My Winter Wild Camp From Hell! How it All Went Terribly Wrong!

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  • @gud2go50
    @gud2go50 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    When. I was a Marine arctic instructor, we use to train in environments like you were in. I trained and taught others how to use their equipment in these conditions because I knew we may have to fight a war in places like that and I wanted us all to survive. However, it was always beyond me why anyone would camp in these places for fun!😅 I can think of so many other places I would want to winter camp. Especially where there is firewood available! It is a dangerous environment, especially alone! Be safe my friend.😊

  • @alanmacmillan6957
    @alanmacmillan6957 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Definitely blawing a hoolie there..... I went up Llyn y fan fach with the hilleberg soulo back in march/april I think; wind was only supposed to be 35mph max but the landscape was causing gusts over 45mph and being close to the lake there was little shelter. The tent was deforming partially as I made some minor pitching errors but it was a similar sort of situation. you get to the spot - it's dark or too dull and you're sort of fumbling around on difficult ground trying to get it done with the wind banshee on your back the whole time. it's harder in practice than it looks on a training video. sometimes you get in the tent dying on yer backside..... but it then ends up having to be an evacuation.

  • @nickbengtsson6518
    @nickbengtsson6518 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was the best and most entertaining out door video iv ever seen. Thank you.

  • @Ed30675
    @Ed30675 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was quite a watch.... Would loved to have known whether the 9 inch. Eastons would have made the difference... Well done you on surviving the experience...

  • @asmith7876
    @asmith7876 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WOW!!! That wind! OMG that was insane! Glad you made it through!

  • @stuartmitchell6991
    @stuartmitchell6991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Terrible place to pich especially when youd forgotten the longer pegs. You're a lucky fellow. From a fellow Scot please be more careful 💙

  • @neo57611
    @neo57611 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Holy shit. I'm glad you survived. Peace stay strong brother.

  • @derekvanturha9379
    @derekvanturha9379 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You endured enough to gain all our respect. Salute to you sir. Awesome video and experience for all of us 😁👌🏽

  • @dmac4097
    @dmac4097 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I sympathise, I had a similar night in a Durston Xmid in the beacons in late April, bloody pegs! Now i have a collection of peg’s always taken regardless of forecast 6 Easton long stakes, some Big yellow ground anchors and MSR Groundhogs (no crappy mini ones) you’ll be better prepared next time!!

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will always take a mixed bag of pegs now that’s for sure 👍

  • @fran-kittyayers5329
    @fran-kittyayers5329 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Glad your back safely, all the best.

  • @NEADtoraiseawareness
    @NEADtoraiseawareness 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you for sharing this experience, it helps to know all eventualities of wild camping especially what can go wrong, so I learnt a lot from your video, as well as seeing some beautiful scenery :)

  • @bernardscott1783
    @bernardscott1783 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bloody hell mate you sure took a beating at nature’s hands, great video mate

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It was beating ok, lol..learned a lot though from that experience 👍

  • @_Mountain_Dave
    @_Mountain_Dave 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Randomly enough i was only saying the other day to someone any tent, even hillebergs will fail pretty much instantly once those guy's come out and great in a sad way you've made this video as an education to those less experienced to prove just that (hope you get your new poles ok though)! There is a certain false sense of safety at present by some people i've seen and met that having the best tent and gear that give's people a certain feeling of invincibility, im sure you have come across it over the years on the hills only for when things come unstuck without the experience things can become interesting for them very quickly. Nature is beautiful but brutal.
    You've mentioned the ground was soft underneath and on moorland, if i can get them in i will always have Delta Pegs with me as they are so simple put super effective. I find the stake like pegs, in any wet ,moorland ground will always work loose (re easton etc), Delta are far better. Failing that as guessing frozen so not going to get them in double pegging anchor's is an absolute must for high wind. Always when i see pressure dropping rapidly and i know a storm is coming i'm happy to spend a few hours hunting getting heavy rocks over the second peg - but i know you said couldnt find any.
    I think the real take away here is to put each guyline on separate peg also, not the 2 from each pole into the same peg (time 16:30). Again a must in high wind, as if one rips out the other will be in and well it gives you a bit more time to get back out and sort. But yea i always carry those delta ground achors when im away in remote area's where weather forecasts aren't relaible or for longer durations. Oddly enough you probably would have got more shelter going another 75m higher into the rocky ground more just before the ridge as im guessing your already on the leeward side, few gully looking systems relief also higher up.
    Have used hillerberg for 15+ years all over the world, even in the Arctic circle and never had one fail, even in hurricane winds as you correctly identify its defo a pegging issue. I think that looks like a Nallo, i would avoid taking the red label tents except the Soulo and Akto in storm force + conditions when solo. I think the Nallo from memory is an odd one also as in can't order the 10mm poles (as in no matching tents pole lenghts in the black range). So i use a nammatj 10mm pole on the Akto etc (also the nammatj is a great tent). The 10mm poles also make a huge difference i've found from experience, worthy for the soulo as never had 1200 Kerlon fail, let alone 1800.
    Also i see alot of people these day's on the hill carrying walking poles with the metal tip uncovered and just behind there head. In bad fall's backpacks don't always stay nicely on your back and your head can snap backwards and the last thing you need is this, or long tent spikes that are in the side pockets on an angle towards you impaling you (the peg issue whilst freaky accident i speak from experience happened to a very experencied climbing partner of mine falling from an easy ridge and not being switched on when tired on the descent, and not being roped). Another one i see alot of this winter is having a bloody ice axe again pick end up just below and behind neck/head. As an easy safety measure it's alwasy worth putting the rubber tips back on poles and keeping the feet end down in the holder.
    Lastly if you don't, always carry a decent waterproof Bivy Bag when solo, just encase, even a cheap plastic one more than likely save your life if you can get in it with your bag and your closed phone matt underneath. Sometimes when things go wrong like this it can quickly be a catalyst for things to snowball. Bugging out during the night, in a storm case in point esp when you might be tired from an active day, body clock catching up, calorie deficient and after a hip flask/tins one slip and a bad lower limb fracture or head injury and it can start being a fatal event. As you no doubt know being imobile and then not being able to get shelter out of that wind and temp and the down rab bag would soon be useless without a bivy in that snow/sleet its likely to be a recovery job not a rescue. In the worst case its about buying time until can get to you. In that weather from what i saw with the limited footage its pretty much a guarantee the SAR bird will to not be able get team member's up the hill to stablise you to prevent hyperthermia intime nor extract you if head injury or internal bleeding and need urgent surgery. Would be a long shout and if in a dip or signal blackspot and you don't have back up sat com device your then onto your expected return time with family etc before the alarm is raised. I'm sure you can appreciate but highlighting for viewer's that are inspired to enjoy the storm's because they have all the gear, yet often fail to see the dangers the mountains can bring this time of year. I would suggest anyone, anytime of year, if going out always carry a bivy bag. Also you might not need it, but you might also be able to save a life if you come across someone in distress.
    Thanks for the vlog and cleary you kept a cool head on the way down, another key to not making mistakes. Hope you have many night's out wild this year, keep safe and hope you get your tent sorted soon!

    • @northernswedenstories1028
      @northernswedenstories1028 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's true,.a tent is as good as it's guylines. I've seen people in Hillebergs up in the fjäll with poor anchors, resulting quickly in broken poles, and then broken poles ripping holes in the fabric. Messy stuff. Personally I prefer the akto in all weathers. The single pole may not make the tent fabric rigid (in fact super loose), but what it does well is flex with the wind. This can result in noise and flapping, but the tent is strong and working WITH the wind, not against it. Look at the Hilleberg soulo. Fantastically strong as stable with good guyline anchoring, but a quicker disaster if a line pulls out. Tunnels in general work better with the wind. Tipis even more so, but not ideal for mountains in the winter. If a line pulls out on my akto likely not much will happen, just more flapping. If the wind turns and blows the sides of the tent this could result in line breakage, but drastic changes in wind direction aren't that common in the Swedish mountains. Is the akto amazing? Not really. It's too small for winter, but I deal with it. I feel safe in it. And know if the pole breaks i can quickly repair it in the field without risk of anything else breaking. In summer I use the MLD Trailstar. Fantastically simple, absolutely dependable.

    • @petergilbert72
      @petergilbert72 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍 re- number guy lines. Hilleberg’s continuous pole sleeves use a single guying point for a pair of guy lines whereas the sleeve/clip tents (eg Soulo) actually have 12 individual guy lines. Either way, getting at least 8-10 guy line pegs into the ground would help (this is as well as the 6 corner pegging points).

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for your comments really appreciate the time you took to respond. You totally get my experience, the day started of beautiful and I was really looking forward to what I thought would be a pretty cold wild camp with a bit of wind but not those sort of winds otherwise I wouldn't have gone out, the forecast I checked was nothing like it turned out but someone has messaged me a couple of reliable weather apps to use so i hope they are accurate. You are right about Hilleberg tents and even I thought they were invincible but quickly learned as good as they are pegging / anchoring is so very very important. The tent still stood up to those winds for about 5 hours before the gales really came and with those short standard Hilleberg tent pegs in soft ground that was game over. I do always take good winter clothing so I was warm enough and I wasn't that high up so knew I could make my way down to the tarn provided I took my time and then decide what to do from there as there was a shelter there. In the end I just decided better to keep going and get back to the car. Keeping a cool head was equally as important. Lots of lessons for me to be learned especially when I've camped there before and never had any issues. Again thanks for your reply.

    • @_Mountain_Dave
      @_Mountain_Dave 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@petergilbert72 Yes your right apoliges i have had to think back on my Nammatj as had it years and well i have been on many trips. Remember now being quite dismayed with the initial setup having to cut the guys to give me equal lenghts and buring the ends on the first time away as guessed correctly a strorm coming in and didn't fancy the loads on the side when the wind changes direction (wasn't aware of the path of the depression, just the sudden drop in pressure and intitial wind picking up). I never understood Hillerbergs decision on this i think its probably in the effort to save weight now that seems to be such a huge factor in tent choices over the last decade (something i have never understood if your going remote and trusting it for your safety). I'm used to carrying very heavy bergen's for miles so its never been an issue for me carrying different types of pegs and spares etc (i mean people even go away without the spare pole section to mend but then again you get people who cut their toothbrush in half so yea).
      So its a good point you raise, and one i should elaborate on what i did to give me extra protection. On the sides i cut the guys to give me 8 instead of 4. I also when it got howling during the storm attached 4 extra guylines using paracord and taut line knots to the top side guy anchor points. I then replaced prior to the next trip proper 3mm guylines and linelocks so it looks part of the tent to the same top side guy anchor positions which gives me options.
      When no wind expected i use the standard 2 guys into one peg point as you would by default. If windy i separate to give me 8 separate "side" pegging points and for storm force conditions i undo the each guy bundle for the extra top side guys to give me 12 points on the sides of then tent, not including the tent fly. The higher points naturally taking more force, for me this gives me a margin of safery as even if i lose a peg, i have a back up, plus the lower one. Makes it (touch wood) near impossible for failure. I also have extra storm guys attached to the ends. I have this setup as go really remote places where a tent failure could be potentially risky to some degree but more really uncomfortable and appreciate it is not for everyone. I would however certainly recommend the splitting of the guys though from the factory default given they have their own separate line lock on any of the Hilleberg tunnel tents for the weight of 4 pegs its nothing for the increased protection. Extra storm top guy points if you intend to camp in extreame conditions where you assess a risk of not being able to secure anchors or potential failure in the ones you have. For me i really think the Black label tents should have better consideration for this but i note people that use them in extreame conditions you will often note extra guys on their tents that they have installed.

    • @_Mountain_Dave
      @_Mountain_Dave 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jockoutdoors2727 Yes no worries, another viewer peter gilbert ( see the thread) made a very valid point and with the loss of time forget the default set up (although ive not had a nallo but stayed in one with a climbing partner i have the nammatj and others). Note the points i raise on the guys, to peter gilbert, would recommend of a read and evaluate yourself for your own uses. Certainly if your going in the conditions you where in the video it would have come in very handy for sure and doubt the pole would have failed as you have time to sort if one comes out.
      Yes cool heads is one that comes with experience, seen it time and time again where something has gone wrong, and it can even be minor things, that then add up and snowball leading to horrendous accidents due to bad decision making when the adrenaline is up. Bet you where glad to get back to the car bud, i always say especially when solo have a contingency plan for if things go wrong, so you've already thought it through when calm and gone through the various possibilities, rather than then having to react when potentially not making good decisions be it due to fatigue, pain, exposure or just simply middle of the night and knackered etc etc.
      Lastly if you go places without phone coverage say where it can be a long way for help ( that said you can be a mile from help or a well worked path, but if you physically can't make that mile it might as well be a 100) like various areas up in Northern Scotland , i cannot recommend enough the Garmin mini's esp for winter use, definately a lifesaver then just use cheapest monthly plan, even if you only need it for a few months of the year. Food for thought.

  • @Hightower600
    @Hightower600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mother Nature can really kick you up the arse at times, but you made the sensible decision to call it a day, your tent poles can be easily replaced, so long as you're safe and well that's all that matters. Everyday is a school day as they say. Thanks for sharing, you've gained a new sub.

  • @georgeblackley6028
    @georgeblackley6028 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Worst night I ever had 3rd January 1990 above Kinlochleven, hurricane force winds, tent pole snapped, held it up all night, small stream running through middle of tent. Still enjoyed it, I must have been a crazy young man.

  • @philandminiphil
    @philandminiphil 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I sympathise, I had the same tent for over 12yrs, I took it cycle/camping all over Europe and it performed brilliantly. Then last October during storm Babet (I think it was called) I was camped in Pateley Bridge, the winds were so strong the outer was blown against the inner and capillary action took over. I was getting a constant shower all night long! By early morning all my kit was wet through, fortunately I was using a sleeping bag cover or my down sleeping bag would have been a soggy mess. Anyway I threw the tent out and bought a Durston X-Mid 1 person tent. Haven't regretted it.

    • @azclaimjumper
      @azclaimjumper 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My solution to your experience is the outer material I selected when I bought my Western Mountaineering Down filled Antelope (5ºF) sleeping bag. I selected the Gore-Windstopper outer fabric that has a 12,000 hydrostatic head rating. I don't want my Down filled sleeping bag to get wet. I could have selected the Micro-Fiber outer fabric that is lighter & more packable, but only has a 2,000 hydrostatic head rating. When that fabric gets wet so will the Down.

    • @philandminiphil
      @philandminiphil 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm over my budget for camping gear now, even so these bags would be way over my budget, until I win the Lotto!!😁@@azclaimjumper

  • @grahamjackson3388
    @grahamjackson3388 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    This is probably going to be an unpopular viewpoint. Is it wise to be drinking two cans of beer when pushing your limits weather wise, in the knowledge that you’re facing a storm in these cold conditions. I’m opening it up as a discussion point rather than a criticism.

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Soon as the wind got up I stopped drinking cause I had a bad feeling things were going to get worse. Hand on heart I didn’t even finish half a can and poured it out 👍

    • @LambySRI
      @LambySRI 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      100% you can have two cans of beer and still drive man. Shandy pants. 😂

    • @kennethcarter5720
      @kennethcarter5720 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Personally, I agree with Graham. Always thought it dangerous to be drinking whilst in the mountains. All senses are impaired. I tend to use alcohol on low altitude camps.

    • @Delete_DeLolz
      @Delete_DeLolz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Plus alcohol lowers your body temperature

    • @Alan-zy2kp
      @Alan-zy2kp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s gotta stop really. The alcohol dilates blood vessels in the top layers of skin “ the redness “ you see in people who drink. The blood is then chilled on the surface of the skin in extreme temperatures and returned to the heart chilled slowing its ability to perform tasks and cooling vital organs and the core body temperature.
      Deadly mix and the culture of drinking in freezing conditions is not ok. Your choice but hey nothingdrinking a hot chocolate can’t fix. Save the alcohol for summer

  • @marvellis6762
    @marvellis6762 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Abisko 2 and shape 2 can match it in my view.... and experience. Plus I remember not liking or wanting to like the Shape 2. Outstanding tunnel tent

  • @Jeff-jg7jh
    @Jeff-jg7jh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We gave up on those thin little stakes long ago. Alway carrie big contruction nails with 2" wide washers. Nice tent.

  • @RogerByrne
    @RogerByrne 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Glad you made it out ok, I had a problem with frozen ground last week and not enough snow for deadman anchors, I was lucky there was a nice hut nearby.

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! A few lessons learned that’s for sure

    • @DemiGod..
      @DemiGod.. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bring hard ground pegs and a mallet to belt them in.

  • @nedkelly2677
    @nedkelly2677 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Hi there.thanks a lot for sharing. do not be hard on yourself .it is winter it can happen. i have been through my self a couple of years ago and lost part of the equipment. i did not give up winter camping and as subscriber I do hope to see you back.have a good one.

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for your comments! Much appreciated 👍❤️

  • @leepark6855
    @leepark6855 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the video mate👍🏻 was considering buying the nallo 2 myself . If the tent is designed and expected to be in severe conditions it shouldn't be up to you to buy additional pegs to make it SAFE!!!

  • @AladdinRamirezGutierrez
    @AladdinRamirezGutierrez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Still inspiring video to go camping, thankyou.

  • @Fredgangai
    @Fredgangai 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That wind sounds icy. You don't need cans as they'll keep you cold have a shot of whisky instead.

  • @craig3401
    @craig3401 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good to see you made it down ok.i use msr ground hog a mix of the large and mini also I take delta ground anchor's for when it's going to be very strong winds.

    • @DemiGod..
      @DemiGod.. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Alternatively you can double peg the windward side as the deltas are very bulky and wont go into hard/rocky ground.

    • @craig3401
      @craig3401 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DemiGod.. that's true but tbf I've always managed to get them in with a bit of manoeuvring

    • @petergilbert72
      @petergilbert72 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I used to take Deltas but they have only a short stub in the ground (and so awkward to carry, but cheap of course) anyway I now take some Hille Y XL pegs instead. Used them the other day in icy snow , also good in peat and in heather where a shorter peg gets lost.

  • @steg-gd2jv
    @steg-gd2jv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant channel jock , very brave there in the mountains , credit to you , all the best , Steg (pensioner) from milngavie.

  • @mickbaker9852
    @mickbaker9852 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was that terrified watching that I will never ever camp out or even be able to sleep well tonight...

  • @ewi57ty
    @ewi57ty 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can advise you to put mat under a silver foil not other way. Even if your mat have a good rating you inflating with a cold air so my advice will give you extra C to comfort.

  • @trickofthetrail
    @trickofthetrail 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Flipping heck mate. That was scary as all hell. Glad you're okay and managed to get out of there safely. Good game isn't it? 😂

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      All good fun in this game 🙄🤣

  • @neilwilliams9844
    @neilwilliams9844 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    FairPlay, 👏👏✊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿KTF.

  • @robwithdogoutdoors1438
    @robwithdogoutdoors1438 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always a learning curve 🤔 after a couple of bails in the past i always take a bit of a variety of pegs and a few delta pegs which work well in soft boggy ground i take 4 eastons too they came as part of a scarp 1 not sure i trust them 100% as the end fell off one before i even used it to camp ☹️

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely a learning curve and definitely a few lessons learned from that experience 😜

  • @encouragesolutions2595
    @encouragesolutions2595 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Simple question. Was that the best place to pitch the tent or should you have found somewhere more sheltered from the expected gusting?

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I came down from the summit a good bit to get shelter. When I put the tent up the wind was fine, not long after the tent was up the winds started blowing. You honestly couldn’t write it. Later on in the night the wind was just swirling and hitting the tent from front and side. The ground underneath the snow was actually not that hard probably from all the previous rain. I did double peg the guy lines but in the end the grounds just too soft to hold the standard Hilleberg tent pegs 🙁

  • @azclaimjumper
    @azclaimjumper 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you, thank you, thank you, for sharing your experiences. I'm sure everyone who's watched it has learned/re-learned/had reinforced, important lessons. We all need to be reminded that Mother Nature can get really nasty & that we need to take all necessary precautions in an effort to mitigate her nasty moods.
    Strong Gusty Winds are the most difficult of nasty weather we have to deal with, much more so than rain or cold.
    Yes, I've "Like", Subscribed, & rang the notification bell.
    I carry a Soto WindMaster fuel canister type of stove. I always begin with a full 4oz canister, thanks to my G Works fuel transfer tool. I have an old wool sock; I cut the toe box off, cut a small hole in the toe end of the sock so I can pull it over the top of the fuel canister & leave the covered valve accessible when I want to use it. The wool sock prevents condensation from freezing on the metal canister when being used by the stove PLUS a sock covered metal canister is much more comfortable when placed underclothing to keep warm or next to your body when inside your sleeping bag.
    Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada, U.S.A.

  • @DemiGod..
    @DemiGod.. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I assume you didnt double peg the windward side. Your tent flapped alot but looking at the poles, your tent was having no issues atall till the pegs came out.

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve no doubt whatsoever the tent would have stood all night long if it wasn’t for the tent pegs coming out

    • @azclaimjumper
      @azclaimjumper 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jockoutdoors2727 The entire structure of any tent get compromised/weakened when tent stakes get pulled out of the ground.
      Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada, U.S.A.

  • @dougieranger
    @dougieranger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant adventure, that’s why we buy Hilleberg tents.

    • @azclaimjumper
      @azclaimjumper 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have & use my Hilleberg Enan in the high Sierras, however, Hilleberg tents, like all tents, need to be staked down with big rocks on top of pegs in strong gusty winds. However, broken poles is an entirely different matter.
      Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada, U.S.A.

    • @dougieranger
      @dougieranger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@azclaimjumperI had a pole break on an MSR Hubba Hubba NX a few years ago, that was a night to remember.
      Hasn’t happened to me with a Hilleberg though.
      Safe trails brother.

    • @azclaimjumper
      @azclaimjumper 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dougieranger A tent with a broken pole may fall on the people inside, however I think it should continue to provide more shelter than getting out into the open & unsheltered surroundings as long as the guylines remain reasonably intact & stakes remain staked into ground. I like to think that Hilleberg 3-season tents are stronger than so-called 4-season tents made by other manufacturers. Hilleberg 3-season Enan is the model I chose instead of the 4-Season Akto.
      When I'm expecting a night of strong gusty winds, I make it a point to keep my boot right next to the top part of my sleeping bag because if I should need to get out of the tent in an emergency, my boots are the very most important piece of equipment I have. I, personally, would be severely limited if I didn't have boots on my feet.
      Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada, U.S.A.

  • @GingerManWithACam
    @GingerManWithACam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great effort

  • @missbabybiker
    @missbabybiker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wait 😮 You went camping up a mountain when the whole of the UK was on a severe weather warning ? Was this camp on the day Storm Isha was forecast (Sunday into Monday) ? 😵‍💫

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No I camped on the Friday! Forecast was supposed to be cold with moderate winds!

  • @MountainManJohnFilms
    @MountainManJohnFilms 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Saw the views you had and thought Id give it a look.... Nice little film. Shows that bail isnt fail. Sometimes its a win. You did well to make the right choice. Lesson learned too. Ive done two camps since i bought some longer pegs and left them at home so far. Not next time!! Stay safe out there . Subd 👌

  • @kennethcarter5720
    @kennethcarter5720 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. I had similar problems with pegs recently. Thinking of getting some Eastons. Do you think it may have been different if you would have dug out some snow.? I see other extreme campers doing it
    Thanks for sharing

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's the thing I did dig out the snow before putting the pegs in but the ground was actually damp/soft underneath when I thought it would be frozen. I think it must have been due to all the rain previously.

  • @hedleythorne
    @hedleythorne 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Crikey, you must have been so tired back at the car.

  • @stewartlancaster6155
    @stewartlancaster6155 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    maybe glance at a weather forecast next time you camp up a mountain in the middle of Januray ?

  • @paulatterby7507
    @paulatterby7507 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I ask, is that Haweswater up to smallwater and the Nan Bield Pass?

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes that’s the one! I’ve camped there a few times now

  • @K9HighlandsSearchTeam
    @K9HighlandsSearchTeam 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lucky guy, walking down in those conditions could have ended very badly. A tent collapsed still offers shelter especially with a warm sleeping bag, yes it won't be the best of nights but you will be safe until daylight. Agree regarding the Easton pegs or should we call them zombie killers, use nothing else, never let me down. Stay safe, atb Bill

  • @sab7tona
    @sab7tona 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    check the mountain top weather

  • @LakeDistrictOutdoors
    @LakeDistrictOutdoors 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great views, great video. Subscribed😊

  • @multigabby2
    @multigabby2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi glad you got off safely, is the tent an Anjan 2 ? cheers

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, got off safely in the end 🙏🏻

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! Its the Nallo 2

    • @azclaimjumper
      @azclaimjumper 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jockoutdoors2727 I've been wondering which brand/model tent you were using. Now I know.
      Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada, U.S.A.

  • @TheRedleader01
    @TheRedleader01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    if camping in bad weather,ALWAYS carry a bivvy bag as a last resort,its better than bailing out cus you have no other option plus the bivvy bag wont take up much room-always have a plan B bro 😉 oh btw,i subscribed to help your channel grow

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just bought a bivvy bag after that experience! Thanks for subscribing👍

  • @lifesahobby
    @lifesahobby 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are better days to camp, wait for them .

  • @craigy1872
    @craigy1872 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Should’ve brought the Soulo 😮

  • @EdMajor-n8b
    @EdMajor-n8b 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely NOT! It should have been at least 3; but then you got that extra weight when pushing limits.

  • @2535apple
    @2535apple 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well done

  • @aileenl7227
    @aileenl7227 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are officially crazy 😆 Red wind warnings ⚠️ and your up a mountain.

  • @martinparry9137
    @martinparry9137 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beer is good for you 😉

  • @littlegrandadoutdoors
    @littlegrandadoutdoors 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @#jockoutdoors well done!! for staying safe. Not so well done for forgetting the peggs... I have the really heavy 9inch nails really heavy duty... I was up kinder scout last Monday - Wednesday.. Monday night I didn't need the peggs and cursed myself for carrying nearly a kilo in weight that I didn't need... Tuesday night the winds came in ,,, freezing winds from the north ... fjallraven tents olso give those stumpy little tuff as nail ( literally) peggs.. so my heavy 9inch nails really saved the day... I had the army bivi bag if needed,, so I would probably have stayed the night .. my ski goggles are tinted so working my way down in those conditions would be more dangerous... take care jock, better luck next time

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Appreciate the comments! I won’t make the same mistake twice 👍

  • @etztz123
    @etztz123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    delta anchors next time m8. better still just stay indoors. silly going out in those conditions and even sillier trying to get down. makes good watchning but safety first. each to there own though i suppose....

    • @littlegrandadoutdoors
      @littlegrandadoutdoors 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I struggle to get my deltas in , if the ground is too frozen.... I still take them though. They need their own bag and are awkward to pack.. I would have stayed until first light. Though I have good bivi bags , so never have to worry about my sleeping bag getting wet...

    • @etztz123
      @etztz123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@littlegrandadoutdoors Yeah Id of used my walking pole to prop the tent up to create a bivvy. No way I'd have gone down in that lol. know what you mean about getting them on frozen ground. I usually hammer them in with a stone or pour a little water on the ground where you intend to put them. Try not to go out in ridiculous conditions though anymore if I can help it.

    • @littlegrandadoutdoors
      @littlegrandadoutdoors 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@etztz123 I think it comes down to each persons idea of crazy conditions and how good their kit is... my kit is good enough to deal with 40 - 50 mph winds so I don't consider that to be crazy conditions. Though I would not go any wilder than that as i believe that to be crazy .. good idea about putting water down for delta pegs..

    • @etztz123
      @etztz123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​​@@littlegrandadoutdoors 👍 Agreed every one to there own. I've done the same in the past and in probably worse conditions, however not anymore lol. When it comes to risk every one's comfort level is different. Going out in bad weather is exciting however the odds of having an accident vastly increase especially descending mountains in the dark in conditions like those. Got to think of my family and the people who have to try and rescue you. Great video though....

    • @littlegrandadoutdoors
      @littlegrandadoutdoors 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@etztz123 yes I believe the universal rule of "only leaving the mountain if it is safer than staying on the mountain"... my winter kit is so heavy because I double up on kit.. injury or kit failing is the reason people get in trouble... well apart from inexperienced people who are stupid to the facts of camping on mountains ... I was in the mountains last week,,, my rucksack was honestly far too heavy . Almost to the point of not enjoying it... (as normal, when I got home I couldn't wait to get back out ) . Yet that is what is needed to stay safe in rough wintery weather

  • @garyvause2475
    @garyvause2475 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At lease ur safe

  • @marcl3763
    @marcl3763 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    GREAT VID BUT PLS BE MORE PREPARED AS ID LIKE TO CONTINUE WATCHING YOUR VIDS!!!!!

  • @garyvause2475
    @garyvause2475 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At ur safe

  • @lynchetts
    @lynchetts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Drinking alcohol while winter camping is just plain stupid.

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Actually I didn’t even drink half a can and poured the rest out as it started getting windy! But I agree otherwise 👍

    • @lynchetts
      @lynchetts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jockoutdoors2727 Your a plonker for even taking it up there - you intended to drink it and you would have if the wind had been a few hours later. You would then be a liability and putting mountain rescue lives at risk.

    • @OB_1979
      @OB_1979 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@lynchettsalright mate calm down

    • @LambySRI
      @LambySRI 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Guy had 2 cans of beer with him, not two bottles of wine or spirit.
      I get people die on the hills in bad weather, but seems a few dramatic comments on here.

    • @lynchetts
      @lynchetts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@LambySRIAnd a litre of wine

  • @Markwildcamp
    @Markwildcamp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Read the Beaufort scale and give the click bait hollywood you tube experts a miss, you'll thank someone later😉

  • @alanoconnor007
    @alanoconnor007 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If your spikes were a god send, what masochist sent you the pegs. Well done for still being alive and get yourself a bivvi bag.

    • @jockoutdoors2727
      @jockoutdoors2727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just got myself an Alpkit bivvi bag 👍

    • @alanoconnor007
      @alanoconnor007 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jockoutdoors2727 Wise move for sketchy weather 🧱

  • @YokoSanchez
    @YokoSanchez 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    … like why????? Omg

  • @paulannable3734
    @paulannable3734 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can’t think why you didn’t film the tent collapsing and you making your escape. As the young people say, that would have been sick.