I agree with you and Im a big believer on seeing what looks good to you and don't base it off of what other people say. You could be missing out on your favorite movie because someone said something negative about it. Great video man!
That’s very true, people have to think for themselves. I frequently will check with RT after the movie to see if it matches up with what I thought that it would be.
Well said - I’ve noticed a lot of communities on TH-cam, Fitness, Film reviews, etc… have a tendency to turn on each other over time. Your approach is much better. Great video.
Steven, you’re even nice with your rants 😁. I also don’t let reviews sway me from watching a movie. I enjoy hearing the opinions of people I like, but as someone who has also made a movie, I try to be more forgiving knowing what it took to make it. I try and make my out of the theater reactions, which are only 1 minute and spoiler free, more about what to expect than an actual lengthy review, with maybe an opinion or two tossed in for good measure.
Thanks Huck, I’m an old softy and my thumbnail could be viewed as click-bait. 🤣 Yes, I pretty much only do out of the theater reactions now too, if I had more than a minute to talk I would spoil the whole movie. 😂
It used to be fun listening to reviews when I first got into TH-cam, but now that shit’s kinda weak. All of these big movie critics have nothing interesting to say anyway, and their subscribers basically just parrot whatever they say until it turns into some kind of a damn echo chamber. Great video, man. 🤘🏻
I 💯 agree. I hate people who just try to put people down. When we do our show for Indie Film Cafe we are honest but we never tell people they aren’t allowed to enjoy what they enjoy. There’s a channel won’t say who just does blatant attacks on people. I hate it.
I don’t let any singular individual dictate what I see in theaters, generally speaking I have an idea of whether or not a movie is gonna interest me or not. If the general consensus around a movie is that it’s bad, however, that will definitely be a factor for me regarding whether I see a movie.
Yes, check out a movie for yourself. I agree, if everyone that I know has had a bad experience with a movie I may wait to find a low price on used physical media or maybe even on streaming.
Great video. As far as TH-cam reviews affecting box office, I would say it’s like how people watched Siskel and Ebert back in the day. If I want to see something theatrically I will regardless of what the reviews are.👍
Excellent! I want movie goers to form their own opinion and enjoy movies. I don’t have an agenda on my channel to ruin movies for others, I celebrate movies.
I used to love watching Siskel & Ebert - I used to love going to the movies - but it seems like they don’t really make movies for people our age anymore. There used to be an interesting movie coming out every week or every other week - a courtroom drama or a psychological thriller type of movie. I’ve only seen three movies in the theater this year. By trying to appeal to everyone they end up appealing to no one.
@@Franksmediaandreviews thanks Frank. Yes, I love getting out and seeing movies in a movie theater the first time. This way I get to see movies before a lot of people and I get to see which ones I will want to buy on physical media. Let me know if you ever want to do a Livestream, Frank.
Yeah it's hard to do a review without spoiling something about the movie. Like you I wouldn't watch a review before I have seen the movie myself. Great video!
Steve, awesome video and message! Building a channel by tearing down others and being overly negative is no good. Couldn’t agree more. Keep up the good work, man and have a great Memorial Day weekend ahead!
Thanks James. You’re good friend and I appreciate the positive outlook you have on movies similarly to Daisuke. Yes, have a great memorial weekend with your family.
Interesting video. I agree 100 with you. TH-camrs, or any movie reviewers for that matter, do not influence my decisions to see movies. No one can tell me if a movie is good, or bad. I pay my own money to see a movie so only I can decide if the movie is good or bad. That is the same with every individual person. I loved Siskel & Ebert but never took their reviews as “be all end all”. No reviewer has that kind of power.
Great video, Steve. I totally agree. Also, I must say I love the beautiful criterion collection behind you. I know that's one of your favorites. It's looking good behind you.
Wouldn't skip a movie that I had interest in seeing because of a video, but have seen some because of recommendations from from youtubers that I enjoy. Good luck on your channel.
Yes, excellent, that’s always been my goal. I just want to tell people how I felt about a movie and I want to encourage. I don’t do out of the theater reactions about movies that I didn’t feel good about, but they don’t have to be 5 Star movies for me though.
I dont watch reviews unless ive seen it or have no interest of seeing it. Its impossible to review a movie, spoiler free unless youre just saying thumbs up or thumbs down. I used to dissuade friends from seeing stuff i thought was crap, but now i dont because like you said some stuff is not for me.
Yes, some movies are targeting a younger audience, like Five Nights at Freddy’s, and they’re not necessarily being made for older people that have never played the game, it wasn’t made for me and that’s fine.
Yo Steve, didn't know you'd done this rant. I very rarely log onto my TH-cam and no notifications. These "hateful" TH-cam movie reviewers view it as a "career", for whatever reason they failed in the general work populace so try playing the online numbers game. They don't give a crap about the movies or genre they're reviewing, what they care about foremost is clicks. Now if all you care about is drawing attention to your channel you're never going to be sincere about a movie, because your mindset is tainted by getting more eyeballs onto your uploads hence subscribers. I've seen several TH-camrs follow this path. They start with positive or neutral reviews, an already overcrowded marketplace, and get nowhere. Then do one hateful upload and all of a sudden they have 1000 new subscribers. Which in turn leads to them doing it again and again. The problem with this approach is, as you know, the subsequent accompanying negative discourse leads to polarisation and that is toxic, you're not going to get reasoned or fun debate from polarisation, look at how around the world currently right and left wing political groups, whom to their own country's detriment, refuse to agree on anything! Many refuse to engage with politics as they view it as toxic. Now Art, although it can be politicised, is not real life politics, as you say it's escapism. Hence the toxic discourse does put audiences off going to the theatre, and that is harmful for the film industry all along the supply chain. For example, see the current Rotten Tomatoes audience score for The Acolyte. The hatemongers were told it's not for them, they've gone on to review bomb it anyway, so everyone's talking about the negativity rather than the show itself. The hatemongers do not care if a local community theatre closes down. Oh they may pretend too, but they do not. Cinema's closing down just gives them another hateful clickbait title to shove on their channel: "They should''ve done what I said, nothing to do with me, it's all their own fault, don't blame me blame the algorithm", etc.. This is a self-destructive process. Fewer cinema's, fewer movies that anyone cares about to review, less clicks. Take Stuckmann, he's always wanted to make movies, but he made his name as a movie reviewer including hateful reviews. He lacked foresight when he did this and created a juxtaposition. Stuckmann needs cinemas to show his "movie" and non-hateful audiences who aren't going to review bomb it. If memory serves the covert bigoted hatemongering TH-cam stuff started with Doomcock around the time of Ghostbusters (2016) then along came Critical Drinker and self-proclaimed MAGA Nerdrotic who refined the style. And now you have people like Cody Leach attempting to insert themselves into that hate fuelled arena/pick up some of that traffic by telling followers to not go and see movies. Nerdrotic and his "followers" went for Star Trek: Discovery in 2017. According to him Star Trek: Discovery was going to be cancelled after the first season, he lies to his audience and they just follow along like a brainwashed lynch mob, a la Alex Jones's herd. Also, I'm 6ft and all the men in my family are taller than me going up to about 6ft10. You'd fit right in, lol.
Wow! I really appreciate the time and thought you gave on your comments and I couldn’t have said it any better myself. Yes, I try not to go too negative in my videos because I love movies and movie theatres and I don’t want to kill them. The Watchers is a new example, I saw it today and although it’s a bit of a slow burn it deserves better than a 30% score on RT and I really liked the third act.
I have that problem with Critical Drinker and his band of dipshits, like Nerdrotic etc. - even though I actually tend to actually AGREE with a lot of what they say, however that whole clickbaity, nothing but negativity schtick is infuriating and their personalities are so grating, like nails on a chalkboard. Stuckmann has always been my favourite because he's not obnoxious or inflammatory like them, even back when he was a bit more critical.
Thanks, Corey. Yes, they’re all spoiling the movie regardless. I’ve thought about changing my channel’s name, but think Jeff Rauseo (formerly of FilmsAtHome) found out it’s difficult to change your name on Instagram and LetterBoxd.
like you i dont watch movie reviews until after ive seen the movie and it is mostly to see if what someone else thought. like i think of a film like zone of interest which i still have trouble wrapping my head around. watching other people’s opinion interests me trying to make sense of it. deep focus lens if youre not familiar with her might be the best doing it out there. i guess im not that up on movie youtube people cause im not familiar with who youre talking about or that there are youtube people making videos about other youtube people…. thats funny (in a pathetic way.) lotta idiots out there.
Yes, I watch Maggie from deepfocuslens frequently and she can be a little harsh on new movies sometimes, but I still respect her opinion. Yes, there are channels that focus on everything that Chris Stuckmann, John Flickinger, John Campea, Cody Leach and Jeremy Jahns say and the person that I referring to is in this list of names, I’ll send you an Instagram with the name.
@@excelsiormoviereviews i dont know who any of those people are. i understand what ya mean about deepfocus (didnt know her name was maggie.) i just am impressed with her insights and way she articulates them.
@@STEVEHEROLD yes. I forgot to mention that I saw The Zone Of Interest at a Landmark theater because I assumed that it wouldn’t be shown at a Regal or AMC and surprisingly it never did. I have an AMC 17 screen theater about 30 minutes away and they showed Anatomy of a Fall, which also starred Sandra Huller, but they didn’t show this one. This AMC tends to show Arthouse movies, that’s why it surprises me. I liked The Zone of Interest for what it was with great visuals, but the subject matter was too much for me.
@@excelsiormoviereviews oh weird. I saw it at AMC by me in suburbia. my thoughts on that movie are too much to go into on youtube comments. still processing.
@@STEVEHEROLD yes, it may have been at my AMC earlier on before the Oscar nomination, but I wasn’t interested in seeing it then. It’s possible that it came to AMC after the nomination, but after I saw it at Landmark I lost track. I go to this Landmark theater 2 or 3 times a year if it seems like a movie will not be going to a Regal or AMC.
I agree with you and Im a big believer on seeing what looks good to you and don't base it off of what other people say. You could be missing out on your favorite movie because someone said something negative about it. Great video man!
That’s very true, people have to think for themselves. I frequently will check with RT after the movie to see if it matches up with what I thought that it would be.
Well said - I’ve noticed a lot of communities on TH-cam, Fitness, Film reviews, etc… have a tendency to turn on each other over time. Your approach is much better. Great video.
Thank you, I appreciate it.
Steven, you’re even nice with your rants 😁. I also don’t let reviews sway me from watching a movie. I enjoy hearing the opinions of people I like, but as someone who has also made a movie, I try to be more forgiving knowing what it took to make it. I try and make my out of the theater reactions, which are only 1 minute and spoiler free, more about what to expect than an actual lengthy review, with maybe an opinion or two tossed in for good measure.
Thanks Huck, I’m an old softy and my thumbnail could be viewed as click-bait. 🤣
Yes, I pretty much only do out of the theater reactions now too, if I had more than a minute to talk I would spoil the whole movie. 😂
It used to be fun listening to reviews when I first got into TH-cam, but now that shit’s kinda weak. All of these big movie critics have nothing interesting to say anyway, and their subscribers basically just parrot whatever they say until it turns into some kind of a damn echo chamber. Great video, man. 🤘🏻
So true. Some of the big channels have a loyal fan base and their videos will get thousands of views regardless to what they say.
I 💯 agree. I hate people who just try to put people down. When we do our show for Indie Film Cafe we are honest but we never tell people they aren’t allowed to enjoy what they enjoy. There’s a channel won’t say who just does blatant attacks on people. I hate it.
@@indiefilmcafe yep, they’re clickbait channels and for some reason they do very well.
They have zero influence on whether I see a movie. Of course, I don’t subscribe to anyone.
@@dougmcgary3435 you’re smart.
I don’t let any singular individual dictate what I see in theaters, generally speaking I have an idea of whether or not a movie is gonna interest me or not. If the general consensus around a movie is that it’s bad, however, that will definitely be a factor for me regarding whether I see a movie.
Yes, check out a movie for yourself. I agree, if everyone that I know has had a bad experience with a movie I may wait to find a low price on used physical media or maybe even on streaming.
Great video. As far as TH-cam reviews affecting box office, I would say it’s like how people watched Siskel and Ebert back in the day. If I want to see something theatrically I will regardless of what the reviews are.👍
Excellent! I want movie goers to form their own opinion and enjoy movies. I don’t have an agenda on my channel to ruin movies for others, I celebrate movies.
Hey Jim!
@@mr.danandhorror4230 sup Dan?!👍
I used to love watching Siskel & Ebert - I used to love going to the movies - but it seems like they don’t really make movies for people our age anymore. There used to be an interesting movie coming out every week or every other week - a courtroom drama or a psychological thriller type of movie. I’ve only seen three movies in the theater this year. By trying to appeal to everyone they end up appealing to no one.
That’s extremely true, they’re trying to pander to the audience instead of making art or just entertaining.
I still watch Siskel and Ebert old episodes. So much fun
@@indiefilmcafe me too
Great video, Steve! Also, you're a baller with the AMC and Regal memberships 🤣
@@Franksmediaandreviews thanks Frank. Yes, I love getting out and seeing movies in a movie theater the first time. This way I get to see movies before a lot of people and I get to see which ones I will want to buy on physical media.
Let me know if you ever want to do a Livestream, Frank.
Yeah it's hard to do a review without spoiling something about the movie. Like you I wouldn't watch a review before I have seen the movie myself. Great video!
Thanks so much. All of these TH-camrs are in a race to get their reviews out there and even a plot breakdown can ruin the movie.
Steve, awesome video and message! Building a channel by tearing down others and being overly negative is no good. Couldn’t agree more. Keep up the good work, man and have a great Memorial Day weekend ahead!
Thanks James. You’re good friend and I appreciate the positive outlook you have on movies similarly to Daisuke.
Yes, have a great memorial weekend with your family.
Interesting video. I agree 100 with you. TH-camrs, or any movie reviewers for that matter, do not influence my decisions to see movies. No one can tell me if a movie is good, or bad. I pay my own money to see a movie so only I can decide if the movie is good or bad. That is the same with every individual person. I loved Siskel & Ebert but never took their reviews as “be all end all”. No reviewer has that kind of power.
Right on. Movie watchers need to think for themselves and no one is the true authority of what is good or bad, movies are subjective.
Great video, Steve. I totally agree. Also, I must say I love the beautiful criterion collection behind you. I know that's one of your favorites. It's looking good behind you.
Thanks Jeff. Yes, I’m hooked on the Criterion Collection and I’m looking for great deals for them.
@@excelsiormoviereviews a nice set to be into for sure. I dig um. I shared this over on FB. Hoping my friends over there dig this rant. 🫡🤘
@@JOHNDOEJUGGALO thanks so much, Jeff.
Wouldn't skip a movie that I had interest in seeing because of a video, but have seen some because of recommendations from from youtubers that I enjoy. Good luck on your channel.
Yes, excellent, that’s always been my goal. I just want to tell people how I felt about a movie and I want to encourage. I don’t do out of the theater reactions about movies that I didn’t feel good about, but they don’t have to be 5 Star movies for me though.
I dont watch reviews unless ive seen it or have no interest of seeing it. Its impossible to review a movie, spoiler free unless youre just saying thumbs up or thumbs down. I used to dissuade friends from seeing stuff i thought was crap, but now i dont because like you said some stuff is not for me.
Yes, some movies are targeting a younger audience, like Five Nights at Freddy’s, and they’re not necessarily being made for older people that have never played the game, it wasn’t made for me and that’s fine.
Yo Steve, didn't know you'd done this rant. I very rarely log onto my TH-cam and no notifications. These "hateful" TH-cam movie reviewers view it as a "career", for whatever reason they failed in the general work populace so try playing the online numbers game. They don't give a crap about the movies or genre they're reviewing, what they care about foremost is clicks. Now if all you care about is drawing attention to your channel you're never going to be sincere about a movie, because your mindset is tainted by getting more eyeballs onto your uploads hence subscribers. I've seen several TH-camrs follow this path. They start with positive or neutral reviews, an already overcrowded marketplace, and get nowhere. Then do one hateful upload and all of a sudden they have 1000 new subscribers. Which in turn leads to them doing it again and again. The problem with this approach is, as you know, the subsequent accompanying negative discourse leads to polarisation and that is toxic, you're not going to get reasoned or fun debate from polarisation, look at how around the world currently right and left wing political groups, whom to their own country's detriment, refuse to agree on anything! Many refuse to engage with politics as they view it as toxic. Now Art, although it can be politicised, is not real life politics, as you say it's escapism. Hence the toxic discourse does put audiences off going to the theatre, and that is harmful for the film industry all along the supply chain. For example, see the current Rotten Tomatoes audience score for The Acolyte. The hatemongers were told it's not for them, they've gone on to review bomb it anyway, so everyone's talking about the negativity rather than the show itself.
The hatemongers do not care if a local community theatre closes down. Oh they may pretend too, but they do not. Cinema's closing down just gives them another hateful clickbait title to shove on their channel: "They should''ve done what I said, nothing to do with me, it's all their own fault, don't blame me blame the algorithm", etc.. This is a self-destructive process. Fewer cinema's, fewer movies that anyone cares about to review, less clicks. Take Stuckmann, he's always wanted to make movies, but he made his name as a movie reviewer including hateful reviews. He lacked foresight when he did this and created a juxtaposition. Stuckmann needs cinemas to show his "movie" and non-hateful audiences who aren't going to review bomb it.
If memory serves the covert bigoted hatemongering TH-cam stuff started with Doomcock around the time of Ghostbusters (2016) then along came Critical Drinker and self-proclaimed MAGA Nerdrotic who refined the style. And now you have people like Cody Leach attempting to insert themselves into that hate fuelled arena/pick up some of that traffic by telling followers to not go and see movies. Nerdrotic and his "followers" went for Star Trek: Discovery in 2017. According to him Star Trek: Discovery was going to be cancelled after the first season, he lies to his audience and they just follow along like a brainwashed lynch mob, a la Alex Jones's herd.
Also, I'm 6ft and all the men in my family are taller than me going up to about 6ft10. You'd fit right in, lol.
Wow! I really appreciate the time and thought you gave on your comments and I couldn’t have said it any better myself. Yes, I try not to go too negative in my videos because I love movies and movie theatres and I don’t want to kill them. The Watchers is a new example, I saw it today and although it’s a bit of a slow burn it deserves better than a 30% score on RT and I really liked the third act.
@@excelsiormoviereviews Went into Ben Shapiro mode 😂😂😂
@@SPBASS 😂
I have that problem with Critical Drinker and his band of dipshits, like Nerdrotic etc. - even though I actually tend to actually AGREE with a lot of what they say, however that whole clickbaity, nothing but negativity schtick is infuriating and their personalities are so grating, like nails on a chalkboard. Stuckmann has always been my favourite because he's not obnoxious or inflammatory like them, even back when he was a bit more critical.
Yes, Stuckmann is funny and personable. I like his take on movies too.
I agree this is so hard to talk about a movie not give too much away. Thanks for the video man.
Thanks, Corey. Yes, they’re all spoiling the movie regardless. I’ve thought about changing my channel’s name, but think Jeff Rauseo (formerly of FilmsAtHome) found out it’s difficult to change your name on Instagram and LetterBoxd.
like you i dont watch movie reviews until after ive seen the movie and it is mostly to see if what someone else thought. like i think of a film like zone of interest which i still have trouble wrapping my head around. watching other people’s opinion interests me trying to make sense of it. deep focus lens if youre not familiar with her might be the best doing it out there. i guess im not that up on movie youtube people cause im not familiar with who youre talking about or that there are youtube people making videos about other youtube people…. thats funny (in a pathetic way.) lotta idiots out there.
Yes, I watch Maggie from deepfocuslens frequently and she can be a little harsh on new movies sometimes, but I still respect her opinion. Yes, there are channels that focus on everything that Chris Stuckmann, John Flickinger, John Campea, Cody Leach and Jeremy Jahns say and the person that I referring to is in this list of names, I’ll send you an Instagram with the name.
@@excelsiormoviereviews i dont know who any of those people are. i understand what ya mean about deepfocus (didnt know her name was maggie.) i just am impressed with her insights and way she articulates them.
@@STEVEHEROLD yes. I forgot to mention that I saw The Zone Of Interest at a Landmark theater because I assumed that it wouldn’t be shown at a Regal or AMC and surprisingly it never did. I have an AMC 17 screen theater about 30 minutes away and they showed Anatomy of a Fall, which also starred Sandra Huller, but they didn’t show this one. This AMC tends to show Arthouse movies, that’s why it surprises me.
I liked The Zone of Interest for what it was with great visuals, but the subject matter was too much for me.
@@excelsiormoviereviews oh weird. I saw it at AMC by me in suburbia. my thoughts on that movie are too much to go into on youtube comments. still processing.
@@STEVEHEROLD yes, it may have been at my AMC earlier on before the Oscar nomination, but I wasn’t interested in seeing it then. It’s possible that it came to AMC after the nomination, but after I saw it at Landmark I lost track.
I go to this Landmark theater 2 or 3 times a year if it seems like a movie will not be going to a Regal or AMC.
Other movies for kids should be with parents.
Yes, they need someone there that will keep them behaved.
@@excelsiormoviereviewsthey never behaved
I turn my phone off as well in theaters it’s been while since we been to AMC 24
Thanks I give you 👍about criticism about anything so yes I definitely agree my mom dose have A list on her iPhone smartphone
Yes, these memberships have saved me so much money, because I go to the theater a lot.
@@excelsiormoviereviewsdefinitely
You have fantastic collection behind you awesome
Thank you
@@excelsiormoviereviewsyou’re welcome
I go any kind type of a movie animation I’m trying to see older movies horror action thriller is more me
Nice 👍 like the video
Thank you so much
@@excelsiormoviereviewsyou’re welcome
I do thumbnail also in my channel I have letter boxd and I do see movies is releasing
What’s your name on Letterboxd?
@@excelsiormoviereviewssame as my channel the master of all movies dvd collector Prestwood
Master of all movies dvd collector Prestwood
@@saraprestwood I’m not seeing it, I’ve tried one word and with underscores on Letterboxd, Sara.