Information from Playstation interview: Assault Boost: One of the biggest new features in Armored Core VI is an instantaneous switch between long-range gunfighting and close-range melee, thanks to a button-activated movement skill called the Assault Boost. there will be multiple endings to Armored Core VI’s narrative, with new paths opening up on subsequent playthroughs Stagger: Another addition to the series’ combat is a “stagger” element: if an AC takes too many hits over a short period of time, its Attitude Control System will be overloaded, making it vulnerable for a short time.
I noticed that stagger during my analysis of the trailer, and got super excited. That sounds way better than the type of stunlock you'd previously get, like in AC2 Defend the Bridge, where if you got hit by those little flying MTs, they'd just hold you there and eat your AP for breakfast
I'm getting the vibe its going to have a real soft camera centering on an enemy when locked on at range (maybe only when right stick is neutral) at most, but in Assault Boost it becomes Soulsy and super centered. This works for me because it feels like a version of overboosting from 1-3 except actually practical (couldnt shoot or turn for shit during it). Watch it actually just be R3 to Assault boost, just like souls lockon. Kind of feels like a natural progression from the L3+R3 that forced you to straight line only.
Assault Boost really doesn't sound to me like a new feature to me, it just sounds like exactly what we think it is, Overboost. Unless they made it faster and shorter burst, but that would still just be a fast Overboost. I hope they'll elaborate on this because right now it doesn't sound at all like a new feature.
I think it's not impossible that some bosses might have a specific "no fly zone" attack, like a huge rack of AA missiles that makes flying extremely dangerous and allows them to design attacks on the assumption you'll be on the ground. Maybe i'm just huffing hopium because i really really want to see free flying from the old days return
i think not every AC is capeable of flying , i also think that the varity of options are way more than the ever before ALSO there will be a DLC anyway ;) AC4 was cool but AC4A was better , you get my point.
@LeoC launch pads *might* indicate that only some heavier ACs might not be capable of free flight, which is a balance decision i would be more or less alright with, and the pads are there to make sure you can't softlock a level with the wrong setup. Again, i'm aware this is some high-grade hopium but it's not entirely over yet
I think that the perfect lock on thing we see at 9:15 is also like soulsey but at the same time it coulld be kind of lime a headfunction like biolock Opinions?
In regards of flying: It's entirely possible that you could boost straight up like in gen1-3, but it consumes so much energy that you can't just fly infinitely, but have to land to recharge.
one game fucked everyone up where armored core=flying. Build your shit better if that's what you want to do, sorry you can't have the heaviest weight capacity legs and float around dropping icbms on people, learn to drive
The jump pads could maybe be an accessibility feature for players who built their mechs so overweight that that they can barely even lift off the ground. So instead of being forced to restart when stuck in a mission where you can't boost over walls, you can find jump pads to progress. It could also mean that the size of buildings in the game are massive and it would take forever to just fly over them without a jump pad to assist to get to the top of them.
@@Sfhqr Yea personally I think it would be a cool idea because it would allow for more freedom of expression to choose your type of mech, for instance it could further emphasize that tank legs are not suitable for aerial combat but they could be exceptionally well on the ground. That said, I am personally doubtful about it, I feel like it's more likely just a way add more to levels and perhaps disguise loading screens. (If your mech takes 2 seconds to ascend a tower you can be assured the game is probably unloading all the stuff behind the player for a performance boost)
I don't really see how 2 bosses having sweeps invalidates flying considering we see flight with the overed weapon missile boat boss. The best guess is that flight isn't an easy infinite thing like in 4A but probably something more taxing.
It's really looks like will be something limited. In comparison with the older titles, more akin to V/Verdict Day but without the need for a structure to climb since you get launch in the air.
I the only one who remembers the arms forts from answer that are just a boat with a blade on it that you jump over, or those turtle things that you just him on and hang out in the vent and your safe? I feel like jumping over attacks isnt something new or revolutionary
@@Shadow-sword most people only remember Motherwill. And yeah jumping isn't revolutionary. I suspect most bosses will have a hail of machine gun/laser fire for if you fly which isn't as interesting for a trailer hence the missile boat being the only boss we see the player fly.
Yup, in most build you can only be airborne for a minute before needing to recharge before 4th gen(unless human+/OP-I). And from what i can see the only one that hovers in a fixed altitude are the quad with it special things, maybe each type of legs gor their own special things, tank got drift, quad got hover, and bi-ped both reverse and normal got better melee capabilities?
Nice pointing out the shoulders being in use at the same time as the same hand weapon. I imagine that there will be a button for each shoulder weapon and pressing it will either swap or use the weapon depending on the type. I think the Assault Boost will add tracking while you stay within close range. Either that or we just auto-lock bosses. There's no way they put in a Souls lock-on for general combat. Free flying doesn't necessarily contradict those boss animations if they simply make early game more grounded by only providing mediocre generators and energy expensive boosters with low lift. It's honestly really hard to tell without knowing how far into the game those specific fights are. My suspicion is that we're just going to have less lift in general to somewhat limit flying rather than the actual limited hovering that was in 5.
@@aboveaveragegaming6120 yes. Been wanting old gen ports for years now. I want AC3 with analog sticks, especially. It would take the best mecha game of all time way too easily.
I'd be happy if they just introduced the titles to gamepass or playstation classics. There is so many deep cuts on the platforms from the old days i dont know how the entire series was overlooked just because of some publishing bureaucracy.
I feel like Fromsoft has to perform a sort of balancing act with AC6. There's going to be veteran AC fans, but there's also going to be a large contingent of people (like me) who love Fromsoft for their recent catalog of Souls and Souls-like games. I feel like the large boss fights having a Souls feel and the expansion of melee combat is them trying to strike this balance. Either way, I'm sure this game will be even more divisive with those fans than Sekiro. Personally, I'm really excited to master a new combat system with radically different mechanics.
I think that the perfect lock on thing we see at 9:15 is also like soulsey but at the same time it coulld be kind of lime a headfunction like biolock in the older games Opinions?
@Siberian yeah definitely I look forward to it I just hope that the customisation is therem I rly like the AC lock on system specifically and at 9:15 that scene showed something Lknda yk suspicious. But imo Id be super happy if it was a head part function like in the older games like BioLock or something like that
@Siberian yea I think it will be fine, From Soft is a big name now as well so they do have to make the appeal to a general audience to a degree because all eyes are on them now. At the same time they can absolutely rack up the difficulty later because that's what they are known for.
Im an old fan of this game and I just wanted a fun mech game. When it comes to armorcore I'll be very happy with a similar one to armored Core 4 or armored Core 3 but I'm not opposed to them adding in some new features that may help the gameplay. I really want to see what they can do with modern technology and this older style game.
I love how AC6 is a fusion of many favorite aspects of past games The fast combat speed of 4th Gen The extensive Missions of 3rd Gen And the unique gimmicks of 5th Gen(Legs being even more specialized in 6th Gen remind me of how 5th Gen tried to do it but failed due to overall gameplay not the gimmicks themself being unnecesarily rough)
I don't mind if they don't have straight up flying if it means they can have more tightly designed environments and arenas. Flight was pretty much the reason almost every area in Armored core was like an open square field or a low-ceiling dungeon. Give me that creative environment design and I'll get over the flight.
I kind of interpreted his answer to the "how have you made the AC experience easier for new players" in the opposite way as you. He stressed that there's a careful onboarding process to get people used to the controls, NOT that the game overall is going to be easier or more forgiving. What that said to me was "we have not gone out of our way to make the gameplay any less complex or have any lower of a skill ceiling at the highest level, but we'll give you a bit of time to get used to it"
The argument that they wouldn't design the boss to have giant melee attacking arms is compelling at first but you have to consider that that hover move shown earlier in the trailer could just as well be deployed against it. So would they force you to use specific walker legs against it just so the boss works? Doubtful if you ask me, my bet is that like other commenters have said there are specific anti-air attacks that kind of disincentivize hanging around in the air all time. Also, how would you ever board that giant walker mech shown earlier in the trailer unless you could fly. Hell the trailer opens with what looks to be gameplay of an AC flying through the air. I guess we won't really know until more information comes out. Maybe there'll be a more in-depth showing before release.
Another thing to take into consideration is that this trailer is by no means a representation of the final product, so those enemies with close ranged sweeping attacks might not even be the actual challenge, there could be other enemies that you're facing at the same time and perhaps the boss is just your final objective to destroy. Perhaps you'll even be able to throw enemies into the boss to scrap them so they act more as a environmental hazard rather than a boss. We have no clue if these are supposed to be like endgame bosses either, they could be enemies you face early on that you can trivialize by using basic movements as cannon fodder to get you more accustomed with the game or as bullet sponges to test out your powerful weaponry with.
@@TheGallantDrake Yea in hindsight I should have just left it as a boss and moved on. But my main point was, enemies in games which don't look threatening at all can still achieve a goal or purpose. In this circumstance we just didn't see the entirety of the bosses' moveset. It has things that can be "threatening" to a player that can fly around a lot. This is my assumption, but it appears the fact that you can't boost around forever will be the main thing that bosses exploit to make them challenging. That said, I think it'll be a mid-to-early game boss. I don't really think there's enough going on to make more than that. It could have a second phase or something though that makes the fight completely differnt, but I doubt that since it was a gameplay demo and it was mentioned that the other dev showcasing the game beat the boss which makes me think it probably a pretty short one.
The Quad legs seem to be a throwback to how they functioned in AC5/VD. Quads in those games could act as hovering gun fortresses because of their high AP and CE defense.
This game is looking like the best ideas from all armored core games coming together while still innovating with new ideas…. It’s insane, and the game looks so pretty too.
From the first trailer I already assumed that this was gonna take elements from previous games the same way Elden Ring did for Souls and this trailer confirmed all of that for me and more. HYPE!!!
To me at least, It's like they're taking all of the best elements from AC3, AC4 and AC5 and adding a little bit of souls design cues in terms of the boss fights and some of the melee combat. Doesn't mean it mech souls or anything, they even said in an interview that while melee combat is more robust, the main focus is still going to be the gunfighting like it's always been.
Considering the new stagger system and assault boost mechanic, i dont think the pilebunker will be a one shot anymore, its bad game design to begin with. It sounds like the intended playstyle is to fire at range until an enemy gets staggered, and then use assault boost to dash forward and swap to melee weapons in a single button press so that you can finish off the enemy
@LeoC From what I understand is that in previous games (except gen 4 I think) you couldn't sustain flight for very long without using a lot of energy. I imagine the launch pads are there for builds that aren't heavily built around flight to get in the air without using too much energy.
I just dont understand why they chose to go with a 30 fps English trailer for North America and Europe when the Japanese trailer is 60 fps. I ended up dubbing the English into the 60 fps trailer on my channel. It makes a huge difference.
Every aerial flight path in the whole trailer has a clean horizontal trajectory which was impossible until gen 4 and even that required you to lower your thruster output until your vertical lift roughly matched with gravity. Also the maps have launch pads to give extra height in certain parts of the map. I think it’s safe to assume that air mobility will be ACV style.
Bro thats a twinblade at 6:58, likely a quickboost attack unique to it, just like how there are running attacks in ER, I think they added unique melee attacks right after a quickboost. *This is just my own speculation* , Edit: After thinking about it a little more, it makes more sense that they just added charged attacks for melee.
While I can see your concerns for it being *too* soulslike, I want to just point out that having an autolock tracking system in a scifi-fantasy ultra advanced mech is completely believable. Your point about the boss not having weapons like that, the vibe I got was that these are industrial machines first, enemies second. So that boss looked like some kind of mining unit, with all those grinding/digging wheels. I will withhold judgement on the flying/hovering system until I play it and feel it. I don't think mech games *have* to have free flying, but it can be fun too so /shrug
I kept saying they needed to ground the combat more, to emphasize the functional differences in builds. But what's seen isn't enough to confirm that. Just jumping over an attack doesn't necessarily mean that they've hard grounded things. All it means, is that they're sticking closer to AC3 and AC5, which I also keep telling people that the game will be closer to AC3 than it will be to AC4/4A. But that should've been obvious looking at the first trailer and the aesthetic they've chosen for the parts. It's also worth noting that in all the instances here, they weren't just purely "throwaway" encounters. And the info that has come out confirms that they've emphasized reading enemy type/patterns. Those were "Elite" enemies at worst, and maybe "Boss" encounters at best. Something else I've suggested in the past, and maybe they've done, is "Plane Shifting" for flight, judging by the Quad. What I mean by "Plane Shifting" can be summarized by the function of Hover extensions in AC3/LR except as a mechanic instead of a benefit you get from a specific extension that almost nobody uses/wants to use. The Plane where you engage the "Hover" becomes the default Plane, the new ground level. If people keep holding up AC4/FA and expecting this game to be anything close to it, they're going to be disappointed. It's AC3 and AC5, with some of the bells and whistles from AC4.
As someone who has become a fan of Fromsoft through the Souls games but never played an Armored Core game, the biggest excitement I have is just the change of game as it feels fresh from my point of view. Another is the fact that through listening to old school Armored Core fans is that you don't want to see a regression in mobility and more of an extension of AC4. Personally I'm hoping for a complete mixture, where fast and light flying mechs are better for certain missions while slow and heavy grounded mechs are better for other missions. Just that tactical element where you set the rules of your setup yourself, making it as easy or as hard as you want makes me feel that the single player content will be deep and highly replayable.
I never played 4 or 5 because I didn't have those consoles, but as long as we can glide in the air based on our energy availability like in the older games I'll be happy. Melee only oversized bosses do seem out of place though, as they can be easily kited...unless reasons...
I'd be willing to bet knowing FromSoft full flying will be totally possible, but probably not without building so heavily into that its kinda infeasible.
This is just an idea but perhaps the hovering with the quad legs is a way to stay stationary in the air without having to feather the boost button to keep your exact height. Like for instance you click the right analog stick and you hover in place. Or perhaps they added a lockon feature so that when you target an enemy in the air you stay in a fixed position, allow you to maneuver in relation to the locked target. The hovering feature could also be something exclusive to quad legs to perhaps give them unique movement options compared to other leg types. For instance, the tread legs will likely be able to maneuver quickly/drift on the ground, perhaps they want the quad legs to be the tank treads equivalent but when hovering in the air? (like tank drifting in hovercraft) It's possible that the hovering is a special energy-saving mode, where you're restricted in movement but it allows you to stay in the air longer or make energy weapons more viable. I assume that the reverse jointed mechs would have an increased jump height to make switching between ground and aerial combat quickly for the bunny hopping enthusiasts. I also want to mention it's a nice transition in the trailer that they show the tank treads directly after the quad legs section. It gives the viewer a nice contrast in playstyles between grounded and aerial combat with the 2 heavier leg types.
in other games your character walks then runs depending how much you move the analog stick... i think in this game AC can walk but use thrusters right away on max speed automatically...
5:27 I'm pretty sure that's an MT or some kind of enemy there using the whip, not another AC. so it's not guaranteed the laser whip thing is actually usable by players
1:22 This is all the proof that you need that flying exists, for the cool people in the comments that need it. To what extent can you fly? Who can say. I, for one, do not want gen 4 flying-- as much as I like gen 4, I don't need infinite flight that is handed out like candy. in gen 2 and 3 I think you could, but it would be very tough to do or might require human plus. I think considering the boss structure, some limit would probably be required, whether that's just the core mechanics or the boss/arena having a type of AA function. And by that, I don't mean that you won't be able to fly, but that you simply can't fly forever out the gate. I'm not against infinite or highly maneuverable flight, but I don't think them not displaying such means that the game is going to just be gen 5 again, which many people seem to not like I guess.
Sekiro has jumps too and it's the lead combat design for sekiro heading up the project . Could be that if u don't have any flying equipment u can still jump
Typically in AC, even if your build isn't suited for flying, you still require boosters. You can jump in all of them, but generally, the maximum is roughly the height of your AC.
8:55 is concerning. FCS and Manual Track is essential to armored core game in term of what set a pilot skill, without it i think it would be completely different and i mean for sword game sure... but for a game where guns are the primary option most of the time having lock on guns just remove any kind of gameplay skill requirement. Lets just say if lock on gun exist the fight with zinaida where you have to manually track her in FCS and manage dodging nonstop would be very different...
this is probably just some hype editing by the team and not representative of the game itself. we have seen the trailer do some wacky camera angles. this is likely A) all just for show to flex the dynamism of the combat or/and B) a hint at a camera system for taking screenshots during gameplay
This actually has me excited. It's just what I was hoping for tbh. Believe me, the producer of Sekiro isn't going to let this game get away with not having a huge skill ceiling bruhvs.
I saw the trailer and in the first 25 seconds they confirmed Human Plus when they said "augmented human". I relate this to DMC5 and how that was a love letter to all the fans across multiple games. AC6 will hopefully be the same; a very successful game of depth and replayability. The bosses are going to be what AC6 gets to stand out compared to other titles in the series. People will say Arms Forts but I never got on board with fighting a building.
@@rreckinreturns 🤷♂️ Lynx tech was just a widely adopted evolved Human Plus that was a requirement to pilot Nexts. I don't recall any Human Plus being significant to the pilot stories or the overall story. Oh well.
@@thorinhannahs4614 see, I always thought of Lynx closer to that of Gundam pilots, where it sounded like a nervous system linkage between pilot and Next, since a next requires a great deal more reflexive control and g-force resistance. In 1st through 3rd generation, there are a lot of pilots who canonically break established AC conventions, which is how we can tell they are human plus, with the most obvious one to see during gameplay being that they can use shoulder mounted cannons on biped ACs without kneeling. You very well may be right on this, to be honest, it's just hard to say.
There will be flying. It just looks like there will be some limitations. It looks like regular 2 legged acs will fly. Quad legs are heavier so it looks like they have to transfor to stay in the air. And maybe the Jump pad is so tank legs can still traverse through the level. It looks to me like flying and fighting at the same time is going to be different from any ac game. All the flying combat shots look like your ac stays at same elevation as enemy.
@@aboveaveragegaming6120he best explanation for jump pads I could think of is to get a height boost without expending energy, which would have the result of extending your flight time. It would definitely be advantageous to tank builds, that's for sure, but every leg type could benefit from it.
check out 8:51 It seems that player is climbing up with booster after a OB move. What do you think about that? I even noticed that player's AC did a boostering up pose. So i think we might have a mixed booster control system from AC4 and AC5. For those enemy who don't have range weapon, maybe they have some special tools to attack player in the air.
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One reasonable doubt about the "no flight" concept is that in ACFA we had enemies like Stigro make being at certain elevations become another kind of dangerous for the player. Similarly, even then there was proximity responses to the enemies responding to you like being up close too long and an Assault Armor could pop under certain conditions of the right opponents. What I'm thinking is that weight as an influence to flight will mean something different in which case a tank may be extra insufficient to traverse certain obstacles as a comparison to say a reverse legged. I especially imagine we won't see Ultimate Weapons abused for limitless energy use until they time up, again like in ACV's speed running the first mission we'd see Hanged Man, and he's be sniping us.
Im gonna throw out a wild piece of speculation. The Boost Charge/Kick will be exclusive to Reverse Joints and Tanks to emphasize differences between the leg types like how it seems Quad Legs can altitude lock and hover. My other piece of speculation is you will be able to "Fly Free" its just it wont be like Armored Core For Answer where every build had effectively infinite boost even with the highest consumption boosters. The energy management will be much more deliberate. Also im assuming for most of their attacks bosses have the ability to aim them up or down to swat us out of the sky. So think of it more like, well, any of the series thats not For Answer, hell even Armored Core 4 had a semi restricted energy economy, For Answer just cranked everything to 11. As for the camera during that one boss if you kept looking after the initial quick boost, the AC begins to fly directly up and isnt tracking the boss at all, its staring straight forward the whole time till the last few frames in that clip where you can see its shoulder boosters flare up for a quick turn, which leads me to believe the camera was purely cinematics to keep the boss in focus for the trailer. Adding a camera like that as an actual gameplay thing would be incredibly jank as far as turning and controlling your AC are concerned but we'll have to wait to find out how it goes.
Im playing armored core for answer on emulator (first time playing an armored core game) because of the sixth coming out this year. I’ll be honest, when when i saw for the first time the announcment trailer of fires of rubicon i got hyped as hell, and now by whatching the gameplay trailer Im even more hyped. So i got interessed in “what really is armored core” and i ended up playing For Answer, cool game, but i hope that fires of rubicon will be more souls like than “original armored core” on both camera and bosses side: EXPECIALLY BOSSES. Maybe it’s because the age of the game, but to me for answer has no “real bosses”, no “real challenge”, idk it feels too easy, i personaly love the really high speed fight with other NEXT but the camera it’s something orrendous (i understand the “mecha thing” of need time to lock the enemy cause of the advanced weaponry, but i hope they’ll partilly remove this thing or sligtly improve it); I honestly hope that there will be a lock on like the souls games, simply to know always where is the enemy, and an overall better camera; then, OBVIOUSLY, REAL FROMSOFT BOSSES. Said that i’ll preorder fires of rubicon anyway, Im really confident on it, i think it will be a monstruous return of a series (even if the only AC i’ve played is For Answer on an emulator) because i know the modern FromSoftware and i trust them 100%, they just don’t miss🔥
i think that there will be full flight. the dev interview mentioned freely flying and in the scene with the missile spam ac you can see the player ac dodge twice and then start to rise right before the cut.
They said that this game would be most similar to V and older generations in speed* in an interview. I take that to mean the speed will be like V but with energy inefficient vertical boosting. The assault boost and platforms will probably be what makes movement most different compared to other titles. That said I'm a big fan of V so maybe I'm just biased
"between AC3 and AC5" is what the interview said. AC3 was pretty good and could get hectic, so this is probably a really reasonable pace. Considering how slow the sweeping attacks are I think vertical boosting isn't going to be real fast.
I am personally fine with them limiting our flying capabilities so long as they make it make sense within the game universe. Free flying can definitely make it extremely hard to design interesting boss designs. Maybe it's just me, but cool/awesome gameplay > free flying. But like i said, they gotta make it make sense in game. Maybe something like the bosses simply have attacks that make trying to free fly away from them very punishing. Or maybe something story related that has something to do with the new coral stuff. Idk. But so long as they make it make sense, i am chill with it
They didnt say it was going to be for casuals at all. They specifically said that they were adjusting the level design and the game's introduction so new players can more easily get into the most complex parts of the game (which implies that the most complex portions of the game will remain unchanged). This is the opposite of turning the game casual, it is making the game more accessible for newcomers to reach the most enjoyable and hardcore parts of AC6, which imo is the best way to do it
I think flight will be limited in most cases unless you really try and customize your mech to be able to fly for longer. You'll probably be able to fly whenever but it will take up a lot of energy. I don't know if they said this game was open world, but if it is, then this would make even more sense. It would invalidate part of exploration if you could just fly over all the enemies and locations without a cost.
about the flying part. im kinda happy we go away from ac 4s dash spamming bullshit where i am all over the screen and instead focus more on the ground. i will say tho i would have liked it if there were flying only missions that would give the AC 4 vibes because even tho i was not a fan of that in ac 4, in small bursts i feel like it would be awsome and give the whole speed/jetfighter vibes.
I'm sure there's gonna be nods to each game in different missions. Especially that "Borrowed Wings" line possibly implying a Vanguard Overboost mission
Combos in PvP could definitely be more of a thing in ACVI because your mech is likely FAR more durable than your Dark Souls character. Think more along the lines of a fighting game where you can survive multiple combos, but you don't have healing potions.
I strongly hope the Souls-style hard lock on isn't a thing, but to be honest, watching the footage myself of the two instances people often cite as evidence of a hard lock on, I actually don't think that's the case. The first instance with the reverse joint and that droideka MT looks a lot like a typical For Answer maneuver, and the camera does react sorta like that in For Answer as well. As for the boss AC with the missile cage, the camera movement doesn't look so much like hard lock-on as it does the player simply mid-air strafing while turning to keep facing the target. So many AC games, For Answer included, lets the AC player model shift way off center when strafing a target. It also could be similar to the auto-tracking setting that For Answer has that makes the camera shift on its own to make aiming easier. The big bosses with melee attacks are definitely Soulsy though, and I'm not necessarily opposed to that as I would be opposed to other Souls-like changes they could make. That's my take. Also, I can't help but think it's a little funny that Souls players love to brag so much about how hard their games are and they don't have any hand holding, yet those same people are so afraid of Armored Core doing the same thing. I just hope that AC isn't dumbed down. Tutorials are fine, dumbing stuff down isn't. Being a fighting game player, I despise that trend among modern fighting games.
The thing I'm most concerned about is the lack of vertical movement in the trailer. Multiple times they say we will be taking to the skies, but is that outside of combat? Also when it comes to having a souls lock system I think it will sadly. This is from an interview - Yamamura: Speaking of aiming, Armored Core 6 is a very action oriented game compared to the previous games. Therefore, rather than focusing on aiming, we will have to concentrate on the movements of the enemy, and on finding the right windows to attack. There will therefore be new elements related to this aspect. The bosses will be very different from previous Armored Cores. This seems to be enhanced by coral, and it's really scary
@@aboveaveragegaming6120 oof. Yeah, I dunno chief, if the lock on is Souls style I actually do think that will be a deal breaker for me. What's the point of guns if there's no aiming? Makes it sound like the game not being Soulsborne is just a straight up lie.
Im hoping the lock on is more 4/4a as it made the fov/ui far cleaner. So excited for the direction of this game, I suspect it will so amalgamation of 3/4/5 with Sekiro inspired stagger system.
The jump, honestly, could be to conserve energy. That said, some new movesets wouldn't be a bother. I grew up w/ Armored Core, from the first to the last, and think that including some aspects of Souls would revitalize AC. Some are going to like it. Some are not. However, it shouldn't detract from giving the game a fair shake.
My biggest fear over this is that it'll feel like what sekiro is to tenchu. Where the core of it is tenchu and you can see all of the little tenchu inspired mechanics. But it isn't tenchu, it just started as tenchu and evolved into something else.
At 22:48, he never said combos resulting specifically for a one shot move. You're thinking too much like a Soulsborne fan. What I'm imaging a weapon combo could work is maybe some weapons do more stagger damage, and you focus to get that stagger to land a hard to hit melee laser attack. Maybe the Pilebunker does ridiculous damage sure, but numbers can be tweaked. And I'm sure Fromsoft knows when to tone down a weapon when they know we can utilize it easier especially when we can immobilize an enemy via combo. Maybe there are more combos you can work into, but in the end I'm very sure there are no true one shot combos. Enemy ACs have a substantial health pool. Even the most fragile AC can take at least 5 or so melee laser attacks. Maybe these combos can one shot the normal mob enemies. Then great, it adds more nuance to gameplay and you can't spam these combos because unlike backstabbing in Souls games, AC needs ammunition management. Decent video overall, but the fact that you keep on being condescending to the "Casuals" but then make assumptions that are absolutely dumb really leaves a bad taste.
@@KABLAMMATS no verticality (as he mentions in the video we can jump glide and hover but potentially not fly freely, we'll have to see more to see if that's true) having a souls style lockon instead of either the traditional lockbox or the AC4 style lockon, having less health overall and a bigger emphasis on evasion, etc. Armored Core is not Dark Souls and it never should be, the two series are incredibly different and should stay that way.
@@Wind_Falcon Yes you can, you can't fly for long, but by pressing one button you can begin to move vertically and stop whenever you want. From the gameplay trailer people have been wondering if free flight won't be available, as we see jumping, gliding and hovering, but no gradual rise in height from just using the boosters. We won't know for certain until we get some more footage, though from some of the clips free flight does appear to be there.
@@Nineball459 "Free fly" I think of as in 4th Gen. The limited flying you get in Old Gen seems to be represented in the trailer in a couple of scenes. If you can hover and do air boosts like against that crazy missile enemy, seems to suggest you can air boost like in Old Gen. But really the game focusing more on and perfecting ground movement and sliding can be very good, since there's not a lot of momentum in the air, and momentum is always a fun mechanic. So you can't conclude that Old Gen limited flying is not in the game from this trailer, and if that is true it's not necessarily a bad thing. Game won't stop being or feeling like AC if it's more ground focused.
Personally I dig the more "grounded" combat Making a joke, but also, for real I like mech combat that slides on the ground and getting airborne is only temporary
maybe I'm reaching here but the guys who say " callsign ' Raven ' , Priority subject for termination, high on the list ", kind of sounds like stinger. but I could just be crazy. also the ac with the biblical angel amount of missile pods, its helmet also looks like stingers, but i cant exactly tell.
in old ac games i found it very inefficient to keep flying during AC fights.. i always jump boost a bit then come back to the ground.. in order to evade in both in horizontally and vertically... which is similar of what AC6 showcased in the trailer. i don't mind losing ability to fly very high.. at the end these are robots with legs and designed to fight mostly on ground tackling different challenges.. it's not ace combat game.
Also, if i have to be brutally honest (keep in mind i am an AC fan, silent line is my personal favorite) it might be a good thing if this doesn't play a lot like older AC games. As much as me and you love them, it is a niche and we are realistically a minority. They didn't do well over here for a reason and i don't think we should let our nostalgia shield us from embracing a good game and better direction* *Assuming it is a good game mind you, we will see.
it's so refreshing to see a breakdown of the gameplay trailer by an actual FAN of armoured core. I've seen a few other ones and they were all just disingenuous and completely surface level. All just "No, you DONT need to play every AC game before this one!" and "Look at the bosseeeesssssss! (FROM Software made elden ring guys did you know?)" and nothing else. I'm very glad we got at least 1 OG making videos here
@@aboveaveragegaming6120 The channel Writing for Games made a retrospective called" The Armored Core Series: A Newcomer's Journey". It is worth checking it out.
I don't mind bosses being a mix between Dark Souls and Traditional Armored Core Bosses, where you have to look out for their ranged attacks, but also aoe attacks that you're gonna have to dodge out of the way, but I pray they don't include a Lock-On System.
New theory: "Let's see how far they can fly on borrowed wings." Maybe they're returning to the stamina/energy meter limited boost... but certain missions start you out with the huge rocket booster attachments like from Armored Core 4. Flight is unlimited while attached, but it detaches after a certain distance ia reached.
The trailer had me hyped to the moon, but the potential of there being lock on has me worried. I can totally imagine it to be fun, but it would probably take away so much of what makes Amored Core Armored Core 🤔 But overall I trust From Soft, a new Amored core with different mechanics is still better than no new Armored Core 😌
I feel like "now they are making [AC6] now that they can afford it" is only half right. I think it was a perfect time for FromSoft to take a break from Dark souls because they are in a great spot in their franchise with Elden Ring, so instead they're using its success to pivot into Armored Core and hopefully gain even more ground on another franchise. Elden Ring is a huge project though, so I don't even know how feasible it would be to make a sequel or spiritual successor so soon. With FromSoft being in such a hot streak right now, I think their time is much more precious than money right now; It'll pay out in the long run if as long as continue to break expectations.
I'm willing to bet that flying is viable but you are incentivized to stay grounded because lateral acceleration is faster, and it costs enough EN that you are cutting into your reserves for QB.
Man, I hope free movement is present in this game, you got me spooked bro. That and the stupid "Balance Meter" They added in this. Souls Doesn't belong in Armored Core.
What do you mean by free movement? This legit looks like AC4 movement minus infinite flight. Which tbh was the worst part of the game because most levels you could just fly above everything and win.
The robot move in any way, man this look souly, like seriously? it a quick boost like in AC4 also no AC games gave you the possibility to fly freely, even AC4 you had to land at somepoint, also boss have sweep attack because heavier mech cant stay in the air that long, and people still get hit by them.
I'm happy if flight is more restricted to specific builds. To be blunt I don't like AC4 consent flight; your in a mech not a jet, you should have to use your legs sometimes.
You know by my user name i am very excited for this dam game already pre order it, I've played all armored core game I see your concerns but i do feel like it's the trailer i am sure we are going to be able to fly like eagle....or better yet. Raven 🌠
1:04 honestly i dont think this is a jump pad, to me it looks like the ac is just jumping/starting flight on top of some elevator platform which makes it look like a jump pad
I'm fine with no flying. Dunno if you guys followed the development of the game Anthem, but they basically sabotaged their own levels with the late addition of the flying mechanic. Just giving players more and more power isn't necessarily a good thing if the game isn't designed around it. Never been crazy about quick turns. They just make turning stats and legs more meaningless than they should be imo.
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Information from Playstation interview:
Assault Boost: One of the biggest new features in Armored Core VI is an instantaneous switch between long-range gunfighting and close-range melee, thanks to a button-activated movement skill called the Assault Boost.
there will be multiple endings to Armored Core VI’s narrative, with new paths opening up on subsequent playthroughs
Stagger: Another addition to the series’ combat is a “stagger” element: if an AC takes too many hits over a short period of time, its Attitude Control System will be overloaded, making it vulnerable for a short time.
I noticed that stagger during my analysis of the trailer, and got super excited. That sounds way better than the type of stunlock you'd previously get, like in AC2 Defend the Bridge, where if you got hit by those little flying MTs, they'd just hold you there and eat your AP for breakfast
I'm getting the vibe its going to have a real soft camera centering on an enemy when locked on at range (maybe only when right stick is neutral) at most, but in Assault Boost it becomes Soulsy and super centered. This works for me because it feels like a version of overboosting from 1-3 except actually practical (couldnt shoot or turn for shit during it). Watch it actually just be R3 to Assault boost, just like souls lockon. Kind of feels like a natural progression from the L3+R3 that forced you to straight line only.
Assault Boost really doesn't sound to me like a new feature to me, it just sounds like exactly what we think it is, Overboost. Unless they made it faster and shorter burst, but that would still just be a fast Overboost. I hope they'll elaborate on this because right now it doesn't sound at all like a new feature.
@@boufey5169 it sounds like a hot swap between a ranged mode, and a melee mode, based on the interviews.
@@rreckinreturns Just a weird way to phrase it imo
I think it's not impossible that some bosses might have a specific "no fly zone" attack, like a huge rack of AA missiles that makes flying extremely dangerous and allows them to design attacks on the assumption you'll be on the ground. Maybe i'm just huffing hopium because i really really want to see free flying from the old days return
i think not every AC is capeable of flying , i also think that the varity of options are way more than the ever before ALSO there will be a DLC anyway ;) AC4 was cool but AC4A was better , you get my point.
@LeoC launch pads *might* indicate that only some heavier ACs might not be capable of free flight, which is a balance decision i would be more or less alright with, and the pads are there to make sure you can't softlock a level with the wrong setup. Again, i'm aware this is some high-grade hopium but it's not entirely over yet
I think that the perfect lock on thing we see at 9:15 is also like soulsey but at the same time it coulld be kind of lime a headfunction like biolock
Opinions?
By the way, Vaati Vidya has uploaded a new video about Armored Core 6 and the AC series.
It may be worth react to!
@@Zamu273 In my eyes it looks like Zone of the Enders series combat, and I adore that game beyond belief.
The series has enough reboots, it seems more accurate to just call it an anthology series ala Final Fantasy
In regards of flying: It's entirely possible that you could boost straight up like in gen1-3, but it consumes so much energy that you can't just fly infinitely, but have to land to recharge.
one game fucked everyone up where armored core=flying. Build your shit better if that's what you want to do, sorry you can't have the heaviest weight capacity legs and float around dropping icbms on people, learn to drive
I'm just hoping I get a fast charging generator like in 4 so I can stay in the air for awhile
The jump pads could maybe be an accessibility feature for players who built their mechs so overweight that that they can barely even lift off the ground. So instead of being forced to restart when stuck in a mission where you can't boost over walls, you can find jump pads to progress. It could also mean that the size of buildings in the game are massive and it would take forever to just fly over them without a jump pad to assist to get to the top of them.
@@w1mark275 an overweight mech is something that i can see my friends and i definitely making so i hope your right
@@Sfhqr Yea personally I think it would be a cool idea because it would allow for more freedom of expression to choose your type of mech, for instance it could further emphasize that tank legs are not suitable for aerial combat but they could be exceptionally well on the ground. That said, I am personally doubtful about it, I feel like it's more likely just a way add more to levels and perhaps disguise loading screens. (If your mech takes 2 seconds to ascend a tower you can be assured the game is probably unloading all the stuff behind the player for a performance boost)
As long as the hud is nice and simple, that gameplay looks great.
No way. Gimme the PS2 era HUD. That was 😙👌 peak immersion.
100% 🤝
You can edit the hud, well in the previous tittle you can.
I want the ps2 hud.
PS2 HUD was peak tho imo
I don't really see how 2 bosses having sweeps invalidates flying considering we see flight with the overed weapon missile boat boss. The best guess is that flight isn't an easy infinite thing like in 4A but probably something more taxing.
It's really looks like will be something limited. In comparison with the older titles, more akin to V/Verdict Day but without the need for a structure to climb since you get launch in the air.
@@igodreamer7096 I was thinking more like 3rd gen AC
I the only one who remembers the arms forts from answer that are just a boat with a blade on it that you jump over, or those turtle things that you just him on and hang out in the vent and your safe? I feel like jumping over attacks isnt something new or revolutionary
@@Shadow-sword most people only remember Motherwill. And yeah jumping isn't revolutionary. I suspect most bosses will have a hail of machine gun/laser fire for if you fly which isn't as interesting for a trailer hence the missile boat being the only boss we see the player fly.
Yup, in most build you can only be airborne for a minute before needing to recharge before 4th gen(unless human+/OP-I). And from what i can see the only one that hovers in a fixed altitude are the quad with it special things, maybe each type of legs gor their own special things, tank got drift, quad got hover, and bi-ped both reverse and normal got better melee capabilities?
Nice pointing out the shoulders being in use at the same time as the same hand weapon. I imagine that there will be a button for each shoulder weapon and pressing it will either swap or use the weapon depending on the type.
I think the Assault Boost will add tracking while you stay within close range. Either that or we just auto-lock bosses. There's no way they put in a Souls lock-on for general combat.
Free flying doesn't necessarily contradict those boss animations if they simply make early game more grounded by only providing mediocre generators and energy expensive boosters with low lift. It's honestly really hard to tell without knowing how far into the game those specific fights are. My suspicion is that we're just going to have less lift in general to somewhat limit flying rather than the actual limited hovering that was in 5.
I almost wish they would release an Armored core Collection, at least from 3 to 5/Verdict day. Super excited for this game tho.
Imagine if they truly remastered the ps1 games. That would be crazy
@@aboveaveragegaming6120 yes. Been wanting old gen ports for years now. I want AC3 with analog sticks, especially. It would take the best mecha game of all time way too easily.
I'd be happy if they just introduced the titles to gamepass or playstation classics. There is so many deep cuts on the platforms from the old days i dont know how the entire series was overlooked just because of some publishing bureaucracy.
@@KeyboardBerserker-fi3ms Exactly. I'd love that. I check ps plus classics qll the time hoping they add some
I feel like Fromsoft has to perform a sort of balancing act with AC6. There's going to be veteran AC fans, but there's also going to be a large contingent of people (like me) who love Fromsoft for their recent catalog of Souls and Souls-like games. I feel like the large boss fights having a Souls feel and the expansion of melee combat is them trying to strike this balance. Either way, I'm sure this game will be even more divisive with those fans than Sekiro. Personally, I'm really excited to master a new combat system with radically different mechanics.
I think that the perfect lock on thing we see at 9:15 is also like soulsey but at the same time it coulld be kind of lime a headfunction like biolock in the older games
Opinions?
@Siberian yeah definitely
I look forward to it I just hope that the customisation is therem I rly like the AC lock on system specifically and at 9:15 that scene showed something Lknda yk suspicious. But imo Id be super happy if it was a head part function like in the older games like BioLock or something like that
@Siberian yea I think it will be fine, From Soft is a big name now as well so they do have to make the appeal to a general audience to a degree because all eyes are on them now. At the same time they can absolutely rack up the difficulty later because that's what they are known for.
Im an old fan of this game and I just wanted a fun mech game. When it comes to armorcore I'll be very happy with a similar one to armored Core 4 or armored Core 3 but I'm not opposed to them adding in some new features that may help the gameplay. I really want to see what they can do with modern technology and this older style game.
@@sirsnufflepuffson1647two words:
UNAC
POKEMON
I love how AC6 is a fusion of many favorite aspects of past games
The fast combat speed of 4th Gen
The extensive Missions of 3rd Gen
And the unique gimmicks of 5th Gen(Legs being even more specialized in 6th Gen remind me of how 5th Gen tried to do it but failed due to overall gameplay not the gimmicks themself being unnecesarily rough)
I don't mind if they don't have straight up flying if it means they can have more tightly designed environments and arenas. Flight was pretty much the reason almost every area in Armored core was like an open square field or a low-ceiling dungeon. Give me that creative environment design and I'll get over the flight.
I kind of interpreted his answer to the "how have you made the AC experience easier for new players" in the opposite way as you. He stressed that there's a careful onboarding process to get people used to the controls, NOT that the game overall is going to be easier or more forgiving. What that said to me was "we have not gone out of our way to make the gameplay any less complex or have any lower of a skill ceiling at the highest level, but we'll give you a bit of time to get used to it"
The argument that they wouldn't design the boss to have giant melee attacking arms is compelling at first but you have to consider that that hover move shown earlier in the trailer could just as well be deployed against it. So would they force you to use specific walker legs against it just so the boss works? Doubtful if you ask me, my bet is that like other commenters have said there are specific anti-air attacks that kind of disincentivize hanging around in the air all time.
Also, how would you ever board that giant walker mech shown earlier in the trailer unless you could fly. Hell the trailer opens with what looks to be gameplay of an AC flying through the air. I guess we won't really know until more information comes out. Maybe there'll be a more in-depth showing before release.
Another thing to take into consideration is that this trailer is by no means a representation of the final product, so those enemies with close ranged sweeping attacks might not even be the actual challenge, there could be other enemies that you're facing at the same time and perhaps the boss is just your final objective to destroy. Perhaps you'll even be able to throw enemies into the boss to scrap them so they act more as a environmental hazard rather than a boss. We have no clue if these are supposed to be like endgame bosses either, they could be enemies you face early on that you can trivialize by using basic movements as cannon fodder to get you more accustomed with the game or as bullet sponges to test out your powerful weaponry with.
In recent footage, that big arm boss spews out lots of rocks that make flying around dangerous
@@TheGallantDrake Yea in hindsight I should have just left it as a boss and moved on. But my main point was, enemies in games which don't look threatening at all can still achieve a goal or purpose. In this circumstance we just didn't see the entirety of the bosses' moveset. It has things that can be "threatening" to a player that can fly around a lot. This is my assumption, but it appears the fact that you can't boost around forever will be the main thing that bosses exploit to make them challenging.
That said, I think it'll be a mid-to-early game boss. I don't really think there's enough going on to make more than that. It could have a second phase or something though that makes the fight completely differnt, but I doubt that since it was a gameplay demo and it was mentioned that the other dev showcasing the game beat the boss which makes me think it probably a pretty short one.
The Quad legs seem to be a throwback to how they functioned in AC5/VD. Quads in those games could act as hovering gun fortresses because of their high AP and CE defense.
"Im still hyped for it" in the most monotone dead pan expression.
This game is looking like the best ideas from all armored core games coming together while still innovating with new ideas…. It’s insane, and the game looks so pretty too.
I hope we get ace combat style radio chatter in the missions.
From the first trailer I already assumed that this was gonna take elements from previous games the same way Elden Ring did for Souls and this trailer confirmed all of that for me and more. HYPE!!!
To me at least, It's like they're taking all of the best elements from AC3, AC4 and AC5 and adding a little bit of souls design cues in terms of the boss fights and some of the melee combat. Doesn't mean it mech souls or anything, they even said in an interview that while melee combat is more robust, the main focus is still going to be the gunfighting like it's always been.
Considering the new stagger system and assault boost mechanic, i dont think the pilebunker will be a one shot anymore, its bad game design to begin with. It sounds like the intended playstyle is to fire at range until an enemy gets staggered, and then use assault boost to dash forward and swap to melee weapons in a single button press so that you can finish off the enemy
Dude said in the interview that you can fly freely, don't worry bro
@LeoC energy in 3rd gen was not as much as 4th gen, the missions areas will be expanded a LOT, and this jump pads are there
@leoc5639 let's you get in the air without having to use energy is what I would assume.
@LeoC the primary idea is that flight is a possibility with certain builds, not an inherent. At least that's the main theory going around.
@LeoC From what I understand is that in previous games (except gen 4 I think) you couldn't sustain flight for very long without using a lot of energy. I imagine the launch pads are there for builds that aren't heavily built around flight to get in the air without using too much energy.
@LeoC launch pads are for tank types coz not all people like the gundam type mechs.
I just dont understand why they chose to go with a 30 fps English trailer for North America and Europe when the Japanese trailer is 60 fps. I ended up dubbing the English into the 60 fps trailer on my channel. It makes a huge difference.
Wow I did not noticed that!
Maybe to lower the hype on the west side lmao idk
But the Japanese voice acting is way better.
I'm just happy we are getting another Armored core Game with both 4 and 5 mechanics.
Every aerial flight path in the whole trailer has a clean horizontal trajectory which was impossible until gen 4 and even that required you to lower your thruster output until your vertical lift roughly matched with gravity. Also the maps have launch pads to give extra height in certain parts of the map. I think it’s safe to assume that air mobility will be ACV style.
Bro thats a twinblade at 6:58, likely a quickboost attack unique to it, just like how there are running attacks in ER, I think they added unique melee attacks right after a quickboost.
*This is just my own speculation* , Edit: After thinking about it a little more, it makes more sense that they just added charged attacks for melee.
While I can see your concerns for it being *too* soulslike, I want to just point out that having an autolock tracking system in a scifi-fantasy ultra advanced mech is completely believable. Your point about the boss not having weapons like that, the vibe I got was that these are industrial machines first, enemies second. So that boss looked like some kind of mining unit, with all those grinding/digging wheels. I will withhold judgement on the flying/hovering system until I play it and feel it. I don't think mech games *have* to have free flying, but it can be fun too so /shrug
I kept saying they needed to ground the combat more, to emphasize the functional differences in builds. But what's seen isn't enough to confirm that. Just jumping over an attack doesn't necessarily mean that they've hard grounded things. All it means, is that they're sticking closer to AC3 and AC5, which I also keep telling people that the game will be closer to AC3 than it will be to AC4/4A. But that should've been obvious looking at the first trailer and the aesthetic they've chosen for the parts.
It's also worth noting that in all the instances here, they weren't just purely "throwaway" encounters. And the info that has come out confirms that they've emphasized reading enemy type/patterns. Those were "Elite" enemies at worst, and maybe "Boss" encounters at best.
Something else I've suggested in the past, and maybe they've done, is "Plane Shifting" for flight, judging by the Quad. What I mean by "Plane Shifting" can be summarized by the function of Hover extensions in AC3/LR except as a mechanic instead of a benefit you get from a specific extension that almost nobody uses/wants to use. The Plane where you engage the "Hover" becomes the default Plane, the new ground level.
If people keep holding up AC4/FA and expecting this game to be anything close to it, they're going to be disappointed. It's AC3 and AC5, with some of the bells and whistles from AC4.
As someone who has become a fan of Fromsoft through the Souls games but never played an Armored Core game, the biggest excitement I have is just the change of game as it feels fresh from my point of view. Another is the fact that through listening to old school Armored Core fans is that you don't want to see a regression in mobility and more of an extension of AC4. Personally I'm hoping for a complete mixture, where fast and light flying mechs are better for certain missions while slow and heavy grounded mechs are better for other missions. Just that tactical element where you set the rules of your setup yourself, making it as easy or as hard as you want makes me feel that the single player content will be deep and highly replayable.
I never played 4 or 5 because I didn't have those consoles, but as long as we can glide in the air based on our energy availability like in the older games I'll be happy. Melee only oversized bosses do seem out of place though, as they can be easily kited...unless reasons...
Too bad that my dream of having quads being able to climb stuff like a spider didn't happen
I'd be willing to bet knowing FromSoft full flying will be totally possible, but probably not without building so heavily into that its kinda infeasible.
Yeah, that's pretty much every gen but 4th right there.
This is just an idea but perhaps the hovering with the quad legs is a way to stay stationary in the air without having to feather the boost button to keep your exact height. Like for instance you click the right analog stick and you hover in place. Or perhaps they added a lockon feature so that when you target an enemy in the air you stay in a fixed position, allow you to maneuver in relation to the locked target. The hovering feature could also be something exclusive to quad legs to perhaps give them unique movement options compared to other leg types. For instance, the tread legs will likely be able to maneuver quickly/drift on the ground, perhaps they want the quad legs to be the tank treads equivalent but when hovering in the air? (like tank drifting in hovercraft) It's possible that the hovering is a special energy-saving mode, where you're restricted in movement but it allows you to stay in the air longer or make energy weapons more viable. I assume that the reverse jointed mechs would have an increased jump height to make switching between ground and aerial combat quickly for the bunny hopping enthusiasts.
I also want to mention it's a nice transition in the trailer that they show the tank treads directly after the quad legs section. It gives the viewer a nice contrast in playstyles between grounded and aerial combat with the 2 heavier leg types.
in other games your character walks then runs depending how much you move the analog stick... i think in this game AC can walk but use thrusters right away on max speed automatically...
I'm wondering if they removed the walk all together to save a button
5:27 I'm pretty sure that's an MT or some kind of enemy there using the whip, not another AC. so it's not guaranteed the laser whip thing is actually usable by players
Yeah it's pretty obvious the player is the AC which the whip enemy is trying to hit, I don't understand how people aren't getting this.
1:22
This is all the proof that you need that flying exists, for the cool people in the comments that need it. To what extent can you fly? Who can say. I, for one, do not want gen 4 flying-- as much as I like gen 4, I don't need infinite flight that is handed out like candy. in gen 2 and 3 I think you could, but it would be very tough to do or might require human plus. I think considering the boss structure, some limit would probably be required, whether that's just the core mechanics or the boss/arena having a type of AA function. And by that, I don't mean that you won't be able to fly, but that you simply can't fly forever out the gate. I'm not against infinite or highly maneuverable flight, but I don't think them not displaying such means that the game is going to just be gen 5 again, which many people seem to not like I guess.
Sekiro has jumps too and it's the lead combat design for sekiro heading up the project . Could be that if u don't have any flying equipment u can still jump
Typically in AC, even if your build isn't suited for flying, you still require boosters. You can jump in all of them, but generally, the maximum is roughly the height of your AC.
8:55 is concerning. FCS and Manual Track is essential to armored core game in term of what set a pilot skill, without it i think it would be completely different and i mean for sword game sure... but for a game where guns are the primary option most of the time having lock on guns just remove any kind of gameplay skill requirement.
Lets just say if lock on gun exist the fight with zinaida where you have to manually track her in FCS and manage dodging nonstop would be very different...
this is probably just some hype editing by the team and not representative of the game itself. we have seen the trailer do some wacky camera angles.
this is likely A) all just for show to flex the dynamism of the combat or/and B) a hint at a camera system for taking screenshots during gameplay
This actually has me excited. It's just what I was hoping for tbh. Believe me, the producer of Sekiro isn't going to let this game get away with not having a huge skill ceiling bruhvs.
I am a huge fan of your work! Excited to see you review other mech-games throughout gaming history!
I saw the trailer and in the first 25 seconds they confirmed Human Plus when they said "augmented human". I relate this to DMC5 and how that was a love letter to all the fans across multiple games. AC6 will hopefully be the same; a very successful game of depth and replayability. The bosses are going to be what AC6 gets to stand out compared to other titles in the series. People will say Arms Forts but I never got on board with fighting a building.
Either human plus, or lynx tech
@@rreckinreturns I consider Lynx tech to just be canon human plus.
But human plus is 100% canon, yet human plus pilots never piloted nexts
Edit: that we know of, I should say
@@rreckinreturns 🤷♂️ Lynx tech was just a widely adopted evolved Human Plus that was a requirement to pilot Nexts. I don't recall any Human Plus being significant to the pilot stories or the overall story. Oh well.
@@thorinhannahs4614 see, I always thought of Lynx closer to that of Gundam pilots, where it sounded like a nervous system linkage between pilot and Next, since a next requires a great deal more reflexive control and g-force resistance. In 1st through 3rd generation, there are a lot of pilots who canonically break established AC conventions, which is how we can tell they are human plus, with the most obvious one to see during gameplay being that they can use shoulder mounted cannons on biped ACs without kneeling.
You very well may be right on this, to be honest, it's just hard to say.
Honestly, hope there will be flying, cause from what I've seen flying in 4 answer was awesome.
There will be flying. It just looks like there will be some limitations. It looks like regular 2 legged acs will fly. Quad legs are heavier so it looks like they have to transfor to stay in the air. And maybe the Jump pad is so tank legs can still traverse through the level. It looks to me like flying and fighting at the same time is going to be different from any ac game. All the flying combat shots look like your ac stays at same elevation as enemy.
@@aboveaveragegaming6120he best explanation for jump pads I could think of is to get a height boost without expending energy, which would have the result of extending your flight time. It would definitely be advantageous to tank builds, that's for sure, but every leg type could benefit from it.
check out 8:51
It seems that player is climbing up with booster after a OB move. What do you think about that? I even noticed that player's AC did a boostering up pose. So i think we might have a mixed booster control system from AC4 and AC5. For those enemy who don't have range weapon, maybe they have some special tools to attack player in the air.
Ya he does go up in elevation. Well just have to get our hands on the game
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Expect the most wacky builds and the most obnoxiously RGB colored player ACs to show up in Arena and still win. 😂
Basically Psychedelic from Armored Core 2
One reasonable doubt about the "no flight" concept is that in ACFA we had enemies like Stigro make being at certain elevations become another kind of dangerous for the player. Similarly, even then there was proximity responses to the enemies responding to you like being up close too long and an Assault Armor could pop under certain conditions of the right opponents. What I'm thinking is that weight as an influence to flight will mean something different in which case a tank may be extra insufficient to traverse certain obstacles as a comparison to say a reverse legged. I especially imagine we won't see Ultimate Weapons abused for limitless energy use until they time up, again like in ACV's speed running the first mission we'd see Hanged Man, and he's be sniping us.
Try not to call basic quick boosting away from an attack soulsy, Level: Impossible.
That drop pod scene is straight out of the armored core 2 intro i love it
I like ur photo
@@aboveaveragegaming6120 fanks
Im gonna throw out a wild piece of speculation.
The Boost Charge/Kick will be exclusive to Reverse Joints and Tanks to emphasize differences between the leg types like how it seems Quad Legs can altitude lock and hover.
My other piece of speculation is you will be able to "Fly Free" its just it wont be like Armored Core For Answer where every build had effectively infinite boost even with the highest consumption boosters. The energy management will be much more deliberate. Also im assuming for most of their attacks bosses have the ability to aim them up or down to swat us out of the sky.
So think of it more like, well, any of the series thats not For Answer, hell even Armored Core 4 had a semi restricted energy economy, For Answer just cranked everything to 11.
As for the camera during that one boss if you kept looking after the initial quick boost, the AC begins to fly directly up and isnt tracking the boss at all, its staring straight forward the whole time till the last few frames in that clip where you can see its shoulder boosters flare up for a quick turn, which leads me to believe the camera was purely cinematics to keep the boss in focus for the trailer.
Adding a camera like that as an actual gameplay thing would be incredibly jank as far as turning and controlling your AC are concerned but we'll have to wait to find out how it goes.
Im playing armored core for answer on emulator (first time playing an armored core game) because of the sixth coming out this year. I’ll be honest, when when i saw for the first time the announcment trailer of fires of rubicon i got hyped as hell, and now by whatching the gameplay trailer Im even more hyped. So i got interessed in “what really is armored core” and i ended up playing For Answer, cool game, but i hope that fires of rubicon will be more souls like than “original armored core” on both camera and bosses side: EXPECIALLY BOSSES. Maybe it’s because the age of the game, but to me for answer has no “real bosses”, no “real challenge”, idk it feels too easy, i personaly love the really high speed fight with other NEXT but the camera it’s something orrendous (i understand the “mecha thing” of need time to lock the enemy cause of the advanced weaponry, but i hope they’ll partilly remove this thing or sligtly improve it); I honestly hope that there will be a lock on like the souls games, simply to know always where is the enemy, and an overall better camera; then, OBVIOUSLY, REAL FROMSOFT BOSSES. Said that i’ll preorder fires of rubicon anyway, Im really confident on it, i think it will be a monstruous return of a series (even if the only AC i’ve played is For Answer on an emulator) because i know the modern FromSoftware and i trust them 100%, they just don’t miss🔥
i think that there will be full flight. the dev interview mentioned freely flying and in the scene with the missile spam ac you can see the player ac dodge twice and then start to rise right before the cut.
maybe the free flying issue is all because the translation.
i don't care
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They said that this game would be most similar to V and older generations in speed* in an interview. I take that to mean the speed will be like V but with energy inefficient vertical boosting. The assault boost and platforms will probably be what makes movement most different compared to other titles.
That said I'm a big fan of V so maybe I'm just biased
"between AC3 and AC5" is what the interview said. AC3 was pretty good and could get hectic, so this is probably a really reasonable pace. Considering how slow the sweeping attacks are I think vertical boosting isn't going to be real fast.
@@KeyboardBerserker-fi3ms that could be too, fast or inefficient, it could be either!
I am personally fine with them limiting our flying capabilities so long as they make it make sense within the game universe. Free flying can definitely make it extremely hard to design interesting boss designs.
Maybe it's just me, but cool/awesome gameplay > free flying. But like i said, they gotta make it make sense in game. Maybe something like the bosses simply have attacks that make trying to free fly away from them very punishing.
Or maybe something story related that has something to do with the new coral stuff. Idk. But so long as they make it make sense, i am chill with it
My wallet isn't ready for all the dlc parts they will have.
Flight to me looks like its going to be like 5, but with more mobility. I need to see exactly how Quads are going to work
Also as a slight addendum: AC 4 had a single target lockon, like Souls games. This feature was removed in AC 4A
They didnt say it was going to be for casuals at all. They specifically said that they were adjusting the level design and the game's introduction so new players can more easily get into the most complex parts of the game (which implies that the most complex portions of the game will remain unchanged). This is the opposite of turning the game casual, it is making the game more accessible for newcomers to reach the most enjoyable and hardcore parts of AC6, which imo is the best way to do it
I think that the perfect lock on thing we see at 9:15 is also like soulsey but at the same time it coulld be kind of lime a headfunction like biolock.
Absolutely you can fly. There are a few seconds of flying in the new trailer .
Another FYI: The game will cost 60 dollars.
It will launch on the same day as the International Crows and RAVENS Appreciation Day.
Well, we do deserve some appreciation. Raven's Nest, and Nerves Concord Gang. Lol
Maybe you can still freely fly, but won't be able to have infinite energy regen. That could be a perk for the quad legs hover mode.
with that flying speed it just a flying target saw those MT can't hit its target in trailer was funny as fuck
I think flight will be limited in most cases unless you really try and customize your mech to be able to fly for longer. You'll probably be able to fly whenever but it will take up a lot of energy. I don't know if they said this game was open world, but if it is, then this would make even more sense. It would invalidate part of exploration if you could just fly over all the enemies and locations without a cost.
about the flying part. im kinda happy we go away from ac 4s dash spamming bullshit where i am all over the screen and instead focus more on the ground. i will say tho i would have liked it if there were flying only missions that would give the AC 4 vibes because even tho i was not a fan of that in ac 4, in small bursts i feel like it would be awsome and give the whole speed/jetfighter vibes.
I'm sure there's gonna be nods to each game in different missions. Especially that "Borrowed Wings" line possibly implying a Vanguard Overboost mission
There was seemingly still some elements of QB in the trailer, but it does look like a more grounded experience overall. I'm excited
Combos in PvP could definitely be more of a thing in ACVI because your mech is likely FAR more durable than your Dark Souls character. Think more along the lines of a fighting game where you can survive multiple combos, but you don't have healing potions.
your channel is awesome man. Thanks for the video
I strongly hope the Souls-style hard lock on isn't a thing, but to be honest, watching the footage myself of the two instances people often cite as evidence of a hard lock on, I actually don't think that's the case. The first instance with the reverse joint and that droideka MT looks a lot like a typical For Answer maneuver, and the camera does react sorta like that in For Answer as well. As for the boss AC with the missile cage, the camera movement doesn't look so much like hard lock-on as it does the player simply mid-air strafing while turning to keep facing the target. So many AC games, For Answer included, lets the AC player model shift way off center when strafing a target. It also could be similar to the auto-tracking setting that For Answer has that makes the camera shift on its own to make aiming easier. The big bosses with melee attacks are definitely Soulsy though, and I'm not necessarily opposed to that as I would be opposed to other Souls-like changes they could make. That's my take.
Also, I can't help but think it's a little funny that Souls players love to brag so much about how hard their games are and they don't have any hand holding, yet those same people are so afraid of Armored Core doing the same thing. I just hope that AC isn't dumbed down. Tutorials are fine, dumbing stuff down isn't. Being a fighting game player, I despise that trend among modern fighting games.
The thing I'm most concerned about is the lack of vertical movement in the trailer. Multiple times they say we will be taking to the skies, but is that outside of combat? Also when it comes to having a souls lock system I think it will sadly. This is from an interview -
Yamamura: Speaking of aiming, Armored Core 6 is a very action oriented game compared to the previous games. Therefore, rather than focusing on aiming, we will have to concentrate on the movements of the enemy, and on finding the right windows to attack. There will therefore be new elements related to this aspect.
The bosses will be very different from previous Armored Cores. This seems to be enhanced by coral, and it's really scary
@@aboveaveragegaming6120 oof. Yeah, I dunno chief, if the lock on is Souls style I actually do think that will be a deal breaker for me. What's the point of guns if there's no aiming? Makes it sound like the game not being Soulsborne is just a straight up lie.
Im hoping the lock on is more 4/4a as it made the fov/ui far cleaner. So excited for the direction of this game, I suspect it will so amalgamation of 3/4/5 with Sekiro inspired stagger system.
The jump, honestly, could be to conserve energy. That said, some new movesets wouldn't be a bother. I grew up w/ Armored Core, from the first to the last, and think that including some aspects of Souls would revitalize AC. Some are going to like it. Some are not. However, it shouldn't detract from giving the game a fair shake.
My biggest fear over this is that it'll feel like what sekiro is to tenchu. Where the core of it is tenchu and you can see all of the little tenchu inspired mechanics. But it isn't tenchu, it just started as tenchu and evolved into something else.
At 22:48, he never said combos resulting specifically for a one shot move. You're thinking too much like a Soulsborne fan. What I'm imaging a weapon combo could work is maybe some weapons do more stagger damage, and you focus to get that stagger to land a hard to hit melee laser attack. Maybe the Pilebunker does ridiculous damage sure, but numbers can be tweaked. And I'm sure Fromsoft knows when to tone down a weapon when they know we can utilize it easier especially when we can immobilize an enemy via combo.
Maybe there are more combos you can work into, but in the end I'm very sure there are no true one shot combos. Enemy ACs have a substantial health pool. Even the most fragile AC can take at least 5 or so melee laser attacks. Maybe these combos can one shot the normal mob enemies. Then great, it adds more nuance to gameplay and you can't spam these combos because unlike backstabbing in Souls games, AC needs ammunition management.
Decent video overall, but the fact that you keep on being condescending to the "Casuals" but then make assumptions that are absolutely dumb really leaves a bad taste.
He might be thinking in terms of older gen blades, which when using the strongest blades could rip through enemy AP in a few swings
2:07 put those foolish fears to rest
I'm really hoping for some unedited gameplay showing some more detail on the mechanics cause I really don't want this game to be super soulsy
Too bad is super soulsy, wth that even mean lmao
@@KABLAMMATS no verticality (as he mentions in the video we can jump glide and hover but potentially not fly freely, we'll have to see more to see if that's true) having a souls style lockon instead of either the traditional lockbox or the AC4 style lockon, having less health overall and a bigger emphasis on evasion, etc.
Armored Core is not Dark Souls and it never should be, the two series are incredibly different and should stay that way.
@@Nineball459 You can't free fly in most AC games though.
@@Wind_Falcon Yes you can, you can't fly for long, but by pressing one button you can begin to move vertically and stop whenever you want. From the gameplay trailer people have been wondering if free flight won't be available, as we see jumping, gliding and hovering, but no gradual rise in height from just using the boosters.
We won't know for certain until we get some more footage, though from some of the clips free flight does appear to be there.
@@Nineball459 "Free fly" I think of as in 4th Gen. The limited flying you get in Old Gen seems to be represented in the trailer in a couple of scenes. If you can hover and do air boosts like against that crazy missile enemy, seems to suggest you can air boost like in Old Gen. But really the game focusing more on and perfecting ground movement and sliding can be very good, since there's not a lot of momentum in the air, and momentum is always a fun mechanic.
So you can't conclude that Old Gen limited flying is not in the game from this trailer, and if that is true it's not necessarily a bad thing. Game won't stop being or feeling like AC if it's more ground focused.
Personally I dig the more "grounded" combat
Making a joke, but also, for real I like mech combat that slides on the ground and getting airborne is only temporary
maybe I'm reaching here but the guys who say " callsign ' Raven ' , Priority subject for termination, high on the list ", kind of sounds like stinger. but I could just be crazy. also the ac with the biblical angel amount of missile pods, its helmet also looks like stingers, but i cant exactly tell.
in old ac games i found it very inefficient to keep flying during AC fights.. i always jump boost a bit then come back to the ground.. in order to evade in both in horizontally and vertically...
which is similar of what AC6 showcased in the trailer.
i don't mind losing ability to fly very high.. at the end these are robots with legs and designed to fight mostly on ground tackling different challenges.. it's not ace combat game.
Also, if i have to be brutally honest (keep in mind i am an AC fan, silent line is my personal favorite) it might be a good thing if this doesn't play a lot like older AC games.
As much as me and you love them, it is a niche and we are realistically a minority. They didn't do well over here for a reason and i don't think we should let our nostalgia shield us from embracing a good game and better direction*
*Assuming it is a good game mind you, we will see.
It will be a good game I have also my doubt on them when they are making sekiro but it just proved me wrong
Well they did mention Raven in the trailer so maybe human+ is in it, primal armor is also in the game so why not.
it's so refreshing to see a breakdown of the gameplay trailer by an actual FAN of armoured core. I've seen a few other ones and they were all just disingenuous and completely surface level. All just "No, you DONT need to play every AC game before this one!" and "Look at the bosseeeesssssss! (FROM Software made elden ring guys did you know?)" and nothing else.
I'm very glad we got at least 1 OG making videos here
Lol I'd love to watch those videos if you give me the name of their channel.
@@aboveaveragegaming6120 The channel Writing for Games made a retrospective called" The Armored Core Series: A Newcomer's Journey". It is worth checking it out.
I don't mind bosses being a mix between Dark Souls and Traditional Armored Core Bosses, where you have to look out for their ranged attacks, but also aoe attacks that you're gonna have to dodge out of the way, but I pray they don't include a Lock-On System.
New theory: "Let's see how far they can fly on borrowed wings."
Maybe they're returning to the stamina/energy meter limited boost... but certain missions start you out with the huge rocket booster attachments like from Armored Core 4. Flight is unlimited while attached, but it detaches after a certain distance ia reached.
The opening scene is a homage to AC2 opening scene, you entering from the orbit with a space ship
@@KABLAMMATS so glad I wasn't the only one who thought this
the boss fights are concerningly darksoul
The trailer had me hyped to the moon, but the potential of there being lock on has me worried. I can totally imagine it to be fun, but it would probably take away so much of what makes Amored Core Armored Core 🤔
But overall I trust From Soft, a new Amored core with different mechanics is still better than no new Armored Core 😌
I feel like "now they are making [AC6] now that they can afford it" is only half right. I think it was a perfect time for FromSoft to take a break from Dark souls because they are in a great spot in their franchise with Elden Ring, so instead they're using its success to pivot into Armored Core and hopefully gain even more ground on another franchise. Elden Ring is a huge project though, so I don't even know how feasible it would be to make a sequel or spiritual successor so soon. With FromSoft being in such a hot streak right now, I think their time is much more precious than money right now; It'll pay out in the long run if as long as continue to break expectations.
I'm willing to bet that flying is viable but you are incentivized to stay grounded because lateral acceleration is faster, and it costs enough EN that you are cutting into your reserves for QB.
Man, I hope free movement is present in this game, you got me spooked bro. That and the stupid "Balance Meter" They added in this. Souls Doesn't belong in Armored Core.
What do you mean by free movement? This legit looks like AC4 movement minus infinite flight. Which tbh was the worst part of the game because most levels you could just fly above everything and win.
The robot move in any way, man this look souly, like seriously? it a quick boost like in AC4 also no AC games gave you the possibility to fly freely, even AC4 you had to land at somepoint, also boss have sweep attack because heavier mech cant stay in the air that long, and people still get hit by them.
I'm happy if flight is more restricted to specific builds. To be blunt I don't like AC4 consent flight; your in a mech not a jet, you should have to use your legs sometimes.
"Awareness of the cAsuals" Lol you're killing me
5:41 my guess, its some kind of Dune reference much like when Coral was referred to as Melange.
Funny brvause yesterday we had our first look at Dune: Part 2 movie.
Honestly i think specific sections will be flying others will be grounded.
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So glad they didn't listen to people trashing on v and verdict because I love those games.
So excited after seeing the trailer.
I was half expecting you to do this video wearing a tux XD
stun is the biggest thing for AC
I hope the game can be used as a gunpla substitute. 😂😂😂
I'm just waiting on August 23rd I'm going to do a $300 deep dive accessories and add-ons I don't care I'm buying it take my money please
You know by my user name i am very excited for this dam game already pre order it, I've played all armored core game I see your concerns but i do feel like it's the trailer i am sure we are going to be able to fly like eagle....or better yet. Raven 🌠
7:57 This looks an Souls targeting system.
1:04 honestly i dont think this is a jump pad, to me it looks like the ac is just jumping/starting flight on top of some elevator platform which makes it look like a jump pad
Idk, it has a particle effect which looks almost identical to elden ring.
I wish they just let you fly up tho
I'm fine with no flying. Dunno if you guys followed the development of the game Anthem, but they basically sabotaged their own levels with the late addition of the flying mechanic. Just giving players more and more power isn't necessarily a good thing if the game isn't designed around it.
Never been crazy about quick turns. They just make turning stats and legs more meaningless than they should be imo.
I think the publisher was ubisoft