manga,comic and anime are made right?All the arts you seen has been use reference,once again if reference doesn't exist,then the fucking masterpiece won't have exist too,dont be small brain,monalisa painting has a reference and being most popular art in the world because reference exist
now you say to someone get off from art when they use reference?Your the one get off from fucking art community and go shame yourself when you look back at this,we dont care if you have anxiety about this because holy shit you are dumb as f***k (-Respond to Zyto Tempol)
edit 3: I think im too harsh im deeply sorry about that Zyto
Like I'm supposed to have a perfect image of lets say a moldy hybrid cheese robbing a bakery???
That's nonsense. You can't possibly know every item that ever existed in the world well enough to draw it and paint it convincingly. Besides, that means that artists like Leonardo Da Vinci and Vincent Van Gogh weren't real artists because they used references.
Supposed i want to draw a danganronpa character i will need references right?
Once I bought a "how to draw " book and it literally said:
step one: circle
Step two head and details
Me: * visible confusion *
Same. Mine was on anatomy and it goes:
“Draw the head first.
Then, the arms.
Now add the legs, and youre done!”
_What happened to the torso, hair, facial features, and literally anything with context?_
I got a “how to draw: realistic/basic objects,” and “people” was a topic. It literally just drew lines over the face and said to “sketch the lighting over your base”- jsjsjsjs where’s the base and how do I draw it-
レボレイロマルゴット it's like Spongebob, but reversed.
Same for me so draw this
Make a head shape
Redraw it seven times
Details
Expression
Lighting
Done
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I often get people saying
"You aren't from Japan, stop copying Japanese art style. Stop drawing anime"
That's the dumbest thing to say. Dont let them get to you and you keep doing you. 👍
I’m not from Spain, does it mean I can’t eat their oranges??
Here in the philippines, I don't know if this place even has a specific artstyle, we just draw whatever the shit we wanna draw
@@sangonomiyakokomi5764 lmao true in a single public school class someone knows how to draw cartoons someone in Realism someone in the middle and the rest just... ehh stickman :D dkdkdkxkfk
Prejudice sucks
The "Stop drawing ____" part made me remember of a middle school teacher I had, at that time my art style was very manga inspired, and since I wasn't progressing at all, people used to tell me that I always drew the same thing, while complimenting my drawings.
I talked about it with this teacher, and he told me that my drawings looked indeed very similar, like I was drawing what people wanted me to draw. He gave me a sketching book and told me that it would mine, only to my eyes, to express myself not to show nor to fulfill others expectations, to help me with my struggles at that times. And instead of telling me to stop drawing the typical anime girl I was drawing, he told to continue to my heart's content, that when I'll get sick of it I'll naturally get out of my comfort zone to express myself with another style that would be more "myself".
It was quite a long ago now, but both his advice and the sketching book he gave me, helped me improve my art, and be happy about my creations. He left after that year and I never saw him again, although I would have love to thanks him.
It may not work for everyones, but I'm sharing this anecdote in case it helps someone who's reading this~
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What a lovely lad
Thats a lovely teacher
Great teacher
@@YouGottaBeKiwingMeThey truly are a baguette
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The worst thing about most art teachers/critics is that they don't really care about how you feel on specific art styles and tools, they just want to fit their standards and not be amazing in there own way. I've been drawing in a anime/manga/chibii style most of the time and people think that's all I know, but they haven't seen my realistic or concept art styles. The thing is, most of the people who ask for commissions and such don't care if you spent twenty minutes or twenty hours, they just want it to fit there standards like they want cool colours or an extremely detailed city of some sorts. Sometimes If they dont like how you did the art they will say "ugh, you suck at art how'd you even get a job?"and theres even people who say "stop drawing, you have no potential." Now I've gone through all that and I stopped drawing for years because of it, but that doesn't change the fact that art is my job and its how I get my main source of income, and that my art doesnt need to change just to fit their standards. I know that I'm not as good as other people, I also know you shouldnt compare artists to other artists. They lose all their confidence and self esteem, which makes most artists depressed and lose interest in the thing that they love to do. So try to compliment artists and tell them where to improve with constructive criticism. Thank you, for listening to my tedtalk.
I have nothing else to say other than that is so hecking true that i had a panic attack
yea I mean like some people will just not be into your art style and that's totally fine, different people like different things. But most artists that work on commission have examples of their work available to look at before you commission something so if people complain about your art style after commissioning you then that's on them for not checking out your portfolio. And when it comes to teaching and grading art, you need to be unbiased with your grades regardless of your preferred style
When ever it’s art class for us it’s so lucky cause I’m one year we do art 2 times oof
Beautiful that is so true I love doing digital art and drawing video game characters ect cuphead fnaf
Thank you, one thing I love to use is mechanic pencils. Okay I get they aren’t the best for nice pencil shading but whatever. I draw in a cartoonish style with very defined lines, and I already struggle with some of my motor skills, especially as a child, and my handwriting is so atrocious that half the time I can’t even call it legible even to myself. But I’ve found that I really thrive using mechanical pencils. The stupid 2B pencils drive me insane. I want to scream every time an art teacher insisted on making me use a proper pencil. I can but honestly I find it much more enjoyable and easier to just stick to my overpriced mechanical pencil that always has the useless stupid flimsy clip that always breaks no matter how gentle you are with it.
"Stop Drawing fanart"
Renaissance/Classical Painters: Excuse me
Omg you’re right!!!!
lmao our ancestors be trippin'-
this bible fanart looking fresh
a lot of art back then was just bible fan art
:') the slice o' life i needed.
lavendertowne: “saying just practice isn’t great advice”
*the art community has left the chat*
unrelated but i love your pfp😳
Mood.I did that and now I feel guilty.
It’s better to trace things and learn from tracing.
XD
It's good for the first 3 times you tell someone
but when it's the only art advice you give
kinda.
Since I'm both a creative writer and an artist, I've noticed that a lot of bad advice can kinda be transcribed from one to the other and fall apart.
"Don't draw cartoons" sounds really silly if you translate it as "Don't write sci-fi" or "Don't write historical". "Copy photos to learn to draw" is actually hilarious when translated as "Copy books to learn to write." As for writing translated into art, some bad advice that a lot of novice writers fall into is "Make sure every word has meaning", which is like telling someone getting into art to "make sure every line is perfect". It's just unfeasible.
This is unrelated but I somehow managed to characterize and humanize a freaking triangle by simply making him green and giving him a plant obsession
@@JunkstHat3605 I'm genuinely curious, that sounds so sweet! Giving personality to simple designs is so much fun :)
wait, i don't need to make every word have meaning?
@@katiecramton6336exactly! There’s a time and place for love triangles, the word said, dream sequences and all that. A time and place for every writing idea. ‘Never’ is a word that shouldn’t be used for giving advice.
@@ardequerade3155nope. Having a specific word mean something is a thing which can be amazing. Like a character always describing themselves as weird in a negative way before they discover that being weird isn’t bad, then having weird mean something entirely different, something positive but you don’t need to spend hours looking for a way to make ‘the’ be meaningful. 😂
I think the reason everyone says 'just practice' is because they genuinely don't know how they got there. Because I still don't know how I got here.
I agree! it can be hard to explain how to draw sometimes. I genuinely don't know how I got where I am in art, it just came with practice, so unless someone asks something specific that I know the answer to then I'm going to say to just keep practicing.
Yeah
SaMe tbh I just got the same Chris Hart book she has and NoW I DraW ReAlLy GoOd AnImE.
My only advice is to look through multiple sources. To paraphrase Uncle Iroh from avatar, “if you get information from just one place, it grows stale.” The other quote I think of is “Now is the time to ask the big questions. Who are you and what do you want in life?” Or in my words, “know the effect you want.”
Basically I learned via the internet more specifically Instagram. I used to redraw (but not post) a lot of fan art and eventually I guess I learned how to draw based on what I was seeing though I got a lot of anatomically incorrect drawings from it. Then I looked up IN DEPTH tutorials on Instagram, not the “don’t do this” ones but ones that actually have 3+ images. Then I just kept drawing every day and looking at tutorials and I don’t think I’m good enough yet but I’m going to get to where I want to be one day.
(Also still apologizing for a comment I made when I was younger and didn’t understand why lavender towne always drew bangs. Now I only draw bangs too.)
“Practice with purpose”
“Saying to just practice is bad advice”
*_My life is a lie._*
IKR-
I was like... *”𝘞𝘦𝘭𝘭 𝘧𝘶𝘤𝘬-“*
I never ask help 👁👄👁
Me to 😨😯
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Also, My weeb a** just looked at your name and laughed so thanks. Avocado toast is the best.
big mood ;-;
I really want that plushie tho.
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Drawing Maniac not everyone
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I remember my art instructor (I was attending optional art classes) telling my parents that I should stop watching cartoons because my art is cartoony and I should draw realism. The problem was, I was trying SO HARD to do realism and it never was realistic enough. I was looking at other people's art and thinking "They are so great and realistic... And mine look like a kid's drawing...". Even my grandpa critisized me for my cartoon style and didn't like anything that wasn't realistic. I only recently learned that drawing cartoons is not a bad thing. So. Many. Years. Wasted. Now I'm good at neither cartoons nor realism and I have to start all over again... And to make matters worse, this instructor is STILL teaching this class. I feel so bad for those kids...
that remebers me on my music teacher, who wasn't even my art teacher. he just saw a picture I drew alone from memory(yeahr I know I shouldn't draw from memory because it makes the proportions weird or whatever but at this time I thought I had to draw everything without references because I thought the pictures wouldn't be my own if i did) and then he told me my manga-ish style wouldn't be Art and I should learn to draw realistic because thats what a "real" artist would do and then he said my little pictures would be nothing more than a paintbook drawing for kids. He was a great music teacher but maybe he shouldn't give out art advices. Was a really bad time for me because I saw him as a role model because I really liked his music lessons... but luckyly I didn't stop drawing and sketching and I think I'm at least okay at art now.
11:12
"Stop drawing fanart"
Fanartist from every Fandoms: So anyway, I started blasting.
Underrated😭😭😭
@@braininmeatsuit1207 Yeah.....
@@braininmeatsuit1207 hole up ✋ what?
@@Mar-hq9bm I kind of stay in one community, aka, Pokémon. Not a fan of the show though, too uh.. childish? Generations, Twilight Wings, the Manga for the games and the games are fine with me though. Come to think of it I don't have many arts i've recently finished, only ones i've started. I mean, I listen to Porter Robinson in addition to Pokémon soundtracks but haven't attempted to draw anything for it.
Sorry for the long text, I tend to type a lot.
Me whos constantly drawing C.C., animatronics, and eggs benidict/michael aftons from fnaf:
.w.
"Don't draw fanart"
*Me who taught myself to draw by repeated drawing Mulan when I was five* whelp
*me who can only draw dragons and pokemon* welp
I was drawing Rapunzel and Mlp OCs.
me who can only draw anime dream and GeorgeNotFound lmao
also who just tells someone to stop drawing for something they love or enjoy?
Me who has a bedroom wall covered in copied fanart: *coughs in hidden*
Interesting take on switching from realism to stylization. I had never thought of how realism doesn’t always easily transition to stylization
yeah if you stick to strict rules for so long it becomes hard to break them
Whenever my little brother says, “ How did you do that?!” , we sit down together and I show him step by step how to do it. He’s actually pretty good when he puts his mind to it. ✏️ 😊 💖
That's pretty wholesome. Thanks for sharing that!
That is so wholesome , good for you! Stay like that 👍🏼💕
thats adorable🥺💖
ежик you’re the best sibling 👌👏
Key Fire Gamez thank you so much! That means a lot,
Bruh low key tiktok artists be like:
hOw tO dRaW!
first add a sketch!
then line it out!
add details!
color!
nOw yOuRe dOnE!
BRUH.
Yeah I would never learn that by that shit
SERIOUSLY
THEY JUST COMPRESS 8 HOURS OF WORK INTO 5 MINUTES AND SLAP THE WORD *EASY* ON IT
Well those are actual steps to any drawing. That doesnt make it an easy process though.
Damn
Friendly reminder that no artists are required to teach anybody how to draw that should be reserved for people who are specifically in school or have certificates to teach you how to draw or maybe they just actually want teach you how to draw. But you should never expect tik tok artists who literally only have a minute to show their process to teach you how to draw they're gonna be like yeah sketch what you want to draw and then if you want line it and then if you want color it but art is subjective and you have to learn how to do it on your own or go to actual sources of education. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
Yo here’s an art tip from me:
Just draw, like, actually just sit down and draw. You wanna draw cartoons? Draw some cartoons! You wanna do realism? Go find some pictures to draw from! It doesn’t matter if you’re good, all that matters is that it was fun!
Edit: the ‘learn the rules before you break them’ rule works both ways and now I can’t do realistic stuff help
Pareidolia not saying you can’t use references or anything, but like, what I’m saying is that you can draw whatever
Cheezit Police Oof I have the opposite problem lol
Yeah... I agree,
But when I come to this I need to wait 5 minutes with a white paper under my nose
also I should fix the eyes of my pfp, they have something really wrong. Maybe I should sit and fix it
Cheezit Police tbh the only advice I can give is look at others sytlized art (Instagram and deviantart are great places to look) and try to pick up things you’d like to see in your own new style (also try not to focus on making something super unique and fresh immediately, it takes a while to make something completely your own). Also try to exaggerate features, mix things up and try new things you haven’t tried before and don’t be afraid to make “non aesthetic art” because atm you want to focus on breaking free from the real worlds rules and find out what you like and what works for you. I hope this helps and doesn’t make you even more confused hahah
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This is always what your heart tells you, like I really like to do lines as shadows so I do it :^
But the poem at first got me very confused
There’s also this one thing that caused me to improve:
I Took a long break from drawing and when I returned I improved a lot, this may not work with other people but just wanted to share this ^^
yeah, sometimes your art gets worse because your overworking yourself.a break is important once in a while c:
Yeah, for some reason I didn’t draw for like 3 months and then a week ago made myself draw again, and damn the proportions were great it didn’t make any sense :|
Same happened 2 me
Saaaame. I wasn’t liking anything I was making, so I stepped away for a while. Then, after getting more into stories and writing, I tried designing a character from something I was planning. It didn’t turn out good in comparison to my more recent art, and definitely not in comparison to actual artists, but it was a major improvement.
This is great advice! I was in desperate need of a break from drawing, and doing so let ideas and motivation flow to me. To anyone reading this, even if it’s a day or so, take a break :)
the only times I tell people to "just practice" is when they give me nothing to go off of, like so many people at school ask me "how did you get so good?" or "I wish I could draw like that" or "I can only draw stick figures :(" and I ask them "Well what do you want to draw" or "What do you need to improve?" and they just stare at me because they expect me to give them a full drawing workshop right then and there so I just say "Just practice" because they don't tell me what they need
Before I started trying to animate I was trash are drawing so animation helps you find your style (or already it helped me)
I just ask them to show me their art, because sometimes it's easy to see what they're struggling with. If that fails, back up and teach them what you take most pride in. Like, if you take pride in your hands and poses, help them improve at that
when someone asks how I got so good I always say 'well I put in a lot of time and practice'. This is because I don't know how to explain all the steps I took. I'm still not far in my art journey!
Thanks for being that person who helps other because if it weren't for my friend i wouldn't have my style right now ^^
The only reason I ever said “practice” is cause it was always the snobby kids who’d try to steal my sketchbook or be right over my shoulder while drawing, it got them to leave
Misleading advice is like practicing a song for hours and hours with the wrong chords.
And dawing without knowing the fundamentals is like solving a math problem without knowing the formula.
Benedict Exactly
So what your saying is if i guess ill probably get a B 👀
Its a joke btw, I hardly ever knew what was happening in math and i still got a b in there lol
I only got all As in math without ever learning the formulas. I always did what seemed right and made sense.
@@HickaruFire My teacher made it 3x harder then necessary, i used to get As not no more lol
I guess so, but I don't think art requires as much of an understanding as maths does, in the way that you can freestyle it and it can turn out fine, since you're going for what looks right. You can't really do that with maths, and need to drill certain ways of doing things to get a particular result.
To the teachers who insist on pressuring their students into doing good: STOP. You're not helping them, you're potentially scaring them out of what they wanted to improve. There's too many stories about something someone loved doing and wanted to learn more to improve, and a bad, mean teacher/tutor made them ending up hating what they once loved doing. Hell, why are you a teacher in the first place if you treat people like that? To me, good teachers not only care about their students' success, but they also care about their _feelings_ too. There's a major reason why most people prefer the nice, but firm teacher who clearly cares over the harsh, nasty teacher who insists their way or the highway that doesn't give a shit about their students otherwise.
Tangent over.
All of my friends took art gcse. 2 of them have drawn in the last month. The pressure traumatised people and they hate drawing now. I'm so glad I got into art late so I didn't take art gcse.
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My parents are like this to me but *THIS IS FACTS*
And that's why my elementary school art teacher was awesome. She still made us do the "professional" stuff, but she didn't scream at the entire 3rd grade class because I drew a chibi
My year 2 teacher and an art teacher I never even had are some of the best people for me for these reasons. My year 2 supported me and taught me how to draw a face, how to colour in and use methods such as glueing fabrics and painting. The other teacher saw what I was doing and supported me, gave me encouragement and advice. This is also the reason I didn't choose art. I was scared to draw how I wanted in class and the one time I did, the teacher never spoke to me again. I thought I was going to fail because I drew Madoka in class for a book cover
I’ll always say “practice with a purpose” instead of “just practice”. Understanding what you need to improve is the first step of improvement, in every aspect of life and especially art :)
about the 'Learn the rules before you brake them': Personally, I do stand by this saying. I am not a person that draws realistic stuff or anything. My style is more anime and sometimes chibi. I would never tell someone to first be amazing at realisism before trying out a cartoonish artstyle, but you still have to know at least the basics. I've seen beginner artist that go like ''oH iTs jUsT mY sTylE'' so often, but you can usually tell when the person just can't really draw yet. Does Steven Universe look realistic? No, but you can see that it's stylized. I just hate that so many people use the ''this is my art style'' as an excuse to not improve.
Honestly this is 100% true. No matter what art style you have, you need to learn some form of “the basics”. Abstract? Color theory. Backgrounds? Lighting and perspective. People? Proportions and anatomy.
Not learning them will lead to things looking out of place. One of the biggest fixes to same face syndrome is learning proportions/anatomy. If you want to broaden your horizons or create drawings with interesting moods you should learn how lights reflect off of certain things and angles. Character designers need to learn the colors that go together and the ones that don’t.
A writer should have a decent grasp on pacing, and a game developer should have a decent grasp on coding. Artists are no different.
YESSSSSSSSSS it’s such a cop out!
You _might_ want to replace that last "actually" with "not"?
I'm not entirely sure if I'm reading your comment wrong, or if you made a small mistake, but I think it might be the latter.
Ikr!!
Like, you don't need to be great at realism, or posing, or lighting, you just need to know some of the basic stuff. Like knowing how to add shading based on where your light source is, and that when something is closed to the front it's bigger than the stuff behind it.
I'd say just learn some basic info, nothing crazy, and you don't need to be perfect at it, you don't even need to be that good. Then work on stylization and figuring out what you do and don't like.
Edit: I'm not claiming that you need to do any realism at all. I'm just saying that there's helpful info that you should know about.
I disagree with doing just realism until you've mastered it. If you don't want to do realism, don't! Just look up some tutorials and guides talking about simple things like posing, shading, and color choice
a better piece of advice other than “practice” is to practice but with references and observing artists that you admire and you think is close to what you want to do. no “art style” is completely original its made out of every artists style youve been exposed to mixed together to make a new one! nothing is ever completely original
Yes! When people ask me for advice i tell them to find artstyles they admire and try to implement what they like about them into their style.
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This is really good advice I will use this when people ask me how to help with art and how to get better
@@snailoo53 Hey dad I'm dad, I'm dad
Dad did you get the milk
I find it hilarious when people say fanart isn't real art when most classical art is fanart of the Bible
^this
It’s just hypocrisy when teachers say fan art isn’t real art but they love classical art of the Bible. Isn’t that ironic?
YES O. M. G.
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You're right. Also Dante's Divine Comedy is just a self-insert fanfic.
Yess
HOT TAKE OF THE YEAR.
Reminds me when I was in ceramics and we were making jugs with faces. Naturally, I wanted to do mine to look like Jughead from Archie (so it would be Jughead the Jug Head). But when I showed my art teacher my design, she docked points for creativity and told me that Fanart wasn't original 🙃
My art teacher always tells me that I shouldn’t do fan art because it isn’t real art, and that I will never improve if I’m just doing fan art. Fan art is the reason that I am good at art now, it helped me with proportions, shading, coloring, it is real art
The “stop drawing fanart” hit me hard even if you were saying the opposite-
I've got that too many times for all the vocaloid art I do for fun and as a stress relief
I've ended up hurting my back for sitting and drawing for 5-7 hours straight because I just like to
Says Gacha profile pic.
Rotmg Troller Fan Just because someone plays a game it doesn’t mean that they’re bad at drawing stop making rude assumptions about people for no reason
I actually improved my art by drawing fanart, it made me want to draw more and I started doing more poses through drawing other characters
@@AphoticGoblin Is this really people hating on someone because THEY USE AN APP
"Before stylizing anything, you must learn the rules."
Me who has been drawing since 3rd grade: *"I didn't know there were rules in the first place."*
@@dumb_w4t3rm3l0n I relate to this on a way more personal level then I should (even the being 4 thing)
same, im like 13, and in art class we're focusing on realism, like still life and stuff. actually, i draw a more cartoony style usually, but when i school ive found using my cartoony methods help me with realism
same like i knew how to draw since well since i had a pencil and paper and scribbled that's drawing since when here there rules to drawing??? like bro its nonyabisness
So do I have to follow the rules or….? I’m so confused, I do a sort of cartoony style of art but still is my style. I never knew there were rules until now.
The thing is though, I did the exact opposite. I was drawing anime since I was really young and then when I finally started learning about drawing portraits the knowledge I already had helped me get good at realism too.
The “stop drawing _________” is what made me quit and practically lose all of my talent because I just wasn’t having fun with it anymore from what they said. They made me genuinely believe everything I drew was bad and I couldn’t do it because ____ and ____ reasons. Now I literally don’t draw like I used to and I miss the way I drew
same though i haven't completely given up drawing im starting to hate the way i draw because "reasons" that ppl say and i sometimes wanna quit but i dont want to lose it either
Reading that made me really sad noooo.
I don’t understand how people can be so fluffing judgy ):<
No art is bad just because someone else draws more realistic or understands more rules.
Drawings are pictures of your emotions, thoughts, wishes and dreams, they are your insides. And bringing these things to paper or whatever takes alot of guts. Feelings are not clear things like numbers. You have to learn to express them the way they are. Nobody should have the audacity to tell YOU how your brain magic works. Not everyone dreams in realistic and straight lines. Not everyone has logic dreams you can judge by metrics. If your art is cartoony or bubbly, then it is because you are. If these people want to make rules about how to do something they should go elsewhere because in art there are only guidelines and preferences.
Fluff them. ):<
I feel really sorry that you guys stopped drawing because of that buttholes. I bet you all did great works with lots of love in them.
I know how pressured one can feel with all these people making weird rules and judging and I‘m also constantly stressing myself about it. But honestly, drawing makes the most fun when you don‘t care about this things. Just like when we all started.
I hope one day you can find your love for it again and smash your insides into that drawing :)
Maybe I‘m too emotional about this, but just reading how people stopped because of this just makes me really really upset.
The "stop drawing ____" thing is what made me stop drawing cats lol. I only recently started again
Same..I was told to stop drawing anime and I wouldn't amount to anything and I am a failure. None of my art was good apparently...I still draw but it's no longer fun. I want to draw webtoons though and I found this girl and she's helpful
The "Don't draw [blank] advice is particularly interesting to me. When I was in art liceum my painting teacher asked us all to bring in images we liked in particular from stuff we'd like to achieve ourselves. I brought a bunch of anime-inspired (Kidchan at the time was a favourite) art and each of us would get to go to the computer room with our flash key to show him. The other ones got on with their assignment in the main class.
He asked me a bunch of questions such as "Do you like the line quality in particular? Would you like to push the colours this much or do you like that they're soft?" and then the next lesson he brought each of us a list of suggestions for classic stuff we could study and possibly do assignments from. I really liked mine: they were an interesting mix of impressionist paintings, Asian (maybe Chinese? It's been a while) ink works and some contemporary, more graphic artworks. I really think it was really useful and it's a good compromise between just letting me reference just what I already liked and just confining me to classic stuff.
"stop drawing cartoons!!" as if Disney isn't sitting right there making a f*ckton off of cartoons
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My mom is an incredible artist and she has a great grasp on anatomy, perspective, and colour theory. I love to draw but my skills in those said categories don't match my mothers by a long shot, I specialize more in character design and cartoon drawings. Even though my mom can draw more realistically, her stylized drawings are well... less than pleasing to the eye to say the least. And it's not just a style difference, she struggles in her art where I succeed in it, and vice versa. Thank you LavenderTowne for bringing up that realism and stylization are different skills and you cant just learn anatomy and be good at stylization. I have always felt put down by others because they see hyperrealistic drawings as a higher more skillful art form, when that really isn't the truth. It's all about what you decide to study and put your time into
Hypoxia True
Yes yes yes and yes
Oh, same for me! My mom does watercolor paintings of interesting looking buildings around and people without being super precise, whole I do primarily stylized digital art. I struggle with realism and she has trouble with just creating a drawing from her head, so it’s really interesting how different our art is
Imagine having artist as your parent's... im not jealous... im jealous ..
Same for me, my mom draws so realistic and I draw like a 6 year old
i dont think “learn the rules before you break them” refers to learning how to draw in a completely realistic style before you draw cartoons/anime/etc. I think it means learn the super essentials and basics before you do that. Cartoons and anime art still need to be at least somewhat grounded in reality to look good.
Agreed. And it can also apply to composition and use of colour.
yup because ''wrong'' proportions can add to a cartoon style but can also make a catoon style look bad and botched
It usually depends on who actually tells you that.
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I thought that too. I watch a youtuber called Solar Sands who says this phrase a lot and I say, he’s saying that the anatomy and basic skills must be used and studied first before immediately drawing your own style since it improves the balance and realism in your art and make it pleasing to the eye.
I find posing characters extremely hard without reference. I feel like learning anatomy and how things move woukd definitely help with this problem.
Yeah, on stylisation, I totally agree. I have a friend who can do incredible life drawing, like photo-realistic. I used to be super jealous of her because my art was always so cartoony by comparison. But one day she told me she was actually jealous of my art because it had such a unique style and confessed she really struggled at doing that kind of stylised art.
You know, side note: after hearing the “just practice” I wanna bring up how upsetting it was that I was talking with my grandma and she was telling me she wished she had some sort of talent and I mentioned how she is a really good cook but she brushed it off bringing up my art. She started saying how I had already found my art because I could draw nicely and I told her anyone could. It’s a skill just like every other. Yes it’s hard but if you start right and keep trying then you could end up drawing just as good or better. And I explained that I had spent hours practicing, so much work had been put into just one piece of art. And all she had to say was “that’s a nice way to make me feel better, but you were b o r n with that talent” and I swear- that just- I got so upset.
Yeah, I feel that's were the "just practice" answer originally came from: the old misconception that talented artists were naturally born gifted like that, instead of their artwork being the result of years of practice. I think a lot of gen x / millenials artists were pissed off lol.
I agree, it totally invalidates all the hard work you did to get to that point.
OMG same! My Grandma literally believes artists are born not created, and the same with any other skills. I tried explaining that just because parents are good at something, that does not mean the whole family is unless they take time to dedicate to learning and bettering that skill. It is like driving, haha, you do not just wake up one day knowing how to drive.
Absolutely! When I tell people "just practice" it's usually directed at people who try to convince me my decade of hard work is something not achievable and that I was just *born* able to draw like.. no?? Anybody could learn it with practice. That's why I say it, because I'm tired of being told I have a "gift" not that I put in years of hard work and tears into my work!
This comment. I've met so many artists who have told new or beginning artists that if they don't have the talent to figure it out themselves then they just aren't good at it and should do something else. (I also kind of took offense to the whole idea that the more experienced artist needed to figure out what the problem was an explain it when that's not fair to someone you're not paying and who didn't offer.)
It shouldn’t be practice harder, it’s practice smarter. Whoever came up with that “just practice” was on the right track but just didn’t get there
On the right track but took a wrong turn
Quick Advice:
- Listen to advice or critic given to you by other people! Even if they aren't artists!
- Learn to differentiate, "advice" and, "critic" from, "hate" and, "trolls".
Here's the deal, some artists tend to think that as long as they can see what's wrong with their work, they don't need to listen to other people. And that's just wrong. Some people are bias towards their art that they don't see where they can improve - hence why we should ask for critic from other artists. Though asking non-artists seem wrong, it can actually do good. They won't be able to give you constructive criticism per se but they'll be able to see your work from a non bias and non technical point of view. Majority of the people who will see your art probably aren't artists anyways so people who don't necessarily draw might be able to help you see where you can better yourself. Of course, asking critics from artists would be a lot better drawing wise because they'll be able to voice and even explain something in your art that you can work on in detail.
You should also learn the difference between comments like, "This is bad" vs "The arm looks wrong/wobbly". The first statement was clearly meant with malice and bad intention whilst the second one was more helpful and critical rather than demeaning. Sure, the second statement might not have been completely detailed but unless it's an artistic choice - you should probably ask for more clarification from the person to better yourself. As for the first comment, you should ignore it because its not helpful and it will only lower your self esteem if you linger on it for too long.
These are pretty well known advices around the art community but I just wanted to retell. I wouldn't call myself a great artist since I'm only a teenager but I hope people still listen. Have a nice day!
You should have more likes this is extremely helpful!
I disagree with "listen to non-artists advice" from personal experience non-artist advice is usually flat and and will make u feel as if something is wrong but its just because ur drawing is not 100% realistic.
@@lamplol7120 True but it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to listen - especially if they are people like your family or your friends. They will only be trying to lift you up and it wouldn't hurt to see if their opinions or advice are valid to where you want to go.
You can ask them about wether your art style looks cartoony - assuming that your going into that direction. And their insight would still be helpful either way.
As I said, they probably wouldn't be able to give out constructive criticism but they would still be able to give you another view on your art. Wether you take it to heart or not if of course up to you. ^^
(Artists are still better advice tellers for drawings though. I won't disagree that you should probably take their critics more into mind than other people who haven't had experience.)
@@melissaandzoeram883 my sis is an artist and she showed a simple drawing - not in cartoony style - of harry potter to a friend how told her that they thought it looked like the devil -not in a mean way- so my sis added a lot of details and the drawing got worst, so I think that non-artist advice is useless most of the time and harmful sometimes so I think ignoring them is better.
@@lamplol7120 I will admit, that's bad advice from your sister's friend so I'll agree - don't listen if your friends say that your drawings looked like it came from the devil XD
(I hope your sister is doing great with her art!)
Thank you *so much* for talking about "Just practice!" advice. I had a phase in middle/high school where I loved to draw, but even I knew everything I did Was Not Very Good, so I turned to my friends who were good at art and they *always* told me "oh just practice, you'll get there!" but I never did because I didn't *know* where to go next, how to get my lineart smoothed out or how to understand shading or anatomy; I needed someone to help me through it all and no one would even give me a moment of guidance. I gave up on my art after that, and haven't bothered with it for a very long time now. Watching your videos recently has made me want to start again, though... Maybe I will one day!
Some art advice I think is good: “experiment with different styles and see what you like most” or something
I've been doing that and it's rlly helpful
Yeah
Yeah my friend say if you cant find styles try drawing your character/you in different cartoons like Star vz forces of evil or gravity falls
I never thought of that but I'm gonna try it. thanks
that's how I found my style.
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Don't we all!!! >∆
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"Just practice is not a good art tip."
You see, if this was coming from a less popular youtuber, they would've been already shunned for speaking their mind.
I say practice because I'm not very good at talking to people
You’re so right Alpha-Pathetic Tm which is so sad 😞
@@zackarydoesgacha9510 same
In my opinion, it is quite a good art tip, but it’s an extremely obvious and a vague one
Mostly if someone says "How do you draw??" I think thats pretty vague, so the closest I can tell them is to practice. Because I don't know how to just answer that.
If someone says "How did you do the ___?" I actually tell them how I did it because they asked for something specific and I knew what they wanted to know so I give them the answer to it
I took the “draw every day” and “just practice” advice and oh my goodness I had such bad burnout and such bad habits that I’m still trying to reverse.
Last one DOESNT make any sense for advice, because if that type of style was so bad, why is it simultaneously extremely popular? It’s almost like? People find anime aesthetics pleasing to the eye? It’s not posh classical art, sure, but it’s art too! People who parade that around should look on webcomic sites and see the staggering numbers those comics get, there’s a clear love and support for an anime style... if anything? Anime work is probably a good plan for commercial work? I don’t aspire to be an artist as my main job, but I do think it’d be really great to make a webcomic someday with my art skills I’ve developed and will continue to. Surely, there will be an audience for my work somewhere if they like the story enough. Those snobby people never have to view it, because an art gallery simply isn’t the demographic
Im sure when you get around to it your webtoon will be great, You seem smart.
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I’ve always been confused when people say they don’t like anime like what? Anime is one of the more realistic and technical styles out there. Maybe their faces aren’t very realistic, but the hair? The anatomy? The clothing? All very real and most of the time very fluid. I mean, look at things like Violet Evergarden and Land of the Lustrous THOSE ARE ALL BEAUTIFUL as well as incredibly detailed and people dare say it’s not art
This comment made me want to open up an Anime Art Museum. That would something I'd like to see.
@@sabrexi7228 Actually there are still good *and* bad anime styles, both types of which can entail cartoony or realistic stuff (e.g. Junji Ito vs Sanrio)
Anime isn't really a "style" but rather a sort of descriptor or umbrella term for something that resembles certain japanese animated media (vague, I know, that's the point)
The main reason most art teachers don't like it is that the students who use it usually only focus on trying to make it look like a specific anime style instead of their own
Also, I'm sure you've seen your fair share of horrendous anime as well, whether it be made by company professionals or deviantart amateurs
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Most of the people who ask me, "how did you get so good at drawing?" aren't looking for a real answer, they just want an offhand way of complimenting me so that they'll be excused for snooping over my shoulder while I'm drawing.
Usually that's when I reply with 'practice' since it's an easy answer lol. Sometimes I think they want to know how to draw something but if they get put off by the thought of doing it more than once then I don't think they're that dedicated lol.
The fact that they're copying you is actually the best compliment. Take that one and run with it.
I’m ssssssooooooo glad my middle school art teacher was a cartoon/comic artist that told us to make comics
Lavendertowne: *talks about bad art advice*
Me as an "artist": *realizing all the advice is my advice like* 👁👄👁
Edit: OMG THANK YOU FOR 1K LIKES!!!!
At least you're open-minded enough to recognize your shortcomings. I don't know you but I'm proud of you because so many people just get more stubborn when they realize they're wrong about something. Good job, fellow TH-cam commenter.
@@sweetsour4375 aww thx >w
Whatever. My pencil is still missing :(
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As a cartoonist I can say in confidence that trying to draw realistically makes me wanna cry.
same dude i used to draw semi realism but it was just so annoying so i tried drawing cartoony style and it was so much more fun and expressive
MelikoYT same! It’s way less confining and you don’t have to worry about anatomy and how realistic it is and how close it is to the reference. It’s great. I still do semi-realism occasionally because the practice is still really good for you and can help you improve, but for now I’m gonna stick with mainly cartoonish styles lol.
it gives me so much anxiety- i literally cannot
Ive never tried and never will. My style is a lot different and I know for a fact i woul die inside trying
The mind of a child:I just learned how too make a realistic eye I'm proud of me now I, just have too color
Now its gone cause I colered it ;(
“Why is the head so big? Why are the eyes so big?
“Oh well I’m a cartoonist”
“But it’s not realistic!”
Yeah that’s kinda the point?
I want to think I'm a cartoonist but I know I'm not
@@AmarjitSingh-rz2gi though I'm not a "lanky rubber hose body" sorta artist, I would say I'm a cartoonist
In anime too LIKE STOP IT IM DONE WITH REAL STYLE :(
An art style is something that is different for every person, If one person draws very realistic and the other draws cartoons the two are different, what I’m trying to say is that there’s no wrong art style
my parents entirely
When this video came out two years ago and I was like, 12, I couldn't understand mostly anything in the video, I didn't get what any of the advice had meant. Now, two years LATER, I understand everything. I practiced, I tried to improve, and along the way I learned certain terms and helpful ways to do things, tips. Now that I return to this video it's much easier to draw. Thank you LavenderTowne for all of your amazing videos, they're very helpful and I've learnt a lot from them.
I completely agree. I’m my high school drawing class, we were pretty much only allowed to draw realistic (except for maybe Inktober) and it ruined my art. I still draw, but I can’t do as expressive poses or anything. It really makes me sad. Though, in a weird way, knowing that I’m not the only one that’s had this problem makes me feel a bit better. Like I’m not alone. I mean, I’ve been drawing cartoons since I was a little kid, comics and stuff, but after that drawing class of learning “the right way” to draw, my art just doesn’t look as fun.
This is one of the reasons I'm kinda don't want to join my art class at high school. It does more realistic art (from what I've seen) and I have more of an anime art style.
I just figured that out today when I watched this video 😕 I can't do my old style anymore, I'm always too focused on realistic proportions and muscles. *glass shattered*
I get what you guys mean. I'm dealing with that myself.
Another habit is getting so afraid of not being perfect, to the point of not drawing certain body parts at all, like no ears, nose, hands, legs and/or feet, both eyes and etc. I'm still working on that myself, mostly the legs and arms. I've gotten better with help and extra references though, so don't quit guys!
Well high school art classes are a joke and technically they’re there to teach you fundamentals of art which a lot of them want anatomically correct pieces. It’s not about teaching you to have “fun” art, it’s teaching you how to correct things and thinking of anatomical correctness. Of course once you know how to do anatomy and the fundamentals, then you can learn to exaggerate those features to fit “your style”
Similar to my story, but I started drawing cartoony anime style. But I then went to a drawing class to learn how to draw realistic portraits. It doesn't effect me much, since I was still drawing in my style while going to those classes. Now I'm drawing in my style since it's what I'm comfortable with, but I can still draw realism. I'm glad that I still continued to draw in my style while learning realism.
This was in high school but I am so scared of showing my drawings to anyone because of what happen I mostly keep them to myself. From a young age, I loved to draw, mainly the PowerPuff Girls were my obsession. Classmates would ask me to draw them etc. But then we had the art class. I tried my hardest when we learned realism. It wasn't amazing it look semi-realistic at least. But for two years no matter how hard I tried the teacher used my art as an example of "bad art". I remember a specific day where she picked up my drawing and to the entire class said: "that this wasn't how the assignment is supposed to look like use this an example of what not to do". At the end of my years in art class, I did get some drawings she liked. Mainly my perspective drawings. That was the only drawings she ever praised me for. And then she had the audacity to ask my mom "why aren't they more confident in themselves?". I wonder why.
Long story short. If you ever see my drawings because I showed it you congrats. I trust you enough that you won't make fun of my bad drawings.
Edit: The most responses I have ever gotten. For anyone else reading this in the future just know that I truly appreciate all of the kind words! And if you are struggling with confidence in your art like me just know that even though I don't have the courage to show it to people often our art is not horrible in any shape or form after all art is subjective. Let's all work together on improving both skills-wise and confidence in showcasing our art. Have a wonderful day.
I’m literally never gonna show anyone, even my friends, my drawings. Because if I like my art, it’s still probably trash.
Well, honey, your teacher was (and might still be) trash, publicly humiliating students never made them better at anything. I hope you'll get self confident with your art now. So @ all of yall, you doing great, keep going
That's downright traumatizing. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I hope you will feel safe to continue pursuing art and to show them to people. You deserve to have true fans.
@@purplekitti5784 I find it unfortunate that the things I remember from my childhood are only things like the one I mentioned above. At this point in my life, at 19, I don't think I will ever be fully comfortable to post things online. Although I sincerely appreciate the fact you think I deserve fans even though I don't see why I they would like my art today I hope tomorrow will be a better day for me.
@Kaiya Flores Faircloth You are right in saying that teacher had no right. I think she honestly forgot she wasn't teaching university students like she used to but rather 12-13-year-olds. Still, I am glad you think my art is amazing at least one of us does.
If anyone ever asks for art tips from me, I'm going to say:
"learn about proportions. Trust me, you will be thankful."
if anyone were to ask me for any tips, (digital artists) I'd say:
learn about your drawing program/app and find a brush that will work for you, trust me, i used to use the basic own and it made my art look less put together
If someone asked me for help drawing, the conversation would probably go 1/3 ways. Beginning with: “what’s the issue”
New artist: “I’m trying to learn anatomy”
Me: “look up references on the human body, and then sketch that with you style thrown in. It helps to learn proportions.”
Scenario 2:
Newbie artist: “I’m trying to learn faces”
Me: “realistic, or anime?”
Newbie artist: (“anime”/“realism”)
Me: (for anime) “look up the faces out of anime characters you like. Try to notice a recurring pattern. Or just trace a face. If you noticed the recurring pattern, then draw it in your style.”
(Realism) “get a mirror or photo and learn the proportions of your face or theirs. Shading is key”
Aspiring newcomer to the art community: “I’m trying to learn hands”
Me: “get references or learn with your hand in the position of your subject”
(These are also tips for real aspiring artists)
Last tip that applies to all three: “SHADE. it’s what makes your peace look 3D. This only applies to anyone trying to draw cartoon or realistic.
@@odd2b Yeah, this one right here helped me. Testing different brushes are helpful so you can know which brushes suit more for you :D
THANK YOU SO MUCH!! ive been looking everywhere for something like this!
On the digital brushes thing, try making your own custom brushes! If you can’t find a brush that’s the one you want, take the closest thing to it and modify!
9:36 Awww, HECK YEAH, LavenderTowne! Thank you SO MUCH for saying it's ok to draw fanart styles, and for straight-out mentioning Adventure Time and Steven Universe. Not only because I hardcore stan those shows and I'll continue to stan them for as long as I live, but also because drawing fanart of them and/or drawing in their styles is helping me grow as an artist.
Doing that helps me push myself into drawing more facial expressions that I didn't try before when I did photorealistic pencil portraits and landscapes. Practicing my character design in their styles helps me learn more of the basics that I wasn't allowed to learn before by my strict teachers. I used to do a LOT of photorealistic drawings and didn't have as much fun doing them as I am now with my cartoony style. That's why I use the pointers you kindly give us. Not to say I copy your style, I just use some of the tips you say helped you develop the style you're comfortable with, to develop my own tastes.
On top of that, THANK YOU for validating artists like myself, who enjoy doing cartoony or stylized drawings. I was often made to feel that NOT doing realism made me less of an artist or meant I have less skill than someone who does realism. Even now, when people ask me what I draw, I almost feel ashamed to show them my OCs, costume designs, fanart (always wholesome and cute, never NSFW... I don't think I'll ever do NSFW) because I'm afraid it'll underwhelm them. And then I remind myself that as long as I love what I'm drawing and have fun drawing it, it's ok!
The problem with "just practice" is that you're not specifying that practicing includes learning anatomy, color theory, linework, etc and if you just keep drawing without studying any of those your art will barely improve
Exactly. And learning anatomy is the hard part and -I believe- is most of the practice that you should do especially if you’re a beginner . Then again this is only from my point of view but saying just “just practice” is only to keep your hand’s memory muscles working other than improving your art WHILE keeping your hand consistent and loose. But just like i said in the beginning learning anatomy comes first and while doing so (like experimenting poses and drawing references) you’ll learn to be loose and consistent. -sorry if I bore you with my talk and please excuse my mistakes english is not my first language ^^-
I believe that finding out what "practice" entails is the job of the asker. They want to get better, they should just google on how to practice effectively and what to practice. There is so much information out there. If the asker wants to know sth specific that "the pro" seem to know, than ask that.
Oh dear.. i did not know that the dash does that to words here on youtube tho 😂 please ignore that..
YF i agree 👍🏼
Facts.
Someone once told me:
You're not japanese, stop drawing anime.
So I just told them, you're not Italian stop eating pizza
And they just looked at me and then left
That is the best thing ive heard all day. Thank you for making me laugh
Np ^^
B R U H LOL
That's the best thing ever. I've never been told that but if I ever am I'm going to say that.
Omg that's amazing
I realise that nobody is going to read this, but you can “learn the rules” in a cartoon style as well as a realistic style. Like, sure, realism is incredibly helpful to do occasionally, but with, for example, anatomy, I personally found it easier to draw it realistically *after* I figured it out in a cartoon style. That is just my personal opinion, and it might be completely different to other people as I have a lot of differences in learning patterns, but knowing how to draw cartoons (which just to clarify, I shade my cartoons in a pretty realistic way) made it easier to draw realism.
Yeah I totally agree! I've learnt basic anatomy and proportions from improving my more cartoonish art style so when I try to draw more realistic figures they turn out fairly accurate.
i want to learn anatomy and proportions, but i have no idea how :( like how do i practice anatomy? do i just use a lot of references? i'm literally so lost and i really want my art to be better
@@sparklingsora first I recommend learning some proportions and how things line up, for example small details. ( example: the top of your ears line up with your eyes and the bottom of your ears line up with the bottom of your nose ) You can probably do some research on things like how far your arms go down your body, and (for more realistic drawings) how many heads tall the whole figure should be. Once you have an understanding of where things should go practice drawing some poses, which you can find if you look up ' drawing references ' go to one of the websites, which usually have a lot of pictures. After doing many poses to start to get an idea of how the body moves and could try drawing a pose without a reference or making a pose up yourself. Dont be afraid to use yourself as a reference if you're stuck, maybe just sit in front of a mirror and do some poses yourself. The more you practice the more you will have an understanding of basic anatomy. After that its really up to you what you want to do, and you can always study in more detail like looking at the anatomy of a hand to really be confident and know what you're doing. That's all I have haha and I'm definitely not professional but that's what ive been doing and I have gotten much better at poses.
@@briochelover thank you so much for the advice !! :D i'll try using your tips and see how that turns out haha
BRUH it's as if they think that cartoonists don't have their own set of propertions they abide by on purpose and/or study anatomy, angles, lighting etc thoroughly so that they can have their basic idea on how to make their cartoon drawings look better, like I think my old drawings with no sense of proportions look absolutely hideous even though they were drawn in a cartoon style.
Some advice I have to give is that you should absolutely make fan art.
Learning a skill using both your desire to learn and something you're already passionate about has helped me not only stay motivated, but taken me outside my comfort zone to learn things I've struggled with drawing in the past!
Worse comment on my art ever: “I could never draw as well as you.”
Okay 1: I’m no professional
2: you CAN
There’s two types of people who’ve told me this.
1: The type of people who’ve never drawn since an assignment in kindergarten. Of coarse you can’t, just as I can’t throw a football, heck my hand doesn’t even fit around the ball. I can’t do a summer salt to save my life. It takes just as much practice to draw as it does for your hobby. I know it’s coming from a good place but it comes across as somewhat condescending towards art in general
The second group are beginner artists. I mean hello, YES YOU CAN!! In five years I better see something greater than what I’m drawing now. That mindset will always come, there’s always someone better than you. Get over it. If you keep thinking that than art will become a competition you’ll always lose. It’s okay to be disheartened when comparing yourself to those more experienced than you, but you’ve got to be able to let that go otherwise you’ll always be dissatisfied with your own art. I’ve often heard you should only compare your art with your own art, and I completely disagree. If you only pay attention to your own work you’ll never improve but you should never let that discourage you. Art is already hard enough, as unrecognized as it is, don’t add fabricated inability add to that, one day you WILL draw as well and then even better. I sure hope I do the same. As great as whatever you’re complementing may seem, I better improve. It’s okay to use other’s work as inspiration or as a reference to where you want to go, but you need to be able to stand on your own art style. No two artists are the same so FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING GOOD AND GREAT IN THIS WORLD DON’T YOU DARE COMPARE MY ART WITH YOURS!
Yeah, this exact comment really grinds my gears for the same reasoning as you. It also makes me feel weirdly guilty for being good at drawing, and it's like they're guilt tripping me for being at the level I am instead of worse, even if that's not the intention behind the comment.
Reddit tea ~ Don't give up! I don't draw once in a while, but I still do draw. It's okay to suck, you WILL improve. I believe you can 💖 Just have hope and you'll slowly improve!
@Reddit tea might be because you practise wrong, it's good to take a break, when you think you are ready and look back at your art you will see where did you go wrong
For me watching "over paint" video helps me a lot cus it teach me how to fix my problem, you just need to know where to fix first
(Hope you can understand, still learning english)
@Reddit tea You probably just need the right teacher, medium to work in, and motivation.
My art teacher had a student once that said to stop her if she's just too bad.
She hadn't stopped ever. My mom thinks she's bad but she'd done something with a group that turned out quite alright.
Everyone can do it. Like I said, you just have to have the right teacher, and probably the motivation as well. If you _want_ to do it, you can do it. You can try different mediums too. Most people start off with graphite, but sometimes people find other mediums easier to learn first. Just depends on you. :)
@@qold5900 like when someone said "you are already so good you are better than me!"
...you didn't draw for like...ever? Don't want to be mean but it' pretty annoying when people look down on me for trying real hard for "just a drawing" because I'm better than people who pay to get their art assignment done for them
when I was younger and was in the early stages of my art skills I used to love drawing wolves and cats and my little ponies. I wanted to branch out of that and draw humans what gave me the motivation was seeing one of my friends drawing a human. I tried doing it right there and then and she said "you should stick to what you're good at" :/
Yeah that’s definitely not helpful. Going out of your comfort zone will improve your art by a lot. Trust me, I’m speaking from experience.
“you should stick to what your good at” is probably one of the worst things you could say to an artist and i always encourage my friends and myself to expand their comfort zones when it comes to art
Never stick to what you're good at, if you did that you would still be pooping yourself and drinking from a baby bottle.
I could never draw people, I gave up literally decades ago. The other day I suddenly had an inspiration to draw some people and, to my amazement, they weren't half bad.
I always found drawing people to be intimidating because when they look wrong, they look very wrong. The intimidation made me stiff and hesitant and stopped me learning. I guess I've just got less scared.
So yeah, your friend was not helpful. Tune it out if you can.
Well she’s a mean fremd
Thats pretty mean. I think you should step outta your comfort zone. Trust me it works rlly well. I improved my art a lot 🙃🙃🙃🙃
Something I see all the time is
“Never use bases”
And while I don’t think you should stick to bases very long. It’s very ok to use them as they actually can help you get better. They helped me a lot.
And I bet a lot of digital artists started out with bases.
Since traditional art and digital art are way too different mediums, bases helped me become better at digital art and get used to things when I switched from traditional
That being said you shouldn’t use bases too much as it can halt your progress a bit
Yes at first my drawing was like: ⬆️↖️⬆️↖️⬆️and now it is like after using bases: ⬆️⬆️⬆️ I actually use bases in each drawing but I am trying to not use bases anymore.
i dont use bases since i was taught by my parents n myself but yeah, using bases help you understand how those things even work. We should move away from bases later on, but when u draw on bases they give u the sense of how things should work and it will remain in ur memory, but drawing from scratch gives u crooked bases if u just started learning.
I use bases to get me back on my feet if I'm in a really bad art block. Sometimes I'll even trace my own art as a warm up because sometimes the idea of creating something from nothing is enough to make me shut off my screen.
I agree, I like to start with bases when drawing something new (like humans) so that I can already have the form, and I can work on improving one thing at a time (hair, clothing, face)
Am I the only one who doesn’t use bases? It slows me down and doesn’t do anything. Btw I’m talking about my experiences with trying to use bases. I’m not trying to be rude.
as a beginner artist, Yes. learning art can be daunting. there really is SO much to learn. Anatomy, expressions, proportions, lighting, shading, learning how to use the art program of your choice and so much more. But thankfull alot of youtubers including yourself have playlist for beginners that help out alot! eventually i was able to hone down the basics and just study those. Basics for me being anatomy and learning CSP! :)
Oml i find the “just practice” thing so annoying. I draw multiple times every day. I do practice! IS IT SO HARD TO GIVE ME ONE TIP TwT
Try using reference and take inspiration from artist and art styles you like. Start out with simple reference like a side profile or someone looking directly at the camera and try to draw a cartoonfyed or more simple version of that picture, whatever your style is. Watch videos on shading, coloring, plane’s, line art different body types and ages, specific things you have a hard time drawing, that type of thing.
I know you weren’t asking specifically for advice with this comment, but just though I would share^^
Sadly, I am guilty of saying 'just practice.' I tend to do it because I really don't have any rules or specific way i do things, and put on the spot by a beginner who looks up to me I resort to that.
However,there are time where I do give a tip but it normally means more questions or the beginner artist completely disregards what I say.
Hi! For me, what worked best was trying different styles. All the different styles really trained me and taught me how many ways one thing could be portrayed. It also taught me a lot of fundamentals. I would say to find some artists or shows that styleize a lot, and try basically copying that for a bit. Then move on to another. Also, drawing fanart helps if you dont know what to draw. The biggest thing I can reccomend is just to have fun and do what feels right to you, not what other people want out of you. ^^
You where way better than you where last year. That's practice. You won't see the improvement at that point but when you look back you can see the Change
saying just practice wont help them on how to start as a beginner
As a person who has told people in the past "practice" when they asked me how I got good at art, this video made me think-- I just kinda realized that when I said that to them what I really meant to say is don't ever *stop* practicing. Don't ever give up. You will have ups and downs. You will want to quit some days-- keep on pushing. All the successful artists were once just determined kids with a dream & a hatred of drawing hands. X) Thanks to this video I'll probably revise that statement of just 'practice'. This is a really good video and I really agree with the points you made, thank you for the amazing content Lavendertowne :)
Such wise!
Such wow!
I'll never give up! That's my nindo, my ninja way! -Naruto Uzamaki
Hands are literally my worst enemy xD
@@estherpachuau4114 I'm like the one person who has never had any problems with hands Xd
@@literallythrowing3264 wow you're lucky :D
me: ugh my art sucks
some clueless fool: ur a drawer just practice
*a what now*
"You are gonna WHAT my WHAT like a WHAAAT!!" Sorry i remember a comic 😅😧😅
This made me burst out laughing plz help my brothers are looking at me weird
Be right back, turning to a drawer real quick
new rule: all artists now identify as furniture, sexually and in terms of gender
Istg I don't just hold onto random people's clothes and no I won't draw them as a joke no free requests I'm gOiNG TO SNaP-
When it comes to the "Learn the rules before you break them" thing, I feel like there's truth in both sides. On the one hand, drawing from realism and learning the fundamentals of art can teach you valuable skills. On the other hand, JUST doing that before drawinf what you want will kill art as an interest. I belive that it's about balance (like many things in life.) You can still draw cartoons, anime, and similar things, but it's also important to learn the rules to understand WHY these things work the way they do. Doing both can let you sort of see how your skills synergize with each other. I've heard from other art instructors and channels that a good work ethic for art is 80% drawing what you want and 20% practice.
TL:DR of all of this is to do both! Both sides have valid reasons for existing and you can get a lot further from studying multple sides.
I treat the rules as general guidelines. I never actually practiced drawing realistic faces just to learn, but little tips like "the ears are the size of the space between the nose and eyes", "the hand is as big as your face", etc, I treat as things to keep in mind while drawing my own stuff.
The third invisible eye, for example, is a thing I know about but never do because *giant anime eyes* in a *literal circle for a head* so if I did that the math wouldn't math 😂
Artist: just practice ;3
Me, who’s been drawing for 6 years: mhm ok then what
the unus annus swirl ;)
Me who have been drawing since I was born:
*Ok then, keep your secrects.*
@@deluxeedition4639memento mori
Me drawing for years: ok, what do I do?
Professional artist: keep practicing
Same but me 7 years
Normally I tell people to "just practice" as a response to, "Oh why are you so good and I'm so bad, I'll never get to that level, you're lucky you're so talented" yada yada. I hate that mentality so much, because it makes it seem like being a "good artist" is just a lucky coincidence.
Just tell them it takes 10,000 hours to get good at doing anything - and that's how *you* got good at drawing - and that's what *they* need to do in order to get good.
I swear most of these people complaining about being told to "Just practice" are really only looking for shortcuts because they aren't prepared to put the time in.
There are no shortcuts. You have to work at things to get good. That means practice. If you're serious about it you need to get your nose to paper now.
(I’m my opinion) that’s the only time “just practice” is helpful to me
Practice is still important, but beginners need to be led in the right direction on what exactly to practice. Like how I just figured out right now 2 years after college what I want to specialize in (3D Cartoon Character Modeling), but until then, I wasted too much time trying to get good at everything and all styles when I probably would have had a job now if I simply focused on good, easy-to-read character designs and translating such designs to 3D.
The thing is, some people do practice ALL THE TIME, and still don't make much progress. I am that person. I've loved drawing since I was tiny, I carry sketchbooks with me everywhere, and I draw daily. However, I can look at things I did a year apart and see next to no improvement. I use references and study figure drawing books. My mom used to come home to find pages and pages of nothing but hands and feet, because that's what I was struggling the most with.
Eventually I just had to come to the conclusion that I improve much slower than most people do, and try not to get frustrated when I run into someone half my age who's better than I am. I've seen people who improved more in a year than I did in 5 or more, and it's hard not to get demoralized from that. Some people do just have a natural gift for certain things, and some have to work ten times harder to get anywhere.
I feel like if your asking for advice to get better you need to be specific, this is a example "how do you draw anatomy?" Or "how to you piant/shade skin?" Or "how do you draw eyes?".
When you filled in “Stop Drawing Fan Art” that really hit hard. I’ve heard that kind of ‘advice’ for a long time. You’re totally right-if it gets you drawing and creating, it’s worthy art to make. It’s nice to have you in my corner 🥰
Yes!! I draw so much fanart because it helps me gain motivation to work on my series
Ironically i've been told to do more fanarts than original illustrations because no one can relate q w q
The part you shared about being taught to draw via the grid and a reference picture...it struck SUCH a cord with me. I've always said that I can basically make a copy of anything but have always been beyond frustrated that I couldn't create my own content that looked as good a quality. You perfectly articulated it, thank you! This has helped me a lot in knowing what issue I've having and where to start fixing it!
The biggest thing that I hate is basically the last thing you said: People telling others their art has no value. LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE PIECE of art has value! Whether it be because you made a masterpiece, you improved your art skills to make a masterpiece later on, you experimented and learned something new, you made yourself happy by making art or even just got through a tough day by drawing, art is meaningful and should never be called useless or unimportant.
Allso ink paper and lines of kode has value so even ignoring everything you sead it has value but the fine art komunity on the other hand youst pass around money to make it more valuble and exploit the fackt that its imposible to realy know how mutch its worth.
EXACTLYYY and some people I’ve seen even think that if u don’t draw in their style that it’s “bad” or “incorrect” Like WHAT-
I agree with you but to a certain degree. I'm sure you're aware of the ART DEALER SCAMS that inflate prices of garbage "works of art".
Art teachers don’t deserve that title if they can’t believe that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My art is basically something you’d see in a manga. (A fully colored manga) I felt like crap every time my art teacher came by and told me my art was wrong. And to make it worse, I never liked drawing realistically. So, my teacher might as well had just rip my art up and spat on the pile of paper that used to be my art, because that’s what it felt like. It freaking hurt and I’ll probably never go back to art class.
The “just practice” one is really important. I’ve searched on the web tons for ways to learn anatomy for art, and almost every time 1 of the 3 art tips they have is “just practice”. That doesn’t help at all.
A really good art tip that actually helped me is to break somebodies anatomy down to the most basic shapes possible, then to keep noticing little details in that anatomy, (like how the torso feels like it’s made up of two parts; one with the chest and the other with the stomach, and how there is a slight bend blending those two parts together), and keep using those little details to make the basic shapes more and more complex until you eventually have a full human shape!
I was taught anatomy by the “mannequin” layout. I never knew how much that would help me later on
@@leah8894 what is that?
@@CIouthe its where u get a manaquin they are made for drawers they let u draw the pose the maquin poses
@@sukisukughost drawers lmao xD. But thank you!
@@CIouthe lol np
When I see other people talking about their art teacher, I realize mine is cool af.
She's encouraging students to try new techniques like digital art,
She gives very vague subject so we can do something that we really like
We're free to get inspiration from anime or manga
She gives very funny subjects
And there was that work she gave to 6 graders where they had to make the Joconde, but Japanese style.
A real teacher who understands education for what it ought to be. ;)
I’m going to art school in a bit and I just hope I get a teacher like this
@@Shortcake0x what teacher did you get?
@@Shortcake0x what kind of teacher(s) did you get??
I wanna know-
@@minikkomaThe teacher I had was really nice and funny. I think he was okay with fan art because he never said not to draw it.
I remember once when I was in middle school(which wasn’t the greatest time for me) I was in my home room class and i was drawing my oc’s. Then all of a sudden someone for real grabbed my paper and showed everyone it and there were like girls too no everyone was criticizing me for it and telling me that”Why are the characters like that” or”This stinks” or better yet”You should stop drawing”, I almost fell for it until my friends started telling me to forge those guys and continue on. So, that’s what i did, and I’m improving well, like I’m now learning more about anatomy ad poses which I really wanted to learn. SO the reason I made this comment is to give some of my own advice(somewhat) its, if anyone criticizes your art or what Lavender says “Stop drawing”, pls don’t and try not to think about that too much, just continue on what you love to draw and you’ll be good, trust me👍
I keep changing my style
Cute, realism, anime, cartoons, weird, scary, animals, 3d things, word drawings, cute monster, and others...
Tbh, that's really cool- My art is semi-realistic and really watercolor like sketches
exploring different styles of art is actually a very good thing, keep at it!
My art is creepy anime
@It's Aahana .M keep at it, I'm sure you'll develop a style you're comfortable with, :3
@It's Aahana .M then when you find out what you want just keep finding ways to improve it! :)
Here's advise from probably my art teacher: "don't draw anthro animals so cartoon like" mind you this was in a basic art class for no specific topics :/ like damn why do they gotta be so rude about it lol
Well, if that’s what you want to draw do it
This reminds me of a Tumblr post where the OP knew this kid in, like, middle school who only used Sonic as subject matter for all of their school art projects. The teacher got really mad, but couldn't fail the kid because they were abiding by the project's rules.
Just Chill omg I remember reading that. That’s hilarious lol.
**laughs in literally every pixar movie with animals in it**
unless you want to be professional and and are getting close to the field do whatever the fuck you want man lol
Thank you for saying something about the “stop drawing cartoons, anime, etc.” thing. I mainly draw cartoons, anime, and not super realistic things overall and I’ve gotten so upset when people say things like that. It’s so annoying and it destroys your confidence in your drawings :(
@Zoro yesss same! ^^
Same, when I try to draw realistically it always ends up looking dumb so I always stick to cartoony
@@Jell_DoesStuff yeah same 😭
Deadass!
You cannot stop me from drawing classic cartoon fanart or anime, so if you wanna meet in the parking lot and get these beaters then less go 💀
to get into the art school i go to, my portfolio couldn’t include ANY “stylized” (like anime or cartoon) work. It’s so strange to me because nowadays that’s how you can find a stable path as an artist, it’s crazy that that’s being discouraged.
Since I see a lot of Art teacher Comments...I'll go ahead and share my experience...My Art teacher was a pretty laid back guy...in fact, we watched a lot of Hayao Miyazaki and studied people like Kehinde Wiley and Amy Sherald...He never told us that we Had to be perfect and in the end, he always said that Whatever he drew he did not want our drawings to look exactly like his because everyone had their own style...very few failed his class because he said that as long as the Artwork Looked good, conveyed a message, Showed a Character or told the observer something...then it was good...this meaning Manga Art, Fan Art, Visual Art, and Imaginary art were all valid...We did self-portraits with him one time and everyone passed because everyone did good and in their own style...Here's something I wish I knew when I got into Art class...You shouldn't try and Exact copy of your art teacher...You should take what they drew and try to make it your own and explore your art style...if a teacher is telling you that Your Art Style is bad or it's not Valid (If you're in a specific kind of art class for a certain Art style then your own art style probably isn't supposed to be turned in) then maybe they're not the best teacher...because in life no one is looking for another Vincent or another Leonardo or another Kehinde...They're looking for an Original You.
That was beautiful.
I wish my Art Teacher was like that. She was the complete opposite
But I always copy other people's drawings /artstyles because I'm trying to find my own artstyle..
Wow...
This has truly inspired me to draw more for some reason
And not just you’re art teacher
Everyone
You shouldn’t try to copy you’re friend
Or mom or anyone
Just do art that you love
And do it with fun
And make it *Original*
Because *You are also Original*
To add on to her “using many references” tip, I also suggest that when making a character, you can combine aspects of many character designs to make your own!
Yeah, I do this ^-^
I was teached that by Brezzeakamura and PERPIN (they're like Lavender, drawing and talking)
I always find a ton of references for poses, hairs, hand poses, clothing, wings/animal features, etc. You don’t wanna see my drawing's layers count
Instead of “learn the rules before you break them” it should be “learn the rules while you break them”
Yep I totally agree
Nice one
I remember a time when I was a freshman in college when I brought my old art portfolio with all my anime drawings from high school and my classmates were looking at it, complimenting my art style; then my professor gave a snarky comment about how I should stop drawing anime and that it has no business being 'art'. I was just shattered.
Some people be like: "Don't draw cartoons, anime, etc."
Me sitting here being like: *No thanks, it's the reason I got into drawing and motivated me to try different styles etc, and it's the reason I improved and still love art.*
Me too.
Same
Me about to start my cartoon career
KAZUHA OMG UR PFP IS THE CUTEST THING IVE SEEN IN 2000 YEARS.
Same
I think when a lot of people say “learn the rules before you break them” it means like,, learn the basics. Obviously there will be those that take it to the extreme but y’all need to learn the basics of how legs work before you decide to go crazy w/ them lmao
Define the basics though. Everyone has a different idea of what a basic level of understanding is.
DeathnoteBB Basics are: Perspective, anatomy, value, color, composition. Obviously you will need more than that to be a pro.
me with hands ALL the time
but what if my characters legs are 20 feet in width, and length, are their own rollercoaster, and have 50000000 people shaped warts on their legs?
Jaxson Pagliuca LMAOOOOOOOO
"Stop drawing furries" that hit a little hard.
(I quit drawing furries out of fear of being ridiculed. When I want to draw something fluffy and cartoony I rarely do so in public. I was legit called a furry in my art class for drawing a cartoony dog. Of course, it was just a stupid E-Boy but it sTIll hURTs sIncE hE mADe iT INtO aN iNSUlT) of course, Im kind of just saying "screw it, I do what I want" and made the character that I portray myself with online into a fursona. I regret nothing since the character is so much fun to draw and is very cute ngl. And dont stereotype people, for Christ's sake. It sucks to have one little piece of a fanbase be the entire thing to others.
When someone tells you that just respond with "no one has a problem with Disndy doing it". Becouse people are stupid and always forget that disney makes money with "furry" art!
not even a furry and i agree
Honestly people need to stop hating on people who like drawing animals. is this art offending them? No? Then they need to stop talking.
Tesseract bruh.
God I never understand why people hate on furries, the art is so adorable and I have genuinely never had a bad experience with someone in the community! Plus yall are so cute and sweet 😭
Oh my gosh! The thing with forgetting how to stylize really got me hard! It's so true. I'm so used to drawing with every single little detail that it's made it so difficult for me to draw more complicated things I'm not as used to drawing and simplify them to make them easier!
So when I was a freshman in high school, I use to draw a lot. Like I almost had a portfolio full of what I thought were great drawings that I had put so much time into. I got compliments from some of my classmates & friends, & as you guys know, hearing compliments about your artwork makes you happy. Well at this time, I was in an art class, & I wanted to show my art teacher what he thought of my work. Now granted, I knew there were things I needed to improve on & become better at, but he didn't like any of my drawings. They were all cartoons & anime stylized, & he said that I wouldn't be good enough if I kept drawing in that style. I honestly wish that I hadn't asked him to look at my artwork to this day, because when I do draw, I have that lingering in the back of my mind, & it's so discouraging. I love drawing, & I wanted to make a career out of it. But I now always have that mindset of "You're not good enough, & you won't ever be good enough."
I'm sorry about the long post btw, I just wanted to share my experience. ✌🏻
Gosh, that Art teacher must be eating pencil lead for every meal-- to actually have the stupidity to say that to an aspiring artist.
Gods im annoyed llike fuck
im soon to be a freshman in highschool lol- i hope my future teacher doesnt do that
About the whole “use more than one reference photo”, I can confirm that this helps, especially if what you picture in your head is different from what you are using as a reference. I am a beginner artist and recently I drew a girl in a forest with a cloak on, and I ended up searching up many photos that had examples of parts that I wanted, and I am really satisfied with the result. I find it easier if I can see what I want to end up with physically instead of just picturing it
I agree ...looking up photos for poses and references DOES help especially if you are a beginner artist like me and can't picture your own images in your head.
YES!!!!!
Using Gelbooru or other image tagging sites helps.
@@jilianarielrobert8634 oo thx for the example lol i didnt know- (though i can draw well from imagination references are great for practice too!)
I have maladaptive daydreaming, so it keeps bothering me and can't focus. So this references help me alot even though I haven't finished drawings
For the longest time, people would mock my art for looking very anime. This is when I was drawing what I thought was realistic, or semi-realism. I fought really hard to change my style, to destroy everything 'anime' about it. Yet, every picture I drew, looked "too anime". This progressed into fully rendered paintings. Into me directly practicing from photography. Into everything I did. That was the most damaging thing someone has ever done to me, constantly make me look at my art and hate it because I thought it would forever look like a particular style. Even today, I look at my art, and I see the anime roots I came from in it, and it pushes me away from art entirely, adding depression and anxiety into the mix.
But then, I know consciously even though I cannot shake the fear, that "anime" is everything from Shin-Chan to Final Fantasy. That Western comics share things I believed were dead give aways. It turns out, that through all the terror of being perceived as just another anime artist, somehow I began to believe human faces just *looked* anime in general, unless they were extremely cartoony, in line with Steven Universe and Adventure Time. Since anime was such a wide field, with millions of styles, I somehow taught myself to fear drawing human faces because even photos looked a bit "too anime" to me at times.
It's wild what a few weird comments can do to a kid's mind when you bash their art with the same discouraging comment over time, when really, it's the commenters just calling anything drawn whatsoever "anime." Ironically, I started out drawing Invader Zim/Disney style, so like- ya'll. It's just art. Draw what you love. Don't worry about what people call it. That "Cal Arts style" and that "Tumblr style" crap is nothing but people who think they're all talking about the same thing and all their pet peeves about it, but they're really not. They're just trying to look cool and elite when they aren't.
Do yourself a favor and draw what you want for 1 month no matter what anyone says! I bet money you’ll feel better and never go back to trying to please people (who probably CAN’T draw again). Be kind to people, but this is YOUR life not theirs.
Woop.
The realistic art and stylized art part is so true. Before digital, I was already drawing portraits of people traditionally. When I got a pentab, naturally I draw realistic subjects because it's what I'm used to. I kept drawing realistic for a year, I didn't even think about widening my skills and knowledge in other art styles. Now I'm struggling SO HARD trying to do stylized drawing to the point that I'm starting to doubt myself.