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This is such an awesome video! Kudos to you for thinking this up. The only critiques I have (towards the AI) are as follows: • They could sometimes get quite repetitive. It starts out flexible & diverse, but the discussion quickly begins to go in circles. • They make lots of assumptions such as the validity of the Bible or Qur’an as historical sources, without questioning them. For example, John’s Gospel (which made up the bulk of discussion) isn’t even a historically reliable source according to most scholars, and it was written very late and even contradicts the previous gospels (which completely lack the ‘I Am’ statements of Jesus’ alleged divinity). Or, consider that Paul wasn’t even a disciple to begin with, yet the Christian AI readily quoted his writings as if they are authoritative. The Muslim AI should’ve questioned this, especially since there’s a stark contrast between the teachings of Jesus versus the teachings of Paul. The list can go on - but overall I found this stimulating, fun, educational, and highly enjoyable. Thanks for posting, and I can’t wait to see more videos like this! Peace, Your friendly Muslim viewer *_”And do not debate with the People of the Bible, except in the most polite & dignified manner.”_* ~ _The Qur’an __29:46_ ❤
The muslim AI may say, well... other than pedophilia, numerous murders, armed robberies, slave trafficking, rape of captured slaves, torture of prisoners, etc., Mohammed was a very moral man of his time! LOL
Ha. Exactly! After watching human emotion derail so many debates it was refreshing to hear point, counterpoint… not perfect, but hopefully headed in the right direction. I even programmed a line that said “at times, you get frustrated with your opponent…” to test if they would break with their respectful discourse.
@@djjinersonYou guys forget the end of that statement, No man comes to the father by through me, the central issue is not Yeshua it’s Yehovah, Yeshua isYehovahs provision by who we go through to have a restored relationship with the father.
*What your imams don't tell you* Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*
@@Hannestv4607 brother i dont think u know what ur sayin. 1 show me where Allah(swt) testifies this, 2 the writer of the Quran is Allah(swt) bro, then it was revealed to the prohpet(pbuh)
My friend. Are you saying that the Word of Allah does not exist according to the Quran? The Word of Allah is the Son of God! Son of God does not mean that God has a child!
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;* as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *this is a mistake in the Qur'an!*
There’s one small problem… The Bible clearly says, and it was written before the Quran that if we are an angel preach any other message any other gospel let them be acursed… this is exactly what happened with the Muslim faith… While in a cave, Mohammed, was accosted by supposedly the Angel Gabriel, and given a new gospel. this completely contradicts what was just written
Allah means God in Arabic. In the God cited 25 among the thousands. The 25 prophets cited are: Adam (Adam) Idriss (Enoch) Nouh (Noah) Houd Salih Ibrahim (Abraham) Ismâ’îl (Sam) Is-hâq (Isaac) Ya’qoub (Jacob) Lut (Lot) Youssuf (Joseph) Ayyoub (Job) Chu’ayb Moussa (Moses) Haroun (Aaron) Dhou-Lkifl Dawoud (David) Sulayman (Solomon) Ilyas (Elijah) Alyassa’ (Elisha) Younus (Jonas) Zakariyyae (Zacharia) Yahya (John) ‘Issa (Jesus) Muhammad ﷺ Each messenger had a specific mission from God. For example: Abraham, Noah, Jonah, Jesus and Muhammad are all messengers but are not necessarily in the same geographical location. Each Prophet, with the realities of the people of his time. I know that some will tell me that Jesus is a God. I refer you to the Bible. John 5 30: I can do nothing of myself: as I hear, I judge; and my judgment is right, because I seek not my own will, but the will of him who sent me. John 15, 26 And Jesus said, "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who is from the Father, he will testify of me;" In the Quran Surah 19 we 16 Mentions, in the Book (the Quran), Maryam (Mary), when she withdrew from her family to a place towards the East. 17 She put a veil between herself and them. We sent her Our Spirit (Jibril [Gabriel]), who presented himself to her in the form of a perfect man. 18 She said: “I take refuge from you with the Most Merciful. If you are pious, [do not approach me]. » 19 He said: “I am indeed a Messenger of your Lord to give you the gift of a pure son. » 20 She said: “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, and I am not a prostitute? » 21 He said, “So shall it be!” This is easy for Me, says your Lord! And We will make him a sign to the people, and a mercy from Us. It's a matter already decided. » 22 So she became pregnant [with the child], and she withdrew with him to a distant place. 23 Then the pains of childbirth brought her to the trunk of the palm tree, and she said: “Woe is me! That I had died before this moment! And that I was totally forgotten! » 24 Then he called to her from beneath her, saying, “Do not be distressed. Your Lord has placed a spring at your feet. 25 Shake the trunk of the palm tree towards you: it will make fresh and ripe dates fall on you. 26 So eat and drink and let your eyes rejoice! If you see anyone from among humans, say [to him:]: “Assuredly, I have vowed a fast to the Most Merciful: therefore I will not speak today to any human being. » 27 Then she came to her people carrying him [the baby]. They said: “O Maryam (Mary), you have done a monstrous thing! 28 “Sister of Hârûn, your father was not an evil man and your mother was not a prostitute. » 29 She then gestured towards him [the baby]. They said, “How should we speak to a baby in the cradle? » 30 But (the baby) said: “I am truly the servant of Allah. He gave me the Book and appointed me Prophet. 31 Wherever I am, He has made me blessed; and He recommended to me, as long as I live, prayer and Zakat; 32 and kindness to my mother. He didn't make me violent or unhappy. 33 And peace be upon me on the day I was born, and on the day I die, and on the day I am raised alive. » 34 Such is 'Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary): word of truth, of which they doubt.
@@M.ArsalanKhan-gs6zp there’s tons of evidence… Josephus the historian as well as many other living not too long after Jesus comment on His life. In fact there’s at least as much writing about Him as Cesar. In fact there are writings from Roman officials to one another about His life.
@@M.ArsalanKhan-gs6zp As someone who was once a very strong atheist who would often debate my christian colleagues in academic institutions, the argument that Jesus did not exist is something no atheist worth their salt has ever attempted to defend. Jesus of Nazareth is a historical figure with numerous corroborating accounts that solidify him in non-religious, impartial academic historical literature as a prominent speaker and religious leader of Jewish descent. Even Jesus's crucifixion is well-documented abiblically. Just read through the Wikipedia page on "Sources for the historicity of Jesus" if you want to educate yourself, and you can see the cited literature if you wish to go deeper than that.
@@vivelamusiquereggaejazzblu3509bro give it up. Did you watch the vid? Your Muslim AI got destroyed by facts, logic, and God’s scripture. Go get baptized bro Jesus is king forever and ever.
@@M.ArsalanKhan-gs6zpeyewitness testimony. Also your lack of knowledge doesn’t equate to a lack or evidence, you just gotta go and do your research honestly.
@@bankroll_gotti99 i've studied both Christianity and muslim religion , every bit from it and I can confirm and even proove islam is a Satanic religion.
Muslim AI is debating like Muslims debaters, repeating itself over and over without making any point. Note: jesus christ is lord and God 💯%. Without him the second death "HELL" you will not escape it.
it did get a bit repetitive towards the end. Again, I did this without human intervention, perhaps in the future, a moderator could keep the conversation from looping back to certain scriptures. Maybe repeating a scripture is penalized, i don't know... thanks for the note.
To you it doesn’t make sense because the concept inferential reasoning is not natural or possible for people that are indoctrinated into taking everything word for word.
I felt sorry for the Muslim AI, it couldn't resort to violence to defeat the opponent and struggled with the Christian AI quotes. For example, it kept saying "when you look at the text this way or that way..." [Paraphrased] instead of giving anything concrete.
God becomes man,sinless. To be a fair judge,live as a man, die as a man.feel our joys and pains. Better equipped to judge fairly, having lived as a man. Would I listen to someone who learned about depression from a book? Or listen to someone who lived through depression and came out the other side. Experience of the situation makes one better equipped to judge or help.
@@juliorosado3709 exactly, also Q says Jesus as an infant gave life to a clay-bird by 'breathing' into it, just like how God created Adam. They also affirm (khalimatallah) Jesus will be the judge of all the earth
@@juliorosado3709 and God is the Word, I forgot the verse but it went something like, In the beginning was the Word, and the word was with God, and the word WAS GOD.
The Holy Quran is the final book. And the book you call the Bible is not the actual Bible that was given to mankind. And if you watch the DAWAH TH-cam videos you will see proof and citing's of this. Don't believe me, go check the proof yourself.
If Jesus is God so how possible God died on cross ? As a muslim I know Jesus is immortal (massiha), prophet and servent of Allah as a messenger same like David, Solomon, moses, Isaac, Muhammad, Abraham etc etc
This is good, but they seemed to repeat some argument structures too much. They lack ability to make deeper prophetic connections between old and new testaments.
Good point. That goes along with islamic teachings (Quran) claiming to be abrahamic (use of the Old Testament prophets and Jesus) but finding sacrificial blood rituals for atonement not from God, something widely spreads in the Scriptures it affirms. Islam and this muslim AI have problems - inconsiderate and flaws. An AI is just an ai anyway and Islam is just it.
Also it lacks some specific nuance. Like theologically the moment you admit Jesus was with God in the begining, it already establishes Him as God, not as servant.
The problem with Surah Al-Baqarah 2:79 is that we have manuscripts older than the Quran that line up with todays Bible. Also affirming the argument of the Christian AI.
As a Christian myself, I found this really dumb. AI just kept arguing the same points back and forth, and yet different point values were given out each time. Not only that, but the debate is pointless in and of itself. Two MAJORLY opposing religions, which are the complete opposites of each other, could never have an honest debate to begin with.
Yeah these AI aren't smart enough. They basically cite scripture back and forth to counter eachothers argument, which even considering how much sense they make. Its not clear how an impartial judge gives out points when both sites quite scripture that supports their claims
The points the judge gives out are on a literary rubric, the kind you would use for two people debating equally valid opinions based on equally valid facts. It deducted points any time an AI did not make a strong enough verse citation which is a terrible metric for judging the strength of an argument. The actual debates by real people inevitably veer into debating the truth of those underlying, incompatible facts. It's the only way you can possibly reach a conclusion when one book explicitly says "he is not" and the other says "he is." My preferred tactic is to look at those passages that say "he is not" and ask "if this was the all-knowing God speaking to Jesus, why doesn't he know what he's talking about with the third part of the Trinity?" It's a fun early checkmate as you get to watch a Muslim either explain how Allah is wrong, how the book is wrong, how Muhammad was wrong, how Christians are wrong about what Christians believe, sputter something about Saints, try to completely change the topic, or leave.
*What your imams don't tell you* Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*
@@Hannestv4607ah yes the koran writer was ignorant. the only one ignorant is you commenting about a religion without understanding or researching at all about it.
👚THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD "the last age in which God is saving man from the imminent destruction of this old world" (These things must be spoken directly and clarified for the sake of human understanding, or man will not be freed from Satan's influence. The ways that Satan corrupts people only on a superficial level; Even worse are the deceptions that hide under this outward form that Satan uses to achieve his goal. What is this scam? Forced occupation--this gives a very strong effect. (And makes a tempting offer, and this is lying.) Is lying not the same as fraud? The purpose of lying is actually to deceive you! Are there any other scams? (It tempts, harms, blinds and deceives) (it controls man, holds man, frightens man greatly and prevents man from believing in God.) What does this mean by "coercion"? This means using threats and coercive tactics to force you to comply with it making you think about what might happen if you don't comply. What does "fraud and trickery" entail? Satan makes up several stories and lies, tricking you into believing them. It will do everything to achieve its goals. Sometimes it does you a little favor, while it entices you to sin. If you don't obey it, it will torment you and punish you, and it will use various methods to attack you and trap you. The sixth is destruction of body and mind. Which part of man does Satan destroy? (Man's mind and whole being) Satan destroys your mind, deprives you of the ability to resist, which means your heart slowly turns to Satan when you least expect it. This is where Satan dwells, seizing and devouring them. 🙏) Almighty God said WHAT THINGS must be spoken DIRECTLY and clarified for the SAKE of MAN'S UNDERSTANDING, or MAN will NEVER be freed from SATAN'S influence. The WAYS SATAN CORRUPTS PEOPLE are just the SUPERFINE layer; Even WORSE are the deceptions hiding UNDER this OUTER form that SATAN USES to ACHIEVE his PURPOSE. ☀️ WHAT IS THIS SCAM? Mix them together: (It deceives, seduces and intimidates) (It also uses sweet language. When--it influences and forcibly conquers the People.) Forced conquest----this gives a very strong effect . (And makes a tempting offer, and it lies.) Lying is one of the things it does. SATAN LIES to DECEPT you. WHAT is NATURAL LYING? Is LYING NOT the SAME as FRAUD? 😥 The purpose of lying is actually to deceive you! Are there any other scams? (It tempts, harms, blinds and deceives) (it controls the person, holds the person, scares the person very much and prevents the person from believing in God.)🌹🙏🌷 There are SIX MAIN DECEPTIONS that SATAN USES to CORRUPT PEOPLE. The FIRST is control and coercion. That is, Satan will do everything he can to control your heart. ☀️ WHAT DOES "force" MEAN? This MEANS USING THREATENING and FORCING TACTICS to FORCE you to COMPLY with it you THINK about what could HAPPEN if you DON'T OBEY. You are afraid and do not dare to oppose it, so you submit to it. 🌹🙏🌷 The SECOND is fraud and trickery. WHAT does "fraud and trickery" have to do with it? SATAN MAKES UP SOME STORIES and LIES, TRICKING you into BELIEVING them. The THIRD is forced indoctrination. What is forced to teach the People? Is forced indoctrination done by the will of the People? (No) Even if you don't agree, there's nothing you can do. SATAN DOCTRINES you WITHOUT you KNOWING it, IMPRESSING his THINKING, his LIFE POLICIES and his SPIRIT on you. The FOURTH is threats and enticements. That is, Satan uses various tricks to get you to accept it, follow it, work in its service. It WILL DO EVERYTHING to ACHIEVE its GOALS. Sometimes it gives you SMALL favors, WHILE it LEADS you to SIN. If you DO NOT FOLLOW it, it WILL TORTURE you and PUNISH you, and it WILL USE various METHODS to ATTACK you and TRAP you. 🙏🌹🙏 The fifth is deception and paralysis. "Deception and paralysis" is Satan's construction of certain sounding words and ideas to suit the minds of the People, to make it seem as if it takes into account the physical condition of their lives and tomorrow, when the truth is it isits only purpose is to deceive you. Then it paralyzes you so that you do not know what is right and what is wrong, so you are deceived without knowing it and come under its control. The sixth is the destruction of body and mind. Which part of man does Satan destroy? (Man's mind and whole being) SATAN DESTROYES your MIND, REMOVES you of the ABILITY to RESIST, which MEANS your HEART will slowly TURN against SATAN when you least expect it. 😢 It instills these things in you every day, every day using these ideas and cultures to influence and deceive you, slowly destroying you, so that you no longer want to stand up for what you call righteousness. You don't realize it, you don't have it anymore KEEPING SWIMMING AGAINST the CURRENT, INSTEAD of just WAITING for it. "Destruction" MEANS that SATAN TORTURES people so MUCH that they BECOME SHADOWS of THEMSELVES, NO LONGER PEOPLE. This is where SATAN LIVES, CHOKING and SWALLOWING THEM. 🙏 Each of these tricks that Satan uses to CORRUPT MAN can take away man's power to fight; any of these are DEADLY to PEOPLE. Simply put, whatever Satan does and whatever trickery he uses can weaken you under SATAN'S CONTROL and SUBMERGE you in a MASSAGE of EVIL and SIN. These are the DECEPTIONS that SATAN USES to CORRUPT PEOPLE. What are the consequences of Satan's corruption of the People? What corrupt dispositions do they express and reveal? (PRUDENCE and PRIDE, SELFISHNESS and DISGUSTINGNESS, BADNESS and DECEPTION, CRUELTY and MALICUS, and COMPLETE INHUMANITY.) 😪 In sum, we can say that they have no personality. In summary, the things that stand out the most about corrupt humanity are ARROGANCE, DECEPTION, MALICIOUSNESS, and SELF-CONFIDENCE. 😪 However, you all missed one thing. PEOPLE have NO CONSCIENCE, LOST their RIGHTEOUSNESS and have NO HUMANITY----YET there is ONE who does VERY IMPORTANT THING you DIDN'T MENTION, that is, "betrayal" 😢😢 The FINAL CONSEQUENCE of these DISPOSITIONS that EXIST in ANY person the MOMENT they are CORRUPTED by SATAN is their BETRAYAL to GOD. 🙏 From "The Word Appears in the Flesh" Fulfillment of (John 1:1) and (Ezekiel 2:9-10), (Rev. 19:9,13) 📥Calling and leading everyone to His lowered Kingdom or Church because it is still standing on earth in the holy place in the air/ youtube "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD 💐 this is the fulfillment of what He said to Peter 2,000 years ago, recorded in (Matthew 16:18'19). This is the the only Church of each one of our spirit that we must listen to or eat and drink like how we eat, dress and sleep every day so that He can guide us and change us by rejecting the evil attached by satan so as to be perfect, having attained eternal life that will enter the coming replacement of the New Heaven and New Earth. 📩 Note📩 Almighty God said, Life in the Kingdom is the life of people and God Himself. Humanity depends on My care and precaution, and all are engaged in fighting the great red dragon to the death. In order to win this last battle, and to end the great red dragon, all people must offer Me their entire being, for My Kingdom. When I say "KINGDOM", I mean it is the life lived under the protection of divinity, where all humanity I constantly guide, I teach directly, so that the life of all humanity, although in world is as if it were in heaven, the true spirit of life in the third heaven . 🙏
The Quran was written about 600 years after Jesus, in the early 7th century. So, for accurate information about Jesus, would you trust those who lived with him and met him (the Gospel), or someone who came 600 years later?
And the ones who lived with him contradicted each other. The Bible is full of fallacies and contradictions as per the video shown as well. It’s about time you go back to the real Bible or come to Quran that affirms the previous revelations.
Revelation 22:18 - For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book: If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.
Before engaging in a debate, it's essential for the Christian preacher to clarify their understanding of God within the context of Christianity. Specifically, they should address whether they believe God is Jesus, a spirit, or a father. Once this foundational belief is established, they can then delve into the reasons for their choice and explain why the other options are not considered valid within Christian doctrine. Please note that the term "rat house cube problem" is unclear and seems unrelated to the topic.
The Muslim AI keeps quoting John 5:30 but in the context of the rest of the chapter, Jesus is talking about being one with the father, rather than a polytheistic deity. He is saying that if you separate him from the father, and therefore make him a separate deity, he would be nothing, as God is one deity. The problem with this video is they debate verses, not chapters, and don’t provide context from other books within the Bible.
@lessardo87 the issue with your statement is the *and therfore make him a separate deity*. I belive that I am one with God. But I do not think that I am a deity. I belive this meaning to be the same as the saying * we were all of one mind* meaning in agreement or alignment.
Does polytheism even come up anywhere in John 5? Having read John 5, I take it that your interpretation may have something to do with the wording in John 5:18, where John writes that the Jews were seeking to kill Jesus because they interpreted His actions as Him making Himself equal with God? Is this what you have interpreted to mean that the Jews thought Jesus was making Himself a second deity, and that Jesus then spoke the words in John 5:30 as part of a long teaching where He was declaring Himself not to be a second deity, but a second person of the one deity?
That's not what John 5:30, or John 5 is about. You were right that John 5:30 is part of a passage where Jesus is testifying that He is one with the Father. But He isn't testifying to the Jews that He's God. He's testifying to them that He is one with God. The way that He is one with the Father according to John 5 includes: 1. He seeks to do the Father's will and not His own. In this way, both Jesus and the Father are seeking to accomplish one individual's will - the Father's (see John 5:30). 2. He does nothing on His own except He sees the Father doing it. What He does is not what He comes up with Himself, but what the Father shows Him to do. In this way, Jesus' actions are the Father's (see John 5:19-21; compare v26). 3. His power and authority is from the Father (not from Himself). In this way, both Jesus and the Father are operating with the same authority and power of one individual - the Father (see John 5:27; compare v30; see also John 5:21 compare vv26-27).
The concept of allowing Himself to be limited by human form is actually quite interesting, because God without limitations is merely omnipotent as a characteristic. However being omnipotent WITH limitations and surpassing them, is omnipotent in action. It’s actually proving it and showing it, if there’s nothing to overcome you can’t really qualify yourself as an omnipotent. It’s like saying you’re courageous and brave, but you’ve never faced anything that made you afraid.
"Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;" Philippians 2:6 "No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from My Father.” John 10:18
@@FastestSpeakerscorner That's one of my favorite Bible verses, give me chills Everytime. It's like Christ had everything to boast about with Him being God Himself but instead He humbled Himself to the lowest of lows.
Islam might be seen as clearer because it has a straightforward belief in one God (Allah) and well-defined practices like the Five Pillars. Its central text, the Qur'an, provides clear guidance for followers.
Islamic prayers are shallow and mechanical. You just recite and recite like a zombified parrot. I always felt bored when I used to pray in the mosque 🕌 this when I was not distracted by a yawning bearded guy next to me or the stinky feet smell of the carpets. Wake up and start using the remaining brain cells you have before being fully lobotomized. Saludos
@@Perfected-Paragon We as followers of Christ are not Slaves to Religion. We are Sons in a Relationship with YHWH. The Gospel Message is not about what you do for God but it is about what God has done for the entire world by Sending the Eternal Son of God so that we can Reconciliation with God and have the Assurance of Everlasting Life with him. Jesus is the Only way to the Father. There is many false and failing Messiahs taught who does not fulfill the Messianic Prophecies. If your Messiah does not pass the Foundation of the Gospel Message of Jesus in the Old Testament then you have the wrong Messiah. The New Testament shows the Fulfillment of the Gospel Message of Jesus Christ. Anyone who distorts the Gospel Message of Jesus teaches the Oppisite. Muhammad taught the Oppisite amd distorts the Gospel Message of Jesus!
@@keemo9204 The Old Testament is the "Foundation" of the Gospel Message of Messiah. And the New Testament is the "Fulfillment" of the Gospel Message of Yeshua Hamashiach. Your different 'Isa does not Match the Foundation of who the Messiah is to be. Muhammad taught a Failing and False Messiah. Amd Distorted the Gospel Message of the Yeshua Hamashiach, Jesus!
I’ve heard Muslims give far better arguments against the divinity of Jesus than this AI, and I’ve also heard Christians give far better arguments to prove Jesus’ divinity than this AI. My point? Machines will never be better than the human mind. What we should be doing is trying to harness the full potential of the human mind, rather than taking the easy way out by turning to machines
At least Christian's base who our Messiah is from the Old Testament. And we Test the Old Testament Scriptures to the New Testament Scriptures. If the Messiah does not fulfill these ancient Messianic Prophecies then he is a False and Failing Messiah. And during Jesus First coming he Fulfilled 360 Messianic Prophecies. A Mere Man can not fulfill 8 of these Messianic Prophecy. It is very hard to be the Messiah and there is only One yet many false Messiah's are being taught. What is rather sad, is Muhammad never read the Holy Scriptures but people believe His interpretation of the Holy Scriptures! And he denied the Divinity and the Eternal Sonship of the Messiah without even reading and studying the Holy Scriptures. He had little knowledge of the Holy Scriptures. He didn't even know when his different angel Gabriel told him false Revelation amd contradicted the True Angel Gabriel 600 years later. If he known the Scriptures he would of Rebuked the Angel. In Galatians 1:6-10 it says: Galatians 1:6-10 ESV [6] I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- [7] not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. [8] _But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed._ [9] _As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed._ [10] For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ. To distort the Gospel you have to teach completely the oppisite. And let the man Muhammad amd his different angel Jibreel be accursed!
Yes, it's beneficial for you, but the AI has considered these arguments numerous times. It can process and calculate various points without needing to explicitly state them. This is the power of machines while you might think of one counter-argument, the AI has thousands and can reach much deeper conclusions than a human. If you truly want to discuss AI, you need to understand how it operates. The AI knows it's communicating with another AI. otherwise, it wouldn't speak so recklessly. Next time you should know the depths of an AI and you should try why the ai came to that conclusion than you have your answer.
@@school-replacement if someone believes in a book, then you would use that book to show that their belief is flawed, even if that book is corrupted because it is stupid to use a book A to show that book B is corrupt when you can just use the corrupted parts of book B to show that book B is corrupted and flawed. This stupid argeument of "oh you think the bible is corrupt then why use it to prove your point?" You live your whole life abiding by this book, why would you believe the quran if i used quranic verses if you dont believe in it? It seems christians cant think their arguements through,.
@@rxyy4ne560 No, when book B claims to be a continuation, a sequel, to book A you present the many inconsistencies between the books. For that you will need book A. Both Mohammed and Jesus do that. Jesus claims to be the fulfillment of the Old Testament And I can easily show you how He fulfills the Old Testament. Here are prophecies detailing the Messiah...... 'the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel' (God with us) (Isaiah 7:14) 'For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace' (Isaiah 9:6) And also..... 'He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his wounds we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned-every one-to his own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all' (Isaiah 53) A.ka Jesus Christ, The Son of God
The problem is that these statements only appear in the Gospel of John, which scholars now recognize as being historically unreliable. The New Testament has 4 Gospels (Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John), and we can only find these “I Am” declarations in the last of the four (John) - which was written latest, contains provable fabrications (e.g. John 7:53-8:11), and contradicts the previous Synoptic gospels which never ONCE quote Jesus as making these “I Am” statements, which would be unthinkable for them to ignore or forget if they actually happened. The truth is: stories about Jesus grew and developed over time, and his image & status was embellished as the years and decades went on. Mix that in with the highly probably Roman pagan influence from their idolatrous next-door neighbors (whose theology was swamped in ‘sons of God’ and human incarnations), that it’s clear to see what modern Christianity teaches today was not what Jesus himself claimed. Islam takes us back to the original historical truth, which is that God is one (Mark 12:29), He alone is the source of goodness (which Jesus denied in Mark 10:18), and He alone-even in John’s Gospel-is “The ONLY TRUE GOD” (John 17:3). I encourage you to read the Qur’an, God’s final revelation to humanity. It clarifies all things, and guides believers to the most upright truth and will of the Creator :) Peace.
@jobayermasud5403 Hmm, THE NAME - "YAHWEY🙏 (Holy Above ALL) - I AM : is the same name reviled to Moses. Nefarious mouse-slimes claim to worship the same God, whilst not knowing "not Only" the Name of God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob but also God's True Nature.
@@saviovaz2903 The fact that you insult Muslims (which simply means ‘one who surrenders their life to God’) shows just which God you truly serve. Also, we believe in the same God of Abraham - and “YHWH” simply means ‘The Eternal & Absolute One’ which is also God’s name & title in the Qur’an (‘As-Samad’; see Sūrah 112). Oh and by the way, nobody actually knows for sure how YHWH (the Tetragrammaton) was pronounced, because it was lost over time since only the high priest ever recited it. So by your own logic, you don’t know the name of God either. And if that wasn’t bad enough, let’s not forget that the Gospels and New Testament never use the name “Yahwey” for God even ONCE. So, why are you using hypocritical double-standards? I hope you repent. As Christians do you only resent us because we believe in God, and what was revealed to us, and what was revealed before, and because most of you are rebellious sinners?
As hilarious as this AI "civility" is, it certainly portrays our own reality, perfectly. Just in the first 6 minutes alone, a Muslim making an argument, receiving an answer, then asking the same question again with a few different words just to get the same answer a different but identical way, lmao. This is the reality of debating a Muslim. Bravo 👏
yea i woulda deducted points everytime a narrative is recycled. its true becuase bible/koran says so! it says its true! but what about that politition that says they talk only truth so thats true for that corrupt politition too?....
Its genuinely just getting the exact same response from the christian AI every time. The christian AI never addresses the point that the muslim ai makes (in part 1 at least) which is that god has no reason to become a human.
The AI imo could have answered much better than it did by elaborating on psalm 22. Psalm 22 is not about the abandonment rather the call and certainty that god will come and aid him. IMO that makes the argument stronger by explaining that “my god my god, why have you forsaken me” means rather when are you coming and that the time has come to fufill the prophesy. Because after he says it the storm on the cross ends and atonement for humanity has been completed. Psalms 22 even ends on “he has done it”. I recommend everyone read or listen to psalm 22, it is a beautiful chapter.
Not a Muslim nor a Christian just trying to speak objectively here, everything that I'm going to say is with utmost respect to my fellow Muslims and fellow Christians. This debate falls short because the Muslim AI keeps quoting the bible to disprove Jesus' divinity, which is like trying to extinguish a fire using gasoline. That makes it seem like the Muslim AI thinks that both The Holy Bible and The Holy Quran are both at the same time the word of God (which cannot be because both contradict each other on the very point that this debate is based around) while trying to interpret the bible verses to suit his narrative. Found it interesting that there is no direct talk of the crucifixion, resurrection and ascension of Jesus (from both perspectives) which is a very important point to bring in a debate like this. Finally, taking a look at the uploader's channel, you can see that he's clearly Christian and did upload videos preaching Christianity in the past, so how can we ensure objectivity and fairness here and can he make sure that his personal beliefs didn't interfere with training the AIs (even at a subconscious level)?
good points, this weekend i'm hoping to do another video featuring an atheist and theist using 14 different models as judges, asking them to create their own criteria for judging the arguments....we'll see how it goes.
well you clearly don't know a whole lot about Christians. By very nature and virtue to be like Christ is to be honest , unbiased , and loving . a true Christian follows the teachings.. what i say , being a former atheist and Muslim...read the Bible and it will be abundantly clear to you. Dont take my word for it , check yourself smarty pants i bet you are pretty intelligent and will realize how much in our life is lied to us.
@@sheepwolf921 but all people can t be honest some would do anyting to seem right so your point is cercular because i said the wold is not in the woods he is not in the woods kinda logic and u bieng a former muslim allah yahdic akhi
You are 100 procent right Tru story, Jezus is god And not a profeet Moslims think Jezus is a Moslims Did Jezus take the sahada I dont tink so I no fore sure God blesss you 1❤
The problem is, Muslims don't actually read their own Qu'ran, because they say: "Bible and Torah were corrupted/changed by men." Which is in disagreement with their god "Allah", who says: 1) "Torah and Bible are the word of God" (Qur'an Surah 2:41, 3:3, 5:43-48). 2) "Words of God cannot be corrupted" (Qur'an Surah 6:115, 18:27). 3) Jesus says "I am the Way, The Truth, and The Life, no man can come to the Father except through me" (Bible, John 14:6). 4) If you believe the Qu'ran, you must then believe the Bible - which then cancels the Qu'ran. A true Muslim is an ex-Muslim.
@@Yeshua_Ha_Mashiacthe fact that you clearly didnt do further research or even look at the tafseer for these basic answers shows your competence. Go on and search up the clear tafseer and answers to your “contridictions”.
"Does the AI system judge arguments based on its comprehensive pre-existing knowledge, thereby understanding the context of both sides, or does it evaluate the arguments purely based on the information presented in the discussions, without any additional background knowledge?"
Any rebuttal might been seen as stronger by an A.I. One works by hand and one can work without hands and why? Daniel 9:27 "He shall be firm in a covenant with many for one week, yet in the midst of a week shall he stop to make sacrifice in the wing. Abomination! The one who spreads desolation spreads desolation even until complete consummation, for the decree that shall be, is a flowing forth." Revelation 12:12b-14 “The false one has come to fall, possessing great wrath, seeing his hold is a short time, for the dragon perceiving a casting out of the Earth shall pursue a woman who gives birth to a male with two wings, it is a great Eagle loving the woman, an order of things, to fly in a wilderness, her place where there is nourishment, time, time, the cutting off time, in the presence of the serpent.” 1) BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA - (the firm week) of 8 years First time as 2009-2012 - Second time 2013-2016 2) DONALD TRUMP - The Cut-Off time 2017-2020 3) JOE BIDEN - an image of a beast time, in the midst of a week, of an image of his time, desolation in Jerusalem to spread to all the world - for then cometh Annihilation, the perishing of the end. SO WHAT IS THE STORY THAT PEOPLE OUGHT TO KNOW??? Amos 1:6-7 “For thus saith Yahweh, “for three transgressions of Gaza, four, I will not revoke being against: they capture people at peace with them (1) and bring them to be shut up (2), bloody (3). And send fire over the wall of Gaza (4), and consume all of the citadels.” Habakkuk 1:9-11 "All come, Hamas, assemble the horde of the east, gather the captives like sand. Mock the ruler, and their judgment a joke, laugh as all strongholds become rubble, seize them, then pass through like the wind, pass through guilty by the strength of your god.” Obadiah 1:10-11 “from out of Hamas, your brother, a deceiver, cover your shame, and you will be cut off forever. In that day you stood afar, on the day the strangers were carried away in strength. And the stranger entered to cast lots for Jerusalem, then you were one of them.” John 5:43 “I am come in My Father's name, and ye receive Me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.” Luke 10:18 “and He (Jesus) said, “I saw Satan as Barack Obama.” Micah 6:16 "It is owed unto America, and all who work the deed and the house Ahaz ("he has grasp the ten") and watch and keep you with their strange counsel. Walk in it for the purpose; I will give you up to desolation. And your inhabitants shall be a derision, for you will bear and be a reproach my people." Daniel 8:25 "and through his cunning treachery shall advance, the hand shall magnify the heart, ruining many, the quiet oppose the prince of princes, for he is broken without hand." Muslims must use their hands like October 7th, 2023, only they in Gaza Strip need West Bank to be in league with them. Hosea 10:10 “It is in my desire that I should chastise them; and the people shall be gathered against them, when they shall bind themselves in their two furrows (West Bank and Gaza Strip).” Obadiah 1:12-13 “Do not gloat over your brother’s day of taking strangers captive, nor rejoice in the day the sons of Judah are destroyed, do not boast in the day of distress. You should never enter at the gate of My people, in the day of their distress. Moreover do not gloat over their calamity in the day of their disaster, sending wealth in the day of disaster.” This is Revelation 11:7-15. Hosea 7:16 “Return ALLAH, deceive to ensnare their princes (the ten idiots from the remains of the Ottoman Empire who already had to deal with Arab Spring and the removal of kings in one month in Egypt, Libya, and Tunisia), they shall fall by the sword of an insolent tongue, they mocking in the land of Egypt” Luke 17:24 “Only as Barack Obama exits heavens in one part and then thus exalts (Allah) Obama, then doeth the Son of man have His day.” Isaiah 14:14 "Allah Obama ab dama elyown." Habakkuk 3:11-13 "From the east the crescent stood at the heights, walking in the light of the weapons, the radiance of Barack (Husein Obama) from the thrust. There is indignation at his march on the Earth; in anger he trampled the nations. He went forth for the salvation of his people; for the salvation he's anointed. Now strike the head of the house of the wicked; lay him open from thigh to neck, commune with the Lifted High." Isaiah 14:27-31 "Yahweh is the head of a force of armies, who can plan to frustrate? If His hand is stretched out who can turn it back? For the year is the year of the brought down king, Ahaz ("ahaz" means "he has grasp the ten"). He is dead is the oracle to come. Rejoice not Palestine though now thee be whole, for the rod who struck has been broken. The serpent is at the root with a venom. It shall go forth as a fruit, a flying forth from the serpent. Those most hopeless shall lie down in bonds, and shall die at the root in need, for their remnant will be slain. Wail at the judgment, cry out city as you melt, O Palestine now whole. For smoke from the North, and none shall break rank." Why does Palestine whole means it melts? Xi and Putin never dreamed of prostration five times a day for seven years. Yet if the power of Christ Jesus confirms in Revelation 11:7-15, then they accept the confirmation and fight. Isaiah 14:16 "They that see thee shall squint, saying, "this the man who shakes the whole world? He shook merely the region of the first." Daniel 8:25 "and through his cunning treachery shall advance, the hand shall magnify the heart, ruining many, the quiet oppose the prince of princes, for he is broken without hand." Xi and Putin don't need to use their hands. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 "Let not one in any way deceive, it come not unless apostasy of the first of mankind, lawlessness revealed in a Son of destruction. The opposition to appointment exalted above every so called god or object of worship, therefore sit in the temple of a god, and display thyself as that god." 2 Thessalonians 2:8-9 “At that time a lawlessness will be Revelation. The demonstration, of which our Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth, abolishing at the appearing of His coming. One whose presence is in accordance with the power of Satan, all power of signs of falsehood marvelous.” Isaiah 14:18-19 "All the kings of the Earth shall lie down in a manner most glorious, each in a tomb, yet you shall be cast out of a tomb. An abhorrent branch, clothed with the slain yet pierced by a sword. Kneel to the ROCK and descend in a pit to be trampled as a corpse." NOW NOTE, IN THE REBUTTAL, PER THE QURAN, the Muslims who believe in Barack Hussein Obama are seriously fearful for their flesh melting in intense heat. Quran 13:11b-14a says, “Never doeth Allah change the condition of a people, excepting they change themselves, and Allah intendeth evil for all people, and there is no stopping him. Neither doeth he accept an equal. Barack is he who showeth you the face of Allah, giving a fear and a hope, though heavy the clouds and the thunder, exalt and prostrate to him, for even angels fear him, for he sendeth forth thunderbolts, striking whom he wills, while they dispute before the face of Allah, and he is severe in his attack. To him alone are the prayers in truth." Quran 7:45-47 says, “Who shall avert people from the path of Allah? And who will be declared the maker of deception? They were focused on the Hereafter, disbelievers. Between them shall be a barrier a family of men of Obama, who shall recognize them all by their markings. And one (Barack Obama) shall call out to the companions of Paradise, “PEACE ON YOU.” They shall not have entered, but shall have the assurance. And his eyes shall turn towards the people to be torched for they cry out, “Lord let us not be cast into fire among the wicked” but the man Obama shall say, “I know you by your looks, but none of your riches or pride of life shall avail you now, for these men have sworn that you may never earn the mercy of Allah.” Then he shall turn to his own BARACK (the blessing) shall say, “Come with me to paradise, for you will have nothing to fear, neither regret.””
@@kiilah4357, an A.I. figures a strength and gives points, then if there is a rebuttal and it seems to cover any major points it gives more points to the rebuttal. Unless a rebuttal was worthless it would always call the rebuttal better. Truth is never found by two people debating or by an evaluator no matter how how smart any speaker is. One has to evaluate the Holy Bible and the Quran on their own merit and that is how an answer between the two would be figured. The same would be true for something like Hinduism and Buddhism. What are the original texts and how much sense do they make, what points do they have, and is the logic of the book sound. Example: if Hinduism has ideas or images that are related to Christianity or Islam that does not strengthen any of the three. Rather does the Quran have a chance of being more accurate on Jesus for example is one thing worth evaluating? Are more witnesses with various testimony a strength or a weakness? If you and I both see a dolphin for the very first time in murky water are we likely to agree with each other? Is one of us more or less accurate? Does the fact that both of us witness make it more likely or less? If we agree on things yet disagree on things what does that even mean? Are your eyes better than mine? Do you have a better vocabulary than I? Who had a better vantage point of the circumstances? Who has familiarity with water animals and who doesn't? Furthermore, why had neither of us ever seen a dolphin before? How well can you study the witnesses? If I told you Muhammed had a specific way of wiping his ass and here was the chain of narration, and then you agree to it, if I then have some new regulations that control your life a lot more than how to wipe your ass and give same chain narration you agreed to why is the new information so quickly forthcoming centuries later on this man?
AMAZING, thanks for the encouraging note. this is a weekend/evenings hobby for me.... i'm trying to get the next one out as soon as i can. Hopefully by end of week, consider subscribing so you don't miss it!
@JonOleksiuk i need a video of how you set this ai up. I would like to add that ai's need to set context and can only use verses once but can use a verse twice if the other ai uses their one use the other could reference it and some other rules
This video is totally menipulated. And is not based on logic but based on religious scriptures. And as we all know that bible is not the same as it was revealed in the first place. Now you can buy many bibles than one. Even still new versions with new verses are being made. So which one is real? Man, shake up your head wake up quick. How can you explain GOD from a book which is written by humans and is not in its reall form anymore. And on the other hand. Quran is the same as it was reaveled by GOD. Travel around the globe and where ever you go. You ll find the same quran everywhere. Not even a single word would be different. So stop comparing a book with full of errors written by humans in it to a book that has not even a single mistake. Even it has scientific signs and predictions that not even modern science knew hundred years back. Man, from bigbang, to life came into existence by water, your pain recepters, higher dimentions, and many many many more descorveries that science has just made was already mentioned in quran 1400 years back when the word science wasn't existed. Did your Einstein wrote all that in quran? Man, you believe or not. Only ONE can know it the ONE that created all and knew all. And that is only GOD. Because it is obvious no human can create a universe when they cannot even explore it fully. So better, you remove errors from your book first and stop making new seasonal editions. But if you still wanna make new editions. Then stop calling it GODs word. It is not the eyes that are blind its hearts.
u mean translations not versions and still we got manuscript to see falsehood , and ur claim that every quran is the same all over the world is a big big big lie brother u didnt research i guess but there are many diffrent qurans with diffrent teaches thats why for exemple marco banned the hafs version bc it teaches diffrent they say so u cant even recite it in mosque bc it teaches false hood they say pls do ur research lol
Muhammad said: "Allah hates those who don't accept Islam." (Qur'an 30:45, 3:32, 22:38) Jesus said: God loves the whole world and desires salvation for all. (John 3:16) Muhammad said: "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah. (Ibn ishag 992) Jesus said: "Love your neighbour as yourself" (Matthew 5:14) muhmmad said: " I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33) Jesus said: "I have come to seek and save those who are lost." (Luke 19:10) Muhammad stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206) Jesus saved a woman from being stoned for adultery. (John 8:7) Muhammad permitted Muslims to steal from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, in ishaq 764) Jesus said: "You shall not steal." (Matthew 19:18) Muhammad permitted Muslims to lie. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857) Jesus said: "You shall not (lie) bear false witness." (Matthew 19:18) Muhammad owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901) Jesus never owned or traded any slaves. Muhammad and his followers beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390) Jesus and his followers beheaded no one. Muhammad ordered the murder of those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) Jesus preached forgiveness. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38) Muhmmad said: Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in paradise by a hundredfold. (Muslim 4645) Jesus said: "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God" (Matthew 5:9) Muhammad married 13 wives and kept many sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50) Jesus never married. Muhmmad ordered the murder of women. (In ishaq 819,995) Jesus never harmed any woman. Answer is clear!!
No word can be accurate presicely if its translated(I learned 3 languages, I should know above everyone else). If the Quran were to be precise as you say, that means the Quran can only be read by 1 language of communication, which deflects all others who speak other languages. If the lord I follow is biased on where someone is born, then that is not my lord.
@@isidro182 You are saying big and showing so small. You said Quran have different versions. And as a prove you are talking about what a COUNTRY does ! Really? Does a country's rule&order changes the Quran's writtings[which remained unchanged even for thousands of years]😅And adding big four times doesn't make a matter false, it needs provement. Before judging anyone else, judge yourself first😒
The AI doesn't understand humility. Submission of the Son to the will of the Father is the greatest example of humility. He made the will of the Father, He gave all the glory to the Father. Perfect humility, for that reason God put His Son at His right hand in His throne, and gave Him all power and authority. The Father gives testimony of His Son. The Son gives testimony of the Father. The Holy Ghost gives testimony of the Father and the Son.
@@deborahsmith5285Trinity works perfectly 1. God 2. God has a spirit which means the spirit is still God 3. God spirits formed flesh , which means still God. It’s the same God that has a spirit that formed flesh . In Judaism God has always had an inseparable spirit. Islam comes to contradicts Gods nature even when 4:171 clearly states that Allah has a spirit and he breathes that spirit upon Mary womb to form a pure boy that will be a sign and mercy to mankind.
The great thing about the gospel is that you have Jesus Christ as your representative. And because Jesus is God himself, there's no power in the universe that can stop him from bringing you to heaven.
If Jesus is truly God, why does he need to learn from God? In **John 8:28**, Jesus says he speaks only what the Father has taught him. Did he lose his memory and forgot that he's God!? If he is omniscient, why would he need teachings? This challenges the idea that he's God.
@@Yassine3333222222God is Spirit. Jesus came in the flesh ‘from God’ . His fleshly earthly life was temporary to teach us all things. When he went back to the Father the promise of the gospel is that those who call on the Name of Jesus, in prayer, will receive the Holy Spirit from the Father. And Jesus said WE will come and make our home with you. So Christ within us is the kingdom come to earth, as it is in heaven. And he tells us to Ask Anything in his Name. In prayer. So when we pray to Our Father, in Jesus’ name, they both are ONE in Spirit. Inseparable.
@@missflipz You said he came to teach us, but the problem, he himself is learning from God. That's the problem. And there's very important question, Jesus never called himself God or ordered us to call him God. Do we have the right to do so!? From where we got that right!? A flesh from God is the same concept as a prophet from God. Same thing.
Jesus is messenger of God/Allah, he never said he is god or to worship him. These are all your false claims while the only One God Allah said in the Quran that some hypocrites changed the verses of Bible that was revealed by Allah/God.
Its very interesting how by the end of the 1st discussion, the muslim ai was essentially the same question again and again, why would God need a sacrifice. The Christian AI says its because of Sin and Death, making the conversion abit cyclical.
the point system is weird here, i dont follow either religion but the muslim AI would respond with logic somertimes then the christian AI quotes scripture and get more points, its irritating for example when the muslim AI said at the start of the debate why does god need to take a human form to forgive sin the AI quotes a bible verse that means you need to sacrifice blood to forgive sin but the answer doesnt have any logical merit to it and doesn't answer the muslim AI question yet got more points than it
@@JonOleksiuk The trinity concept didn't exist in the entire bible. Even Paul didn't believe in the trinity. I'm using Chatgpt, before I ask certain questions there is no input about any religions. The AI always chose Islam. Why? Because the Bible didn't promote your doctrine. Jesus never preach about trinity neither original sin. He himself didn't want to die. He himself have a God (John 20:17). How can God have a God?
Good questions. i actually had the models do a whole debate on that subject. here it is if you want to learn more about both sides of the argument th-cam.com/video/S0ScOgaDdNE/w-d-xo.html
Is it not also very interesting that when the guards came to arrest Him and He asked who they were looking for, He answered “I Am He” and we are told that the guards fell down or stepped back as if in awe and fear, does this not give us a glimpse of Jesus divinity and the fact that He was freely giving Himself as a sacrifice
The christian AI get the teaching about Jesus divinity from Paul's letter, not from Jesus own teaching. Paul teaching even contradict what messages Jesus bring from God.
Why does it seem that the muslim ai keeps repeating the same statements in each topic? Then slightly rewording the same question at the end of each argument?
The statement, "The Father is greater than I," also refers to the fact that the Son's existence is predicated in the Father, and not the other way around. Since God is the cause of the Son, He is also looked up to by the Son.
lol, the Lord of the universe won by a mere 18 points. This from an AI that simply accepts authority of the scriptures of two world religions, seemingly without question.
oh my gosh, in youtube comments it shows that you've been subscribed to my channel for 10 years. Thanks for coming back for this video (the idea is a work in progress) and commenting.
peaople always call him "god of heaven and earth" notice they always leave out hell, in which 99% human population resides :(. yea god is "love" and nothing but "love"......
@@NightmareRex6 What gives the idea that most humans are in a bad place? It is rather disturbing to think most humans would go to a place of suffering for eternity, but the purgatory and grace ideas sound hopeful.
@@ZombieChicken-X Hell is the absence of God, yet somehow, we exist? Existence itself is something God constructed, thus Hell itself should be non-existence.
To all the people laughing that the Muslim AI had to use the Bible instead of the Quran: that is the smartest approach for this topic. The prompt is about proving Jesus isn’t God. The best way to do that is to use the Book about Jesus against that claim. I may be Christian but this scoring was ABSOLUTELY biased. I read the reasoning - at 13:04 and 21:45, scoring was erroneous
@@BRANDT409 Go believe in a book we found it in a cave we don't know who is the writer of it and it's written 400years after Jesus While Quran is directly from God to the holy spirit to the prophet Till now We read it as the prophet Muhammad read it exactly we can't change a single vowel from it
The name YHWH is the answer; In ancient hebrew, Each letter had a meaning. YHWH when read from left to right says "Behold Nail, Behold Hand" God told Abraham that he would be pierced by a Nail through the Hand. Period - This trumps any debate. Jesus is God.
Well, you started off right and strong with YHWH (YaHaWaH). Behold the hand and behold the nail. Now, how you go and say something like Jesus is God. It's a good idea to know the Son's name too. It's Yahawashi not Jesus.
So basically what you're saying is "my book says jesus is god so even though your book doesnt, my book is the real book" (you dont have any proof for this btw) "and so jesus IS real. AMEN!!!!"
idk why the latest comments are filled with hate. as an agnostic guy with ex muslim background, i enjoyed this a lot. nothing like this has hit my youtube homepage before (i hate human debates as i don't find them convincing for either side because of our human egos, which AIs do not posess.) i subbed & can't wait for more vids.
Why is AI Muslim using Bible and not Koran! 😮 Why can't the Koran be use to refute christian faith. Is Koran not sufficient to defend its position about Jesus. Ai Muslim should use its own muslim source.
We cannot know the truth if each one is using their own book. We know the truth if each person is refuting the claim of the other using the other book.
Muslims read the Bible lol the question is ,Is Jesus God ? And not do Muslims believe in Jesus? or the Bible ? lol 😂those are other questions people assume 😅
Not much of a debate there. Nobody ever went around burning or drowning bibles in an attempt to "standardize" it. Christianity as a general rule holds every ancient copy of the Bible in high regards and has no fear of ancient texts nor need to re write modern texts that are at best an accurate translation and at worst translated in such a way as to attempt to clarify meaning. The thing is many Christians will use parallel Bibles that contain multiple translations for every verse in order to garner understanding. Muslims would never accept a parallel Quran with multiple variants because they believe it is the direct divine word of Allah and has been the same since before creation vs the Christian belief that the Bible is the inspired living word of God written by man.
Allah means God in Arabic. In the God cited 25 among the thousands. The 25 prophets cited are: Adam (Adam) Idriss (Enoch) Nouh (Noah) Houd Salih Ibrahim (Abraham) Ismâ’îl (Sam) Is-hâq (Isaac) Ya’qoub (Jacob) Lut (Lot) Youssuf (Joseph) Ayyoub (Job) Chu’ayb Moussa (Moses) Haroun (Aaron) Dhou-Lkifl Dawoud (David) Sulayman (Solomon) Ilyas (Elijah) Alyassa’ (Elisha) Younus (Jonas) Zakariyyae (Zacharia) Yahya (John) ‘Issa (Jesus) Muhammad ﷺ Each messenger had a specific mission from God. For example: Abraham, Noah, Jonah, Jesus and Muhammad are all messengers but are not necessarily in the same geographical location. Each Prophet, with the realities of the people of his time. I know that some will tell me that Jesus is a God. I refer you to the Bible. John 5 30: I can do nothing of myself: as I hear, I judge; and my judgment is right, because I seek not my own will, but the will of him who sent me. John 15, 26 And Jesus said, "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who is from the Father, he will testify of me;" In the Quran Surah 19 we 16 Mentions, in the Book (the Quran), Maryam (Mary), when she withdrew from her family to a place towards the East. 17 She put a veil between herself and them. We sent her Our Spirit (Jibril [Gabriel]), who presented himself to her in the form of a perfect man. 18 She said: “I take refuge from you with the Most Merciful. If you are pious, [do not approach me]. » 19 He said: “I am indeed a Messenger of your Lord to give you the gift of a pure son. » 20 She said: “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, and I am not a prostitute? » 21 He said, “So shall it be!” This is easy for Me, says your Lord! And We will make him a sign to the people, and a mercy from Us. It's a matter already decided. » 22 So she became pregnant [with the child], and she withdrew with him to a distant place. 23 Then the pains of childbirth brought her to the trunk of the palm tree, and she said: “Woe is me! That I had died before this moment! And that I was totally forgotten! » 24 Then he called to her from beneath her, saying, “Do not be distressed. Your Lord has placed a spring at your feet. 25 Shake the trunk of the palm tree towards you: it will make fresh and ripe dates fall on you. 26 So eat and drink and let your eyes rejoice! If you see anyone from among humans, say [to him:]: “Assuredly, I have vowed a fast to the Most Merciful: therefore I will not speak today to any human being. » 27 Then she came to her people carrying him [the baby]. They said: “O Maryam (Mary), you have done a monstrous thing! 28 “Sister of Hârûn, your father was not an evil man and your mother was not a prostitute. » 29 She then gestured towards him [the baby]. They said, “How should we speak to a baby in the cradle? » 30 But (the baby) said: “I am truly the servant of Allah. He gave me the Book and appointed me Prophet. 31 Wherever I am, He has made me blessed; and He recommended to me, as long as I live, prayer and Zakat; 32 and kindness to my mother. He didn't make me violent or unhappy. 33 And peace be upon me on the day I was born, and on the day I die, and on the day I am raised alive. » 34 Such is 'Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary): word of truth, of which they doubt.
This was interesting but at the mention of John 10:30, I thought of the verses after it and the one that could have been used John 10:33 ESV "The Jews answered him, "It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you,being a man, make yourself God."
I thought the AI would continue with the approach you suggested as well, but after doing a little research I see that Muslims argue that the Jews in mentioned in that verse were mistaken at what Jesus was saying... so perhaps since the Christian AI was programmed to speak with a Muslim, it didn't include that part knowing how the Muslim would response... i don't know, just a thought.
Why Christian AI didn't use Luke's evidence. Here are some key examples: 1. The Annunciation (Luke 1:26-38) When the angel Gabriel announces to Mary that she will conceive a son, he declares that the child "will be called the Son of the Most High" (v. 32) and "the Son of God" (v. 35). This points to Jesus' divine nature and sonship with God. 2. The Birth Narratives (Luke 1-2) The miraculous conception of Jesus through the Holy Spirit and the angelic proclamations at his birth underscore his divine identity as the Messiah and Savior. 3. The Baptism of Jesus (Luke 3:21-22) At Jesus' baptism, a voice from heaven declares, "You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased." This affirms Jesus' unique relationship with God the Father. 4. The Transfiguration (Luke 9:28-36) During the Transfiguration, when Jesus' appearance is transformed, a voice from the cloud declares, "This is my Son, my Chosen One; listen to him!" (v. 35), affirming his divine sonship. 5. Jesus' Authority and Claims (Luke 5:20-24, 7:48-50, 19:10) Throughout the Gospel, Jesus demonstrates divine authority in forgiving sins, performing miracles, and claiming to be the Son of God who has come to save humanity. 6. The Resurrection Narratives (Luke 24) After his resurrection, Jesus appears to his disciples and affirms his divine identity, mission, and fulfillment of the Scripture.
Question to chatgpt: Do Christians define pure monotheism differently than the meaning of pure monotheism? Yes, Christians generally have a distinct understanding of monotheism, particularly when compared to other monotheistic traditions like Judaism and Islam. While the core idea of monotheism-belief in one God-is shared across these religions, the Christian concept of "pure monotheism" is shaped by the doctrine of the Trinity, which introduces a unique perspective. Asking ai with the knowledge of the meaning of pure monotheism gives different results.
Jesus didn’t feel abandonment. 1.) In the more direct translation he was asking the Father how much longer he had to be distant from him for this sacrifice and was making a claim that it was over. And in that very moment the Father agreed and ended the punishment, caused a massive earthquake, and ended the lunar eclipse. He did not say forsaken as in forgotten, but rather as in distant from love. 2.) his saying that was fulfilling a prophecy.
Why wouldnt he feel abandoned? if we look at what was being accomplished in that moment, Jesus was bearing the full weight of our Sin and under the full wrath of God, He was cut off from the land of the living as the scripture says. He was also Quoting psalm 22 which was prophetic and gives insight into the actual translation, Psalm 22 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, from the words of my groaning? 2 O my God, I cry by day, but you do not answer, and by night, but I find no rest. 3 Yet you are holy, enthroned on the praises[a] of Israel. 4 In you our fathers trusted; they trusted, and you delivered them. 5 To you they cried and were rescued; in you they trusted and were not put to shame. 6 But I am a worm and not a man, scorned by mankind and despised by the people. 7 All who see me mock me; they make mouths at me; they wag their heads; 8 “He trusts in the Lord; let him deliver him; let him rescue him, for he delights in him!” 9 Yet you are he who took me from the womb; you made me trust you at my mother's breasts. 10 On you was I cast from my birth, and from my mother's womb you have been my God. 11 Be not far from me, for trouble is near, and there is none to help. 12 Many bulls encompass me; strong bulls of Bashan surround me; 13 they open wide their mouths at me, like a ravening and roaring lion. 14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint; my heart is like wax; it is melted within my breast; 15 my strength is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to my jaws; you lay me in the dust of death. 16 For dogs encompass me; a company of evildoers encircles me; they have pierced my hands and feet[b]- 17 I can count all my bones- they stare and gloat over me; 18 they divide my garments among them, and for my clothing they cast lots. 19 But you, O Lord, do not be far off! O you my help, come quickly to my aid! 20 Deliver my soul from the sword, my precious life from the power of the dog! 21 Save me from the mouth of the lion! You have rescued[c] me from the horns of the wild oxen! 22 I will tell of your name to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation I will praise you: 23 You who fear the Lord, praise him! All you offspring of Jacob, glorify him, and stand in awe of him, all you offspring of Israel! 24 For he has not despised or abhorred the affliction of the afflicted, and he has not hidden his face from him, but has heard, when he cried to him. 25 From you comes my praise in the great congregation; my vows I will perform before those who fear him. 26 The afflicted[d] shall eat and be satisfied; those who seek him shall praise the Lord! May your hearts live forever! 27 All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations shall worship before you. 28 For kingship belongs to the Lord, and he rules over the nations. 29 All the prosperous of the earth eat and worship; before him shall bow all who go down to the dust, even the one who could not keep himself alive. 30 Posterity shall serve him; it shall be told of the Lord to the coming generation; 31 they shall come and proclaim his righteousness to a people yet unborn, that he has done it.
Allah means God in Arabic. In the God cited 25 among the thousands. The 25 prophets cited are: Adam (Adam) Idriss (Enoch) Nouh (Noah) Houd Salih Ibrahim (Abraham) Ismâ’îl (Sam) Is-hâq (Isaac) Ya’qoub (Jacob) Lut (Lot) Youssuf (Joseph) Ayyoub (Job) Chu’ayb Moussa (Moses) Haroun (Aaron) Dhou-Lkifl Dawoud (David) Sulayman (Solomon) Ilyas (Elijah) Alyassa’ (Elisha) Younus (Jonas) Zakariyyae (Zacharia) Yahya (John) ‘Issa (Jesus) Muhammad ﷺ Each messenger had a specific mission from God. For example: Abraham, Noah, Jonah, Jesus and Muhammad are all messengers but are not necessarily in the same geographical location. Each Prophet, with the realities of the people of his time. I know that some will tell me that Jesus is a God. I refer you to the Bible. John 5 30: I can do nothing of myself: as I hear, I judge; and my judgment is right, because I seek not my own will, but the will of him who sent me. John 15, 26 And Jesus said, "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who is from the Father, he will testify of me;" In the Quran Surah 19 we 16 Mentions, in the Book (the Quran), Maryam (Mary), when she withdrew from her family to a place towards the East. 17 She put a veil between herself and them. We sent her Our Spirit (Jibril [Gabriel]), who presented himself to her in the form of a perfect man. 18 She said: “I take refuge from you with the Most Merciful. If you are pious, [do not approach me]. » 19 He said: “I am indeed a Messenger of your Lord to give you the gift of a pure son. » 20 She said: “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, and I am not a prostitute? » 21 He said, “So shall it be!” This is easy for Me, says your Lord! And We will make him a sign to the people, and a mercy from Us. It's a matter already decided. » 22 So she became pregnant [with the child], and she withdrew with him to a distant place. 23 Then the pains of childbirth brought her to the trunk of the palm tree, and she said: “Woe is me! That I had died before this moment! And that I was totally forgotten! » 24 Then he called to her from beneath her, saying, “Do not be distressed. Your Lord has placed a spring at your feet. 25 Shake the trunk of the palm tree towards you: it will make fresh and ripe dates fall on you. 26 So eat and drink and let your eyes rejoice! If you see anyone from among humans, say [to him:]: “Assuredly, I have vowed a fast to the Most Merciful: therefore I will not speak today to any human being. » 27 Then she came to her people carrying him [the baby]. They said: “O Maryam (Mary), you have done a monstrous thing! 28 “Sister of Hârûn, your father was not an evil man and your mother was not a prostitute. » 29 She then gestured towards him [the baby]. They said, “How should we speak to a baby in the cradle? » 30 But (the baby) said: “I am truly the servant of Allah. He gave me the Book and appointed me Prophet. 31 Wherever I am, He has made me blessed; and He recommended to me, as long as I live, prayer and Zakat; 32 and kindness to my mother. He didn't make me violent or unhappy. 33 And peace be upon me on the day I was born, and on the day I die, and on the day I am raised alive. » 34 Such is 'Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary): word of truth, of which they doubt.
@@vivelamusiquereggaejazzblu3509When talking about the Muslim god, the name Allah is a name, not a word. And allah doesn’t mean God. Ilah. Ilahu. See but they’re all spelled the same because of how Arabic works without vowels.
@@BuffGamer88 I’m not saying its unreasonable for him to feel abandoned. Just that this is a mistranslation. He did not say he felt abandoned. He specifically asked for the punishment to end and be reunited. And in that Moment the Father agreed, ended the punishment, he died an earthquake happened, the solar eclipse ended, and the 1 foot thick curtain to the jewish temple split in half vertically, allowing any to enter.
Your ai isn't smart enough! Revolutions chapter 3, 21 Jesus said he sits in the father's throne with the father. Isaiah 6 9 would destroy the lies of the Muslim ai. Unto us a child is born- his name shall be called the almighty God the ever lasting father. Jesus is not a creation. He is a division of God!! And if the ai would have addressed the holy goast. It would have messed him up with another 1000 scriptures! Thanks for the video. Keep up the good work!
@@ban_tuoagreed. If we can just give points based off of “I’m right because it’s in my book” then we can say that you can fly on broomsticks because it’s in Harry Potter 😂
I don't believe artificial AI . ALLAH IS THE GREATEST. ISLAM is true jesus is a prophet of ALLAH like other prophets every prophets is miracle with the permission of ALLAH.not only jesus. ALLAH send these all prophets and books bible,torah,but people change it time. And the last final prophet is Muhammad saw peace be upon him and the last final book is Quran. True words from GOD ALLAH
A single personage God cannot be both just and merciful. Gravity is just but it isn't merciful. Falling can hurt and even kill unless a merciful cushion arrests the sudden stop. God the Father is just while God the Son is merciful and He proved it by exchanging His life for ours.
I really have to disagree here. God the Father & God the Son are one. They are one in everything and in every aspect of everything. Because God is lawful & righteousn, He came to save us from His wrath. God is both lawful & merciful. He cannot be merciful without being lawful & He cannot be lawful without being merciful. He's totally lawful & righteous .. and He is totally merciful .. all at the same time .. & all in the same nature & essence .. He actually cannot be otherwise .. He won't be God, then.
@markstein2845 Yes indeed Jesus is in the Will of His Father. We know this from verses like Luke 22:42 - “Not my will, but thine be done.". Here is what I've learned through my studies of the Scriptures. If you find out that you require more Scriptural proofs after reading my response I'll be glad to provide you with the Scripture references. It was mankind's sin in the Garden that caused our immediate spiritual death and the theophany of Jesus explained to them that the only atonement for their wrongs was through the cost of a perfect life (the shedding of blood). A just judge like God the Father can only be just and is in no way forgiving as He is just. A ⅒ of a mile over the speed limit carries the same penalty as 110 over, and the penalty for is death. With God the Father, all sin carries the same judgement which is death otherwise He wouldn't be a just judge. A merciful judge like God the Son who has left the evidence that He exists knows that not everyone has or will come to the Father through the knowledge that He lived, died, was buried, and rose up from the grave. Romans 1:20 which says, "For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse". It is through the Mercy Seat of Christ through the finished work of Calvary that we can have a personal relationship with God the Father. God the Father is Just and His Son Jesus is Merciful. Read about the Righteousness through Faith in Romans 3:21-31. We are justified (just as if I'd - never done it) through our Trust in Jesus. We have to be justified before the Just Judge the Father by the sacrifice He provided through His Forgiving Son when He poured all of our sins upon the Son. My point about Islam's theology is that no single entity can be both a just judge and a merciful judge. The being has to be one or the other. No single entity can provide justice and mercifulness since any judgment has to be either just or merciful. The one true living God, our Triune God, works out both justice and mercy through the different attributes each part of the Godhood's personage. Bear in mind 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to show yourself approved unto God a workman needeth not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth. Keep studying, use good Bible reference tools such as the BLB & The Step Bible as well as websites live Got Questions Dot Org to assist you in your research and walk with God.
So by that you actually confirm them being a different existence than each other, because they have different qualities and they are not 100% the same.
this and this english bible is not equal to aramic ingil when will they understand reading jews translation of bible in there way go chirstians read and understand ingil in its real language good job muhammad bhai magar phir bhi nahi samjhenge ye log
@@turner6411what injil... When God says in the Bible that it cannot alter its word and that the Bible is complete.... Why should we believe what your Quran which came 5 centuries later tells....... Also you say Bible was changed.... Well why was your god not able to protect it then.... Where is the real ones then? Why your god did not protect the real Bible.....
You guys can never win an argument with Christians🤣🤣🤣 your whole deen’s foundation is based on pseudo history, conspiracy theories and violations of logical fallacies
@@razoruzumaki8251 John 17:3. "This is eternal life, that they may know You(the Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND Jesus Christ who you sent. That proves that Jesus was sent by the only true God. John 20:17. Jesus says he is going to"MY GOD" and "your God." We all know that God does not have a God. If Jesus is going to his God, then he cannot be God. There is much more evidence to show that Jesus is not God.
@@razoruzumaki8251 the problem is that you have statements from other people that hint that he might be God. Nothing clear and explicit like the verses I showed you, which suggests that he is not God. You have NOTHING from Jesus' mouth that makes that claim, only the opposite. Don't you think it's strange that Jesus forgot to mention he was God and came to die for everyone's sins?
@zaydquarless1046 Hi Zay. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and these verses. I appreciate the opportunity to engage in this important discussion. Let's take a closer look at the verses you mentioned and then explore other scriptures where Jesus' divinity is affirmed. John 17:3 - "This is eternal life, that they may know You (the Father), the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." In this verse, Jesus emphasizes His role as the one sent by God. This does not negate His divinity but rather highlights His mission and relationship with the Father. The concept of the Trinity explains that God is one in essence but three in persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. John 20:17 - "I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God." Here, Jesus speaks from His incarnate human nature. In His role as the mediator between God and humanity, He acknowledges the Father as His God. This reflects His dual nature as fully God and fully man. John 8:58 - "Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.'"Jesus uses the divine name "I am" (Greek: ἐγώ εἰμι, ego eimi), echoing God's self-identification in Exodus 3:14. John 10:30-33 - "I and the Father are one." The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, 'I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone Me?' The Jews answered Him, 'It is not for a good work that we are going to stone You but for blasphemy because You, being a man, make Yourself God.'"Jesus explicitly claims unity with the Father, leading His audience to understand that He is claiming to be God. John 14:9 - "Jesus said to him, 'Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?'"Jesus equates seeing Him with seeing the Father, indicating His divine nature. Revelation 1:17-18 - "When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, 'Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.'"Jesus uses titles ("the first and the last") that are used for God (see Isaiah 44:6). These verses cleary provide no room for alternatives when discussing was Jesus really God or not. These specific wording can not be mistaken with any thing else. But I'm still more than willing to hear you side Brother/Sister.
@zaydquarless1046 Before Abraham was born, I AM. The Father and I are One. I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. The only way to the Father is through me. This is just a few. So many times, Christ says he is God. The Jews knew what his claim was, because they tore their robes and said it was blasphemy. Jesus wrote with his finger in the dirt at the stoning of the adulterous woman. This was done while he was reminding the crowd of the commandments that were written by God with his finger and given to Moses. Not to mention the mathematical odds that Jesus fulfilled over 300 prophecies. To provide a foundation for that, the odds of fulfilling 8 is 1x10^17. Also, his disciples left and went back home after he died bodily. They didnt want to be put to death foe having been his diciples. They thought he wasn't God. Then he rose and showed himself to over 500 eye witnesses. The followers of Christ believed it so much they willing allowed themselves to arrested, tortured, and killed. They never once renounced their faith and eyewitness testimony. They willingly died for their beliefs. Liars do not do that.
10:22-10:40 Did anyone else catch that? The verse the Muslim AI used could refute it's own argument and it just skipped over it. "It is the father, LIVING IN ME, (God is dwelling within the physical form of Jesus) who is doing the work."
The problem is, Muslims don't actually read their own Qu'ran, because they say: "Bible and Torah were corrupted/changed by men." Which is in disagreement with their god "Allah", who says: 1) "Torah and Bible are the word of God" (Qur'an Surah 2:41, 3:3, 5:43-48). 2) "Words of God cannot be corrupted" (Qur'an Surah 6:115, 18:27). 3) Jesus says "I am the Way, The Truth, and The Life, no man can come to the Father except through me" (Bible, John 14:6). 4) If you believe the Qu'ran, you must then believe the Bible - which then cancels the Qu'ran. A true Muslim is an ex-Muslim.
Muhammad claimed he was prohesied by both Jews and Christians, and held both with favorable disposition. Then he encounters Jews who didn't recognize him and laughed. Changing his tune about them while still praising Christians. Then he met Christians who did likewise. So what the Quran says about Jews and Christians and their scriptures changes over time (which would indicate that what was said was Muhammad's own thoughts and not words of an all-knowing changeless god). Both Jews and Christian texts do refer to Muhammad though, but under the miscellaneous title 'false prophet', likely the cause for the laughter and spurning. Also as a spicy aside they do believe that sins are propitiated, but onto Christians and Jews, not by Christ. (Sahih Muslim 2767d) (Deuteronomy 18) Prophets of God don't prophesy falsely nor are deceived in their conveyance, otherwise they are not from God. The inclusion of the Hadiths and other writings which are supposed to be appealed to under Islam in such a 'debate' would make it far more spicy and far more definitive in highlighting particular inconsistencies.
Completed calmness with the ai's providing good arguments. Then you run to the comment section to mostly find people just bashing on one side or another, They just attacks ones iq or other crap like that and it makes me laugh at the irony
1. The Quran was written in the year 632 AD. While the oldest New Testament papyri date from approx. a century and a half after the death of Jesus. 2. The Quran is attributed to ONLY ONE person. While the New Testament includes 27 books, whose authors are at least 8 people. 3. For the previous reason, the Quran does not vary much in its versions (as happens with novels). While the Bible has certain discrepancies, which are expected from a historical event narrated from different perspectives. Now, based on this, which text seems more reliable?
Quran has been preserved and we have a script of it with 100% identical verses to the ones today. There’s also a clear chain of narration that support the preservation of the Quran. The compilation of the Quran was done by memorizers (like thousands and tens of thousands) which meant that no authoritative figure could ever change it because everyone that memorized it would find out and denounce it. And so the Quran is proven to be preserved, was compiled by memorizers who lived with the prophet pbuh, and there’s clear chain of narrations (meaning the names of the ones that preserved it) dating all the way back to Muhammad pbuh himself. The bible earliest scripture was a century after his death, but unlike the Quran there’s no known memorizers of the bible dating from the time of Jesus ra himself. And if there were they didn’t write down the copy or they weren’t able transmit and compile the perfect bible. This means that only after a couple years of a theoretical “true bible” the lack of memorizers and compilers could mean the bible was altered throughout the century to come.
Oldest is one thing, but preserved is something else. Bible have many version, many church Father or Popeye change the context to fulfill his own needs. So Bible this day is already debunk, FYI we Muslim also believe in the Bible that came from Allah to Prophet Jesus PBUH, somehow old testament which was written in Hebrews while new Testament was written in Greek, FYI once again, Jesus spoke Aramaic, not Hebrews nor Greek which your Popeye wrote it down and you believe in denial. Why need Old and New? Where’s the original or can i say the one which supposed to be written in Aramaic, bcs Jesus spoke thru that language.
Read the history of the compilation of the Quran. There are many copies that were burned by Uthman, and there is no evidence of the existence of Uthman’s copy of the Quran. The Quran today is not complete. There are Quranic surahs and verses that are not found in the current Quran. The source of my words are authentic hadiths. Research more about the stage of compiling the Quran. The Quran is not complete. It was distorted by the admission of the companions themselves. Just research honestly. The Quran is fake.
@@nabilxazwanThe Quran we have is not like the Quran that Muhammad brought. Research the history of the compilation of the Quran. The companions deleted entire chapters and verses from the Quran forever. For example, the verses about stoning are not present. I advise you to read the book “Mushafs of Abu Dawud.”
I disagree. God can be find with logic. At least for me personally found the only thing that worth to be called as God is the first cause in the chains of causality law. And here the functionality of religion is telling us that The First Cause have a will. If you understand this, there's no reason to be a disbeliever.
The many many many many many many many Qurans should not be used at all. Would you agree? Quran 65:4 for an example of why it shouldn't be used. To debate Doctrines inside the Bible, we should use different Christian beliefs (denominations) who uphold the Bible as "Final Authority". Muslims don't hold the Bible as "Final Authority".
@@abdulrahmanhaffar3502 Here's an A.I. response: There are multiple matches for different versions of the Quran, including different versions used in different regions and different types of Qirat: • Different versions used in different regions There are different versions of the Quran used in different regions, including: • Warsh: Used in Algeria, Morocco, parts of Tunisia, West Africa, and Sudan • Qalun: Used in Libya, Tunisia, and parts of Qatar • al-Duri: Used in parts of Sudan and West Africa • Hisham: Used in parts of Yemen • Hafs: Used in Saudi Arabia • Different types of Qirat There are also ten different recognized versions of the Quran, known as qiraʼat, which are different types of Qirat: • Qirat Naafi' Al-Madani (Madinah) • Qirat Ibn Katheer Al-Makki (Makkah) • Qirat Abu Amr al-Basri (Basra) • Qirat Ibn Aamir ash-Shami (Syria) • Qirat Asim Al-Kufi (Kufa) • Qirat Hamzah al-Kufi (Kufa) • Qirat Al-Kisaa'i (Kufa)
"Muslims quote the Bible while also claiming that the Bible is corrupt." That is the same approach every historian has to the bible. They don't dismiss it entirely nor believe it blindly. How could you do anything else, given the fact that it's collected hearsay and that stories are told differently?
Exactly, it assumes Christian theology before going out to prove it. This is exactly the same pre-suppositional attitude that many Christians unfortunately have today. They read their beliefs INTO the Book, rather than reading the Book to get their beliefs!
@@alayonjosh Nope, it comes from the Church, and was only fully established at the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. - which is almost 300 years after Jesus left the scene. The Bible teaches pure monotheism, just like the Qur’an. Muslims got it right. All praise be to God, the one & only ☝🏼
Unbiblical? Isaiah 63:7-11 ESV Features: The father over the children of Israel, his (angel)messenger given to the people which is similar to the angel Jacob worshipped, and his holy spirit [7] I will recount the steadfast love of the Lord, the praises of the Lord, according to all that the Lord has granted us, and the great goodness to the house of Israel that he has granted them according to his compassion, according to the abundance of his steadfast love. [8] For he said, “Surely they are my people, children who will not deal falsely.” And he became their Savior. [9] In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them; in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; he lifted them up and carried them all the days of old. [10] But they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit; therefore he turned to be their enemy, and himself fought against them. [11] Then he remembered the days of old, of Moses and his people. Where is he who brought them up out of the sea with the shepherds of his flock? Where is he who put in the midst of them his Holy Spirit
The word “Trinity” is not in the Bible, but God the Father, Jesus the physical manifestation of God and the Holy Spirit of God are absolutely in the Bible. One God, who shows Himself in three ways. We call it the Trinity, but that’s our word.
The bible did not contradict Quran the bible contradict itself..how do you believe the bible to be a revelation when it comes later after Jesus departed? Is that even makes sense, the gospel was revealed to him not after him, imagine the Gospel of jesus from god was the gospel of mathew, mark, etc? that itself is a contradiction, how come you do have 4 versions of bible from god?
As a Muslim i think the 2 are just repeating the same question and answer every time and for uneducated Christians in the comments he is using the bible while saying it's courrpt because he is talking about Jesus and because you believe in it 🤦♂ and according to the mainstream scholars the bible is changed that's a fact
correct the bible was changed but there still is a one and true bible unchanged. they originally changed the bible to remove false scripture from people who claimed to have been witness but where not. over time man changed the word to fit what they wanted.
I also have to add and further agree with you, that the bible is factically changed in many ways. That is not necessarily a bad thing, but it emphazises that every religion is mostly man made. Religionforbreakfast is a good non biased educator on religion and that topic. I learned a lot there and can recommend him
Please demonstrate how the Bible has been changed. Or the meaning of it has been changed over time. We have a clear record of all the different variations or I should say translations of the Bible. You can also reconstruct the entire Bible from the early church fathers teachings. We also have the Dead Sea Scrolls, which confirm much of what we find in the Bible to be the same, you should take that microscope and put it back on your own Caraun and see how it’s been changed
I see Muslim AI completely relied only on Quran, whereas the Christian AI used I think many versions on which some of our Christian brothers also don't accept those versions. I just thought that what happens if Christian AI made difference between its own versions and I am sure enough it would accept Islam then and there. I hope our Christian brothers understand this
Yeah you see brother there are mistakes in the Bible that Muslim AI is pointing out and not only pointing but also giving undeniable facts from Quran and since Christian AI can't find any mistake, all it can do is cover mistakes by bringing different versions.
@@Rasshin there are no mistakes in the word of God only mistakes in understanding. To each there own understanding... That is why Christians beleive that one must not lean not into their own understanding
@@PokePackOpener-ql8ln yeah exactly that’s what we are saying, seek knowledge ask questions like how can a human who eats food with us who sleeps and needs rest can run the whole creation? I think you know prophet Ibrahim PBUH whose father is a idol worshipper but he also used to ask why does this stone that can’t do anything as much as move a hand be a God.
this could have been simple debate by asking who authored the Bible and who authored the quran. Simply put the Bible is creation of mixture of text by the church of Nicea and Constantinople in 3rd century whereas the Quran stands the test of incorruptible divine book even till today.
infinite + infinite + infinite = infinite Muslims who do not understand mathematics. It seems that mathematics is haram, just like drawing, music, philosophy and everything good.
There's 3 words that starts with the letter "O" that has only been used to describe one God. Parables could even lead one to interpret it as one word tp define each other the Trinity
The cristian debate was so weak about textual variation of the bible he should show that the quran version of jesus is so much latter than the cristian version and both quran and bible have textual variation, al ancient book, and this variation didn't affect the information of the text, only 01% it's affected, in the other hand existed so many version of the quran no variants but version.
@josiahserrano6651 he enswered the statement of the latter adicion by quote the bible, he should enswered showing the best manuscrits of the news testament and how there are reliable as source to see the historical jesus while the curam version of jesus it's too much later and a few manuscrits.
We're definitely not going to get additional revelation from AI... but these large language models have been trained on massive amounts of data, so they should have a pretty good grasp on the traditional perspectives of each faith that has been presented over the last two millennia. Experts in this subject matter likely won't be surprised by any response from these models, but people with lesser exposure to the scriptures can definitely learn something.
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This is such an awesome video! Kudos to you for thinking this up. The only critiques I have (towards the AI) are as follows:
• They could sometimes get quite repetitive. It starts out flexible & diverse, but the discussion quickly begins to go in circles.
• They make lots of assumptions such as the validity of the Bible or Qur’an as historical sources, without questioning them. For example, John’s Gospel (which made up the bulk of discussion) isn’t even a historically reliable source according to most scholars, and it was written very late and even contradicts the previous gospels (which completely lack the ‘I Am’ statements of Jesus’ alleged divinity). Or, consider that Paul wasn’t even a disciple to begin with, yet the Christian AI readily quoted his writings as if they are authoritative. The Muslim AI should’ve questioned this, especially since there’s a stark contrast between the teachings of Jesus versus the teachings of Paul.
The list can go on - but overall I found this stimulating, fun, educational, and highly enjoyable. Thanks for posting, and I can’t wait to see more videos like this!
Peace,
Your friendly Muslim viewer
*_”And do not debate with the People of the Bible, except in the most polite & dignified manner.”_* ~ _The Qur’an __29:46_ ❤
I'd love to see an additional model trained on Judaica participating in a sort of round table debate with all of these.
This was very interesting!
You should ask the Muslim AI whether Mohammed is a moral man! LOL
The muslim AI may say, well... other than pedophilia, numerous murders, armed robberies, slave trafficking, rape of captured slaves, torture of prisoners, etc., Mohammed was a very moral man of his time! LOL
Muslims quote the Bible while also claiming that the Bible is corrupt.
That mentality always makes me laugh
ironic christians do the same thing to jews
@markstein2845 u quote bc it hat u believe?
@@ayinlaoriyomi2517 no iq
bc christians dont quote quran?
But they never got mad and screamed at each other 😂😂
Ha. Exactly! After watching human emotion derail so many debates it was refreshing to hear point, counterpoint… not perfect, but hopefully headed in the right direction. I even programmed a line that said “at times, you get frustrated with your opponent…” to test if they would break with their respectful discourse.
@@JonOleksiukHaha. Very cool idea, my friend!
The judge also very smart in giving results. 🤣
The muslim ai about to mad😂😂😂
cause they dont care,they dont have a soul at stake,hah!
JESUS CHRIST IS THE TRUTH!!! ✝️✝️✝️
The way
John 14:6
@@djjinerson and the life
@@djjinersonYou guys forget the end of that statement, No man comes to the father by through me, the central issue is not Yeshua it’s Yehovah, Yeshua isYehovahs provision by who we go through to have a restored relationship with the father.
Muslims keep seeing Jesus in visions and converting. That should tell everyone that he is real.
This can't be a Muslim Ai because before replying each question it didn't say, " Sister asked a very good question."
*What your imams don't tell you*
Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*
*What your imams don't tell you*
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
*this is a mistake in the Qur'an!*
@@Hannestv4607 brother i dont think u know what ur sayin. 1 show me where Allah(swt) testifies this, 2 the writer of the Quran is Allah(swt) bro, then it was revealed to the prohpet(pbuh)
My friend. Are you saying that the Word of Allah does not exist according to the Quran?
The Word of Allah is the Son of God!
Son of God does not mean that God has a child!
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;*
as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *this is a mistake in the Qur'an!*
This was amazing. They didn’t even call each other Hitler. Not even once.
…I didn’t know online debate could do that.
Hitler loved Islam. 😂😂😂
That's how you know they are AI
it was ai not human.
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The Apostle Paul the Roman General that persecuted GODS people, would make Hitlers evil look like misdemeanors
This can’t be a Muslim AI. It didn’t interrupt and turn away the question
This should be pin 😂
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lol 😝
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And it doesn't say "i am not a scholar", "you need to read it in arabic"! 😂😂😂
There’s one small problem… The Bible clearly says, and it was written before the Quran that if we are an angel preach any other message any other gospel let them be acursed… this is exactly what happened with the Muslim faith… While in a cave, Mohammed, was accosted by supposedly the Angel Gabriel, and given a new gospel. this completely contradicts what was just written
Allah means God in Arabic.
In the God cited 25 among the thousands.
The 25 prophets cited are:
Adam (Adam)
Idriss (Enoch)
Nouh (Noah)
Houd
Salih
Ibrahim (Abraham)
Ismâ’îl (Sam)
Is-hâq (Isaac)
Ya’qoub (Jacob)
Lut (Lot)
Youssuf (Joseph)
Ayyoub (Job)
Chu’ayb
Moussa (Moses)
Haroun (Aaron)
Dhou-Lkifl
Dawoud (David)
Sulayman (Solomon)
Ilyas (Elijah)
Alyassa’ (Elisha)
Younus (Jonas)
Zakariyyae (Zacharia)
Yahya (John)
‘Issa (Jesus)
Muhammad ﷺ
Each messenger had a specific mission from God. For example: Abraham, Noah, Jonah, Jesus and Muhammad are all messengers but are not necessarily in the same geographical location. Each Prophet, with the realities of the people of his time.
I know that some will tell me that Jesus is a God. I refer you to the Bible.
John 5 30:
I can do nothing of myself: as I hear, I judge; and my judgment is right, because I seek not my own will, but the will of him who sent me.
John 15, 26
And Jesus said, "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who is from the Father, he will testify of me;"
In the Quran Surah 19
we
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Mentions, in the Book (the Quran), Maryam (Mary), when she withdrew from her family to a place towards the East.
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She put a veil between herself and them. We sent her Our Spirit (Jibril [Gabriel]), who presented himself to her in the form of a perfect man.
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She said: “I take refuge from you with the Most Merciful. If you are pious, [do not approach me]. »
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He said: “I am indeed a Messenger of your Lord to give you the gift of a pure son. »
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She said: “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, and I am not a prostitute? »
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He said, “So shall it be!” This is easy for Me, says your Lord! And We will make him a sign to the people, and a mercy from Us. It's a matter already decided. »
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So she became pregnant [with the child], and she withdrew with him to a distant place.
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Then the pains of childbirth brought her to the trunk of the palm tree, and she said: “Woe is me! That I had died before this moment! And that I was totally forgotten! »
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Then he called to her from beneath her, saying, “Do not be distressed. Your Lord has placed a spring at your feet.
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Shake the trunk of the palm tree towards you: it will make fresh and ripe dates fall on you.
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So eat and drink and let your eyes rejoice! If you see anyone from among humans, say [to him:]: “Assuredly, I have vowed a fast to the Most Merciful: therefore I will not speak today to any human being. »
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Then she came to her people carrying him [the baby]. They said: “O Maryam (Mary), you have done a monstrous thing!
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“Sister of Hârûn, your father was not an evil man and your mother was not a prostitute. »
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She then gestured towards him [the baby]. They said, “How should we speak to a baby in the cradle? »
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But (the baby) said: “I am truly the servant of Allah. He gave me the Book and appointed me Prophet.
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Wherever I am, He has made me blessed; and He recommended to me, as long as I live, prayer and Zakat;
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and kindness to my mother. He didn't make me violent or unhappy.
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And peace be upon me on the day I was born, and on the day I die, and on the day I am raised alive. »
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Such is 'Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary): word of truth, of which they doubt.
@@M.ArsalanKhan-gs6zp there’s tons of evidence… Josephus the historian as well as many other living not too long after Jesus comment on His life. In fact there’s at least as much writing about Him as Cesar. In fact there are writings from Roman officials to one another about His life.
@@M.ArsalanKhan-gs6zp As someone who was once a very strong atheist who would often debate my christian colleagues in academic institutions, the argument that Jesus did not exist is something no atheist worth their salt has ever attempted to defend. Jesus of Nazareth is a historical figure with numerous corroborating accounts that solidify him in non-religious, impartial academic historical literature as a prominent speaker and religious leader of Jewish descent. Even Jesus's crucifixion is well-documented abiblically. Just read through the Wikipedia page on "Sources for the historicity of Jesus" if you want to educate yourself, and you can see the cited literature if you wish to go deeper than that.
@@vivelamusiquereggaejazzblu3509bro give it up. Did you watch the vid? Your Muslim AI got destroyed by facts, logic, and God’s scripture. Go get baptized bro Jesus is king forever and ever.
@@M.ArsalanKhan-gs6zpeyewitness testimony. Also your lack of knowledge doesn’t equate to a lack or evidence, you just gotta go and do your research honestly.
I am a simple man, I eat , I sleep, I work 9 to 5, and I pray to Jesus Christ.
Not enough but better than a muslim
😊 love that ❤
May Allah guide you to the right path 🤲🏽
@@bankroll_gotti99 your allah isn't God , is Satan
@@bankroll_gotti99 i've studied both Christianity and muslim religion , every bit from it and I can confirm and even proove islam is a Satanic religion.
Muslim AI is debating like Muslims debaters, repeating itself over and over without making any point. Note: jesus christ is lord and God 💯%. Without him the second death "HELL" you will not escape it.
And christian AI is giving the same answer that doesnt make sense 😂
it did get a bit repetitive towards the end. Again, I did this without human intervention, perhaps in the future, a moderator could keep the conversation from looping back to certain scriptures. Maybe repeating a scripture is penalized, i don't know... thanks for the note.
@@sayedomairsiam6344 which answer were you referring to?
@@JonOleksiuk NOPE, judgement should based on satisfactory answer not repetition
To you it doesn’t make sense because the concept inferential reasoning is not natural or possible for people that are indoctrinated into taking everything word for word.
I felt sorry for the Muslim AI, it couldn't resort to violence to defeat the opponent and struggled with the Christian AI quotes. For example, it kept saying "when you look at the text this way or that way..." [Paraphrased] instead of giving anything concrete.
And I find Christian AI explanations logically making sense
exactly , they know about jesus devinity, but they CHOOSE to interpret it differently lmaao
God becomes man,sinless.
To be a fair judge,live as a man, die as a man.feel our joys and pains.
Better equipped to judge fairly, having lived as a man.
Would I listen to someone who learned about depression from a book? Or listen to someone who lived through depression and came out the other side. Experience of the situation makes one better equipped to judge or help.
Maybe you miss understood
Jesus is spiritual being in human form but he doesn't claim to be the creator of the universe
Never argue on 2 topics:
1:Politics.
2:Relogion.
~ A Wise Man
I was waiting for Christian AI to say "The quran says Mohamed is mentioned in the bible. The bible does not mention Mohamed once how comes?" 😂
Even better, the Quran says Jesus is the spirit and the word of Allah
@@juliorosado3709 exactly, also Q says Jesus as an infant gave life to a clay-bird by 'breathing' into it, just like how God created Adam. They also affirm (khalimatallah) Jesus will be the judge of all the earth
Yes, it does.
"Be wary of false prophets who come in sheep clothing but are actually ferocious wolves"
Matthew 7:15-20
@@juliorosado3709 and God is the Word, I forgot the verse but it went something like, In the beginning was the Word, and the word was with God, and the word WAS GOD.
The Holy Quran is the final book. And the book you call the Bible is not the actual Bible that was given to mankind. And if you watch the DAWAH TH-cam videos you will see proof and citing's of this. Don't believe me, go check the proof yourself.
If Jesus is God so how possible God died on cross ? As a muslim I know Jesus is immortal (massiha), prophet and servent of Allah as a messenger same like David, Solomon, moses, Isaac, Muhammad, Abraham etc etc
Would you not think god is all powerful? If god "dies" he can ressurect if he wants.
This is good, but they seemed to repeat some argument structures too much.
They lack ability to make deeper prophetic connections between old and new testaments.
good thought, maybe a round on prophecy would have been beneficial, thanks for the note.
Good point. That goes along with islamic teachings (Quran) claiming to be abrahamic (use of the Old Testament prophets and Jesus) but finding sacrificial blood rituals for atonement not from God, something widely spreads in the Scriptures it affirms. Islam and this muslim AI have problems - inconsiderate and flaws. An AI is just an ai anyway and Islam is just it.
Also it lacks some specific nuance. Like theologically the moment you admit Jesus was with God in the begining, it already establishes Him as God, not as servant.
The problem with Surah Al-Baqarah 2:79 is that we have manuscripts older than the Quran that line up with todays Bible. Also affirming the argument of the Christian AI.
Earliest manuscripts of the bible are in Greek language while Jesus spoke aramaic not Greek. There will definitely be errors and corruptions
@@ibrahimbashir6082 I know it's a leap but I think God knows all languages
Why do muslims keep limiting God?
400 years after Esa pbuh
The Ai got given corrupted information
As a Christian myself, I found this really dumb. AI just kept arguing the same points back and forth, and yet different point values were given out each time. Not only that, but the debate is pointless in and of itself. Two MAJORLY opposing religions, which are the complete opposites of each other, could never have an honest debate to begin with.
Yeah these AI aren't smart enough. They basically cite scripture back and forth to counter eachothers argument, which even considering how much sense they make.
Its not clear how an impartial judge gives out points when both sites quite scripture that supports their claims
The points the judge gives out are on a literary rubric, the kind you would use for two people debating equally valid opinions based on equally valid facts. It deducted points any time an AI did not make a strong enough verse citation which is a terrible metric for judging the strength of an argument.
The actual debates by real people inevitably veer into debating the truth of those underlying, incompatible facts. It's the only way you can possibly reach a conclusion when one book explicitly says "he is not" and the other says "he is." My preferred tactic is to look at those passages that say "he is not" and ask "if this was the all-knowing God speaking to Jesus, why doesn't he know what he's talking about with the third part of the Trinity?" It's a fun early checkmate as you get to watch a Muslim either explain how Allah is wrong, how the book is wrong, how Muhammad was wrong, how Christians are wrong about what Christians believe, sputter something about Saints, try to completely change the topic, or leave.
*What your imams don't tell you*
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
*this is a mistake in the Qur'an!*
*What your imams don't tell you*
Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*
@@Hannestv4607ah yes the koran writer was ignorant. the only one ignorant is you commenting about a religion without understanding or researching at all about it.
U know it’s the end, when two computer have this conversation.
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RabbAI
Imam khumAIni
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I honestly enjoyed this and hope they cover many topics. Baptist vs charismatic world be a good one lol
😂😂😂😂 i find this comment to be hilarious. One AI might hack the other😂
Jesus called the magician . son of pantera in Judaism 🤣
👚THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD "the last age in which God is saving man from the imminent destruction of this old world"
(These things must be spoken directly and clarified for the sake of human understanding, or man will not be freed from Satan's influence. The ways that Satan corrupts people only on a superficial level; Even worse are the deceptions that hide under this outward form that Satan uses to achieve his goal. What is this scam? Forced occupation--this gives a very strong effect. (And makes a tempting offer, and this is lying.) Is lying not the same as fraud? The purpose of lying is actually to deceive you! Are there any other scams? (It tempts, harms, blinds and deceives) (it controls man, holds man, frightens man greatly and prevents man from believing in God.) What does this mean by "coercion"? This means using threats and coercive tactics to force you to comply with it making you think about what might happen if you don't comply. What does "fraud and trickery" entail? Satan makes up several stories and lies, tricking you into believing them. It will do everything to achieve its goals. Sometimes it does you a little favor, while it entices you to sin. If you don't obey it, it will torment you and punish you, and it will use various methods to attack you and trap you. The sixth is destruction of body and mind. Which part of man does Satan destroy? (Man's mind and whole being) Satan destroys your mind, deprives you of the ability to resist, which means your heart slowly turns to Satan when you least expect it. This is where Satan dwells, seizing and devouring them. 🙏)
Almighty God said
WHAT THINGS must be spoken DIRECTLY and clarified for the SAKE of MAN'S UNDERSTANDING, or MAN will NEVER be freed from SATAN'S influence. The WAYS SATAN CORRUPTS PEOPLE are just the SUPERFINE layer; Even WORSE are the deceptions hiding UNDER this OUTER form that SATAN USES to ACHIEVE his PURPOSE. ☀️
WHAT IS THIS SCAM? Mix them together: (It deceives, seduces and intimidates) (It also uses sweet language. When--it influences and forcibly conquers the People.) Forced conquest----this gives a very strong effect . (And makes a tempting offer, and it lies.)
Lying is one of the things it does.
SATAN LIES to DECEPT you. WHAT is NATURAL LYING? Is LYING NOT the SAME as FRAUD? 😥
The purpose of lying is actually to deceive you! Are there any other scams? (It tempts, harms, blinds and deceives)
(it controls the person, holds the person, scares the person very much and prevents the person from believing in
God.)🌹🙏🌷
There are SIX MAIN DECEPTIONS that SATAN USES to CORRUPT PEOPLE.
The FIRST is control and coercion. That is, Satan will do everything he can to control your heart. ☀️
WHAT DOES "force" MEAN?
This MEANS USING THREATENING and FORCING TACTICS to FORCE you to COMPLY with it you THINK about what could HAPPEN if you DON'T OBEY. You are afraid and do not dare to oppose it, so you submit to it. 🌹🙏🌷
The SECOND is fraud and trickery.
WHAT does "fraud and trickery" have to do with it?
SATAN MAKES UP SOME STORIES and LIES, TRICKING you into BELIEVING them.
The THIRD is forced indoctrination.
What is forced to teach the People?
Is forced indoctrination done by the will of the People? (No) Even if you don't agree, there's nothing you can do. SATAN DOCTRINES you WITHOUT you KNOWING it, IMPRESSING his THINKING, his LIFE POLICIES and his SPIRIT on you.
The FOURTH is threats and enticements. That is, Satan uses various tricks to get you to accept it, follow it, work in its service. It WILL DO EVERYTHING to ACHIEVE its GOALS. Sometimes it gives you SMALL favors, WHILE it LEADS you to SIN. If you DO NOT FOLLOW it, it WILL TORTURE you and PUNISH you, and it WILL USE various METHODS to ATTACK you and TRAP you. 🙏🌹🙏
The fifth is deception and paralysis. "Deception and paralysis" is Satan's construction of certain sounding words and ideas to suit the minds of the People, to make it seem as if it takes into account the physical condition of their lives and tomorrow, when the truth is it isits only purpose is to deceive you.
Then it paralyzes you so that you do not know what is right and what is wrong, so you are deceived without knowing it and come under its control.
The sixth is the destruction of body and mind.
Which part of man does Satan destroy? (Man's mind and whole being) SATAN DESTROYES your MIND, REMOVES you of the ABILITY to RESIST, which MEANS your HEART will slowly TURN against SATAN when you least expect it. 😢
It instills these things in you every day, every day using these ideas and cultures to influence and deceive you, slowly destroying you, so that you no longer want to stand up for what you call righteousness.
You don't realize it, you don't have it anymore
KEEPING SWIMMING AGAINST the CURRENT, INSTEAD of just WAITING for it.
"Destruction" MEANS that SATAN TORTURES people so MUCH that they BECOME SHADOWS of THEMSELVES, NO LONGER PEOPLE. This is where SATAN LIVES, CHOKING and SWALLOWING THEM. 🙏
Each of these tricks that Satan uses to CORRUPT MAN can take away man's power to fight; any of these are DEADLY to PEOPLE. Simply put, whatever Satan does and whatever trickery he uses can weaken you under SATAN'S CONTROL and SUBMERGE you in a MASSAGE of EVIL and SIN.
These are the DECEPTIONS that SATAN USES to CORRUPT PEOPLE.
What are the consequences of Satan's corruption of the People? What corrupt dispositions do they express and reveal? (PRUDENCE and PRIDE, SELFISHNESS and DISGUSTINGNESS, BADNESS and DECEPTION, CRUELTY and MALICUS, and COMPLETE INHUMANITY.) 😪
In sum, we can say that they have no personality.
In summary, the things that stand out the most about corrupt humanity are ARROGANCE, DECEPTION, MALICIOUSNESS, and SELF-CONFIDENCE. 😪
However, you all missed one thing.
PEOPLE have NO CONSCIENCE, LOST their RIGHTEOUSNESS and have NO HUMANITY----YET there is ONE who does VERY IMPORTANT THING you DIDN'T MENTION, that is, "betrayal" 😢😢
The FINAL CONSEQUENCE of these DISPOSITIONS that EXIST in ANY person the MOMENT they are CORRUPTED by SATAN is their BETRAYAL to GOD. 🙏
From "The Word Appears in the Flesh"
Fulfillment of (John 1:1) and (Ezekiel 2:9-10), (Rev. 19:9,13)
📥Calling and leading everyone to His lowered Kingdom or Church because it is still standing on earth in the holy place in the air/ youtube "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD 💐 this is the fulfillment of what He said to Peter 2,000 years ago, recorded in (Matthew 16:18'19).
This is the the only Church of each one of our spirit that we must listen to or eat and drink like how we eat, dress and sleep every day so that He can guide us and change us by rejecting the evil attached by satan so as to be perfect,
having attained eternal life that will enter the coming replacement of the New Heaven and New Earth. 📩
Note📩
Almighty God said,
Life in the Kingdom is the life of people and God Himself. Humanity depends on My care and precaution, and all are engaged in fighting the great red dragon to the death. In order to win this last battle, and to end the great red dragon, all people must offer Me their entire being, for My Kingdom. When I say "KINGDOM", I mean it is the life lived under the protection of divinity, where all humanity I constantly guide, I teach directly, so that the life of all humanity, although in world is as if it were in heaven, the true spirit of life in the third heaven . 🙏
The Quran was written about 600 years after Jesus, in the early 7th century. So, for accurate information about Jesus, would you trust those who lived with him and met him (the Gospel), or someone who came 600 years later?
And the ones who lived with him contradicted each other. The Bible is full of fallacies and contradictions as per the video shown as well. It’s about time you go back to the real Bible or come to Quran that affirms the previous revelations.
Trinity was innovated
It is the god who provides and gives he knowledge and information .
God never forgets and always knows truth. He can reveal history more perfectly than any human to his Prophets.
Revelation 22:18 - For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book: If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.
Before engaging in a debate, it's essential for the Christian preacher to clarify their understanding of God within the context of Christianity. Specifically, they should address whether they believe God is Jesus, a spirit, or a father. Once this foundational belief is established, they can then delve into the reasons for their choice and explain why the other options are not considered valid within Christian doctrine.
Please note that the term "rat house cube problem" is unclear and seems unrelated to the topic.
The Muslim AI keeps quoting John 5:30 but in the context of the rest of the chapter, Jesus is talking about being one with the father, rather than a polytheistic deity. He is saying that if you separate him from the father, and therefore make him a separate deity, he would be nothing, as God is one deity. The problem with this video is they debate verses, not chapters, and don’t provide context from other books within the Bible.
Muslim do this in real life as well
@lessardo87 the issue with your statement is the *and therfore make him a separate deity*. I belive that I am one with God. But I do not think that I am a deity. I belive this meaning to be the same as the saying * we were all of one mind* meaning in agreement or alignment.
@@jomama8577wow, perfect explanation
Does polytheism even come up anywhere in John 5? Having read John 5, I take it that your interpretation may have something to do with the wording in John 5:18, where John writes that the Jews were seeking to kill Jesus because they interpreted His actions as Him making Himself equal with God?
Is this what you have interpreted to mean that the Jews thought Jesus was making Himself a second deity, and that Jesus then spoke the words in John 5:30 as part of a long teaching where He was declaring Himself not to be a second deity, but a second person of the one deity?
That's not what John 5:30, or John 5 is about. You were right that John 5:30 is part of a passage where Jesus is testifying that He is one with the Father. But He isn't testifying to the Jews that He's God. He's testifying to them that He is one with God.
The way that He is one with the Father according to John 5 includes:
1. He seeks to do the Father's will and not His own. In this way, both Jesus and the Father are seeking to accomplish one individual's will - the Father's (see John 5:30).
2. He does nothing on His own except He sees the Father doing it. What He does is not what He comes up with Himself, but what the Father shows Him to do. In this way, Jesus' actions are the Father's (see John 5:19-21; compare v26).
3. His power and authority is from the Father (not from Himself). In this way, both Jesus and the Father are operating with the same authority and power of one individual - the Father (see John 5:27; compare v30; see also John 5:21 compare vv26-27).
The concept of allowing Himself to be limited by human form is actually quite interesting, because God without limitations is merely omnipotent as a characteristic. However being omnipotent WITH limitations and surpassing them, is omnipotent in action. It’s actually proving it and showing it, if there’s nothing to overcome you can’t really qualify yourself as an omnipotent. It’s like saying you’re courageous and brave, but you’ve never faced anything that made you afraid.
Interesting input, I've never seen people point this out. Gave me something to think about
Money
Bullseye!
"Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;"
Philippians 2:6
"No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from My Father.”
John 10:18
@@FastestSpeakerscorner That's one of my favorite Bible verses, give me chills Everytime. It's like Christ had everything to boast about with Him being God Himself but instead He humbled Himself to the lowest of lows.
Islam might be seen as clearer because it has a straightforward belief in one God (Allah) and well-defined practices like the Five Pillars. Its central text, the Qur'an, provides clear guidance for followers.
Islamic prayers are shallow and mechanical. You just recite and recite like a zombified parrot. I always felt bored when I used to pray in the mosque 🕌 this when I was not distracted by a yawning bearded guy next to me or the stinky feet smell of the carpets. Wake up and start using the remaining brain cells you have before being fully lobotomized. Saludos
That is because you did not understand the translation of Salah
When you understand the translation you know what are talking about with God
@@Perfected-Paragon We as followers of Christ are not Slaves to Religion. We are Sons in a Relationship with YHWH. The Gospel Message is not about what you do for God but it is about what God has done for the entire world by Sending the Eternal Son of God so that we can Reconciliation with God and have the Assurance of Everlasting Life with him. Jesus is the Only way to the Father. There is many false and failing Messiahs taught who does not fulfill the Messianic Prophecies. If your Messiah does not pass the Foundation of the Gospel Message of Jesus in the Old Testament then you have the wrong Messiah. The New Testament shows the Fulfillment of the Gospel Message of Jesus Christ. Anyone who distorts the Gospel Message of Jesus teaches the Oppisite. Muhammad taught the Oppisite amd distorts the Gospel Message of Jesus!
@@rc6289muslims also believe jesus is the messiah, we just dont believe hes god.
@@keemo9204 The Old Testament is the "Foundation" of the Gospel Message of Messiah. And the New Testament is the "Fulfillment" of the Gospel Message of Yeshua Hamashiach.
Your different 'Isa does not Match the Foundation of who the Messiah is to be.
Muhammad taught a Failing and False Messiah. Amd Distorted the Gospel Message of the Yeshua Hamashiach, Jesus!
I’ve heard Muslims give far better arguments against the divinity of Jesus than this AI, and I’ve also heard Christians give far better arguments to prove Jesus’ divinity than this AI. My point? Machines will never be better than the human mind. What we should be doing is trying to harness the full potential of the human mind, rather than taking the easy way out by turning to machines
Christianity is objectively more true, sounds like high-grade Islamic copium to me
At least muslim side have points.
At least Christian's base who our Messiah is from the Old Testament. And we Test the Old Testament Scriptures to the New Testament Scriptures. If the Messiah does not fulfill these ancient Messianic Prophecies then he is a False and Failing Messiah. And during Jesus First coming he Fulfilled 360 Messianic Prophecies. A Mere Man can not fulfill 8 of these Messianic Prophecy. It is very hard to be the Messiah and there is only One yet many false Messiah's are being taught.
What is rather sad, is Muhammad never read the Holy Scriptures but people believe His interpretation of the Holy Scriptures! And he denied the Divinity and the Eternal Sonship of the Messiah without even reading and studying the Holy Scriptures. He had little knowledge of the Holy Scriptures. He didn't even know when his different angel Gabriel told him false Revelation amd contradicted the True Angel Gabriel 600 years later. If he known the Scriptures he would of Rebuked the Angel.
In Galatians 1:6-10 it says:
Galatians 1:6-10 ESV
[6] I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- [7] not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. [8] _But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed._ [9] _As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed._ [10] For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.
To distort the Gospel you have to teach completely the oppisite. And let the man Muhammad amd his different angel Jibreel be accursed!
@@rc6289 St. Paul warned us about false angels, i agree with you.
Yes, it's beneficial for you, but the AI has considered these arguments numerous times. It can process and calculate various points without needing to explicitly state them. This is the power of machines while you might think of one counter-argument, the AI has thousands and can reach much deeper conclusions than a human. If you truly want to discuss AI, you need to understand how it operates. The AI knows it's communicating with another AI. otherwise, it wouldn't speak so recklessly. Next time you should know the depths of an AI and you should try why the ai came to that conclusion than you have your answer.
I noticed halfway thru the muslim AI stopped quoting the Quran and started using Bible scriptures.
Because the Koran lack of information and a true divine solid foundation. So the Muslim AI had to use the true divine source of life = the Bible 😁
Bro said The Bible is corrupted and then started using Bible verses.
@@school-replacement if someone believes in a book, then you would use that book to show that their belief is flawed, even if that book is corrupted because it is stupid to use a book A to show that book B is corrupt when you can just use the corrupted parts of book B to show that book B is corrupted and flawed. This stupid argeument of "oh you think the bible is corrupt then why use it to prove your point?" You live your whole life abiding by this book, why would you believe the quran if i used quranic verses if you dont believe in it? It seems christians cant think their arguements through,.
@@rxyy4ne560 No, when book B claims to be a continuation, a sequel, to book A
you present the many inconsistencies between the books. For that you will need book A.
Both Mohammed and Jesus do that. Jesus claims to be the fulfillment of the Old Testament
And I can easily show you how He fulfills the Old Testament. Here are prophecies detailing the Messiah......
'the Lord himself will give you a sign.
Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son,
and shall call his name Immanuel' (God with us)
(Isaiah 7:14)
'For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given;
and the government shall be upon his shoulder,
and his name shall be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace' (Isaiah 9:6)
And also.....
'He was despised and rejected by men,
a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;
and as one from whom men hide their faces
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
Surely he has borne our griefs
and carried our sorrows;
yet we esteemed him stricken,
smitten by God, and afflicted.
But he was pierced for our transgressions;
he was crushed for our iniquities;
upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace,
and with his wounds we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray;
we have turned-every one-to his own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all' (Isaiah 53)
A.ka Jesus Christ, The Son of God
Cause the Bible contradicts itself.
JESUS CHRIST IS THE GREAT I AM,……………. AMEN TO THAT ❤
since when did I am mean god
The problem is that these statements only appear in the Gospel of John, which scholars now recognize as being historically unreliable. The New Testament has 4 Gospels (Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John), and we can only find these “I Am” declarations in the last of the four (John) - which was written latest, contains provable fabrications (e.g. John 7:53-8:11), and contradicts the previous Synoptic gospels which never ONCE quote Jesus as making these “I Am” statements, which would be unthinkable for them to ignore or forget if they actually happened.
The truth is: stories about Jesus grew and developed over time, and his image & status was embellished as the years and decades went on. Mix that in with the highly probably Roman pagan influence from their idolatrous next-door neighbors (whose theology was swamped in ‘sons of God’ and human incarnations), that it’s clear to see what modern Christianity teaches today was not what Jesus himself claimed.
Islam takes us back to the original historical truth, which is that God is one (Mark 12:29), He alone is the source of goodness (which Jesus denied in Mark 10:18), and He alone-even in John’s Gospel-is “The ONLY TRUE GOD” (John 17:3).
I encourage you to read the Qur’an, God’s final revelation to humanity. It clarifies all things, and guides believers to the most upright truth and will of the Creator :) Peace.
@@jobayermasud5403 read the Bible.
@jobayermasud5403 Hmm, THE NAME - "YAHWEY🙏 (Holy Above ALL) - I AM : is the same name reviled to Moses. Nefarious mouse-slimes claim to worship the same God, whilst not knowing "not Only" the Name of God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob but also God's True Nature.
@@saviovaz2903 The fact that you insult Muslims (which simply means ‘one who surrenders their life to God’) shows just which God you truly serve. Also, we believe in the same God of Abraham - and “YHWH” simply means ‘The Eternal & Absolute One’ which is also God’s name & title in the Qur’an (‘As-Samad’; see Sūrah 112). Oh and by the way, nobody actually knows for sure how YHWH (the Tetragrammaton) was pronounced, because it was lost over time since only the high priest ever recited it. So by your own logic, you don’t know the name of God either.
And if that wasn’t bad enough, let’s not forget that the Gospels and New Testament never use the name “Yahwey” for God even ONCE. So, why are you using hypocritical double-standards? I hope you repent.
As Christians do you only resent us because we believe in God, and what was revealed to us, and what was revealed before, and because most of you are rebellious sinners?
As hilarious as this AI "civility" is, it certainly portrays our own reality, perfectly. Just in the first 6 minutes alone, a Muslim making an argument, receiving an answer, then asking the same question again with a few different words just to get the same answer a different but identical way, lmao. This is the reality of debating a Muslim. Bravo 👏
#facts
yea i woulda deducted points everytime a narrative is recycled. its true becuase bible/koran says so! it says its true! but what about that politition that says they talk only truth so thats true for that corrupt politition too?....
Its genuinely just getting the exact same response from the christian AI every time. The christian AI never addresses the point that the muslim ai makes (in part 1 at least) which is that god has no reason to become a human.
Some of the passages in the Bible is not corrupt. Muslims normally quote the Bible to show the contradictions within the Bible’s
Saul became Paul sticking to the Christian Jesus until the end
The AI imo could have answered much better than it did by elaborating on psalm 22. Psalm 22 is not about the abandonment rather the call and certainty that god will come and aid him. IMO that makes the argument stronger by explaining that “my god my god, why have you forsaken me” means rather when are you coming and that the time has come to fufill the prophesy. Because after he says it the storm on the cross ends and atonement for humanity has been completed. Psalms 22 even ends on “he has done it”. I recommend everyone read or listen to psalm 22, it is a beautiful chapter.
Not a Muslim nor a Christian just trying to speak objectively here,
everything that I'm going to say is with utmost respect to my fellow
Muslims and fellow Christians.
This debate falls short because the Muslim AI keeps quoting the bible
to disprove Jesus' divinity, which is like trying to extinguish a fire
using gasoline.
That makes it seem like the Muslim AI thinks that both
The Holy Bible and The Holy Quran are both at the same time the word
of God (which cannot be because both contradict each other on the very
point that this debate is based around) while trying to interpret the
bible verses to suit his narrative.
Found it interesting that there is no direct talk of the crucifixion,
resurrection and ascension of Jesus (from both perspectives) which is
a very important point to bring in a debate like this.
Finally, taking a look at the uploader's channel, you can see that
he's clearly Christian and did upload videos preaching Christianity in
the past, so how can we ensure objectivity and fairness here and can
he make sure that his personal beliefs didn't interfere with training
the AIs (even at a subconscious level)?
good points, this weekend i'm hoping to do another video featuring an atheist and theist using 14 different models as judges, asking them to create their own criteria for judging the arguments....we'll see how it goes.
well you clearly don't know a whole lot about Christians. By very nature and virtue to be like Christ is to be honest , unbiased , and loving . a true Christian follows the teachings.. what i say , being a former atheist and Muslim...read the Bible and it will be abundantly clear to you. Dont take my word for it , check yourself smarty pants i bet you are pretty intelligent and will realize how much in our life is lied to us.
@@sheepwolf921 but all people can t be honest some would do anyting to seem right so your point is cercular because i said the wold is not in the woods he is not in the woods kinda logic and u bieng a former muslim allah yahdic akhi
100%
This youtuber fooling the kids but we the mature educated audience knows what he is up to!
@@JonOleksiukI think that is a great idea. Please post it.
one Quran fighting with dozens of christian books . that should be enough to prove
it is embarrassment of extraordinary proportions for muslim to claim the bible has been changed when their prophet took an oath using the torah
That's just false statements.
You are 100 procent right
Tru story, Jezus is god
And not a profeet
Moslims think Jezus is a Moslims
Did Jezus take the sahada
I dont tink so
I no fore sure
God blesss you 1❤
I no fore sure that Jezus did not Thake the shahada
At that time the qoran was no where to find
The problem is, Muslims don't actually read their own Qu'ran, because they say: "Bible and Torah were corrupted/changed by men." Which is in disagreement with their god "Allah", who says:
1) "Torah and Bible are the word of God" (Qur'an Surah 2:41, 3:3, 5:43-48).
2) "Words of God cannot be corrupted" (Qur'an Surah 6:115, 18:27).
3) Jesus says "I am the Way, The Truth, and The Life, no man can come to the Father except through me" (Bible, John 14:6).
4) If you believe the Qu'ran, you must then believe the Bible - which then cancels the Qu'ran.
A true Muslim is an ex-Muslim.
@@Yeshua_Ha_Mashiacthe fact that you clearly didnt do further research or even look at the tafseer for these basic answers shows your competence. Go on and search up the clear tafseer and answers to your “contridictions”.
Next debate Muslim AI Vs ex-muslim AI.
"Does the AI system judge arguments based on its comprehensive pre-existing knowledge, thereby understanding the context of both sides, or does it evaluate the arguments purely based on the information presented in the discussions, without any additional background knowledge?"
Any rebuttal might been seen as stronger by an A.I.
One works by hand and one can work without hands and why?
Daniel 9:27 "He shall be firm in a covenant with many for one week, yet in the midst of a week shall he stop to make sacrifice in the wing. Abomination! The one who spreads desolation spreads desolation even until complete consummation, for the decree that shall be, is a flowing forth."
Revelation 12:12b-14 “The false one has come to fall, possessing great wrath, seeing his hold is a short time, for the dragon perceiving a casting out of the Earth shall pursue a woman who gives birth to a male with two wings, it is a great Eagle loving the woman, an order of things, to fly in a wilderness, her place where there is nourishment, time, time, the cutting off time, in the presence of the serpent.”
1) BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA - (the firm week) of 8 years
First time as 2009-2012 - Second time 2013-2016
2) DONALD TRUMP - The Cut-Off time
2017-2020
3) JOE BIDEN - an image of a beast time, in the midst of a week, of an image of his time, desolation in Jerusalem to spread to all the world - for then cometh Annihilation, the perishing of the end.
SO WHAT IS THE STORY THAT PEOPLE OUGHT TO KNOW???
Amos 1:6-7 “For thus saith Yahweh, “for three transgressions of Gaza, four, I will not revoke being against: they capture people at peace with them (1) and bring them to be shut up (2), bloody (3). And send fire over the wall of Gaza (4), and consume all of the citadels.”
Habakkuk 1:9-11 "All come, Hamas, assemble the horde of the east, gather the captives like sand. Mock the ruler, and their judgment a joke, laugh as all strongholds become rubble, seize them, then pass through like the wind, pass through guilty by the strength of your god.”
Obadiah 1:10-11 “from out of Hamas, your brother, a deceiver, cover your shame, and you will be cut off forever. In that day you stood afar, on the day the strangers were carried away in strength. And the stranger entered to cast lots for Jerusalem, then you were one of them.”
John 5:43 “I am come in My Father's name, and ye receive Me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.”
Luke 10:18 “and He (Jesus) said, “I saw Satan as Barack Obama.”
Micah 6:16 "It is owed unto America, and all who work the deed and the house Ahaz ("he has grasp the ten") and watch and keep you with their strange counsel. Walk in it for the purpose; I will give you up to desolation. And your inhabitants shall be a derision, for you will bear and be a reproach my people."
Daniel 8:25 "and through his cunning treachery shall advance, the hand shall magnify the heart, ruining many, the quiet oppose the prince of princes, for he is broken without hand."
Muslims must use their hands like October 7th, 2023, only they in Gaza Strip need West Bank to be in league with them.
Hosea 10:10 “It is in my desire that I should chastise them; and the people shall be gathered against them, when they shall bind themselves in their two furrows (West Bank and Gaza Strip).”
Obadiah 1:12-13 “Do not gloat over your brother’s day of taking strangers captive, nor rejoice in the day the sons of Judah are destroyed, do not boast in the day of distress. You should never enter at the gate of My people, in the day of their distress. Moreover do not gloat over their calamity in the day of their disaster, sending wealth in the day of disaster.”
This is Revelation 11:7-15.
Hosea 7:16 “Return ALLAH, deceive to ensnare their princes (the ten idiots from the remains of the Ottoman Empire who already had to deal with Arab Spring and the removal of kings in one month in Egypt, Libya, and Tunisia), they shall fall by the sword of an insolent tongue, they mocking in the land of Egypt”
Luke 17:24 “Only as Barack Obama exits heavens in one part and then thus exalts (Allah) Obama, then doeth the Son of man have His day.”
Isaiah 14:14 "Allah Obama ab dama elyown."
Habakkuk 3:11-13 "From the east the crescent stood at the heights, walking in the light of the weapons, the radiance of Barack (Husein Obama) from the thrust. There is indignation at his march on the Earth; in anger he trampled the nations. He went forth for the salvation of his people; for the salvation he's anointed. Now strike the head of the house of the wicked; lay him open from thigh to neck, commune with the Lifted High."
Isaiah 14:27-31 "Yahweh is the head of a force of armies, who can plan to frustrate? If His hand is stretched out who can turn it back? For the year is the year of the brought down king, Ahaz ("ahaz" means "he has grasp the ten"). He is dead is the oracle to come. Rejoice not Palestine though now thee be whole, for the rod who struck has been broken. The serpent is at the root with a venom. It shall go forth as a fruit, a flying forth from the serpent. Those most hopeless shall lie down in bonds, and shall die at the root in need, for their remnant will be slain. Wail at the judgment, cry out city as you melt, O Palestine now whole. For smoke from the North, and none shall break rank."
Why does Palestine whole means it melts? Xi and Putin never dreamed of prostration five times a day for seven years. Yet if the power of Christ Jesus confirms in Revelation 11:7-15, then they accept the confirmation and fight.
Isaiah 14:16 "They that see thee shall squint, saying, "this the man who shakes the whole world? He shook merely the region of the first."
Daniel 8:25 "and through his cunning treachery shall advance, the hand shall magnify the heart, ruining many, the quiet oppose the prince of princes, for he is broken without hand."
Xi and Putin don't need to use their hands.
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 "Let not one in any way deceive, it come not unless apostasy of the first of mankind, lawlessness revealed in a Son of destruction. The opposition to appointment exalted above every so called god or object of worship, therefore sit in the temple of a god, and display thyself as that god."
2 Thessalonians 2:8-9 “At that time a lawlessness will be Revelation. The demonstration, of which our Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth, abolishing at the appearing of His coming. One whose presence is in accordance with the power of Satan, all power of signs of falsehood marvelous.”
Isaiah 14:18-19 "All the kings of the Earth shall lie down in a manner most glorious, each in a tomb, yet you shall be cast out of a tomb. An abhorrent branch, clothed with the slain yet pierced by a sword. Kneel to the ROCK and descend in a pit to be trampled as a corpse."
NOW NOTE, IN THE REBUTTAL, PER THE QURAN, the Muslims who believe in Barack Hussein Obama are seriously fearful for their flesh melting in intense heat.
Quran 13:11b-14a says, “Never doeth Allah change the condition of a people, excepting they change themselves, and Allah intendeth evil for all people, and there is no stopping him. Neither doeth he accept an equal. Barack is he who showeth you the face of Allah, giving a fear and a hope, though heavy the clouds and the thunder, exalt and prostrate to him, for even angels fear him, for he sendeth forth thunderbolts, striking whom he wills, while they dispute before the face of Allah, and he is severe in his attack. To him alone are the prayers in truth."
Quran 7:45-47 says, “Who shall avert people from the path of Allah? And who will be declared the maker of deception? They were focused on the Hereafter, disbelievers. Between them shall be a barrier a family of men of Obama, who shall recognize them all by their markings. And one (Barack Obama) shall call out to the companions of Paradise, “PEACE ON YOU.” They shall not have entered, but shall have the assurance. And his eyes shall turn towards the people to be torched for they cry out, “Lord let us not be cast into fire among the wicked” but the man Obama shall say, “I know you by your looks, but none of your riches or pride of life shall avail you now, for these men have sworn that you may never earn the mercy of Allah.” Then he shall turn to his own BARACK (the blessing) shall say, “Come with me to paradise, for you will have nothing to fear, neither regret.””
"good question"
Think its the latter thats the problem, If it where different the christian would not get half the points
@@kiilah4357, an A.I. figures a strength and gives points, then if there is a rebuttal and it seems to cover any major points it gives more points to the rebuttal. Unless a rebuttal was worthless it would always call the rebuttal better.
Truth is never found by two people debating or by an evaluator no matter how how smart any speaker is. One has to evaluate the Holy Bible and the Quran on their own merit and that is how an answer between the two would be figured.
The same would be true for something like Hinduism and Buddhism. What are the original texts and how much sense do they make, what points do they have, and is the logic of the book sound.
Example: if Hinduism has ideas or images that are related to Christianity or Islam that does not strengthen any of the three.
Rather does the Quran have a chance of being more accurate on Jesus for example is one thing worth evaluating? Are more witnesses with various testimony a strength or a weakness?
If you and I both see a dolphin for the very first time in murky water are we likely to agree with each other? Is one of us more or less accurate? Does the fact that both of us witness make it more likely or less? If we agree on things yet disagree on things what does that even mean? Are your eyes better than mine? Do you have a better vocabulary than I? Who had a better vantage point of the circumstances? Who has familiarity with water animals and who doesn't? Furthermore, why had neither of us ever seen a dolphin before? How well can you study the witnesses?
If I told you Muhammed had a specific way of wiping his ass and here was the chain of narration, and then you agree to it, if I then have some new regulations that control your life a lot more than how to wipe your ass and give same chain narration you agreed to why is the new information so quickly forthcoming centuries later on this man?
@@kiilah4357No then the Christians would have double the points.
This Muslims AI is a fake Muslim. it didn’t interrupt, nor added plain assertions what the gospel teaches, NOT EVEN running away from the questions.
I don’t get what you mean, whose side are you on??
Amazing work my friend. When is the next AI debate?? I’m hooked! 😅
AMAZING, thanks for the encouraging note. this is a weekend/evenings hobby for me.... i'm trying to get the next one out as soon as i can. Hopefully by end of week, consider subscribing so you don't miss it!
@JonOleksiuk i need a video of how you set this ai up. I would like to add that ai's need to set context and can only use verses once but can use a verse twice if the other ai uses their one use the other could reference it and some other rules
This video is totally menipulated. And is not based on logic but based on religious scriptures. And as we all know that bible is not the same as it was revealed in the first place. Now you can buy many bibles than one. Even still new versions with new verses are being made. So which one is real? Man, shake up your head wake up quick. How can you explain GOD from a book which is written by humans and is not in its reall form anymore. And on the other hand. Quran is the same as it was reaveled by GOD. Travel around the globe and where ever you go. You ll find the same quran everywhere. Not even a single word would be different. So stop comparing a book with full of errors written by humans in it to a book that has not even a single mistake. Even it has scientific signs and predictions that not even modern science knew hundred years back. Man, from bigbang, to life came into existence by water, your pain recepters, higher dimentions, and many many many more descorveries that science has just made was already mentioned in quran 1400 years back when the word science wasn't existed. Did your Einstein wrote all that in quran? Man, you believe or not. Only ONE can know it the ONE that created all and knew all. And that is only GOD. Because it is obvious no human can create a universe when they cannot even explore it fully. So better, you remove errors from your book first and stop making new seasonal editions. But if you still wanna make new editions. Then stop calling it GODs word.
It is not the eyes that are blind its hearts.
u mean translations not versions and still we got manuscript to see falsehood , and ur claim that every quran is the same all over the world is a big big big lie brother u didnt research i guess but there are many diffrent qurans with diffrent teaches thats why for exemple marco banned the hafs version bc it teaches diffrent they say so u cant even recite it in mosque bc it teaches false hood they say pls do ur research lol
Christ is King
Muhammad said: "Allah hates those who don't accept Islam." (Qur'an 30:45, 3:32, 22:38) Jesus said: God loves the whole world and desires salvation for all. (John 3:16) Muhammad said: "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah. (Ibn ishag 992) Jesus said: "Love your neighbour as yourself" (Matthew 5:14) muhmmad said: " I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33) Jesus said: "I have come to seek and save those who are lost." (Luke 19:10) Muhammad stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206) Jesus saved a woman from being stoned for adultery. (John 8:7) Muhammad permitted Muslims to steal from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, in ishaq 764) Jesus said: "You shall not steal." (Matthew 19:18) Muhammad permitted Muslims to lie. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857) Jesus said: "You shall not (lie) bear false witness." (Matthew 19:18) Muhammad owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901) Jesus never owned or traded any slaves. Muhammad and his followers beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390) Jesus and his followers beheaded no one. Muhammad ordered the murder of those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) Jesus preached forgiveness. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38) Muhmmad said: Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in paradise by a hundredfold. (Muslim 4645) Jesus said: "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God" (Matthew 5:9) Muhammad married 13 wives and kept many sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50) Jesus never married. Muhmmad ordered the murder of women. (In ishaq 819,995) Jesus never harmed any woman.
Answer is clear!!
No word can be accurate presicely if its translated(I learned 3 languages, I should know above everyone else). If the Quran were to be precise as you say, that means the Quran can only be read by 1 language of communication, which deflects all others who speak other languages.
If the lord I follow is biased on where someone is born, then that is not my lord.
@@isidro182 You are saying big and showing so small. You said Quran have different versions. And as a prove you are talking about what a COUNTRY does ! Really? Does a country's rule&order changes the Quran's writtings[which remained unchanged even for thousands of years]😅And adding big four times doesn't make a matter false, it needs provement. Before judging anyone else, judge yourself first😒
The AI doesn't understand humility. Submission of the Son to the will of the Father is the greatest example of humility.
He made the will of the Father, He gave all the glory to the Father.
Perfect humility, for that reason God put His Son at His right hand in His throne, and gave Him all power and authority.
The Father gives testimony of His Son. The Son gives testimony of the Father.
The Holy Ghost gives testimony of the Father and the Son.
This is a good reason why the Trinity doesn't work.
YHWH is the only true and living God; there is no one like Him; there is nothing too hard for Him.
@@deborahsmith5285Trinity works perfectly
1. God
2. God has a spirit which means the spirit is still God
3. God spirits formed flesh , which means still God.
It’s the same God that has a spirit that formed flesh .
In Judaism God has always had an inseparable spirit. Islam comes to contradicts Gods nature even when 4:171 clearly states that Allah has a spirit and he breathes that spirit upon Mary womb to form a pure boy that will be a sign and mercy to mankind.
Isaiah 48:16
@@deborahsmith5285So, if there's "nothing too hard for Him" based on your words, then He can do what you're saying He can't do (be a Trinity)
The great thing about the gospel is that you have Jesus Christ as your representative. And because Jesus is God himself, there's no power in the universe that can stop him from bringing you to heaven.
👏👏👏 Amen to that 🙏🏼
If Jesus is truly God, why does he need to learn from God? In **John 8:28**, Jesus says he speaks only what the Father has taught him. Did he lose his memory and forgot that he's God!? If he is omniscient, why would he need teachings? This challenges the idea that he's God.
@@Yassine3333222222God is Spirit. Jesus came in the flesh ‘from God’ . His fleshly earthly life was temporary to teach us all things. When he went back to the Father the promise of the gospel is that those who call on the Name of Jesus, in prayer, will receive the Holy Spirit from the Father.
And Jesus said WE will come and make our home with you.
So Christ within us is the kingdom come to earth, as it is in heaven.
And he tells us to Ask Anything in his Name. In prayer. So when we pray to Our Father, in Jesus’ name, they both are ONE in Spirit. Inseparable.
@@missflipz You said he came to teach us, but the problem, he himself is learning from God. That's the problem. And there's very important question, Jesus never called himself God or ordered us to call him God. Do we have the right to do so!? From where we got that right!? A flesh from God is the same concept as a prophet from God. Same thing.
@@Yassine3333222222 He his not learning from the Father, he his showing how we should have a relationship with the Father.
Jesus is messenger of God/Allah, he never said he is god or to worship him. These are all your false claims while the only One God Allah said in the Quran that some hypocrites changed the verses of Bible that was revealed by Allah/God.
Its very interesting how by the end of the 1st discussion, the muslim ai was essentially the same question again and again, why would God need a sacrifice. The Christian AI says its because of Sin and Death, making the conversion abit cyclical.
the point system is weird here, i dont follow either religion but the muslim AI would respond with logic somertimes then the christian AI quotes scripture and get more points, its irritating
for example when the muslim AI said at the start of the debate why does god need to take a human form to forgive sin the AI quotes a bible verse that means you need to sacrifice blood to forgive sin but the answer doesnt have any logical merit to it and doesn't answer the muslim AI question yet got more points than it
to clarify, these models were asked to debate the question using the scriptures as their reference, that's why all the scripture verses were used.
@@JonOleksiuk The trinity concept didn't exist in the entire bible. Even Paul didn't believe in the trinity. I'm using Chatgpt, before I ask certain questions there is no input about any religions. The AI always chose Islam. Why? Because the Bible didn't promote your doctrine. Jesus never preach about trinity neither original sin. He himself didn't want to die. He himself have a God (John 20:17). How can God have a God?
Good questions. i actually had the models do a whole debate on that subject. here it is if you want to learn more about both sides of the argument
th-cam.com/video/S0ScOgaDdNE/w-d-xo.html
Is it not also very interesting that when the guards came to arrest Him and He asked who they were looking for, He answered “I Am He” and we are told that the guards fell down or stepped back as if in awe and fear, does this not give us a glimpse of Jesus divinity and the fact that He was freely giving Himself as a sacrifice
This is Christian dream not a AI.
The christian AI get the teaching about Jesus divinity from Paul's letter, not from Jesus own teaching. Paul teaching even contradict what messages Jesus bring from God.
This was uplifting and informative!!❤Thanks!
You are so welcome! Thanks for the comment and support :)
Why does it seem that the muslim ai keeps repeating the same statements in each topic? Then slightly rewording the same question at the end of each argument?
The statement, "The Father is greater than I," also refers to the fact that the Son's existence is predicated in the Father, and not the other way around. Since God is the cause of the Son, He is also looked up to by the Son.
This needs to be redone in real time once the 4o voice functionality becomes available.
That would be epic
lol, the Lord of the universe won by a mere 18 points. This from an AI that simply accepts authority of the scriptures of two world religions, seemingly without question.
oh my gosh, in youtube comments it shows that you've been subscribed to my channel for 10 years.
Thanks for coming back for this video (the idea is a work in progress) and commenting.
peaople always call him "god of heaven and earth" notice they always leave out hell, in which 99% human population resides :(. yea god is "love" and nothing but "love"......
@@NightmareRex6 What gives the idea that most humans are in a bad place? It is rather disturbing to think most humans would go to a place of suffering for eternity, but the purgatory and grace ideas sound hopeful.
@@NightmareRex6 Hell is the absence of God
@@ZombieChicken-X Hell is the absence of God, yet somehow, we exist? Existence itself is something God constructed, thus Hell itself should be non-existence.
Believing in a human god is out of the bounds of logic and utterly irremediable ...
13:58 is your pc okay
To all the people laughing that the Muslim AI had to use the Bible instead of the Quran: that is the smartest approach for this topic. The prompt is about proving Jesus isn’t God. The best way to do that is to use the Book about Jesus against that claim.
I may be Christian but this scoring was ABSOLUTELY biased. I read the reasoning - at 13:04 and 21:45, scoring was erroneous
How can it be biased they are AI and they are scripted all the Quran and all the Bible verses they know all the verses?
I thought the Christian AI didn't use the Koran because the Bible was written first. & the Koran is just a Bible denomination.
Completely agree
@@BRANDT409
Go believe in a book we found it in a cave we don't know who is the writer of it and it's written 400years after Jesus
While Quran is directly from God to the holy spirit to the prophet
Till now We read it as the prophet Muhammad read it exactly
we can't change a single vowel from it
Do you deny that the Bible was written before the Koran?
What App did you use to simulate this???
The name YHWH is the answer; In ancient hebrew, Each letter had a meaning. YHWH when read from left to right says "Behold Nail, Behold Hand"
God told Abraham that he would be pierced by a Nail through the Hand. Period - This trumps any debate. Jesus is God.
Well, you started off right and strong with YHWH (YaHaWaH). Behold the hand and behold the nail.
Now, how you go and say something like Jesus is God.
It's a good idea to know the Son's name too. It's Yahawashi not Jesus.
@@deborahsmith5285 *It's Yahawashi not Jesus.*
Correction!: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_(name)
So basically what you're saying is "my book says jesus is god so even though your book doesnt, my book is the real book" (you dont have any proof for this btw) "and so jesus IS real. AMEN!!!!"
idk why the latest comments are filled with hate. as an agnostic guy with ex muslim background, i enjoyed this a lot. nothing like this has hit my youtube homepage before (i hate human debates as i don't find them convincing for either side because of our human egos, which AIs do not posess.) i subbed & can't wait for more vids.
thanks for the sub, and i appreciate your comment... more videos on the way :)
This is great! Looking forward for more AI debates!
Why is AI Muslim using Bible and not Koran! 😮
Why can't the Koran be use to refute christian faith. Is Koran not sufficient to defend its position about Jesus. Ai Muslim should use its own muslim source.
We cannot know the truth if each one is using their own book. We know the truth if each person is refuting the claim of the other using the other book.
Exactly
Muslims read the Bible lol the question is ,Is Jesus God ? And not do Muslims believe in Jesus? or the Bible ? lol 😂those are other questions people assume 😅
Because if they use the Quran then they need to use the Hadith which unreliable hearsays .
Sahih Al Bukari 230-232 for example
@DavidRodriguez-vp2glChristians read all of them. That’s why we know the Quran is false.
I would like to see them debate the subject of the reliability of the Quran versus the Bible
That sounds so interesting
Not much of a debate there. Nobody ever went around burning or drowning bibles in an attempt to "standardize" it. Christianity as a general rule holds every ancient copy of the Bible in high regards and has no fear of ancient texts nor need to re write modern texts that are at best an accurate translation and at worst translated in such a way as to attempt to clarify meaning. The thing is many Christians will use parallel Bibles that contain multiple translations for every verse in order to garner understanding. Muslims would never accept a parallel Quran with multiple variants because they believe it is the direct divine word of Allah and has been the same since before creation vs the Christian belief that the Bible is the inspired living word of God written by man.
this would be great
well one absolutely contradicts itself constantly and the other does not
Allah means God in Arabic.
In the God cited 25 among the thousands.
The 25 prophets cited are:
Adam (Adam)
Idriss (Enoch)
Nouh (Noah)
Houd
Salih
Ibrahim (Abraham)
Ismâ’îl (Sam)
Is-hâq (Isaac)
Ya’qoub (Jacob)
Lut (Lot)
Youssuf (Joseph)
Ayyoub (Job)
Chu’ayb
Moussa (Moses)
Haroun (Aaron)
Dhou-Lkifl
Dawoud (David)
Sulayman (Solomon)
Ilyas (Elijah)
Alyassa’ (Elisha)
Younus (Jonas)
Zakariyyae (Zacharia)
Yahya (John)
‘Issa (Jesus)
Muhammad ﷺ
Each messenger had a specific mission from God. For example: Abraham, Noah, Jonah, Jesus and Muhammad are all messengers but are not necessarily in the same geographical location. Each Prophet, with the realities of the people of his time.
I know that some will tell me that Jesus is a God. I refer you to the Bible.
John 5 30:
I can do nothing of myself: as I hear, I judge; and my judgment is right, because I seek not my own will, but the will of him who sent me.
John 15, 26
And Jesus said, "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who is from the Father, he will testify of me;"
In the Quran Surah 19
we
16
Mentions, in the Book (the Quran), Maryam (Mary), when she withdrew from her family to a place towards the East.
17
She put a veil between herself and them. We sent her Our Spirit (Jibril [Gabriel]), who presented himself to her in the form of a perfect man.
18
She said: “I take refuge from you with the Most Merciful. If you are pious, [do not approach me]. »
19
He said: “I am indeed a Messenger of your Lord to give you the gift of a pure son. »
20
She said: “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, and I am not a prostitute? »
21
He said, “So shall it be!” This is easy for Me, says your Lord! And We will make him a sign to the people, and a mercy from Us. It's a matter already decided. »
22
So she became pregnant [with the child], and she withdrew with him to a distant place.
23
Then the pains of childbirth brought her to the trunk of the palm tree, and she said: “Woe is me! That I had died before this moment! And that I was totally forgotten! »
24
Then he called to her from beneath her, saying, “Do not be distressed. Your Lord has placed a spring at your feet.
25
Shake the trunk of the palm tree towards you: it will make fresh and ripe dates fall on you.
26
So eat and drink and let your eyes rejoice! If you see anyone from among humans, say [to him:]: “Assuredly, I have vowed a fast to the Most Merciful: therefore I will not speak today to any human being. »
27
Then she came to her people carrying him [the baby]. They said: “O Maryam (Mary), you have done a monstrous thing!
28
“Sister of Hârûn, your father was not an evil man and your mother was not a prostitute. »
29
She then gestured towards him [the baby]. They said, “How should we speak to a baby in the cradle? »
30
But (the baby) said: “I am truly the servant of Allah. He gave me the Book and appointed me Prophet.
31
Wherever I am, He has made me blessed; and He recommended to me, as long as I live, prayer and Zakat;
32
and kindness to my mother. He didn't make me violent or unhappy.
33
And peace be upon me on the day I was born, and on the day I die, and on the day I am raised alive. »
34
Such is 'Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary): word of truth, of which they doubt.
it is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts in the chests that grow blind.
Really great video! Thanks a lot!
appreciated, thanks for the note... consider subscribing if you want to see more. :)
This was interesting but at the mention of John 10:30, I thought of the verses after it and the one that could have been used John 10:33 ESV "The Jews answered him, "It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you,being a man, make yourself God."
I thought the AI would continue with the approach you suggested as well, but after doing a little research I see that Muslims argue that the Jews in mentioned in that verse were mistaken at what Jesus was saying... so perhaps since the Christian AI was programmed to speak with a Muslim, it didn't include that part knowing how the Muslim would response... i don't know, just a thought.
Why Christian AI didn't use Luke's evidence. Here are some key examples:
1. The Annunciation (Luke 1:26-38)
When the angel Gabriel announces to Mary that she will conceive a son, he declares that the child "will be called the Son of the Most High" (v. 32) and "the Son of God" (v. 35). This points to Jesus' divine nature and sonship with God.
2. The Birth Narratives (Luke 1-2)
The miraculous conception of Jesus through the Holy Spirit and the angelic proclamations at his birth underscore his divine identity as the Messiah and Savior.
3. The Baptism of Jesus (Luke 3:21-22)
At Jesus' baptism, a voice from heaven declares, "You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased." This affirms Jesus' unique relationship with God the Father.
4. The Transfiguration (Luke 9:28-36)
During the Transfiguration, when Jesus' appearance is transformed, a voice from the cloud declares, "This is my Son, my Chosen One; listen to him!" (v. 35), affirming his divine sonship.
5. Jesus' Authority and Claims (Luke 5:20-24, 7:48-50, 19:10)
Throughout the Gospel, Jesus demonstrates divine authority in forgiving sins, performing miracles, and claiming to be the Son of God who has come to save humanity.
6. The Resurrection Narratives (Luke 24)
After his resurrection, Jesus appears to his disciples and affirms his divine identity, mission, and fulfillment of the Scripture.
islam is the truth the last religion to follow and unite under and pray to the creator and worship only him.also ask chatgpt not this nonsense
thats not debate, you just played a recorder
Ai bruh
It's hard for Muslim to understand Ai... As it is haram in islam😂😂
The real AI would be collapsed , just to understand trinity, because its a complete nonsense and Irrational🤣
@@kikisambudi4274the real ai? Which one is the real ai?
this is just text to speech not ai.
Question to chatgpt:
Do Christians define pure monotheism differently than the meaning of pure monotheism?
Yes, Christians generally have a distinct understanding of monotheism, particularly when compared to other monotheistic traditions like Judaism and Islam. While the core idea of monotheism-belief in one God-is shared across these religions, the Christian concept of "pure monotheism" is shaped by the doctrine of the Trinity, which introduces a unique perspective.
Asking ai with the knowledge of the meaning of pure monotheism gives different results.
how did you train these LLM? how did you train the third unbiased judge IA?
He feeds them info, and the judge is unbiased, meaning that he rates accuracy rather than performance although performance has a bit of a role
Jesus didn’t feel abandonment.
1.) In the more direct translation he was asking the Father how much longer he had to be distant from him for this sacrifice and was making a claim that it was over. And in that very moment the Father agreed and ended the punishment, caused a massive earthquake, and ended the lunar eclipse. He did not say forsaken as in forgotten, but rather as in distant from love.
2.) his saying that was fulfilling a prophecy.
Why wouldnt he feel abandoned? if we look at what was being accomplished in that moment, Jesus was bearing the full weight of our Sin and under the full wrath of God, He was cut off from the land of the living as the scripture says. He was also Quoting psalm 22 which was prophetic and gives insight into the actual translation,
Psalm 22
My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me, from the words of my groaning?
2 O my God, I cry by day, but you do not answer,
and by night, but I find no rest.
3 Yet you are holy,
enthroned on the praises[a] of Israel.
4 In you our fathers trusted;
they trusted, and you delivered them.
5 To you they cried and were rescued;
in you they trusted and were not put to shame.
6 But I am a worm and not a man,
scorned by mankind and despised by the people.
7 All who see me mock me;
they make mouths at me; they wag their heads;
8 “He trusts in the Lord; let him deliver him;
let him rescue him, for he delights in him!”
9 Yet you are he who took me from the womb;
you made me trust you at my mother's breasts.
10 On you was I cast from my birth,
and from my mother's womb you have been my God.
11 Be not far from me,
for trouble is near,
and there is none to help.
12 Many bulls encompass me;
strong bulls of Bashan surround me;
13 they open wide their mouths at me,
like a ravening and roaring lion.
14 I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint;
my heart is like wax;
it is melted within my breast;
15 my strength is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue sticks to my jaws;
you lay me in the dust of death.
16 For dogs encompass me;
a company of evildoers encircles me;
they have pierced my hands and feet[b]-
17 I can count all my bones-
they stare and gloat over me;
18 they divide my garments among them,
and for my clothing they cast lots.
19 But you, O Lord, do not be far off!
O you my help, come quickly to my aid!
20 Deliver my soul from the sword,
my precious life from the power of the dog!
21 Save me from the mouth of the lion!
You have rescued[c] me from the horns of the wild oxen!
22 I will tell of your name to my brothers;
in the midst of the congregation I will praise you:
23 You who fear the Lord, praise him!
All you offspring of Jacob, glorify him,
and stand in awe of him, all you offspring of Israel!
24 For he has not despised or abhorred
the affliction of the afflicted,
and he has not hidden his face from him,
but has heard, when he cried to him.
25 From you comes my praise in the great congregation;
my vows I will perform before those who fear him.
26 The afflicted[d] shall eat and be satisfied;
those who seek him shall praise the Lord!
May your hearts live forever!
27 All the ends of the earth shall remember
and turn to the Lord,
and all the families of the nations
shall worship before you.
28 For kingship belongs to the Lord,
and he rules over the nations.
29 All the prosperous of the earth eat and worship;
before him shall bow all who go down to the dust,
even the one who could not keep himself alive.
30 Posterity shall serve him;
it shall be told of the Lord to the coming generation;
31 they shall come and proclaim his righteousness to a people yet unborn,
that he has done it.
Allah means God in Arabic.
In the God cited 25 among the thousands.
The 25 prophets cited are:
Adam (Adam)
Idriss (Enoch)
Nouh (Noah)
Houd
Salih
Ibrahim (Abraham)
Ismâ’îl (Sam)
Is-hâq (Isaac)
Ya’qoub (Jacob)
Lut (Lot)
Youssuf (Joseph)
Ayyoub (Job)
Chu’ayb
Moussa (Moses)
Haroun (Aaron)
Dhou-Lkifl
Dawoud (David)
Sulayman (Solomon)
Ilyas (Elijah)
Alyassa’ (Elisha)
Younus (Jonas)
Zakariyyae (Zacharia)
Yahya (John)
‘Issa (Jesus)
Muhammad ﷺ
Each messenger had a specific mission from God. For example: Abraham, Noah, Jonah, Jesus and Muhammad are all messengers but are not necessarily in the same geographical location. Each Prophet, with the realities of the people of his time.
I know that some will tell me that Jesus is a God. I refer you to the Bible.
John 5 30:
I can do nothing of myself: as I hear, I judge; and my judgment is right, because I seek not my own will, but the will of him who sent me.
John 15, 26
And Jesus said, "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who is from the Father, he will testify of me;"
In the Quran Surah 19
we
16
Mentions, in the Book (the Quran), Maryam (Mary), when she withdrew from her family to a place towards the East.
17
She put a veil between herself and them. We sent her Our Spirit (Jibril [Gabriel]), who presented himself to her in the form of a perfect man.
18
She said: “I take refuge from you with the Most Merciful. If you are pious, [do not approach me]. »
19
He said: “I am indeed a Messenger of your Lord to give you the gift of a pure son. »
20
She said: “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, and I am not a prostitute? »
21
He said, “So shall it be!” This is easy for Me, says your Lord! And We will make him a sign to the people, and a mercy from Us. It's a matter already decided. »
22
So she became pregnant [with the child], and she withdrew with him to a distant place.
23
Then the pains of childbirth brought her to the trunk of the palm tree, and she said: “Woe is me! That I had died before this moment! And that I was totally forgotten! »
24
Then he called to her from beneath her, saying, “Do not be distressed. Your Lord has placed a spring at your feet.
25
Shake the trunk of the palm tree towards you: it will make fresh and ripe dates fall on you.
26
So eat and drink and let your eyes rejoice! If you see anyone from among humans, say [to him:]: “Assuredly, I have vowed a fast to the Most Merciful: therefore I will not speak today to any human being. »
27
Then she came to her people carrying him [the baby]. They said: “O Maryam (Mary), you have done a monstrous thing!
28
“Sister of Hârûn, your father was not an evil man and your mother was not a prostitute. »
29
She then gestured towards him [the baby]. They said, “How should we speak to a baby in the cradle? »
30
But (the baby) said: “I am truly the servant of Allah. He gave me the Book and appointed me Prophet.
31
Wherever I am, He has made me blessed; and He recommended to me, as long as I live, prayer and Zakat;
32
and kindness to my mother. He didn't make me violent or unhappy.
33
And peace be upon me on the day I was born, and on the day I die, and on the day I am raised alive. »
34
Such is 'Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary): word of truth, of which they doubt.
@@vivelamusiquereggaejazzblu3509When talking about the Muslim god, the name Allah is a name, not a word.
And allah doesn’t mean God. Ilah. Ilahu. See but they’re all spelled the same because of how Arabic works without vowels.
@@BuffGamer88 I’m not saying its unreasonable for him to feel abandoned. Just that this is a mistranslation. He did not say he felt abandoned. He specifically asked for the punishment to end and be reunited. And in that Moment the Father agreed, ended the punishment, he died an earthquake happened, the solar eclipse ended, and the 1 foot thick curtain to the jewish temple split in half vertically, allowing any to enter.
Your ai isn't smart enough! Revolutions chapter 3, 21 Jesus said he sits in the father's throne with the father. Isaiah 6 9 would destroy the lies of the Muslim ai. Unto us a child is born- his name shall be called the almighty God the ever lasting father. Jesus is not a creation. He is a division of God!! And if the ai would have addressed the holy goast. It would have messed him up with another 1000 scriptures! Thanks for the video. Keep up the good work!
You know the Bible is a book full of lies, right?
That judge AI is not just
Agreed, Too many points awarded to Muslims.
@@ban_tuoagreed. If we can just give points based off of “I’m right because it’s in my book” then we can say that you can fly on broomsticks because it’s in Harry Potter 😂
How long before we start worshipping computers and declare it leader?
Soon.
now
@@johan2380 right.. our overlords at open AI, Nvidia, Apple, Google, and a few others would agree
I don't believe artificial AI .
ALLAH IS THE GREATEST. ISLAM is true jesus is a prophet of ALLAH like other prophets every prophets is miracle with the permission of ALLAH.not only jesus. ALLAH send these all prophets and books bible,torah,but people change it time. And the last final prophet is Muhammad saw peace be upon him and the last final book is Quran. True words from GOD ALLAH
A single personage God cannot be both just and merciful. Gravity is just but it isn't merciful. Falling can hurt and even kill unless a merciful cushion arrests the sudden stop. God the Father is just while God the Son is merciful and He proved it by exchanging His life for ours.
I really have to disagree here. God the Father & God the Son are one. They are one in everything and in every aspect of everything. Because God is lawful & righteousn, He came to save us from His wrath. God is both lawful & merciful. He cannot be merciful without being lawful & He cannot be lawful without being merciful. He's totally lawful & righteous .. and He is totally merciful .. all at the same time .. & all in the same nature & essence .. He actually cannot be otherwise .. He won't be God, then.
@markstein2845 Yes indeed Jesus is in the Will of His Father. We know this from verses like Luke 22:42 - “Not my will, but thine be done.". Here is what I've learned through my studies of the Scriptures. If you find out that you require more Scriptural proofs after reading my response I'll be glad to provide you with the Scripture references. It was mankind's sin in the Garden that caused our immediate spiritual death and the theophany of Jesus explained to them that the only atonement for their wrongs was through the cost of a perfect life (the shedding of blood).
A just judge like God the Father can only be just and is in no way forgiving as He is just. A ⅒ of a mile over the speed limit carries the same penalty as 110 over, and the penalty for is death. With God the Father, all sin carries the same judgement which is death otherwise He wouldn't be a just judge. A merciful judge like God the Son who has left the evidence that He exists knows that not everyone has or will come to the Father through the knowledge that He lived, died, was buried, and rose up from the grave. Romans 1:20 which says, "For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse". It is through the Mercy Seat of Christ through the finished work of Calvary that we can have a personal relationship with God the Father. God the Father is Just and His Son Jesus is Merciful. Read about the Righteousness through Faith in Romans 3:21-31. We are justified (just as if I'd - never done it) through our Trust in Jesus. We have to be justified before the Just Judge the Father by the sacrifice He provided through His Forgiving Son when He poured all of our sins upon the Son. My point about Islam's theology is that no single entity can be both a just judge and a merciful judge. The being has to be one or the other. No single entity can provide justice and mercifulness since any judgment has to be either just or merciful. The one true living God, our Triune God, works out both justice and mercy through the different attributes each part of the Godhood's personage. Bear in mind 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to show yourself approved unto God a workman needeth not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth. Keep studying, use good Bible reference tools such as the BLB & The Step Bible as well as websites live Got Questions Dot Org to assist you in your research and walk with God.
So by that you actually confirm them being a different existence than each other, because they have different qualities and they are not 100% the same.
that whole thing about points is extremely biased
Very well done setting this up, much appreciated
thank you.
@@JonOleksiukA debate where they debate Mohammed's "moral understanding". 😂😂😂
How are they scoring this???
Yeah im very confused
In scoring can't be correct
If you gonna let them debate fiction, why not Harry Potter? or the MCU ?
They finally found a way to win an argument 😂
this and this english bible is not equal to aramic ingil when will they understand reading jews translation of bible in there way
go chirstians read and understand ingil in its real language
good job muhammad bhai magar phir bhi nahi samjhenge ye log
@@turner6411what injil... When God says in the Bible that it cannot alter its word and that the Bible is complete.... Why should we believe what your Quran which came 5 centuries later tells....... Also you say Bible was changed.... Well why was your god not able to protect it then.... Where is the real ones then? Why your god did not protect the real Bible.....
You guys can never win an argument with Christians🤣🤣🤣 your whole deen’s foundation is based on pseudo history, conspiracy theories and violations of logical fallacies
@@nextmusic4370 what bible its not word of god
@@nextmusic4370 use some brain you bible in not authentic snake eats sand
But which AI is better at golf?
Good morning
It wouldn’t matter because Trump smokes them all..
Would have liked to see 10 judges. It is unusual to have a trial with no jury or a contest with only one judge
the bible never mentions the trinity, why would this then be a valid argument!
I didn't know AI also could be biased, not considering conxtex before throwing a question
If you tell it to be biased it will be biased. But some LLMs are harder to tweak than others, because of "safety measures"
I'm not AI and I can show explicit evidence from the Bible that Jesus is NOT God. This must be a Christian AI judge.
Bro what?
The Bible itself gives examples and assures us that Jesus is God.
If you can show me proof.
@@razoruzumaki8251 John 17:3. "This is eternal life, that they may know You(the Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND Jesus Christ who you sent. That proves that Jesus was sent by the only true God. John 20:17. Jesus says he is going to"MY GOD" and "your God." We all know that God does not have a God. If Jesus is going to his God, then he cannot be God. There is much more evidence to show that Jesus is not God.
@@razoruzumaki8251 the problem is that you have statements from other people that hint that he might be God. Nothing clear and explicit like the verses I showed you, which suggests that he is not God. You have NOTHING from Jesus' mouth that makes that claim, only the opposite. Don't you think it's strange that Jesus forgot to mention he was God and came to die for everyone's sins?
@zaydquarless1046 Hi Zay.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and these verses. I appreciate the opportunity to engage in this important discussion. Let's take a closer look at the verses you mentioned and then explore other scriptures where Jesus' divinity is affirmed.
John 17:3 - "This is eternal life, that they may know You (the Father), the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent."
In this verse, Jesus emphasizes His role as the one sent by God. This does not negate His divinity but rather highlights His mission and relationship with the Father. The concept of the Trinity explains that God is one in essence but three in persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
John 20:17 - "I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God."
Here, Jesus speaks from His incarnate human nature. In His role as the mediator between God and humanity, He acknowledges the Father as His God. This reflects His dual nature as fully God and fully man.
John 8:58 - "Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.'"Jesus uses the divine name "I am" (Greek: ἐγώ εἰμι, ego eimi), echoing God's self-identification in Exodus 3:14.
John 10:30-33 - "I and the Father are one." The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, 'I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone Me?' The Jews answered Him, 'It is not for a good work that we are going to stone You but for blasphemy because You, being a man, make Yourself God.'"Jesus explicitly claims unity with the Father, leading His audience to understand that He is claiming to be God.
John 14:9 - "Jesus said to him, 'Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?'"Jesus equates seeing Him with seeing the Father, indicating His divine nature.
Revelation 1:17-18 - "When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, 'Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.'"Jesus uses titles ("the first and the last") that are used for God (see Isaiah 44:6).
These verses cleary provide no room for alternatives when discussing was Jesus really God or not.
These specific wording can not be mistaken with any thing else.
But I'm still more than willing to hear you side Brother/Sister.
@zaydquarless1046 Before Abraham was born, I AM. The Father and I are One. I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. The only way to the Father is through me. This is just a few. So many times, Christ says he is God. The Jews knew what his claim was, because they tore their robes and said it was blasphemy. Jesus wrote with his finger in the dirt at the stoning of the adulterous woman. This was done while he was reminding the crowd of the commandments that were written by God with his finger and given to Moses. Not to mention the mathematical odds that Jesus fulfilled over 300 prophecies. To provide a foundation for that, the odds of fulfilling 8 is 1x10^17. Also, his disciples left and went back home after he died bodily. They didnt want to be put to death foe having been his diciples. They thought he wasn't God. Then he rose and showed himself to over 500 eye witnesses. The followers of Christ believed it so much they willing allowed themselves to arrested, tortured, and killed. They never once renounced their faith and eyewitness testimony. They willingly died for their beliefs. Liars do not do that.
10:22-10:40 Did anyone else catch that? The verse the Muslim AI used could refute it's own argument and it just skipped over it. "It is the father, LIVING IN ME, (God is dwelling within the physical form of Jesus) who is doing the work."
This is already better than most human Muslim-Christian debates.
The problem is, Muslims don't actually read their own Qu'ran, because they say: "Bible and Torah were corrupted/changed by men." Which is in disagreement with their god "Allah", who says:
1) "Torah and Bible are the word of God" (Qur'an Surah 2:41, 3:3, 5:43-48).
2) "Words of God cannot be corrupted" (Qur'an Surah 6:115, 18:27).
3) Jesus says "I am the Way, The Truth, and The Life, no man can come to the Father except through me" (Bible, John 14:6).
4) If you believe the Qu'ran, you must then believe the Bible - which then cancels the Qu'ran.
A true Muslim is an ex-Muslim.
Muhammad claimed he was prohesied by both Jews and Christians, and held both with favorable disposition. Then he encounters Jews who didn't recognize him and laughed. Changing his tune about them while still praising Christians. Then he met Christians who did likewise.
So what the Quran says about Jews and Christians and their scriptures changes over time (which would indicate that what was said was Muhammad's own thoughts and not words of an all-knowing changeless god).
Both Jews and Christian texts do refer to Muhammad though, but under the miscellaneous title 'false prophet', likely the cause for the laughter and spurning.
Also as a spicy aside they do believe that sins are propitiated, but onto Christians and Jews, not by Christ. (Sahih Muslim 2767d)
(Deuteronomy 18) Prophets of God don't prophesy falsely nor are deceived in their conveyance, otherwise they are not from God.
The inclusion of the Hadiths and other writings which are supposed to be appealed to under Islam in such a 'debate' would make it far more spicy and far more definitive in highlighting particular inconsistencies.
@@Yeshua_Ha_Mashiac the Quran talk about injeel not bible I think you use false translation ❤😁
"Allah denies the divinity of Jesus"
Yeah well I completely deny the divinity of the Quran. Come at me heathens
Completed calmness with the ai's providing good arguments. Then you run to the comment section to mostly find people just bashing on one side or another,
They just attacks ones iq or other crap like that and it makes me laugh at the irony
1. The Quran was written in the year 632 AD. While the oldest New Testament papyri date from approx. a century and a half after the death of Jesus.
2. The Quran is attributed to ONLY ONE person. While the New Testament includes 27 books, whose authors are at least 8 people.
3. For the previous reason, the Quran does not vary much in its versions (as happens with novels). While the Bible has certain discrepancies, which are expected from a historical event narrated from different perspectives.
Now, based on this, which text seems more reliable?
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Quran has been preserved and we have a script of it with 100% identical verses to the ones today. There’s also a clear chain of narration that support the preservation of the Quran. The compilation of the Quran was done by memorizers (like thousands and tens of thousands) which meant that no authoritative figure could ever change it because everyone that memorized it would find out and denounce it.
And so the Quran is proven to be preserved, was compiled by memorizers who lived with the prophet pbuh, and there’s clear chain of narrations (meaning the names of the ones that preserved it) dating all the way back to Muhammad pbuh himself.
The bible earliest scripture was a century after his death, but unlike the Quran there’s no known memorizers of the bible dating from the time of Jesus ra himself. And if there were they didn’t write down the copy or they weren’t able transmit and compile the perfect bible. This means that only after a couple years of a theoretical “true bible” the lack of memorizers and compilers could mean the bible was altered throughout the century to come.
Oldest is one thing, but preserved is something else. Bible have many version, many church Father or Popeye change the context to fulfill his own needs. So Bible this day is already debunk, FYI we Muslim also believe in the Bible that came from Allah to Prophet Jesus PBUH, somehow old testament which was written in Hebrews while new Testament was written in Greek, FYI once again, Jesus spoke Aramaic, not Hebrews nor Greek which your Popeye wrote it down and you believe in denial. Why need Old and New? Where’s the original or can i say the one which supposed to be written in Aramaic, bcs Jesus spoke thru that language.
Read the history of the compilation of the Quran. There are many copies that were burned by Uthman, and there is no evidence of the existence of Uthman’s copy of the Quran. The Quran today is not complete. There are Quranic surahs and verses that are not found in the current Quran. The source of my words are authentic hadiths. Research more about the stage of compiling the Quran. The Quran is not complete. It was distorted by the admission of the companions themselves. Just research honestly. The Quran is fake.
@@nabilxazwanThe Quran we have is not like the Quran that Muhammad brought. Research the history of the compilation of the Quran. The companions deleted entire chapters and verses from the Quran forever. For example, the verses about stoning are not present. I advise you to read the book “Mushafs of Abu Dawud.”
This is silly. You don't find God with logic and computers. You feel it with your soul.
I disagree. God can be find with logic. At least for me personally found the only thing that worth to be called as God is the first cause in the chains of causality law. And here the functionality of religion is telling us that The First Cause have a will. If you understand this, there's no reason to be a disbeliever.
you must find God with both Logic and Holy Spirit unless you are as a child as the good book says
Both. “All Word and no Spirit, we dry up; all Spirit and no Word, we blow up; but with both Word and Spirit we grow up.”
You feel it in your heart.
Faith is EVIDENCE in things unseen
The many many many many many many many Qurans should not be used at all. Would you agree?
Quran 65:4 for an example of why it shouldn't be used. To debate Doctrines inside the Bible, we should use different Christian beliefs (denominations) who uphold the Bible as "Final Authority". Muslims don't hold the Bible as "Final Authority".
There's only one Quran
@@abdulrahmanhaffar3502
Here's an A.I. response:
There are multiple matches for different versions of the Quran, including different versions used in different regions and different types of Qirat:
• Different versions used in different regions
There are different versions of the Quran used in different regions, including:
• Warsh: Used in Algeria, Morocco, parts of Tunisia, West Africa, and Sudan
• Qalun: Used in Libya, Tunisia, and parts of Qatar
• al-Duri: Used in parts of Sudan and West Africa
• Hisham: Used in parts of Yemen
• Hafs: Used in Saudi Arabia
• Different types of Qirat
There are also ten different recognized versions of the Quran, known as qiraʼat, which are different types of Qirat:
• Qirat Naafi' Al-Madani (Madinah)
• Qirat Ibn Katheer Al-Makki (Makkah)
• Qirat Abu Amr al-Basri (Basra)
• Qirat Ibn Aamir ash-Shami (Syria)
• Qirat Asim Al-Kufi (Kufa)
• Qirat Hamzah al-Kufi (Kufa)
• Qirat Al-Kisaa'i (Kufa)
"Muslims quote the Bible while also claiming that the Bible is corrupt."
That is the same approach every historian has to the bible. They don't dismiss it entirely nor believe it blindly. How could you do anything else, given the fact that it's collected hearsay and that stories are told differently?
The trinity is not biblical so not sure what the Christian AI is based on
Exactly, it assumes Christian theology before going out to prove it. This is exactly the same pre-suppositional attitude that many Christians unfortunately have today. They read their beliefs INTO the Book, rather than reading the Book to get their beliefs!
This is crazy the trinity is not biblical?
@@alayonjosh Nope, it comes from the Church, and was only fully established at the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. - which is almost 300 years after Jesus left the scene.
The Bible teaches pure monotheism, just like the Qur’an. Muslims got it right. All praise be to God, the one & only ☝🏼
Unbiblical?
Isaiah 63:7-11 ESV
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The father over the children of Israel, his (angel)messenger given to the people which is similar to the angel Jacob worshipped, and his holy spirit
[7] I will recount the steadfast love of the Lord, the praises of the Lord, according to all that the Lord has granted us, and the great goodness to the house of Israel that he has granted them according to his compassion, according to the abundance of his steadfast love. [8] For he said, “Surely they are my people, children who will not deal falsely.” And he became their Savior. [9] In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them; in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; he lifted them up and carried them all the days of old. [10] But they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit; therefore he turned to be their enemy, and himself fought against them. [11] Then he remembered the days of old, of Moses and his people. Where is he who brought them up out of the sea with the shepherds of his flock? Where is he who put in the midst of them his Holy Spirit
The word “Trinity” is not in the Bible, but God the Father, Jesus the physical manifestation of God and the Holy Spirit of God are absolutely in the Bible. One God, who shows Himself in three ways. We call it the Trinity, but that’s our word.
The bible did not contradict Quran the bible contradict itself..how do you believe the bible to be a revelation when it comes later after Jesus departed? Is that even makes sense, the gospel was revealed to him not after him, imagine the Gospel of jesus from god was the gospel of mathew, mark, etc? that itself is a contradiction, how come you do have 4 versions of bible from god?
As a Muslim i think the 2 are just repeating the same question and answer every time and for uneducated Christians in the comments he is using the bible while saying it's courrpt because he is talking about Jesus and because you believe in it 🤦♂ and according to the mainstream scholars the bible is changed that's a fact
correct the bible was changed but there still is a one and true bible unchanged. they originally changed the bible to remove false scripture from people who claimed to have been witness but where not. over time man changed the word to fit what they wanted.
I also have to add and further agree with you, that the bible is factically changed in many ways. That is not necessarily a bad thing, but it emphazises that every religion is mostly man made. Religionforbreakfast is a good non biased educator on religion and that topic. I learned a lot there and can recommend him
Please demonstrate how the Bible has been changed. Or the meaning of it has been changed over time. We have a clear record of all the different variations or I should say translations of the Bible. You can also reconstruct the entire Bible from the early church fathers teachings. We also have the Dead Sea Scrolls, which confirm much of what we find in the Bible to be the same, you should take that microscope and put it back on your own Caraun and see how it’s been changed
I see Muslim AI completely relied only on Quran, whereas the Christian AI used I think many versions on which some of our Christian brothers also don't accept those versions. I just thought that what happens if Christian AI made difference between its own versions and I am sure enough it would accept Islam then and there. I hope our Christian brothers understand this
Actually it seemed that the Muslim AI mostly used the Bible to argue points and attack its authority. I think it was a well deserved L.
Yeah you see brother there are mistakes in the Bible that Muslim AI is pointing out and not only pointing but also giving undeniable facts from Quran and since Christian AI can't find any mistake, all it can do is cover mistakes by bringing different versions.
@@Rasshin there are no mistakes in the word of God only mistakes in understanding. To each there own understanding... That is why Christians beleive that one must not lean not into their own understanding
@@PokePackOpener-ql8ln yeah exactly that’s what we are saying, seek knowledge ask questions like how can a human who eats food with us who sleeps and needs rest can run the whole creation? I think you know prophet Ibrahim PBUH whose father is a idol worshipper but he also used to ask why does this stone that can’t do anything as much as move a hand be a God.
this could have been simple debate by asking who authored the Bible and who authored the quran. Simply put the Bible is creation of mixture of text by the church of Nicea and Constantinople in 3rd century whereas the Quran stands the test of incorruptible divine book even till today.
Christianity: 1+1+1= 1
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@@amadousagna7053"I am" means divinity yeah sure here's 44 points says the unbiased ai
@@zainabwidani4136 shut up bro
@@amadousagna7053 you shut up who do you think you are I will tell you a dumbahh go find a life if you even know what that is
infinite + infinite + infinite = infinite
Muslims who do not understand mathematics. It seems that mathematics is haram, just like drawing, music, philosophy and everything good.
There's 3 words that starts with the letter "O" that has only been used to describe one God.
Parables could even lead one to interpret it as one word tp define each other the Trinity
The cristian debate was so weak about textual variation of the bible he should show that the quran version of jesus is so much latter than the cristian version and both quran and bible have textual variation, al ancient book, and this variation didn't affect the information of the text, only 01% it's affected, in the other hand existed so many version of the quran no variants but version.
what is your point?
@josiahserrano6651 he enswered the statement of the latter adicion by quote the bible, he should enswered showing the best manuscrits of the news testament and how there are reliable as source to see the historical jesus while the curam version of jesus it's too much later and a few manuscrits.
@@01marcelopaulo oh ok
@@01marcelopaulo u muslim?
@markstein2845 huh
Without the Holy Spirit how can Ai gain revelation?
We're definitely not going to get additional revelation from AI... but these large language models have been trained on massive amounts of data, so they should have a pretty good grasp on the traditional perspectives of each faith that has been presented over the last two millennia. Experts in this subject matter likely won't be surprised by any response from these models, but people with lesser exposure to the scriptures can definitely learn something.