And there are more thoughtful or actual detailed ways to go about it that are even semi contructive beyond “worst movie ever” to every new movie or “shit” “trash” , etc.
Chris has been neutered ever since he announced he was making a movie. It's sad watching him talk about movies since then because he's absolutely terrified of saying anything bad because he wants no criticism coming his way. So thin skinned.
@@dekai7992 So he's avoiding criticizing every aspect. He'll criticize the studios but not the creatives, which comes off as hypocritical considering he views himself as a creative. He neglects to mention that in some cases, (particularly in the case of Madame Web) it's the writers and directors who arethea problem not solely the studio.
@@LaMereACanicheIf regular criticism is overly negative to him, no wonder he can't review bad movies. But no that was why I unsubscribed, to begin with, he traded in his ability to honestly and openly critique movies for Hollywood points.
@@dekai7992 Sony hands those people the money and let them do whatever they want, they don't really care and they don't interfere, not alike Chris suggested in this video with his metal gymnastics, the people behind the sonyverse movies are actually REALLY bad at making movies, just horrible, and they should be roasted for very consistently delivering bad content.
But does he know how hard it is to run a movie studio? How dare he bash them, they are just people who have to answer to investors. Imagine all the stress they are under.....
And he never said it was. I’m fact, the video is criticism towards the practices of major studios that result in garbage like Madame Web. But keep crying about it not just being another “Madame Web bad” video.
@@paundrabima5362 you clearly missed the bigger point. Stuckman made critiques in this video. He just decided he isn’t going to tell you what not to see anymore, but he would rather suggest what you should see. It’s silly one guy decides not be among the small army of people bashing this film and suddenly he is a hack?
@@majorlazor5058 He is not a hack, but if you are just going to be toxic positive you are really not a critic anymore. If he does not want to ever criticize bad movies because he is now in the biz, he should end this channel, because it is dishonest.
He's criticizing Sony that's alot better then going after one movie he Hates the movie but he Hates Sony more for making it I think that's pretty Badass to go Sony like this
It’s funny because he once did a Fant4stic review it was hilarious and he was all ranty about it, obviously now he has to be more cautious with what he says since he’s in the business. I don’t mind it though he took a more passive aggressive approach which is more like trolling and that’s great too
Amen to that just saw it for the first time and hopefully last time yesterday when it first came out my friends saw said it was not worth it i was like i will bench it no way it is that bad bro birds of prey as horrible as it is compare this it is like Shawshank redemption
I mean i have deep respect for Chris taking this side. It's super easy to trash and make fun of this stuff. Nor should I or anybody else resent you on doing so. You spent the money and the time to see it But i respect Chris for looking at the bigger picture and understanding that this was a good example of the studio not giving a shit and screwing over the filmmakers, actors, and others behind this film
Chris fell off as a movie reviewer, he does the most barebones reviews now and he doesn’t even point out negatives… when Penguin0, someone who isn’t a movie reviewer, makes much better and more professional movies review than Chris, you know he’s fell off.
@@skippythealien9627well he’s doing it mainly because he made a movie so he doesn’t want to be too harsh on anything, its a bit cowardice imo and i don’t think you can do both things at the same time
I agree and to add my problem with Madame Web, it feels like much of production didnt work hard on it. It's not something like The Room/Niel Breen where they tried but lack of skill/talent makes it bad and wrong while still comically watchable. Madame Web is clearly a cash grab to keep the license, but, it feels like the once all the spiderman actors didn't want to appear everyone just did one take, one edit, one draft, ADRd some lines and called it a day. These are supposed to be professionals with the intent of solely to entertain the audience and nothing else. Even Morbius tried to be something despite Sonys intent and that's why it's laughed at, because it's awful, Leto is trying here, the writers tried to make something interesting and it isn't, the CGI artists tried to make their work watchable. Madame Web just didn't try in almost all levels and that's why it should be bashed. I definitely agree with you but Madame web, it felt like no one tried.
@@Deagnetic Yes, I think Chris is wrong that everyone in the industry *always* works hard and therefore you shouldn't crap on a movie just because it turns out shitty. A movie like this deserves to be shit on unless you want them to keep putting out the same effortless cash grabs. He mentions that the writers of this and Morbius were probably dealing with tons of studio interference, but who knows if that's actually true? What if the writers also put in zero effort themselves? Then they would deserve criticism just as much as the studio. But even if it's true that the writers' hands were tied by the studio, then you should be criticizing the studio itself for making such a shitty movie (I realize that's essentially what he did here, but it's obviously not just the studio itself that caused this). Just because *some* of the people involved *might* have been making an effort doesn't mean that everyone was, and the only thing we get to see is the final product, which was bad - thus, the product itself deserves criticism. Hell, you don't even need to point fingers at the actual writers or actors; you can just say that the writing itself was poor, the dialogue was poor, the CG was poor, etc., and it doesn't matter whose fault it actually was. That way, you're just criticizing the movie itself and not just shitting on some random individuals who were involved with it - which is really how Chris should be doing it. To be fair to Chris, he's right that plenty of other reviewers will shit on the movie - but that shouldn't preclude him from just telling the truth about how he feels. It almost seems like he's "lying by omission" by trying to avoid certain topics of discussion. It's just kinda weird and seems a bit disingenuous - I know he genuinely doesn't want to bash anyone, but it still comes across as a bit disingenuous to the viewer. This sort of video is something you'd expect to see from one of the actors in the movie, not a third-party, unbiased reviewer. It's just weird to see Chris doing this. He's admitted that it's partly because he's afraid that if he shits on certain movies/people, he might not get to work with them in the future, so this is basically just being done out of fear. If that's the case, he should just stop being a movie reviewer, honestly. I stopped watching a little while ago because it just got kinda boring. This is the first video of his that I've seen in like 5 months, and now I remember why I decided to stop watching. It's unfortunate, because he was one of my faves for a long time. This video was essentially just trying to explain why he stopped being "negative," and the reason is basically "everyone's hands are tied by the studio, and therefore..." Therefore what? Therefore you're going to avoid criticizing movies altogether? I get that he's trying to be different, and I sometimes enjoy hearing people gush about great movies, but that gets pretty boring pretty quick. Also, I just want to hear about what you thought of the movie - it can be negative or positive, but just fuckin tell me about what you, Chris Stuckmann, thought of the movie. I think that's generally what most people who watch movie reviewers want to hear, for better or worse. That's what movie reviewing IS.
@@byronhotchkiss3254 You're right. But I think most people don't want constructive criticism, which is the one that does what you mentioned. People want critics who bash bad films, who are "brutally honest" and it's not because this is a way to snap them out to make better films, it's because a rant or an insulting type of review is more cathartic and entertaining for them.
-So Chris, what did you think about Madame Web? "I refuse to speak poorly about a film- all films have good and bad parts and essentially every film made is not only a challenge to make under any circumstances, but a subjective piece of art." -Completely understandable Chris, a very commendable response. Can you at least talk a little about your favorite part of the film? "this interview is over."
What were the good parts of Madam Web Chris? Chris - Well the movie had a budget and was shown in theaters. I loved the idea of the film existing . I appreciate it so much as a "filmmaker". How many films have you made so far? Chris - Just one. No one has seen it. But I appreciate so much. I am a film maker now.
Dude.....he is telling the truth. You're telling me Madame web wasn't studio controlled? Of course it was. It's obvious. What he isn't going to do is turn into one of those bate channels that only bash movies. Whether good or bad. It's a sign of actual maturity that he isn't tearing it apart. even at the end he says "speak with your wallet ' which is more than a clear indicator that if we want these types of movies to stop we got to stop giving studios the money to make them.
@@rogueguardian Directors, writers and actors play a huge part in the success of a movie. If he blames only the studio for a failure then he needs to credit them and only them for successes. It would be hypocritical to not do that. PS: He isn't going to do that. He is going to praise director, writers and actors when they do good. Guaranteed.
After this, it's evident that Sony Pictures has 0 regard for script quality when it comes to these live action films, hiring the Gods of Egypt duo not once but TWICE. They really are hell-bent on taking Spider-Man to the grave.
Remember when Sonic the Hedgehog’s trailer released? The design was horrendous. Intense criticism followed. Caused the creators to rethink some things. Design was changed, now the films are far more appreciated and appealing. Criticism is needed. Causes people to change, sometimes for the better. I started a new business, faced criticism for my running of said business at the beginning of its formation. I listened, was humble, and took the criticism. It’s now more successful than I imagined. Films (like many things) need to be criticized. Helps them become better if the creative team and studios behind them are humble enough to accept it.
That's a dumb comparison though, the Sonic movies still have a lot of issues. Fans were literally so shallow they thought the movies were good because they changed Sonic's design
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69they’re not masterpieces, but they’re fun. You’re not going to make a movie based on a super fast Hedgehog incredibly engaging and intense. They changed the design when there was an outcry for a change, and it was for the better in the long run. For the studio, and people who like the films.
@@sharktoof1 I'm expecting halfway accurate movies that don't have awful, cringey humor. Detective Pikachu was everything that movie wasn't yet it's not the one that got all the attention. Yes, because Sonic fans are apparently really easy to please, fans in general will see Mario in a realistic field and want the guy that made it to be hired by Nintendo. So of course they think the bare minimum is "listening to fans" when even as a casual non-fan I can see glaring inaccuracies with the source material. Like Pachacamac is alive in the Knuckles show for fuck's sake, but y'all nutride them because they made Sonic less ugly. It's some faux-anticorporate bullshit.
It’s irrelevant how difficult it is to make a film. If it’s bad, it’s bad. If it’s good, it’s good. Sony torpedoed the film because they start with a target market, and then try to retrofit an IP, and it just doesn’t work. They did the same thing with Ghostbusters 2016. It was destined to fail from inception. How difficult the film was to make, is irrelevant. They were trying to pound a square peg through a round hole and that’s what killed it. Everyone should call it out.
SOooooo when I took creative writing (and lit analysis) classes in college, we were taught never to refer to "the writer" of the piece, but the story itself. This is why you get folks who will say things like "the story did this" or "the game did that". A big neon sign for this is using "the text", as in like "the text had this message that was hard to understand." The motive behind this is to make the focus of your critique on the actual work itself, not the people that worked on it. Like with film, you could say things like "the film" or "the directing" or "the acting", and not actually refer to specific people. I get not wanting to bash stuff -- but this is also where tone comes in. There's a wealth of difference between someone giving their honest insight and feelings on where the work falls short and where it does good versus someone just trashing it and not offering much, if anything, outside of that.
@@ethanbank1 because if they want me to pay money to go see it, they better make a good movie. It doesn’t matter how difficult the process was, only the end product. I’m not paying to see a movie simply to pay their salary, I’m there to be entertained. If it’s not entertaining, I’m not paying. Pretty simple, dude
@@ethanbank1 I’d also add that it’s not the job of critics to make excuses for why a movie is bad. Nobody who sits through 90 minutes to 2 hours of idiotic drivel cares that that idiotic drivel was difficult to make. Criticism is ultimately a good thing
@@ethanbank1 Please reconstruct your argument in something more coherent. What are you even saying? You do know that "aware" and "informed" are synonyms right? You are arguing a hypothetical situation without any evidence if it even applies to the movie here. What is the evidence in what capacity the studio affected the outcome of the movie? No one said the people who made the bad movie suck, just that the movie is bad. The main purpose of a movie is to entertain. If it fails to do that why should one's judgement be more lenient because of how hard it was to make? No one is yelling "Say the thing! Say the thing" - "Movie bad!" -"Yaaaay!", but for a coherent and argumentative opinion.
@@ethanbank1The current discussion is on the topic whether it matters or not if it was hard to make a movie. And my categorical answer same as the guy you first replied to is no. There are so many arguments to that. Just scroll down and skim through this video comment section and you'll find plenty examples. Now about studio meddling that you brought in unrelated to the first topic. I do not deny it. I want evidence in this particular case that it it the sole reason for "movie bad". And on that I'm not so sure. I don't know how you can call a video of someone painting a hypothetical situation proof?! Again without evidence. My evidence on the other hand is just as you said: I googled, read articles, watched interviews form the red carpet premiere even. There are interviews of the director being proud of their work on the movie. There is an interview of the writers on the red carpet explaining how they wrote the script. Also being factually wrong about the source material. I watched their previous work. There are interviews with the cast talking about the process. And none of this matters if the movie was good or bad. So I wouldn't put the blame solely on the studio. It was a team effort to produce this drivel. As a wise man said "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." or incompetence may I add. "My bad observation" - yes I know there are a lot of simpletons getting a lot of joy and satisfaction from blank statements as "movie bad". And a lot of viewer hungry reviewers ready to give it to them. Again that's not the main topic but something that you brought in the conversation. That's why I disregarded it.
@@ethanbank1 I would argue that you are the one struggling to stay on topic constantly steering the conversation and bringing points unrelated to it. The comment for the red carpet was to point out incompetence, mainly on the part of the writers. And the seeming pride of the end product - something I wouldn't expect from someone whose creative process was disrupted from the studio in a big way. If it was so egregious I would expect the creatives to express it in some way. Remember the whole Zac Snyder complaining and campaigning for the Justice League - Snyder cut? There are other instances of directors leaving projects like Scott Derrickson from Doctor Strange, Patty Jenkins form Thor, Edgar Wright from Ant-Man for example. Or maybe it was egregious meddling, but the creatives didn't care and rolled with it. Why? Maybe they didn't care to making a good movie. Or they are too incompetent to know what a good movie is? I would argue that everyone has plenty of stuff to care about daily. A lot of it is very serious stuff. And when someone goes to the cinema pays ticket and buys overpriced popcorn (or does does so for their entire family) usually expects to receive a good movie in return and escape their lives for a couple of hours. Not to receive the burden of caring about some arbitrary movie maker and how hard their job was. I produce stuff in my work every day. If it is bad and the client buying it complains they sure don't care how much sweat I poured into it or if my boss told me to make it that way. As it should be. Same goes for movie makers. All that matters in the end is the quality of the end product. And when I turn to a critic hoping to find out if it's worth my time and money I expect to find opinion backed by arguments. Not a story of studios bad - creatives good. "But reviewing these days goes beyond what you see and start blaming the people who made it.'" So people who made bad stuff should be exempt form criticism? Why wouldn't they carry responsibility for what they made? Because the studio forced them? - which I don't believe in this case. Just look at their great work until now: Morbius, Gods of Egypt, Dracula Untold. Plenty of dots to draw a line for the quality of their work. Or the studio meddled each and every time?
Not really. Jaws 4 had every advantage an 80s summer movie could have. An Oscar nominated actor, an experienced director who’d made at least one classic (the original Taking of Pelham 123), and the lead actress was the studio president’s wife, meaning a comparably bigger budget than most franchise films. For 1987 context, Jaws 4 had a bigger budget than Lethal Weapon, Dream Warriors, and Jason Lives combined. People bag on it because it’s phenomenally sloppy filmmaking by people that know how to do better, but you can tell don’t care and were in it for 2 months in the Bahamas on Universal’s dime.
@@bobcobb3654"Why are you bashing filmmakers? You don't know how hard it was to make Jaws 4 or whatever, the studio interference probably ruined the creatives vision" - Cowardly Chris Stuckman
I love how he doesn’t even realize that by refusing to review the movie and saying he wants to keep his channel positive, he’s inadvertently telling us how much he really really hates it
Exactly. It would be like introducing a friend group with “here is big dick Derrick, tall Tom and Jim.” By the fact you said nothing about Jim just say is you don’t really care for him.
and theres a difference between bashing a movie and giving constructive criticism, u can give constructive criticism, without it seeming like ur hating on it. idk how chris doesnt see that either, i missed the early days of this channel.
@@spikesya A coward? How? The quality of the movie becomes irrelevant beyond highlighting that this studio treats their creatives and their source material with no respect whatsoever. Directly criticising the studio responsible instead of the people who had practically no control over it is the opposite of cowardice.
“This will not be a review for Madame Web” … tells you everything you need to know. If it was a good movie he’d be gushing over it and suddenly it’s all about how awesome a job they did. But when it’s terrible “I’m not going to critique” Uhuh
OH GOD I remember that! How on almost EVERY video he "grew up" with something and how it was "constantly on repeat" on his house. This guy is such a fraud... he's a former Jehova's Witness who as a JW spent much of his time going door to door about it but he also apparently had enough time to grow up with every TV and film franchise around at the time. I am really starting to doubt this guy, he seems really shady!
"Hey guys, that dish you are making is a dish I grew up with, so I have a lot of personal nostalgia with it. I too want to become a chef, and I don't want to burn any bridges, so instead of criticizing your dish I'm just gonna suck you off. Courtesy of NordVPN"
I saw Kitchen Nightmares and I one episode Gordon kick out one of the owners of the restaurant. The people who was putting the money to make the food was the problem, his interference in the kitchen was ruining everything. So Ramsey call out the guy and kick out his ass. The same Chris is doing here. Call out the people who put the money and is ruining this movies by don't letting the people in production "cooking" with freedom.
I think he just doesn't have the ego to review bad movies harshly while also working in the industry since he's a newbie in the film industry. Compare to someone like Tarantino or Scorsese who have criticized tons of movies (particularly Marvel of course) but still managed to survive working in the industry because they have made tons of great movies before so it doesn't matter whether they criticized other movies or not as studio still want to work with them because of their massive experience in which Chris doesn't have that yet. At least that's how I see it 🤷
He explained why at the beginning. If he starts ripping on movies, especially by new writers and directors, how will he look if his movie sucks when it comes out? People will have ammo to come at him and call him a hypocrite etc.
Chris is like a journalist who can't report on a story because they have a vested interest in squashing it. He sold his integrity for a chance to be a Hollywood director by being a suck up.
@@unropednope4644 That does not mean he made the right decision, that just means hes not a confident filmmaker. Not being a confident filmmaker does not excuse you from being a bad critic.
If you won’t give a negative review your positive reviews are meaningless. In addition, If you place all then blame on the studio for a failure, you better give them all the credit for a masterpiece.
You're so wrong. First of all, it's not about not giving negative reviews. It's about not reviewing movies you don't like. How can you not get that? Jesus christ, dude. So what you're telling me is this: If I tell you my top 10 fav movies list, it's meaningless unless I also tell you my worst 10 movie list. Why would that be? It makes absolutely ZERO sense. My top 10 list is a damn good list of movies. You don't need to know that I hate Beyond Skyline (2017) to appreciate that I love Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings Trilogy. What the fuck are you talking about?
@@NebolI don’t know if you’re just too obtuse to get the point or if your histrionic anger is blinding you, but: we all understand what he’s saying. Do YOU understand that if we already know he only gives positive reviews then we already know what his verdict is and there’s not a lot of point in listening to his review - other than potentially some self-gratification to hear another fan praise a movie we want to like? 💁🏻♂️ Calm down - and think.
@@Nebol Well yes you do if you're a reviewer you trust on to tell you what's good or bad ffs, so if he doesn't review something i can assume it's shit? so he can review every release every day for every film? if you review films it's not always about the good you have to review the bad but since Chris has become a "writer/director" he thinks he's above reviewing films on TH-cam and again that's fine just close your account as a reviewer because you're clearly not what it says on the tin
He grew up and that boy became a man, a bad man, the kind of man we were warned about as kids, the one who offers sweets and a fun ride with the no consequences if we keep secrets and look away at things we are not meant to see or talk about with anyone. You either die a hero, or your live long enough to see yourself become the creepy guy in blacked out van type of villain.
Actually that would be better than bashing a bad movie which he doesnt want..... So i'm not sure why he doesnt go that way to stay as a critic cause right now his channel confuses me.
@@Vamatt99218 The thing is .... He's no longer a ((critic)) a critic would be critical of bad movies and even critique parts of good movies. He has basically said he only wants to be positive now. To me that just makes you a glorified paid shill movie reviewer. His reasoning is pathetic. Because he now knows the troubles and difficulties of making a movie. So he doesn't want say anything negative about other people's projects.🤦 Plenty of award winning directors have praised other people's work and have shat on other's work. Tarantino is one of them. Pretty sure he knows all the troubles and difficulties of making a movie.
Production studios and companies would like nothing more than everyone to adopt his mentality. Say nothing bad about our crappy products, only praise what you like. @WaltRight
VENOM had the writer from 50 SHADES OF GREY (who is also directing VENOM 3) MORBIUS had the writers from GODS OF EGYPT (Who are also behind MADAME WEB) And KRAVEN THE HUNTER has the writers from TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT AVI ARAD ruined everything again, just like he ruined TASM And he isn't even involved in MADAME WEB
Watch Venom 2 without the rose tinted glasses. The movie is horrible and a genuine embarrassment for Sony. People didn't speak up about how bad it was enough and still bought tickets, that's why Madam Webb and Morbius exist. Please call out bad movies even if you find something in it you can like@@solarflame-he6cw
so true. Ive only heard minor rumblings and whispers from people that somehow magically immediately disappear that sometimes studios interfere with movies in destructive ways. Somehow I think you find it a lot easier to believe this when it comes to movies with certain kinds of directors
I know he feels the way he does, but taking one terrible movie to task for its own major faults isn’t going to take away your “above-it-all, I’m-an-artist-too” understanding we have on the channel’s direction as is moving forward.
I gotta say, ever since Chris stopped doing negative reviews of bad films I pretty much abandon the channel for any actual movie reviews. It's nice to see some deserved negativity when it's called for. I never wanted Chris to become a hate watcher or film hater, but he really needs to restore some balance to the channel.
So why are you still here posting? His video here touches something no other has done. He explicitly tells you it is super easy to find regular reviews of this movie elsewhere, so instead he decided to do something different and that he feels, adds relavant extra discussion to the movie industry.
@@joebilly3719 I think it was a well done video but my point is the channel overall. It used to be my main review channel, now I stick with Jeremy Jahns. I miss the brutally honest reviews before Chris started playing it safe.
No, you just shouldn`t scream "Did your cook try to kill me?! Is he even a cook?! You should fire him and never let him cook in a restaurant again!" Mistakes get made.
@@DarthDoom-2014 Yes. Everyone makes mistakes. Thats what critics are for. To point out the mistakes, and give suggestions about how to do better next time. You can’t just give excuses. Which is literally what Chris did this whole video. He just gave excuses for everything.
@@BudJr Yes, I agree with you about critics being a help for storytellers to get better, but I I disagree with Chris just giving excuses for bad storytelling. He makes clear in the beginning off the video, that you can watch other videos for criticism of the movie, because he doesn`t talk about film criticism. He talks about movie studios beeing apathetic to writers, witch leads to movies like Madam Web. Sony is realy an ideal example for this problem. We know for YEARS that Sony doesn`t allow creativity in there movies. You can tell, because of how similar all there movies look and feel. He never talks about "criticizing is rude towards writers". He says, "studios interfere to much in the filmmaking process." Look at Sony, Disney, Marvel, Lucasfilm,...
If you want a critique of Madame Web, there are dozens of videos on TH-cam right now that does exactly that. I appreciate Chris's insight into the industry that keeps turning out such low effort movies like this one.
Yes but if youre trying to break into an industry, it’s best not to loudly and publicly criticize anyone, no matter how much grace and love is given, especially before you even make something worthwhile yourself… This is a smart move by Chris. Tina Fey said something similar on a podcast recently because of the Ayo Edebiri situation.
@@irwinsolano6635 good filmakers aren't born. It's a skill you learn. Do you really think that Tarantino's very first m0vie ever that he shot in his backyward was box office hit worthy?
This is just sad. How can anybody live like this, not ever being able to speak their mind because they're so terribly afraid somebody could be offended or it could damage their carreer.
When you enter the industry, you completely understand why. I’m not saying it’s right, but people have no idea how it works until you’re actually in it. People talk. That’s it.
No, he thinks it’s just a better use his time to discuss how the movie industry contribute to the suck. I mean there are hundreds if not thousand of rage bashing reviews of this move. A video trying to analyze how the crappy studio movie industry keeps creating these kind of movies is something worth more of everyone’s time
@dominiccourtois4415 Except he spends most of the video talking about how he made his own movie instead of actually talking about how the studios interfere and ruin creators. Of course, none of this actually matters. The creators are terrible and this movie would've been bad regardless. There's tons of movies that were butchered by studio interference, but he decides to white knight for the one movie with terrible creators, unenthusiastic actors, and an awful scripts. What a brave hero lol
@@dominiccourtois4415I agree with what you're saying but we all know the real reason why he's doing it. He doesn't say anything about any movie now that's bad the only reviews of movie if he likes it so he doesn't have to say anything negative but in the case of this when it was such a huge movie he had to review it so he chose to just give a non review which is even worse.
@@dominiccourtois4415Video literally starts saying ,"I don't know how hard it is to make a movie under studio system" and you are saying you liked it coz he is trying to discuss or analyze how the studio contributes on making worst movies. Since u liked what he is talking about can u explain how studio contributes to making the movie worse.
I was robbed at gunpoint once. But even though the outcome was so bad and I got robbed of my money, I'm not gonna talk about that. Instead, I'm going to focus on how much hard work that robber did. He had to buy the gun, dress in all black, wait for me in the bushes, summon up the courage to do it...I'm so proud of him after all the effort he went to.
I hope that guys like Chris stuckmann realise that they come off as pretentious twits when they say " oh, I am a film reviewer who is above film reviews".
this is not a madame web review, are you purposely dense? Everyone seems purposely dense in this comment section. There are a billion videos that are criticizing this movie already, there are a quintillion memes that even homeless bums who don't have a smartphone know about already, who will benefit if Chris just regurgitates what everyone is already saying? He said way more in this video than Jeremy Jahns has ever said in his entire pathetic youtube career with his cringe tequila glass and a bath-robe saying "uhh this scene happened and it was bad, but this scene happened and that was cool, but then that scene happened and that was uhhh... bad, please liek and subscribe" I think it's way more productive and interesting that he adresses the whole sony/hollywood conveyer belt garbage instead of regurgitating what everyone on planet earth already knows. The abundance of bad reviews for these types of movies are exactly why these types of movies are still being made. Bad reception is still reception, the reason this movie exists is solely because people kept talking about Morbius, if everyone had just kept their mouths shut, madame web wouldn't exist.
@@user-ly2ll5od1r finally some semblance of sense down here. the way entire "communities" are trying to nudge him back in a direction he's already done to death and no longer feels like doing is insane. it's literally cancel culture.
I remember reading an article in Premiere Magazine back in 1997. It was an article about the making of Good Will Hunting. Miramax was executive producing and Gus Van Sant was hired to direct. Harvey Weinstein brought on Lawrence Bender (Quentin Tarantino's producing partner) to basically keep Van Sant under surveillance and prevent him from doing whatever he wanted. I guess things were getting so bad with Lawrence that Van Sant finally confronted him and said directly to his face "You don't have a creative bone in your body and I just want to punch you!". I guess Bender backed off, and the film went on to become a critical success and win 2 Academy awards. This pops into my brain whenever I hear something like this - about studio Executives who feel like they need to micro-manage and interfere with every creative decision. We need more Gus Van Sants.
Speaking of Gus Van Sant, what has he been doing lately? Last time he made a movie was 2018 with Joaquin Phoenix and Rooney Mara that gain a critical success, I wonder where is he now
@@Erasureeraser excellent question! He's currently co-directing and executive producing a television anthology for FX called Feud: Capote vs. The Swans, created by Ryan Murphy and starring Naomi Watts, Demi Moore and Chloe Sevigny. It's not by any means a theatrical movie, but it's work nonetheless. Hope he makes a return to making proper films one day, but when you've been in the game for more than 30 years, a bit of a break is always welcome. Have a nice day!
a film that struggled to find a festival for its premiere and a distributor... I think he is scared to be critical because he knows he can't make anything but steaming shit himself
Not saying how bad it is actually speaks volumes to how bad it is, more than saying how bad it is would actually express. It’s like a horror movie monster obscured in shadow - the less detail you see, the more work your imagination does, and the more horrific it feels.
Have RLM actually made a movie, though? Because they best known for known for b*tching about modern Star Wars and modern Star Trek as opposed to you know, creating anything.
@@TravisKlappe-TheRealRedHood Er no, he isn't. He got his start with negative review about the Dragon Ball movie. But he eventually evolved beyond that, but RLM, haven't evolved at all.
I love the story of Blazing Saddles... the studio told Mel Brooks that he had to cut virtually everything out of the movie that made it great. He listened to them, then almost completely ignored them because his contract said he had the final say. That's the reason we got one of the greatest comedies of all time.
chris, you are a movie "critic". you can still appreciate the hard work and passion that went into a movie without needed to tip toe around the bad quality of products.
How is "you know it's not worth even making a review of this movie but I have a different topic I can use this as a gateway to make a video" tiptoeing about the movie being bad? What he's implying here, which should be obvious is that of course he didn't like it, but he had nothing new to add on that front and in fact he disliked it so much it sparked an idea for a much better and more valuable video... How is that not critical enough?
Isn’t the “challenge of making a movie” true with any movie in existence? They’re all challenging and many put effort into them. If you can’t criticize a movie for being a bad film because “people worked hard on it”, then there ARE NO BAD MOVIES!
It's not the only thing he said. He also mentioned the behind the scene hustle that's happening and that we should show them what YOU want with your dollars. Unfortunately, judging by these comments, it's a bunch of "bots" afraid to have their own opinion. They would rather be told what to like, go along with others, and hop online to join the dumpster fire. That's not showing or proving anything. So, on goes the show...rinse and repeat.
Yeah, that line in the beginning about him having the privilege of making an indie film and not being "under the studio system...." I mean, whoever made or worked on Madame Web, could easily make an indie movie or go back to to indie scene. They surely have the know how and know enough people. Instead, they decided to work for company X and follow their guidelines or whatever. Nobody forced them to do anything. That part was just weird.... as if people earning millions for working in a system they picked.... are a victim or have way way more difficulties compared to starters trying to or making an indie movie from scratch... come on....
@@zod4365he mentioned the fanfiction going on behind the scenes in his own mind. He is doing the wussification thing : shit on the movie, but blame it on faceless nameless corporation overlords in black suits forcing directors, actors and writers to make bad movies. What a wussy. Just call out the BAD writing, BAD acting and BAD directing. Newsflash : if an actors performance is cringe and the dialog is bad, the blame goes to the Writer, Director and Actor. Not Mr. sony Studios Handler man in sunglasses forcing an actress to do a bad job and forcing a writer to write poorly or a director to ignore the asinine dialog and cringe acting. This is the kind of video you make when you are afraid of being blacklisted, which is odd, as I could see blacklisted occurring more from blaming the “studio” and letting the talent and creatives 100% off the hook in order to satisfy a fanfiction in hour own bloated head.
It's true of almost everything in life. Building a house is difficult, but refusing to be critical of a shoddily designed house because one fears they may be ostracized from the carpentry business would be instantly laughed at & rightly labelled as pure cowardice.
It's his pretentiousness that really made me stop enjoying his content. Dude made a low budget movie and thinks he's a big shot. He's a TH-camr that made a movie and not the other way around
@danielsliwa1045. Yeah the moment Chris started to change was when he decided to not do a Worst Movies Of The Year list, I forget what year that was, maybe 2018?. Then when Covid hit he just flat out stoped reviewing movies he felt was going to be bad.
@@diogoredes But it used to be. Chris was a movie reviewer from about 2011 up until 2018 ish, and was an entertaining one. It was around 2018 ish that Chris decided to not do anymore Worst Movie Of The Year lists because Chris started to think that bashing directors and writers wasn’t right, even though Chris should know that no one should ever be exempt from criticism. And about the time Covid hit Chris started to not review any movie he felt was going to be bad.
He can, but he already explained why he instead would focus on positive things. The internet has become a sess pool of exaggerated criticism and negativity, there are full channels almost fully dedicated to that, the critical drinker style, and they do that because they know drama and polemic draws a lot of attention, it generates clicks. Put a "it is trash", "killing our childhood heroes, "woke garbage" in cap and yellow in your thumb and get a tons of clicks. Instead of this, Chris decided to focus more on the possitive aspects and the things he really loves, and to help smaller or less well known movies and creators. And Chris know that, due to that, due to not appealing to our natural drive for drama and polemic, he would loose clicks and money, and yet decided to do it anyway because he rather do what he loves. He stills does criticism, this entire video is pointing problems in the industry, but he did so without curse and buzz words, without making a fuzz about it. If, after knowing all this, you still rather watch exaggerated content made to feed of polemic, rather than nuansed and calm discussion, go watch things like critical drinker and get out of here.
@@pcb1175apparently in an interview the director said that was one of her favorite songs and a fond memory growing up on that period of time... So maybe the writers did it to appease the director.
I miss hilariocity reviews... Up until 2017 this channel was golden with the bad and good reviews, but the bad ones had a special place in my heart. TH-cam really isn't what is used to be.
@@Anthonycheesman2024 so because we have millions of videos on how the Nazis were wrong we should have videos being positive about them? Maybe there is a lot of negativity….. cause it’s bad.
I have respected Chris a lot over the years. I wish him the best on Shelby Oaks. But I REALLY hate how he’s become so pro-director/writer and so anti-studio and tries so hard not to burn any potential bridges with people he knows in the entertainment industry that he now totally omits the fact that some directors and writers, no matter how nice they may be as people, can make a product that is *gasp* BAD. Sony deservedly is to blame for pitching these terrible, half-baked Spider-Man spin-offs in the first place. However, let’s not forget that they, along with Disney and other big studios nowadays, are also responsible for consistently hiring people with not-so-good track records in Hollywood to helm turds like Venom, Morbius, Madame Web, and (I think it’s a safe bet) Kraven the Hunter.
Its pretty easy tell what is actually going. You want to get into the film industry and you're afraid if you are critical of their work, they won't call you back. Well they won't call you back if they don't respect you. Nobody respects a critic that refuses to be critic. Good luck funding that next film without an audience.
"i used to criticize my politicians and my government for their shitty policies. But now that i myself am running for office, ive realised how hard it is to be a politician. Therefore i shall never criticise my opponent even if they do something that straight up insults the concept of democracy JUST because theyre also a politician. Like me. I hope that the next time i fuck up no one criticises me as well" This is how you sound like, Chris.
So what? He's wrong to want to move on with his life, do something else? He would be a hypocrite if he still reviewed movies as a critic. He wants to be a paid filmmaker, and he just spent 16 minutes spilling crap to the people he hopes will hire him one day.
@@biscuitboi9478 You are here to watch someone bashing movie not critism. You are just hater. He point out where Sony put a Pepsi logo on final fight scene. No writer will write that a fight in front of Pepsi logo. In remi spiderman movie sony included venom, George lucas, Cappola, Scorcase said many time studio tried to ruin their flims. It is what Chris just said. You maybe were here to watch someone else getting insulted.
@@edwardrichtofen8530 The comment is sponsored by Sony. So you were the guy who laughed at Dc after they casted Heath ledger for joker and Robert Pattinson as batman. You just want people down because you boss rips you down on regular basis on your shifty job, your friend treat your like trash. Now you want see other people getting ready shitty treatment . Normie 🍵
You can give a negative movie review without bashing people. Everyone that works on movies works hard but some people just really suck at it. Stating that fact is not bashing.
I don't understand the notion that the film industry is above harsh criticism. The world has enough slackers, scammers, and politicians, Chris, we don't need you to follow in their footsteps.
He literally said like 2 years ago that he's not interested in trashing movies like this anymore and wants to go on a different, more positive direction but sure go ahead
@@zod4365I did. He only blames Sony as the big bad guy. But the writers have a horrible track record. That's not Sony's fault. The director is incompetent. This is their first feature length film. It's amateurish as hell. Not Sony's fault. The acting sucked. Everyone is phoning it in. Not Sony's fault. I can go on and on.
Just a thought. If we are supposed to see and pay for movies that are good, doesn’t that mean we need honest critiques about both good AND bad movies, so we know which ones to see and which to avoid? I don’t see a negative review as a bad thing. It’s necessary thing to make sure the future has more good ones.
criticism isn’t a bad thing in itself. Refusing to criticize anything constructively is flat out wrong. You’re literally a movie CRITIC, so either critique or don’t.
This just had me thinking about my favorite movie Se7en. The studio had more uplifting ending for that movie initially but sent David Fincher the wrong script which contained the shocking ending we ultimately got. When the studios refused to go for it, Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman (along with Fincher) stepped in and said they go with the dark ending or they won’t do the movie at all. We got a memorable ending because the cast and crew fought for it.
@@jameswilliams-zr8cothe assembly cut of Alien 3 is quite good and you can see Fincher's talent. Fox and the producers didn't know what they wanted. One of the scripts had Ripley landing on a planet made of wood inhabited by space monks. They were sometimes giving him script pages on the day of the shoot.
Let’s also remember that _Snakes on a Plane_ was the *working* title, but when the filmmakers began to consider changing the title, Sam Jackson told them he would _walk off the project_ unless they kept the title. History was made and we received that immaculate film with that _perfect_ title.
@@TimmyJay-uk6nr unironically - the more you avoid something, the more likely you are to get it. Not to mention Meet Doug Walker. He is the guy that is made fun of a lot of time: From the way how his youtube personality is like, from crappy business practices and responce that his company gave, to those practices (in fact for the last one he is still not forgiven and actually, this is one of the reasons, why a lot of people wouldn't like to be associated with him) and of course for his reviews themselves (not to mention movies, but that's a wormhole for another time). Guess what he does? Laughs along, because as he himself said "Wouldn't that be hypocritical, if I were offended, by "Oh those people make fun of my art", when my entire career launched, because of me making fun of others art".
Don't you have an entire series called "hilarocity" where you essentially laugh at bad movies. It's OK to call something bad, bad. I don't gaf how "tis so sad for the nepobaby Hollywood film maker who got paid a fortune and works for a billion dollar studio"
@@darkfire7660 That explains why I haven't been watching Stuckman for the past few years. Holy hell, I've tried watching a few other videos. It's so sanitized and boring. He has gone way too deep into the "I'm a filmmaker too, I would be devastated if people made fun of my movie so I"m never, ever laughing at another persons garbage" hole.. hope he comes to his senses. The nepobabies in hollywood will be fine if we laugh at their horrible decisions.
Yeah I don't get it either, he reviewed The Phantom Menace, his 'worst' film ever, a movie with infinitely more original ideas, music and better visuals (even though it's still a dogshit movie) than Madame Web. But Madame Web he refuses to dissect, i just don't get it
@@3choblast3r4 Stuckmann is a hack. He always was, but he's less subtle about it now. If you actually watch the movies he reviews, you'll realize pretty quickly that a chunk of his complaints in the reviews don't really hold water. He only half pays attention because he's busy scribbling down notes to put in his review, misses exposition, then complains about things that were cleared up in the exposition he missed. He pretty much always took the "safe" (popular) opinion on movies, especially blockbusters. The nonsense he came up with to explain why he liked Episode 1 as a kid but not as an adult was peak popularity-surfing. "It was 'cause, y'know, it was a new Star Wars movie and we just loved Star Wars. It took years for us to finally realize it was, y'know, bad! I call it being Phantom Menaced!" And a few weeks later he's riding Disney's D with Episode 7 even though it's half as good as 1. He claims to be a fan of films and series he demonstrably hasn't seen. He got the murderer for Friday the 13th wrong, even though it was a classic twist to a classic horror film. The fact he thinks he can make quality movies when he can't even make quality reviews is just who Stuckmann is.
Ur missing the point jackass. It’s like if a talented semi famouschef got hired/signed a deal to make recipes and signature dishes, for say, a commercial chain restaurant, and the chef then proceeds to showcase all these well crafted signature dishes, and the CEOs, people who have no idea about food, and just money say, ya know what, we don’t like that. Please do something more like this, and use these ingredients instead, and this and that, etc.
@@PetProjects2011 that is the same thing 😂 It's all about taste and opinion. You can have a critic eating some random disgusting trash and saying it's good because its unique and has a particular taste because some chef made it and they are just pretentious. There's chefs that don't critique others foods because it wouldn't be fair. There's critics that just judge things on what they like and enjoy, without looking at the dumb presentation and difficulty to make the food, giving a nice fried chicken a better score than some escargot with sauce from baby albino goat and hand picked berries from the mountaintops of Mt everest during a blood moon on the date 6/6/66. And then there's normal people that eat normal stuff and know what they enjoy and is what makes the 99.99% of the profits of restaurants. Then there's madame web, a piece of 2$ raw meat, served while the feminist banshees "sing" to you by screaming like crazy people, while plopping red paint from their vaginas (yes. The feminist banshees that scream like crazy people is real. Yes, the feminist "artists" that make "art" by putting paint in their vaginas and then letting it plop on the ground on top of a canvas, is real as well).
@@bozzutoman This video is him bashing the type of entities that would sign his check, so that doesn’t add up. He just doesn’t like to bash fellow moviemakers.
This is why movies suck now. Filmmaking has become one big circle jerk where nobody who wants to be part of the industry is allowed to speak their mind and say “Wow! That movie absolutely sucked”. As long as people in the industry keep burying their heads in the sand and pretending that audiences are to blame for not liking shoddy movies the industry will continue to burn.
Chris Stuckmann: 0:20 "Since I do try to keep it mostly about film celebration on this channel" 0:28 "I am not about bashing filmmakers/artists" Also Chris Stuckmann: Has a series of videos called "Hilariocity Review" in which he does nothing but bash filmmakers/artists. Admit it, you think you just might have a chance at Hollywood, so you don't want to risk losing it by being honest with your reviews anymore. You're a sellout, that's all you are now.
and thats exactly his point? that he is trying to make it into hollywood and will do anything for that even becoming fake, putting as many sponsors/ads, and filtering his content to please hollywood critics/producers/directors. @@TimmyJay-uk6nr
No sh*t Sherlock. He made a video specifically stating why his views have changed and why his reviews would change. Now irrespective of whether it’s out of genuine pity for other filmmakers or trying to look good for the studios (I think it’s fairly obvious it’s a mix of both) he made it damn clear previously. I wish Chris was a little bit more gutsy with his takes nowadays, but the guy is trying to pursue his real dreams and if part of that means softening his channel in regards to critical reviews, so be it. I still enjoy his old reviews and retrospectives.
It sounds like corporate that watch One Piece but still somehow doesn't understand the appeal and just rip the idea without effort, not remembering where they got that "idea" in the first place.
"I would urge you not just to read good books, read terrible books too - because they can be more inspiring than the good books... A genuinely helpful reaction to something you’re reading is I could write this s***. That is immensely liberating.” Alan Moore - imparting sage advice I think you could say the same with movies
And that's never been helpful, especially with how subjective people's opinions on media is. Plus making something better than an infamously bad story isn't really something to brag about. It's like being better at math than a kid with Down's Syndrome.
Tbh tbat sounds gold on paper but depressing the moment you realize its not "anyone" just a small group that can get away with being trash at their fields and even being recognized and or phraised for it cause you know..."connections"
"One of the things that gave me the most confidence in trying to make a film was seeing all the lousy films that I saw. Because I sat there and thought, "Well, I don't know a goddamn thing about movies, but I know I can make a film better than that"." - Stanley Kubrick
@@carncats07 what you're referencing is the reason he stopped criticizing anything lmao. he was so mind f**ked by the mockery of his batman v superman rewrite that his balls shrank i.e. his self confidence and "edge." i thought he sucked even when he would bash movies because he always tried to critique the logic of plots, but he was really bad at it. He was so arrogant and self deluded he thought he could write a better scene than whoever wrote bvs. he learned he wasn't one of the Coen's lost brother, threw a hissy fit in an attempt to save face, went soft and the rest is history.
This is like the biggest trauma dump I’ve ever seen regarding a film that just released. It’s as if Chris has felt rejected or discarded in the past in his own life or his experience with movies that now he’s projecting his own experiences on to the filmmakers of Madame Web. My dude, it’s not that complicated to explain how a film like this could’ve been made. You have to look at the perspective of their studio and their filmmakers within the parameters of just this movie alone to get an accurate perspective on it. Instead, you’re basing your views on assumptions most likely from your own experiences and expecting people to feel engaged or related to. This is the most “non-review” movie review I’ve ever seen.
Chris one of the reasons some films are so bad is that for some reason we refuse to give creators criticism. Constructive criticism should be welcomed and maybe even required. With out it we'll keep getting subpar movies etc. I don't know why we've strayed away from providing criticism.
Yeah. That is hardly a reason. I don’t see how it’s about creators not receiving criticism. Like in what reality do we think these creators have too much freedom to do what they want even if the idea is terrible and no one is telling them their ideas suck? Mind you they literally got the scripts from the Morbius guys and they ain’t ever made a movie anyone has liked yet somehow has not impacted their ability to get work, it has not stopped studios from trusting them with this mid sized budgets. We not gonna sit here and say that it was the lack of critique that produced madame web. Like how many times have people gone in on Sony? And they don’t seem to be getting any better. So who is this dog and pony show for?
@@birdiewolf3497 I think two things can be true at the same time. It can be both studio control and not providing creators with constructive criticism.
this whole comment section is constructive criticism of a TH-cam creator but you think the problem is creators not receiving constructive criticism?? Film, TH-cam, whatever, artists/creators face far FAR more criticism now than literally any other time.
@@MrRjsnowden I just don’t see how that is really happening. I mean first off there are tons of reviews of madame web from both professionals and amateurs. Where is this refusal to give creators criticism coming from? Where are you seeing this deficit? I personally think if we want to talk about the state of criticism I think it makes more sense to discuss the polarization. You have those that just want to hate the work, and those that swear blind allegiance to work. And everyone hates the people in the middle and no one wants to listen to them. There is also the fact that creatives insulate themselves amongst those that swear their blind allegiance, so they never really need to grow or change. There is just too much access to everyone thoughts and opinions. Anything constructive gets lost in the sea of nonsense. It’s just so funny because I follow this one lady that talks pop culture and pop music and it’s hilarious to see her get dragged for being a stan or a hater for the same artist on a given day. She’ll highlight their strengths and call out their weaknesses and people genuinely struggle to comprehend it and it doesn’t make her popular. So we don’t need more criticism. I think we just need more people to shut the fuck up. I think if we stopped people from trying to fit in and impress their side, it would give space for more balanced voices to thrive. And if the creative couldn’t rely on their cult to make them feel better about their work, they might push themselves to do better.
@@needlessmoose8055 Exactly! Like I’m looking around like is there somehow a lack of criticism being launched at Madame Web? I’m very confused. It would be one thing if you couldn’t find many reviews on this film and Chris came in with this. But the facts most of the folks in the comments already knew the movie was bad or assumed the movie was bad, and wanted the man to come out and participate in this ritualistic dunking on the film. And he didn’t see the point in that, especially if he didn’t really have any particular insights about the film to share with the class.
I don't understand the strange need to defend the writers and directors , and somehow blaming the studio for things being bad. The team of writers, the directir are those that failed. Now the studio is partialy the blame too , because they okeyed it. But the people on team have either no history of good results of their work, or are consecutive flops.
You're right, I seen other independent critics and fan channels discussing way more information about how bad Hollywood and Western media industry has fallen. More than what Chris talk about how terrible Sony is managed, that just the tip of the iceberg. We, the audience, are on a lifeboat seeing the Titanic sinking with the movie studios, directors, writers, and so on suck on board arguing among themselves who at fault.
@@davidthirugnanakumar7888The original script idea wasn’t even that much better to begin with this was a bad idea from the start. It could have maybe be salvaged but it’s obvious that the team gave up on the film.
Wow you sold out. Too scared to criticize a film? The actors sucked the writing sucked and the overall directing was bad. Definitely gonna lose more subscribers for chasing the money.
@@everythingisawesome2903 ooo wow damn yeah I just unsubscribed. He's literally doing what every woke person in Hollywood does. Sells himself to get recognition/fame/ money/ opportunity
@@ModerateLeftist89 my metaphor is, if you're a restaurant owner and you go and eat at someone else's restaurant and the food is bad, then it shouldn't be recommended, doesn't matter how hard the cooks work in the back. We don't eat food thinking how hard someone worked on it, we can only see and judge what's in front of us. Doesn't make you negative, a hater, or bitter if you dislike something.
This is the most 'nothing' commentary I've seen on a movie. You've become an apologist for screenwriters and directors the world over, demonizing studio execs and refusing to acknowledge creative shortcomings wherever they're prevalent.
So, my take away from this is, if this was a good movie, he would be praising it, but because he is making excuses to stay away from saying its bad, then he must have thought it was really bad. I wonder if when he gets a bad meal at a restaurant he says, "Well, my steak was poorly cooked, and the waitress was very unattentive, but they worked really hard, so i forgive them. "
Yeah, he talked a lot, without saying much. What he said isn't wrong, probably, but talking about a movie, without talking about a movie, and the video's title is he has to talk about this (without talking about it), is kind of a joke, right? I heard elswhere this "review" would be interesting, that's the only reason I came back here. They didn't lie, and I even did learn something. How NOT to talk about something. To be fair, this could be just the beginning, but after that a "real" review should follow. Otherwise it's a big nothing-burger...
@@aviergaz1199 when i subbed to this channel was because of movie reviews. Bait and switch? Its like going to McDonald's to get a BigMac, but they serve you vegan pizza instead
This feels unnecessary and counter productive. Yes, there’s dozens of reasons why things go wrong that extend beyond some fundamental misunderstanding on a person’s part. There’s 100s of people involved in films and it’s a miracle anything ever gets finished. That means those people deserve to get a paycheck, but that doesn’t mean the miracle is good or worth watching. Someone at Sony had the authority to look at this *shit*, and say “good enough”, and undermines all the effort these people you want to be friends with put in. It needs to be pointed out. If these people are taking it personally that is either their problem, or a good incentive to do better.
Years ago Chris posted a video saying he wanted to change the “vibe” or style of his channel. I remember he said something akin to negative reviews slowly affecting his love to movies or something like it and that he felt it would be better to focus on good and positive reviews. Not ignoring that bad movies exist, but acknowledging that it’s way more important to give proper attention and feedback to good ones rather than Millions of views in shit talking a movie and be negative about it, giving it more attention. I like this personality, imo we should be more like that. Like, Madame Web and Morbius shouldn’t have been NEARLY talked as much as they did. Not to mention the amount of TH-camrs getting on the that view train is insane.
@@Trazynn Cant read eh? So you just make it up. Must've been a lot of words to call like 5 comments "every video". Used to say positive things till I realized these werent actually movie critique. Glad Im less associated with his dullard base now.
If you see BS happening, nothing wrong with calling it out
He is afraid of critics calling out his own shortcomings in film making.
Unless you're a fraud like Chris Struckmann.
Exactly. Well said@@Artemise7799-cg8pg
And there are more thoughtful or actual detailed ways to go about it that are even semi contructive beyond “worst movie ever” to every new movie or “shit” “trash” , etc.
@@Artemise7799-cg8pg He sounds like a s**tty film maker then and he knows it
There's a difference between bashing creators and criticizing art.
Chris bashed movies and directors in the past. That will never be forgotten!
Ya but even when you do that they bash viewers anyways. So fk them.
Chris has been neutered ever since he announced he was making a movie. It's sad watching him talk about movies since then because he's absolutely terrified of saying anything bad because he wants no criticism coming his way. So thin skinned.
You can't be criticizing movies or any work if you are working in the same field
If Chris has a conflict of interest then either give up being a film maker or give up TH-cam with a channel around movies.
Its funny how Dakota Johnson was a harsher critic of her own movie than Chris Stuckmann
Because he's not criticising the movie but the studio and the overall industry's behaviour of which the movie is a mere symptom.
@@dekai7992 So he's avoiding criticizing every aspect. He'll criticize the studios but not the creatives, which comes off as hypocritical considering he views himself as a creative. He neglects to mention that in some cases, (particularly in the case of Madame Web) it's the writers and directors who arethea problem not solely the studio.
@@65firered You new to the channel? He made a video years ago saying he'd be moving away from the overly negative reviews.
@@LaMereACanicheIf regular criticism is overly negative to him, no wonder he can't review bad movies. But no that was why I unsubscribed, to begin with, he traded in his ability to honestly and openly critique movies for Hollywood points.
@@dekai7992 Sony hands those people the money and let them do whatever they want, they don't really care and they don't interfere, not alike Chris suggested in this video with his metal gymnastics, the people behind the sonyverse movies are actually REALLY bad at making movies, just horrible, and they should be roasted for very consistently delivering bad content.
But does he know how hard it is to run a movie studio? How dare he bash them, they are just people who have to answer to investors. Imagine all the stress they are under.....
Underrated comment here
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Criticism isn’t a personal attack.
And he never said it was. I’m fact, the video is criticism towards the practices of major studios that result in garbage like Madame Web. But keep crying about it not just being another “Madame Web bad” video.
@@nickward230lol, you missed the bigger picture buddy
Yeah he's a joke
@@paundrabima5362 you clearly missed the bigger point. Stuckman made critiques in this video. He just decided he isn’t going to tell you what not to see anymore, but he would rather suggest what you should see. It’s silly one guy decides not be among the small army of people bashing this film and suddenly he is a hack?
@@majorlazor5058 He is not a hack, but if you are just going to be toxic positive you are really not a critic anymore. If he does not want to ever criticize bad movies because he is now in the biz, he should end this channel, because it is dishonest.
If you don't critique the movie, then how will they ever learn?
He's criticizing Sony that's alot better then going after one movie he Hates the movie but he Hates Sony more for making it I think that's pretty Badass to go Sony like this
@@rustyshackleford6035I swear this is the only reasonable and sane comment I’ve found so far
By you and many others, not buying a ticket to see it
@@rustyshackleford6035 How is it badass when everyone has been complaining about sony for years?
Tbf this movie isn't just badly written
I dont think that a bad review would have been as destructive as what Chris is talking here. He sounds like a disappointed dad.
It’s funny because he once did a Fant4stic review it was hilarious and he was all ranty about it, obviously now he has to be more cautious with what he says since he’s in the business. I don’t mind it though he took a more passive aggressive approach which is more like trolling and that’s great too
Chris grew up with Madame Web 🕸️
@@Nicholas_Chen_a few years ago, once he officially became a filmmaker himself, he announced that he’s no longer going to bash movies or grade them.
It's the first time I've ever seen him say anything bad about anything
It really sucks that he refuses to say anything negative about a movie anymore. BUT this is his unnecessarily polite way of saying Madame Web sucks
What?
Okay.
1. Criticism is not bashing.
2. Putting effort into something does not make the creator or the product immune to criticism.
Amen to that just saw it for the first time and hopefully last time yesterday when it first came out my friends saw said it was not worth it i was like i will bench it no way it is that bad bro birds of prey as horrible as it is compare this it is like Shawshank redemption
How to say "Madame Web sucks" without saying "Madame Web sucks"
Say that the movie made you call betterhelp.
I mean i have deep respect for Chris taking this side. It's super easy to trash and make fun of this stuff. Nor should I or anybody else resent you on doing so. You spent the money and the time to see it
But i respect Chris for looking at the bigger picture and understanding that this was a good example of the studio not giving a shit and screwing over the filmmakers, actors, and others behind this film
Chris fell off as a movie reviewer, he does the most barebones reviews now and he doesn’t even point out negatives… when Penguin0, someone who isn’t a movie reviewer, makes much better and more professional movies review than Chris, you know he’s fell off.
@@skippythealien9627well he’s doing it mainly because he made a movie so he doesn’t want to be too harsh on anything, its a bit cowardice imo and i don’t think you can do both things at the same time
@@TairiqueTurayfor real. Just because you’re a filmmaker doesn’t mean there aren’t terrible films that deserve to be criticized
Sanctimony here. Something should not be free of criticism because someone worked hard on it. That can be said for nearly any movie.
I agree and to add my problem with Madame Web, it feels like much of production didnt work hard on it. It's not something like The Room/Niel Breen where they tried but lack of skill/talent makes it bad and wrong while still comically watchable. Madame Web is clearly a cash grab to keep the license, but, it feels like the once all the spiderman actors didn't want to appear everyone just did one take, one edit, one draft, ADRd some lines and called it a day. These are supposed to be professionals with the intent of solely to entertain the audience and nothing else. Even Morbius tried to be something despite Sonys intent and that's why it's laughed at, because it's awful, Leto is trying here, the writers tried to make something interesting and it isn't, the CGI artists tried to make their work watchable. Madame Web just didn't try in almost all levels and that's why it should be bashed.
I definitely agree with you but Madame web, it felt like no one tried.
Look at the Island of Dr. Moreau
criticism is the only way people get better
@@Deagnetic Yes, I think Chris is wrong that everyone in the industry *always* works hard and therefore you shouldn't crap on a movie just because it turns out shitty. A movie like this deserves to be shit on unless you want them to keep putting out the same effortless cash grabs. He mentions that the writers of this and Morbius were probably dealing with tons of studio interference, but who knows if that's actually true? What if the writers also put in zero effort themselves? Then they would deserve criticism just as much as the studio.
But even if it's true that the writers' hands were tied by the studio, then you should be criticizing the studio itself for making such a shitty movie (I realize that's essentially what he did here, but it's obviously not just the studio itself that caused this). Just because *some* of the people involved *might* have been making an effort doesn't mean that everyone was, and the only thing we get to see is the final product, which was bad - thus, the product itself deserves criticism. Hell, you don't even need to point fingers at the actual writers or actors; you can just say that the writing itself was poor, the dialogue was poor, the CG was poor, etc., and it doesn't matter whose fault it actually was. That way, you're just criticizing the movie itself and not just shitting on some random individuals who were involved with it - which is really how Chris should be doing it.
To be fair to Chris, he's right that plenty of other reviewers will shit on the movie - but that shouldn't preclude him from just telling the truth about how he feels. It almost seems like he's "lying by omission" by trying to avoid certain topics of discussion. It's just kinda weird and seems a bit disingenuous - I know he genuinely doesn't want to bash anyone, but it still comes across as a bit disingenuous to the viewer. This sort of video is something you'd expect to see from one of the actors in the movie, not a third-party, unbiased reviewer.
It's just weird to see Chris doing this. He's admitted that it's partly because he's afraid that if he shits on certain movies/people, he might not get to work with them in the future, so this is basically just being done out of fear. If that's the case, he should just stop being a movie reviewer, honestly.
I stopped watching a little while ago because it just got kinda boring. This is the first video of his that I've seen in like 5 months, and now I remember why I decided to stop watching. It's unfortunate, because he was one of my faves for a long time.
This video was essentially just trying to explain why he stopped being "negative," and the reason is basically "everyone's hands are tied by the studio, and therefore..." Therefore what? Therefore you're going to avoid criticizing movies altogether? I get that he's trying to be different, and I sometimes enjoy hearing people gush about great movies, but that gets pretty boring pretty quick. Also, I just want to hear about what you thought of the movie - it can be negative or positive, but just fuckin tell me about what you, Chris Stuckmann, thought of the movie. I think that's generally what most people who watch movie reviewers want to hear, for better or worse. That's what movie reviewing IS.
@@byronhotchkiss3254 You're right. But I think most people don't want constructive criticism, which is the one that does what you mentioned. People want critics who bash bad films, who are "brutally honest" and it's not because this is a way to snap them out to make better films, it's because a rant or an insulting type of review is more cathartic and entertaining for them.
-So Chris, what did you think about Madame Web?
"I refuse to speak poorly about a film- all films have good and bad parts and essentially every film made is not only a challenge to make under any circumstances, but a subjective piece of art."
-Completely understandable Chris, a very commendable response. Can you at least talk a little about your favorite part of the film?
"this interview is over."
It was a movie that was directed, had actors and actresses in it. Also there was a script. There were some scenes and it also had dialogue in it.
LOL
@@TibiConstantinethered a script? They not improvised the whole thing while on mushrooms?
What were the good parts of Madam Web Chris?
Chris - Well the movie had a budget and was shown in theaters. I loved the idea of the film existing . I appreciate it so much as a "filmmaker".
How many films have you made so far?
Chris - Just one. No one has seen it. But I appreciate so much. I am a film maker now.
You, and everyone else who upvoted your comment, haven't even watched the video you're criticizing. 🤦♂️
How pathetic.
Why is telling the truth "bashing the filmmaker"? If the movie sucks just say so. Thats your job as a reviewer. All movies should be treated the same.
Dude.....he is telling the truth. You're telling me Madame web wasn't studio controlled? Of course it was. It's obvious. What he isn't going to do is turn into one of those bate channels that only bash movies. Whether good or bad. It's a sign of actual maturity that he isn't tearing it apart. even at the end he says "speak with your wallet ' which is more than a clear indicator that if we want these types of movies to stop we got to stop giving studios the money to make them.
@@rogueguardian Directors, writers and actors play a huge part in the success of a movie. If he blames only the studio for a failure then he needs to credit them and only them for successes. It would be hypocritical to not do that.
PS: He isn't going to do that. He is going to praise director, writers and actors when they do good. Guaranteed.
@@karaokehammick5215 Thanks for calling out his hypocrisy
Thanks for calling out his hypocrisy
After this, it's evident that Sony Pictures has 0 regard for script quality when it comes to these live action films, hiring the Gods of Egypt duo not once but TWICE. They really are hell-bent on taking Spider-Man to the grave.
At least they're doing right by the animated Spiderverse version (the best one imo).
Chris grew up with Madame Web 🕸️
@@colbystearns5066 Credit Lord and Miller for that!
I didn't know that's who wrote it 😂
Maybe they should stop working with Avi Arad
Remember when Sonic the Hedgehog’s trailer released? The design was horrendous. Intense criticism followed.
Caused the creators to rethink some things.
Design was changed, now the films are far more appreciated and appealing.
Criticism is needed. Causes people to change, sometimes for the better.
I started a new business, faced criticism for my running of said business at the beginning of its formation. I listened, was humble, and took the criticism. It’s now more successful than I imagined.
Films (like many things) need to be criticized. Helps them become better if the creative team and studios behind them are humble enough to accept it.
That's a dumb comparison though, the Sonic movies still have a lot of issues. Fans were literally so shallow they thought the movies were good because they changed Sonic's design
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69they’re not masterpieces, but they’re fun. You’re not going to make a movie based on a super fast Hedgehog incredibly engaging and intense.
They changed the design when there was an outcry for a change, and it was for the better in the long run. For the studio, and people who like the films.
@@sharktoof1 I'm expecting halfway accurate movies that don't have awful, cringey humor. Detective Pikachu was everything that movie wasn't yet it's not the one that got all the attention.
Yes, because Sonic fans are apparently really easy to please, fans in general will see Mario in a realistic field and want the guy that made it to be hired by Nintendo. So of course they think the bare minimum is "listening to fans" when even as a casual non-fan I can see glaring inaccuracies with the source material. Like Pachacamac is alive in the Knuckles show for fuck's sake, but y'all nutride them because they made Sonic less ugly. It's some faux-anticorporate bullshit.
Your comment deserves more like bro
@@JohnAdamFTEC No he doesn't
It’s irrelevant how difficult it is to make a film. If it’s bad, it’s bad. If it’s good, it’s good. Sony torpedoed the film because they start with a target market, and then try to retrofit an IP, and it just doesn’t work. They did the same thing with Ghostbusters 2016. It was destined to fail from inception. How difficult the film was to make, is irrelevant. They were trying to pound a square peg through a round hole and that’s what killed it. Everyone should call it out.
Can y'all stop being incel virgins for five minutes
Wow.. it’s almost as if that was the whole point of the video if y’all actually paid attention.
He never said the movie isn't bad because it's difficult to make a film.
So this movie would've been excellent if it was under a different studio? Lol
Y'all still ain't over Ghostbusters 2016
SOooooo when I took creative writing (and lit analysis) classes in college, we were taught never to refer to "the writer" of the piece, but the story itself. This is why you get folks who will say things like "the story did this" or "the game did that". A big neon sign for this is using "the text", as in like "the text had this message that was hard to understand."
The motive behind this is to make the focus of your critique on the actual work itself, not the people that worked on it. Like with film, you could say things like "the film" or "the directing" or "the acting", and not actually refer to specific people.
I get not wanting to bash stuff -- but this is also where tone comes in. There's a wealth of difference between someone giving their honest insight and feelings on where the work falls short and where it does good versus someone just trashing it and not offering much, if anything, outside of that.
The Madame Web of movie reviews
LMAO
This guy had a series on this channel called hilaracity where all he did was point and laugh at bad movies
Well said!
The Transformers: Last Knight of youtube comments.
@@rfgator22 The Last Airbender movie of roast attempts.
I kind of don’t care how hard it is to make a movie. That doesn’t exempt them from harsh criticism when warranted.
@@ethanbank1 because if they want me to pay money to go see it, they better make a good movie. It doesn’t matter how difficult the process was, only the end product. I’m not paying to see a movie simply to pay their salary, I’m there to be entertained. If it’s not entertaining, I’m not paying. Pretty simple, dude
@@ethanbank1 I’d also add that it’s not the job of critics to make excuses for why a movie is bad. Nobody who sits through 90 minutes to 2 hours of idiotic drivel cares that that idiotic drivel was difficult to make. Criticism is ultimately a good thing
@@ethanbank1 Please reconstruct your argument in something more coherent. What are you even saying? You do know that "aware" and "informed" are synonyms right? You are arguing a hypothetical situation without any evidence if it even applies to the movie here. What is the evidence in what capacity the studio affected the outcome of the movie? No one said the people who made the bad movie suck, just that the movie is bad. The main purpose of a movie is to entertain. If it fails to do that why should one's judgement be more lenient because of how hard it was to make? No one is yelling "Say the thing! Say the thing" - "Movie bad!" -"Yaaaay!", but for a coherent and argumentative opinion.
@@ethanbank1The current discussion is on the topic whether it matters or not if it was hard to make a movie. And my categorical answer same as the guy you first replied to is no. There are so many arguments to that. Just scroll down and skim through this video comment section and you'll find plenty examples.
Now about studio meddling that you brought in unrelated to the first topic. I do not deny it. I want evidence in this particular case that it it the sole reason for "movie bad". And on that I'm not so sure. I don't know how you can call a video of someone painting a hypothetical situation proof?! Again without evidence.
My evidence on the other hand is just as you said: I googled, read articles, watched interviews form the red carpet premiere even. There are interviews of the director being proud of their work on the movie. There is an interview of the writers on the red carpet explaining how they wrote the script. Also being factually wrong about the source material. I watched their previous work. There are interviews with the cast talking about the process. And none of this matters if the movie was good or bad.
So I wouldn't put the blame solely on the studio. It was a team effort to produce this drivel. As a wise man said "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." or incompetence may I add.
"My bad observation" - yes I know there are a lot of simpletons getting a lot of joy and satisfaction from blank statements as "movie bad". And a lot of viewer hungry reviewers ready to give it to them. Again that's not the main topic but something that you brought in the conversation. That's why I disregarded it.
@@ethanbank1 I would argue that you are the one struggling to stay on topic constantly steering the conversation and bringing points unrelated to it. The comment for the red carpet was to point out incompetence, mainly on the part of the writers. And the seeming pride of the end product - something I wouldn't expect from someone whose creative process was disrupted from the studio in a big way. If it was so egregious I would expect the creatives to express it in some way. Remember the whole Zac Snyder complaining and campaigning for the Justice League - Snyder cut? There are other instances of directors leaving projects like Scott Derrickson from Doctor Strange, Patty Jenkins form Thor, Edgar Wright from Ant-Man for example. Or maybe it was egregious meddling, but the creatives didn't care and rolled with it. Why? Maybe they didn't care to making a good movie. Or they are too incompetent to know what a good movie is?
I would argue that everyone has plenty of stuff to care about daily. A lot of it is very serious stuff. And when someone goes to the cinema pays ticket and buys overpriced popcorn (or does does so for their entire family) usually expects to receive a good movie in return and escape their lives for a couple of hours. Not to receive the burden of caring about some arbitrary movie maker and how hard their job was. I produce stuff in my work every day. If it is bad and the client buying it complains they sure don't care how much sweat I poured into it or if my boss told me to make it that way. As it should be. Same goes for movie makers. All that matters in the end is the quality of the end product. And when I turn to a critic hoping to find out if it's worth my time and money I expect to find opinion backed by arguments. Not a story of studios bad - creatives good.
"But reviewing these days goes beyond what you see and start blaming the people who made it.'"
So people who made bad stuff should be exempt form criticism? Why wouldn't they carry responsibility for what they made? Because the studio forced them? - which I don't believe in this case. Just look at their great work until now: Morbius, Gods of Egypt, Dracula Untold. Plenty of dots to draw a line for the quality of their work. Or the studio meddled each and every time?
Someone owes an apology to all of the people who worked on Jaws: The Revenge.
Not really. Jaws 4 had every advantage an 80s summer movie could have. An Oscar nominated actor, an experienced director who’d made at least one classic (the original Taking of Pelham 123), and the lead actress was the studio president’s wife, meaning a comparably bigger budget than most franchise films. For 1987 context, Jaws 4 had a bigger budget than Lethal Weapon, Dream Warriors, and Jason Lives combined. People bag on it because it’s phenomenally sloppy filmmaking by people that know how to do better, but you can tell don’t care and were in it for 2 months in the Bahamas on Universal’s dime.
@@bobcobb3654 Michael Caine built a terrific house from it too
@@bobcobb3654"Why are you bashing filmmakers? You don't know how hard it was to make Jaws 4 or whatever, the studio interference probably ruined the creatives vision" - Cowardly Chris Stuckman
@@josephkerrigan733 cope clown
Actually I have always blamed the studio for that film. Studio chief desperately wanted his wife back in a movie.
I rather live in an honest world than an overly sensitive one
Kudos
I rather live in an insightful and nuanced world than an overly negative know-it-all one.
That's an overly sensitive thing for you to say...
@@nikhilnewse3318 What was the lie?
True true
I love how he doesn’t even realize that by refusing to review the movie and saying he wants to keep his channel positive, he’s inadvertently telling us how much he really really hates it
Exactly. It would be like introducing a friend group with “here is big dick Derrick, tall Tom and Jim.” By the fact you said nothing about Jim just say is you don’t really care for him.
It's called the Anthony Fantano gambit. Also known as being a complete coward.
and theres a difference between bashing a movie and giving constructive criticism, u can give constructive criticism, without it seeming like ur hating on it. idk how chris doesnt see that either, i missed the early days of this channel.
@@spikesya Anthony Fantano reviews are the worst ever. I can't stand that guy.
@@spikesya A coward? How? The quality of the movie becomes irrelevant beyond highlighting that this studio treats their creatives and their source material with no respect whatsoever. Directly criticising the studio responsible instead of the people who had practically no control over it is the opposite of cowardice.
“This will not be a review for Madame Web” … tells you everything you need to know. If it was a good movie he’d be gushing over it and suddenly it’s all about how awesome a job they did. But when it’s terrible “I’m not going to critique”
Uhuh
He is a coward and a sellout
Might as well stick to other reviewers like Jahns at this point. Stuckman has lost the plot.
Sellout
Truly one of the reviews of all time
Lmao!!! .. Perfection
He says in the opening minutes of the video that this is NOT a review
I couldn't agree more
@@pastramiking6874🤤
_"As a filmmaker--"_ is the new _"I grew up with--"_
OH GOD I remember that! How on almost EVERY video he "grew up" with something and how it was "constantly on repeat" on his house. This guy is such a fraud... he's a former Jehova's Witness who as a JW spent much of his time going door to door about it but he also apparently had enough time to grow up with every TV and film franchise around at the time. I am really starting to doubt this guy, he seems really shady!
Chris grew up being a film maker.
Tell that to Zods snapped neck
Please leave hater nobody likes you@@ToxicTurquoise454
@user-jw1of4it6j No he stopped being a reviewer and became a bootlicker
It took you 16 minutes to say "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all."
What a waste of oxygen that was.
Imagine if Chef Gordon Ramsey approached Kitchen Nightmares the way Stuckmann approaches movies.
"Hey guys, that dish you are making is a dish I grew up with, so I have a lot of personal nostalgia with it. I too want to become a chef, and I don't want to burn any bridges, so instead of criticizing your dish I'm just gonna suck you off. Courtesy of NordVPN"
@@schlubopbeebop886 that was perfect 😂
This comment deserves way more likes lol
I saw Kitchen Nightmares and I one episode Gordon kick out one of the owners of the restaurant. The people who was putting the money to make the food was the problem, his interference in the kitchen was ruining everything. So Ramsey call out the guy and kick out his ass. The same Chris is doing here. Call out the people who put the money and is ruining this movies by don't letting the people in production "cooking" with freedom.
@@schlubopbeebop886 LOL
There is nothing disrespectful about giving a movie a bad review. I don't know why there is some need to dance around the issue.
I think he just doesn't have the ego to review bad movies harshly while also working in the industry since he's a newbie in the film industry. Compare to someone like Tarantino or Scorsese who have criticized tons of movies (particularly Marvel of course) but still managed to survive working in the industry because they have made tons of great movies before so it doesn't matter whether they criticized other movies or not as studio still want to work with them because of their massive experience in which Chris doesn't have that yet. At least that's how I see it 🤷
He explained why at the beginning. If he starts ripping on movies, especially by new writers and directors, how will he look if his movie sucks when it comes out? People will have ammo to come at him and call him a hypocrite etc.
An honest, fair, negative review of a movie is not ammo to call him a hypocrite if his own movie is bad. @@unropednope4644
Chris is like a journalist who can't report on a story because they have a vested interest in squashing it. He sold his integrity for a chance to be a Hollywood director by being a suck up.
@@unropednope4644 That does not mean he made the right decision, that just means hes not a confident filmmaker. Not being a confident filmmaker does not excuse you from being a bad critic.
If you won’t give a negative review your positive reviews are meaningless. In addition, If you place all then blame on the studio for a failure, you better give them all the credit for a masterpiece.
Common now, that requires integrity. Don't expect a Hollyweird shill to have some.
You're so wrong. First of all, it's not about not giving negative reviews. It's about not reviewing movies you don't like. How can you not get that? Jesus christ, dude.
So what you're telling me is this: If I tell you my top 10 fav movies list, it's meaningless unless I also tell you my worst 10 movie list. Why would that be? It makes absolutely ZERO sense. My top 10 list is a damn good list of movies. You don't need to know that I hate Beyond Skyline (2017) to appreciate that I love Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings Trilogy. What the fuck are you talking about?
@@NebolI don’t know if you’re just too obtuse to get the point or if your histrionic anger is blinding you, but: we all understand what he’s saying. Do YOU understand that if we already know he only gives positive reviews then we already know what his verdict is and there’s not a lot of point in listening to his review - other than potentially some self-gratification to hear another fan praise a movie we want to like? 💁🏻♂️ Calm down - and think.
@@Nebol Well yes you do if you're a reviewer you trust on to tell you what's good or bad ffs, so if he doesn't review something i can assume it's shit? so he can review every release every day for every film? if you review films it's not always about the good you have to review the bad but since Chris has become a "writer/director" he thinks he's above reviewing films on TH-cam and again that's fine just close your account as a reviewer because you're clearly not what it says on the tin
@@Nebolwhere was that energy when AVGN didn't want watch Ghostbusters 2016?
The old Chris would have made a hilariocity review of this movie.
He grew up and that boy became a man, a bad man, the kind of man we were warned about as kids, the one who offers sweets and a fun ride with the no consequences if we keep secrets and look away at things we are not meant to see or talk about with anyone. You either die a hero, or your live long enough to see yourself become the creepy guy in blacked out van type of villain.
Actually that would be better than bashing a bad movie which he doesnt want..... So i'm not sure why he doesnt go that way to stay as a critic cause right now his channel confuses me.
@@Vamatt99218 The thing is .... He's no longer a ((critic)) a critic would be critical of bad movies and even critique parts of good movies. He has basically said he only wants to be positive now. To me that just makes you a glorified paid shill movie reviewer. His reasoning is pathetic. Because he now knows the troubles and difficulties of making a movie. So he doesn't want say anything negative about other people's projects.🤦 Plenty of award winning directors have praised other people's work and have shat on other's work. Tarantino is one of them. Pretty sure he knows all the troubles and difficulties of making a movie.
Production studios and companies would like nothing more than everyone to adopt his mentality. Say nothing bad about our crappy products, only praise what you like. @WaltRight
@WaltRight first of all relax. second i'm agreeing with you. Deep breath, now exhale.
VENOM had the writer from 50 SHADES OF GREY (who is also directing VENOM 3)
MORBIUS had the writers from GODS OF EGYPT (Who are also behind MADAME WEB)
And KRAVEN THE HUNTER has the writers from TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT
AVI ARAD ruined everything again, just like he ruined TASM
And he isn't even involved in MADAME WEB
I never knew this tbh. I’m now not excited for venom 3 even though I loved venom 1 and I thought venom 2 was alright
No it’s not Avi, it’s the guy from Transformers who can’t understand what’s canon or a reboot.
@@MrTragedious986 I know that
All films you mentioned are garbage.... actually worse than garbage.... they're content.
Watch Venom 2 without the rose tinted glasses. The movie is horrible and a genuine embarrassment for Sony. People didn't speak up about how bad it was enough and still bought tickets, that's why Madam Webb and Morbius exist. Please call out bad movies even if you find something in it you can like@@solarflame-he6cw
Fans: Why dont you use Spider-Man in your movies? You could make billions!
Sony: Why make billions if we could make... *MILLIONS!*
Sony: Why make billions if we could lose... MILLIONS!
Chris grew up with Madame Web 🕸️
Morbillion
Nah that's Hollywood in general
@@ThePFD518underrated coment!
Dude barely dipped his toes in the "biz" then says "he can only imagine" but makes a decision as if he got the deets directly from sources.
Lmao
He’s scared someone is going to bash his ‘film’ (read pet project) when (if) it comes out.
so true. Ive only heard minor rumblings and whispers from people that somehow magically immediately disappear that sometimes studios interfere with movies in destructive ways.
Somehow I think you find it a lot easier to believe this when it comes to movies with certain kinds of directors
It’s a shame to see Chris not having fun with bad movies anymore
well, there hasn't been a good "so bad its good" movie in recent history. most movies are just bad studio dreck
@@FelixM86 he actively avoids being negative to movies since he got in the industry
I know he feels the way he does, but taking one terrible movie to task for its own major faults isn’t going to take away your “above-it-all, I’m-an-artist-too” understanding we have on the channel’s direction as is moving forward.
@savy4266 when you subject yourself to that many bad movies with a negative mindset going into a movie and coming out, it affects you in the long term
He is scared to death of hurting feelings now...Basically a movie simp.
I gotta say, ever since Chris stopped doing negative reviews of bad films I pretty much abandon the channel for any actual movie reviews. It's nice to see some deserved negativity when it's called for. I never wanted Chris to become a hate watcher or film hater, but he really needs to restore some balance to the channel.
So why are you still here posting?
His video here touches something no other has done. He explicitly tells you it is super easy to find regular reviews of this movie elsewhere, so instead he decided to do something different and that he feels, adds relavant extra discussion to the movie industry.
@@joebilly3719stop gobbling his dong, sir
@@joebilly3719 get ratioed, nerd
so... is this not a review channel anymore?@@joebilly3719
@@joebilly3719 I think it was a well done video but my point is the channel overall. It used to be my main review channel, now I stick with Jeremy Jahns. I miss the brutally honest reviews before Chris started playing it safe.
When it’s been 2 seconds and you haven’t told everyone your a filmmaker….Stuckmanized moment
“Film maker”
Notes from melody or whatever it was called was absolutely garbage.
I always found that Stuckmanized thing creepy. Like ew dude!
@@youfillmylifewithjello6661 it was ok. Auditorium 6 was decent so he’s definitely not a bad director
shut up
He is also a critic who is terrified of criticism. He did that rewrite for BvS and hated the response he got.
So I should feel bad about sending rotten food back to the kitchen at a restaurant? Because running a restaurant is hard?
stoopid, it's not even the same comparison
of course you can send it back, you can choose to rant about it on the internet or not
That’s a good analogy
No, you just shouldn`t scream "Did your cook try to kill me?! Is he even a cook?! You should fire him and never let him cook in a restaurant again!" Mistakes get made.
@@DarthDoom-2014 Yes. Everyone makes mistakes. Thats what critics are for. To point out the mistakes, and give suggestions about how to do better next time. You can’t just give excuses. Which is literally what Chris did this whole video. He just gave excuses for everything.
@@BudJr Yes, I agree with you about critics being a help for storytellers to get better, but I I disagree with Chris just giving excuses for bad storytelling. He makes clear in the beginning off the video, that you can watch other videos for criticism of the movie, because he doesn`t talk about film criticism. He talks about movie studios beeing apathetic to writers, witch leads to movies like Madam Web. Sony is realy an ideal example for this problem. We know for YEARS that Sony doesn`t allow creativity in there movies. You can tell, because of how similar all there movies look and feel.
He never talks about "criticizing is rude towards writers". He says, "studios interfere to much in the filmmaking process." Look at Sony, Disney, Marvel, Lucasfilm,...
“I make movies now so I will not critique the movie”
You can critique things with grace and love my friend.
If you want a critique of Madame Web, there are dozens of videos on TH-cam right now that does exactly that. I appreciate Chris's insight into the industry that keeps turning out such low effort movies like this one.
It's not how he wants to spend his time. No reason to be insecure about his outlook.
@@Lmkm456 “I really want to see him review Madam Web because…”
Yes but if youre trying to break into an industry, it’s best not to loudly and publicly criticize anyone, no matter how much grace and love is given, especially before you even make something worthwhile yourself…
This is a smart move by Chris. Tina Fey said something similar on a podcast recently because of the Ayo Edebiri situation.
Coward behavior, dude is incapable of giving an honest opinion.
Quentin Tarantino knows how hard it is to make a movie and bashes bad movies all the fucking time
Difference is Tarantino is a good filmmaker, while Chris is dogshit when it comes to making movies
@@irwinsolano6635 good filmakers aren't born. It's a skill you learn. Do you really think that Tarantino's very first m0vie ever that he shot in his backyward was box office hit worthy?
So unless you bash bad movies you can't be a director, is that what you're saying? Grow up.
@@Nebolare you actually braindead or something?
That's because he's a man and Chris isnt
This is just sad. How can anybody live like this, not ever being able to speak their mind because they're so terribly afraid somebody could be offended or it could damage their carreer.
Trump 2024
When you enter the industry, you completely understand why. I’m not saying it’s right, but people have no idea how it works until you’re actually in it. People talk. That’s it.
Fun fact: America once fought a revolution over being able to do this! Well, that’s gone. Hopefully someday we’ll get it back.
Yeah he might as well just make comedy skits at this point.😂
@@CB0915 That won’t help. People are willingly becoming more fragile and pathetic. No president can curb that without China-like despotism.
Movie critic refuses to criticize movie, sells crappy psychotherapy instead. Did you know he made a movie?
Never heard about it.
No, he thinks it’s just a better use his time to discuss how the movie industry contribute to the suck. I mean there are hundreds if not thousand of rage bashing reviews of this move. A video trying to analyze how the crappy studio movie industry keeps creating these kind of movies is something worth more of everyone’s time
@dominiccourtois4415
Except he spends most of the video talking about how he made his own movie instead of actually talking about how the studios interfere and ruin creators.
Of course, none of this actually matters. The creators are terrible and this movie would've been bad regardless. There's tons of movies that were butchered by studio interference, but he decides to white knight for the one movie with terrible creators, unenthusiastic actors, and an awful scripts.
What a brave hero lol
@@dominiccourtois4415I agree with what you're saying but we all know the real reason why he's doing it. He doesn't say anything about any movie now that's bad the only reviews of movie if he likes it so he doesn't have to say anything negative but in the case of this when it was such a huge movie he had to review it so he chose to just give a non review which is even worse.
@@dominiccourtois4415Video literally starts saying ,"I don't know how hard it is to make a movie under studio system" and you are saying you liked it coz he is trying to discuss or analyze how the studio contributes on making worst movies.
Since u liked what he is talking about can u explain how studio contributes to making the movie worse.
I was robbed at gunpoint once. But even though the outcome was so bad and I got robbed of my money, I'm not gonna talk about that.
Instead, I'm going to focus on how much hard work that robber did. He had to buy the gun, dress in all black, wait for me in the bushes, summon up the courage to do it...I'm so proud of him after all the effort he went to.
😂
You are absolutely brilliant bro. Excellent analogy 😂😂😂😂
In fact, the madam web movie producers did infact rob their movie goers of their money.....
Im feeling pretty inspired by all of his hard work 😂 *theme song plays*
Lol im dead
I hope that guys like Chris stuckmann realise that they come off as pretentious twits when they say " oh, I am a film reviewer who is above film reviews".
Chris..If you have a conflict of interest in this field, and cannot even criticize a movie..then what are we doing dude?
He’s grifting on the back of his prior work.
We’re making low effort short form videos on the internet that can be most generously described as “cinema journalism”!
this is not a madame web review, are you purposely dense? Everyone seems purposely dense in this comment section. There are a billion videos that are criticizing this movie already, there are a quintillion memes that even homeless bums who don't have a smartphone know about already, who will benefit if Chris just regurgitates what everyone is already saying? He said way more in this video than Jeremy Jahns has ever said in his entire pathetic youtube career with his cringe tequila glass and a bath-robe saying
"uhh this scene happened and it was bad, but this scene happened and that was cool, but then that scene happened and that was uhhh... bad, please liek and subscribe"
I think it's way more productive and interesting that he adresses the whole sony/hollywood conveyer belt garbage instead of regurgitating what everyone on planet earth already knows. The abundance of bad reviews for these types of movies are exactly why these types of movies are still being made. Bad reception is still reception, the reason this movie exists is solely because people kept talking about Morbius, if everyone had just kept their mouths shut, madame web wouldn't exist.
@@user-ly2ll5od1r finally some semblance of sense down here. the way entire "communities" are trying to nudge him back in a direction he's already done to death and no longer feels like doing is insane. it's literally cancel culture.
My apologies I thought this was a review channel not a blow Hollywood channel
I remember reading an article in Premiere Magazine back in 1997. It was an article about the making of Good Will Hunting. Miramax was executive producing and Gus Van Sant was hired to direct. Harvey Weinstein brought on Lawrence Bender (Quentin Tarantino's producing partner) to basically keep Van Sant under surveillance and prevent him from doing whatever he wanted. I guess things were getting so bad with Lawrence that Van Sant finally confronted him and said directly to his face "You don't have a creative bone in your body and I just want to punch you!". I guess Bender backed off, and the film went on to become a critical success and win 2 Academy awards.
This pops into my brain whenever I hear something like this - about studio Executives who feel like they need to micro-manage and interfere with every creative decision. We need more Gus Van Sants.
Speaking of Gus Van Sant, what has he been doing lately? Last time he made a movie was 2018 with Joaquin Phoenix and Rooney Mara that gain a critical success, I wonder where is he now
@@Erasureeraser excellent question! He's currently co-directing and executive producing a television anthology for FX called Feud: Capote vs. The Swans, created by Ryan Murphy and starring Naomi Watts, Demi Moore and Chloe Sevigny. It's not by any means a theatrical movie, but it's work nonetheless. Hope he makes a return to making proper films one day, but when you've been in the game for more than 30 years, a bit of a break is always welcome. Have a nice day!
Yup, pretty much trying to justify their jobs. Unfortunately, happens everywhere with management.
LL
The only solution I see is: Studios should shut the fuck up and just give us creative people their money. Full stop.
This guy really wants people to know he made a film.
He's worth 3 million and needed his viewers to fund it...
Shouldn't you be willing to put skin in the game if this is your "dream career"?
I thought he was joking… Dude doesn’t come across as a creative person - then again, very very very few critics are.
a film that struggled to find a festival for its premiere and a distributor... I think he is scared to be critical because he knows he can't make anything but steaming shit himself
lol yea. Big "AS A BISEXUAL WOMAN OF COLOR..." energy
Not saying how bad it is actually speaks volumes to how bad it is, more than saying how bad it is would actually express. It’s like a horror movie monster obscured in shadow - the less detail you see, the more work your imagination does, and the more horrific it feels.
Red Letter Media also knows how hard it is to make a movie. They still call out piles of shit when warranted.
RLM is actually a good youtube channel though
@@markussharkus6727 One of the best.
Have RLM actually made a movie, though? Because they best known for known for b*tching about modern Star Wars and modern Star Trek as opposed to you know, creating anything.
@thehacker4012 umm so is Chris...?
@@TravisKlappe-TheRealRedHood Er no, he isn't. He got his start with negative review about the Dragon Ball movie. But he eventually evolved beyond that, but RLM, haven't evolved at all.
I love the story of Blazing Saddles... the studio told Mel Brooks that he had to cut virtually everything out of the movie that made it great. He listened to them, then almost completely ignored them because his contract said he had the final say.
That's the reason we got one of the greatest comedies of all time.
I never loved Blazing Saddles as much as others but that’s awesome
It's good to be king ❤
Mel Brooks is a legend!
Which cannot 100% ever been replicated on these times of modern sensibilities.
Yeah, I'm sure that happened.
Take a shot every time Chris mentions that he's a film maker 😂
You trying to kill us??
See here's the thing. He's not a film maker. He's not brought out an actual film with a budget over 100k.
Or if you’re trying to quit drinking; take a shot every time you’ve met a person that knows who he is or has ever heard of or seen his “film.”
@@user-ez9bw4im4i That's both condescending and inaccurate. Congratulations.
I am writing this comment as I draw my last breath from playing this drinking game
chris, you are a movie "critic". you can still appreciate the hard work and passion that went into a movie without needed to tip toe around the bad quality of products.
How is "you know it's not worth even making a review of this movie but I have a different topic I can use this as a gateway to make a video" tiptoeing about the movie being bad? What he's implying here, which should be obvious is that of course he didn't like it, but he had nothing new to add on that front and in fact he disliked it so much it sparked an idea for a much better and more valuable video...
How is that not critical enough?
@@ericmicke4130 can't appease these critcs who are mad a critic isn't critcal enough lmao
When did he lose his spine?
Now he doesn’t want to be critical when it’s his job
@@ericmicke4130 I swear to god, these people haven’t even watched the video and see this as a rEviEW and that Chris is supposed to be a cRitiC
Yeah. He doesnt make reviews anymore. Thats obivous
Isn’t the “challenge of making a movie” true with any movie in existence? They’re all challenging and many put effort into them. If you can’t criticize a movie for being a bad film because “people worked hard on it”, then there ARE NO BAD MOVIES!
It's not the only thing he said. He also mentioned the behind the scene hustle that's happening and that we should show them what YOU want with your dollars. Unfortunately, judging by these comments, it's a bunch of "bots" afraid to have their own opinion. They would rather be told what to like, go along with others, and hop online to join the dumpster fire. That's not showing or proving anything. So, on goes the show...rinse and repeat.
Yeah, that line in the beginning about him having the privilege of making an indie film and not being "under the studio system...." I mean, whoever made or worked on Madame Web, could easily make an indie movie or go back to to indie scene. They surely have the know how and know enough people. Instead, they decided to work for company X and follow their guidelines or whatever. Nobody forced them to do anything. That part was just weird.... as if people earning millions for working in a system they picked.... are a victim or have way way more difficulties compared to starters trying to or making an indie movie from scratch... come on....
@@zod4365he mentioned the fanfiction going on behind the scenes in his own mind. He is doing the wussification thing : shit on the movie, but blame it on faceless nameless corporation overlords in black suits forcing directors, actors and writers to make bad movies. What a wussy. Just call out the BAD writing, BAD acting and BAD directing.
Newsflash : if an actors performance is cringe and the dialog is bad, the blame goes to the Writer, Director and Actor. Not Mr. sony Studios Handler man in sunglasses forcing an actress to do a bad job and forcing a writer to write poorly or a director to ignore the asinine dialog and cringe acting.
This is the kind of video you make when you are afraid of being blacklisted, which is odd, as I could see blacklisted occurring more from blaming the “studio” and letting the talent and creatives 100% off the hook in order to satisfy a fanfiction in hour own bloated head.
It's true of almost everything in life. Building a house is difficult, but refusing to be critical of a shoddily designed house because one fears they may be ostracized from the carpentry business would be instantly laughed at & rightly labelled as pure cowardice.
This is the participation trophy of movie reviews.
@@TimmyJay-uk6nrweak. 😆
@@TimmyJay-uk6nr That is a passive argument. You either control the narrative or it will control you.
is his film will turn out to be a disaster the people will be extra pissed because he "was" a movie reviewer. @@TimmyJay-uk6nr
0:25 literally one of the first thing he says it's that the video is NOT a movie review
@@TimmyJay-uk6nrWhat a thin-skinned individual then.
It's his pretentiousness that really made me stop enjoying his content. Dude made a low budget movie and thinks he's a big shot. He's a TH-camr that made a movie and not the other way around
I really miss old Chris :/ His videos are so sanitized now, that one can’t get Stuckmanized anymore ..
@danielsliwa1045. Yeah the moment Chris started to change was when he decided to not do a Worst Movies Of The Year list, I forget what year that was, maybe 2018?. Then when Covid hit he just flat out stoped reviewing movies he felt was going to be bad.
It’s almost like one could get unsub-manized
I guess the reality is that this is not a film critic channel
@@diogoredes But it used to be. Chris was a movie reviewer from about 2011 up until 2018 ish, and was an entertaining one.
It was around 2018 ish that Chris decided to not do anymore Worst Movie Of The Year lists because Chris started to think that bashing directors and writers wasn’t right, even though Chris should know that no one should ever be exempt from criticism.
And about the time Covid hit Chris started to not review any movie he felt was going to be bad.
He can, but he already explained why he instead would focus on positive things. The internet has become a sess pool of exaggerated criticism and negativity, there are full channels almost fully dedicated to that, the critical drinker style, and they do that because they know drama and polemic draws a lot of attention, it generates clicks. Put a "it is trash", "killing our childhood heroes, "woke garbage" in cap and yellow in your thumb and get a tons of clicks. Instead of this, Chris decided to focus more on the possitive aspects and the things he really loves, and to help smaller or less well known movies and creators. And Chris know that, due to that, due to not appealing to our natural drive for drama and polemic, he would loose clicks and money, and yet decided to do it anyway because he rather do what he loves. He stills does criticism, this entire video is pointing problems in the industry, but he did so without curse and buzz words, without making a fuzz about it.
If, after knowing all this, you still rather watch exaggerated content made to feed of polemic, rather than nuansed and calm discussion, go watch things like critical drinker and get out of here.
Chris ~ ‘it’s not the writers fault!’
The writers ~ ‘Literally the only reason we wrote the movie set in 2003 was to use the song Toxic’.
Now the next question is was it the writers choice to include the song or the studio producers?
also to use Dakota Jones
Didn‘t Toxic came out 2004?
@@pcb1175apparently in an interview the director said that was one of her favorite songs and a fond memory growing up on that period of time...
So maybe the writers did it to appease the director.
Chris - "It's not the director's fault."
Director - "This movie is my vision".
Nothing wrong with calling out garbage when you see it. Pure honesty is refreshing these days.
it is what it is maybe chris too afraid to criticizing other filmakers...
@@FunTime-ke4vwAre you really a movie critique if you are so scared to criticize movie???
this movie was horrendous lol such idiotic characters and dialog, should've never been made
You don't want honest opinions. You want opinions that reinforce your opinions.
@@cashewnuttel9054 Not generally, I enjoy being challenged. 😁
If something's bad, just say it.
I miss hilariocity reviews... Up until 2017 this channel was golden with the bad and good reviews, but the bad ones had a special place in my heart. TH-cam really isn't what is used to be.
*Getting Stuckmanized.
The problem is TH-cam is all bad movie reviews lol.
@@Anthonycheesman2024 so because we have millions of videos on how the Nazis were wrong we should have videos being positive about them? Maybe there is a lot of negativity….. cause it’s bad.
@@zogwort1522 going to have to start making positive videos… too much negativity on this subject….
I don't think Chris Stuckmann is representative of TH-cam as a whole 😂
I have respected Chris a lot over the years. I wish him the best on Shelby Oaks. But I REALLY hate how he’s become so pro-director/writer and so anti-studio and tries so hard not to burn any potential bridges with people he knows in the entertainment industry that he now totally omits the fact that some directors and writers, no matter how nice they may be as people, can make a product that is *gasp* BAD.
Sony deservedly is to blame for pitching these terrible, half-baked Spider-Man spin-offs in the first place. However, let’s not forget that they, along with Disney and other big studios nowadays, are also responsible for consistently hiring people with not-so-good track records in Hollywood to helm turds like Venom, Morbius, Madame Web, and (I think it’s a safe bet) Kraven the Hunter.
Absolutely
Well said
@@GigglingStoners Not well said.
@@AntiWokeBlokeDon't say absolutely. Stuckmann is doing the right thing.
Absolutely well said
You can tell a movie is bad when Chris has a therapy sponsor in the video 😂
Correction: you can tell the review is bad when...
@@CoolioBeanswhat
😂😂😂😂😂
You got nothing to do. That why you pick on youtubers you don't like.
It's like he's leaving us hints throughout the video. His mouth doesn't say to not watch it, but his clues and eyes scream DON'T WATCH IT!
Its pretty easy tell what is actually going. You want to get into the film industry and you're afraid if you are critical of their work, they won't call you back. Well they won't call you back if they don't respect you. Nobody respects a critic that refuses to be critic. Good luck funding that next film without an audience.
"i used to criticize my politicians and my government for their shitty policies. But now that i myself am running for office, ive realised how hard it is to be a politician. Therefore i shall never criticise my opponent even if they do something that straight up insults the concept of democracy JUST because theyre also a politician. Like me. I hope that the next time i fuck up no one criticises me as well"
This is how you sound like, Chris.
OMG u nailed it, great analogy
Literally
Soulless. You can always see it in the eyes.
What are you all gossiping about? This is a lame analogy. Get off this bandwagon before it's too late.
So what? He's wrong to want to move on with his life, do something else? He would be a hypocrite if he still reviewed movies as a critic. He wants to be a paid filmmaker, and he just spent 16 minutes spilling crap to the people he hopes will hire him one day.
Critic says "I'm not here to critique anything" 😂
He criticised Sony in whole video. Fix your ear
@@saifalam2030”Sony bad” isn’t as deep of a criticism as many people here, you included, seem to think it is.
@@saifalam2030and ignored the writer and director. Cause I’m sure if there was no studio meddling it those idiots would have made a masterpiece.
@@biscuitboi9478 You are here to watch someone bashing movie not critism. You are just hater. He point out where Sony put a Pepsi logo on final fight scene. No writer will write that a fight in front of Pepsi logo. In remi spiderman movie sony included venom, George lucas, Cappola, Scorcase said many time studio tried to ruin their flims. It is what Chris just said. You maybe were here to watch someone else getting insulted.
@@edwardrichtofen8530 The comment is sponsored by Sony. So you were the guy who laughed at Dc after they casted Heath ledger for joker and Robert Pattinson as batman. You just want people down because you boss rips you down on regular basis on your shifty job, your friend treat your like trash. Now you want see other people getting ready shitty treatment . Normie 🍵
You can give a negative movie review without bashing people. Everyone that works on movies works hard but some people just really suck at it. Stating that fact is not bashing.
He didn’t mind using the title and the imagery to make a dollar on TH-cam and his advertising
Too bad he didn't do that with George Lucas... Chris has no integrity
@@FrostbiteDigitalStuckmann made his career out of bashing George Lucas, what did you expect!?
I don't understand the notion that the film industry is above harsh criticism. The world has enough slackers, scammers, and politicians, Chris, we don't need you to follow in their footsteps.
He’s only doing it because he thinks he has a chance in the film industry
@@toxicchatman8975not just him , could be anyone
@@toxicchatman8975 Which is understandable but he should start a new channel then as it certainly clashes with his current pursuit.
Yeah he sold out and doesn't criticize anyone anymore now that he made a movie and that now he's trying to make it in the industry.
He literally said like 2 years ago that he's not interested in trashing movies like this anymore and wants to go on a different, more positive direction but sure go ahead
@@IVUSER In otherwords, he lost his balls 2 year ago, probably when he started making his own movie. Am I right?
@@shykorustotora Unfortunately , you are.
@@IVUSERYou mean when he started working on his movie? Convenient timing don’t you think?
What’s going on with his movie? He still asking everyone for money?
Translation: guys I’m trying to work in Hollywood now
You didn't watch the video
@zod4365 Half of these dumb mfs didn't. Lol, mad cuz a man giving a perspective.
@@zod4365I did. He only blames Sony as the big bad guy. But the writers have a horrible track record. That's not Sony's fault. The director is incompetent. This is their first feature length film. It's amateurish as hell. Not Sony's fault. The acting sucked. Everyone is phoning it in. Not Sony's fault. I can go on and on.
@@omarsabir1210Didn’t Sony approve it?
How is he trying to work in Hollywood when he's openly calling out the studios that would potencially be his bosses?
Just a thought. If we are supposed to see and pay for movies that are good, doesn’t that mean we need honest critiques about both good AND bad movies, so we know which ones to see and which to avoid? I don’t see a negative review as a bad thing. It’s necessary thing to make sure the future has more good ones.
He doesn’t think negative reviews are a bad thing, but since he is now a filmmaker he’s not going to partake in negative reviews.
@@phantomspider8083 then he shouldn't be a critic
@@rustyshackleford6035 He is a youtuber. It's his channel. He can make whatever content he wants with it.
@@rustyshackleford6035 exactly, a critic critiques films and doesn't kiss ass
@@phantomspider8083 yup a typical ass kisser. Instead of being honorable and fair... this dude is WEAK
criticism isn’t a bad thing in itself. Refusing to criticize anything constructively is flat out wrong. You’re literally a movie CRITIC, so either critique or don’t.
"Did I mention I made an indie film?"
High on his own supply. It's cringe.
This is Chris' new "I grew up with..."
Let's be honest, his upcoming movie is gonna be shit anyway.
This is only something you'd understand as a fellow filmmaker...
Wait, a guy whose dream was to make a film makes it, then makes the film he's proud of talks about it a lot. Well I am shocked 😲
This just had me thinking about my favorite movie Se7en. The studio had more uplifting ending for that movie initially but sent David Fincher the wrong script which contained the shocking ending we ultimately got. When the studios refused to go for it, Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman (along with Fincher) stepped in and said they go with the dark ending or they won’t do the movie at all.
We got a memorable ending because the cast and crew fought for it.
I had no idea. I am enlightened 🫶
thats why studios are so clueless and need to stop interfereing with director's visions, i mean alien 3 was horrible too
@@jameswilliams-zr8cothe assembly cut of Alien 3 is quite good and you can see Fincher's talent. Fox and the producers didn't know what they wanted. One of the scripts had Ripley landing on a planet made of wood inhabited by space monks. They were sometimes giving him script pages on the day of the shoot.
@@chaelwright8450if Newt still died in that version, it is still disappointing
Let’s also remember that _Snakes on a Plane_ was the *working* title, but when the filmmakers began to consider changing the title, Sam Jackson told them he would _walk off the project_ unless they kept the title.
History was made and we received that immaculate film with that _perfect_ title.
Chris has reduced himself to being a living breathing link to Jeremy Jahns channel lol
@@TimmyJay-uk6nr not at all quite the contrary. his movie reviews are superior
@@TimmyJay-uk6nr If "Karma" was a euphemism for for industry softball and quid pro quo, then yes.
@@TimmyJay-uk6nr Ah yes, Chris Stuckmann, the White Knight.
@@nhagan001 Lmao the white knight
@@TimmyJay-uk6nr unironically - the more you avoid something, the more likely you are to get it.
Not to mention Meet Doug Walker. He is the guy that is made fun of a lot of time: From the way how his youtube personality is like, from crappy business practices and responce that his company gave, to those practices (in fact for the last one he is still not forgiven and actually, this is one of the reasons, why a lot of people wouldn't like to be associated with him) and of course for his reviews themselves (not to mention movies, but that's a wormhole for another time).
Guess what he does? Laughs along, because as he himself said "Wouldn't that be hypocritical, if I were offended, by "Oh those people make fun of my art", when my entire career launched, because of me making fun of others art".
The king of beating around the brush.
"Don't ask questions. Just consume product and be excited for next product."
Love those RLM fellas!
And that is how movies like this exist.
What he meant at 10:30
That’s right Susan.
"Go away now!"
Don't you have an entire series called "hilarocity" where you essentially laugh at bad movies. It's OK to call something bad, bad. I don't gaf how "tis so sad for the nepobaby Hollywood film maker who got paid a fortune and works for a billion dollar studio"
The last hilarocity was 3 years ago.
@@darkfire7660 That explains why I haven't been watching Stuckman for the past few years. Holy hell, I've tried watching a few other videos. It's so sanitized and boring. He has gone way too deep into the "I'm a filmmaker too, I would be devastated if people made fun of my movie so I"m never, ever laughing at another persons garbage" hole.. hope he comes to his senses.
The nepobabies in hollywood will be fine if we laugh at their horrible decisions.
Yeah I don't get it either, he reviewed The Phantom Menace, his 'worst' film ever, a movie with infinitely more original ideas, music and better visuals (even though it's still a dogshit movie) than Madame Web. But Madame Web he refuses to dissect, i just don't get it
He stopped a long time ago.
@@3choblast3r4 Stuckmann is a hack. He always was, but he's less subtle about it now. If you actually watch the movies he reviews, you'll realize pretty quickly that a chunk of his complaints in the reviews don't really hold water. He only half pays attention because he's busy scribbling down notes to put in his review, misses exposition, then complains about things that were cleared up in the exposition he missed.
He pretty much always took the "safe" (popular) opinion on movies, especially blockbusters. The nonsense he came up with to explain why he liked Episode 1 as a kid but not as an adult was peak popularity-surfing. "It was 'cause, y'know, it was a new Star Wars movie and we just loved Star Wars. It took years for us to finally realize it was, y'know, bad! I call it being Phantom Menaced!" And a few weeks later he's riding Disney's D with Episode 7 even though it's half as good as 1. He claims to be a fan of films and series he demonstrably hasn't seen. He got the murderer for Friday the 13th wrong, even though it was a classic twist to a classic horror film.
The fact he thinks he can make quality movies when he can't even make quality reviews is just who Stuckmann is.
"You're not a chef, so you can't criticize the meal you paid money for"
Ur missing the point jackass. It’s like if a talented semi famouschef got hired/signed a deal to make recipes and signature dishes, for say, a commercial chain restaurant, and the chef then proceeds to showcase all these well crafted signature dishes, and the CEOs, people who have no idea about food, and just money say, ya know what, we don’t like that. Please do something more like this, and use these ingredients instead, and this and that, etc.
What do you mean H2S04 is bad for your skin? You are not a chemist.
I'm not a mechanic or a pilot, I can't criticize the Asian woman that just bumped 5 cars and a light pole while parking in an empty car park.
I feel like eating food, and watching a movie aren't quite the same thing...
@@PetProjects2011 that is the same thing 😂
It's all about taste and opinion. You can have a critic eating some random disgusting trash and saying it's good because its unique and has a particular taste because some chef made it and they are just pretentious.
There's chefs that don't critique others foods because it wouldn't be fair.
There's critics that just judge things on what they like and enjoy, without looking at the dumb presentation and difficulty to make the food, giving a nice fried chicken a better score than some escargot with sauce from baby albino goat and hand picked berries from the mountaintops of Mt everest during a blood moon on the date 6/6/66.
And then there's normal people that eat normal stuff and know what they enjoy and is what makes the 99.99% of the profits of restaurants.
Then there's madame web, a piece of 2$ raw meat, served while the feminist banshees "sing" to you by screaming like crazy people, while plopping red paint from their vaginas (yes. The feminist banshees that scream like crazy people is real. Yes, the feminist "artists" that make "art" by putting paint in their vaginas and then letting it plop on the ground on top of a canvas, is real as well).
Not about bashing films?
You have a "Hilariocity Review" playlist that is dedicated to MOCKING movies you personally find bad.
That was the old Stuckmann. When he was honest and a real person. Nothing of the great movie critic is left. The real Chris Stuckmann is gone.
I get what Chris is saying but i still wish he gave movie reviews on bad movies or the Hilariousity reviews. They were so entertaining
It's just not fun anymore
He's trying to be in the industry. Can't bite the hands that might sign your checks.
@@bozzutomanexactly smh, he became neutral in his opinion
@@bozzutoman This video is him bashing the type of entities that would sign his check, so that doesn’t add up. He just doesn’t like to bash fellow moviemakers.
@@TS-rz9jw”wokeness” or “having a professional career” are not the same thing
"I have to talk about this..."
Proceeds to not talk about this.
Common Modern Stuckmannized L
Maybe he was saying he has to talk about the thing he talked about.
Commenter misses the point entirely of what a video is about.
its getting ridiculous watching some of his vids. All so he can be treated nicely when his film eventually releases.
SHUT UP
Interesting take.. so, what did you think about the movie??
(Sweats profusely)
This is why movies suck now. Filmmaking has become one big circle jerk where nobody who wants to be part of the industry is allowed to speak their mind and say “Wow! That movie absolutely sucked”.
As long as people in the industry keep burying their heads in the sand and pretending that audiences are to blame for not liking shoddy movies the industry will continue to burn.
Underrated comment, so we'll stated
Chris Stuckmann:
0:20 "Since I do try to keep it mostly about film celebration on this channel"
0:28 "I am not about bashing filmmakers/artists"
Also Chris Stuckmann: Has a series of videos called "Hilariocity Review" in which he does nothing but bash filmmakers/artists.
Admit it, you think you just might have a chance at Hollywood, so you don't want to risk losing it by being honest with your reviews anymore. You're a sellout, that's all you are now.
and thats exactly his point? that he is trying to make it into hollywood and will do anything for that even becoming fake, putting as many sponsors/ads, and filtering his content to please hollywood critics/producers/directors. @@TimmyJay-uk6nr
No sh*t Sherlock. He made a video specifically stating why his views have changed and why his reviews would change. Now irrespective of whether it’s out of genuine pity for other filmmakers or trying to look good for the studios (I think it’s fairly obvious it’s a mix of both) he made it damn clear previously.
I wish Chris was a little bit more gutsy with his takes nowadays, but the guy is trying to pursue his real dreams and if part of that means softening his channel in regards to critical reviews, so be it. I still enjoy his old reviews and retrospectives.
Exactly this
@@TimmyJay-uk6nrhim criticising and bashing the higher ups won't get him any job either lol
🤔 hmmmm
Stuckman - “Kung Fu Pirates who also cook”
Sanji - “Am I a joke to you?”
It sounds like corporate that watch One Piece but still somehow doesn't understand the appeal and just rip the idea without effort, not remembering where they got that "idea" in the first place.
Lol
That’s exactly what I was thinking about haha
Had to delete my comment after I saw yours!
he doesn't do kung fu
"I would urge you not just to read good books, read terrible books too - because they can be more inspiring than the good books... A genuinely helpful reaction to something you’re reading is I could write this s***. That is immensely liberating.”
Alan Moore - imparting sage advice
I think you could say the same with movies
And that's never been helpful, especially with how subjective people's opinions on media is. Plus making something better than an infamously bad story isn't really something to brag about. It's like being better at math than a kid with Down's Syndrome.
Tbh tbat sounds gold on paper but depressing the moment you realize its not "anyone" just a small group that can get away with being trash at their fields and even being recognized and or phraised for it cause you know..."connections"
@@diegosotomiranda4107 Not always connections though, plenty indie artists that can get away with mediocrity due to their fame
"One of the things that gave me the most confidence in trying to make a film was seeing all the lousy films that I saw. Because I sat there and thought, "Well, I don't know a goddamn thing about movies, but I know I can make a film better than that"."
- Stanley Kubrick
@@Whoa802 Kubrick is a once in a generation talent
He just sounds like hes afraid of people criticizing his movie
That fear your talking about comes from his JW past.
Scared money don’t make money tho lol he needs to know that
Shame Chris isn't truly reviewing movies anymore
was he ever
He's fake , cant give a single honest review because he's afraid of losing money , he has been bought.
His last one was barely a week ago.
Yep damn shame
Zero integrity, he is just background noise now.
This was sad to watch. I guess i won't ever come back to the channel of a movie critic who won't actually criticize a movie.
He hasn’t been doing it for a while - where you been?
Dilly dallying bs
@@firstlast9846 Probably busy having a life
Come back when you learn to upload a profile picture "7263"
@@rift0tripper fair but he doesn’t need a profile picture to comment
I don't wanna get stuckmanized anymore
"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck"
@@carncats07 what you're referencing is the reason he stopped criticizing anything lmao. he was so mind f**ked by the mockery of his batman v superman rewrite that his balls shrank i.e. his self confidence and "edge." i thought he sucked even when he would bash movies because he always tried to critique the logic of plots, but he was really bad at it. He was so arrogant and self deluded he thought he could write a better scene than whoever wrote bvs. he learned he wasn't one of the Coen's lost brother, threw a hissy fit in an attempt to save face, went soft and the rest is history.
Oh you visit from the Grizzy echo chamber?
CUCKmanized.
Channel quality has definitely taken a hit
This is like the biggest trauma dump I’ve ever seen regarding a film that just released. It’s as if Chris has felt rejected or discarded in the past in his own life or his experience with movies that now he’s projecting his own experiences on to the filmmakers of Madame Web.
My dude, it’s not that complicated to explain how a film like this could’ve been made. You have to look at the perspective of their studio and their filmmakers within the parameters of just this movie alone to get an accurate perspective on it. Instead, you’re basing your views on assumptions most likely from your own experiences and expecting people to feel engaged or related to.
This is the most “non-review” movie review I’ve ever seen.
I miss the old Stuckmann with the sense of humor back when he was a critic
The industry has really done a number on him.
He went Woke and I hate it.
@@Nameless_h_007dufuq 😂😂😂
That's one of the main reasons why I stopped watching him like I used to do, I miss the Old Chris...
This is why I watch 3c films now
Chris one of the reasons some films are so bad is that for some reason we refuse to give creators criticism. Constructive criticism should be welcomed and maybe even required. With out it we'll keep getting subpar movies etc. I don't know why we've strayed away from providing criticism.
Yeah. That is hardly a reason. I don’t see how it’s about creators not receiving criticism. Like in what reality do we think these creators have too much freedom to do what they want even if the idea is terrible and no one is telling them their ideas suck? Mind you they literally got the scripts from the Morbius guys and they ain’t ever made a movie anyone has liked yet somehow has not impacted their ability to get work, it has not stopped studios from trusting them with this mid sized budgets. We not gonna sit here and say that it was the lack of critique that produced madame web. Like how many times have people gone in on Sony? And they don’t seem to be getting any better. So who is this dog and pony show for?
@@birdiewolf3497 I think two things can be true at the same time. It can be both studio control and not providing creators with constructive criticism.
this whole comment section is constructive criticism of a TH-cam creator but you think the problem is creators not receiving constructive criticism?? Film, TH-cam, whatever, artists/creators face far FAR more criticism now than literally any other time.
@@MrRjsnowden I just don’t see how that is really happening. I mean first off there are tons of reviews of madame web from both professionals and amateurs. Where is this refusal to give creators criticism coming from? Where are you seeing this deficit?
I personally think if we want to talk about the state of criticism I think it makes more sense to discuss the polarization. You have those that just want to hate the work, and those that swear blind allegiance to work. And everyone hates the people in the middle and no one wants to listen to them. There is also the fact that creatives insulate themselves amongst those that swear their blind allegiance, so they never really need to grow or change. There is just too much access to everyone thoughts and opinions. Anything constructive gets lost in the sea of nonsense. It’s just so funny because I follow this one lady that talks pop culture and pop music and it’s hilarious to see her get dragged for being a stan or a hater for the same artist on a given day. She’ll highlight their strengths and call out their weaknesses and people genuinely struggle to comprehend it and it doesn’t make her popular. So we don’t need more criticism. I think we just need more people to shut the fuck up. I think if we stopped people from trying to fit in and impress their side, it would give space for more balanced voices to thrive. And if the creative couldn’t rely on their cult to make them feel better about their work, they might push themselves to do better.
@@needlessmoose8055 Exactly! Like I’m looking around like is there somehow a lack of criticism being launched at Madame Web? I’m very confused. It would be one thing if you couldn’t find many reviews on this film and Chris came in with this. But the facts most of the folks in the comments already knew the movie was bad or assumed the movie was bad, and wanted the man to come out and participate in this ritualistic dunking on the film. And he didn’t see the point in that, especially if he didn’t really have any particular insights about the film to share with the class.
I don't understand the strange need to defend the writers and directors , and somehow blaming the studio for things being bad. The team of writers, the directir are those that failed. Now the studio is partialy the blame too , because they okeyed it. But the people on team have either no history of good results of their work, or are consecutive flops.
except that even the actors even said , they worked with a different script , and there are lot of ADR in the movie itself , cuts
You're right, I seen other independent critics and fan channels discussing way more information about how bad Hollywood and Western media industry has fallen. More than what Chris talk about how terrible Sony is managed, that just the tip of the iceberg. We, the audience, are on a lifeboat seeing the Titanic sinking with the movie studios, directors, writers, and so on suck on board arguing among themselves who at fault.
They can both be blamed and will be. Must be convenient to have the studios to blame every time they make a bad movie. @@javidelvalmusic
@@davidthirugnanakumar7888The original script idea wasn’t even that much better to begin with this was a bad idea from the start. It could have maybe be salvaged but it’s obvious that the team gave up on the film.
Oh yeah, the producers basically don't exist and also have perfect ideas
Wow you sold out. Too scared to criticize a film? The actors sucked the writing sucked and the overall directing was bad. Definitely gonna lose more subscribers for chasing the money.
He has already lost more than 10k subscribers over this.
@@everythingisawesome2903 ooo wow damn yeah I just unsubscribed. He's literally doing what every woke person in Hollywood does. Sells himself to get recognition/fame/ money/ opportunity
"How do I earn money by being a coward"
a lesson by Chris Stuckmann
I can see the fear in his eyes.
@@jwroot he genuinely looks like he hasn't slept for 4 days & sobbed right before this video
So when the movie is good it's the artists that did it, and when it sucks it's always the studio's fault?
They are all just smol creators with big dreams 🥺 how could you criticise that?
Right lmao
In this case yeah.
Exactly. This dudes a shill
@@Livvvid Chris Shillmann.
From the outside looking in, I think Chris won't "trash" a bad film in hopes that IF his film is bad, he'd be given some grace.
That’s what I think it really is. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.
yeah i thought the same
@@ModerateLeftist89 my metaphor is, if you're a restaurant owner and you go and eat at someone else's restaurant and the food is bad, then it shouldn't be recommended, doesn't matter how hard the cooks work in the back. We don't eat food thinking how hard someone worked on it, we can only see and judge what's in front of us. Doesn't make you negative, a hater, or bitter if you dislike something.
@@nnewdle I agree there is a respectful way to criticize
This what I think as well tbh
This is the most 'nothing' commentary I've seen on a movie. You've become an apologist for screenwriters and directors the world over, demonizing studio execs and refusing to acknowledge creative shortcomings wherever they're prevalent.
So, my take away from this is, if this was a good movie, he would be praising it, but because he is making excuses to stay away from saying its bad, then he must have thought it was really bad. I wonder if when he gets a bad meal at a restaurant he says, "Well, my steak was poorly cooked, and the waitress was very unattentive, but they worked really hard, so i forgive them. "
Yeah, he talked a lot, without saying much.
What he said isn't wrong, probably, but talking about a movie, without talking about a movie, and the video's title is he has to talk about this (without talking about it), is kind of a joke, right?
I heard elswhere this "review" would be interesting, that's the only reason I came back here.
They didn't lie, and I even did learn something. How NOT to talk about something.
To be fair, this could be just the beginning, but after that a "real" review should follow.
Otherwise it's a big nothing-burger...
And if it is bad it is really the blame of the chains board of directors, who are evil .
Thank you, we only want to hear about the movie not how politics affected affected how the movie was made!!!!
@@eldritchmorgasm4018 Facts he is a politician now.
@wishmakr Brilliant analogy! This channel used to be a must-watch for me. Now Stuckmann is just some guy I used to know.
A movie critic who refuses to critique a movie.
Chris needs use his sponsers like "Better Help"
That the point.,
He's no longer a movie critic since he started to be a movie maker himself.
On his defense, he did stated on 0:25
@@aviergaz1199 when i subbed to this channel was because of movie reviews. Bait and switch? Its like going to McDonald's to get a BigMac, but they serve you vegan pizza instead
@BreadMane
He talked about this change in he's channel. Who ever is disappointed about this, should have go to somewhere else.
@@aviergaz1199 Will do thanks
This feels unnecessary and counter productive. Yes, there’s dozens of reasons why things go wrong that extend beyond some fundamental misunderstanding on a person’s part. There’s 100s of people involved in films and it’s a miracle anything ever gets finished. That means those people deserve to get a paycheck, but that doesn’t mean the miracle is good or worth watching. Someone at Sony had the authority to look at this *shit*, and say “good enough”, and undermines all the effort these people you want to be friends with put in. It needs to be pointed out. If these people are taking it personally that is either their problem, or a good incentive to do better.
This is the Dragonball Evolution of Spiderman movies and you can't criticize it...
Years ago Chris posted a video saying he wanted to change the “vibe” or style of his channel. I remember he said something akin to negative reviews slowly affecting his love to movies or something like it and that he felt it would be better to focus on good and positive reviews. Not ignoring that bad movies exist, but acknowledging that it’s way more important to give proper attention and feedback to good ones rather than Millions of views in shit talking a movie and be negative about it, giving it more attention.
I like this personality, imo we should be more like that. Like, Madame Web and Morbius shouldn’t have been NEARLY talked as much as they did. Not to mention the amount of TH-camrs getting on the that view train is insane.
@@danielz-v4083 no one read all these weird cope. not even me
@@jacksonorlady1367 Noticed this guy is defending Chris on every video that criticizes him with that same copy paste.
@@Trazynn Cant read eh? So you just make it up. Must've been a lot of words to call like 5 comments "every video". Used to say positive things till I realized these werent actually movie critique. Glad Im less associated with his dullard base now.
@@Trazynn I wrote a few different comments on the same one video. Why you gotta lie to try to diminish someone? Weird thing to do