Mr. Miranda this was a helpful video and most detailers let alone car owners don't know how much clear coat is on a car or if their paint is soft or hard. Thank you for making this video.
Awesome video as Jason and Rupes know their detailing better than I do. Stay within their system and you will always have outstanding results. Thank you for sharing an educational video!
Starting out with polishing, and I don't have all the technology to find out what the thickness of clear coat, I always start with a compound that is very light and see what happens, thanks for the information! David's Detailing
Hi. You could. I would find a good shop. Plus it would be expensive to get it done right. Never should one get a cheap clear coat storage job. It will cause more headaches than anything. But that’s a viable but expensive option.
Another belief that people have, "If I take off too much clear from Compounding, I will just add another later of coating". Folks, NO coating is as good as your baked on factory clear. If you hear a detailer tell you what I just quoted? RUN away. See alot of this of late. Seems everyone tries to be a detailer until they get sued once. Then career change. haha. Common sense goes a LONG way folks.
Hey Phil can you please clarify using a paint depth gauge, I was under the impression that the number on the gauge would be divided into thirds, primer, base coat, clear coat, but what I’m hearing is that half the reading is clear coat? I know this isn’t an exact science and I’m probably over thinking it, great video my friend 👍😁
Hi. Well it’s not exactly knowable unless you are there at the plant where they paint the cars and know how they program the painters. But for the past 20 or so years detail experts like Jason Rose and Michael Phillips have done experiments with that and have found it to generally be 1mil for primer, 1 mil for paint, and 2+ mils for clear coat. Clear coat is always put on thicker to allow for wet sanding and dust nid correction after.
The thinnest paint I have ever encountered on a new car was 1.9 mils on the hood of a 2023 Mazda CX5. The owner contacted me prior to purchasing the car and I told him to explicitly tell the dealership not to wash the car or do anything to it prior to delivery. I ceramic coated it with Gyeon Mohs for him and he maintains it with Gyeon products I ordered for him.
Awesome video. I’ve learnt the hard way in the past I do have a depth gauge now and it also helps the customer understand why you don’t want to chase those scratches completely out. Showing a customer how thin paints are now really does help.
Hi Phil, really Great Video! One quick question; just confirming, you don't have to use a panel prep after wiping off the Uno Advanced, correct? Thanks in advance. You're the best!
Hi. Thanks. Nope. No need to use a panel wipe for uno advanced or Rupes Pure. Advanced already has ceramic protection in the formula so a panel wipe would negate that. 😎👍🏼
Hi. Well there are many types of polishing. You could use an aggressive pad and compound and cut heavy. Or you could use a very soft pad and gentle polish and just use that to increase gloss without removing anything. So for most coatings if you use a soft pad and a product dedicated to just cleaning the surface it won’t remove the coating, it will just graze over it.
soft foam pads and gentle polishes don’t have enough cut or abrasive properties to remove coatings. Plus products like Uno advance, carpro essence plus are formulated to revive coatings, basically chemically cleaning the top surface and reviving the coating. Pretty cool stuff. 👍🏼👍🏼
cause at the end of the day is saying we want to customers want to and phill survive the winter and if you need 5 led lights to see light scratches but after the winter paint is half gone give light scratches .in a 2016 opel corsa i have those.and weather get better in febuari
I know there is a manufacturers table going around by pro detailers like myself and we have some idea of hardness but not thickness. Do you guys have some table or should it be done?
Hi. I haven’t heard of that before. Hardness or softness is usually pretty easy to determine. But thickness varies so much, that’s why I trust the gauges when taking measurements on any vehicle that I need to.
According to automotive manufactures the clear coat thickness remaining the same. Is getting thinner the primer and the base coat. Paint thickness gauges cannot tell how much is the clear coat so what the usage on correction ?
@@ocshine.detailing as i know there are no such instruments in open market. Gauges that measures independent layers are available only for.labs and cost many thousands dollars
Like Jason said. those expensive ones are not accruate with automotive paint systems. the $200-$300 ones are more accurate with automotive paint systems.
Very informative thanks for the video I’m interested in the uno advanced, do you know how big of any area I can apply that in what speed and what pads for that product for non coated car ? Thanks for the video
Thanks. It doesn’t really matter how big of an area. You can work the polish for a long time over a 2x2 or 3x3 or larger area. Pads are really up to you and speed also. Do a test spot to see how the paint responds. Then change something if you need to.
Mr. Miranda this was a helpful video and most detailers let alone car owners don't know how much clear coat is on a car or if their paint is soft or hard. Thank you for making this video.
Thank you for watching! Please share it if you can. 😎👍🏼
Great information. I'm getting ready to correct my black 2019 Bullitt and this will help.
Thanks! Thanks awesome!
Good video. Yvan from Diy has been saying for years to aim for shiny scratches. Preservation over perfection.
Very true! 😎👍🏼
That was one of my favorite videos ever. Any channel. Thank you, to, you and your wife for all of your content.
Thanks so much! 😎👍🏼
Love your collaboration with Jason!
This was great and educational Phil always a delight to watch like minded people have a great conversation.
Thanks!
Great Info, Phil!!
Thanks! 😎👍🏼
Awesome video as Jason and Rupes know their detailing better than I do. Stay within their system and you will always have outstanding results. Thank you for sharing an educational video!
Thanks!
Starting out with polishing, and I don't have all the technology to find out what the thickness of clear coat, I always start with a compound that is very light and see what happens, thanks for the information! David's Detailing
Excellent strategy! 😎👍🏼
I was just wondering can I have an autobody shop spray on another layer of clearcoat?
Hi. You could. I would find a good shop. Plus it would be expensive to get it done right. Never should one get a cheap clear coat storage job. It will cause more headaches than anything.
But that’s a viable but expensive option.
Now this is quality content! Informative and straight to the point with great details.
Thanks!! Please share it!
@@MirandaDetailing I will share it like I stole it.
Fantastic video!! Paint is the most expensive part of a vehicle. Definitely worth while to educate yourself
Thanks! Exactly! 😎👍🏼
Very informative video. I always say if Jason Rose is talking you should be listening. I know I am. 👌
Exactly!! 😎👍🏼
Phil what a great informative video. Love these.
Thanks!!
Fantastic video Phil 💪💪
Thanks! 😎👍🏼
Another belief that people have, "If I take off too much clear from Compounding, I will just add another later of coating". Folks, NO coating is as good as your baked on factory clear. If you hear a detailer tell you what I just quoted? RUN away. See alot of this of late. Seems everyone tries to be a detailer until they get sued once. Then career change. haha. Common sense goes a LONG way folks.
Exactly!! Great point to share! Thanks! 😎👍🏼
Another great and informative video, thank you
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this informative information.
Thanks for watching! Please share!
Very interesting on uno+ as a coating refresher
Very informative video Phill
Glad you enjoyed it
Hey Phil can you please clarify using a paint depth gauge, I was under the impression that the number on the gauge would be divided into thirds, primer, base coat, clear coat, but what I’m hearing is that half the reading is clear coat? I know this isn’t an exact science and I’m probably over thinking it, great video my friend 👍😁
Hi. Well it’s not exactly knowable unless you are there at the plant where they paint the cars and know how they program the painters. But for the past 20 or so years detail experts like Jason Rose and Michael Phillips have done experiments with that and have found it to generally be 1mil for primer, 1 mil for paint, and 2+ mils for clear coat. Clear coat is always put on thicker to allow for wet sanding and dust nid correction after.
@@MirandaDetailing thanks so much for the reply Phil, always learning 👍😁
Well said brother...
The thinnest paint I have ever encountered on a new car was 1.9 mils on the hood of a 2023 Mazda CX5. The owner contacted me prior to purchasing the car and I told him to explicitly tell the dealership not to wash the car or do anything to it prior to delivery. I ceramic coated it with Gyeon Mohs for him and he maintains it with Gyeon products I ordered for him.
Wow! Yup. I’ve seen that on Mazdas before. Crazy!
Amazing video and content good friend
Great stuff Phil
Thanks! 😎👍🏼
Awesome video. I’ve learnt the hard way in the past I do have a depth gauge now and it also helps the customer understand why you don’t want to chase those scratches completely out. Showing a customer how thin paints are now really does help.
Me too!! Yes I use the gauge more for proof of the thinness of the paint to show the customer. It gives the Detailer and the customer assurance.
Hi Phil, really Great Video! One quick question; just confirming, you don't have to use a panel prep after wiping off the Uno Advanced, correct? Thanks in advance. You're the best!
Hi. Thanks. Nope. No need to use a panel wipe for uno advanced or Rupes Pure.
Advanced already has ceramic protection in the formula so a panel wipe would negate that. 😎👍🏼
Thanks Phil, that's what I thought but I just wanted to be sure!@@MirandaDetailing
Good info. As a newbie I’m trying to understand how polishing wouldn’t remove a coating?
Hi. Well there are many types of polishing. You could use an aggressive pad and compound and cut heavy. Or you could use a very soft pad and gentle polish and just use that to increase gloss without removing anything. So for most coatings if you use a soft pad and a product dedicated to just cleaning the surface it won’t remove the coating, it will just graze over it.
@@MirandaDetailing interesting. I guess in my mind I always figured any mechanical abrasion would remove the coating
soft foam pads and gentle polishes don’t have enough cut or abrasive properties to remove coatings. Plus products like Uno advance, carpro essence plus are formulated to revive coatings, basically chemically cleaning the top surface and reviving the coating. Pretty cool stuff. 👍🏼👍🏼
Nice with Jason Rose 👍🏼
cause at the end of the day is saying we want to customers want to and phill survive the winter
and if you need 5 led lights to see light scratches but after the winter paint is half gone give light scratches .in a 2016 opel corsa i have those.and weather get better in febuari
I’m a first time BMW owner (230i with Black Sapphire) What is the quality of BMW’s paint? Thanks! New subscriber. Pan recommended your channel.
Hi. Sorry for the delay. Usually BMW is pretty hard. but it all depends on the year and color.
I know there is a manufacturers table going around by pro detailers like myself and we have some idea of hardness but not thickness. Do you guys have some table or should it be done?
Hi. I haven’t heard of that before. Hardness or softness is usually pretty easy to determine. But thickness varies so much, that’s why I trust the gauges when taking measurements on any vehicle that I need to.
1st from Canada 🇨🇦
According to automotive manufactures the clear coat thickness remaining the same. Is getting thinner the primer and the base coat.
Paint thickness gauges cannot tell how much is the clear coat so what the usage on correction ?
I agree. Only very expensive tools can gauge properly, not a $200 gadget
@@ocshine.detailing as i know there are no such instruments in open market. Gauges that measures independent layers are available only for.labs and cost many thousands dollars
Like Jason said. those expensive ones are not accruate with automotive paint systems. the $200-$300 ones are more accurate with automotive paint systems.
@@MirandaDetailing thanks Phil keep up, my kind regards
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Very informative thanks for the video I’m interested in the uno advanced, do you know how big of any area I can apply that in what speed and what pads for that product for non coated car ?
Thanks for the video
Thanks. It doesn’t really matter how big of an area. You can work the polish for a long time over a 2x2 or 3x3 or larger area.
Pads are really up to you and speed also. Do a test spot to see how the paint responds. Then change something if you need to.