Angular momentum operator algebra

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  • The structure of quantum mechanical angular momentum is treated by working out the algebraic structure of total angular momentum and the z-component. The total angular momentum operator expressed in terms of raising and lowering operators then can be used to work out the ladder of eigenvalues. (This lecture is part of a series for a course based on Griffiths' Introduction to Quantum Mechanics. The Full playlist is at th-cam.com/users/playlist?list=...)

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  • @IsaacMandez
    @IsaacMandez 10 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    After watching this video, I kind of started understanding the quantum mechanics ..Thank you so much Mr Carlson.

  • @martingamer5591
    @martingamer5591 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You explained this infinitely better than my professor. Thanks, my dude.

  • @ItsSebBro
    @ItsSebBro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a british physics student and this massively helped me at university. Your playlist is thorough and explainative. Many many thanks

  • @ferox7878
    @ferox7878 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    your videos are great. This adds so much value to youtube, having such good education available to the whole world for free.

  • @spasbanchev8922
    @spasbanchev8922 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey, I don't know if the comments reach you but your lecturing style is fantastic!
    Thanks for the help with my revision - I've always found that seeing the derivation of something helps me instantly understand and commit to memory.

  • @ruchadesai5958
    @ruchadesai5958 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for these videos! We follow Griffiths four our college and this is indeed very very helpful for my exams!! Thank you so much! 💜

  • @c.e.g.o4797
    @c.e.g.o4797 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could not be more thankful...

  • @condmatgirl27
    @condmatgirl27 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    simple and effective explanation indeed.

  • @GammaDigamma
    @GammaDigamma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    30:49 ladder puns "rung by rung"... This man is a real legend

    • @menoetius8182
      @menoetius8182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s almost as if they call them ladder operators for a reason, weird.

  • @yifanwang2645
    @yifanwang2645 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very clear and helpful explanation, Thank you!

  • @supercard9418
    @supercard9418 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video, this is helping me with my Mathematical Physics classes. Thanks!

  • @muhannadfares6674
    @muhannadfares6674 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really thank you finally I understand the whole angular momentum 🌹🌹🌹

  • @xxdxma6700
    @xxdxma6700 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your video is life saving, thank you !

  • @dr.rahafajaj3214
    @dr.rahafajaj3214 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very useful video. Thank you for your clear explanation.

  • @wathabalhamdany3008
    @wathabalhamdany3008 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Dr Brant carlson

  • @anishakhatun2585
    @anishakhatun2585 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank u sir...it really helps me to understand q.m. better.

  • @herrzyklon
    @herrzyklon 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really like this, thanks

  • @dibyaranjanpanda2951
    @dibyaranjanpanda2951 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well explanations ...

  • @musamohammed5178
    @musamohammed5178 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    so nice .. thank you so much

  • @pepaxxxsvinka3379
    @pepaxxxsvinka3379 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that's what I neeeeeeed!

  • @znorfis
    @znorfis 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do understand that L± acting on an eigenfunction can find new eigenfunctions. However I do not understand why there can't be more eigenfunctions. Why can't there be an other operators that finds finds other eigenfunctions? What did I miss?

  • @warzonemoments3970
    @warzonemoments3970 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you cancel out terms that have double Z and Pz operators since ZZ and PzPz commute?

  • @musab522
    @musab522 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for the explain but you should adding some questios for every section
    >>>>>>realy very good lecture

  • @user-cf8wl9hk2q
    @user-cf8wl9hk2q 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much

  • @georgeziak4483
    @georgeziak4483 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. Is there any video on the calculation ΔLx= sqrt( - ^2 ) ?!?

  • @abdulahamer6238
    @abdulahamer6238 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    you're so smart.

  • @Boooommerang
    @Boooommerang ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @shortwalebhaiya468
    @shortwalebhaiya468 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So. Thank you very much nice

  • @user-gb3fv7ui8s
    @user-gb3fv7ui8s 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    From Iraq, thank you so much🌱

  • @kalyanjyotikalita4562
    @kalyanjyotikalita4562 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    very useful series. I have a doubt regrading the eigenstate of Hamiltonian operator you mentioned. Is it always a stationary state?

    • @bob98123
      @bob98123 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Kalyan jyoti Kalita No, they're not. The hamiltonian is time dependent, as defined by the schrodinger equation. The time independent form of the schrodinger equation has eigen-functions that are stationary states. These solutions were examined previously and is what he's referring to. In general if you know the stationary state, you know (can calculate ) the state at time = t (any time later on) by tacking on the time dependent term psi(t)=exp(iEt/hbar) as long as the potential is time invariant. The time dependent term is only interesting if we're looking at superpositions/linear combinations of wave functions, in which case the phase cancelations give interesting results (as seen at the end of the 19th video/lesson). If the potential varies over time then time-dependent purturbation theory is used, and from my understanding as of so far, thats only used when the time dependent portion is small in comparison to the time independent portion. I'm also new to this, so im probably not 100% correct.

  • @tjh2567
    @tjh2567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Question 1&2 Answers: For the first one, l would need to equal 1 for l*(l+1) to equal 2. And there are always 2*l+1 states, so 3 states. For the second question, l=3/2 (again 3/2*(3/2+1)=15/4), and there are 2*l+1 states, so 3/2*2+1=4 states.

    • @michaelchang2012
      @michaelchang2012 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shouldn't it be 5 and 7? as each step is seperated by only 1/2

    • @soniabiswas3703
      @soniabiswas3703 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@michaelchang2012No. The answers will be 3 and 4 respectively.

    • @michaelchang2012
      @michaelchang2012 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@soniabiswas3703Yup, just realized that for m it’s always separated by 1 not 1/2

  • @zenojimneuromansah8665
    @zenojimneuromansah8665 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video. I was wondering about the step at around 16:10. You mention adding Lz into the middle of the two Lx's and then go on to say "this is essentially an identity". How/where can I find a way to carry out this identity?

    • @evancooper7336
      @evancooper7336 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Basically he just added 0 to the equation, by adding and subtracting the same thing allowing him to later use the terms added to define the commutator. Hope that helped.

  • @buddydiamond8736
    @buddydiamond8736 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ricardomorin7863
    @ricardomorin7863 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    please correct me if I am wrong but I believe that at 9:07 it should be zzPyPy, not zzPyPx. This then means that the two terms wont cancel later at 9:35

    • @curiouswriter
      @curiouswriter 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ricardo Morin his x looks like y. Thats all.☺

  • @Krishnajha20101
    @Krishnajha20101 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video.
    But I had a doubt. At 29:26 you say that L+ft=0. But you also mentioned that the highest value that Lz can take is L. So, why exactly is L+ft=0 and not L(total angular momentum)?
    Sorry if I am being naive. I am new to Quantum Mechanics.

    • @AdamKlingenberger
      @AdamKlingenberger 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Krishna Jha I would like to see Dr. Carlson answer this too, but I believe the answer is that (L_+)(f_t)=0 because an eigenstate that is zero everywhere is non-normalizable, which means it is not physically possible.

    • @AdamKlingenberger
      @AdamKlingenberger 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Krishna Jha Lz cannot equal L because they do not commute.

    • @Winium
      @Winium 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      What? @19:51 they definitely commute.

    • @manishsingh-vk8if
      @manishsingh-vk8if 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Winium L^2 and Lz commute.

  • @griffithfimeto3387
    @griffithfimeto3387 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the result of [ Lz,L^2+_] ? PLEASE I NEED TO KNOW

  • @erwinheisenberg8821
    @erwinheisenberg8821 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone that can walk me through the "check your understanding questions" at the end?
    For the last 2, I've come to L^2f=0 for the first one and 6h^2f on the second (h being h-bar), am I correct? How does one answer the other 2?

    • @manishsingh-vk8if
      @manishsingh-vk8if 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Answer to the last one I think will be (15/4)h(bar)^2 f. No way its going to be 6h(bar)^2.
      regarding question 1 and 2, I got the answer 5 for Q1 and 7 for Q2. Am i right ?

    • @gerontius1726
      @gerontius1726 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manishsingh-vk8if I think the answer for Q2 must be 6, because N has to be an even number and l goes in steps of hbar, so it cannot be zero.

    • @LudusYT
      @LudusYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      manish singh - The answer to Q1 should not be 5. m is 2 and so l can range from -2 to 2. Since l is a half integer, you have to include more than just -2, -1, 0, 1, and 2. You also have to include half integers like 1/2. Therefore, the answer must be 9.

    • @melanienielsen8740
      @melanienielsen8740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, the ladder operators bump you up and down in units of h bar right? Given that and the fact that the spectrum has to be symmetric about the origin, you would have to be either half or whole integer. That's where the distinction between half and whole integer spin particles come from in nature, since the spin of a particle is given by the maximum value of the z-component for instance, depending on your choice of basis right? And regarding the other questions. Since 15/4 is not an integer nor halfinteger, I believe the answer is 0. Regarding the last two, in the first case the possible values must be integers since it includes 0, and in the other case halfintegers by a simular argument. Do I have it right? Please correct me if not

  • @recomoto
    @recomoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    classrooms are very outdated at this point. I'd rather listen to the best lecturers anytime I want to.

  • @user-dw6qx5ke9u
    @user-dw6qx5ke9u 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    حلو جدا

  • @karpagamk5562
    @karpagamk5562 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 17.32 shouldn't it be lx(lz,lx)

  • @MiguelGarcia-zx1qj
    @MiguelGarcia-zx1qj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    41:58 There is a small detail I would want to highlight: after concluding that l_(l_-1)=l(l+1), you argue that the ONLY solution must be l_=-l
    As I was watching the video, I was expecting l_(l_-1)=(l_-1)l_=l(l+1), thus having l_=l+1
    Of course, as it is a second degree equation on l_ (or l) there are two solution; the other one being l_=-l
    So, unless you add the condition l_

    • @hershyfishman2929
      @hershyfishman2929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He should have said this explicitly, but the condition l_

    • @yogitshankar6348
      @yogitshankar6348 ปีที่แล้ว

      nice thanks was looking for it

  • @manuelsojan9093
    @manuelsojan9093 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is eigenstate and eigenfunction synonymous?

    • @secondller
      @secondller 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. This terms comes from Linear Algebra. In comparison, E.state is similar to a vector and E.value to a scalar. In QM it is mostly used because of Schrodinger equation.

  • @RahulYadav-in9ep
    @RahulYadav-in9ep 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do we confirm the answers for check your understanding?

  • @Mohammed-cc5ox
    @Mohammed-cc5ox 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    l = 0 , + or - 1/2 , + or - 1 ..............

  • @albertliu2599
    @albertliu2599 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    check your understanding:
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    .
    1. L2|f> = 2hbar^2|f>, L = 1, Lz could be -1, 0 , 1 ( all * hbar ) . A total of 3 states.
    2. L2|f> = 15/4 hbar^2|f>, L = 3/2, Lz could be -3/2, -1/2, 1/2, 3/2 ( all * hbar ). A total of 4 states.
    3. Lz|f> = 0, L2|f> could be any (hbar)^2 * l * ( l+1 ), l = 0, 1/2, 1, 3/2, ....
    4. Lz|f> = 3/2 * hbar |f> could be any (hbar)^2 * l * ( l+1 ), l = 3/2, 2, 5/2, 3, ...
    Shouldn't there be a |f> at the end for the 4th question?

  • @solsticetwo3476
    @solsticetwo3476 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice math but no insights. No physics. No explanation about why the operator behave in that way.

    • @menoetius8182
      @menoetius8182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Shut up bitch u ever try to talk shit on Brant Carlson and I’ll find you.