The line art thing is actually something I should try, cause for me I always like my lineart when I do a drawing traditionally but I don't feel too happy with how it looks digitally.
Something I’ve been doing is sketching a really really rough sketch and then making another cleaner sketch and then coloring it and adjusting the cleaner sketch slightly for me it’s added more life when I do simple character drawing so I dunno it might help
@@SaintShion it depends on your art program, however she has the setting scatter (or maybe another name) on for the brush. you can turn that on in your brush settings depending on your program
I hope you do try it, it makes a huge difference! When I was a beginner artist, I always preferred my sketches to my final lineart. I eventually realized it was because it was losing that sketchy and loose quality in favor of more uniform lines. Not only has varied line weights helped me create much more interesting and dynamic art, but it’s also significantly sped up my process and helped me have much more fun with my art. Couldn’t recommend it more - just make sure you know what you’re doing Darker/thicker lines help in areas of emphasis or shadowy areas. Gaps in lineart/patterns also help simplify a busy design and allow your attention to go elsewhere. Generally, if done right, varied line weight really helps clarify what you’re looking at while moving the eye throughout the entire piece. Sorry for the massive wall of text, I just think this was such a great tip and wanted to share how it helped me, and some advice on how to execute it. Once you get the hand of it, you’ll never want to go back
this is really what stylization is about ! knowing the “correct” way and changing it for the better. great video, i think it will help me try to be more stylized and push my art more 😁
Thats why I have a little problem with those tipps. Every "this is a mistake" is actually just stylization and the lineart tip isnt even about clean lines but about thicken the lines of the shadow parts and have a lighter parts for where the line hits or the details are at. the execution is right, but the explanation is flawed
BRO FINALLY dude i feel like enough people don’t talk about how these “errors” can actually be quite useful and interesting I agree with everything you said in this video
I agree 100% with hter and "incorrect anatomy". Ive started to draw miuch thinner, lenkier creatures nowerdays beacause it gives off a nicer vibe then realistic proportions.
Your tip on scale reminds me alot of how in Kill La Kill they change Gamagori's size to make him more imposing, when he's the focus, like in his introduction, but occasionally shrink him down depending on more slower scenes, like the beginning of the car scene
a good example of pushing the size of things I think is the game Smile For Me, the main antagonist is around 7'4 and when you finally see him he towers over your character
I've kind of noticed the "too-clean" lineart in my art lately, so this video help me realize that I should try and give it a bit more life and fluidity ^-^ I think it'll help my art be a lot more dynamic
I've always wanted the sort of loose, sketch like lineart look, but with everyone telling me to do the lineart perfectly and straight I wasn't able to let myskef go with the style I wanted, ill try to do so now knowing that it's an actual thing
Your art advice is so helpful that I cannot sum it up of how much it has opened my eyes with my own art. For me, I keep trying to go with more “realistic” anatomy with my characters than just go with the flow and exaggerate it a bit and to remember my drawings don’t have to be perfect (not that mine are lol).
0:56 haha I’ve watched this video so many times and I never cared for this specific example till now!! Yup, I really like the art style because of it’s hand drawn technique like you said, it makes it a lot more expressive in my opinion!
I typically do messier lineart with my more realistic style, but do clean lineart for my chibi style. I like both, and use both. Stylelization us a big factor in choosing lineart styles
Years ago in a video of his, Mark Crilley had said something along the lines of "don't let reality get in the way of a good pose." Sometimes you gotta stretch, twist, and contort your character in order to get an interesting pose, and if that means letting a bit of the anatomy go by the wayside, then so be it. (of course, don't use it as an excuse to not learn proper anatomy)
the lineart one i started to use, maybe for 2 months, and FINALLY my art got super better, i was in a giant art block, and now i based my whole style in it! very sckethy lines, and bigger eyes
I’ve been a fan of the vintage cartoon styles and made my persona in the style before changing it but I’m slowly starting to go back to that bc it seems very simple for me to do and I enjoy it besides the other art styles I’ve been doing for years it just gives me those vibes and immediately I’ve found a bunch of hacks and tips from videos to make it “pop” which is very cool
hey, i just wanna let you know you really inspired me to let my lineart get a little messy and uneven. its imperfect but i love it so much. im finally starting to like my art style because of this channel
when you showed the tbhk manga panel as an example I SCREAMED i swear it's so true, I always liked that manga style because of that effect and the anime didn't capture it at all😔 but at least the colours were really nice
very cool video. I love the line art comparison. Definitely want to try that again, I have been shying about from sketchy lines for the same reasons you were. I felt like it was a mistake I made a lot early on.
About the first tip: YES, THANK YOU. so many artists have amazing art with jagged lines and people can't comprehend it. toilet bound hanako kun is the perfect example I was thinking of
A great example of anatomy breaking in my opinion is older cartoons (think Looney Tunes type). They bend, strech and squeeze all the time and it just seems so natural with the style.
Whenever I see a new video from you, you help me so much with inspiration and motivation, and you quite usually pull me out of art block, so THANK YOU. So so so so much
The first "mistake" is absolutely someyhing I'vr struggled with and only recently have started to work against making my lines PerfectTM, so this is very reassuring, ty LavenderTowne ♡
oh wow..this video is so perfect for me- i've always been WAAY too much of a perfectionist on my lines, always seeing the smallest line sticking out and think it's the biggest problem on it but nobody can even see it when zoomed out
small tip! if you’re always pressured to do clean lineart but you don’t like the feeling or look of it, try using a brush that is less smooth and more rough-looking. I use a brush on my art program that is actually meant to simulate a real life Micron, so it works extra well with making it look less vector-like. I’ve never liked how smooth my lineart was, and a simple brush change helped me start enjoying lineart more, and being more happy with the result. So yeah, try changing up your brushes. You’ll be surprised how much it could help.
I honestly dont feel the need of drawing anymore- i draw very rarely now and im sad about it since the reason i joined the internet was to draw and meet people that did what i wanted to do, i dont know what happened, i guess i probably just tried to much and stressed or overworked myself about it at a point that it became impossible to do it, i dont have ideas on my own anymore..which is a very big problem for artists.. hopefully it'll fix itself and let me animate and draw again..i miss it
I literally had the same realization when it comes to lineart just the other day. All these years I've spent drawing I've struggled with lineart, to the point where I've given up on a drawing because I just didn't want to do the lineart, it was just far too tedious to me. I'm still working on being okay with little mistakes in the lines, I definitely zoom in too much and focus on details that don't matter. But it's very validating to hear that I don't need to make these perfectly smooth, perfectly connected lines for my art.
The first part with the line art reminds me of security beach ending where Gregory opens the mask and saw vanessa . It reminded me of that because of vanessa's hairl
A lot of this video is what my art teacher always told me, 'know the rules and know when to break them'. You should know what the full drawing looks like, but also know where you dont need to outline it. You should know anatomy, but you should also know when its okay not to follow it. You should know what the object looks like, but you should also know what details you can omit. You should know what the actual size of stuff would be, but you should also know when you can bend scale to fit the peice.
For the first tip - pen pressure is your friend! And also having a light source is helpful, as areas that have shadow will have thicker lines that areas that don’t. This will help you add dimension to your lines without even having to add color ^^
Thanks for sharing! I always have issues committing to certain line art, and gesture when it comes to making animation. My main issue I am currently trying to resolve is tackling perspective and angles. Luckily photo references keep me working, but I do end up running into snags here and there when it comes to how I want the characters to move. One way I have been able to work around this is using certain animations for different points in time of the character's life (ie: age)-- but I don't want to rely on this any more. Watching you draw the same character(s) twice seems to be a great way for me to practice more. I'll keep going through your videos for more reference and education. YOUR THE BEST :-D
I think the biggest reason why I prefer drawing traditional over digital is that I don’t have that annoying voice at the back of my head to tell me that lineart should be smooth and perfect when it’s on paper. I love rugged, rough lines that heavily vary in thickness and length but I can’t convince myself to do that on digital art ;-;
Thank you for the line art part 2:50 it really helped I tried making a brush in procreate I drawer some facial stuff with the brush I created (and the tips) and used a monoline it made a big change thank you again ❤
6:31 YES. i actually struggled with this for a while, befre that I thought I needed a ton of detail to catch the eye (leading to literally almost tracing in- game maps and calling it 'art'.) Now I know better, but MAN
Realism ≠ perfection! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and your art should be what makes you happy! Also oh my GOSH I love this girl you drew for the first one.... 😍🏳️🌈 I also love the "burly washer woman" haha
I was actually thinking about this recently, so what a weird coincidence!!! I think a lot of tips given to beginner artists are only given so they can learn the rules of art better while they are starting out. Most artists, including myself, seem to completely break these rules after learning more about how art works and what looks good vs what doesn't. this was worded weirdly but hopefully people get what i mean!
Rewatching because its good and. "Your neck cant bend like that normally unless youre a contortionist or something" always threw me off. Turns out im hypermobile. And 90% of my characters are too. Uhhh
Hi lavenderTowne you see im a very young and I want to be better at drawing so im coming to you because I trust you and your really experienced my art is alt kinda currently and im not the best at art though so I try my best and I keep watching your videos because I haven't been doing so and I was just sayin thank you for alll of your work I really apperiate it love you!
honestly, i think one of the best examples for "breaking the anatomy" and the scaling part is from anime. Specifically Jojo's bizarre adventure, things are pushed beyond what is humanly possible but it works in terms of story and style.
@@dr.funnybones My brother once joked "I want to buy a Koichi body pillow," and my friend said with a completely straight face "Wouldn't that just be a regular pillow"
![COMIC MISTAKES YOU SHOULD AVOID [fixing my ugliest comic page]](/img/n.gif)
The line art thing is actually something I should try, cause for me I always like my lineart when I do a drawing traditionally but I don't feel too happy with how it looks digitally.
Something I’ve been doing is sketching a really really rough sketch and then making another cleaner sketch and then coloring it and adjusting the cleaner sketch slightly for me it’s added more life when I do simple character drawing so I dunno it might help
I really want to get better at line art. Does anyone know what brush she's using?
@@SaintShion it depends on your art program, however she has the setting scatter (or maybe another name) on for the brush. you can turn that on in your brush settings depending on your program
I hope you do try it, it makes a huge difference!
When I was a beginner artist, I always preferred my sketches to my final lineart. I eventually realized it was because it was losing that sketchy and loose quality in favor of more uniform lines. Not only has varied line weights helped me create much more interesting and dynamic art, but it’s also significantly sped up my process and helped me have much more fun with my art. Couldn’t recommend it more - just make sure you know what you’re doing
Darker/thicker lines help in areas of emphasis or shadowy areas. Gaps in lineart/patterns also help simplify a busy design and allow your attention to go elsewhere. Generally, if done right, varied line weight really helps clarify what you’re looking at while moving the eye throughout the entire piece.
Sorry for the massive wall of text, I just think this was such a great tip and wanted to share how it helped me, and some advice on how to execute it. Once you get the hand of it, you’ll never want to go back
@@SaintShion
You can make good line art with any brush (though I wouldn’t use a calligraphy brush unless you really know how to use it)
this is really what stylization is about ! knowing the “correct” way and changing it for the better. great video, i think it will help me try to be more stylized and push my art more 😁
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@@kavyntar2194 he does this everywhere
Thats why I have a little problem with those tipps. Every "this is a mistake" is actually just stylization and the lineart tip isnt even about clean lines but about thicken the lines of the shadow parts and have a lighter parts for where the line hits or the details are at. the execution is right, but the explanation is flawed
BRO FINALLY
dude i feel like enough people don’t talk about how these “errors” can actually be quite useful and interesting
I agree with everything you said in this video
Ur art Vids literally have helped me improve so much in the past few years and I cannot explain how thankful I am that I found ur channel
I agree 100% with hter and "incorrect anatomy". Ive started to draw miuch thinner, lenkier creatures nowerdays beacause it gives off a nicer vibe then realistic proportions.
Your tip on scale reminds me alot of how in Kill La Kill they change Gamagori's size to make him more imposing, when he's the focus, like in his introduction, but occasionally shrink him down depending on more slower scenes, like the beginning of the car scene
a good example of pushing the size of things I think is the game Smile For Me, the main antagonist is around 7'4 and when you finally see him he towers over your character
That size one is going to help me, as I get back into drawing humans after like a year of drawing only dragons, and cats.
9:24 I'm in love with the burly washer woman
I needed that first one! I've been trying and failing to make my lineart perfectly, and have loved my sketchwork so much more!
I've kind of noticed the "too-clean" lineart in my art lately, so this video help me realize that I should try and give it a bit more life and fluidity ^-^ I think it'll help my art be a lot more dynamic
I've always wanted the sort of loose, sketch like lineart look, but with everyone telling me to do the lineart perfectly and straight I wasn't able to let myskef go with the style I wanted, ill try to do so now knowing that it's an actual thing
I love how lavendertowne is sharing everything she learned like that really cool big sister
I really appreciate her channel, she is helping so many young artists!!💙
i feel like the one where you put the girl looking through the blinds, if you put those two drawings together as frames it could be like a animation!!
Your art advice is so helpful that I cannot sum it up of how much it has opened my eyes with my own art. For me, I keep trying to go with more “realistic” anatomy with my characters than just go with the flow and exaggerate it a bit and to remember my drawings don’t have to be perfect (not that mine are lol).
I'm jealous of your presure control
the ending animation matches the vibe so perfectly
0:56 haha I’ve watched this video so many times and I never cared for this specific example till now!! Yup, I really like the art style because of it’s hand drawn technique like you said, it makes it a lot more expressive in my opinion!
2:40 heh, on the right it looks like a hand drawn on paper drawing
on the left it looks like something that would be in a coloring book
I typically do messier lineart with my more realistic style, but do clean lineart for my chibi style. I like both, and use both. Stylelization us a big factor in choosing lineart styles
I draw only animals, but the tips you give for human art still help me.
Thank you LavenderTowne you are amazing and I hope you know it. You have inspired and helped so many artists.
Years ago in a video of his, Mark Crilley had said something along the lines of "don't let reality get in the way of a good pose." Sometimes you gotta stretch, twist, and contort your character in order to get an interesting pose, and if that means letting a bit of the anatomy go by the wayside, then so be it. (of course, don't use it as an excuse to not learn proper anatomy)
the lineart one i started to use, maybe for 2 months, and FINALLY my art got super better, i was in a giant art block, and now i based my whole style in it! very sckethy lines, and bigger eyes
This was actually very helpful! I’ll have to keep these things in mind.
I’ve been a fan of the vintage cartoon styles and made my persona in the style before changing it but I’m slowly starting to go back to that bc it seems very simple for me to do and I enjoy it besides the other art styles I’ve been doing for years it just gives me those vibes and immediately I’ve found a bunch of hacks and tips from videos to make it “pop” which is very cool
hey, i just wanna let you know you really inspired me to let my lineart get a little messy and uneven. its imperfect but i love it so much. im finally starting to like my art style because of this channel
when you showed the tbhk manga panel as an example I SCREAMED
i swear it's so true, I always liked that manga style because of that effect and the anime didn't capture it at all😔 but at least the colours were really nice
I mean animation would be like hell if they tried to replicate the manga style
very cool video. I love the line art comparison. Definitely want to try that again, I have been shying about from sketchy lines for the same reasons you were. I felt like it was a mistake I made a lot early on.
I like making my anatomy literally impossible
art styles like yours make me jelly so amazing
emphasizing anatomy and positions is an advantage you can take in art :) especially when you dont have motion or anything else driving the action.
About the first tip: YES, THANK YOU. so many artists have amazing art with jagged lines and people can't comprehend it. toilet bound hanako kun is the perfect example I was thinking of
The fact that she used Hanako as an example gave me so much serotonin I can't
A great example of anatomy breaking in my opinion is older cartoons (think Looney Tunes type). They bend, strech and squeeze all the time and it just seems so natural with the style.
I know this is random but: congrats on getting your comic, Unfamiliar, published!! Excited to see it in stores
Whenever I see a new video from you, you help me so much with inspiration and motivation, and you quite usually pull me out of art block, so THANK YOU. So so so so much
The first "mistake" is absolutely someyhing I'vr struggled with and only recently have started to work against making my lines PerfectTM, so this is very reassuring, ty LavenderTowne ♡
oh wow..this video is so perfect for me-
i've always been WAAY too much of a perfectionist on my lines, always seeing the smallest line sticking out and think it's the biggest problem on it but nobody can even see it when zoomed out
I stared including the sketch in the final piece so I can still have the scratchy look
Louisa from encanto is the best example I can think of for the last tip
the lineart one just opened my third eye
The art of toilet bound hanako - kun is *chef's kiss*
small tip!
if you’re always pressured to do clean lineart but you don’t like the feeling or look of it, try using a brush that is less smooth and more rough-looking. I use a brush on my art program that is actually meant to simulate a real life Micron, so it works extra well with making it look less vector-like. I’ve never liked how smooth my lineart was, and a simple brush change helped me start enjoying lineart more, and being more happy with the result. So yeah, try changing up your brushes. You’ll be surprised how much it could help.
I'm currently trying to learn the whispy line art vibe. For year's I've focused on smooth lines but man it's fun to just kinda do it whatevs
I honestly dont feel the need of drawing anymore- i draw very rarely now and im sad about it since the reason i joined the internet was to draw and meet people that did what i wanted to do, i dont know what happened, i guess i probably just tried to much and stressed or overworked myself about it at a point that it became impossible to do it, i dont have ideas on my own anymore..which is a very big problem for artists.. hopefully it'll fix itself and let me animate and draw again..i miss it
Words cannot describe how much inspiration I’m getting to draw rn
Bob Ross always said “we don’t make mistakes; here we make happy little accidents.”
This helped so much!
Thank you lavendertown!
I literally had the same realization when it comes to lineart just the other day. All these years I've spent drawing I've struggled with lineart, to the point where I've given up on a drawing because I just didn't want to do the lineart, it was just far too tedious to me. I'm still working on being okay with little mistakes in the lines, I definitely zoom in too much and focus on details that don't matter. But it's very validating to hear that I don't need to make these perfectly smooth, perfectly connected lines for my art.
It’s been a while since I watched your videos, I missed it
The first part with the line art reminds me of security beach ending where Gregory opens the mask and saw vanessa . It reminded me of that because of vanessa's hairl
A lot of this video is what my art teacher always told me, 'know the rules and know when to break them'. You should know what the full drawing looks like, but also know where you dont need to outline it. You should know anatomy, but you should also know when its okay not to follow it. You should know what the object looks like, but you should also know what details you can omit. You should know what the actual size of stuff would be, but you should also know when you can bend scale to fit the peice.
This explains a lot! I always wondered why I liked Love2DrawManga's painterly style better than her clean style.
Everyone haves there own flaws and strength
THE DETAIL ONE IS SO TRUE.. I mean, have you SEEN the xenoblade character designs
For the first tip - pen pressure is your friend! And also having a light source is helpful, as areas that have shadow will have thicker lines that areas that don’t. This will help you add dimension to your lines without even having to add color ^^
The first one is so true. I learned it the hard way unfortunately qwq..
This goes to prove that rules are there to break. For example, people say dont draw individual hairs. You can make it work with enough effort
Thanks for sharing! I always have issues committing to certain line art, and gesture when it comes to making animation. My main issue I am currently trying to resolve is tackling perspective and angles. Luckily photo references keep me working, but I do end up running into snags here and there when it comes to how I want the characters to move. One way I have been able to work around this is using certain animations for different points in time of the character's life (ie: age)-- but I don't want to rely on this any more. Watching you draw the same character(s) twice seems to be a great way for me to practice more. I'll keep going through your videos for more reference and education. YOUR THE BEST :-D
i love this video its actually really helpful
I think the biggest reason why I prefer drawing traditional over digital is that I don’t have that annoying voice at the back of my head to tell me that lineart should be smooth and perfect when it’s on paper. I love rugged, rough lines that heavily vary in thickness and length but I can’t convince myself to do that on digital art ;-;
I literally have such I hard time drawing without being heavy handed I have to use really small brushes to get the right effect
"Once you know anatomy you can break the rules."
Oh shit, I recognize this artstyle! You're making Unfamiliar on Tapas!
im an abstract artist and i almost have no idea what im making but sometimes i make a mistake then i see what i can draw and i can make masterpieces
4:13
*plot twist: She is a contortionist*
How long has lebeblebleh been suporting you?!?!
Also whoa from 200k to 1.7 mil @~@
i need more of that washerwoman and her daughter
I just had a bunch of character ideas and one of them is just uncannily tall.
Thank you for the line art part 2:50 it really helped I tried making a brush in procreate I drawer some facial stuff with the brush I created (and the tips) and used a monoline it made a big change thank you again ❤
6:31 YES. i actually struggled with this for a while, befre that I thought I needed a ton of detail to catch the eye (leading to literally almost tracing in- game maps and calling it 'art'.)
Now I know better, but MAN
Holy crap I needed this!
If you think about it all mistakes in art are good because it helps you try not to make that mistake again:D
I alternate between lineart stuff. Flowy hand drawn look and more solid. It depends sometimes
tbhk is just FILLED with messy artwork and thats probably why i love the manga
0:56
G H O S T B O I
I love your videos so much, you’re such an inspiration!
I’m here, I’m queer, and I’m not old enough to have a beer
Realism ≠ perfection! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and your art should be what makes you happy!
Also oh my GOSH I love this girl you drew for the first one.... 😍🏳️🌈
I also love the "burly washer woman" haha
5:16 you have to know the rules to break the rules
I really love your Draw by the Book series! If there is a chance, can you make another one? :D
when is that new comic coming it looks so cool from the work ive seen!
thanks =] this really helped!! :)))
I was actually thinking about this recently, so what a weird coincidence!!! I think a lot of tips given to beginner artists are only given so they can learn the rules of art better while they are starting out. Most artists, including myself, seem to completely break these rules after learning more about how art works and what looks good vs what doesn't. this was worded weirdly but hopefully people get what i mean!
You are insanely smart.
When I was little I thought my sink was so big now I think it’s small
0:55 Im really sorry thos is completely off topic i was just really happy to see Hanako :)
Rewatching because its good and. "Your neck cant bend like that normally unless youre a contortionist or something" always threw me off.
Turns out im hypermobile. And 90% of my characters are too. Uhhh
THE WASHER WOMEN HELLO 😻😻
"Something used in manga art-"
AMANE AMANEEEEE
wow this is really helpful thank u
Thanks for this.👍
Hi lavenderTowne you see im a very young and I want to be better at drawing so im coming to you because I trust you and your really experienced my art is alt kinda currently and im not the best at art though so I try my best and I keep watching your videos because I haven't been doing so and I was just sayin thank you for alll of your work I really apperiate it love you!
Omg wyhsjsj I used to watch you all the time
I rlly like to mess up hand anatomy while drawing hands I like to exaggerate all the bends and make them super slim and bony basically unrealistic
ok but hear me out. the elf character
honestly, i think one of the best examples for "breaking the anatomy" and the scaling part is from anime. Specifically Jojo's bizarre adventure, things are pushed beyond what is humanly possible but it works in terms of story and style.
I wanted to comment about JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure, but I knew in my heart that someone already did
Also soul eater does this, there's so much of a "camera lens distortion effect" and extreme perspective and squash and stretch.
Hell yeah! I love the stupid anatomy in Jojo so much
koichi compared to yukako
@@dr.funnybones My brother once joked "I want to buy a Koichi body pillow," and my friend said with a completely straight face "Wouldn't that just be a regular pillow"
As Bob Ross once said, “There are no mistakes, just happy accidents”
🌚👊💕
And he didn’t just say that once… but every time he did make an happy accident
The Funny thing is I got a ad with Bob Ross in it right after I read this comment
_once_ ?? 🤔
but if there is a sad mistake you know you fd up