Josh Scott of JHS Pedals Investigates The Legacy of The Tube Screamer | Reverb Interview
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ม.ค. 2018
- JHS Pedals owner Josh Scott recently released the Bonsai, a magnum opus to the legacy of the Tube Screamer (as it allows users to dial in the tones of 9 historic tube screamer pedals.) Today, he's talking to us about the fun facts he came across during his Bonsai research.
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"that makes them more valuable, doesn't make them sound better", how refreshing it is to hear someone saying something intelligent about old TS components! Really nice interview and I can't wait to try the pedal.
Josh reminds me of Toby from the office.
I love how Josh just shut down all of the gear snobs with his words. 🤣
David Hesson I'm with you on that.. I'm wondering what's inside this box.
The only reason you're here is because you're a gear snob, dipshit. The average guitarist couldn't care less about this stuff.
Who came here after viewing the short history on 5 Watt World?
Keith Williams is the man
ha ha, yeah, I knew about the Bonsai but the 5 w world got me focused in on it, I'm battling the premise that I even need ANY pedals when I have two Boss Katanas with every FX you could ever need, plus, when I go jam with the band, the other guitarist is so loud that any "tone concern" I may have had is then irrelevant...............right?
@@basslinger I have many irrelevant pieces of gear, but I still like any one of them. 😉
basslinger you know you really, really, REALLY want it. Go on treat yourself.😜
@@uremawifenowdave I think I'm just ignorant concerning the uses of tube screamers, I have four different fuzzes, three distortions, maybe more, who knows!
Nice! Do a Bluesbreaker next :) V1, V1.5, Morning Glory, Prince of Tone, etc.
CaptPostmod yes!
Sounds awesome!! Can't wait to get my hands on one!!
Yeah, I really like the all screamer stack at the end. Ideal sound.
So there ya go, in case there was any doubt left, the chip makes no difference and the 808, 9, and 10 only differ slightly in frequencies that are too low to matter. Love it!
very interesting and informative, especially the graph. i hope you sell a ton of them.
That XR over drive nails the guitar sound from the pillows.
I don't know if Manabe just uses his Orange amps for his sound, but the XR does sound close!
JHS
You did it again Josh!!🙏
you had told guitar players for a second time now!!
the best pedals / chips / circuits are:
the ones that you:
"set em and forget em,move on and learn to play guitar kinda thing!"
EPIC!
That Danocaster whiteguard is rad.
I bought an OD-1 recently and it's just bloody great. The chip only causes clipping, the tone is in your guitar and playing style. SRV was unique and if he used a $10 OD he'd still sound great! Did Maxon not design the Tube Screamer circuit?
The XR was my favourite.
I've tried several different chips in removable socket mods and they are all really close. Nothin you can't dial in or out with the gain and tone knobs. The old OD1 is hard to beat, it's a sweet pedal.
But how does it sound with the Ace Hardware Goldblock Red Stripe 9v?? ;-)
Brian Wampler had a video on the chip in a tube screamer, and imo the different chips do not make a huge amount of difference.
Funny thing mayer used the ts10 and actually his tech was the tech for stevie and everybody thinks stevie used the ts808 guess what he used the ts10 also and the funny thing about it is ibanez already said that was there throw together pedal with cheaper parts lol its funny tho they are alot alike in tone but there are slight differences now the internals are different great video man I appreciate the link to it def enjoyed it but seriously you did an amazing job on the bonsai just like all of your pedals it sounds just as good as the originals if not better
Is there any reason in particular why the only one you didn't talk about was the ts7?
The only one I wanted to hear about :(
Does anyone know what kind of tele and amp the guy is using here? It’s ridiculously hot
I would have preferred to see a Sweet Tea-sized pedal that you could stack different distortions. Especially for the price.
Just realize, josh is a big man
I think he’s 6 foot 6
I respect the heck out of Josh Scott and Brian Wampler. They’re willing to encourage us to look at other brands besides their own and willing to kill our sacred cows 🤣
it would help if the guitar was in tune. anyways, love JHS. this is the TS pedal for me.
Last few seconds of the video.. Sonic Youth is in the house ! 😁🎸
10:10 for the best toanz ever!
But does it have nu- tubes? 😂
Yes. The box comes with five new nu-tubes. You are required to smash the five new nu-tubes with a hammer prior to using the pedal.
Thank you for your inqury and have a nice day.
Nu-tubes are a great idea though.
Can i get it in Montreal ?
"it makes it more valuable so maybe that makes it sound better" *shrugs*
Coming from him... Damn.
Pretty sure that was sarcasm.
Hearing the stories is almost as interesting as hearing the tones.
No TS-5 :'(
Josh was so young then
Bravo jhs
Fan of JHS.
That moment when you’ve got a tuner on your headstock but are still way out of tune.
Is this the last word on tube screamer pedals? Probably not.
1:32 Original OD-1s used 16-pin chips, not 8-pin.
David Lee 14
Yep. Early OD-1s used a 14 pin RC3403D chip, though I think some early models also sported an NEC uPC4741C. I think the chip Josh is talking about is the 8 pin JRC4558D that was used in later models. God I love the OD-1.🤓
I have the od1 from 78 its a 14 pin chip rca.its amazing pedap.and to be more greedy i just bought an original narrow box ts808 that has the rare mc4558p 2 chips from 79 .wow ohhh yeahhh its the holy grail 🙏👍👍👍🎸🎸🎸
hahahahah, that ending...
Chips won't change the sound noticeably, and the spec sheets for any given JRC 4558D-type chip will prove as much. Having said that, as time and usage progresses, the wear on the chip's components inevitably leads to lesser resistance and your sound becomes more "transparent" and less "compressed." The difference is night and day with old TS-808s and newer ones- you don't even have to take my word for it. Ironically, when SRV used his TS-808 on his records/concerts, his pedals were relatively new; so if you wanted to get similar SRV sounds, you're likely to get a little bit closer today using newer 808 pedals than dropping $600-$800 on an old one.
The sounds do change from 808s, 9s, and 10s though; 9s are reported to be substantially brighter than 10s, and 10s have more bottom compression in their 808 counterparts. It would be cool if pedal gurus designed a double-blind experiment to test aforementioned hypotheses.
So cool - I love the history - someone should right a book with all this stuff. Well played, JHS!
analogman already has done it
I own an 1980 808, and I have an reissued original 808 with the “original” true chip. I cannot hear any difference: so once again Josh is probably right. As always…
Alright, I really want to know from someone who may know more than me because I'm honestly curious, have JHS EVER come out with anything that's ACTUALLY original that Josh created? It seems like just about every pedal they come out with is just a clone or rehash of something that's already out with and expensive enclosure and name. I think their mods are really cool but do they actually have any pedals that they themselves came up with originally?
Well, stacking 9 separate circuits in one box seems fairly original, but I'm pretty sure that he came up with their "Color box", Crayon, and probably the Andy Timmons too. Plus the VCR
Gutardogastronopus That's not the same thing at all. Does Porsche copy the same mechanics as a ford?
Honest reply, I thought the AT was just an MI Audio Crunch Box?
Earthquaker shoved a bunch of different TS voices into their Palisades a while ago
Timmons is just a mod angry charlie I believe which is I believe is a MI Audio Crunch Box
All these comments about how much better they could make the pedal. I can’t believe so many pedal makers out there. Oh wait.
I'm always amazed by the ridiculousness of the John Mayer fan boys.
The bonsai gets these pedals dead on. I referenced Robert Keeley’s vintage ts808 & ts10 against the bonsai and in a blind test couldnt differentiate.
“Move on and learn to play guitar type thing” elucidating statements
I don't get the three years development thing. After this statement is presented a bunch of well known already existing developed circuits.
9 pedals which have basically the same circuit, look at Wampler's channel.
It has a digital routing system to switch on or off the trail of some components. So, everytime you select a mode, you are actually selecting a componnent routing that is identical to the pedal it came from, but when you change the mode, another route is made. That's really complez
I'm glad Bill Gates has entered the pedal world.
It is not what they say and I know better and they shoulda throw this in and that should not be there and Josh's shirt is bad and it is way too expensive and it is not the same and the yellow pedal shown is old and why is everything not just as I want and everything else is ridiculous and so on...
Tanju Eren ok, you win the run-on sentence award for this thread 🏆
Geez that sounded terrible. Im sure the pedal sounds great but....yikes
Is it just me or am i sensing these two actually kind of hate Tube Screamers? I’m calling Hipster Hate™️.
Matt Brown I think TS circuits have become so cliche in the pedal market that a lotta players are sick of it being rehashed 7 different ways every Winter NAMM. I have a collection of 808s and I have sold a ton. Most are really close and a few were just bad ideas.
For what it's worth the Fulltone FD2 Mosfet is my favorite. I love it in flat mids mode.
*cough* Earthquaker Palisades *cough*
I hate that fucking amp they use in Reverb demos
So, Josh "liberated" 9 different pedal designs, and put them into one enclosure. He's really upping his game from just copying single pedal designs.
at least this time he's not passing them off as his own circuits
Like the people who accuse him of stealing their designs haven't ever copied other designs in the past.
yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque
Hi, I guess I left my answer short; There's this quote/saying: "the only reason i can see further is because I'm standing in the shoulder of giants," Isn't Marshall's first amps based on a modded fender bassman? and so on, on every amp after based on Fender, Marshall, or Vox amps? Isn't every drive pedal based on an existing one from the 70's or 80's? Doesn't a musician influence another musician who then uses the same inspiring chord to create their own music and so on? There's no fallacy in my reasoning, because it's just the way evolution/life works, a creation based on another one.
Alec Pacheco You are clearly uninformed, young man. Stop defending JHS. You sound like the idiots who defend Trump. JHS’ legacy of circuit theft and other dirty dealings are well documented by folks who know this shit far better than you apparently.
OD-1 was built to compete with the DOD 250, MXR Distortion+, and Proco Rat. Not a Tube Screamer.
eljoel89 - he said the OD1 preceded the TS808 and that Ibanez copied the OD1 circuit
eljoel89 but josh is correct, in that the circuit is more similiar o the TS?
The OD1 pre-dates the Rat by about a year or so
DOD, Dist+, Rat are all single op amp, with symmetrical diode clipping to ground, whereas the OD1, despite not having a user changeable tonestack, shares the two opamp, with feedback loop diode clipping in opamp 1 structure which is common to tubescreamers. In summary, ts9/808 are pretty much OD1s with clipping diodes being symmetrical and added tone control in fb loop of second opamp.
EDIT: od1 first used quad op amp, but parts one and 4 were just in and out buffers if that changes anything lol.