Bret Hart on stage with ITR in October 2019, discussed his move to WCW, what he would’ve changed and he reveals the hilarious pitch he sarcastically made to Eric Bischoff. You won’t believe it! Subscribe to the channel for more clips of our live shows and interviews and don't forget to like and comment too!
That cat idea doesn't sound so bad, to be fair. Obviously, someone else needs to be involved to switch carriers, but I can see that working. It may not necessarily work for Bret, but that would be a good spot for a comedic heel.
And Bret's so full of himself it's pathetic! "I was the best at this. I was the greatest at that. This guy said he thought I was the #1" He was BORING AF both in the ring and on the mic!
@@theraVen27 We're talking WCW Hogan. Had Hogan just put over Sting after 18 months of build, WCW could still be around today. Hogan needed to know when it was time to put the right person over and/or share the spotlight. Even when he put over Goldberg, Hogan was still in the main event most of the time. Then once Nash beat Goldberg that was it for Goldberg too. I don't deny Hogan's talent, just some of his politics killed WCW and contributed to enough fans jumping to WWF.
@@fizzyfuzz5878 wwf where Vince was doing the same thing. Difference was that stone cold was the best promo in the business and sting was silent. Stone cold Drew people in with his promos. Wcw Drew people in with anticipation. The fact is, Sting was in no shape to be the guy. It was a giant fumble for sure, but it was due to outside factors, booking adjusted. Bret coming in and trashing the entire last 2 years wouldn’t have helped wcw survive longer
Exactly... after sting beat hogan clean at starrcade 1998 Sold out 98- sting beats hogan in a cage and bret beats luger Superbrawl 98- sting beats savage and bret beats hogan Uncensored 98- sting beats hall and hogan beats bret Stampede 98- sting beats ddp and foundation beats outsiders Slamberee 98- sting and foundation beats outsiders and hogan Great American bash 98- sting beats giant and hogan and savage beats foundation Bash at the beach 98- sting beats nash and bret beats savage Road wild 98- sting beats Goldberg and bret beats savage Fall brawl-98 team wcw (sting, bret, warrior, ddp) beats nwo ( hogan, hall, nash, savage) Halloween havoc-98 sting beats warrior and bret beats ddp World War 3- bret wins 60 man battle royle eliminating Goldberg and sting beats jericho Starrcade-98 bret hart wins wcw title beating sting then 99 bret drops the belt to Goldberg passing the torch
I still bristle to this day about how WCW f--ked up the Bret/Sting rivalry. Basically they had 3 official matches and the best one was a match that was slapped together on a random Nitro in 1999 during the shitty Russo/Ferrara tenure and that match wasn't even the Main Event... 😢
It’s things like this and TNA, even aew now, that proves how important it is to have competent management and a good booker. Arguably just as important as the wrestlers themselves, these companies have had some of the best rosters and they have tv deals and stuff but the direction always feels so held back
I love seeing Bret’s work being celebrated so much nowadays. If you listen back he was always focused on being remembered for being great at what he did.
Why? He's so full of himself it's pathetic! "I was the best at this. I was the greatest at that. This guy said he thought I was the #1" He was BORING AF both in the ring and on the mic!
@@TeddyKGB12 I wouldnt call him boring. have ya seen his match with brittish bulldog? that was awesome. My favorite was him vs stone cold wrestlemania 13. if u havent watched that match go watch it. he can cut a pretty good promo too, yeah ik he isnt on the level of rock and austing but he can cut some pretty nice promos. yeah he can be full of himself but its just that if Vince Russo of all people and eric bischoff can do their own podcast then I dont see why Bret cant start his kwn
I met Mr. Hart in Alaska around 2018 or 2019 at a wrestling event and meet & greet. The experience was great. I had a real eye to eye contact with him and really got his attention and gave him a good handshake then told him thank you for what he did as a wrestler and entertainer and that I lost my father almost 20 years ago and he and I would watch some good matches and that he (Bret) was my favorite wrestler of all time and such an honor to meet him. So as I sat to get a picture on my phone for some stupid reason it wouldn't work and I said to him no worries that meeting him and shaking his hand was good enough and I was so in the moment that I forgot my good friend was there and said he'd take a picture for me and Bret insisted so I got my picture taken with him 😊 As I went back to the bleachers and as I watched the line shorten I remembered that they were selling both a picture and his bad ass shades and I really wanted them but I only had $20 left to my name. But I had been joking with the security guard that was standing at the spot to get down to where Bret and the other wrestlers were so I asked if he would let my slid on back down before they finished and I wasn't sure if he would but he did and when I got to where he has there were about five people left so I started a conversation with his son (nice young man) and as the last person finished I caught Mr. Hart getting out of his seat and again made eye contact and asked if he remembered me on line. He told me had with a true honest look in his eye and I thanked him again and asked about the photo and what it cost. So he sat back down and told me to talk to a guy behind me (watching the whole time) and the man told me $40 for a photo and $20 for the shades. So I all of sudden put a bit of awe bummer look on my face because I really wanted a photo but smiled and said "well I'll take the shades then, who do I pay". So the man points to Brett's son. I turn around give his son $20 and turn back to Bret and as I turn around I see him signing a picture for me handing both glasses and signed photo, smiles at me and what looked like a little here you go wink and told me thank you. I'll treasure that moment for as my mind is alive 🥲 When the introduced him half way through the show he mentioned something in the fact of meeting fans he great encounters with and he wouldn't forget. I felt like I was quit possibly one of those great fans 😌😏 Thank you again Mr. Hart to you and your family 💖 Hitman strong 💪💔😏
If I were Bischoff, I would've milked Bret's "Best there is, best there was, and best there ever will be" gimmick. He'll start from the bottom to the top like a damn career mode. Instead of not doing anything with him, I'd have him challenge all the best wrestlers in the WCW roster during that time until maybe it's time to challenge the champion.
@@meridiantelekoms If I were Bischoff and didn't believe Bret's big momentum wouldd last, I still would have booked him against Sting for SuperBrawl. You have Sting winning (throw in some shenanigans, but Sting wins without the Nick Patrick "fast" count bs), then the nWo rushes in and Bret saves the day before challenging Sting
I think the mistake they made with Bret was having him join the nWo. He could have gotten over as a big face. They could have had him come in, cut a promo on "up north" and then talk about how much he respected WCW for old time wrestling. He then could have said the nWo were a group of guys that want to destroy tradition in wrestling, like up north (because basically nWo was like code for WWF and sports entertainment). He could have laid out a challenge to any nWo member for a match next week. Then he could have started with easy wins over Vincent and then gotten up to mid cards with run-ins in matches with Buff, etc. Eventually leading to feuds with Hall and Nash and eventually Hogan at a Starcade. But of course, those guys wouldn't do that.
That is because the Booking was always extremely one-dimensional and basically what you described is sorta what they did with Goldberg. I dont disagree with you tho. Although I want to say, that I always would have loved to see him in a antivillian role, like being heel but for actually understandable and justifiable causes. Like him being so upset about the screwjob that he says "never again" and consequently goes on to win his matches "at all cost" meaning he would start to play dirty and outplay his opponents on a meta level (like he did with goldberg and the steel bodyprotector) and just be like this wrestling machine that does not shy away from anything to get the win and make sure he will "never again" be screwed over. You can eventually even integrate him into the nWo for all I care later down the line in some scheme he hatched out to try to destroy them from within and replace them with his own faction of goons, which would have played into the nWo Wolfpack storyline. Honestly they could have done anything with him and it would have been better than what they actually did (or didnt) do with him.
Not to mention they could've wrote it so that until he hit a certain level of guy, nobody really came out to interfere but once he really started getting into them and making a real ruckus, they could have someone come down to try and stop him, and have him overcome the interference to still win. Anything to have the nWo be challenged and presented with new obstacles to overcome.
Bert Clarke was essentially seen as a credible jobber for the guys the promoters wanted to push to beat to gain credibility. A high-paid enhancement talent, much like Ricky Steamboat, Stink and Krispen Wah.
Brett should of lived up to his hit man moniker and took out nwo jobbers one by one and wcw could of wrote them off TV firing them. Brett would never be seen taking these guys out . Nwo would think it was sting . Starcade comes the end of the match had hogan and sting tied . Brett's music hits hogan gets distracted. Brett walks out with a nwo member and throws them off the stage. Hogan get splashed scorpion death drop then scorpion submissioned into passing out. Call back to wm 13 . Sting points at brett as sting wins the match.wcw locker room runs out as brett stands there and walk back as everyone runs out. Setting up a tease for brett vs sting.thats how brett should of debuted. 😊
Everyone thought that when Brett went to WCW that it was going to be the end of the WWF but in reality, WCW had no idea how to use Bret which was worse than not having him there at all.
People don’t realize that Bret, as a young wrestler was booking Stampede Wrestling for his father. He would journal the angles and figured out what worked and what didn’t. There are valid reasons why Bret can see a bad angle or potential for doing good business with talent. Let’s not forget he pitched the Ladder Match, his storyline with Owen Hart, he pitched his Canadian Hero angle, and he pitched his match with Davy Boy Smith in Wembley. Hulk Hogan v. Bret Hart would have been money, but additionally he could have had great matches with Benoit, Scott Hall, Lance Storm, Mike Awesome,over the US title, or for the World Title with Kevin Nash, Booker T, Scott Steiner, Jeff Jarrett, Sting, Ric Flair, Sid Viscious, etc.
I absolutely love Bret! The WCW payroll records from those years are public so you can see he made between 2.6 and 2.8 million (not 250k a week like he mentioned). Hogan v Bret DID actually happen as a match but it was a terrible throw away match on Nitro. The angle was brets knee went out and couldn't continue. So it may as well not been a match. My fav quote from Bret referring to Bischoff is "oh we would love to put you with him but we can't bc its raining outside..." #GOAT
Keep in mind taxes and fees for an American company paying someone living in Canada. My dad works for an American company and his paycheck on paper is huge, but when he gets paid, it's reasonable.
Maybe he meant 25,000 a week more likely. That’s 1.3 mil after taxes. If he’s making 2.5-3mil a year it’s still - 40% federal taxes and whatever Canada took at the time
Still 20 some years after WCW folded, I can't help but think to myself how they were even able to ruin everything they had. From beating WWF in the ratings for 84 weeks to Russo putting the belt on himself and Arquette, there's an unending list of stupid ideas that slowly brought them down. Wrestlers from all levels on card could have benefited immensely from having two wrestling magnates in constant competition to choose from... 🤦
All very true... with just 1 fact that I always like to point out... like a true Wrestling mark! They weren't good at all... but the only reason they folder... was because Billionaire Ted lost controlling Powers after his merger with Time Warner!! Had the checks kept on coming in... there's no way they would've stunk for much longer with all the talent they had!!
They beat WWF in the ratings as a fluke/ageing talent combo. They were never going to win the war because they didn't know how to run a wrestling business. It was just old WWF talent in their twilight years giving WCW some attention for a short period until it was old-man walker time.
@@hoskins666 they probably wouldn’t have beaten wwf again but man they did everything they could to ruin wcw. It could’ve just been the 2nd wrestling promotion but they decided to destroy the entire company
It was awesome lol . they really slipped w/ bret . the way they booked Lance storm is the way they should have booked Bret 🤦🏿♂️ . or hell he should of been like their version of stine cold seeing the angle in wwe w/ Austin & Vince was based on Bret & Vince's altercation 🤷🏿♂️
I just wish they had used this match to defeat Goldbergs winning streak. The best there is, was, and ever will be using Intelligence to beat Goldberg instead of a caddle prod.
The lack of thought over Bret's debut was quite staggering, if you can't bring him in the night after Survivor Series then you have him arrive at Starrcade, driving the buy rate even higher.
I'm the biggest Bret fan, the best ever for me and I'm no Russon fan, but I feel bad for him here as Russo was a massive Bret fan and wanted WCW built around him.
Was El Dandy doing stuff back then? Because the only reason why I know his name is that Bret Hart promo. I think El Dandy vs Bret Hart would have been a great "Underdog vs Legend" feud, at least to give Bret something to do as US Champion!
eZe was a television producer. That's why he was in charge. And despite how it ended he did take a company from losing millions a year to profiting millions a year. And every company's success is, eventually, temporary (even, someday WWE's)
good for bret! i love seeing the videos you guys put up with him being funny! ive seen a lot of negative stuff online and a lot of hate about him being bitter and it starts to get to you to the point where you start to believe it. im glad to see him being the calm laid back guy that i always originally thought him to be! Poor guy has had it more rough that anyone i can think of in the business from a casual fan point of view
@@stuart3753 he’s Also been a BS artist his entire life. I am amazed how strong is cold believers are it doesn’t matter what he says they’ll just eat it up. They think they’re smart but that the ultimate works.
Not sure why he'd bash Vince Russo. Beyond the good stuff he wrote for him in WWF: Russo intended to build the entire WCW roster around Bret and push him back to a position of prominence. Which he was in the process of doing when Goldberg ended his career.
To be fair to Bischoff managing just Hogan's ego alone especially with his creative control clause in his contract was difficult enough but when you factor in all the other stars they had at the time it becomes nearly impossible to satisfy their ego's AND satisfy the fans as well
Bret has such a unique way of speaking that makes me love listening to him. He's very mellow, very dry but it actually enhances what he's talking about... imagine the Cat Bit being told by someone that laughs at their own jokes or is super loud: not as good! Also, props for actually saying a dollar amount!
Bret is my favorite wrestler of all time, and i love his honest shoot interviews, never holding anything back.that said, i do understand why people who dislike him feel like he is arrogant and puts himself over a bit too much.
I know Scott hall was kind of starting his downfall at that time but to see Brett and Scott do something when Brett 1st came in to WCW would have been amazing.
My idea would be to have Hall and Nash turn on Hogan and start the Wolfpack with Waltman and Bret, they could have been the new generation guys taking on and dismantling the NWO black and white.
When Bret says Bischoff and Russo dont know anything about wrestling. The Networks say the same thing about wrestlers. Ive read or heard in some interviews from others that the the specific reason Jim Herd was put in charge way back post 1988 is that (with the exception of Turner himself) TBS executives believed "wrestlers dont know how to run a company".
Bit of both. Aew needed to take creative from 100% eing controlled by the wrestlers after some serious dips, but they generally have some great ideas that should be listened to.
I think the El Dandy promo makes a lot of sense in this context. I can totally imagine Eric Bischoff (or, rather, someone like Vince McMahon) hearing Bret make a lot of requests for different people and force him to make a promo about it as a rib.
I'm sure there's a funny story in here somewhere, but I've reached the tipping point for how much I can listen to Bret like this. While this video is 2 years old, they are still coming out on a weekly basis, either recycled/freebooted, or occasionally as new shoot interviews covering the same old ground. I'm not pointing the finger solely at Inside The Ropes, most wrestling channels are doing it. I think it's long overdue that wrestling content creators start discussing whether they, as a community, want to focus on Bret's legacy as one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, or the revenue from propagating and feeding his bitterness and the heat he has with others in the industry. You can't really do both, at this stage his legacy has definitely been tarnished by interviewers continually giving a platform and questions which are only aiming to get that soundbite. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a Hitman fan who wasn't at least a little sad about how bitter Bret has become. He bears the ultimate responsibility for his mindset and responses, but he's not the only person responsible here.
During this time in my Youth, i was thinking....... dam... WCW just won the lottery with Bret. And not only because its BRET. But, the fact he got screwed and never really lost the WWF belt at the time. Kinda still made him the WWF champ. SO if anything, Eric could've made Bret a WCW champ soon as he arrived, and he would've been an undisputed champion of sorts. But, then again, it is WCW i am talking about at the end of the day.
I remember by the time Bret came over to WCW they had all of the talent. They had far more talent than they knew what to do with. There was no excuse for them to not have been the number one show. Instead WWE dominated the 1990s with just a handful of guys.
Absolutely love the note this video closes on. Sounds like Bret is about to start another sentence and then kinda cuts himself off to say "Idiot!" and he says it PERFECTLY! He really is the best!
I doubt he made $250k a week. Thats 12 million a year. It was probably $250k a month which is 3 million a year which ne said he signed for. Still great money.
Anyone else having Wrestling Bios flashbacks to Bret saying hi to his number one fan? Hi Smokey. He's my cat! when he brought that interview/promo up? Haha. Love it!
The Hogan feud would've made so much sense. It was a pre-existing rivalry from 92 that had never been paid off in the WWF. Plus Hogan had played politics to prevent Bret from winning at WM9. Bret joining the NWO never made sense for so many reasons but mainly because he never had any reason to stooge for Hogan.
Bret Hart should have been the culprit for the brand split. Scott Hall cheap shots Larry Z. causing Eric Bischoff to score the win. nWo wins NITRO. Then in a backstage segment; Nick Patrick is found beaten unconscious. JJ Dillion extends Bret Hart referee service for Hogan vs Sting. Sting beats Hogan. Sting takes World Heavyweight Championship to WCW THUNDER. Bret initially appears on both shows. Hogan calls out Bret for his 93 grudge (despite being just gifted the nWorld Heavyweight Championship.) Bret appears on Thunder to subliminally challenge Sting for the BIG GOLD. Is Bret Hart WCW or nWo? Bret Hart is HITMAN. His own brand.
Go back on the road with with your stories of wrestling .I'd go see it and many others would ❤️ The Hitman Brett Hart. Great Canadian and great story teller.When you were with WWE I drove to Calgary and found out where your Dad's house was .we drove up and there was an wrestling ring beside the house.Wish I could have met him . Any way Just thanks for the great memories.
I met Bret at a Giant Eagle grocery store in a suburb of Pittsburgh in the mid 90’s. I was browsing the bill candy section, (they still had it back then), and I saw a man picking root beer barrels out, unwrapping them, throwing the barrels away and eating the wrapper. I was perplexed, I asked him, “What gives?” He told me there is enough flavor stuck to the wrapper to assuage his sweet tooth and not grow a lumpy assSo brilliant! Changed my relationship with candy for the rest of my life. I started doing the same thing, within 6 months I had a major bowel obstruction and had to have 6 feet of my intestines removed, along with my colon. I now make bowel movements in a colostomy bag, but I never gained another pound and was able to kick my diabetes. That man eating the wrappers is, was, and always will be my hero. That man was Bret Hart.
WCW had the hottest star in the business in 97 when bret joined and they even managed to fuck that up!! when people call bischoff a genius my mind just goes boom.........
4:22 So Bret Hart called Nick Patrick after the match and Nick Patrick admitted that he forgot to Fast count ?!! wow . This is great evidence that Hulk Hogan has nothing to do with the Fast count problem and that it is Nick Patrick's fault. Thank you, Bret Hart 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I absolutely love The Hitman and he's 100% right about Bischoff and Russo, but it's funny how he never seems to carry this opinion about Vince McMahon despite all of the evidence. McMahon did three things. 1) He swallowed up all the territories 2) He gambled on the Wrestlemania concept (just like Bischoff gambled on Nitro and the NWO angle) and 3) He saw ECW and copied what they were doing on a bigger scale for The Attitude Era. That doesn't mean that he understands wrestling-- he understands spectacle. Bischoff did too. You read all sorts of stories about McMahon getting drunk with the wrestlers and then demanding that they do some kind of move to him. He was desperate to be one of the "boys" but he's a carnie POS. Hell, he won't even call the performers wrestlers and won't abide by anybody else doing it. They're "Superstars". There's a bit of Stockholm Syndrome happening with Bret and McMahon despite what happened in 1997. Unfortunately Bret isn't alone there.
That's not the point Bret was making. Vince Russo and Bischoff do not understand how to make wrestling popular, and almost all of their ideas were garbage (the NWO was really the only good idea they had, and they ran it into the ground). Vince McMahon is indeed not a guy who truly understands the sport of pro wrestling (he only likes his version of it, "Sports Entertainment"), but Bret does respect McMahon for giving wrestlers a platform to catapult themselves and pro wrestling into mainstream popularity, which it never experienced before. Compared to Bischoff and Russo, McMahon did know what he was doing, and without him, we wouldn't have Wrestlemania, which is still to this day the biggest spectacle in pro wrestling.
@@Rocket1377 I'm a Crockett guy and the Hitman is the epitome of a Crockett guy. Vince McMahon ruined professional wrestling as far as I'm concerned. I still remember when he canoodled his way onto the Turner networks in the 80's and his dismal product was thoroughly rejected. Wrestle Kingdom is the only major annual pro wrestling event in my mind. I could only laugh when I saw that Lesnar and Rousey were headlining Wrestlemania again.
@@Rocket1377 This is just wrong, man. For starters as soon as Russo got to WCW he made sure that Bret Hart was the centerpiece of the entire show. Was that a garbage idea? Did he not know what he was doing during that time when pushing Bret? Vince McMahon has been putting out a garbage product in WWE ever since Russo left. While I'm no fan of Bischoff, he knew how to beat WWF at their own game for 2 years straight. Tony Khan with all the money in the world could only dream of doing that.
I thought having him be apart of Starrcade 97 was a no brainer, it just seems like the wheels fell off the track as soon as he restarted the main event between Hogan and Sting when Hogan had won the match clean originally.
I agree but here’s the problem Bret vs hulk wrestling right away wouldn’t been good at that point because everyone wanted to see Sting Vs Hollywood Hogan. Now the following opponent yes hulk vs Bret. I would had put flair vs Bret a good feud there then the big one.
Smokey the cat wearing a pink and black singlet would have been amazing ! LOL ! Its sad to say that ridiculous gimmick Brett suggested in full sarcasm , wouldve been better than most they came up with for the best wrestler on the planet . So frustrating as a fan to see how Brett was treated there . At least he was getting paid good ! But I still hate that his career ended wrestling Greenburg . Brett is still THE MAN to me .
I remember in brets book he says they were in Canada the fans were outside for hours cheering bret waiting to get in. Bischoff went to bret who was a baby face obviously in Canada but in general and said to bret I want you to go out there and tell all the fans you dont need um. Bret was like why would I do that and Eric said because that would fool everyone lol. No follow up no rhyme or reason just yeah go do that and next week we will figure something out lol
always laughing tears when bret tells stories about bischoff, hogan and the whole wcw disaster. idk why but i laugh way harder about bret's calm told stories than i laugh about corny's screaming and ranting about everything. bret is so serious (in a good way), some don't know when he starts being sarcastic in such a funny way.
7:56 - 10:14 When he starts talking about his cat , i was laughing so hard i was shaking. I actually had to stop the video when he was talking about swinging the fake cat by the tail with the brick....and walk out of the room and take a brake, my eyes were watering and i thought i was gonna piss myself if i didn't stop the video, once i left the room i couldn't stop laughing for a couple minutes.
$250,000 a week? I don't think that math works out unless he was getting Hogan's checks by accident lol. $250,000 a month is more likely. He was making around $3 million a year.
I don’t know why people always ignore that the count was fast. There were 20 other things wrong with the match but that was the worst part because Sting beating Hogan straight up would have made all of the other things wrong not matter. That applies even if they would have done the count fast and have Sting get pinned. Babyfaces were bullshit pinned all the time and it never killed their heat as long as they got even. But that wasn’t the point of it all. The point was to protect Hogan who didn’t want to lose and try and pass the finish off as acceptable.
I personally would love to see Bret go on a tangent and bring a cat carrier to the ring ala Jake The Snake. Then swap a plush toy cat with a brick in his butt and then when the ref isn't looking; Bret takes the cat by the tail and knocks his opponent over the head with a brick cat butt. Bet PETA would LOVE "THAT"
Listening to Bret tell these stories validates me back then as a teenager and twenty something who would speculate what was going on behind the scenes 😂
Bret Hart on stage with ITR in October 2019, discussed his move to WCW, what he would’ve changed and he reveals the hilarious pitch he sarcastically made to Eric Bischoff. You won’t believe it! Subscribe to the channel for more clips of our live shows and interviews and don't forget to like and comment too!
That spot would have been legendary.
bret did fight hogan 3 times on wcw one on nitro and twice on house show.
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That cat idea doesn't sound so bad, to be fair. Obviously, someone else needs to be involved to switch carriers, but I can see that working. It may not necessarily work for Bret, but that would be a good spot for a comedic heel.
@@timothygraham4304 Bret barely talk about his cat
"Hulk Hogan only had ideas for Hulk Hogan. And the only idea he had for Hulk Hogan, was Hulk Hogan wins everything."
LolHulkWins. Patient 0 for LolCenaWins.
And Bret's so full of himself it's pathetic! "I was the best at this. I was the greatest at that. This guy said he thought I was the #1" He was BORING AF both in the ring and on the mic!
And it lead to the best ratings in wrestling history… twice over
@@theraVen27 We're talking WCW Hogan. Had Hogan just put over Sting after 18 months of build, WCW could still be around today. Hogan needed to know when it was time to put the right person over and/or share the spotlight. Even when he put over Goldberg, Hogan was still in the main event most of the time. Then once Nash beat Goldberg that was it for Goldberg too. I don't deny Hogan's talent, just some of his politics killed WCW and contributed to enough fans jumping to WWF.
@@fizzyfuzz5878 wwf where Vince was doing the same thing. Difference was that stone cold was the best promo in the business and sting was silent. Stone cold Drew people in with his promos. Wcw Drew people in with anticipation. The fact is, Sting was in no shape to be the guy. It was a giant fumble for sure, but it was due to outside factors, booking adjusted. Bret coming in and trashing the entire last 2 years wouldn’t have helped wcw survive longer
Bret: 'How about I just take a shit in the middle of the ring?'
Bischoff: 'I LOVE IT'
Russo: "Damn... Hart stole my idea, bro"
hogan: that doesnt work for me brother, im taking the shit DUDE
Scott Hall and Kevin Nash: How about we spit on that shit huh? It'll be more heat for us.
Ric Flair: "FOR EVERY WHITE BUMP YOU GIVE ME, I'LL TAKE A BROWN ONE, WOOOOOOOOO!!!"
Mizark Henry: Hey, hey, hey! I don't know what you're cookin'. Smells like shit. But I think I'll eat some anyway, heh-heh-heh-heh!
How did WCW blow a massive Bret vs Sting angle? It’s still mind blowing
They had a few matches, but they mostly booked Bret as a lameass heel who just went for everyone's legs with a steel chair.
Exactly... after sting beat hogan clean at starrcade 1998
Sold out 98- sting beats hogan in a cage and bret beats luger
Superbrawl 98- sting beats savage and bret beats hogan
Uncensored 98- sting beats hall and hogan beats bret
Stampede 98- sting beats ddp and foundation beats outsiders
Slamberee 98- sting and foundation beats outsiders and hogan
Great American bash 98- sting beats giant and hogan and savage beats foundation
Bash at the beach 98- sting beats nash and bret beats savage
Road wild 98- sting beats Goldberg and bret beats savage
Fall brawl-98 team wcw (sting, bret, warrior, ddp) beats nwo ( hogan, hall, nash, savage)
Halloween havoc-98 sting beats warrior and bret beats ddp
World War 3- bret wins 60 man battle royle eliminating Goldberg and sting beats jericho
Starrcade-98 bret hart wins wcw title beating sting then 99 bret drops the belt to Goldberg passing the torch
I still bristle to this day about how WCW f--ked up the Bret/Sting rivalry. Basically they had 3 official matches and the best one was a match that was slapped together on a random Nitro in 1999 during the shitty Russo/Ferrara tenure and that match wasn't even the Main Event... 😢
Man the way WCW had Bret Hart was just a tribute to how messed up they were..
It’s things like this and TNA, even aew now, that proves how important it is to have competent management and a good booker. Arguably just as important as the wrestlers themselves, these companies have had some of the best rosters and they have tv deals and stuff but the direction always feels so held back
Bret’s “I love it” hits like a comedy stand up punchline.
Perfectly said 😂
@@thepeoplesartist2863 He's even funnier because he doesn't really mean it to be.
@@alwilson3204 exactly 😆
@@alwilson3204he really does. He's just a dry Canadian
I love seeing Bret’s work being celebrated so much nowadays. If you listen back he was always focused on being remembered for being great at what he did.
Hilarious when he gets all fired up about Bischoff lol I could listen to Bret talk about wrestling forever.
I’m surprised he doesn’t have his own podcast
@@BluegillTCGV1 he could do the art work for the thumb nails too haha
🤣 me too I enjoy his talks and stories
Why? He's so full of himself it's pathetic! "I was the best at this. I was the greatest at that. This guy said he thought I was the #1" He was BORING AF both in the ring and on the mic!
@@TeddyKGB12 I wouldnt call him boring. have ya seen his match with brittish bulldog? that was awesome. My favorite was him vs stone cold wrestlemania 13. if u havent watched that match go watch it. he can cut a pretty good promo too, yeah ik he isnt on the level of rock and austing but he can cut some pretty nice promos. yeah he can be full of himself but its just that if Vince Russo of all people and eric bischoff can do their own podcast then I dont see why Bret cant start his kwn
I met Mr. Hart in Alaska around 2018 or 2019 at a wrestling event and meet & greet. The experience was great.
I had a real eye to eye contact with him and really got his attention and gave him a good handshake then told him thank you for what he did as a wrestler and entertainer and that I lost my father almost 20 years ago and he and I would watch some good matches and that he (Bret) was my favorite wrestler of all time and such an honor to meet him. So as I sat to get a picture on my phone for some stupid reason it wouldn't work and I said to him no worries that meeting him and shaking his hand was good enough and I was so in the moment that I forgot my good friend was there and said he'd take a picture for me and Bret insisted so I got my picture taken with him 😊
As I went back to the bleachers and as I watched the line shorten I remembered that they were selling both a picture and his bad ass shades and I really wanted them but I only had $20 left to my name. But I had been joking with the security guard that was standing at the spot to get down to where Bret and the other wrestlers were so I asked if he would let my slid on back down before they finished and I wasn't sure if he would but he did and when I got to where he has there were about five people left so I started a conversation with his son (nice young man) and as the last person finished I caught Mr. Hart getting out of his seat and again made eye contact and asked if he remembered me on line. He told me had with a true honest look in his eye and I thanked him again and asked about the photo and what it cost. So he sat back down and told me to talk to a guy behind me (watching the whole time) and the man told me $40 for a photo and $20 for the shades. So I all of sudden put a bit of awe bummer look on my face because I really wanted a photo but smiled and said "well I'll take the shades then, who do I pay". So the man points to Brett's son. I turn around give his son $20 and turn back to Bret and as I turn around I see him signing a picture for me handing both glasses and signed photo, smiles at me and what looked like a little here you go wink and told me thank you. I'll treasure that moment for as my mind is alive 🥲
When the introduced him half way through the show he mentioned something in the fact of meeting fans he great encounters with and he wouldn't forget. I felt like I was quit possibly one of those great fans 😌😏
Thank you again Mr. Hart to you and your family 💖
Hitman strong 💪💔😏
Awesome story, thanks for sharing!
Brett was a true old school proper wrestler!! Awesome you got to thank him!
This is the kind of story that really tells you when the wrestler is great. Love it
Benoit, Booker, Mysterio - a series with any one of those guys would’ve been AMAZING.
If I were Bischoff, I would've milked Bret's "Best there is, best there was, and best there ever will be" gimmick.
He'll start from the bottom to the top like a damn career mode. Instead of not doing anything with him, I'd have him challenge all the best wrestlers in the WCW roster during that time until maybe it's time to challenge the champion.
Bret had a BEST OF 7 with Booker T. Beat Chris Benoit at MAYHEM for BIG GOLD. Bret vs Mysterio would be killer.
Yeap. Technical vs Technical
@@meridiantelekoms If I were Bischoff and didn't believe Bret's big momentum wouldd last, I still would have booked him against Sting for SuperBrawl. You have Sting winning (throw in some shenanigans, but Sting wins without the Nick Patrick "fast" count bs), then the nWo rushes in and Bret saves the day before challenging Sting
@@dangxdc8348We should've gotten Bret vs. Rey & Owen Hart vs. Eddie Guerrero in our lifetimes. Frickin money baby.
I think the mistake they made with Bret was having him join the nWo. He could have gotten over as a big face. They could have had him come in, cut a promo on "up north" and then talk about how much he respected WCW for old time wrestling. He then could have said the nWo were a group of guys that want to destroy tradition in wrestling, like up north (because basically nWo was like code for WWF and sports entertainment). He could have laid out a challenge to any nWo member for a match next week. Then he could have started with easy wins over Vincent and then gotten up to mid cards with run-ins in matches with Buff, etc. Eventually leading to feuds with Hall and Nash and eventually Hogan at a Starcade. But of course, those guys wouldn't do that.
That is because the Booking was always extremely one-dimensional and basically what you described is sorta what they did with Goldberg. I dont disagree with you tho.
Although I want to say, that I always would have loved to see him in a antivillian role, like being heel but for actually understandable and justifiable causes. Like him being so upset about the screwjob that he says "never again" and consequently goes on to win his matches "at all cost" meaning he would start to play dirty and outplay his opponents on a meta level (like he did with goldberg and the steel bodyprotector) and just be like this wrestling machine that does not shy away from anything to get the win and make sure he will "never again" be screwed over. You can eventually even integrate him into the nWo for all I care later down the line in some scheme he hatched out to try to destroy them from within and replace them with his own faction of goons, which would have played into the nWo Wolfpack storyline.
Honestly they could have done anything with him and it would have been better than what they actually did (or didnt) do with him.
I love it!
Not to mention they could've wrote it so that until he hit a certain level of guy, nobody really came out to interfere but once he really started getting into them and making a real ruckus, they could have someone come down to try and stop him, and have him overcome the interference to still win. Anything to have the nWo be challenged and presented with new obstacles to overcome.
Bert Clarke was essentially seen as a credible jobber for the guys the promoters wanted to push to beat to gain credibility. A high-paid enhancement talent, much like Ricky Steamboat, Stink and Krispen Wah.
Brett should of lived up to his hit man moniker and took out nwo jobbers one by one and wcw could of wrote them off TV firing them. Brett would never be seen taking these guys out . Nwo would think it was sting . Starcade comes the end of the match had hogan and sting tied . Brett's music hits hogan gets distracted. Brett walks out with a nwo member and throws them off the stage. Hogan get splashed scorpion death drop then scorpion submissioned into passing out. Call back to wm 13 . Sting points at brett as sting wins the match.wcw locker room runs out as brett stands there and walk back as everyone runs out. Setting up a tease for brett vs sting.thats how brett should of debuted. 😊
Everyone thought that when Brett went to WCW that it was going to be the end of the WWF but in reality, WCW had no idea how to use Bret which was worse than not having him there at all.
They just buried him. That was worse than having 'no idea'
People don’t realize that Bret, as a young wrestler was booking Stampede Wrestling for his father. He would journal the angles and figured out what worked and what didn’t. There are valid reasons why Bret can see a bad angle or potential for doing good business with talent. Let’s not forget he pitched the Ladder Match, his storyline with Owen Hart, he pitched his Canadian Hero angle, and he pitched his match with Davy Boy Smith in Wembley. Hulk Hogan v. Bret Hart would have been money, but additionally he could have had great matches with Benoit, Scott Hall, Lance Storm, Mike Awesome,over the US title, or for the World Title with Kevin Nash, Booker T, Scott Steiner, Jeff Jarrett, Sting, Ric Flair, Sid Viscious, etc.
So, _THAT'S_ why Teddy Hart used to always bring his cat to the ring when he was in MLW!!!
lol
@@teddytoostonedhart5881 that username lmao
It was a disgrace how wcw didnt use Bret
Everyone should have saw it coming when he went to WCW-is-HulkHogan however, he just went for the money and retirement like the rest of WCW
The referee angle still makes me laugh.
Just the tip of the iceberg on Hulk Hogan's politicking.
I can’t think oc anyone else that’s so deadpan but can still have everyone in stitches so funny 😆
I absolutely love Bret! The WCW payroll records from those years are public so you can see he made between 2.6 and 2.8 million (not 250k a week like he mentioned). Hogan v Bret DID actually happen as a match but it was a terrible throw away match on Nitro. The angle was brets knee went out and couldn't continue. So it may as well not been a match. My fav quote from Bret referring to Bischoff is "oh we would love to put you with him but we can't bc its raining outside..." #GOAT
Keep in mind taxes and fees for an American company paying someone living in Canada. My dad works for an American company and his paycheck on paper is huge, but when he gets paid, it's reasonable.
Oh, and Canadian paychecks automatically subtract taxes from paychecks.
The cat wouldn't like the rain.
@@fujifilm5127 lol....so do American paychecks
Maybe he meant 25,000 a week more likely. That’s 1.3 mil after taxes. If he’s making 2.5-3mil a year it’s still - 40% federal taxes and whatever Canada took at the time
Still 20 some years after WCW folded, I can't help but think to myself how they were even able to ruin everything they had. From beating WWF in the ratings for 84 weeks to Russo putting the belt on himself and Arquette, there's an unending list of stupid ideas that slowly brought them down. Wrestlers from all levels on card could have benefited immensely from having two wrestling magnates in constant competition to choose from... 🤦
You are right. I have no idea why they made many good matches end in a dq finish with outside interference.
All very true... with just 1 fact that I always like to point out... like a true Wrestling mark! They weren't good at all... but the only reason they folder... was because Billionaire Ted lost controlling Powers after his merger with Time Warner!! Had the checks kept on coming in... there's no way they would've stunk for much longer with all the talent they had!!
@@biggbluh You're absolutely right: Turner's ego would have never let him concede victory to McMahon.
They beat WWF in the ratings as a fluke/ageing talent combo. They were never going to win the war because they didn't know how to run a wrestling business. It was just old WWF talent in their twilight years giving WCW some attention for a short period until it was old-man walker time.
@@hoskins666 they probably wouldn’t have beaten wwf again but man they did everything they could to ruin wcw. It could’ve just been the 2nd wrestling promotion but they decided to destroy the entire company
4:05 "he doesnt do a fast count it was totally fair and i jump in the ring and im like bs bs"
You think Bischoff can explain this or would he pull the "I don't remember BS"
My fave Bret WCW moment was when Goldberg speared him and Bret was wearing the steel plate.
That was truly a memorable moment for Bret in WCW. And I love that it was to Goldberg.
Mine was the match with Benoit on the Owen tribute show
It was awesome lol . they really slipped w/ bret . the way they booked Lance storm is the way they should have booked Bret 🤦🏿♂️ . or hell he should of been like their version of stine cold seeing the angle in wwe w/ Austin & Vince was based on Bret & Vince's altercation 🤷🏿♂️
I just wish they had used this match to defeat Goldbergs winning streak. The best there is, was, and ever will be using Intelligence to beat Goldberg instead of a caddle prod.
Man!!! You got to love Bret Hart!
Bret interviews are the best.
Eric Bischoff handled Bret Hart's arrival to WCW about as well as the host handled putting on his hat that morning.
The lack of thought over Bret's debut was quite staggering, if you can't bring him in the night after Survivor Series then you have him arrive at Starrcade, driving the buy rate even higher.
His debut was weeks before Starrcade on Nitro.
Eric was a yes man to keep the stars and certain ones happier
He had the taste of Hogan's hero on his mouth 24/7
Don't hold back, Bret. Tell us what you really think.
My childhood hero......... the best there is,, the best there was and the best there ever will be
I'm the biggest Bret fan, the best ever for me and I'm no Russon fan, but I feel bad for him here as Russo was a massive Bret fan and wanted WCW built around him.
Yeah Russo was the first time Bret was even used properly - he was finally in the main event and winning the world title.
He’s still not wrong about Russo not knowing anything about wrestling. As his track record shows him running wrestling companies to the ground.
The greatest travesty in WCW...not seeing Bret Hart vs El Dandy...
Straight goods my friend 😃
Was El Dandy doing stuff back then? Because the only reason why I know his name is that Bret Hart promo. I think El Dandy vs Bret Hart would have been a great "Underdog vs Legend" feud, at least to give Bret something to do as US Champion!
I was always pissed that we didn't get to see a La Parka feud. The money drawn but alas that's WCW.
How about hypnosis?
Jam up guys
eZe was a television producer. That's why he was in charge. And despite how it ended he did take a company from losing millions a year to profiting millions a year. And every company's success is, eventually, temporary (even, someday WWE's)
good for bret! i love seeing the videos you guys put up with him being funny! ive seen a lot of negative stuff online and a lot of hate about him being bitter and it starts to get to you to the point where you start to believe it. im glad to see him being the calm laid back guy that i always originally thought him to be! Poor guy has had it more rough that anyone i can think of in the business from a casual fan point of view
2 people who ,know wrestling , Bret Hart / Jim Cornette, always tell it like it is
Cornette is too stuck in the 70's that never drew much money.
Two of the biggest crybabies ever
@@stuart3753 he’s Also been a BS artist his entire life. I am amazed how strong is cold believers are it doesn’t matter what he says they’ll just eat it up. They think they’re smart but that the ultimate works.
Not sure why he'd bash Vince Russo. Beyond the good stuff he wrote for him in WWF: Russo intended to build the entire WCW roster around Bret and push him back to a position of prominence. Which he was in the process of doing when Goldberg ended his career.
To be fair to Bischoff managing just Hogan's ego alone especially with his creative control clause in his contract was difficult enough but when you factor in all the other stars they had at the time it becomes nearly impossible to satisfy their ego's AND satisfy the fans as well
Bret,s Storytelling about wrestling is Hillarious 😆🤣😂😹
You can tell Bret really cares for Eric.
🤣🤣 most definitely 😂
Bret has such a unique way of speaking that makes me love listening to him.
He's very mellow, very dry but it actually enhances what he's talking about... imagine the Cat Bit being told by someone that laughs at their own jokes or is super loud: not as good!
Also, props for actually saying a dollar amount!
"Bischoff, how about something you really hate?"
"I love it."
It’s like Vince McMahon told Bret before he left. WCW would never know what to do with a Bret hart
Austin told him the same thing, according to Bret. Per Bret "They don't know what the fuck they're doing down there" lol
Bret Hart's bitterness is a huge inspiration for CM Punk's character. People don't realize.
Bret is my favorite wrestler of all time, and i love his honest shoot interviews, never holding anything back.that said, i do understand why people who dislike him feel like he is arrogant and puts himself over a bit too much.
I know Scott hall was kind of starting his downfall at that time but to see Brett and Scott do something when Brett 1st came in to WCW would have been amazing.
Scott and his 3 moves ?
My idea would be to have Hall and Nash turn on Hogan and start the Wolfpack with Waltman and Bret, they could have been the new generation guys taking on and dismantling the NWO black and white.
Bret Hart and Sting vs Hulk Hogan and Scott Hall would have COOKED
5:52 that hit me that’s literally aew and wwe right now
Except no one important from aew has went to wwe….
@@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin Daniel Bryan?
@@thiccytanny4489 no but Cody Rhodes seems likely
Bret was on fire in 97 & how does wcw book him for Starrcade, by having him referee Eric Bischoff vs zabyscko lol
🥰Love Bret always. THE Best there is the Best he was always!🤗😘
When Bret says Bischoff and Russo dont know anything about wrestling. The Networks say the same thing about wrestlers. Ive read or heard in some interviews from others that the the specific reason Jim Herd was put in charge way back post 1988 is that (with the exception of Turner himself) TBS executives believed "wrestlers dont know how to run a company".
Bit of both. Aew needed to take creative from 100% eing controlled by the wrestlers after some serious dips, but they generally have some great ideas that should be listened to.
Interesting story Bret Hart revealed during his tenure at WCW.
I think the El Dandy promo makes a lot of sense in this context. I can totally imagine Eric Bischoff (or, rather, someone like Vince McMahon) hearing Bret make a lot of requests for different people and force him to make a promo about it as a rib.
Bret was just TFS Vegeta saying "I'm surrounded by idiots." Screaming internally when Bischoff approved of a pitch. Lol
I remember tuning into WCW as it was on ordinary TV but week to week I had no idea what was going on
You knew there would be a run in during the main event every week practically.
I'm sure there's a funny story in here somewhere, but I've reached the tipping point for how much I can listen to Bret like this. While this video is 2 years old, they are still coming out on a weekly basis, either recycled/freebooted, or occasionally as new shoot interviews covering the same old ground. I'm not pointing the finger solely at Inside The Ropes, most wrestling channels are doing it.
I think it's long overdue that wrestling content creators start discussing whether they, as a community, want to focus on Bret's legacy as one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, or the revenue from propagating and feeding his bitterness and the heat he has with others in the industry. You can't really do both, at this stage his legacy has definitely been tarnished by interviewers continually giving a platform and questions which are only aiming to get that soundbite.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find a Hitman fan who wasn't at least a little sad about how bitter Bret has become. He bears the ultimate responsibility for his mindset and responses, but he's not the only person responsible here.
During this time in my Youth, i was thinking....... dam... WCW just won the lottery with Bret. And not only because its BRET. But, the fact he got screwed and never really lost the WWF belt at the time. Kinda still made him the WWF champ. SO if anything, Eric could've made Bret a WCW champ soon as he arrived, and he would've been an undisputed champion of sorts. But, then again, it is WCW i am talking about at the end of the day.
I remember by the time Bret came over to WCW they had all of the talent. They had far more talent than they knew what to do with. There was no excuse for them to not have been the number one show. Instead WWE dominated the 1990s with just a handful of guys.
*wwf in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's
Thats why they started Thunder, but it was lame
It's the law of diminishing returns. Having too much talent on a roster is a problem if you don't have any idea how to use it,
Absolutely love the note this video closes on. Sounds like Bret is about to start another sentence and then kinda cuts himself off to say "Idiot!" and he says it PERFECTLY! He really is the best!
I doubt he made $250k a week. Thats 12 million a year. It was probably $250k a month which is 3 million a year which ne said he signed for. Still great money.
Tell it Bret! I'd be pissed off too, if my boss used up my last years and let a dummy actually END it in the ring.
Anyone else having Wrestling Bios flashbacks to Bret saying hi to his number one fan? Hi Smokey. He's my cat! when he brought that interview/promo up? Haha. Love it!
LOL, There's a youtube video of the nitro where he talks about his cat smokey.
Truly love hearing Bret’s interviews he’s a great wrestling mind and definitely one of my favorites
Nobody:
Bret: 'My cat...?'
Eric Bischoff: 'I Love It!'
The Hogan feud would've made so much sense. It was a pre-existing rivalry from 92 that had never been paid off in the WWF. Plus Hogan had played politics to prevent Bret from winning at WM9. Bret joining the NWO never made sense for so many reasons but mainly because he never had any reason to stooge for Hogan.
Bret Hart should have been the culprit for the brand split. Scott Hall cheap shots Larry Z. causing Eric Bischoff to score the win. nWo wins NITRO. Then in a backstage segment; Nick Patrick is found beaten unconscious. JJ Dillion extends Bret Hart referee service for Hogan vs Sting. Sting beats Hogan. Sting takes World Heavyweight Championship to WCW THUNDER. Bret initially appears on both shows. Hogan calls out Bret for his 93 grudge (despite being just gifted the nWorld Heavyweight Championship.) Bret appears on Thunder to subliminally challenge Sting for the BIG GOLD. Is Bret Hart WCW or nWo? Bret Hart is HITMAN. His own brand.
Come on Brett the cat idea was GOLD! IT WOULD'VE PUT THE ASSES IN THE SEATS! 🤣🐈
Is it possible to watch this whole show somewhere?
Paying Bret $250k per week with zero return on investment because he wasn't used. Of course they went bankrupt.
Bret the cat man hart 🤣
And weirdly enough Teddy Hart actually brings his cat to the ring...😳
Viva El Dandy!
3:48 Comedy Gold with the fast count!!
Go back on the road with with your stories of wrestling .I'd go see it and many others would ❤️ The Hitman Brett Hart. Great Canadian and great story teller.When you were with WWE I drove to Calgary and found out where your Dad's house was .we drove up and there was an wrestling ring beside the house.Wish I could have met him . Any way Just thanks for the great memories.
I met Bret at a Giant Eagle grocery store in a suburb of Pittsburgh in the mid 90’s. I was browsing the bill candy section, (they still had it back then), and I saw a man picking root beer barrels out, unwrapping them, throwing the barrels away and eating the wrapper. I was perplexed, I asked him, “What gives?” He told me there is enough flavor stuck to the wrapper to assuage his sweet tooth and not grow a lumpy assSo brilliant! Changed my relationship with candy for the rest of my life. I started doing the same thing, within 6 months I had a major bowel obstruction and had to have 6 feet of my intestines removed, along with my colon. I now make bowel movements in a colostomy bag, but I never gained another pound and was able to kick my diabetes. That man eating the wrappers is, was, and always will be my hero. That man was Bret Hart.
WCW had the hottest star in the business in 97 when bret joined and they even managed to fuck that up!! when people call bischoff a genius my mind just goes boom.........
4:22 So Bret Hart called Nick Patrick after the match and Nick Patrick admitted that he forgot to Fast count ?!! wow . This is great evidence that Hulk Hogan has nothing to do with the Fast count problem and that it is Nick Patrick's fault. Thank you, Bret Hart 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nick Patrick was a terrible ref as it was so I believe Bret here lol
I absolutely love The Hitman and he's 100% right about Bischoff and Russo, but it's funny how he never seems to carry this opinion about Vince McMahon despite all of the evidence. McMahon did three things. 1) He swallowed up all the territories 2) He gambled on the Wrestlemania concept (just like Bischoff gambled on Nitro and the NWO angle) and 3) He saw ECW and copied what they were doing on a bigger scale for The Attitude Era. That doesn't mean that he understands wrestling-- he understands spectacle. Bischoff did too.
You read all sorts of stories about McMahon getting drunk with the wrestlers and then demanding that they do some kind of move to him. He was desperate to be one of the "boys" but he's a carnie POS. Hell, he won't even call the performers wrestlers and won't abide by anybody else doing it. They're "Superstars".
There's a bit of Stockholm Syndrome happening with Bret and McMahon despite what happened in 1997. Unfortunately Bret isn't alone there.
That's not the point Bret was making. Vince Russo and Bischoff do not understand how to make wrestling popular, and almost all of their ideas were garbage (the NWO was really the only good idea they had, and they ran it into the ground).
Vince McMahon is indeed not a guy who truly understands the sport of pro wrestling (he only likes his version of it, "Sports Entertainment"), but Bret does respect McMahon for giving wrestlers a platform to catapult themselves and pro wrestling into mainstream popularity, which it never experienced before. Compared to Bischoff and Russo, McMahon did know what he was doing, and without him, we wouldn't have Wrestlemania, which is still to this day the biggest spectacle in pro wrestling.
@@Rocket1377 I'm a Crockett guy and the Hitman is the epitome of a Crockett guy. Vince McMahon ruined professional wrestling as far as I'm concerned.
I still remember when he canoodled his way onto the Turner networks in the 80's and his dismal product was thoroughly rejected.
Wrestle Kingdom is the only major annual pro wrestling event in my mind. I could only laugh when I saw that Lesnar and Rousey were headlining Wrestlemania again.
@@Rocket1377 This is just wrong, man. For starters as soon as Russo got to WCW he made sure that Bret Hart was the centerpiece of the entire show. Was that a garbage idea? Did he not know what he was doing during that time when pushing Bret? Vince McMahon has been putting out a garbage product in WWE ever since Russo left.
While I'm no fan of Bischoff, he knew how to beat WWF at their own game for 2 years straight. Tony Khan with all the money in the world could only dream of doing that.
Mcmahon didn't copy ecw. Hardcore wrestling was Alive when ecw stood for Eastern championship wrestling. Vince also owned ecw.
I’ll never get tired hearing Bret Hart bash Eric Bischoff.
I thought having him be apart of Starrcade 97 was a no brainer, it just seems like the wheels fell off the track as soon as he restarted the main event between Hogan and Sting when Hogan had won the match clean originally.
I agree but here’s the problem Bret vs hulk wrestling right away wouldn’t been good at that point because everyone wanted to see Sting Vs Hollywood Hogan. Now the following opponent yes hulk vs Bret. I would had put flair vs Bret a good feud there then the big one.
Smokey the cat wearing a pink and black singlet would have been amazing ! LOL ! Its sad to say that ridiculous gimmick Brett suggested in full sarcasm , wouldve been better than most they came up with for the best wrestler on the planet . So frustrating as a fan to see how Brett was treated there . At least he was getting paid good ! But I still hate that his career ended wrestling Greenburg . Brett is still THE MAN to me .
I remember in brets book he says they were in Canada the fans were outside for hours cheering bret waiting to get in. Bischoff went to bret who was a baby face obviously in Canada but in general and said to bret I want you to go out there and tell all the fans you dont need um. Bret was like why would I do that and Eric said because that would fool everyone lol. No follow up no rhyme or reason just yeah go do that and next week we will figure something out lol
always laughing tears when bret tells stories about bischoff, hogan and the whole wcw disaster. idk why but i laugh way harder about bret's calm told stories than i laugh about corny's screaming and ranting about everything. bret is so serious (in a good way), some don't know when he starts being sarcastic in such a funny way.
Bret isn’t a mark for himself as much as he’s utterly bewildered that he’s surrounded by so many people who are marks for stupidity
Love Bret, but Hogan had it in his contract that he had creative control.
Like Bret or not he’s right about Russo and Bishoff and Bret wrestling Hogan would have been amazing Bret’s a freakin genius and they can’t accept it
Bret Hart Classic lol
7:56 - 10:14 When he starts talking about his cat , i was laughing so hard i was shaking. I actually had to stop the video when he was talking about swinging the fake cat by the tail with the brick....and walk out of the room and take a brake, my eyes were watering and i thought i was gonna piss myself if i didn't stop the video, once i left the room i couldn't stop laughing for a couple minutes.
Here is the video of Bret Hart talking about his cat - th-cam.com/video/Hst7EBNGVwM/w-d-xo.html
Bret is dry as a cracker and Hilarious... I just love his delivery!
07:38 Wrestling in a nutshell 🤣🤣🤣
I remember being so hyped for Bret’s wcw debut and after seeing they weren’t doing crap with him I quit watching nitro.
The cat would have been over like Moppy
Bret definitely has the jam!
Hes got the Jam, but Shawn Michaels doesnt
@@austinsmith7731 Dudes a stinky no good hyena.
$250,000 a week? I don't think that math works out unless he was getting Hogan's checks by accident lol. $250,000 a month is more likely. He was making around $3 million a year.
He for sure meant per month cause 250k per month is 3 million.
i think hogan was making a million a month so that 250,000 a week works out for Hogan.
@@SuCKeRPunCH187 Yet he still went fucking broke. It's damn near impossible to go through that much money, but Hogan found a way.
I don’t know why people always ignore that the count was fast. There were 20 other things wrong with the match but that was the worst part because Sting beating Hogan straight up would have made all of the other things wrong not matter. That applies even if they would have done the count fast and have Sting get pinned. Babyfaces were bullshit pinned all the time and it never killed their heat as long as they got even. But that wasn’t the point of it all. The point was to protect Hogan who didn’t want to lose and try and pass the finish off as acceptable.
The only reason bret didnt do the cat thing was they were afraid jake the snake would sue them
I personally would love to see Bret go on a tangent and bring a cat carrier to the ring ala Jake The Snake.
Then swap a plush toy cat with a brick in his butt and then when the ref isn't looking; Bret takes the cat by the tail and knocks his opponent over the head with a brick cat butt.
Bet PETA would LOVE "THAT"
This is the most the hitman has made me laugh! He’s great!!!
Ridiculous idea? Yep.
Hilarious to see? Yep
Believing Bischoff claiming it didn't happen? Hell no.
Listening to Bret tell these stories validates me back then as a teenager and twenty something who would speculate what was going on behind the scenes 😂
4:00 my thoughts when watching exactly xD
Geez, I swear Brett’s head grew during the course of this interview. Literally. lol
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