Haha Bret Fart thinks he would be the leader of the Kliq. Bret Farts lies just get worse everytime they put him with a mic. He's just dragging and changing stories. Now suddenly him and Shawn were friends 1995, when Bret first say they hated eachother. Bret Fart - The Exellence of Excuses.
To be fair, Shawn's talents were so obvious, that you would really look stupid if you said he was a bad worker. Now he may have been total dick, but phenomenal in the ring.
@@richdude8150 Yea, why not screw over the young kid who is finally getting his shot? I felt so bad for Taker on that one. i think he was legit scared his chance at the main event was over and done. Which it kinda was after the Jake match at WM8.
Like Shawn, he wanted change within the company. No silly gimmicks or silly storylines,they made wrestling real and were part of the attitude era.or at least started it.
I can only imagine if Bret joined forces and hung out with those guys. People say wrestling wasn't shit 93-96 (outside of ECW) but the Kliq were over as hell. Outside of Bret and Taker they were the business. And Undertaker was in the process of developing his legacy as locker room leader and boss. Those years he was just another guy. But you can't deny if you were a fan of wrestling during those dark times, you were a fan of the Kliq wrestlers
Lenin also warned the Communists about Stalin taking over and that Stalin was way too unstable and crazy. Eisenhower warned the US about the military industrial complex on his way out, and that it would lead to fake wars and bloodshed for money. Both were right.
No disrespect.. But in my opinion having Bret as the leader of the Kliq would Not have worked because sometime down the road Shawn and Bret would have bumped heads in a bad way.. If it would of happened i think it would have been short lived..
They bumped heads anyway, even with him not in the "Cliq." Bret Hart fit better with his family. You're right, but I think the Hart Foundation was way better for wrestling professionally. DX was just a couple of adults acting like little kids with a woman who looked like a man. What foreshadowing... Bret and Shawn made the business the best. Eventually, Bret's professionalism and Shawn's immaturity crossed each other. Easily the best performers of the 90s easily.
"A convenience when needed, but an inconvenience when not," is probably the best description of Vince McMahons' attitude towards Bret. Unlike Stone Cold, The Rock, or Hulk Hogan, Vince never came around to seeing Bret as a "Main Eventer," the fans did, but not him.
Shawn did work with Kevin Nash the PPV after WM12. However, then he never worked a PPV match with Nash, Hall, HHH or Waltman again. Hence if the plan was to just work with his buddies, the plan didn't work out very well.
@@Luminator_maior I do wonder if HHH woulda worked with Shawn had the Curtain Call never happened. Remember he was slated to be King of the Ring before that, and Austin I think got a shot or two after he won it.
Bret talks about all of this in his autobiography as well. And I too remember as a kid thinking "How come Bret seems to be getting downplayed even though he's the champion?" as Shawn was getting all of the attention.
Agreed. That setup with Shawn Michaels doing his Rocky Balboa training stuff was weird. Also, it seems that Kevin Nash's suggestion that Bret Hart take the powerbomb during their cage match, and Bret's rejecting of it, has more meaning now.
I was 9 years old when the match happened and I thought the same as you. I was so disappointed when Bret lost. Even as a kid, I never cared for Shawn Michaels. I always liked Bret Hart, Diesel and Razor Ramon.
Kind of interesting how Bret's concept of the Clique's master plan of taking over the company actually came to pass with HHH getting in with the family, and HBK staying close with him for all these years. It makes me wonder if that story is true, or if Bret is projecting the current reality onto his memory of past events.
It's not the first time it has happened in the wrestling business. Buddy Roger's gang ran Bruno out of new York and almost killed the wwwf, flair had his little group that followed him around and if you didn't buddy up with him or kiss his ass he wouldn't put you over. Hogan's got his little group he came to WCW with as well and ran out some of the younger guys, namely Austin.
A lot of what he is saying is at least vaguely, or factually true. I remember they did do that bit with Owen and the insiguri on Shawn, Shawn fainting and taking time off. They were building Shawn up, but how much of that was just business, or whether or not it was favoritism, well, it's pretty obvious if you go back and watch the tape. Vince is really putting over Shawn hard here, and it's a time when WCW is starting, just before they had a 2 year old on the ratings, Vince could feel the heat, so he was probably trying to get Shawn over AMAP, ASAP. That his 2 buddies left town probably goes against what Bret is saying here more than anything. Hall and Nash were out for money, not simply gold. Whether Shawn wanted to work with his friends or not, they were gone.
Funny thing is 10 years before the Cliq, there was another cliq to a lesser degree. That was the Stampede boys, including Bret Hart. Main difference is Hulk Hogan was there, so they couldn’t hog Vince’s ear.
And just like Shawn and Co., they were the workhorses counted on to have the main event the matinees that Hogan was on thruought his big run. If you saw Hogan match 3, they knew they needed Bret batting cleanup in the 8th Match.
Still my favorite wrestler. He never sold himself out, never sold his integrity even when he could have made way more money (like Hall and Nash, or Hogan). An irascible perfectionist but a faultless ring general and irreplaceable talent.
*8:31* Bret: "Look at how old and tired Bret Hart looks." At that time, I was wondering if Vince wanted to put Shawn over because of the 8 year age difference between him and Bret. Bret was 38 going on 39. I had much respect for his athleticism and professionalism--still do. Yet from what I've read, Vince tended to favor the younger roster as well as their looking younger. Shawn just didn't convince me that he was a professional.
Kliq story is bullshit.. the name kliq was a name given to them by Davey boy, it wasn't something they came up with, Kevin Nash even said that never happened
Brett still doesn't understand the Kip formation wasn't about belts or pre-determined matches, it was about pushing for. changes in the whole wrestling salary structure. Wrestlers in the mid-1990s were still making peanuts compared to the value and revenue they were bringing in. The only one to the exception was Hogan. Hart is salty because Vince played him, he wrestled for less than he was supposed to get to market value, he did that just to be loyal to Vince, and then McMahon still screwed him. Scott Hall went to Vince many times asking for a raise but he didn't have leverage because the hitman worked for cheap. Hall decided to explore his options then WCW entered the picture and he got the salary he wanted in the first place. Nash then heard about this and jumped ship. I still chuckle at Brett's comments he thinks what he did was Olympic wrestling or the real stuff. The two guys Vince brushed off and ignored their salary demands played a significant role in WCW's rise and almost put Vince out of business.
It wasn't about the money for Bret. It was about having the belt. He had an ego every bit as large as Michaels. The difference was Bret didn't act like an asshole,Shawn did.
This, if the Kliq was really that tight and only cared about belts and prestige, why did half of them leave for WCW? Hall said it himself, I’ll let you pin me all day if there is a paycheck involved.
@@jonharrison9222it isn’t as much as you’d think though when you factor in travel and accommodation wasn’t included and they had to fund that themselves, Austin said he always tried to room with Foley because he knew that Foley would find the cheapest, nastiest motel in town to bank as much as he could 😂😂
@@mikeg2491You are correct about half of tbe kliq leaving for WCW for the money. The belts were still important though to have. Bret said it himself, the champion and his opponent got paid equally or fairly close. If Shawn is champion, and he wrestles Scott Hall then both get that pay. Before the guaranteed contracts, that would be big. They could wrestle together, and cycle through each other. Hogan did that with many wrestlers with the exception of losing the title. The problem was while business was never Hogan level at the time, Bret drew more $$$ for the company at that time than Shawn, HHH, Hall, and Nash; especially, outside the states. It's why he kept getting the belt back. Not until Hall and Nash left for WCW did they get the high paydays. Then the NWO angle exploded, and they really started drawing houses. Ironically, they were paired with Hogan. HHH became the big draw during the attitude era by being the guy who could feud with Austin, Rock, and Foley
I believe Nash has discredited this story, and says they never asked Bret to be part of the Kliq. Also, Shawn didn’t sit at home for 3 months leading up to WM 12. He worked the Rumble in Jan, and worked a program with Owen that concluded at the IYH PPV the month before WM. I’m not sure if Shawn was working as many house shows as Bret was during that time, but Shawn was definitely not on vacation for 3 months.
I honestly side with Bret in this. The fact that Bret had to constantly get the belt off of Yokozuna and Diesel back in the 90s almost felt like he was just holding the belt until they found someone else. Like just imagine if Bret held the belt from the forst time he got it to 96. There would be much more of an imapct imo
Bret is probably very proud of the work he put into the match and being able to keep his conditioning to a peak level, but this is my least favorite Bret vs. Shawn match. As for Bret matches, not even a top five. He had the best matches, ones that I still look forward to rewatching. His match against Austin the following year tops any match he ever had with Shawn. Just my opinion.
Michaels is on record saying he asked the Undertaker about that story and Undertaker denied it. Cornette said it sure,but Cornette is a highly volatile guy who hates Michaels.
Calling BS on Shawn asking Bret to lead the Kliq. Michael’s was leader of the kliq why would he give that up? I’ve never heard anyone else say this before. And they know Bret would tell Vince anyway
Actually that was told before too,it didn’t help Bret and Shawn’s friendship which was non existent eventually,Shawn asked Bret to join,then asked if he would lead,if Bret joined and led the clique they’d have had more power over Vince and lots of the other guys in the locker room because Bret had respect from all of his peers
Hands down the greatest professional wrestler of all time. Bret had an amazing combination of being the best technical wrestler and being passionate about the business. When you are passionate about something and super talented at it then you should excel in life.
He didn't want to take Nash's finish because it made him look week before Mania. As Taker would say, "It's not all about you." It's to build Taker and Diesel's feud. I'm a huge fan of Bret's work but I don't agree with how he thought he was perceived. I knew he would take it to Shawn. He is one of the best wrestlers in my book, but I don't think Bret was being buried at that time. Perhaps a transitional champion for Shawn, sure. Whether they worked him too hard on purpose; Only Vince truly knows if there was a plan.
Don't you think taking nash' finish and being a beaten man for only the undertaker to drag nash down and bret who was a FACE win in a cowardly fashion right BEFORE MANIA makes him look weak? Going in against HBK who had just wont he rumble ? I can totally see why this would devalue the huge FACE v FACE match.
Not trying to be an asz so correct me if I'm wrong, but he's saying WWF wanted to make him look tired for wrestlemania by giving him big, tough opponents. But then he was able to train bc they were only putting him in triple threat matches where he could rest. Well did they want to make you tired or let you rest? Kinda gives credence to Nash's story where even Taker had to tell him it's "not all about Brett". Seems like the guy is/was really in his own head. Like hearing his stories though.
@devangpatel5227 Cool, but which one? That he was being worked over to make him tired for mania or that he was given triple threat matches so he could rest for the great match?
A lot of ≠ only in. Plus, you seem to have missed the part where he said "i wrestle everyday for the next 3 months". So there were triple threats and the singles matches with the likes of Taker, Yoko, Nash, etc. If you guys wanna hate on Bret do it, even say that he only complains in interviews since that's true, but dont bring BS by hearing half of the interview.
@@kaitoivánARG aren't you literally just doing that yourself in most comment sections I see you post u in? Bringing in BS, talk about being a hypocrite. Bret fans are some special breed
In my opinion bret was the best i would say early 90s cause of timing. Always been one of the best at technical wrestling. One of the best to me. But even better for the fact of at a time where hogan was leaving and other stuff going on he took the ball and ran with it. Became a hero when one was greatly needed. For that i say thank you bret.
Bret Hart..... The man I grew up loving..... But once grown, I seen.....this man let the Industry run him, almost as if Vince said all the right things to make Bret Hart take that lifetime deal.
You can't really argue Bret was any worse at putting guys over than anyone else if you look at that 95-96 stretch. He looks horrible from winning the title at SS to then losing it at Wrestlemania. I always thought the build up to the Iron Man match was stupid, anyway. It's fine if they wanted to try Shawn as champ, but it was completely obvious that it was going to be his coronation event. You knew Bret wasn't winning.
Bret was a hypocrite ..... in the sense that when Vince made him the champ in 94 Bret pushed to work with Owen .... and also pushed for the rest of his family to be included. But when it was Shawn's turn to have a run with the title and wanted to do the same thing but with his best friends, Bret had a problem with that.
Considering Owen and Bret had the best opening match in WM history and their feud practically wrote itself, you’d have to be a moron not to run with it.
@@jonharrison9222 Considering Bret/Owen ended up being overshadowed by Shawn/Razor .... another feud that wrote itself, you'd also have to be a moron not to run with Shawn and Razor but with higher stakes.
The thing I love about Bret and someone like Cornette is that they keep personal and business Shawn separate. They both always put him over in the ring. Shawn always says the same about Bret too.
I really thought this guy moved on. Does he realize how bitter he sounds? It made no sense for Shawn to tell Bret Hart what he was going to do after he wins the title. Most likely he didn't tell him he was going to wrestle only his buddies because that's not what happened. Also considering that Shawn at the very worst is top 3 performer of all time and possibly the very best. His win loss record was never that important to Shawn or the rest of the Kliq. It was about making more money. Scott Hall was very open about it. Money was the reason Hall and Nash left to WCW. They realized early that you more often than not come out looking better putting someone else over. Fans are not stupid. Shawn was suppose to go over Kurt Angle after weeks of getting humiliated by Angle who would then get his comeuppance but Shawn thought Angle should go over because he was younger. Shawn still looked great working with Kurt Angle even though he was on the losing end. Also Shawn Michaels was called MR WrestleMania even though he had a losing record in WrestleMania. I wonder if Bret will ever realize how silly he was being so concerned with winning matches. I think Bret looked the best when he put his brother Owen over. Which brings me to the last point. Nothing wrong with working with your friends when you know you have a better chance to have a great match and not get hurt. I remember Bret wrestling his family and friends just as much as Shawn worked with his friends. I think deep down Bret Hart wishes he had more programs with Shawn Michaels, which never happened because Bret insisted on not just beating HBK but breaking his leg and giving him the middle finger. Not surprisingly Shawn decided to go in a different direction.
I love Bret but them supposedly coming to him not just asking him to be part of the kliq but that they want HIM to be the "head guy" C'mon.... If ANYTHING they wanted him to play that ROLE so if Vince or anyone else wasn't having any of that (essentially them starting their own weird "union") then Bret would be the one to take the heat "Oh hey we were just following BRET...BRET is our "head guy" Knowing the way those dudes were complete high school "mean girls" at that time, they just saw Bret as a mark. And again, Bret is my all time favorite wrestler but the way he tells that one, seemingly convinced that they really wanted him to be their shot caller lol... nah, if that part is true (and I don't really take Bret as a liar) it was what I said, they wanted to scapegoat him for sure. I'm sure Nash has his side of this story I gotta look that up, I'm sure it's old news but I don't follow anything like I used to.
That doesn't sound paranoid at all… Also, the reason Diesel didn't really work out as champion isn't because Nash wasn't ready, but because as soon as they gave him the belt, they turned him from angry badass to smiling moron…
Bret is correct that Nash was not ready wrestling-wise. In terms of character, your assessment is correct. He was the cool badass which was getting him over. Then they turned him into a generic white meat baby face which wasn't interesting.
I always felt Nash beating Backland at a house show was a horrendous start to a title reign. He should have beat Bret or Taker or anyone worth a damn at a big four PPv would have at least given him a chance. But tuning in and finding out he just was champion was lame.
I love Brett, but he's all over the map with this one. First, he's saying Vince set him up to look bad for the Iron Man match by running him into the ground against big, physical dudes in the lead-up. Then, later, he's saying that he was actually in a bunch of triple threats where he could dog it and save himself for the Iron Man.
He was referring to getting basically beat by Taker and Diesel on back to back PPVs going into WM12 where he was expected to make Shawn the new big star, while simultaneously having him in an iron man match where Shawn got to stay home and work out while Bret had to stay on the road and not be able to properly prepare for a 1hr match.
@@bornfromforeign um, because he was part of the Kliq, believe it or not, not everything Bret says is true, I know, shocking but that's the problem with die hard fans
@@Jcrash71believe it or not, not everything Nash says its true, i know, shocking but that's the problem with die hard fans. Im not a die hard fan but i believe Bret in this one, since it makes sense and it doesnt stink ego unlike most of what Nash says.
@@kaitoivánARG believe it or not, copying my post and trying to mock me doesn't make what Bret has claimed is true That's the problem with die hard fans and your reasoning as to why you believe Bret over Nash is honestly so bad. You tried though😂 Another problem with Bret fans and imagine believing Bret doesn't have an ego
Bret has lied about his stories over the years, claimed he never hurt anyone but Bad News Brown confirmed he gave him a concussion, lied about receiving more fan mail than Hogan throughout the 80s but his fans lack critical thinking and believe what he always says is "true" to them and lied about Nash asking him to be part of the Kliq. The celebrity worshipping is a serious illness and I hope they receive help
Man... I love bret, he will always be the goat in my opinion. However, it would do him some good to forgive and REALLY let go. He said that he's over Montreal. yet afte listening to a few of these shoot interviews I get the impression that bret is still in his own head , replaying and getting worked up all over again when detailing events that possibly could have not even been part of any plan tobtakr him down.
I love Bret but I very much disagree regarding the Iron Man match. The way it played out, it became a giant snoozefest, that ended up having fans try to 'beat the traffic'. What they should have had, was a straight up wrestling match, that would end in a time limit draw. Then you could do the sudden death overtime with some validity too. The way they did it, you quickly became disengaged and started to tune out.
As much as i love and respect bret hart he is fully stuck in the past , he needs to let things go. It causes ill health holding a grudge for that amount of time.
Yeah hes been through alot of shit in his life and i respect him for coming out the otherside as that would of broke the majority. But it doesnt matter if its last year or this year or 10 years ago . When ever i see bret hes always fucking moaning .@@brandonvierling6612
Well, he can't really talk about his matches with Roman Reigns or Kofi Kingston because they never happened. So, he talks about his time in the ring, which is in the past.
I guess he stay silent if asked about that. Yes its truly his fault if he talks about it if ithe interview asks these type of questions like most people who do interviews would. Fans like you disgust me and you can fuck off from the comment section but I feel like your so narcissistic you would rather keep leaving terrible comments. I dont understand you and I dont care to.
For those of you who don't know, Bret Hart was and still is a HUGE mark for himself. Bret was the type of guy that would work for less just as long as he got to be "champion". This type of mentality gives the rest of the roster zero LEVERAGE when asking the boss for higher pay and/or other opportunities to make more money. Vince stiffed guys on their pay all the time .... and with Bret at the top making less than he should, Vince knew he could get away with it .... until Hall and Nash changed all that.
So he didn't care about money and only wanted to be the champ and yet when he was proposed a pay decrease he jumped to WCW for more than double the money? You're an idiot lol
Sadly true. He almost doesn't seem to understand that shootfighting and predicted outcomes are different things. He should have just gotten into MMA with his catch background. He seems still not grasp that his job was as an actor performing his own stunts for fictional storylines.
If it's any consolation to Bret, fans still saw him as the best for the next several years. Nobody really thought he was an old man who lost a step. in fact, his 1997 heel run was some of his best work.
I’m a huge brett fan but the things he complains about are insane.. like wtf did he want? Was he suppose to keep the belt from wrestlemania 9 all the way to 12? Of course the belt changes hands! Thats rrrrasslin baby!
Yeah doing some googling, WWE claims first triple threat in 97. They also claim first ladder match in 94, which wasn’t true either, so maybe they did do triple threats at house and over seas shows in 96.
They were always looking for something better than Bret because as good as he was in the ring he didnt have the charisma he was just not a big enough draw
MONTRÉAL ScrewJob: i thought for sure Bret Hitman would win, because they had the Canada vs USA angle, and it was in Canada, but he was the villian, there was lots of build-up to it.
Sorry to say this here but HBK is probably the best all round wrestler and Bret is the best storyteller. However working behind the scenes with HBK would have been a nightmare in the 90’s.
1.Bret wins the WWE championship for the 3rd time 2. Bret gets to be the man that ended Diesel's 1 year title reign 3. Bret gets his win back from Bulldog 4. Bret gets to end Goldust's undefeated streak AND hands HHH his first real loss on TV. All this ..... and yet somehow Bret will tell you WWE was trying to bury him lol. Cry me a river.
Love Bret but he was booked pretty strongly as you pointed out. I think he's just upset that every time he thought he would be the long term champion Vince tried Luger, Hogan, Diesal, and Shawn in the top spot.
@@GameTime-yj6qv Sure, but Vince did that to everybody. Vince would make a guy champion, give them his word that they'd be champion for a long time, then change his mind with no explanation. Classic Vince.
@@aaronneville1164The early to mid 90s were brutal for Vince because nobody could draw money. He was desperately trying to get the belt on someone who could draw while WCW was hammering him.
nobody ever said Bret had a problem losing? they said he had a problem losing in Canada, secondly why would they make a middle age guy from another country the leader of the kliq? just sounds stupid, at the end of the day, Vince McMahon runs the company remember that.
He’s the biggest baby in professional wrestling history by a mile. Bitter as all get out and if there’s a wrestler more for himself than Bret, I’d love to hear that argument.
@@sobbyhasselhoff I mean… have you never watched one of his interviews? No one loves Bret Hart more than Bret Hart. He’s bigger and better than Hogan and Austin in his own mind.
I bet that thought never crossed anyone's mind at all. But apparently getting Owen over somewhat wasn't anything Bret even thought about. Which Owen beat Diesel the next PPV. Wouldn't lose a singles on tv until Ahmed Johnson the next year
Been a Bret Hart fan all my life but they say the best characters are extensions of themselves. Remember his character when he whined and complained always getting screwed in 97? I guess that is the real him. Let things go already, its embarrassing now. You complain too much and had a career many would want to have.
The funniest thing to me a few years back when Vice did the Dark Side special on Owen's death, they discussed how Martha still refuses to allow WWE to induct Owen into the HOF and Bret did some editorial on how it was time to move on so Owen could get his due. Now obviously I'm not disagreeing with Owen being in the HOF, but having Bret Hart lecture on letting go of the past is the ultimate pot calling the kettle black moment.
Bro it's his past, his life he has every right to talk and he doesn't seem sour towards Shawn anymore the buried it but it took a toll on him during Years but he let all the ILL will is gone but his story is his story and that can't change an the man lived a amazing life and gave us all alot to look forward to every wk growing up the man's a legend
What does Bret expect? He was the champ at the time and the face of the company. Of course he would have to be running towns. He’s the marquee name for house shows.
Screw the right way. This is a money making business. Morales in the wrong place. You can have integrity, but lets get this money first. Think about Helping people later.🤔
I love bret and he’s definitely one of the best ever but Jesus man he’s still banging on about something what happened in 1996,Brett will always hold a grudge and took wrestling probably to serious, he’s become a multimillionaire because of wrestling. Does it really matter if you lose to somebody in the ring it’s predetermined it’s not like it’s a real fight and I’ve been a fan of wrestling most of my life. Did Kevin Nash say that Brett worked him self into a shoot or something like that.totally true, I think Brett was just as difficult to work with us, Shawn back in the day, ego, pride money takes over unfortunately
Ohh GAWD! Get over it. You weren’t the best because your attitude was that no one is better than you. And that doesn’t sit well with anyone. Shawn had his own demons. You had your demons. Just because his demons were different than yours doesn’t make you a saint.
To all the people who say Bret is just complaining; he’s telling people stories they want him to tell and answering questions people are asking him. It’s not like he just randomly goes ranting on twitter or TH-cam for attention.
Bret made more money than Shawn in the 90's AND had more title reigns ..... yet somehow DECADES later Bret still finds a way to come off SOUNDING super bitter and jealous of Shawn.
@@Buckdawg Losers mentality. The guys that were meant to get over got over .... regardless of prick HBK. Only the strong survive. Cream always rises to the top.
@@bakshotcruz5361 That's life. Can't be the bosses's favorite forever. Before Shawn it was Diesel and after Shawn it was others. Don't forget, Vince also helped Bret secure 3 mil a year contract with a much lighter schedule in the process.
Shows you how Bret had the correct mindset, when you become WWE champion it's your job to ensure the rest of the boys equally are getting an opportunity not just the guys you are friends with.
As I saw it back then and to this day, I still feel the same way, that Bret was booked to be a weak champion during his 3rd reign. All while Shawn was made to look like this amazing Adonis with Vince McMahon figuratively sucking him off on commentary; it's no wonder the fans would turn on HBK during his reign. Bret should have been booked strong as a champion so that Shawn winning the title isn't perceived as a foregone conclusion.
Fans are fickle they love you, hate you then love you again. Hogan got in 92, Bret was starting to get it slightly in early 96, Shawn got it at SS 96 and Rock, Cena and Roman got it. Cody will get it soon enough.
Did they really book Bret weak though? 1.He went over on Bulldog avenging his loss at Wembley 2. Ended Diesel's year long reign ....something Shawn failed to do previously 3. Ended Goldust's undefeated streak the day after Goldust beat Razor 4. Beat the guy who spent more time in the 96 Rumble match than anyone else clean with the sharpshooter. Sure had Shawn looking real strong going into mania didn't they? I mean, wins over tag team guys and guys that Bret already beat lol. What a killer. Lmao
@@aaronneville1164You answered your own question. By explaining how weak they booked him 😂 So basically, strong wins against IC level guys, and non/fluke wins against main eventers... Got it. Yeah genius booking right there.
I thought it was a phenomenal match. Even though we all knew Shawn was going over, I was hoping Bret was going to retain. I remember feeling a slight relief when the time expired and Bret starting to walk away, but then when the match was ordered to go into sudden death, I knew we were about a minute and three seconds away from a super kick and Shawn’s hand raised in victory.
Respect for the channel. Now i read the book and enjoy his stories they're very detailed and interesting... Here's what gets me though when does Bret admit his short comings and his mistakes hes always burying Hogan, Goldberg etc, but if you look at picturrs of Owen's funeral guess whose standing right there next to Stu and Bret.... Hogan who was right there supporting Bret during his darkest hour. Hickenbottom at least owns he was a premadonna sob who couldn't give 2 f"$#S about anyone at the time and Hogan is not perfect but without him these individual wouldn't have been able to make the $$$$$$$ they did because of Hogan and Vince. Hulkamania changed wrestling forever as did Austin, Taker, Flair, nWo, Rock, Sting,Warrior,Andre,Savage, Piper,Warriors, Hart etc..... Hart was an amazing performer and fun to watch his promo skills didn't grab you and get you reved up for the match.
He has forgiven Shawn, has for over a decade. Or at least, he was willing to move on and accept what happened and not hold ill will to Shawn. They are on friendly terms now.
Could Bret Hart have been successful as the leader of the Kliq? Let us know in the comments.
He would've been great booking the matches, bret was that guy
I don't think that's in Brets mindset. It would of been weird to see the Hitman character acting like that
We are COC🤘😆🤘
Haha Bret Fart thinks he would be the leader of the Kliq. Bret Farts lies just get worse everytime they put him with a mic. He's just dragging and changing stories. Now suddenly him and Shawn were friends 1995, when Bret first say they hated eachother. Bret Fart - The Exellence of Excuses.
Which is horseshit because Shawn Michaels has far more losses than wins. Go watch his career.
I love how despite their differences, Bret always respected Shawn as a worker and gives him his props for his in-ring work.
To be fair, Shawn's talents were so obvious, that you would really look stupid if you said he was a bad worker.
Now he may have been total dick, but phenomenal in the ring.
@@henrikschmidt3964people have egos that big, like hogan lying to vince undertaker hurt his neck delivering the tombstone
@@richdude8150 Yea, why not screw over the young kid who is finally getting his shot?
I felt so bad for Taker on that one. i think he was legit scared his chance at the main event was over and done. Which it kinda was after the Jake match at WM8.
Like Shawn, he wanted change within the company. No silly gimmicks or silly storylines,they made wrestling real and were part of the attitude era.or at least started it.
That’s what I was thinking … most have HBK the Goat as far as in ring skill .. even Jim Cornett says Shawn prob the greatest in ring talent
whats crazy is the kliq did take over
Yeah Shawn running the future NXT triple H in control of the main show crazy huh
I can only imagine if Bret joined forces and hung out with those guys. People say wrestling wasn't shit 93-96 (outside of ECW) but the Kliq were over as hell. Outside of Bret and Taker they were the business. And Undertaker was in the process of developing his legacy as locker room leader and boss. Those years he was just another guy. But you can't deny if you were a fan of wrestling during those dark times, you were a fan of the Kliq wrestlers
Facts, those guys were entertaining, @@ChrisSuswal-de9tj
Lenin also warned the Communists about Stalin taking over and that Stalin was way too unstable and crazy. Eisenhower warned the US about the military industrial complex on his way out, and that it would lead to fake wars and bloodshed for money. Both were right.
No disrespect.. But in my opinion having Bret as the leader of the Kliq would Not have worked because sometime down the road Shawn and Bret would have bumped heads in a bad way.. If it would of happened i think it would have been short lived..
I really don't think that happened.,.
Yeah exactly sounds like a lie @IdealX-fr4eg
They bumped heads anyway, even with him not in the "Cliq." Bret Hart fit better with his family. You're right, but I think the Hart Foundation was way better for wrestling professionally. DX was just a couple of adults acting like little kids with a woman who looked like a man. What foreshadowing... Bret and Shawn made the business the best. Eventually, Bret's professionalism and Shawn's immaturity crossed each other. Easily the best performers of the 90s easily.
"A convenience when needed, but an inconvenience when not," is probably the best description of Vince McMahons' attitude towards Bret. Unlike Stone Cold, The Rock, or Hulk Hogan, Vince never came around to seeing Bret as a "Main Eventer," the fans did, but not him.
Shawn did work with Kevin Nash the PPV after WM12. However, then he never worked a PPV match with Nash, Hall, HHH or Waltman again. Hence if the plan was to just work with his buddies, the plan didn't work out very well.
Funny too, he worked with Davey Boy, Bret's brother in law two months in a row after that.
It's almost like it was never gonna be their call, but Vince's. 😄
@@Luminator_maior I do wonder if HHH woulda worked with Shawn had the Curtain Call never happened. Remember he was slated to be King of the Ring before that, and Austin I think got a shot or two after he won it.
Because brets talking out his ass
@@ajk The Curtain Call probably had an impact there, yeah. I still don't think the Kliq would have been calling the shots.
I get what he's saying about it not being fair to the other guys, but a series of matches/feuds with the Kliq would have been Too Sweet.
No
Bret talks about all of this in his autobiography as well.
And I too remember as a kid thinking "How come Bret seems to be getting downplayed even though he's the champion?" as Shawn was getting all of the attention.
Agreed. That setup with Shawn Michaels doing his Rocky Balboa training stuff was weird. Also, it seems that Kevin Nash's suggestion that Bret Hart take the powerbomb during their cage match, and Bret's rejecting of it, has more meaning now.
I was 9 years old when the match happened and I thought the same as you. I was so disappointed when Bret lost. Even as a kid, I never cared for Shawn Michaels. I always liked Bret Hart, Diesel and Razor Ramon.
Kind of interesting how Bret's concept of the Clique's master plan of taking over the company actually came to pass with HHH getting in with the family, and HBK staying close with him for all these years. It makes me wonder if that story is true, or if Bret is projecting the current reality onto his memory of past events.
It's not the first time it has happened in the wrestling business. Buddy Roger's gang ran Bruno out of new York and almost killed the wwwf, flair had his little group that followed him around and if you didn't buddy up with him or kiss his ass he wouldn't put you over. Hogan's got his little group he came to WCW with as well and ran out some of the younger guys, namely Austin.
A lot of what he is saying is at least vaguely, or factually true. I remember they did do that bit with Owen and the insiguri on Shawn, Shawn fainting and taking time off. They were building Shawn up, but how much of that was just business, or whether or not it was favoritism, well, it's pretty obvious if you go back and watch the tape. Vince is really putting over Shawn hard here, and it's a time when WCW is starting, just before they had a 2 year old on the ratings, Vince could feel the heat, so he was probably trying to get Shawn over AMAP, ASAP. That his 2 buddies left town probably goes against what Bret is saying here more than anything. Hall and Nash were out for money, not simply gold. Whether Shawn wanted to work with his friends or not, they were gone.
Bret wants to work with anyone not only with a small group
He always felt that way.....read his book.
@@sleazyfellowand aew has their lil group with the elite
Funny thing is 10 years before the Cliq, there was another cliq to a lesser degree. That was the Stampede boys, including Bret Hart.
Main difference is Hulk Hogan was there, so they couldn’t hog Vince’s ear.
And just like Shawn and Co., they were the workhorses counted on to have the main event the matinees that Hogan was on thruought his big run. If you saw Hogan match 3, they knew they needed Bret batting cleanup in the 8th Match.
I'm really loving the interviews in this channel, but you could really do without all the click-baity titles.
That iron man Match was the best WM match ever then razor vs HBK ladder match was second best match imo
Ladder match at X is a better match
Still my favorite wrestler. He never sold himself out, never sold his integrity even when he could have made way more money (like Hall and Nash, or Hogan). An irascible perfectionist but a faultless ring general and irreplaceable talent.
Bret needs to do a weekly pod. Stories and commentary on the modern product, PLEASE!?
*8:31* Bret: "Look at how old and tired Bret Hart looks." At that time, I was wondering if Vince wanted to put Shawn over because of the 8 year age difference between him and Bret. Bret was 38 going on 39. I had much respect for his athleticism and professionalism--still do. Yet from what I've read, Vince tended to favor the younger roster as well as their looking younger. Shawn just didn't convince me that he was a professional.
Kliq story is bullshit.. the name kliq was a name given to them by Davey boy, it wasn't something they came up with, Kevin Nash even said that never happened
Yes, I'm sure Bret knows that.
It was actually Luger that gave them the name.
@@jamief1263 Luger said Davey did on the kliq DVD.. everyone just credits Luger cuz he told everybody
Brett still doesn't understand the Kip formation wasn't about belts or pre-determined matches, it was about pushing for. changes in the whole wrestling salary structure. Wrestlers in the mid-1990s were still making peanuts compared to the value and revenue they were bringing in. The only one to the exception was Hogan. Hart is salty because Vince played him, he wrestled for less than he was supposed to get to market value, he did that just to be loyal to Vince, and then McMahon still screwed him.
Scott Hall went to Vince many times asking for a raise but he didn't have leverage because the hitman worked for cheap. Hall decided to explore his options then WCW entered the picture and he got the salary he wanted in the first place. Nash then heard about this and jumped ship. I still chuckle at Brett's comments he thinks what he did was Olympic wrestling or the real stuff. The two guys Vince brushed off and ignored their salary demands played a significant role in WCW's rise and almost put Vince out of business.
It wasn't about the money for Bret. It was about having the belt. He had an ego every bit as large as Michaels. The difference was Bret didn't act like an asshole,Shawn did.
This, if the Kliq was really that tight and only cared about belts and prestige, why did half of them leave for WCW? Hall said it himself, I’ll let you pin me all day if there is a paycheck involved.
He was making over half a million a year. Only an idiot would call that peanuts.
@@jonharrison9222it isn’t as much as you’d think though when you factor in travel and accommodation wasn’t included and they had to fund that themselves, Austin said he always tried to room with Foley because he knew that Foley would find the cheapest, nastiest motel in town to bank as much as he could 😂😂
@@mikeg2491You are correct about half of tbe kliq leaving for WCW for the money. The belts were still important though to have. Bret said it himself, the champion and his opponent got paid equally or fairly close. If Shawn is champion, and he wrestles Scott Hall then both get that pay. Before the guaranteed contracts, that would be big. They could wrestle together, and cycle through each other. Hogan did that with many wrestlers with the exception of losing the title.
The problem was while business was never Hogan level at the time, Bret drew more $$$ for the company at that time than Shawn, HHH, Hall, and Nash; especially, outside the states. It's why he kept getting the belt back. Not until Hall and Nash left for WCW did they get the high paydays. Then the NWO angle exploded, and they really started drawing houses. Ironically, they were paired with Hogan. HHH became the big draw during the attitude era by being the guy who could feud with Austin, Rock, and Foley
I agree that was probably his best match he ever had. I feel like it might be top 2-3 matches of all time maybe even number 1
That Iron Man match sucked
@@NateNizzle you have lost your gahdamn mind
@@ozzy6312708 that was the worst Bret Hart match, the worst Shawn Michaels match, and the worst Iron Man match I've ever seen. Snoozefest!
@@ozzy6312708 th-cam.com/video/ufBCahrb0_I/w-d-xo.html
It was boring. Watch it without nostalgia glasses and you'll see how little action there is in it until the last 10-15 minutes.
Bret's deeper into his gimmick than Mach was!
And what a great gimmick it is. A REAL pro wrestler.
I believe Nash has discredited this story, and says they never asked Bret to be part of the Kliq.
Also, Shawn didn’t sit at home for 3 months leading up to WM 12. He worked the Rumble in Jan, and worked a program with Owen that concluded at the IYH PPV the month before WM. I’m not sure if Shawn was working as many house shows as Bret was during that time, but Shawn was definitely not on vacation for 3 months.
Nash just said he doesn't remember.
Sure xpac said it was mentioned
Is Nash and Shawn Micheals the same person then?
Bret lies a lot but his fans lack life experience to actually tell when someone is liar
@@EGarrett01😂
I honestly side with Bret in this. The fact that Bret had to constantly get the belt off of Yokozuna and Diesel back in the 90s almost felt like he was just holding the belt until they found someone else. Like just imagine if Bret held the belt from the forst time he got it to 96. There would be much more of an imapct imo
Bret is probably very proud of the work he put into the match and being able to keep his conditioning to a peak level, but this is my least favorite Bret vs. Shawn match. As for Bret matches, not even a top five. He had the best matches, ones that I still look forward to rewatching. His match against Austin the following year tops any match he ever had with Shawn. Just my opinion.
"Michaels always has to win or else wise he won't show up" - Jim Cornette
Showed up at WM 14 to drop the belt to Austin even though he had a back injury that kept him out of the ring for 4 years.
@@3Overhauscause undertaker was gonna beat him up
Michaels is on record saying he asked the Undertaker about that story and Undertaker denied it. Cornette said it sure,but Cornette is a highly volatile guy who hates Michaels.
@user-pk3zw7mb8w He had to show up or shit was not gonna be good for ol Hickenbottom
In the nineties,definitely
Calling BS on Shawn asking Bret to lead the Kliq. Michael’s was leader of the kliq why would he give that up? I’ve never heard anyone else say this before. And they know Bret would tell Vince anyway
He said in this interview that he believed it was possible that they were just messing with him about the whole Leader thing.
Actually that was told before too,it didn’t help Bret and Shawn’s friendship which was non existent eventually,Shawn asked Bret to join,then asked if he would lead,if Bret joined and led the clique they’d have had more power over Vince and lots of the other guys in the locker room because Bret had respect from all of his peers
Cuz it is bs.. Nash even said this never happened
It's BS, bitter Bret is now turning into Hulk Hogan.
@Michael-cz6ob Nash lies on his podcast just to rile up marks. And Hall claimed the Screwjob was a work.
Hands down the greatest professional wrestler of all time. Bret had an amazing combination of being the best technical wrestler and being passionate about the business. When you are passionate about something and super talented at it then you should excel in life.
He didn't want to take Nash's finish because it made him look week before Mania. As Taker would say, "It's not all about you." It's to build Taker and Diesel's feud. I'm a huge fan of Bret's work but I don't agree with how he thought he was perceived. I knew he would take it to Shawn. He is one of the best wrestlers in my book, but I don't think Bret was being buried at that time. Perhaps a transitional champion for Shawn, sure.
Whether they worked him too hard on purpose; Only Vince truly knows if there was a plan.
Don't you think taking nash' finish and being a beaten man for only the undertaker to drag nash down and bret who was a FACE win in a cowardly fashion right BEFORE MANIA makes him look weak? Going in against HBK who had just wont he rumble ? I can totally see why this would devalue the huge FACE v FACE match.
They can just shoot on this stuff for the next 20 years
Not trying to be an asz so correct me if I'm wrong, but he's saying WWF wanted to make him look tired for wrestlemania by giving him big, tough opponents. But then he was able to train bc they were only putting him in triple threat matches where he could rest. Well did they want to make you tired or let you rest?
Kinda gives credence to Nash's story where even Taker had to tell him it's "not all about Brett". Seems like the guy is/was really in his own head. Like hearing his stories though.
x pac confirmed brets statement
@devangpatel5227 Cool, but which one? That he was being worked over to make him tired for mania or that he was given triple threat matches so he could rest for the great match?
@@jaysleeper264 my bad. the part that they offered him to be part of the click
A lot of ≠ only in.
Plus, you seem to have missed the part where he said "i wrestle everyday for the next 3 months". So there were triple threats and the singles matches with the likes of Taker, Yoko, Nash, etc.
If you guys wanna hate on Bret do it, even say that he only complains in interviews since that's true, but dont bring BS by hearing half of the interview.
@@kaitoivánARG aren't you literally just doing that yourself in most comment sections I see you post u in? Bringing in BS, talk about being a hypocrite.
Bret fans are some special breed
In my opinion bret was the best i would say early 90s cause of timing. Always been one of the best at technical wrestling. One of the best to me. But even better for the fact of at a time where hogan was leaving and other stuff going on he took the ball and ran with it. Became a hero when one was greatly needed. For that i say thank you bret.
Bret Hart..... The man I grew up loving..... But once grown, I seen.....this man let the Industry run him, almost as if Vince said all the right things to make Bret Hart take that lifetime deal.
They tried to run him into the ground by putting him in alot of triple threats so he could rest up. 🤔
Bret you had a amazing career and were a hugely positive influence in the 90s. I wish you could be happy about it and stop focusing on the negative.
It's an interview, they're asking him to relive memories.
Wak up
Short interview if he just says 'yeah everything was great'
😂
@@epec20All his interviews are miserable.
@user-pk3zw7mb8w not getting it are you? 😆
It’s crazy but I never saw Bret Hart as a heele. Best wrestler to ever live
You can't really argue Bret was any worse at putting guys over than anyone else if you look at that 95-96 stretch. He looks horrible from winning the title at SS to then losing it at Wrestlemania.
I always thought the build up to the Iron Man match was stupid, anyway. It's fine if they wanted to try Shawn as champ, but it was completely obvious that it was going to be his coronation event. You knew Bret wasn't winning.
If Bret joined and headed the Kliq he wouldn't have left WWF and probably had a longer career.
Bret was a hypocrite ..... in the sense that when Vince made him the champ in 94 Bret pushed to work with Owen .... and also pushed for the rest of his family to be included.
But when it was Shawn's turn to have a run with the title and wanted to do the same thing but with his best friends, Bret had a problem with that.
What, you weren’t thrilled to see Bruce Hart getting in on the action?
@mikeg2491 shades all day even indoors
Considering Owen and Bret had the best opening match in WM history and their feud practically wrote itself, you’d have to be a moron not to run with it.
@@jonharrison9222 Considering Bret/Owen ended up being overshadowed by Shawn/Razor .... another feud that wrote itself, you'd also have to be a moron not to run with Shawn and Razor but with higher stakes.
@@jonharrison9222but that match was overshadowed by the greatest ladder match, cry some more
Me me me me🤑🤑🤑🤑
Kinda explains how Shawn worked with Diesel first. Even after Diesel just lost to the Undertaker
The thing I love about Bret and someone like Cornette is that they keep personal and business Shawn separate. They both always put him over in the ring. Shawn always says the same about Bret too.
I really thought this guy moved on.
Does he realize how bitter he sounds? It made no sense for Shawn to tell Bret Hart what he was going to do after he wins the title. Most likely he didn't tell him he was going to wrestle only his buddies because that's not what happened. Also considering that Shawn at the very worst is top 3 performer of all time and possibly the very best. His win loss record was never that important to Shawn or the rest of the Kliq. It was about making more money. Scott Hall was very open about it. Money was the reason Hall and Nash left to WCW. They realized early that you more often than not come out looking better putting someone else over. Fans are not stupid.
Shawn was suppose to go over Kurt Angle after weeks of getting humiliated by Angle who would then get his comeuppance but Shawn thought Angle should go over because he was younger.
Shawn still looked great working with Kurt Angle even though he was on the losing end.
Also Shawn Michaels was called MR WrestleMania even though he had a losing record in WrestleMania.
I wonder if Bret will ever realize how silly he was being so concerned with winning matches. I think Bret looked the best when he put his brother Owen over. Which brings me to the last point. Nothing wrong with working with your friends when you know you have a better chance to have a great match and not get hurt. I remember Bret wrestling his family and friends just as much as Shawn worked with his friends.
I think deep down Bret Hart wishes he had more programs with Shawn Michaels, which never happened because Bret insisted on not just beating HBK but breaking his leg and giving him the middle finger. Not surprisingly Shawn decided to go in a different direction.
Bret never ‘lost his smile.’
@@jonharrison9222 Bret never had a smile
I love Bret but them supposedly coming to him not just asking him to be part of the kliq but that they want HIM to be the "head guy"
C'mon....
If ANYTHING they wanted him to play that ROLE so if Vince or anyone else wasn't having any of that (essentially them starting their own weird "union") then Bret would be the one to take the heat
"Oh hey we were just following BRET...BRET is our "head guy"
Knowing the way those dudes were complete high school "mean girls" at that time, they just saw Bret as a mark. And again, Bret is my all time favorite wrestler but the way he tells that one, seemingly convinced that they really wanted him to be their shot caller lol... nah, if that part is true (and I don't really take Bret as a liar) it was what I said, they wanted to scapegoat him for sure. I'm sure Nash has his side of this story I gotta look that up, I'm sure it's old news but I don't follow anything like I used to.
That doesn't sound paranoid at all…
Also, the reason Diesel didn't really work out as champion isn't because Nash wasn't ready, but because as soon as they gave him the belt, they turned him from angry badass to smiling moron…
Nash couldn't work OR cut a promo when they first put the belt on him. Watch his first interview after beating Backlund, it's cringe.
Bret is correct that Nash was not ready wrestling-wise. In terms of character, your assessment is correct. He was the cool badass which was getting him over. Then they turned him into a generic white meat baby face which wasn't interesting.
I always felt Nash beating Backland at a house show was a horrendous start to a title reign. He should have beat Bret or Taker or anyone worth a damn at a big four PPv would have at least given him a chance. But tuning in and finding out he just was champion was lame.
watch his match with bret he could work @@EGarrett01
@@EGarrett01 the reason the promo was cringe was coz up to the day b4 Nash was heel and only cut Heel Proms and never done a face Promo.
I love Brett, but he's all over the map with this one. First, he's saying Vince set him up to look bad for the Iron Man match by running him into the ground against big, physical dudes in the lead-up. Then, later, he's saying that he was actually in a bunch of triple threats where he could dog it and save himself for the Iron Man.
I thought I was the only one that caught that. He definitely contradicted himself, within a 10 minute story.
He was referring to getting basically beat by Taker and Diesel on back to back PPVs going into WM12 where he was expected to make Shawn the new big star, while simultaneously having him in an iron man match where Shawn got to stay home and work out while Bret had to stay on the road and not be able to properly prepare for a 1hr match.
Bret lies a lot... Just like many wrestlers
@@PersonalAcc1989 But HBK Did not get to stay home, HBK Worked the Rumbler and then Owen in the nxt ppv he also worked with Yoko on Raw I Belive too
@@ajsgaming83 thank you for describing televised events which made up less than 25% of the weekly workload
Brett was never going to be in the kliq
Lots of sour grapes from Brett
Unless things changed in the mid 90s, wrestlers did NOT get paid the same as the champion. The champion always got paid more.
As it should be
If you worked the champ, you got paid a lot more than reg stuff
Nash confirmed there were never any plans on Bret being part of the Kliq
Nash is a liar. Why would bret lie over that? smh
@@bornfromforeign um, because he was part of the Kliq, believe it or not, not everything Bret says is true, I know, shocking but that's the problem with die hard fans
@@Jcrash71believe it or not, not everything Nash says its true, i know, shocking but that's the problem with die hard fans.
Im not a die hard fan but i believe Bret in this one, since it makes sense and it doesnt stink ego unlike most of what Nash says.
@@kaitoivánARG believe it or not, copying my post and trying to mock me doesn't make what Bret has claimed is true
That's the problem with die hard fans and your reasoning as to why you believe Bret over Nash is honestly so bad. You tried though😂
Another problem with Bret fans and imagine believing Bret doesn't have an ego
Bret has lied about his stories over the years, claimed he never hurt anyone but Bad News Brown confirmed he gave him a concussion, lied about receiving more fan mail than Hogan throughout the 80s but his fans lack critical thinking and believe what he always says is "true" to them and lied about Nash asking him to be part of the Kliq.
The celebrity worshipping is a serious illness and I hope they receive help
Brets got to be the most bitterest man on the planet 😂
Bret just quite simply rules.
Man... I love bret, he will always be the goat in my opinion. However, it would do him some good to forgive and REALLY let go. He said that he's over Montreal. yet afte listening to a few of these shoot interviews I get the impression that bret is still in his own head , replaying and getting worked up all over again when detailing events that possibly could have not even been part of any plan tobtakr him down.
Let me tell you something he thinks that wrestlers get paid the same when they clearly do not look at Hulk Cogan Look for instance😂😂😂😂😊😊😊
Lot of Shawn and Goldberg
Bret becoming the new Ole Anderson
Great interview clips of the GOAT!
I love Bret but I very much disagree regarding the Iron Man match. The way it played out, it became a giant snoozefest, that ended up having fans try to 'beat the traffic'.
What they should have had, was a straight up wrestling match, that would end in a time limit draw. Then you could do the sudden death overtime with some validity too.
The way they did it, you quickly became disengaged and started to tune out.
My only issue with this is Bret did the EXACT thing. He worked with Owen and Dave’s when he was Champion
As much as i love and respect bret hart he is fully stuck in the past , he needs to let things go. It causes ill health holding a grudge for that amount of time.
He never was this way until Goldberg kicked his head off
Yeah hes been through alot of shit in his life and i respect him for coming out the otherside as that would of broke the majority. But it doesnt matter if its last year or this year or 10 years ago . When ever i see bret hes always fucking moaning .@@brandonvierling6612
Well, he can't really talk about his matches with Roman Reigns or Kofi Kingston because they never happened. So, he talks about his time in the ring, which is in the past.
You could just ignore the video. But you Bret haters can't seem to move on from him.
I guess he stay silent if asked about that. Yes its truly his fault if he talks about it if ithe interview asks these type of questions like most people who do interviews would. Fans like you disgust me and you can fuck off from the comment section but I feel like your so narcissistic you would rather keep leaving terrible comments. I dont understand you and I dont care to.
After 25 years Shawn still owns big estate in Bret head
He is asked, they always ask, he always answers.
@@rickstalentedtongue910Right. He gets asked about it. Then people complain when he answers what was asked.
For those of you who don't know, Bret Hart was and still is a HUGE mark for himself. Bret was the type of guy that would work for less just as long as he got to be "champion". This type of mentality gives the rest of the roster zero LEVERAGE when asking the boss for higher pay and/or other opportunities to make more money. Vince stiffed guys on their pay all the time .... and with Bret at the top making less than he should, Vince knew he could get away with it .... until Hall and Nash changed all that.
Nash said recently that Brett was never considered to be in the kliq and he laughed
Yes he left for WCW because of the belt, didn’t he…?
So he didn't care about money and only wanted to be the champ and yet when he was proposed a pay decrease he jumped to WCW for more than double the money? You're an idiot lol
Sadly true. He almost doesn't seem to understand that shootfighting and predicted outcomes are different things. He should have just gotten into MMA with his catch background. He seems still not grasp that his job was as an actor performing his own stunts for fictional storylines.
This is a brutal truth that many will ignore
No Bret Hart would not be a good leader of the qlik.Bret Hart was very respectful of the other wrestlers moving up the ranks.
If it's any consolation to Bret, fans still saw him as the best for the next several years. Nobody really thought he was an old man who lost a step. in fact, his 1997 heel run was some of his best work.
I’m a huge brett fan but the things he complains about are insane.. like wtf did he want? Was he suppose to keep the belt from wrestlemania 9 all the way to 12? Of course the belt changes hands! Thats rrrrasslin baby!
In the Era before title reigns were longer. I guess Bret wanted the multi year reign like hogan had.
I don’t think they ever asked him to be in the Kliq
Waltman confirmed the story.
Triple threat matches in early 1996?
Yeah doing some googling, WWE claims first triple threat in 97. They also claim first ladder match in 94, which wasn’t true either, so maybe they did do triple threats at house and over seas shows in 96.
Bret is the !
"Everyone needs to get outta my way but nobody did, so they're assholes" Brett Hart
They were always looking for something better than Bret because as good as he was in the ring he didnt have the charisma he was just not a big enough draw
It's because of Bret's overseas draw that the WWF was able to stay alive.
@@Greatone765he wasn't a big draw overseas, stop with the myths
MONTRÉAL ScrewJob: i thought for sure Bret Hitman would win, because they had the Canada vs USA angle, and it was in Canada, but he was the villian, there was lots of build-up to it.
Sorry to say this here but HBK is probably the best all round wrestler and Bret is the best storyteller. However working behind the scenes with HBK would have been a nightmare in the 90’s.
1.Bret wins the WWE championship for the 3rd time
2. Bret gets to be the man that ended Diesel's 1 year title reign
3. Bret gets his win back from Bulldog
4. Bret gets to end Goldust's undefeated streak AND hands HHH his first real loss on TV.
All this ..... and yet somehow Bret will tell you WWE was trying to bury him lol. Cry me a river.
Love Bret but he was booked pretty strongly as you pointed out. I think he's just upset that every time he thought he would be the long term champion Vince tried Luger, Hogan, Diesal, and Shawn in the top spot.
@@GameTime-yj6qv Sure, but Vince did that to everybody. Vince would make a guy champion, give them his word that they'd be champion for a long time, then change his mind with no explanation. Classic Vince.
@@aaronneville1164The early to mid 90s were brutal for Vince because nobody could draw money. He was desperately trying to get the belt on someone who could draw while WCW was hammering him.
@@aaronneville1164 actully vince told Hart b4 he won the belt back that Shawn was going over At Mania 12
Glad u got the the joke my mate
Bret is always crying about something and beefing with someone 🤦♂️
Nope . He appreciated undertaker, Rock , austin , jericho , benoit , Eddie etc .
I feel like Bret never really fought for himself and if u don’t fight for urself no one else will
I love Bret but this story sounds far fetched to me asking him to be the leader I don’t believe that at all
nobody ever said Bret had a problem losing? they said he had a problem losing in Canada, secondly why would they make a middle age guy from another country the leader of the kliq? just sounds stupid, at the end of the day, Vince McMahon runs the company remember that.
He’s the biggest baby in professional wrestling history by a mile. Bitter as all get out
and if there’s a wrestler more for himself than Bret, I’d love to hear that argument.
All wrestlers are for themselves. Ego is part of the game.
@@Buckdawg you can’t be a success without it…of course, basement dwellers will sit on the sidelines and criticize
That's why the boys called him BRAT Hart backstage... He was always whining & crying whenever he didn't get his way.
Thanks for regurgitating stuff you've heard Scott hall say.
@@sobbyhasselhoff I mean… have you never watched one of his interviews? No one loves Bret Hart more than Bret Hart. He’s bigger and better than Hogan and Austin in his own mind.
TLDR: Brett was the best, no one was ever as good, Brett should always win, any result that doesn't end up with Brett looking the best is bad.
I bet that thought never crossed anyone's mind at all. But apparently getting Owen over somewhat wasn't anything Bret even thought about. Which Owen beat Diesel the next PPV. Wouldn't lose a singles on tv until Ahmed Johnson the next year
Been a Bret Hart fan all my life but they say the best characters are extensions of themselves. Remember his character when he whined and complained always getting screwed in 97? I guess that is the real him. Let things go already, its embarrassing now. You complain too much and had a career many would want to have.
The funniest thing to me a few years back when Vice did the Dark Side special on Owen's death, they discussed how Martha still refuses to allow WWE to induct Owen into the HOF and Bret did some editorial on how it was time to move on so Owen could get his due. Now obviously I'm not disagreeing with Owen being in the HOF, but having Bret Hart lecture on letting go of the past is the ultimate pot calling the kettle black moment.
Bret just likes to complain. Shawn had his problems but he’s reformed now. But Bret likes to complain and complain.
That's all he does is complain..and complain.....if his lips r moving He's lying
Lol wtf u on. He is telling old stories for the show. We know they r good now together
You'd be bitter too if you were pushed out a company due to another rassler's ego and then cheated out of millions due to a sloppy rassler.
Bro it's his past, his life he has every right to talk and he doesn't seem sour towards Shawn anymore the buried it but it took a toll on him during Years but he let all the ILL will is gone but his story is his story and that can't change an the man lived a amazing life and gave us all alot to look forward to every wk growing up the man's a legend
All I heard was a bitter old has been crying
The goat
This guy is furious with everything except the mirror
I wish bret pulled a " i lost my smile, and hace to go in for " elective " thumb surgery* 😅😅😅
What does Bret expect? He was the champ at the time and the face of the company. Of course he would have to be running towns. He’s the marquee name for house shows.
I don't ever recall asking bret to join the kliq, let alone be the top guy running it, Shawn .
Screw the right way. This is a money making business. Morales in the wrong place. You can have integrity, but lets get this money first. Think about Helping people later.🤔
I love bret and he’s definitely one of the best ever but Jesus man he’s still banging on about something what happened in 1996,Brett will always hold a grudge and took wrestling probably to serious, he’s become a multimillionaire because of wrestling. Does it really matter if you lose to somebody in the ring it’s predetermined it’s not like it’s a real fight and I’ve been a fan of wrestling most of my life. Did Kevin Nash say that Brett worked him self into a shoot or something like that.totally true, I think Brett was just as difficult to work with us, Shawn back in the day, ego, pride money takes over unfortunately
I dunno, i can count pretty high on how many people HBK lost too.
Once HBK won the world title up until he left in 1998 he almost never did any jobs. After his 02 return he did more jobs.
@@ricosalvaje5802 why would you do loads of jobs after wining the title?? look at how many jobs hbk did b4 96 espicelly to Hart in 92/93
I love Bret. But that’s straight conspiracy
He's such a whiner
Calling it like it was; deal or buzz off.
Ohh GAWD! Get over it. You weren’t the best because your attitude was that no one is better than you. And that doesn’t sit well with anyone. Shawn had his own demons. You had your demons. Just because his demons were different than yours doesn’t make you a saint.
To all the people who say Bret is just complaining; he’s telling people stories they want him to tell and answering questions people are asking him. It’s not like he just randomly goes ranting on twitter or TH-cam for attention.
Bret is a g.o.a.t.
Bret made more money than Shawn in the 90's AND had more title reigns ..... yet somehow DECADES later Bret still finds a way to come off SOUNDING super bitter and jealous of Shawn.
Shawn and his group messed up the mid-90's and screwed up a lot of people's entire careers. They should be upset.
Shawn Michaels was Vince’s favorite over Bret. He still payed Shawn Michaels for 4 years after he “left” in 1998. Why not be upset….
Can't blame him. HBK was an absolute prick back then. His rise came at the expense of many great workers.
@@Buckdawg Losers mentality. The guys that were meant to get over got over .... regardless of prick HBK. Only the strong survive. Cream always rises to the top.
@@bakshotcruz5361 That's life. Can't be the bosses's favorite forever. Before Shawn it was Diesel and after Shawn it was others. Don't forget, Vince also helped Bret secure 3 mil a year contract with a much lighter schedule in the process.
Shows you how Bret had the correct mindset, when you become WWE champion it's your job to ensure the rest of the boys equally are getting an opportunity not just the guys you are friends with.
Career ending injury..until wcw was closed & a new contract was up..and than he was back for another 15 years or so...
As I saw it back then and to this day, I still feel the same way, that Bret was booked to be a weak champion during his 3rd reign. All while Shawn was made to look like this amazing Adonis with Vince McMahon figuratively sucking him off on commentary; it's no wonder the fans would turn on HBK during his reign.
Bret should have been booked strong as a champion so that Shawn winning the title isn't perceived as a foregone conclusion.
Fans are fickle they love you, hate you then love you again. Hogan got in 92, Bret was starting to get it slightly in early 96, Shawn got it at SS 96 and Rock, Cena and Roman got it. Cody will get it soon enough.
Did they really book Bret weak though?
1.He went over on Bulldog avenging his loss at Wembley
2. Ended Diesel's year long reign ....something Shawn failed to do previously
3. Ended Goldust's undefeated streak the day after Goldust beat Razor
4. Beat the guy who spent more time in the 96 Rumble match than anyone else clean with the sharpshooter.
Sure had Shawn looking real strong going into mania didn't they? I mean, wins over tag team guys and guys that Bret already beat lol. What a killer. Lmao
@@aaronneville1164You answered your own question. By explaining how weak they booked him 😂 So basically, strong wins against IC level guys, and non/fluke wins against main eventers... Got it.
Yeah genius booking right there.
I thought it was a phenomenal match. Even though we all knew Shawn was going over, I was hoping Bret was going to retain. I remember feeling a slight relief when the time expired and Bret starting to walk away, but then when the match was ordered to go into sudden death, I knew we were about a minute and three seconds away from a super kick and Shawn’s hand raised in victory.
Respect for the channel. Now i read the book and enjoy his stories they're very detailed and interesting... Here's what gets me though when does Bret admit his short comings and his mistakes hes always burying Hogan, Goldberg etc, but if you look at picturrs of Owen's funeral guess whose standing right there next to Stu and Bret.... Hogan who was right there supporting Bret during his darkest hour. Hickenbottom at least owns he was a premadonna sob who couldn't give 2 f"$#S about anyone at the time and Hogan is not perfect but without him these individual wouldn't have been able to make the $$$$$$$ they did because of Hogan and Vince. Hulkamania changed wrestling forever as did Austin, Taker, Flair, nWo, Rock, Sting,Warrior,Andre,Savage, Piper,Warriors, Hart etc..... Hart was an amazing performer and fun to watch his promo skills didn't grab you and get you reved up for the match.
Brat Hart always whining & crying
Bret needs to learn to forgive and let go. .. live with some peace in his heart
He has forgiven Shawn, has for over a decade. Or at least, he was willing to move on and accept what happened and not hold ill will to Shawn. They are on friendly terms now.
@@StealthMarmot_ ask Bret how he Feels About Goldberg??