+briansmobile1 Found out from Mythbuters the other week that the U2 spy plane has a yaw-string, there's probably an electronic way to give the same information, but a peice of string is way lighter.
Glad you guys enjoyed gliding. I soloed at 16 and had my Glider pilots license at 17. I havent flown in years and really itching to get back up there again. Thanks for sharing this, it brought back alot of great memories.
I communicated by E-mail today with Flite Test about them possibly visiting the Glider Airport I fly out of in Ohio. Up-vote this comment to show Flite Test there is some interest in getting them out to our airfield in Wellington Ohio for some Aerotow Action and a day of Soaring!
FliteTest have outdone themselves with this production. This took me back to my childhood soaring the sky with my dad. Kudos to Triple Tree for making this amazing experience possible.
I played through a visual novel(hear me out) called If My Heart Had Wings and several times throughout the novel, they launch a glider using a winch and after seeing this video, they really nailed it! Even down to the little parachute that comes out after dropping the cable!
I am currently enrolled in the Civil Air Patrol cadet program and I am working on getting my glider certificate. I have found that I can really relate my experiences from RC into flying full scale. I love the show. Without it, I would not be the RC pilot that I am now. I am a sophomore and I am trying to incorporate model aviation into my local middle school's physical science class. Hopefully I will be able to bring this wonderful hobby into my rural town. Thanks for your awesome show and your guys' great work in the RC community!
i grew up around a small airport with a lot of ultralights (powered parachutes, hang glider tows, long EZ, so on and so forth. either way i never got to be a part of the sail planes until radio control. I really appreciate this video. Ive watched plenty of sailing on the internet and real life but im just really happy for you guys because i can imagine how good it felt to sail free!. Thanks again!
Now that was a Great Video. It also allows us to experience it with you . Showing how Full size aircraft flies and the information one gains by it, can be used in a similar way to Model aircraft . Like Peter mentioning the "More Rudder" on the sailplane versus a Cessna for example. The Quietness and fuller view it provides versus another type plane. And the way the winch pulls the plane at such a steep angle for take off, that was cool. Thank the guys at Triple Tree for allowing FliteTest to show us all .
Don't we ... Somehow "man-carrying" is not gender-neutral, and saying "real" implies that RC airplanes are somehow imaginary, "people-carrying" sounds a bit silly. So what's it going to be?
***** Since a RC plane and a 'full scale' plane are both airplanes, calling it just an "airplane" would still not give a clear distinction between the two; especially if someone is both a 'full scale'/'full size' and RC model pilot. When talking about aviation, if their is no context in the conversation, I personally will mention if the aircraft in question are either models or full scale, and then after that I'll just use 'airplane', 'aircraft', etc. haha
Sean - That really doesn't make much sense. I am a "Full Scale" Pilot & an "RC" Pilot and that's just what we call it. If you don't fly "RC" then you never understand it. Lol. 👍
Funny thing about the yaw string is I noticed the same thing on an F-14 Tomcat in the movie "The Final Countdown". I used to fly gliders in the eighties and we only had an F-100 pickup with a 302 V8 to launch "Auto-tow". Later we built a winch with a 351 V8. On the first test we did the same as for the F-100 launch and floored it. The test pilot said he was halfway to the top of launch before he could pull his head forward off the headrest to call the airspeed. So we realised that we didn't need that much power because the engine was only reeling cable and not moving a truck as well.
So much fun. Used to work at Waverly West Glider port in Colorado in the late 70`s and early 80's (now called Owl Canyon). We did not have a winch and always used Aero towing with a super cub. But on a couple of snow days we did auto tows with an old beat up old Buick convertible with no doors, no hood or trunk lid to tow gliders. I drove the tow car a few times and in a two place Schweitzer glider car towed into the air a few times, brings back awsome fun memories. Cool glider port, Parton the Oregon Trail cuts across the runway end, thousands of horse draw wagons left deep ruts in the ground, almost wrecked a car crashing into the wagon ruts one time... LOL.
When I was 13 I was working towards my glider pilots license in the old trainers, then one day after a training flight, we went up in a glider much like this one, for an Aerobatics flight.. I enjoyed the aerobatics.. pulling the G's was not a problem, but diving from 8k and pulling up at 1k and looking out towards the wing and seeing it bent like a horse shoe was a bit stressing, but it would climb back up to about 7k for loops, rolls etc... now my flight instructor, sadly SUCKED... he was not much of a people person), so by age 16 I started skydiving...and had more fun FLYING... Gliders and skydivers have the same type of landing... YOU ONLY GET ONE CHANCE TO LAND, get it wrong and your screwed... lol now as a 49 yr old disabled veteran, i have been wanting to get into a quality ready to fly RC trainer (plane and/or quad), but because disability pay also sucks, my RC hobby is more or less going to be regulated to watching FLITE TEST !
I flew full-size gliders before I started aeromodelling and, as you all found out, it's a fantastic thing to do. I flew in the Peak District in the UK and the scenery is great and there's a lot of ridge soaring opportunities as well as thermal and wave lift. It always amused me that one of the most important instruments was a bit of woolen yarn stuck on the canopy to help keep the turns co-ordinated. Pretty cheap and very basic especially when on a glass beauty like the one you flew. My instructor was very good and we did actually fly a loop on one occasion as well as stalls and spins. It's a fantastic thing to do but, sadly, when I had the money I didn't have the time, now I'm retired I have the time but rather less money :)
TheAmazingGurpo I'm afraid it's in the nature of moving from work to retirement. Well that combined with old age (I turned 75 last week) and not knowing how long the savings have to last ;) I'm not on my uppers but spending all day at the gliding club driving tractors to tow gliders and winch cables in return for a couple of launches isn't at the top my priorities, fun though it was 20 years ago. Thanks for your concerns. My last flight was in New Zealand in 1999 when we were cycle touring South Island and that was an aerotow. The Southern Alps must be the best soaring in the world or close as makes no difference. I'm very happy flying with my feet on the ground these days. Although this winter's project is a scale Thames sailing barge rather than an aeroplane, just for a change
I was in a glider in 1989. It was at the Moontown Airport, south of Huntsville, Alabama. It was a lot of things- breathtaking, inspiring, fun, memorable...if you've never done it, do it before you die. I got a lot of joy from flying R/C planes back in Huntsville, while I still could...this was like a perfect cap to that age.
I was fortunate enough just by chance to get the same ride at Triple Tree one Saturday and it was indeed a great experience. Like the pilot said, the takeoff must be what it is like to ride a rocket. I don’t think I properly thanked them for the opportunity but I am very grateful to have had it happen and I’m still amazed that it did.
wow, just wow. coming in for the landing between trees, over a lake, in a CURVE! this isn't an airfield where i want to take my first flight lessons xD
Josh and Eric, Saying it is a great airport is a understatement. lol lol TRIPLE TREE is just plane awesome!!!!!!! The crew, the people and especially the owner are just awesome. I think everyone should go at least once in there lives.
Congratz guys, I fly full scale of both gliders and powered airplanes and what Peter was saying about the rudder input is absolutely the case. The longer glider wingspan makes a lot of adverse yaw. Increasing the lift on the upgoing wing by increasing the camber, and decreasing the lift on the downgoing wing by decreasing the camber makes the induced drag higher on the upgoing wing. On small wingspan airplanes the ailerons are close enough to the C of G that it doesn't matter that much, but with very long wings it makes a huge difference and you'll notice the nose yaw a dramatic amount in the wrong direction if you use a lot of aileron and no rudder.
Loved it. If love to see more ideas we use on RCs in place on full scale aircraft. The first fully operational quad that can lift a person and use as a vehicle is my ultimate dream. The flight characteristics of a heli but the stability of a quad.
4.5l V8 or larger attached to a rope pulling something that has far less weight than a car as hard as it can, is gonna be fun. The one I went on did 0 - 70 mph in about 3 seconds. It's like an electric cars acceleration, there are no gear changes and all you can hear is the wind roar increase with the acceleration.
Im so glad yall let more people into the world of gliding. I love flying sailplanes! I post a few videos of gliding every so often, but this video will get way more views!
Brian Peters Usually I go down to triple tree on the weekends. We always use the winch, in fact I've never not use the winch. It really is an exhilarating experience. You should try it sometime.
I usually go down to triple tree on the weekends. We always use the winch, in fact I've never not use the winch. It really is an exhilarating experience. You should try it sometime.
I was able to walk in that hanger during eweek last Sept and saw that glider. Amazing !!! You guys are so lucky to get the chance to fly in it. That guy has an amazing hanger. Great video guys!!
This is what ive spent the past 3 years of my life doing, and I will spend the rest of my life doing. FT if you are ever in the UK you must come flying over here!
Very nice. I fly powered airplanes, but gliders is definitely on my list of things to do. Is that a repaired patch on the canopy, near the little sliding window? Looks weird. Also, waah, that final approach with the small turn is crazy. All gliders I have ever seen had a yaw-string taped to the canopy. Low-tech, super-cheap, doesn't consume power. Works very well.
Yes, someone must have opened or leaned on the canopy to cause it to break where you saw. The canopies are just simple plexiglass. Very light, very weak.
beastlybeast What? To have repaired the canopy with or to replace the string on the canopy with an RC car? Your comment doesn't make sense and doesn't fit into this conversation...
Peter, you went under an instant transformation to "man in control" when you took the stick - looked like you matured 10 years instantly - a good look! Guys, keep him in a pilot's seat. You'all looked like you had a blast. I did some sailplane time in Dansville NY - endless flights along the ridge. Also, took a sailplane ride in Hawaii (Oahu) at the historic Dillingham airfield which predates WWII (then Mokulēʻia Airfield). Just a couple of fighters were able to get in the air from this strip when Pearl Harbor was hit. Anyway, during my flight, the pilot understood I was a pilot too and at one point in the flight just asked me "Do you like roller coasters?" I just laughed, cinched down my belts, and he took me through two loops - I highly recommend it, very cool in the 5-point harness.
I have soloed four times in a glider. I recorded every lesson (GoPro froze for a few) and uploaded them to youtube. They are on my channel. I had no prior flying experience other then RC. Pilots that start with gliders make the best pilots, my glider instructor told me so...
I checked out some of your vids. I solo'd this year too, and the GoPro was a great tool, especially back when I was working on my landings. Also cool to be able to have that solo video with you forever. Not something possible 15 years ago.
beroth1 There is never a "go around" in a glider. Fun fact: Captain Sully was a glider pilot. He was flying an Airbus A320 when shortly after takeoff he flew into a flock of birds and lost both engines, he glided it in for a water landing on the Hudson, everyone survived without injury.
Specter0420 I'm a gliding instructor. 15 flights is not unknown for teenagers with no experience, or adults coming from something else. Normal is around 30 - 45 flights -- landings, really, as getting that really sorted out is key. It does depend on the type of aircraft. The DG505 Elan in this video (or the DG1000 we use) takes a bit longer than an older slower low performance glider like a Blanik or ASK13 or Schweizer 2-33 in the USA. Then then you don't need extra flights to convert to a high performance glider.
I started flying years ago in a Cessna 150, and got my PPL. Learning is great fun, but afterwards you have to find your own fun. The "100$ hamburger", or going to flyins for example. GA begs to be a practical part of your life, but it rarely is. These days I fly hanggliders. Unlike powered flight, soaring is a sport. Every time you fly you have a mission built in, get high and stay up. Once you learn to stay up, you may choose to take on more challenging tasks like flying cross country. Contrary to most peoples intuition, the best places to fly long distances in a glider are in the flat lands, not the mountains. This is due to consistent winds and predictable thermal activity. In my dreams of flying I don't ever remember a roaring engine, radio chatter, or the smell of gasoline on my hands. Flying hanggliders though has been surreal in how well it matches up with that feeling. I've circled in thermals with birds just feet away, willingly staying with me. I've climbed up to the bottom of clouds and tasted their humid air. I've flown over 100 miles halfway across my state, and landed on my feet in a random farmers field. I've flown above towns the air quiet enough that you can hear the band at the stadium, trains moving through town, and construction equipment working, the sound sort of distorted as if you were underwater. And I've always been amused watching the little GA aircraft waaaaaay below me, as they rarely bother climbing over 4k feet. Sailplanes are amazing machines, with vastly better glide ratios than us, and I would like to take it up at some point. But it comes at a price, both in dollars, and in landing options. Getting trained on hanggliders + all new equipment only cost me around 5k, after that your paying around 20$ for a tow, which could be a whole day of flying once you know what you're doing. If you have some patience you could spend significantly less for airworthy used gear.
Down at "Moontown Airport" just south of Huntsville, AL they fly their sailplane at the drop of a hat. And once a year? They drop the hat! I was able to ride one of their gliders- a forward-swept, Polish one (Poland makes the most gliders in the world) and the experience was fascinating! And once a year, rides are open to the public. BUCKET LIST!
I been gliding before. It was awesome!!!!!!! I have never got to control a glider before. Im planing to glide when Im 14. Then get my pilots license when Im 16!!!!
Very cool. I've been winch towing RC for years, but I've never gotten the view on a REAL full sized winch tow from the towing end. Looks pretty much exactly like when you look at the RC takin' the "string elevator" to the sky from that end, which I've done plenty of times.
Cool! Is it his own design or a kit he bought? If I were to choose, I would try to get a Rutan VariEze's plans or something similar, it is an awesome kit build.
One of the earliest home builds was the infamous French Pou de Ciel (Flying Flea) they're tiny. In fact so tiny a friend built a half scale one last winter and flew it at the model air shows here in the UK. The full size are banned from flying in the UK because they have strange flight characteristics that resulted in a few deaths.
Liked your vid very much, now I know how cool gliders are. It reminded me how the visual novel "If my heart had wings" presented the epicness of a glider. It is a good visual novel, I recommend watching it here in YT. Thanks for showing this
Gliders are absolutely amazing, I've only done an aerotow because our local club towplane is so cheep to run that they don't need a winch, however it's still amazing. I've mainly flown in a Grob Twin Astir, but have had a couple of flights in a Janus B. I've been told by some guys at the club that the Twin Astir (ZK-GWZ) is the prototype for the Twin Astir. So how it got to our pokey little club I don't know
Wouldn't want to land like that, having to fly a turn so close to the ground and runway. I'm used to completely straight final approaches and sometimes they can be tricky enough on their own.
Yes, pilots can easily talk to each other in the sailplane cockpit. In hang gliders, you can fly up along side another hang glider and converse (tho you might have to yell a bit).
Awesome, we live about a stone throw from an airport in summer, x country ski place in winter. My son has been up a few times with a great glider pilot. This summer he'll be interning with the pilots again. Cant wait till he can bring me up with him. Have lots of great hills for thermals around here. Great video guys.
WOW This brought back so many awesome memories. I used to do this many years ago when I was in the Air Cadets. I even got to fly solo once. Unfortunatly, thats the last time I ever flew. So RC is the closest I can get.
Great video guys, I got to fly a two seater in New Zealand for my 50th Birthday, it was awesome, unfortunately the cloud base was low that day but we did find a few good thermals up to the base. I totally recommend you folks that have a yearning to try it that you do it as soon as you can, life is too short, go out there and live it! ;)
This is the only type formal flight training I have ever had was in sail planes. It really is a thing I would like to get back to. I did my sail plane lessons at Crystal Aire in Antelope valley Ca. Josh would have loved this, restored 1942 Cinema Army training glider. steel tube with canvas, high wing.
That was pretty great. You guys are all so nice. Love watching this show just because you are all such nice people enjoying your sport and sharing it with others.
Hey guys love the glider video! I do think you should throw a full size video in once and a while it would be a good complement to all your videos. I haven't know about you guys for very long but have been watching your channel for a few months and love it!! I just recently got a account on your website and it's great! Really love what you guys are doing! I'm currently on my 3rd FT3D! And am in the process of building 2 more for my dad and bro. Love the design and how simple you made it! Love the whole swappable series! I really do want to support you guys and I'm trying to get my wife involved so I'm going to get her the old speedster speed build kit sometime soon! Thank you for the great work! Keep it up!
I too have been able to experience this bliss! I’m glad to hear that I was not the only one who realized that during the landing the plane was closer to the ground!🤣. Thanks for sharing!
I really enjoyed the insights about the yaw-string, rudder control and the contrast between models and full scale.
+briansmobile1 Found out from Mythbuters the other week that the U2 spy plane has a yaw-string, there's probably an electronic way to give the same information, but a peice of string is way lighter.
+sam rowland it's auctually quite fun because it's the most important instrumment and the cheapest besiddes tour bum (you can feel the vertical speed)
+rhjralle your*
+briansmobile1 fUll scale wow ... ok its Models and AIrcraft.
+briansmobile1 I have always loved the elegantly simple solution of the yaw string. Simple is better.
Glad you guys enjoyed gliding. I soloed at 16 and had my Glider pilots license at 17. I havent flown in years and really itching to get back up there again. Thanks for sharing this, it brought back alot of great memories.
Same here!!
MORE FULL SCALE! As a pilot i like to see the rc and full scale communities come together and teach each other
Now I want to see a full scale discus launch.
I communicated by E-mail today with Flite Test about them possibly visiting the Glider Airport I fly out of in Ohio.
Up-vote this comment to show Flite Test there is some interest in getting them out to our airfield in Wellington Ohio for some Aerotow Action and a day of Soaring!
Rcbif Beggar 😑
this is not reddit but this belongs in r/choosingbeggars
@@richardsantalone9380 he's making an offer not the other way round you dip
How did this turn out?
FliteTest have outdone themselves with this production. This took me back to my childhood soaring the sky with my dad. Kudos to Triple Tree for making this amazing experience possible.
My grandfather was the first person ever to be taken into the air in a glider with a winch tow! His name (and mine) was Lewin Barringer.
Lewin Bennitt Barringer? The one the Barringer Trophy was named after? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barringer_Trophy
Now that is cool.
Balu Yup that's him!
GaragebandandBeyond nice! thats pretty cool!
We did the first winch launch in Germany when USA flew with kites.
GaragebandandBeyond Nice!
I played through a visual novel(hear me out) called If My Heart Had Wings and several times throughout the novel, they launch a glider using a winch and after seeing this video, they really nailed it! Even down to the little parachute that comes out after dropping the cable!
I am currently enrolled in the Civil Air Patrol cadet program and I am working on getting my glider certificate. I have found that I can really relate my experiences from RC into flying full scale. I love the show. Without it, I would not be the RC pilot that I am now. I am a sophomore and I am trying to incorporate model aviation into my local middle school's physical science class. Hopefully I will be able to bring this wonderful hobby into my rural town. Thanks for your awesome show and your guys' great work in the RC community!
i grew up around a small airport with a lot of ultralights (powered parachutes, hang glider tows, long EZ, so on and so forth. either way i never got to be a part of the sail planes until radio control. I really appreciate this video. Ive watched plenty of sailing on the internet and real life but im just really happy for you guys because i can imagine how good it felt to sail free!. Thanks again!
I love Gliding, I forgot how much of a relaxing feel it has....I want to fly again....Thanks
Now that was a Great Video. It also allows us to experience it with you . Showing how Full size aircraft flies and the information one gains by it, can be used in a similar way to Model aircraft . Like Peter mentioning the "More Rudder" on the sailplane versus a Cessna for example. The Quietness and fuller view it provides versus another type plane.
And the way the winch pulls the plane at such a steep angle for take off, that was cool.
Thank the guys at Triple Tree for allowing FliteTest to show us all .
I love it when RC people call real airplanes "full scale".
Don't we ...
Somehow "man-carrying" is not gender-neutral, and saying "real" implies that RC airplanes are somehow imaginary, "people-carrying" sounds a bit silly. So what's it going to be?
Wut
***** Since a RC plane and a 'full scale' plane are both airplanes, calling it just an "airplane" would still not give a clear distinction between the two; especially if someone is both a 'full scale'/'full size' and RC model pilot.
When talking about aviation, if their is no context in the conversation, I personally will mention if the aircraft in question are either models or full scale, and then after that I'll just use 'airplane', 'aircraft', etc. haha
Sean - That really doesn't make much sense. I am a "Full Scale" Pilot & an "RC" Pilot and that's just what we call it. If you don't fly "RC" then you never understand it. Lol. 👍
Unintended shitstorm was unintended...
Funny thing about the yaw string is I noticed the same thing on an F-14 Tomcat in the movie "The Final Countdown".
I used to fly gliders in the eighties and we only had an F-100 pickup with a 302 V8 to launch "Auto-tow". Later we built a winch with a 351 V8. On the first test we did the same as for the F-100 launch and floored it. The test pilot said he was halfway to the top of launch before he could pull his head forward off the headrest to call the airspeed. So we realised that we didn't need that much power because the engine was only reeling cable and not moving a truck as well.
Once again an extremely enjoyable video! You guys did a great job, I felt like I was there. I never saw a winch launch full-scale before. Awesome!
The purest way of flying there is. First time I went up on a winch tow, I loved it.
winch launches are awesome! it is my favorite (rather than via towplane). Believe it or not, you actually climb faster than what is safe with a CF/18!
So much fun. Used to work at Waverly West Glider port in Colorado in the late 70`s and early 80's (now called Owl Canyon). We did not have a winch and always used Aero towing with a super cub. But on a couple of snow days we did auto tows with an old beat up old Buick convertible with no doors, no hood or trunk lid to tow gliders. I drove the tow car a few times and in a two place Schweitzer glider car towed into the air a few times, brings back awsome fun memories. Cool glider port, Parton the Oregon Trail cuts across the runway end, thousands of horse draw wagons left deep ruts in the ground, almost wrecked a car crashing into the wagon ruts one time... LOL.
One of the most gratifying experiences of my life.
Look at you guys - ear to ear grins! I've had a few glider flights, winch and tug launched and it's an absolute blast !!
When I was 13 I was working towards my glider pilots license in the old trainers, then one day after a training flight, we went up in a glider much like this one, for an Aerobatics flight.. I enjoyed the aerobatics.. pulling the G's was not a problem, but diving from 8k and pulling up at 1k and looking out towards the wing and seeing it bent like a horse shoe was a bit stressing, but it would climb back up to about 7k for loops, rolls etc... now my flight instructor, sadly SUCKED... he was not much of a people person), so by age 16 I started skydiving...and had more fun FLYING... Gliders and skydivers have the same type of landing... YOU ONLY GET ONE CHANCE TO LAND, get it wrong and your screwed... lol now as a 49 yr old disabled veteran, i have been wanting to get into a quality ready to fly RC trainer (plane and/or quad), but because disability pay also sucks, my RC hobby is more or less going to be regulated to watching FLITE TEST !
***** I would be more concerned when the wings are not bending...
To funny guys Rc really isn't expensive look at hobby king for cheap rc stuff n building foam planes can be very cheap
How do you start training to get your pilots license?
4:43 Dat approach...
Yeah im a Gliederpilot Front Germany and in Germany we mostly do Winch tows its cooler than an Airplane tow
I love Peter Sripol!!!!
I watched his channel for ages!!
I flew full-size gliders before I started aeromodelling and, as you all found out, it's a fantastic thing to do. I flew in the Peak District in the UK and the scenery is great and there's a lot of ridge soaring opportunities as well as thermal and wave lift.
It always amused me that one of the most important instruments was a bit of woolen yarn stuck on the canopy to help keep the turns co-ordinated. Pretty cheap and very basic especially when on a glass beauty like the one you flew.
My instructor was very good and we did actually fly a loop on one occasion as well as stalls and spins. It's a fantastic thing to do but, sadly, when I had the money I didn't have the time, now I'm retired I have the time but rather less money :)
That sounds horrible :(
well, hope you get the time and money soon!
TheAmazingGurpo
I'm afraid it's in the nature of moving from work to retirement. Well that combined with old age (I turned 75 last week) and not knowing how long the savings have to last ;) I'm not on my uppers but spending all day at the gliding club driving tractors to tow gliders and winch cables in return for a couple of launches isn't at the top my priorities, fun though it was 20 years ago. Thanks for your concerns.
My last flight was in New Zealand in 1999 when we were cycle touring South Island and that was an aerotow. The Southern Alps must be the best soaring in the world or close as makes no difference. I'm very happy flying with my feet on the ground these days. Although this winter's project is a scale Thames sailing barge rather than an aeroplane, just for a change
I was in a glider in 1989. It was at the Moontown Airport, south of Huntsville, Alabama. It was a lot of things- breathtaking, inspiring, fun, memorable...if you've never done it, do it before you die.
I got a lot of joy from flying R/C planes back in Huntsville, while I still could...this was like a perfect cap to that age.
خوش بحال شما که سوار گليدر شدید من یک دفعه سوار شدم خیلی ترسیدم
I was fortunate enough just by chance to get the same ride at Triple Tree one Saturday and it was indeed a great experience. Like the pilot said, the takeoff must be what it is like to ride a rocket. I don’t think I properly thanked them for the opportunity but I am very grateful to have had it happen and I’m still amazed that it did.
Gliders are so natural. You guys should definitely do more full scale flights.
I've got amazed with the dog-tow winching system, swear I've never seen this modality, thanks for posting
wow, just wow. coming in for the landing between trees, over a lake, in a CURVE! this isn't an airfield where i want to take my first flight lessons xD
Josh and Eric,
Saying it is a great airport is a understatement. lol lol TRIPLE TREE is just plane awesome!!!!!!! The crew, the people and especially the owner are just awesome. I think everyone should go at least once in there lives.
What's the cheapest way to takeoff a glider???
Congratz guys, I fly full scale of both gliders and powered airplanes and what Peter was saying about the rudder input is absolutely the case.
The longer glider wingspan makes a lot of adverse yaw. Increasing the lift on the upgoing wing by increasing the camber, and decreasing the lift on the downgoing wing by decreasing the camber makes the induced drag higher on the upgoing wing. On small wingspan airplanes the ailerons are close enough to the C of G that it doesn't matter that much, but with very long wings it makes a huge difference and you'll notice the nose yaw a dramatic amount in the wrong direction if you use a lot of aileron and no rudder.
Andy Plater In terms of airplane design and how to combat this, looking into differential and frise ailerons can be helpful.
VN "If my hearts had wings" brought me here......its actually surprisingly similar.....kudos to the one who created the game
same here
Loved it. If love to see more ideas we use on RCs in place on full scale aircraft. The first fully operational quad that can lift a person and use as a vehicle is my ultimate dream. The flight characteristics of a heli but the stability of a quad.
Come for a trip out to Australia guys. I'll take you all up in gliders at my gliding club while you're there. :)
I'm not sure if I should support that. Final glide sounds so... conclusive... =)
What ever is required to get them here :)
4.5l V8 or larger attached to a rope pulling something that has far less weight than a car as hard as it can, is gonna be fun. The one I went on did 0 - 70 mph in about 3 seconds. It's like an electric cars acceleration, there are no gear changes and all you can hear is the wind roar increase with the acceleration.
Any exclamatory statement made by front seater:
IP in rear seat: "It is."
:-) Great vid, gonna have to try this sometime.
Love the full-scale exposure Josh.... well done Thanks a bunch
I'm 15 and getting my gliders licence, its an amazing way to fly and for a student it's great because it's a cheap introduction to flyimg
Im so glad yall let more people into the world of gliding. I love flying sailplanes! I post a few videos of gliding every so often, but this video will get way more views!
Amazing. Looks like one heck of an experience! Full scale sail plane winch tow.
I have flown in sailplanes about four times. Always a towed launch though. This is interesting.
Brian Peters Usually I go down to triple tree on the weekends. We always use the winch, in fact I've never not use the winch. It really is an exhilarating experience. You should try it sometime.
I usually go down to triple tree on the weekends. We always use the winch, in fact I've never not use the winch. It really is an exhilarating experience. You should try it sometime.
Alex West A little far for me.
I live in So. Cal.
Haha Find a place near you. It's amazing.
I was able to walk in that hanger during eweek last Sept and saw that glider. Amazing !!! You guys are so lucky to get the chance to fly in it. That guy has an amazing hanger. Great video guys!!
That's two awesome Videos Back to Back! Nice work guys.
This is what ive spent the past 3 years of my life doing, and I will spend the rest of my life doing. FT if you are ever in the UK you must come flying over here!
Very nice. I fly powered airplanes, but gliders is definitely on my list of things to do.
Is that a repaired patch on the canopy, near the little sliding window? Looks weird.
Also, waah, that final approach with the small turn is crazy.
All gliders I have ever seen had a yaw-string taped to the canopy. Low-tech, super-cheap, doesn't consume power. Works very well.
Yes, someone must have opened or leaned on the canopy to cause it to break where you saw. The canopies are just simple plexiglass. Very light, very weak.
The canopies are super, super expensive to replace so fortunately glue solves the problem
They should try using a rc car
beastlybeast What? To have repaired the canopy with or to replace the string on the canopy with an RC car? Your comment doesn't make sense and doesn't fit into this conversation...
Co cobiispo Sorry, I must have replied to the wrong comment. My mistake.
Peter, you went under an instant transformation to "man in control" when you took the stick - looked like you matured 10 years instantly - a good look! Guys, keep him in a pilot's seat. You'all looked like you had a blast. I did some sailplane time in Dansville NY - endless flights along the ridge. Also, took a sailplane ride in Hawaii (Oahu) at the historic Dillingham airfield which predates WWII (then Mokulēʻia Airfield). Just a couple of fighters were able to get in the air from this strip when Pearl Harbor was hit.
Anyway, during my flight, the pilot understood I was a pilot too and at one point in the flight just asked me "Do you like roller coasters?" I just laughed, cinched down my belts, and he took me through two loops - I highly recommend it, very cool in the 5-point harness.
I have soloed four times in a glider. I recorded every lesson (GoPro froze for a few) and uploaded them to youtube. They are on my channel. I had no prior flying experience other then RC. Pilots that start with gliders make the best pilots, my glider instructor told me so...
I checked out some of your vids. I solo'd this year too, and the GoPro was a great tool, especially back when I was working on my landings. Also cool to be able to have that solo video with you forever. Not something possible 15 years ago.
***** I solo'd after 15 lessons (4.75 hours), no prior flight experience, i hear this is extraordinary but I don't know. How long did it take you?
I believe ya. I've flown powered (C150s) for a couple years. I tip my hat to glider pilots. I'll have to fly one sometime soon.
beroth1 There is never a "go around" in a glider. Fun fact: Captain Sully was a glider pilot. He was flying an Airbus A320 when shortly after takeoff he flew into a flock of birds and lost both engines, he glided it in for a water landing on the Hudson, everyone survived without injury.
Specter0420 I'm a gliding instructor. 15 flights is not unknown for teenagers with no experience, or adults coming from something else. Normal is around 30 - 45 flights -- landings, really, as getting that really sorted out is key. It does depend on the type of aircraft. The DG505 Elan in this video (or the DG1000 we use) takes a bit longer than an older slower low performance glider like a Blanik or ASK13 or Schweizer 2-33 in the USA. Then then you don't need extra flights to convert to a high performance glider.
I started flying years ago in a Cessna 150, and got my PPL. Learning is great fun, but afterwards you have to find your own fun. The "100$ hamburger", or going to flyins for example. GA begs to be a practical part of your life, but it rarely is. These days I fly hanggliders. Unlike powered flight, soaring is a sport. Every time you fly you have a mission built in, get high and stay up. Once you learn to stay up, you may choose to take on more challenging tasks like flying cross country. Contrary to most peoples intuition, the best places to fly long distances in a glider are in the flat lands, not the mountains. This is due to consistent winds and predictable thermal activity.
In my dreams of flying I don't ever remember a roaring engine, radio chatter, or the smell of gasoline on my hands. Flying hanggliders though has been surreal in how well it matches up with that feeling. I've circled in thermals with birds just feet away, willingly staying with me. I've climbed up to the bottom of clouds and tasted their humid air. I've flown over 100 miles halfway across my state, and landed on my feet in a random farmers field. I've flown above towns the air quiet enough that you can hear the band at the stadium, trains moving through town, and construction equipment working, the sound sort of distorted as if you were underwater. And I've always been amused watching the little GA aircraft waaaaaay below me, as they rarely bother climbing over 4k feet.
Sailplanes are amazing machines, with vastly better glide ratios than us, and I would like to take it up at some point. But it comes at a price, both in dollars, and in landing options. Getting trained on hanggliders + all new equipment only cost me around 5k, after that your paying around 20$ for a tow, which could be a whole day of flying once you know what you're doing. If you have some patience you could spend significantly less for airworthy used gear.
you guys need your own show on discovery chanel
That's a real cool final approach with the turn onto it. Looks like a fun place to fly
Im a old glider pilot and this is the best thing there is! Exept that I crashed one time but it was my teachers fault. =)
Down at "Moontown Airport" just south of Huntsville, AL they fly their sailplane at the drop of a hat. And once a year? They drop the hat!
I was able to ride one of their gliders- a forward-swept, Polish one (Poland makes the most gliders in the world) and the experience was fascinating! And once a year, rides are open to the public.
BUCKET LIST!
Great video, excellent editing and composition. What do you do if the engine quits? (Grin) You fly!
*you glide...
What a cool experience!! This is a great video!
I been gliding before. It was awesome!!!!!!! I have never got to control a glider before. Im planing to glide when Im 14. Then get my pilots license when Im 16!!!!
Did you get your glider/pilots license?
@@kiwiphil9731 Unfortunetly not Covid kind of screwed it up as it did with a lot of things. But Im hoping to try again. Thanks for asking!
My ground based tow experience was a souped up Ford Ranchero pulling a Schweitzer. Quite an eye opener.
Gliding is great. Been winch and aerotow launching for 56 years. John. FAI/BGA 51417.
At 71 years of age still passionate about Gliding.
Where did u guys go to have this experience. It looks amazing. I would love to do this.
But be careful to not crash!
Brilliant work. I've always wanted to ride up in a glider. Top shelf work, guys - thank you.
3:25 That guy's going overload with cameras
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Very cool. I've been winch towing RC for years, but I've never gotten the view on a REAL full sized winch tow from the towing end. Looks pretty much exactly like when you look at the RC takin' the "string elevator" to the sky from that end, which I've done plenty of times.
FliteTest why not make videos on fulsize kitplanes? it would tie in well with the whole flitetest scratch build idea.
Josh is actually building one of those. Not sure what model though, but he mentioned it a few times on the podcast.
Cool! Is it his own design or a kit he bought? If I were to choose, I would try to get a Rutan VariEze's plans or something similar, it is an awesome kit build.
Its a pietenpol isn't it?
That would be great!
One of the earliest home builds was the infamous French Pou de Ciel (Flying Flea) they're tiny. In fact so tiny a friend built a half scale one last winter and flew it at the model air shows here in the UK. The full size are banned from flying in the UK because they have strange flight characteristics that resulted in a few deaths.
The way the video was edited, it looked like a 6 seater glider! Very cool video guys.
This is how I would want to get to work every day.
You guys were in the glider that day, I can't believe I missed it. I saw the glider take to the skies as I was driving nearby!
Been waiting a while for those power packs to come out, can't wait!
Liked your vid very much, now I know how cool gliders are. It reminded me how the visual novel "If my heart had wings" presented the epicness of a glider. It is a good visual novel, I recommend watching it here in YT. Thanks for showing this
Was hoping you'd start with, "Well, this is the new glider model available from Horizon Hobbies..."
+Andrew Maxwell That is the best comment I have ever seen!!
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Full scale videos are AMAZING! Keep it up!
You missed the best part of gliding! Soaring in thermals and ridge flying ;-)
Gliders are absolutely amazing, I've only done an aerotow because our local club towplane is so cheep to run that they don't need a winch, however it's still amazing. I've mainly flown in a Grob Twin Astir, but have had a couple of flights in a Janus B. I've been told by some guys at the club that the Twin Astir (ZK-GWZ) is the prototype for the Twin Astir. So how it got to our pokey little club I don't know
Wouldn't want to land like that, having to fly a turn so close to the ground and runway. I'm used to completely straight final approaches and sometimes they can be tricky enough on their own.
Yes, pilots can easily talk to each other in the sailplane cockpit. In hang gliders, you can fly up along side another hang glider and converse (tho you might have to yell a bit).
Mom: What do u wanna be when u grow up
Me: I wanna be a big kite
Bucket list addition! hope I can find one more local here in Michigan
Nice, where can I order one?
I did miss the "Let's see how it stalls" and the "Let's do inverted". Looking forward for a part II :)
Awesome, we live about a stone throw from an airport in summer, x country ski place in winter. My son has been up a few times with a great glider pilot. This summer he'll be interning with the pilots again. Cant wait till he can bring me up with him. Have lots of great hills for thermals around here. Great video guys.
You guys should totally come to wings over the Rockies this summer
WOW This brought back so many awesome memories. I used to do this many years ago when I was in the Air Cadets. I even got to fly solo once. Unfortunatly, thats the last time I ever flew. So RC is the closest I can get.
5:25 "Yeah!" - (didn't fly)
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Great video guys, I got to fly a two seater in New Zealand for my 50th Birthday, it was awesome, unfortunately the cloud base was low that day but we did find a few good thermals up to the base. I totally recommend you folks that have a yearning to try it that you do it as soon as you can, life is too short, go out there and live it! ;)
If My Heart Had Wings anyone?
YES
Yes!
Totally :D
YESS but 18+ Version
watched this vid on mute and playing Perfect Sky ^-^
Awesome! Yes, more full scale please!!
I am so jealous...
A True Wisconsinite it’s not even expensive. You can probably try it
Me to
This is the only type formal flight training I have ever had was in sail planes. It really is a thing I would like to get back to. I did my sail plane lessons at Crystal Aire in Antelope valley Ca. Josh would have loved this, restored 1942 Cinema Army training glider.
steel tube with canvas, high wing.
i think you guys should do more full scale stuff😀😀😀😊😊😊
Love it, doesn't matter R/C or Full Scale, it's so cool to relate one to the other.
me: how is that going to land...
Edit : Did not see the stick
That was pretty great. You guys are all so nice. Love watching this show just because you are all such nice people enjoying your sport and sharing it with others.
Great video guys. I'm glad that you guys had this opportunity. Let see if you can get a ride on an F18.
That launcher at the beginning was amazing! It seems to have an amazing power!
Thanks for sharing guys and have a great weekend
Hey guys love the glider video! I do think you should throw a full size video in once and a while it would be a good complement to all your videos. I haven't know about you guys for very long but have been watching your channel for a few months and love it!! I just recently got a account on your website and it's great! Really love what you guys are doing! I'm currently on my 3rd FT3D! And am in the process of building 2 more for my dad and bro. Love the design and how simple you made it! Love the whole swappable series! I really do want to support you guys and I'm trying to get my wife involved so I'm going to get her the old speedster speed build kit sometime soon! Thank you for the great work! Keep it up!
Love winch launches, though I've only ever done two! Compared to aerotow it feels like you're going straight up!
You get used to it, have done it 3000+ times. For me an aerotow feels like, will I ever leave the ground?
whilst in the Australian services stationed in Singapore we had a glider club and it all winch tow every time, what a buss every time we got up
I too have been able to experience this bliss! I’m glad to hear that I was not the only one who realized that during the landing the plane was closer to the ground!🤣. Thanks for sharing!
Love the full scale stuff! Awesome vid.
AWESOME GUYS! What a treat. Would love to see more videos like this in conjunction with RC. THANK YOU!
Excellent video. GREAT editing!
Done that, gliders are awesome. Thanks for sharing.