Quantum harmonic oscillator via ladder operators

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  • @manavmanavchhuneja1
    @manavmanavchhuneja1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Has to be the best physics tutorial I've seen on youtube and it's way better than most profs do in class.

  • @NomenNominandum
    @NomenNominandum 10 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    The career of a young theoretical physicist consists of treating the harmonic oscillator in ever-increasing levels of abstraction.
    - Sidney Coleman -

  • @carororororo
    @carororororo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    this is an old video but brooo you're saving my life I have a quantum mechanics midterm and this makes so much sense yaaay

    • @carororororo
      @carororororo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I passed it!!! wOOP WOOP

    • @ifrazali3052
      @ifrazali3052 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@carororororoCongratulations

  • @sphericalchicken
    @sphericalchicken  11 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The commutator of two operators is defined [A,B] = AB - BA, so -[A,B] = [B,A], so whether you get [x,p] or [p,x] with a negative somewhere else doesn't really change the result, just the way it's expressed.

  • @Gismho
    @Gismho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent series!!! Thank you Prof. Carlson. Extremely well explained. I'm glued to this series!!!!

  • @lizXP1
    @lizXP1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is by far, one if the best quantum mechanics explanations I have come across on youtube

    • @ta4h1r2
      @ta4h1r2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      QM by Griffiths uses a similar style to this lecture.

  • @aronhegedus
    @aronhegedus 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This whole video is very professionally done, I love how neat your writing is, and how clearly you relay the information. Thank you!

  • @josephhamilton6419
    @josephhamilton6419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent!! How logical and clear this lecture is. Appreciate it a lot!

  • @fornasm
    @fornasm 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WOW, I had already done this, but here it is better done and clearer. 1/2 QFT is in this lesson. well done thanks!!

  • @sibusisiweradebe7842
    @sibusisiweradebe7842 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a quantum mechanics test tomorrow and you just saved my life

  • @Steven22453
    @Steven22453 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're a lifesaver, that's all I have to say.

  • @JohnVKaravitis
    @JohnVKaravitis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb quantum mechanics videos. Your hard work is appreciated.

  • @buddydiamond8736
    @buddydiamond8736 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really wish you were my teacher and not who I have now... this was a question on the test and I was completely lost... anyways, I'm very grateful this video exists.

  • @ajmeriamreenchowdhury933
    @ajmeriamreenchowdhury933 ปีที่แล้ว

    This tutorial was incredibly good!!!

  • @luisbreva6122
    @luisbreva6122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do conmutators have something to do with Poisson brackets?

  • @saramounata2048
    @saramounata2048 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for existing!

  • @yoshii8599
    @yoshii8599 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    still the BEST video

  • @jasonhe6947
    @jasonhe6947 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. It's really a pretty good explanation. It helps me figure out lots of questions.

  • @SWiSHRoyal
    @SWiSHRoyal 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! Saved my exam.

  • @abt1580
    @abt1580 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Brant (Dr. Carlson), Can you provide the solutions to the test you knowledge problem? Thanks.

  • @dzarren
    @dzarren 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At 32:18 you say that the denominator is equal to one, so we can ignore it.
    You say its because sqrt(n+1) where n is zero so the denominator is 1.
    But actually it's because the denominator would be sqrt(1!) from the formula for PSI_ n.

  • @shabdosargam2020
    @shabdosargam2020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much sir ..now it is clear to me

  • @katgirl3000
    @katgirl3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very timely! I need to see this! :)

  • @5UV1NEET
    @5UV1NEET 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How was the normalisation constant calculated at 28.49? Can anyone be kind enough to explain the calculation. I thought it would solving the integral from -infinity to infinity of psi*psi = 1. Are those our integral limits here? Not sure what domain this has been in.

    • @ScroogeMcCat
      @ScroogeMcCat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As far as I can tell, the domain is from -infinity to infinity, and then you get A^2 times the integral from -infinity to infinity of e^(-mw*x^2/h)dx (squaring the e^(-mw*x^2/2h) cancels out that two in the denominator), and then that becomes a gaussian integral (integral from -infinity to infinity of e^(-ax^2) dx is equal to sqrt(pi/a)), which in this case a is equal to mw/h, which gives that A^2*sqrt(pi*h/mw)=1 => A^2=sqrt(mw/pi*h) => A=(mw/pi*h)^1/4. Correct me if I made a mistake. Here is the source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_integral

  • @lohchoonhong4508
    @lohchoonhong4508 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 32.26 example, may I know why is (n+1)^1/2 instead of (n)^1/2 as the formula as shown at 31.54?

  • @averagecornenjoyer6348
    @averagecornenjoyer6348 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why can you write a+ in the left side?
    isn't that implying that the ladder and the hamiltonian commute? (which they seem not to)

  • @starstuff11
    @starstuff11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this 🙏
    Much appreciated.

  • @UcranianoUKR
    @UcranianoUKR 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you had factored out +imw instead of -imw you would end up with [p,x] and get a different results, how did you know that you want to get [x,p]?

  • @MiguelGarcia-zx1qj
    @MiguelGarcia-zx1qj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've calculated several of the psi[n], and drawn a graph of each psi[n]^2 (no complex numbers here, to get the probability density rho(x)). Said graphs are VERY interesting (I don't know if it's possible to put them here).

  • @ancientmemer5409
    @ancientmemer5409 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    While calculating the lowest energy psi(0), where is "i" of the a- ladder operator.

    • @dyer308
      @dyer308 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Abhishek Ghosh original a operator has -i*p hat , but p hat operator is equal to -ih d/dx thus -i*i =1 and you get h d/dx

  • @roonilwazlib8137
    @roonilwazlib8137 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    good and brief explanation!!

  • @rustman1984
    @rustman1984 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brant Carlson
    Thanks for the video. I think I am somewhat understanding. However you give (n + 1)^1/2 as the coefficient for psi(n+1) when doing a+psi. Could you explain/ show what that really looks like in terms of the actually numbers/variables? I'm trying to do this and make the n = 2 wave function from the n=0 wave function using the raising operator twice.

  • @y3rzhan
    @y3rzhan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Brant, could not you please tell me what kind of tablet/pen do you have and what is the software you use? I like that you do have a cursor on your videos and wanted to buy similar one)

  • @أزهارالحوامدة
    @أزهارالحوامدة 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    جزاك الله خير

  • @davidhand9721
    @davidhand9721 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you write p-hat squared psi, does that mean p-hat(p-hat(psi)) or does it mean (p-hat(psi))(p-hat(psi)), i.e. squared in the traditional sense. For that matter, it looks like you're using (x-hat)(p-hat)psi = x-hat(p-hat(psi)), otherwise they would commute. But earlier, you definitely treated (p-hat)(p-hat) as p-hat squared. Can someone clarify please?

  • @davidhand9721
    @davidhand9721 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't get why the ladder operator is quantized when omega is a continuous variable. If I choose a different omega, then my ladder is totally different, so that for any energy, I can find an omega that allows it. What am I missing here?

  • @anjalishankar
    @anjalishankar 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    @ Brant carlson : can you please explain schimidt orthogonalization process?

  • @TheZobot1
    @TheZobot1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this amazing lecture!

  • @Mungop389
    @Mungop389 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent lecture

  • @imamulhaque4958
    @imamulhaque4958 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much sir..It helps me a lot

  • @hendriaditjandra6418
    @hendriaditjandra6418 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brant, just for this time, I don't fully understand the whole concept of ladder operator.
    Is ladder operator used to reconstruct the Schrodinger solution or just simplify it ?

    • @HankGussman
      @HankGussman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      From 21:50 onwards, if psi is a solution then a+ ladder operator acting on psi is another solution with higher enegy = h-bar*omega.
      You can again apply a+ ladder operator on this new solution to get yet another solution of higher energy level with energy difference of h-bar*omega again.
      The same process can repeated with a- ladder operators to get soltuions with lower energy levels & energy difference being h-bar*omega again.

  • @thetimbo21
    @thetimbo21 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happened to the imaginary number in the last derivation of psi(1)?

  • @buddydiamond8736
    @buddydiamond8736 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone confirm if I got the right answer at the end of the video? I got (ħ²/m)dΨ/dx... should I make this simpler?

    • @Joey47600
      @Joey47600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i got the same result, i don't think you can simplify it though

  • @delsub2
    @delsub2 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    pls someone explain the logic of what he said from 25.00, esp the curving away dialogue at 25.25

    • @bodhilandry-stahl4831
      @bodhilandry-stahl4831 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Consider a coordinate plane considering psi(x) on the vertical axis and x on the horizontal axis. For this problem with a potential v(x) =mw^2x^2, the most obvious location to construct the origin is where v(x) = 0 and v(0) = 0. The only valid solutions are physical solutions which force the conditions for psi(x) and x to be greater than 0.

  • @tamkhong8939
    @tamkhong8939 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, You can give me the software that you use it to write on the screen? Thanks alot.

  • @AngelinaGallego
    @AngelinaGallego 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is amazing thank you!

  • @kaltoii
    @kaltoii 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    pretty good explanation, thank you!

  • @joannalada575
    @joannalada575 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know where to find an explanation of how to find the integral when calculating the coefficient of the e term for the equation of the ground state wave function? Thank you! These videos are so helpful!!!

    • @ifrazali3052
      @ifrazali3052 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know I am late but it is just applying normalization Condition in Which you have to solve for Normalization coefficient.

  • @gautomdeka581
    @gautomdeka581 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much

  • @surojpaul14
    @surojpaul14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks 😌

  • @vineethnarayan5159
    @vineethnarayan5159 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    any non-physics students here , learning out of sheer interest here like me??

    • @Salmanul_
      @Salmanul_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah :)

    • @Salmanul_
      @Salmanul_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Renzo Scriber lol yes!!

    • @menoetius8182
      @menoetius8182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you are learning physics you are a physics student.
      What makes you a physics student is that you are studying physics, not that you get assigned homework.

    • @Salmanul_
      @Salmanul_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@menoetius8182 yeah haha, but I think they meant physics majors

    • @carororororo
      @carororororo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i respect you guys so much

  • @zeeshankhalid379
    @zeeshankhalid379 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good lecture. thanks for upload

  • @sarakrauss1895
    @sarakrauss1895 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you very clear and helpful.

  • @96Lamo
    @96Lamo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's awesome!! THANK YOU.

  • @the-fantabulous-g
    @the-fantabulous-g 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    36:42 For Check Your Understanding, do we have [x, T] = h^2/m * d/dx as our answer? Or am I wrong in some parts

    • @Myzydow
      @Myzydow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got the same, think it’s correct.( Acting on some “psi”wave function

    • @pixelberrychoicespodcast5861
      @pixelberrychoicespodcast5861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey the answer is zero
      @pixelberrychoicespodcast on instagram you can ask me for the solution

    • @manibharathi1301
      @manibharathi1301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got the same

  • @learngermanwithvanessa
    @learngermanwithvanessa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    18:08 why not +1/2 a_+ ψ?

  • @schemistry.7406
    @schemistry.7406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice class

  • @algerchenlavernkordom3151
    @algerchenlavernkordom3151 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    when you factored out 1/2m how can you still have another m in the equation left???

  • @samuelj5890
    @samuelj5890 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    sick vid!!! very infromative

  • @starstuff11
    @starstuff11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    [x, T] comes out to be (i h_bar p/m) ?

  • @MmC-vn1mf
    @MmC-vn1mf 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    my homework is complete

  • @J.P.Nery.N.
    @J.P.Nery.N. 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant!

  • @samaviarafiq1692
    @samaviarafiq1692 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone tell me that how at point 5:10 he solve that (m)???...When he take out (m) from the equation than how can he write it below again with the omega and x...

    • @dyer308
      @dyer308 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Samavia Rafiq he writes it as m^2 , so the m taken out in denominator will cancel one of the m in m^2 to give original m

  • @erenozdemir5528
    @erenozdemir5528 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is there no minus sign in front of p at 5:37.

    • @HankGussman
      @HankGussman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look at the definition of momentum operator : -i*h-bar*(d/dx)

  • @akasharora8019
    @akasharora8019 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir which book do u follow

    • @debatoshs9049
      @debatoshs9049 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Introduction to Quantum Mechanics by D.J. Griffith

  • @文文-z9w
    @文文-z9w 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't see how a+a- gives you a different result. When you just switch the position of the negative sign, doesn't product foil out to p^2 + mwx^2 -imw[x,p] just like in the derivation here?

    • @文文-z9w
      @文文-z9w 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is, a+a- = (-ip + mwx)(ip + mwx), which factors the same way, right?

    • @benninjin2215
      @benninjin2215 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      [a+,a-]=[a-,a+]=1
      (a+a-) is not equal to (a-a+)

  • @Zbeat001
    @Zbeat001 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's very very usefull! Thank you! I work on the possible applications of quantum entanglement like a circuit QED model. If you know something about that I really like to see that.

  • @koenth2359
    @koenth2359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    18:40. 'Now you notice I have an A+ here and an A+ here', that sounds so smug!

  • @clopensets6104
    @clopensets6104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still prefer the power-series solution. It just seems more intuitive to me than abstract 'ladder operators'!!!

    • @SS-tu6kc
      @SS-tu6kc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. We covered the QHO in my quantum 1 course over the summer, and now my quantum 2 course at a different college is covering it to start the quarter and I still can’t fully wrap my head around the purpose of ladder operators other than to present a seemingly more “elegant” solution to the problem

    • @clopensets6104
      @clopensets6104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SS-tu6kc Actually, being slightly smarter now, I understand that Ladder Operators play a CRUCIAL role in Quantum Field theory, you can essentially construct canonical quantization based off of ladder operators (plus some abstract algebra).

  • @rafa3lico
    @rafa3lico 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    'kissing the axis' but your making it kiss the 'E' line... Was this a mistake? If it tends to a positive value E, it's not normalizable

  • @souravthapliyal9017
    @souravthapliyal9017 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ans plz of question at the end 36:57

  • @DanielRamyar
    @DanielRamyar 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In slide 7 fourth line, you cannot just add one without changing the order of a-a+ because a-a+ = a+a- +1, otherwise really helpful video!

    • @DanielRamyar
      @DanielRamyar 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +John Doe Shouldn't he then also subtract 1?

    • @ta4h1r2
      @ta4h1r2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He wasn't changing the order of the operators because he was just rewriting +1/2 = -1/2 + 1

  • @Abhijitdas8710
    @Abhijitdas8710 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone explain 25:40 in a little detail...??

    • @ta4h1r2
      @ta4h1r2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If E < V(x), then the signs of the gradients in Schrodinger's equation indicate that the wave function blows up to infinity. But this is not allowed, for a wave function ought to be normalizable (i.e., the function should approach 0 as x tends to +/- infinity), in order to ensure that the area below that wave function, or the probability of finding the particle in a given state, remains finite. Therefore, there must be some minimum energy, i.e., at the ground state, below which we can no longer apply the lowering operator (a_) to generate meaningful (or normalizable) wave functions. It is interesting to think about this constraint from the perspective that no particle can physically exist with an energy below some minimum threshold energy, determined in this case by V(x). In other words, particles should have some little bit of energy at least to maintain its mass.

  • @Jbroglydecap
    @Jbroglydecap 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    good explanation, perfect job!!!!; U subscribed to your channel))

  • @jimdogma1537
    @jimdogma1537 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's so much cleverness in this video that I was left completely confused :-/

  • @bobobobo6394
    @bobobobo6394 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    respect

  • @dutchman2441
    @dutchman2441 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you mixed up minus and plus signs in the opperators, but ill let it slide ;)

  • @imenederiche8225
    @imenederiche8225 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    very useful thank u

  • @jasonyao3753
    @jasonyao3753 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So it turns out that I had a choice between reading the same section 100 times or watching this video once.
    I regret not choosing the ladder 😉

  • @zeenaligog
    @zeenaligog 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is called algebraic method of TISE

  • @فيصل-م9ز
    @فيصل-م9ز 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    10\10

  • @appelbanaan3913
    @appelbanaan3913 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i didn't know eric forman did quantum mechanics

  • @donaldhuidrom4973
    @donaldhuidrom4973 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    m i the only who doesnt know how he get E value at the end?

  • @kq6up
    @kq6up 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is what I got for the answer for the check your understanding: www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=4784187#post4784187

  • @ThePolyphysicsProject
    @ThePolyphysicsProject ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Brant, this video is very informative, and it is easy to see the moving parts! I mentioned your video in my lecture on the "Mathematical Structure of Quantum Theory". To introduce some novelty, I did not use the standard method (i.e. the Frobenius method or the algebraic method), but instead I generated the Hermite polynomials using Gram-Schmidt orthogonalization. Please check it out!
    Skip to 1:18:21: th-cam.com/video/1vMthGqUcr4/w-d-xo.html

  • @beyondscience004
    @beyondscience004 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey,i've watched you solve but i think you did a small mixed up at 5:37,the expression of your p operator is not correct,the p operator is equal to the momentum p divided by square root of mass times omega times h bar...
    Verify that please...
    But later on your expressions are correct for the anihilation operator and so on!!

  • @gerrynightingale9045
    @gerrynightingale9045 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    "All of the energy and matter that existed still exist. Matter does not create energy of itself. The actions of matter enable energy to become manifest".

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    @rmiller415 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toy Story 2 was ok.

  • @ApolloStarfall
    @ApolloStarfall 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heheh... pee hat