Shouldn't the construction company have to pull permits also. Where did the state think they were gonna get the water to fill the tanks that they were building
Right!!?? Ant the state inspectors for the project didn't question where the water came from and where it was going AFTER the water test was complete?? We are all not so ignorant!!
So what happened to the water when they were through testing the tanks? I can just about guarantee that they didn't just dump it out on the ground because that would be a bigger story than this. So very likely it went right back into the ground and into the Aquifer it came from.
Good one Ken🤙🏽☮️ yup you nailed it...Poland Springs water, coca cola, Pepsi, the list is hurtfully endless. Water thieves even on Maui for 100+ years🤙🏽💖🏝😢 and when you think of all the waste of precious water millions of gallons millions upon millions that are used for theme parks and golf courses in rich people resorts.....just so distressing. And the water regarded for human consumption is nothing short of poison.
Problem with all this is the Water aquifer isn't only under his Property and it doesn't only affect his property. It affects the whole surrounding area and every Ranch or homestead within Miles of his Ranch. They suck it dry and everyone's Wells will run dry and be useless not to mention dropping the water table quickly like that can cause safety issues with land splitting wide open.
The last time I checked land never floated on water. Water doesn't (belong) to anyone. They may claim it but that's no different then this rancher selling access to it. What it all boils down to is the state is pissed they didn't get thousands of dollars for something they claim but don't oun.
*Slobbering, shaking, heart beating so hard you could see his shirt pumping, smirking slightly, etc...* *If this was a lie detector test it would have blown the machine up.*
Everybody seems to have sidestepped the really crucial issue here. WHAT are they going to do with the 6 million gallons of water already in the tanks, now that they have been "tested"? WHAT was the purpose that the tanks were built for in the first place? WHO paid for the tanks to built?
Alcohol distillation lowers the water table in Iowa for mandated gasahol subsidies to farmers, nothing new about government sale of resources to industry
@@randywise5241 "Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time" was around loooong time before even MY time, nevermind GenX and that was a gall dang loooong time ago. LoL
I thought the most interesting part was that the state knew about and permitted the construction a mere 5mi away. The state knew what would be required for construction and use once complete. Where did the state think the water was going to come from? Money for the permit was always going to make the same water available for construction.
Oversite? Illegal and got caught. Didn’t say how much he received in $$$ for the water. He is not being picked on. He’s actually being given special treatment. He should be charged with a crime.
Axis losing millions of gallons to foreign countries. It’s illegal to grow alfalfa in Saudi Arabia so they’re doing in the desert of AZ with NO RESTRICTIONS on amounts pumped!! Thanks Hobbs.
find some new podcast trash to regurgitate those farms were shut down awhile ago and what exactly does Hobbs have to do with anything those water rights laws have been in place for decades and still are but hey at least you got some thumbs up
@@marknicolich5789 it looks like it JUST was reported on back in October and November of 2023 and the Saudi farms shipped the alfalfa back to Saudi since 2015. That is pretty recent for something so blatantly, in-your-face-America aggravating and shouldn't be forgotten for a second unless you, too, think man-dress boy in Saudi Arabia is a pretty great guy, too, and doing wonderful things. The Saudi company, Fondomonte, does own 10,000 acres outright versus the leased land that Hobbs is reversing the decision made by a prior governor - opening the state up to a law suit. This is backup water for Tucson and Phoenix. The laws better catch up with the reality or water misuse and theft is only going to increase. Meter all of the wells and plug them as punishment for abuse. Edit: You can monitor well production from a distance with the new-fanged technology - ask any pumper who lost their well-paid, cherry job to it being centralized at the office and done by those who knew or learned Python in anticipation.
I mean Los Lunas just tripled their contract with Niagra bottling company despite huge community outcry. Politicians dgaf about the community they serve - its all money.
The King ranch has been in business since 1917, and the owner didn't know anything about the water usage rules he was violating? Come on, Mr. King. Really? It appears to be a case of "anything is for sale for the right price".
Hes well aware of all water permits & legal water usage & they called it an oversight?? I call bullshi*!! Hes a liar & a thief!!! Sounds like there's protection in place for Mr cattle barron!Barron!! Look the other way for the haves & screw the have nots!!
The question that needs to be asked and answered is IF BEFORE the pumping of this water was done AND the land owner AND Construction company ASKED for a permit WOULD it have been granted???
@@d-rot wrong, the LAND OWNER also owns the water UNDER his land. It's the INTRUSIVE GOVERNMENT who's regulations that have encroached upon his rights that is the problem. Hence my question ❓
@@d-rotright, because who but the state would know about the construction project and considered the impact on the local environment. Probably even including water and other stuff too. 😆 the state just wants their cut of the money.
You know that only the amount of water taken is equivalent to 6 1 acre-inch rains over 35 acres. New Mexico saved millions of gallons by not letting him irrigate all year. It is a tremendous penalty to King and Karen and a massive boost to the aquifer she is concerned about. Doers always have a target on their back.
@@greatplainsman3662 You're missing the point. Thirty-five acres is nothing ... he may even gain benefit for leaving the field fallow for a year. If the water sold was only enough to irrigate 35 acres for one year, they are really winding themselves up to a ridiculous degree over almost nothing.
How many gallons of water dose it take to irrigate 35 acres for two years??? Could it be equal to the amount he sold? Or maybe even more then that in a hard year. Plus, that is 35 acres of land not producing any income for two years, or hay for his cattle. Witch means out of pocket expense or down sizing hid heard. Maybe learn a little bit about ranching and what it cost to raise one from impregnation to action before bitching about losing the usage of 35 acre’s of farm land for two years is a small price for the offense.
This happens around EVERY oil field. The drilling companies buy water from random "water haulers" without questioning about where the water came from, those water haulers will steal water from anywhere they can get it.
Once the contractor is finished testing the tanks for leaks, why couldn’t they then return the water back into the water supply or back to the rancher for irrigation??? Just testing a clean tank for leaks wouldn’t contaminate the water at all.
@davidwang4364 18 million gallons is 2,406,250 cubic feet, if you had a building 100 feet long and 100 feet wide of unlimited height, that amount of water would fill it up 240 feet high- or to put it another way- the height of a 24 story building that size, suddenly when put into a VISUAL form it is a lot more significant than the number looks on paper.
@cjaneAlaska No, in THE words he violated the terms of the permit, negatively affecting everyone else who relies on that water that their WELLS tap into. So what happens to the home owner when their well goes dry and they spent thousands having it drilled deeper only to find there's no water there either? Now they have a house they cant sell all because one yahoo with connections to the governor willfully violated his permit that gave him a fair amount of water usage so there's water for other people, but he decided "screw the neighbors I'm cashing in!"
@@mchrysogelos7623 If you say so. That is what our ranch did. We lost our well water in the 70s drought due to another farmer putting in a deeper well. My stepdad put in a deeper well so we could have water. Call it what you want but it’s been done a lot lately.
Rev. 02. The tankers continue to role, there are six. They are filling from the same Volunteer Fire Department hydrant, located in Santa Fe County. The tankers are parked behind a motel in Torrance County. All 6, haul all day long every day except on Saturdays and Sundays. I contacted the Santa Fe county sheriffs' office, they said, they are allowed to pump it out, for use on municipal projects. Not sure what project they're talking about.
@billferner6741 you don't get it. Water! It comes from the ground! Oil, it comes from the ground. Is there some kinda secret magic that keeps them separated underground? 🤡
OMG... and seeing the thumbnail I thought someone was illegally dumping toxic waste.... Hard for me in New York to imagine such severe issues with water. Pollution, yes.....
@@harryballsacky I'm aware of that. I'm over near Conesus/Hemlock. I was poking at them for getting their shorts in a twist over a few truckloads of water, when in some years we have standing water in our lawns all summer.... Seeing the thumbnail with an unlabelled tanker, it gives the initial impression that someone was dumping nasty stuff.....
Rev. 03. The tankers continue to role, there are now eight tankers hauling water Monday-Friday out of Santa Fe County. They are filling from the Volunteer Fire Department hydrant, and the community water source in Edgewood also located in Santa Fe County. The tankers are parked behind a motel in Moriarty, located in Torrance County. I contacted the Santa Fe county sheriffs' office, they said, the fire department in Edgewood sometimes give permission to take water for use on municipal projects. I've talked with locals about wells drying up around here, residents don't know what project they're talking about. It was related to me by a County Worker that they are selling it, to whom I do not know.
The state approved the construction. Including the water requirements during construction and operation. That water will be used. Period. The only question now is how much the state will profit since they shut him down to keep it for themselves.
Former AZ Congressman Sam Steiger, who had a TV show until his stroke, always quoted "Whiskey if for drinking, water is for fighting." This is classic, the land owner is getting punished, NOT THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY? Mr. King should sue that company.
He sold 6 million gallons of water and he claims he had no idea he was doing anything wrong?! The guy is only irrigating 35 acres of pasture off that well, he's either lying or he's a congenital idiot. He should be fined and be required to provide third-party water to any residents nearby whose wells dry up. What a jerk.
6 million gallons is 18 acre-feet. That's about the same amount four acres of alfalfa would consumptively use in one year. Not a huge amount of water when compared to what this well likely normally extracts from the water table in a year. If the water was discharged on the ground after tank testing some of it may have found its way back to the water table. I agree the State Engineer needs to follow the law but the magnitude of this infraction is not being communicated when the presenters of this story provide no context to the number thrown out.
The Johnstown area. The northern pickaway county rickenbacker area. There are many small towns and rural areas being destroyed by county and government greed in Ohio.
How can I give you my email or something like privately so I don't have to put it on here and we can communicate that way I'm just really want to know what you what you got like I've never heard anything about it
Question now is what happens to all that water once the construction company no longer needs it, when it has to empty those holding tanks... do they just let it drain out onto the ground?
Kings genius plan works out perfectly. He’s not allowed to pump for one year but now will use that sold water to water crops during the one yr ban I’d say.
That water is contaminated after its test purposes. The state will put the shaft to him if he tries to use it for irrigation purposes. Definitely ruin the local water table s.
35 acre irrigation penalty. 😂. Even being generous with what you can profit per acre, that’s a pittance compared to what he sold the water for. $$$$$$$$$
All the people who think they can just dump that water back in the aquifer to be used by homeowners for their water wouldn’t say that if they lived there. Those construction areas are filthy and all those steel bin sheets are coated with oil. You drink that.
Nonsense. The water could not be pumped back into the ground and the farm doesn't have above ground storage for that amount of water. You are making comments based on facts not in evidence.
Of course they did! Good grief. Potentially contaminated water with metals and chemicals put back on crops for consumption. That makes so much sense. Not how it works
@@fposmith What gives you the idea that the tanks were oily? They were new and being tested for leaks prior to filling. You are just making stuff up with no factual basis.
The water used to hydro test the tanks could be reclaimed after testing and trucked back to the farms for irrigation. It doesn’t make what they did right, but the water doesn’t have to be lost.
If the water is used for testing only I'm sure it could be used for its intended purpose after. Have it tested and treated if necessary and return it to the aquifer through percolation or trucked back to the farm.
❤❤❤ WOW, as always, observation is keen. One lady potentially stopped a major overhaul business violation, which could of been going anywhere, even INTO Mexico. Just more greed❤❤❤
The state water engineer was super weird and tight lipped on camera. Like he was choosing his words very carefully and intentionally not giving more details. My bet is that if the ranch had simply applied for the permit it would have been granted. The water sale might not have been quite as lucrative but it still would have gone through. I suspect that is what the engineer is not saying. 6million gallons sounds like a lot, but by the napkin math at the end it is irrigation water for less than half of that 35 acre penalty, so what, 15 acres of crop worth of water? It matters but this is not that big of a deal on the scale of the whole area.
I have heard more than once in my life said, Ignorance is no excuse to the law. I noticed there was no mention of how much money he had received for the unlawful transaction. Maybe a good penalty would be to find out how much, then he having to forfeit that amount.
@@janiewilliams48 They said 54 million gallons was transferred. He was penalized 14 million gallons and could not Irrigate his crops for one year. My question is, what are the crops used for? Cattle feed or human consumption? Ether was it sounds like people are the ones paying the price. Thanks for your comment 👍👍
So what your saying is, the government didn't get their cut of the money. As for the water, just use it for watering when you remove it from the tanks. Problem solved.
Watched a TV program years ago where a Truck Driver had some sort of blood cancer and had only months to live he said he would haul some used chemicals from a chrome plating business and get out on dirt roads and open the valves and drive around until truck was empty.
It was the Love canal disaster near Niagara Falls NY. The Hooker Chemical co. dumped 22.000 tons of chemical biproducts on the roads, they had their drivers do it on rainy nights, so no one suspected it,
Maybe I missed it but I didn't notice how much Mr. King charged the construction contractor for 14 million gallons of water. His having to forfeit use of an equivalent amount of water for his own use was a just decision - I'm sure there will be fines or penalties besides. I can't really believe that anyone as involved with the permitting process and monitoring of his irrigation wells didn't realize that selling it was very questionable and possibly illegal. The amount of money he collected from the contractor would be telling.
If the water is just being used to test a new tank... It can be returned to the land, used for irrigation and watering livestock. The tank can store it until it is to be used or it can even be returned to the well. A new tank won't have contaminated the water.
This isn't a Yeti 64 oz. cooler. Million gallon tanks are site built of very large sheets of METAL . Very large sheets of METAL are produced by rolling metal between rollers coated in ..........oil. You think maybe the water was to test the tanks,clean the tanks, test and clean the piping, pump and valve systems? This reporter has a Buford T. Justis stranglehold on this water "selling" scheme.
If the state engineer has authority over NM surface water, than he should be jailed or at least embarrassed for the negligence of the USFS, BLM, Sanish land grants, and reservations for having the river banks, acequias, lakes, flow paths and sources of the hydrological cycle constricted, diverted, over grown with invasive species, covered in fences, garbage and dead fuel tonnage, or completely fenced off in violation of open streams act and maritime law it's absolutely pathetic how NM treats its most precious recourse, just like it treats it children, expendable.
He'll probably get a disaster paycheck for no crops. They do it down texas as they lease their property to oil production then move the family to Montana and play cowboy.
Makes you wonder if he'd have applied for a permit would he have gotten it and if so that would have made it about nothing but the money. But this way they can say it was illegal because he didn't get the permit. He's screwed either way.
I think we are getting to the point where we will have no choice but to build Desalination plants all along the coast to transport water. If we can do that with oil, then we can do that with water
Humans not working 24/7 on converting Sea/salt water to drinking water is a good indication of our imbedded grazing attitude is still very much incharge of us. Of all the tech we have created that should have always been priority #1. I saw Bill Gates demonstrating drinking water from feces, we can do much better. That is sick people wasting time resources and money, no if's and's or but's.
right.... desal is VERY energy intensive, on the order of smelting aluminum... where does that energy come from and would you pay $5 a gallon for water? do some science reading before offering your ignorant opinion.
@@christiangreen1477 some researchers at MIT found a way to desalinate cheaper than processing dirty water. According to them, it going to take time and investments. 30 years ago, it was said that humanity wouldn't be able to sustain over 4 billion people and people would die. Where are we now? Science has dance a lot
That farmer answered all the questions with such grace and honesty. I have never heard of a county that owned your water rights, but I don't live in an area where water regulated. The county had to give the permits for the construction so they knew the company would need water, what was so wrong with getting it from a couple of miles away instead of all those trucks driving excess miles to pick it up, stupidness. The water would have been used anyway why was this even a big story? If that area has a lot of droughts they must haul in water a lot. That was a poor "investigative journalist" there was no questions on why that company got the permit or where the water for the project was going to come from. Clearly the water could be siphoned out and used for irrigation factoring in they didn't have chemicals in the barrels and it was just for checking leaks.
Checking for leaks in most cases is ex ray welds or with air pressure . The amount of pressure is always figured into engineering these days . We're not back in the seventh century . Like every gas , diesel , propane , natural gas pipe line and tanks , etc .etc. etc. All use air pressure . It would be like filling your tire with water to find a leak . Plus they need to be tested beyond there designed pressure .
So it is being tested with water , it just being built . I would be very very afraid of want is going to be stored and it develops a leak many years down the road . We tested it with water , we don't know why it leak fluids that can leak easily than water ?
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Shouldn't the construction company have to pull permits also. Where did the state think they were gonna get the water to fill the tanks that they were building
They were not holding tanks for water, so the state was probably unaware they were gonna use 6 million gallons to check for leaks.
The state and it's over regulations is the reason nothing can be done in the US any-more.
@varner226 Well, then it's the states fault. These aren't the first holding tanks ever constructed.
La Mordida.
Right!!?? Ant the state inspectors for the project didn't question where the water came from and where it was going AFTER the water test was complete?? We are all not so ignorant!!
I guarantee this is not the only illegal water theft.
Saudis have been draining water for their crops in Arizona until they put a stop to it.
That has to be 30yr. old story. 😉
"Illegal water theft" What makes this illegal?
So what happened to the water when they were through testing the tanks? I can just about guarantee that they didn't just dump it out on the ground because that would be a bigger story than this. So very likely it went right back into the ground and into the Aquifer it came from.
@@thomasriggle6371it wasn’t their water? Smdh
He knew exactly what he was doing and he didn't think he would get caught.
Whiskey is for drinking. Water is for fighting over. The classic Western Bar discussion about water.
Mark Twain
Based :>) LOL
COPY CAT….@@richardkeen9888
Whiskey for his men and Beer for the horses
Sounds right…..@@calvincamara7708
Just change your name to Nestle.
Or Poland springs.
coke. they paid 3 or 400 dollars for water years ago.
Nailed it !!
Good one Ken🤙🏽☮️ yup you nailed it...Poland Springs water, coca cola, Pepsi, the list is hurtfully endless. Water thieves even on Maui for 100+ years🤙🏽💖🏝😢 and when you think of all the waste of precious water millions of gallons millions upon millions that are used for theme parks and golf courses in rich people resorts.....just so distressing. And the water regarded for human consumption is nothing short of poison.
Hunts
Farming in a desert just has never sound like a good idea.
Unless you have a good water source.
Morons gonna Moron.
Ignorance is apparent
@@dh5380 IGNORE ance.
Neither does building cities next to volcanos, rivers, on quake fault zones
Problem with all this is the Water aquifer isn't only under his Property and it doesn't only affect his property. It affects the whole surrounding area and every Ranch or homestead within Miles of his Ranch. They suck it dry and everyone's Wells will run dry and be useless not to mention dropping the water table quickly like that can cause safety issues with land splitting wide open.
That is just not how that works, at all.
Agreed. Wish that was more clear in this broadcast and not just inferred.
The last time I checked land never floated on water. Water doesn't (belong) to anyone. They may claim it but that's no different then this rancher selling access to it. What it all boils down to is the state is pissed they didn't get thousands of dollars for something they claim but don't oun.
@@jamesrice6096 It is exactly how it works Mr. TH-cam expert.
@@thedesertdwellerfromutah4354 thanks youtube fact checker. Is that what the media told you or haven't you figured out that dirt doesn't float? 🤔
So being penalized for 35 acres is a hand slap.
when he was asked the question "did you realize you didn't have a valid permit?', did anyone noticed how much he was blinking his eyes?
He was blinking like that through the entire interview.
He was blinking Morse code.
He appears to be blinking: "I wanna get my scatter gun and ask these camera people to leave." 🤣
I think the wind was bothering his eyes.
I never blink. Man’s obviously a liar
*Slobbering, shaking, heart beating so hard you could see his shirt pumping, smirking slightly, etc...* *If this was a lie detector test it would have blown the machine up.*
Everybody seems to have sidestepped the really crucial issue here. WHAT are they going to do with the 6 million gallons of water already in the tanks, now that they have been "tested"? WHAT was the purpose that the tanks were built for in the first place? WHO paid for the tanks to built?
Use the water for agriculture irrigation of course. Its just a Bogus matter. So the water gets a dual use: tank testing, & then irrigation.
Good question.
So what happened to the water used for testing the tanks?
Leaked out
@@joebird1400 Probably
Contaminated water now. Probably get pumped into the Colorado municipal pipeline that runs into west Texas.
Someone actually asked the right question.
Alcohol distillation lowers the water table in Iowa for mandated gasahol subsidies to farmers, nothing new about government sale of resources to industry
When I was young a rich man told me it is always smarter to ask for forgiveness than for permission.
When I was young my dad told me you can forgive a criminal after he servs time for the crime.
@@randywise5241
When I was young, a rich man, and my dad told me "don't get caught".
So far...so good....
@@blaydCA LOL.
"Do not do the crime if you cannot do the time." Was a generation X thing. I had plenty of time on my hands.
@@randywise5241
"Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time" was around loooong time before even MY time, nevermind GenX and that was a gall dang loooong time ago. LoL
Not smarter, easier....
The best thing about this case is the fact that water is more valuable than gasoline
California uses about fifteen gallons a day per almond in growing of almond trees
They need to stop growing almond tress that's crazy !!
I thought the most interesting part was that the state knew about and permitted the construction a mere 5mi away. The state knew what would be required for construction and use once complete. Where did the state think the water was going to come from? Money for the permit was always going to make the same water available for construction.
Kings Ranch 825,000 acres.
The penalty for his actions is;
He can’t irrigate 35 acres for one year?!?!??
An oversight is an understatement!
Usually means you overlooked something you shouldn't do that you knew about...
Oversite? Illegal and got caught. Didn’t say how much he received in $$$ for the water. He is not being picked on. He’s actually being given special treatment. He should be charged with a crime.
Yes what a way to sugarcode crime.
@@mikedebell2242 is call crime while ignoring the law, that's why he didn't applied for a permit.
@@cconnon1912 instead they made others paid the consequences by not been able to buy water from him for irrigation for one year.
Axis losing millions of gallons to foreign countries. It’s illegal to grow alfalfa in Saudi Arabia so they’re doing in the desert of AZ with NO RESTRICTIONS on amounts pumped!! Thanks Hobbs.
lol check the news. No more alfalfa is being grow there anymore. Period.
find some new podcast trash to regurgitate those farms were shut down awhile ago and what exactly does Hobbs have to do with anything those water rights laws have been in place for decades and still are but hey at least you got some thumbs up
@@marknicolich5789
Those farms were NOT shut down.
They weren't allowed additional wells after the State of Arizona stepped in.
If only you had honest elections
@@marknicolich5789 it looks like it JUST was reported on back in October and November of 2023 and the Saudi farms shipped the alfalfa back to Saudi since 2015. That is pretty recent for something so blatantly, in-your-face-America aggravating and shouldn't be forgotten for a second unless you, too, think man-dress boy in Saudi Arabia is a pretty great guy, too, and doing wonderful things. The Saudi company, Fondomonte, does own 10,000 acres outright versus the leased land that Hobbs is reversing the decision made by a prior governor - opening the state up to a law suit. This is backup water for Tucson and Phoenix. The laws better catch up with the reality or water misuse and theft is only going to increase. Meter all of the wells and plug them as punishment for abuse. Edit: You can monitor well production from a distance with the new-fanged technology - ask any pumper who lost their well-paid, cherry job to it being centralized at the office and done by those who knew or learned Python in anticipation.
the corruption in that family runs deep .
Like the Bidens
Biden, Bush.. same levels
The whole issue is the state didn't get their cut from the sale. Bottom line.
Bam! nailed it!!
Yeah, who gives a crap about local residents if their wells go dry. Big biz all the way... right republicans?
Exactly
I mean Los Lunas just tripled their contract with Niagra bottling company despite huge community outcry.
Politicians dgaf about the community they serve - its all money.
Yep my thoughts exactly
The King ranch has been in business since 1917, and the owner didn't know anything about the water usage rules he was violating? Come on, Mr. King. Really?
It appears to be a case of "anything is for sale for the right price".
But, what happened to the water when the construction company was done with the leak tests???
went back into the ground...
@@truckstopcowboytruckstopco5639and with what toxins, surely not as pure as it was pumped?
What toxins are you talking about? @@crazylady..
@@IanHotson anything that the water touches, building materials aren't healthy and pure. Dust, dirt, parts from the building?
If it comes from the earth, it can go back to the earth. @@crazylady..
He didn’t know he needed a permit? He worked with his brother in the government, besides ignorance of the law is not an excuse for breaking it.
Hes well aware of all water permits & legal water usage & they called it an oversight??
I call bullshi*!!
Hes a liar & a thief!!!
Sounds like there's protection in place for Mr cattle barron!Barron!!
Look the other way for the haves & screw the have nots!!
Unless you're a cop.
@@steveschutte4990or Trump
The question that needs to be asked and answered is IF BEFORE the pumping of this water was done AND the land owner AND Construction company ASKED for a permit WOULD it have been granted???
Definitely, the government is only mad they didnt get a cut
Guy steals water and sells what isn't his and y'all blame the govt. You're a bunch of clowns.
@@d-rot wrong, the LAND OWNER also owns the water UNDER his land. It's the INTRUSIVE GOVERNMENT who's regulations that have encroached upon his rights that is the problem. Hence my question ❓
No it wouldn't, because that water well is designated for irrigation purposes only by the state, so he new it was most likely not to get approved.
@@d-rotright, because who but the state would know about the construction project and considered the impact on the local environment. Probably even including water and other stuff too. 😆 the state just wants their cut of the money.
Get a 4 mile long hose and when they are done with the water, pump it back to the King ranch and back down the hole.
No irrigation for 35 acres?? Thats it?? Yea, this guy is for sure well connected!!
Son of a politician.
You know that only the amount of water taken is equivalent to 6 1 acre-inch rains over 35 acres. New Mexico saved millions of gallons by not letting him irrigate all year. It is a tremendous penalty to King and Karen and a massive boost to the aquifer she is concerned about. Doers always have a target on their back.
@@greatplainsman3662 You're missing the point. Thirty-five acres is nothing ... he may even gain benefit for leaving the field fallow for a year.
If the water sold was only enough to irrigate 35 acres for one year, they are really winding themselves up to a ridiculous degree over almost nothing.
How many gallons of water dose it take to irrigate 35 acres for two years??? Could it be equal to the amount he sold? Or maybe even more then that in a hard year. Plus, that is 35 acres of land not producing any income for two years, or hay for his cattle. Witch means out of pocket expense or down sizing hid heard.
Maybe learn a little bit about ranching and what it cost to raise one from impregnation to action before bitching about losing the usage of 35 acre’s of farm land for two years is a small price for the offense.
Alfalfa grass, what he is growing, uses a TON of water. Look it up.
Water wars begin
We Need the Water Wars Now.
Wow, you mean, they finally did their job after millions of gallons were stolen. And what we're supposed to congratulate them.
What was done with the water after the testing was done? Was it drained back into the landscape?
Nahhh lol, they stole it because they paid for it.
Investigate what is going on in our communities.🇺🇸
Accountability! Love it. The whole story is good including how the King responded
must be hard to save water for all the golf courses
Ban assault golf courses
@@OutWestRedDirt
Hell, just ban golf
Golf / floG < flog : to beat
This is the calmest investigative story that I've ever seen.
Because hes white
This happens around EVERY oil field. The drilling companies buy water from random "water haulers" without questioning about where the water came from, those water haulers will steal water from anywhere they can get it.
No lie there, I've seen fish swimming in a fresh water tank on a rig site . Word got out the vac trucks were pulling it from the pecos River
Tho he doesn't have too. He shouldve involved the voice & opinion of his local neighbors about the water deal.
LOW OVERHEAD
Once the contractor is finished testing the tanks for leaks, why couldn’t they then return the water back into the water supply or back to the rancher for irrigation???
Just testing a clean tank for leaks wouldn’t contaminate the water at all.
According to the radical left it’s contaminated if fish can’t swim in it it’s contaminated
In other words, the state didn’t get their cut and they’re pissed about it
@davidwang4364 Well said. cjaneAlaska is probably one of those cynics who hates everything about governmental regulations,
@davidwang4364 18 million gallons is 2,406,250 cubic feet, if you had a building 100 feet long and 100 feet wide of unlimited height, that amount of water would fill it up 240 feet high- or to put it another way- the height of a 24 story building that size, suddenly when put into a VISUAL form it is a lot more significant than the number looks on paper.
@cjaneAlaska
No, in THE words he violated the terms of the permit, negatively affecting everyone else who relies on that water that their WELLS tap into. So what happens to the home owner when their well goes dry and they spent thousands having it drilled deeper only to find there's no water there either? Now they have a house they cant sell all because one yahoo with connections to the governor willfully violated his permit that gave him a fair amount of water usage so there's water for other people, but he decided "screw the neighbors I'm cashing in!"
No, permit fees are cheap! King was capitalizing at the expense of his neighbors. Get real!
Absolutely no doubt.very fucken pissed.
When he runs out of water he'll be crying that the ranch/farm needs help. Selling water is easier than farming.
What's farming
No, he just get a deeper well.
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If you say so. That is what our ranch did. We lost our well water in the 70s drought due to another farmer putting in a deeper well. My stepdad put in a deeper well so we could have water. Call it what you want but it’s been done a lot lately.
Rev. 02. The tankers continue to role, there are six. They are filling from the same Volunteer Fire Department hydrant, located in Santa Fe County. The tankers are parked behind a motel in Torrance County. All 6, haul all day long every day except on Saturdays and Sundays. I contacted the Santa Fe county sheriffs' office, they said, they are allowed to pump it out, for use on municipal projects.
Not sure what project they're talking about.
Looks like the water is stored,so it’s not a total loss.Once tanks are tested it can be later applied to the irrigation ditches in the area.
But, keep in mind, after construction of the tanks the metal surface is still oily. This means the water is for sure contaminated.
@@billferner6741 and my truck leaks oil, what's your point? Doesn't oil come from the ground?
@@billferner6741 Oops!
@@thomasriggle6371 you don't get it. A drop of oil makes gallons of water unusable.
@billferner6741 you don't get it. Water! It comes from the ground! Oil, it comes from the ground. Is there some kinda secret magic that keeps them separated underground? 🤡
Sounds like the biggest issue is that the government didn't get their cut, I mean "permit fee" up front.
Not the issue at all. Permit fees are insignificant! Get a clue!
@@samstewart9249 Well please enlighten us on the true issue then.
Wow what a shocking surprise a politician type ignoring the law
Holy crap. You mean reporters actually investigate?
Well Sauro's doesn't own ALL of them just the big ones.
where does the water go after the storage and line tests?
They need millions of gallons of freshwater for each fracking well!
So tell us the fracking story.
Terrible it’s his water he can do what he wants with it !
OMG... and seeing the thumbnail I thought someone was illegally dumping toxic waste.... Hard for me in New York to imagine such severe issues with water. Pollution, yes.....
LOOK UP ONANDOGA LAKE IN SYRACUSE, ONE OF THE 10 DIRTIEST LAKES IN THE WORLD....
@@harryballsacky I'm aware of that. I'm over near Conesus/Hemlock. I was poking at them for getting their shorts in a twist over a few truckloads of water, when in some years we have standing water in our lawns all summer.... Seeing the thumbnail with an unlabelled tanker, it gives the initial impression that someone was dumping nasty stuff.....
@@DJ-bh1juway more than a few tankers of water
So after the test are done on the tanks.. can't the water be pulled out and used for irrigation?
That is what I was wondering...
I’m sure it can through a filter press to keep the contaminants out.
Only if you have flooded irrigation you can't do nothing with regular pivot sprinkler
Not if it is contaminated,by the construction site
Rev. 03. The tankers continue to role, there are now eight tankers hauling water Monday-Friday out of Santa Fe County. They are filling from the Volunteer Fire Department hydrant, and the community water source in Edgewood also located in Santa Fe County. The tankers are parked behind a motel in Moriarty, located in Torrance County. I contacted the Santa Fe county sheriffs' office, they said, the fire department in Edgewood sometimes give permission to take water for use on municipal projects. I've talked with locals about wells drying up around here, residents don't know what project they're talking about. It was related to me by a County Worker that they are selling it, to whom I do not know.
The state approved the construction. Including the water requirements during construction and operation. That water will be used. Period. The only question now is how much the state will profit since they shut him down to keep it for themselves.
Former AZ Congressman Sam Steiger, who had a TV show until his stroke, always quoted "Whiskey if for drinking, water is for fighting." This is classic, the land owner is getting punished, NOT THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY? Mr. King should sue that company.
He got an undisclosed amount of cash on that water venture.
@drivenbullet260 not what the state is claiming. Otherwise, they wouldn't of fined him on irrigation for the year. That's just the beginning.
Great job, Mr. Hammond.
Thank you for following these actions
He sold 6 million gallons of water and he claims he had no idea he was doing anything wrong?! The guy is only irrigating 35 acres of pasture off that well, he's either lying or he's a congenital idiot. He should be fined and be required to provide third-party water to any residents nearby whose wells dry up. What a jerk.
cited for 14 million. He said he "owned" the water, Oh? And how much is used on his 35 acres? Owned vs "rights to" might be samantics.
6 million gallons is 18 acre-feet. That's about the same amount four acres of alfalfa would consumptively use in one year. Not a huge amount of water when compared to what this well likely normally extracts from the water table in a year. If the water was discharged on the ground after tank testing some of it may have found its way back to the water table. I agree the State Engineer needs to follow the law but the magnitude of this infraction is not being communicated when the presenters of this story provide no context to the number thrown out.
Yeah, I was also wondering what the yearly allotment for the well was, and what percentages of that allotment this misallocation and the fine were.
Kudos to the investigative report looking into this and brining it out into the light of day. Journalists are boss.
Government in central Ohio would have gladly joined the rancher. Develope everything in sight especially if the county gets some money.
Are you talking about Intel I'm from Johnstown
The Johnstown area. The northern pickaway county rickenbacker area. There are many small towns and rural areas being destroyed by county and government greed in Ohio.
How can I give you my email or something like privately so I don't have to put it on here and we can communicate that way I'm just really want to know what you what you got like I've never heard anything about it
Now that the tanks are 'tested ', what happens to the stolen property?
Why am I suspicious that those tanks were built to hold, oh idk ...WATER?
Question now is what happens to all that water once the construction company no longer needs it, when it has to empty those holding tanks... do they just let it drain out onto the ground?
Kings genius plan works out perfectly. He’s not allowed to pump for one year but now will use that sold water to water crops during the one yr ban I’d say.
Doubt it
well that would make more sense than letting it run out ..... at least it wouldnt be wasted
He's only banned from watering 35 acres of his thousands of acres for a year. Did we not all watch the Same video.
That water is contaminated after its test purposes. The state will put the shaft to him if he tries to use it for irrigation purposes. Definitely ruin the local water table s.
Sorry, Utah is the second driest state. New Mexico is nunber 5. However, water is definitely a critical resource in New Mexico.
I have 36 acres and we can’t seem to find a company to drill a well for us.
We haul water from the community well.
I live in PA, we have water coming out our asses.
And? Doesn't seem any water theft was going on here. It's in HIS property
what did the contractor do with the water once the tests were done?
It is his well. The local government needs to chill.
Only restrictions on American people and not foreigners
Thank a democrat
The smirk on his face says a lot about him, he knew damn well what he was doing
35 acre irrigation penalty. 😂. Even being generous with what you can profit per acre, that’s a pittance compared to what he sold the water for. $$$$$$$$$
He should forfeit the purchase price of the water as well !
That's why he was smiling through the whole interview.
He completed cheated the system. He should go to jail
As long as the state gets paid they don’t care
All the people who think they can just dump that water back in the aquifer to be used by homeowners for their water wouldn’t say that if they lived there. Those construction areas are filthy and all those steel bin sheets are coated with oil. You drink that.
107 years and you don't know you did something wrong, he knew you can't do shit like that.
They didn’t throw the water away. They borrowed it for testing and likely returned it to the farm land where it was used for irrigation.
Nonsense. The water could not be pumped back into the ground and the farm doesn't have above ground storage for that amount of water. You are making comments based on facts not in evidence.
Of course they did! Good grief. Potentially contaminated water with metals and chemicals put back on crops for consumption. That makes so much sense. Not how it works
@@johnboylong40 you haven't the faintest idea of what you are talking about.
@@avsystem3142 Oily water from the inside of a tank should not be pumped back into the ground !
@@fposmith What gives you the idea that the tanks were oily? They were new and being tested for leaks prior to filling. You are just making stuff up with no factual basis.
The water used to hydro test the tanks could be reclaimed after testing and trucked back to the farms for irrigation. It doesn’t make what they did right, but the water doesn’t have to be lost.
If the water is used for testing only I'm sure it could be used for its intended purpose after. Have it tested and treated if necessary and return it to the aquifer through percolation or trucked back to the farm.
LOL
That crooks blink rate went nuts when he was questioned
Be Alert, Guard Water Supply 💧
❤❤❤ WOW, as always, observation is keen. One lady potentially stopped a major overhaul business violation, which could of been going anywhere, even INTO Mexico. Just more greed❤❤❤
So, he loses 35 acres of crops for a year to replenish the water supply. What's the big deal, he was not denying that he had misused the water.
The state water engineer was super weird and tight lipped on camera. Like he was choosing his words very carefully and intentionally not giving more details. My bet is that if the ranch had simply applied for the permit it would have been granted. The water sale might not have been quite as lucrative but it still would have gone through. I suspect that is what the engineer is not saying.
6million gallons sounds like a lot, but by the napkin math at the end it is irrigation water for less than half of that 35 acre penalty, so what, 15 acres of crop worth of water? It matters but this is not that big of a deal on the scale of the whole area.
I can appreciate your Common sense approach to reality here but your trying to explain reason to a society that has completely lost its mind.
Ol Tight Lip knows there's MANY unturned stones.
He's fixing to speak with the governor and state attorney.
Hell that land might end up as federal property if it goes to the state Supreme Court.
Smuggling fentanyl or little children for human trafficking
I have heard more than once in my life said,
Ignorance is no excuse to the law.
I noticed there was no mention of how much money
he had received for the unlawful transaction.
Maybe a good penalty would be to find out how much,
then he having to forfeit that amount.
Plus major fines for breaking a common sense law
It was a violation of a Code it becomes unlawful if there is continuous improper use
It said in the video
@@janiewilliams48 They said 54 million gallons was transferred. He was penalized 14 million gallons and could not Irrigate his crops for one year.
My question is, what are the crops used for? Cattle feed or human consumption?
Ether was it sounds like people are the ones paying the price.
Thanks for your comment 👍👍
So what your saying is, the government didn't get their cut of the money. As for the water, just use it for watering when you remove it from the tanks. Problem solved.
That water is not far away, it is still there and available if there is a critical shortage.
And contaminated.
@@janiewilliams48 like your brain
I bet you nobody will wind up in jail for doing something illegal or pay the consequences for what they have done
Watched a TV program years ago where a Truck Driver had some sort of blood cancer and had only months to live he said he would haul some used chemicals from a chrome plating business and get out on dirt roads and open the valves and drive around until truck was empty.
This wasn't making any sense until I seen you meant to say "Truck Driver" ! Try proof reading before posting !
I seen or I saw?
That sounds similar to like the 1970’s Times beach Missouri contamination
It was the Love canal disaster near Niagara Falls NY. The Hooker Chemical co. dumped 22.000 tons of chemical biproducts on the roads, they had their drivers do it on rainy nights, so no one suspected it,
I seen them water dogs going to that new fuel rack they're building.
Maybe I missed it but I didn't notice how much Mr. King charged the construction contractor for 14 million gallons of water. His having to forfeit use of an equivalent amount of water for his own use was a just decision - I'm sure there will be fines or penalties besides. I can't really believe that anyone as involved with the permitting process and monitoring of his irrigation wells didn't realize that selling it was very questionable and possibly illegal. The amount of money he collected from the contractor would be telling.
If the water is just being used to test a new tank... It can be returned to the land, used for irrigation and watering livestock.
The tank can store it until it is to be used or it can even be returned to the well. A new tank won't have contaminated the water.
This isn't a Yeti 64 oz. cooler. Million gallon tanks are site built of very large sheets of METAL . Very large sheets of METAL are produced by rolling metal between rollers coated in ..........oil. You think maybe the water was to test the tanks,clean the tanks, test and clean the piping, pump and valve systems? This reporter has a Buford T. Justis stranglehold on this water "selling" scheme.
How much did King make on selling the water????
Maybe it was a dollar ,but he's a major stockholder?......
His fine should be ten times the amount he received when he sold it.
If the state engineer has authority over NM surface water, than he should be jailed or at least embarrassed for the negligence of the USFS, BLM, Sanish land grants, and reservations for having the river banks, acequias, lakes, flow paths and sources of the hydrological cycle constricted, diverted, over grown with invasive species, covered in fences, garbage and dead fuel tonnage, or completely fenced off in violation of open streams act and maritime law it's absolutely pathetic how NM treats its most precious recourse, just like it treats it children, expendable.
NM is the result of MANY decades of liberal democrat leadership.. #WalkAway and VOTE TRUMP 2024!
You think that's bad? Don't look over here.
can't irrigate 35 acres for 1 year! Wow! I'm sure he'll feel that one in the pocketbook!!!
He sure will feel it!
He will actually MAKE some money selling the bulk water instead of barely making money with a corn crop.
Cows.@@blaydCA
He'll probably get a disaster paycheck for no crops. They do it down texas as they lease their property to oil production then move the family to Montana and play cowboy.
Tanks can easily be tested with air pressure, the shipyards always test welded tanks of any kind with air, UT, and xray.
no, tanks are tested with water... for many reasons, including weight... stick to tacking stringers my guy
I'm so glad I live in a country where water is available everywhere and you can use as much as you want for what you want without permits
Makes you wonder if he'd have applied for a permit would he have gotten it and if so that would have made it about nothing but the money. But this way they can say it was illegal because he didn't get the permit. He's screwed either way.
You'd have to be an idiot to believe that guy didn't know he was breaking the law.
I think we are getting to the point where we will have no choice but to build Desalination plants all along the coast to transport water. If we can do that with oil, then we can do that with water
Humans not working 24/7 on converting Sea/salt water to drinking water is a good indication of our imbedded grazing attitude is still very much incharge of us. Of all the tech we have created that should have always been priority #1.
I saw Bill Gates demonstrating drinking water from feces, we can do much better. That is sick people wasting time resources and money, no if's and's or but's.
If the salt that's removed during the process is put back into the ocean, the problems we face now will be nothing compared to what lies ahead.
right.... desal is VERY energy intensive, on the order of smelting aluminum... where does that energy come from and would you pay $5 a gallon for water? do some science reading before offering your ignorant opinion.
@@christiangreen1477 some researchers at MIT found a way to desalinate cheaper than processing dirty water. According to them, it going to take time and investments. 30 years ago, it was said that humanity wouldn't be able to sustain over 4 billion people and people would die. Where are we now? Science has dance a lot
He easily made over $600k selling the 6 million plus gallons. He’s not worried because any fine will be small compared to what he made off the deal.
Wow. That’s so mysterious. Who’d ever think that a farmer would transport water to his crops? I’m baffled
That farmer answered all the questions with such grace and honesty. I have never heard of a county that owned your water rights, but I don't live in an area where water regulated. The county had to give the permits for the construction so they knew the company would need water, what was so wrong with getting it from a couple of miles away instead of all those trucks driving excess miles to pick it up, stupidness. The water would have been used anyway why was this even a big story? If that area has a lot of droughts they must haul in water a lot. That was a poor "investigative journalist" there was no questions on why that company got the permit or where the water for the project was going to come from. Clearly the water could be siphoned out and used for irrigation factoring in they didn't have chemicals in the barrels and it was just for checking leaks.
By that same reasoning, it shouldn't be illegal to rob banks.
Checking for leaks in most cases is ex ray welds or with air pressure .
The amount of pressure is always figured into engineering these days .
We're not back in the seventh century .
Like every gas , diesel , propane , natural gas pipe line and tanks , etc .etc. etc.
All use air pressure .
It would be like filling your tire with water to find a leak .
Plus they need to be tested beyond there designed pressure .
So it is being tested with water , it just being built .
I would be very very afraid of want is going to be stored and it develops a leak many years down the road .
We tested it with water , we don't know why it leak fluids that can leak easily than water ?
6 million gallons of water belonging to All ranchers, sold by one entitled rancher for commercial use. Sounds familiar.
18 acre feet, enough to irrigate 4 acres of crops for one year.... while you clutch your pearls in ignorance, try doing math 1st instead.
If the King family asked for a permit, it is a shure thing the state would give it to them.
New hydro plans to nyc from Canada. This is probably a squeeze on water to make some more regulation and anti human policies.
Imagine charging for a natural resource.
Looking for a fast buck. They must have offered him a lot of $$$ to steal his water. Now he can't farm for a year.
Profits over people. Capitalism at its best.