That moment you realise Melisandre arriving was unexpected and so the fire araks were a bonus. Meaning they were originally going to charge with the fire-less versions, even blinder and less effective. End me. Edit: I can see a lot of people want coverage for episode 4, what I can tell you is that I have already began working on a season 8 recap in total and it will hopefully release soon after the last episode does...stay tuned folks, it's gonna be long....*sigh*
And hilariously they didnt even give them proper weapons to counter the dead. Yeah........ Hilarious. I guess they were clearly expecting Melisandre to warp in and do her magic, except they werent. *facepalm*
Not *less* effective, *completely* ineffective. They weren't made of Valyrian steel. They were sending the Dothraki to their 100% certain death and contribution to the army of the undead. And not one of the Dothraki paused for a second and thought, "Wait a minute..."
all I want is a show to be smarter than me. I'm not a scholar I only have a passing knowledge of midlevel siege tactics and battle tactics. I'm sure there's plenty of books that have accounts of battles to draw inspiration from. Christ a decent rts game will teach you not to attack the front lines with cavalry.
Lady Bladebinder certainly going to kill Cersei. Don’t know about her killing the mountain though. I imagine they’ll make the hound fight him so all the bar reactions can see “cleganebowl”
I actually think they still could have had Arya kill the NK - IF they did it correctly. If we saw what Dan and Dave promised: "A showdown between Jon and the NK is coming. One more intense than Hardhome, more intense than Beyond the Wall. It's going to shock the fans" If we saw Jon, Briene, Jamie, Jorah or anyone with Valerian Steel fight and kill the WW's and then Jon went 1v1 vs the NK- I can totally see the NK winning that fight and kicking Jon's ass, but before the NK can kill Jon- he's saved from Arya. It's a payoff that would have more worthy than the one that we got.
Devin Daily they could do anything if it was written with a modicum of thought lol. Tyrion could’ve killed the Night King if they bothered trying to write it
Well, it's like if Darth Vader had chocked to death on a peanut allergy and Jabba was the main boss, above the Emperor... "Nemesis a worthy is ones proof of nobility."
No amount of plot armour would save Sean Bean you could have him covered head to toe in plot armour even then somehow Sean Bean dies. No but really seriously no one important died I mean come on even Ser Davos survives and he was on the fucking wall last I checked.
@JoeRingo118 they've been hinting at it since season 1. He traded Joffrey's face for Stannis, and from Stannis moved on to Brienne. He will reveal his true identity after he kills Cersei using Jaime's face. These show writers are utterly brilliant!
They were extras who were scheduled to he on the walking dead, but they got lost and were searching the library for an Atlas Map book so they can figure out how to get to thr right set.
LordOfThePizzaPie the fun part about that is, that there is actually a bunch of hints that the boar was warged by bloodraven (at least in the book). So indirectly, the boar might actually be a villain in the book
The boar killed King Robert, but the Night King killed Eunuch Theon. But in GoT lore, Eunuchs make the best fighters... and siblings are the best lovers!
@@whitecreamymilk8436 in all fairness, it was heavy calvary doing the charge and they had a literal angel on their side (Gandalf). though they could have done a better job showing that the light he used actually hurt them, not just made them recoil. broke up the spear/pike wall at least.
@@Chirishman343 i realize that. But again it was also said this army was specifically made to kill cav. And they set up the pikes and never moved them. Also the horse bridge scene was bad. I dont think he knew how cav worked. I say this and i actually liked twin towers more then return of the king. It was a great battle the cav tactics still sucked. I liked the warg tactics earlier on though. I thought it actually worked. But cav in the seige didnt imo.
"Also, make sure the flame-throwing trebuchets go in FRONT, outside the walls, so they will be overrun." "Seriously, do NOT put them inside the castle walls where they would keep being useful until the walls were breached."
@@@kikima258 They don't understand how walls work, period. Houses still have walls for the same reason: so you'll know where people could come into the house. You don't sleep in a sleeping bag under just a roof, do you? If it isn't surrounded by walls you're a hobo and will be robbed by the other hobos. Conglaturations!
Tbh when I watch the episode on my phone, its so dark and pitch black, I didn't see anything after the cavalry charge. And the screen only brightens when the dragons appear but 60% of the time are pitch black
Genuinely, i didnt hate this episode. It was easily the best of the season on that score alone I throw in the shots you could actually see since it was TOO FUCKIN DARK
Cartoon Critique I remember watching the earlier seasons, loving the main plot but always looking forward to the Nights Watch segments, and always thinking that the white walkers would build and build and eventually become the main focus, and season 7 teased that they would be, so disappointing how it turned out :/
and pretty much her entire screen time for the last season was basically her standing around looking stern. i'd be pissed if i was Lena Heady, they screwed her over
31:25 - "The Dothraki and Unsullied have been wiped from the show. Then again, I'm sure they will be fully re-stocked next episode...." holy shit you weren't kidding. Perfect prediction.
Not to mention in the final episode, the Unsullied seem to have a force larger than the one that they started with back when Dany first acquired them from the slavers. Since they are eunuchs, maybe they replicate via mitosis?
That was my reaction when he showed the two scenes with Jon side by side to show how different the backdrop was, except they were so dark I couldn't see a thing.
visuals were shittttttt if i wanted to watch a few lights in the dark i would type Nice Fire work desplay on youtube. everything was shitttttt..even that sound effacts or lack of. all shittttt
I am a tactical enthusiast, I did had a god damned stroke watching this episode. I actually screamed out loud. Only someone who knows medieval tactics could do this much wrong. They had to know what to do right, and do the opposite.
@Allan Mulrian True, but unlike here MATN uses his archers on the walls first then has his cavalry flank and not rush heavy infantry at the start of the battle.
Do you not think that the white walkers have any brains at all, and would siege the unsullied/dothraki/whatever inside winterfell until they all starve?
Spear/shieldwalls outside of the walls can be useful (especially when the enemy has no firepower) because it buys your archers on the walls more time to shoot at the enemy, though clearly nobody on the wall was taking advantage of this anyway
Allan Mulrian and I can win a siege battle without losing a single man because I don’t do that. I meant the AI knows it should keep its men inside the castle, not that to fight the AI you should.
Adrian Chung irrelevant, in my scenario the player is the wights, the AI is the humans. Sod it the AI is both, it still makes a better fight with better tactics. Yes human player is better, but if we start comparing this shitshow to human players let’s be honest, it is a worse comparison.
It should have.... hes immune to fire anyway. Because Targarien and shit. Great way for him to kill the frigin dragon. Just walk into the flame and stick the sword into its mouth. But naaaah we can't have epic moments for our White males. Only little girls can be epic. Because that is progressive or something like that.
@@tygerskull Make Pepper Potts kill Thanos halfway through Infinity War and Captain Marvel lead the avengers to victory against Hydra during Eng Game and we're getting close.
Okay so, let me get this straight: -they have a castle -they put their troops outside of the castle while defending the castle They ignored the entire point of why castles exist.
Honestly, this is just a live adaptation of a noob defending against the Vampire Counts with Norsca in Total War: Warhammer. This is exactly what NOT to do in a siege battle.
Antonio Sonntag even better the zombies aren’t gonna shoot back and they’re dumb so they could’ve easily funneled them into a choke point but no they had to keep their entire army outside the castle walls for some reason.
> Dothraki OP plz nerf! > massive patch Patch notes: Nerf list: Dothraki -5 common sense Dragons -5 skill +50 durability Night King: new critical hit box White walker -500 perception
Gray Worm: +500 selfishness he just let all his brothers die, he all of a sudden cares about his life just because he's had sex when he doesn't even have a dick
@@Hys868 dude she was hiding like on top of them dude like she has training dude like its battlefield so they cant hear her dude stop hating dude staaaaahp
Not five minute in and this is already the most incompetent game of Total War Warhammer I've ever seen. It seems they forgot which side of the map they were on and set their units up *backwards* .
That's not all they put there artillery right in the front so when the cavalry dies the artillery may deal enough close range damage to end them only to run out of ammo at the last second. The fucking Greenskins are better strategists than these people cause at least when they charge they are smart enough to ensure that some "sneaky git" is going to be right behind and ruin you and they are smart enough to launch squigs at you. At least they put their artillery right behind some big boyz.
Flashback to 2010. Weiss: "So will you do it Sean, we're offering you a lot of money." Bean: "What's the long-term endgame? Weiss explains. Bean: "Just kill me off in season one."
Legend has it that Dumb and Dumber offered to make Ned Stark probably the first Sean Bean character in history not to die, but Bean asked to die anyway.
That wouldn't work wedge is a man. It needs to be wedgina. There fixed it and made it woke for 2020. God I hope disney doesnt see my post. They probably would think its a good idea and make remake jedi.
They already did. A scavenger girl killed the most powerful Sith in the Galaxy ,who can destroy space fleet by lighting, by just crossing two stolen lightssabers.... And yes, Ep9 is remake of Ep 6.
Yeah she was one of the actresses who actually read the books and dived as deep as she could into it. She learned how to sword fight left handed because the character in the books was left handed. Now she is ambidextrous because of it and actually helped form the idea of that double edged staff Gendry forges for her that can be broken and dual wielded. Now only if D+D could’ve had the same attention to detail as Maisie did. You knew they were dumbass fucks when all they cared about in season 7 was getting a zombie polar bear somehow into an episode. The only thing they did right was read the books before another producer did.
Tbh ASoIaF still uses plot armor. Samwell should have died at the Fist, or at White Tree, or Crasters, and Jon should have died in the Skirling Pass. Its also never an important character that dies to happenstance, except maybe Khal Drogo and the infected wound.
@Luke So true. I haven't felt this violated since The Last Jedi. But this is worse. I'm not a huge Star Wars fan, but ASOIAF was my favorite work of fiction and up until they ran out of source material, the show was my favorite show. I can't believe they destroyed 8 years of intrigue in a single episode. I've never seen a shark-jumping moment like this before. Considering the stakes and the fallout, this may be the single worst episode of television of all time.
@@spacepotato5524 r/asoiaf are cool with it too, it's already there www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/bjx2j8/spoilers_extended_game_of_thrones_s08e03_an
JagerIV Yeah, it did. Frodo failed, and in that moment of distraction and weakness, Gollum (who is consumed by his need for the ring), takes the opportunity to get the ring back. Gollum was so set on getting the ring that even when he was falling into Mt. Doom, he was still happy. Gollum was only there to take back the ring, that was his only motivation.
vin 950 the Dorne storyline is actually one if my favorite storyline from the book which was soo good in the books but the show runners are retarded and ruined the whole show and plotline for me
@@MercurialStatic I didn't realize that person was being sarcastic. There's heavy foreshadowing that Gollum has a very significant role to play, it's highlighted many times, and when he destroys the ring it's a satisfying payoff. It rewards the mercy of both Frodo and Bilbo. Arya coming out of fucking nowhere doesn't pay off any foreshadowing or complete any arcs. It's just a plot twist invented on the spot for the sake of avoiding the expected.
YES!! As soon as I saw this episode I said out loud "Wow, it's too bad MauLer doesn't do Game of Thrones, he would have a field day with this one!". And here we are!
maisie williams is actually a very good actor and she has some great integrity. Remember the stupid bravos chase scene where the waif chases arya and arya manages to effectively run despite being stabbed? Well it shows a few establishing shots of her struggling while the stitches tear apart yes? That was her. Because david and dan actually wanted arya to be fucking FREE RUNNING and parkouring using backflips with zero shots of her struggling. It had to take Maisie to say "no, my character would not be doing that, show me injured" Obviously, this time, such a fuck up of immense proportions is beyond a single actors input
@@savannahkorben7353 Pretty much all the european media is anti-Orange Man tbh. Plus each person has the right to have their own political ideas and express them, with some respect of course.
@The Mongoose Trumps public approval ratings are lower than Bush, whose approval ratings were lower than Obama... less people showed up to vote during the 2016 election than any other presidential election in 20 years... YOU don't speak for all of us...
Good work. Now whats the verb for a show that jumps the shark in a Mary Sueish/ SJWish/ poorly written fashion? "My favorite franchise just got 'Reyed' and the goddamned Transformers are dead to me now." Idk
@@SlyScyther Yes he was. He was built up as infinitely complex - as Mauler said, TRANSCENDING G human characteristics. That was his entire arc. He is the embodiment of death, turned into a subpar human villain.
@@Arcessitor he never transcended human characteristics. The white walkers showed themselves to be sadistic and mocking. The night King smiles after surviving the dragon fire. Very human reaction. The threat they represent goes beyond thrones, but does not transcend human nature. Death is not complex
The Night is unsatisfying and full of fans that will make excuses for this episode till they call you Nazi. Dumdum dada dumdum. Only drunks in Burlington Bar will love this regardless of it making no sense as the feels and visuals and themes. Pretty colours glug glug.
Season 1: winter is coming Season 2: winter is coming Season 3: winter is coming Season 4: winter is coming Season 5: winter is coming Season 6: winter is coming Season 7: winter is coming Season 8 episode 1: winter is coming Season 8 episode 2: winter is here Season 8 episode 3: winter is over Wtf
I have been waiting so long to see how that bitch Cersei would deal with the 'real' villain she's been mocking all this time.. but now she can just laugh off the most menacing and highly anticipated foe of the whole entire fucking tv show. Now I just wished I read the books and never seen this show.
also another thing... Why was the library so quiet? Why at any point was the inside of winterfell quiet? There are 3 dragons fighting outside as well as what I can assume is a battle with over 100,000 men and undead fighting and screaming... Why is it so quiet I can hear a mouse fart? Oh yeah... tension.
"This episode was super dark." "Well it had better be, seeing as how it's the decisive battle with the White Walkers and the Night King. I'd imagine a lot of important people were going to die." "No, I mean I couldn't see shit. Only like two people died lol."
No one needed to come over. No extra armies. No dragons. Everyone needed to kill the white walkers were already there. Jon snow left winterfell for no reason - they didn't even need dragon glass!!! All they needed was bran, arya and the fucking dagger. The end
Why did they even go that far north of the wall to get a wight to show Cersei and Daenarys? Take some low life criminal on death row and kill him on the other side of the wall. Anyone that dies north of the wall turns into a wight at that point in the show. If they did this then NK doesn’t kill any dragons and wall is never breached. They would have to build ships or cross the bridge of skulls at westwatch-by-the-bridge. Also why are the heavily armored knights of the vale not on horseback? I’m sure heavily armored lancer cavalry would do much better in a charge than the Dothraki would with kopesh swords and some horse archers here and there.
I don't understand why everyone is so upset with Jon screaming at the dragon. He hid, he thought it was looking the other way, and then he popped out and got caught dead to rights, what the hell else was he gonna do?
@@DrRockso1987 No, Jon had already hidden and ran from the dragon a few times. He was sure he would become undead if he lost the battle. He didn't know about Arya and her plan. So, he thought it was all on him, and when he got caught dead to rights he screamed in anger because he was sure death had won and he had failed the entire world.
@@eds6755 You dont understand how stupid it is? There is either 2 logical fucking options to commit to. You either stab the fucking dragon in its head before it breathes fire at you, or you fucking run. In what world are you living in that screaming at the dragon is actually a fucking idea. Screaming in anger does not fucking help, unless your purpose is to fucking die. Screaming at monsters is a FUCKING comedy trope, its not meant to be FUCKING TAKEN SERIOUSLY
You have to at least admire Maisie Williams for beng honest and vocal about her disappoinment, even though she was excited to do the scene, but she knew it was stupid and bad writing. Even someone as young and inexprienced as Maisie could see what hacks D&D were at writing.
Shes not even that young or inexperienced she's an adult with adult opinions and this is the worst writing in the world it's not that hard to notice how terrible it is. Especially if you're part of it
Nope this review is an injustice First viewing everyone will read into the episode differently but how we perceive it will determine our willingness to bring it to life. There is a song of ice and fire, a pacing between light and dark and an elegant dance between writer and director. When we get the well light visible footage that is the creators telling you, pay attention we’re trying to show you something, when it goes dark hampering your view that is the director saying you’re in the moment now. Know you’re aware of the intricate relationship of the footage. It twists and bends around each other and welds together to form the visual present that you’re in. The episode is a complete show, there is no tell but if you pay attention to what they are clearly showing you. You get the first payoff, they have made the viewer be the ones to tell the tail. This doesn’t mean you go about it as I’ve stated before with your own ideas. The concept of the episode is that everything that is going on is happening in precent time. So placing ideas like changing up the battle plan is not going to enlighten you or help the situation as it is already in motion. It is the pawn pieces in play at the beginning. The Dothraki and one tiny Jorah. All on horses ready to charge. Previous dialogue has Jon stating in a speech that we cannot defeat the dead in a straight fight. But way are the Dothraki doing the exact opposite. This all comes down to how crafty the dialogue and building of the show is (tick 2). The dialogue in the previous episode comes over as a speech but the dialogue when moved into the present comes across as Jon trying to tell the Dothraki there actions will not work. We now know why the Dothraki are heading a charge. All those Jorah conversations with daenerys about the ways of the dothraki and how they only follow a person of strength is the reason they didn’t listen to the little crow of the North. They didn’t want to change or adapt to the treat, treating it as a normal battle. You get the visual to allow you to get this information but you need to get the ability to tell the part from previous episodes. So the first payoff given to you by the writer, is a great reward for your devotion to the show if you’re not too lost in the dark in order to find it. The viewer is essential a three eyed raven. Viewing the past to bring information into the present allowing it to make sense. Then the director takes over and now you are in the charge with the Dothraki. You get to see it exactly as they would when riding out to meet their maker. So they charge like they normally would, you get to see tiny Jorah hedge in the charge as he is aware this will not go well, then as soon as the first projectile lands we get a brief light up of what they just galloped into. Bringing forth the next payoff. You cannot fight the dead as you would a living army. You think your ideas for fighting the dead would be superior, it would never work as the writer has informed you that the outcome would be the same. Now you have an idea of how you can go about finding the payoffs hidden in the story. In writing there is always a reason for why things are happening and then the conclusion comes delivering all the payoffs.
@@joshuahopkins8747 It is only a joke if you are not willing to investigate it. On my channel I got audio and more script up for reading. As my ability to do recordings is limited.
@@joshuahopkins8747More gathered intel. All the payoffs are not structured to fall in place like dominos. It’s more like a treasure hunt. Like I said High Vaylerian is a hard language to translate. So I’ve addressed that the payoffs to sticking to the source material are in the episode, we need to move on. The next thing you need to know is that game of thrones has always had two stories in motion the whole time. The past and the present. We don’t really think too much about this concept but when Arya kills the Night King. The scenes depicting her and those who aid her are progressing through the actions of the characters themselves making her journey the present. All scenes away from her and those not accompanying her need your interpretation of the past.
There is no team of writers for the show, it's only Benioff and Weiss. Yes really, they are actually that stupid and egotistic that they do all the writing for the entire show. Lesson of the story: the people in charge are often complete incompetent morons, see also: The Last Jedi
She is actually quite competent in that regard. She also leveled complaint at the directors in the chase scene with the waif, where she was running away wounded and thanks ro her, they toned it down. Imagine what crazy shit she'd do in thaz episode if she hadn't said anything lol. If anything, I really hope people only hate the directors but praise Williams. She did a good job, given the shit she had to work with.
@@peffiSC2source Sadly, the actors often get flack for the things writers and directors decide to do. See Anakin Skywalker for a perfect example. The actor isn't exactly the greatest thing ever but if you see him in other movies, he's alright. In most of Star Wars he's trash but that's not his fault. The writing was bad and Lucas is a terrible director.
@@peffiSC2source Honestly, if I was an actor I would take it as a compliment because it means you played your part so well people think it was actually real.
Mauler if you ever see this, I just want you to know, I come back and rewatch all 3 of these videos as a coping mechanism for the world's worst ending to a fantastic show, thank you for making these. They've slowly repaired my soul after it was shattered into smaller pieces that Arya shattered the night king.
Eventually, she came around to the idea, though, thanks in part to a call back to, and reunion with Melisandre. "When we did the whole bit with Melisandre, I realized the whole scene with [the Red Woman] brings it back to everything I’ve been working for over these past 6 seasons-4 if you think about it since [Arya] got to the House of Black and White," she said. "It all comes down to this one very moment. It’s also unexpected and that’s what this show does. So then I was like, ‘F*ck you Jon, I get it.’”
"I grieve for him as well. For the boy he was, not the man he grew to be." - Stannis Baratheon. In this instance, "the boy" is Seasons 1-4, and the "man" is Seasons 7 and 8.
@@Longshanks1690 - Completely changes the tone from a series where the more tactical characters are ones to succeed to one where good guys win against bad guys. - "Hold the Door" was a poor time paradox. - Arya's whole story with the Waith was pure plot armour and her suddenly learning to master face changing and bake pies made little sense. - Cersei receiving no consequences for having burnt down the most important religious building in Westeros and those within it, as well as betraying the series' premise of succession being complicated (the entire basis of the War of the Five Kings) by immediately making her queen. - Jon Snow becomes a Gary Stu who gains the support of the entire north when he would've had no chance without the army of the Vale. - Tyrion going from being excellent at political manoeuvres to being a failure in Mereen, as well as the entire Mereen plot having been made a waste of time. Sure, Seas 6 definitely wasn't awful...
The episode immediately after Tywin's death on the shitter is noticeably worse, lol. They are completely fucking clueless without GRRM and they cant write old-English sounding dialogue to save their fucking lives so they just gave up and all the characters talk like Americans now. This show really went down the tubes, it astounds me how people dont notice.
Jennifer Jackson: *_Praises this show_* "It's got royalty, dragons, magic... it's right up your alley" Me: *_Watches this video, hears "Are you taking the fucking piss?!?"_* Welp, unless this series destroyed the entire Sword & Sorcery genre, I'm never watching this. Thank God for Harry Potter. *_EDIT; Me:_* SHE'S ANTI-LGBT?!?!? WTF FRANCHISE AM I SUPPOSED TO ENJOY BESIDES SAILOR MOON?!?!?!?
newLEGACY boy more like palpatine tripping down the stairs and breaking his neck in the end of the second episode. Like saurons tower breaking down bcs he got something in his eye. Like the shark in jaws beaching itself before killing anybody. Like smaug dying bcs he was bathed in gold. Like the one piece being an old swimsuit with skidmarks inside. Like baywatch with fat, flat chested trans women running around with their cocks out. Like that princess killing buwsur rendering super mario a useless turd jumper.
Rian Johnson approved of this episode. Just check his Twitter. He makes fun of the imaginary people that didn't like The Last Jedi because it didn't match up with their fan theories.
@@happybureaucrat1311 In the same timeline that we got The Last Jedi and GoT S8E3, we also got INFINITY WAR and ENDGAME. Literal evidence that there is a god because THAT is nothing short of a miracle.
@@berserkasaurusrex4233 It´s hilarious right? In his mind, setting up a character and doing nothing with him is the new meta. Oh, was your theory that Im gonna do something? That would suck!
DamienDarksideBlog read the books. Even though they’re not finished (yet!) I promise you they have virtually nothing in common with this piss poor imitation
@@DamienDarksideBlog I'm glad for you too, just imagine this. Huge villain that is neglected by everyone but the Night's Watch until the end, is shown to be almost unstoppable, episode before the big fight is pure dialogue and sadness and everyone saying everyone is going to die. Then the fight happens and 2 characters die and the entirety of the enemy force is destroyed and the symbolism the whole show was trying to push (throne not important, it's life vs death) is destroyed with them. Btw this was built up over 9 years...
When you realize that the Night King could have just kept sending blizzards for a week or two and forced Jon and co to either abandon the castle to avoid a large chunk of the army from freezing to death/deserting, or forced Jon's army into marching from the castle to fight him at a location of the Night Kings choosing. Sun Tzu's The Art of War 101.
He didn't even need to send blizzards, he could have just done a traditional siege and starved the defenders out. Whitewalkers are perfect for conducting a siege. They don't need to be fed or paid, they don't get demoralized from long campaigns away from home, and they don't die off from disease.
we didnt even see a winter. Stannis' men froze to death but the night king who "brings the cold storm" didnt even do sheeeeeett. not one person froze to death in the "LONG WINTER" because it all happened in ONE fruckingggg night. WTFFF
What infuriates me is that a large story in an omnibus handles an undead invasion like this a million times better than a multi-million dollar show. Gotrek and Felix, while set in the Warhammer Fantasy world with vastly different magic systems and technology (mostly renaissance stuff for the main human faction) still understands the very basics of this kind of this shit, AND actually dives into some nuances of how a siege like this would go. This shouldn't have been a one-episode thing. Winterfell is a massive fortress with countless defenders and some of the most brilliant minds in the setting. This should have been a long, drawn out siege of attrition, where the Night King is sending wave after wave of his minions against the walls of a fortress that the defenders have spent weeks preparing. It should have been a series of brutal, violent battles where the defenders spent day after day throwing back countless waves of wights, fighting to the brink of exhaustion while the dragons wear themselves to the bone trying to burn as many of the wights as possible. The defenders employ every defensive tactic under the sun: oil, spike traps, spear walls, holding key choke points. Everything. But the wights just keep on coming. Each character would get their moment to shine contributing to the defense while trying to work under the pressure of the fate of the world on their shoulders. But nope.
@@Aredel The night king could and should have just starved and freeze them. He has all the time in the world. Every dead defender will be a new zombie. So it's a matter of time, a week max. 5 minutes of this ridiculous siege was way too long, let alone 45.
@@ronhoek69 The problem is that Winterfell had been preparing for that kind of situation for months. They have the granaries and wood stocks to wait out a siege for years if needed. Massive blizzards wouldn't take their toll for a while.
Rian Johnson actually made a tweet along the lines of "oh darn, but what about my night king theory?" Fucker can't stop shitting on fans. Fuck that pos and fuck this episode.
@Dr Boom who the fuck follows ruin johnson and who care if they ruin the show at this point they won't be able to get the viewers they would have had if they were good writers after i will be VERY surprised if ruin johnson or dumb and dumber EVER get good viewership again
The play-by-play was appreciated because I legitimately couldn't fucking see half the shit happening in the opening part of the battle and I really don't want to rewatch it.
Vasa Yeah, wtf is wrong modern movies ? *_I CAN’T ENJOY A MOVIE IF I CAN’T SEE IT !!! I’VE PAID THE MOVIE TICKETS OR MY NETFLIX/HULU/AMAZON PRIME/CABLE SUBSCRIPTIONS TO FUCKING SEE IT AS OPPOSED TO_** NOT **_SEE IT !!!!_*
The tech sites are chalking that up to people complaining about the darkness as having sh*tty TVs or viewing it on small devices such as iPads and smartphones.
It's like chess, you always start by opening up your queen and sending it to the opposite side of the board to kill all the pawns, without protecting or being protected by any other pieces.
Maybe if they had obsidian tipped arrow volleys instead of investing in fortifications and variety of fighters, the dead wouldn't be able to reach Winterfell's walls.
@Grumpy Avocado Why, back in my day, our cavalry couldn't see two feet in front of them. Because if you have absolutely no lighting that will make your show look good.
Jon Snow: has been building up to fight the Night King since Season 1: Pretty much no interaction with him this episode Arya Stark: found out about him like a week ago: murders him with ease
Jon went on a Benny Hill style chase of the Night King the entire episode and Arya just teleports behind him and dunks on him. I’d like to see an after credit scene of Jon running into the Godswood out of breath telling them how he killed a dragon with a scream and that he is here to fight the Night King. That would bring the comedy of this episode to full circle.
IronEmperor this is fucking stupid to me. You can’t complain about “convenient plot” and then be okay with Jon magically being the one to kill him out of the thousands of people there just because he was “supposed to.” Get a grip.
I just realised that the undead dragon blows a massive hole in Winterfell's huge stone wall in one shot, and then later it can't kill Jon with it's fire because he's hiding behind a tiny little stone. LOL.
The reason for that is because the undead dragon is badly injured by the time it goes after Jon. You can see a couple of shots of it as it tries firing but the blue fire isn't coming out properly. It's not a plot hole, it's just not very clear because it's so dark it's nearly impossible to see anything...
William Vinopål de Cordova Seriously. What was the point of building trebuchets if you are only going to use them once? What a waste of time and resources.
@@jal7852 It's like The Last Jedi. You start to unravel a piece of the story and it falls to pieces, exposing even more loose strings. Then the whole episode falls apart.
Just let Tywin and Robb take a look at the battle plan for this episode Their unbridled rage will rival a thousand dragons and obliterate the Night King's army ten times over.
Tru dat! You know, if they reboot the Matrix, one pill is going to be a laxative and the other with be a laxative, but one that taste like Skittles... Morpheus be all: I had to subvert your expectations, Holdo' but now, do you want some cake? Oh, also, Porgs...
Gotta give Maisie credit even she knew it was stupid. I remember she said something similar when Arya got stabbed in the stomach and then proceeded to run through Bravoss
Maisie and her BF made a complete laughing stock out of these retards running this shit. That's just embarrassing. Sounds a LOT like Mark Hamill begging Disney to not be completely mentally ill.
Sacrificing an entire story arc, absolutely destroying character arcs and throwing 7 seasons of buildup out the window for a subversive "you go girl" moment. Disgraceful.
@@Kazserah yeah Arya killed all the family members of the house that DESTROYED her house, a plot she deserved to bring to a closure, what more did they want from her to be the superman of the series destroying every bad guy, this was a disaster
I'm pissed about everything, but the destruction of Sam's story arc pisses me off the most. What happened to the years of him gaining courage, learning how to fight despite his fear, and becoming a man who's willing to fight and die to protect his family and friends? Now he's just a big coward baby bawling in the middle of the chaos who's too insignificant for the enemy to even bother to kill.
I wasn't for a “you go girl” it was because, and I am using the words of D&D here “Jon killing the Night king was too predictable”. This reminds me of a quote I don't know where it is from “when you write your Story, so it ends up that the butcher did, but the readers figure it out before you finish the Story, so you rewrite it as the butler did it instead, you just end up ruining your own story”.
Did you forget that they attacked the umber castle before winterfell? Obviously the umber kid killed all the other giants, didn’t you know that giants weakness is little children?
When giant pick up the little girl, she dropped her axe right. But where did she find that dragon glass sword she could hide somewhere in her clothes cuz when giant throw her she cut herself. Also the sword is almost her length?
@@szymonitaherrero9737 I watch Preston and he's good but (especially when he's with Carmine) he's a bit watered down. This pure unbridled fury. This is my inner voice
Four episodes a go Jamie was organising a defence of Kings Landing against the Dothraki and Unsullied, behind the castle walls preparing boiling tar to repel them. A season earlier he is advising the Frey's on siege tactics yet here he's mute.
So true! Dumb&Dumber made all the characters with years of training, battle experience and siege experience completely useless. Everything had to go to shit so Arya ex Machina could have her Girl Power moment. Because, subverted expectations.
He had to take orders from Breanne, the knight of the seven kingdoms who has zero military strategy experience because he’s not the fight he used to be!
Last guy that asked to know the plan was tazed by Mary-Leia-Poppins, besides, that's Pasma! She'd throw him in a pit of fire after cracking his skull open, since he's been deflecting her questions and refusing to subvert... Uhg, I mean submit. Also, she's short-handed at the moment, but I think that's Halot of Reaching... Anyway, he'll be back in season nine, nobody is ever really gone.
Please please PLEASE make a review of the last episode. I know it's been a long time, but I love your take on these and I constantly listen to them, it gets me through the day.
Game of Thrones: Filmmakers who don't understand history, the military, religion, human interactions or how to make satisfying fantasy trying to describe all of these things quickly and distract from their own bad logic with visual effects.
This is pretty much what happens when greedy producers throw out the source material that made all of this possible (the book series) and basically just pad out the series with fanfiction instead. Imagine the "What the Fuck?!" face George R.R. Martin must have had when seeing this episode.
@@thirty-three7546 Indeed. Fanboys wanted a spectacle, and they got it. The plot doesn't make sense? No one cares. Just give the popcorn munchers some epic scenes, they're gonna be happy.
I've got a signed poster by the guy then a friend has and she is just absolutely livid to the point that she almost destroyed the thing, thank God it was in one of those cases that are meant to be indestructable
"Oh, my sweet summer child... What do you know of fear? Fear is for the winter, when the snows fall a hundred feet deep. Fear is for the long night, when the sun hides for years and children are born and live and die all in darkness. That is the time for fear, my little Lord, when the white walkers move through the woods. Thousands of years ago there came a night that lasted a generation. Kings froze to death in their castles, same as the shepherds in their huts. And women smothered their babies rather than see them starve, and wept and felt the tears freeze on their cheeks... They swept through cities and kingdoms, riding their dead horses, hunting with their packs of pale spiders, big as hounds..." -- Old Nan, season 1, ep 3 After the white walkers breached the wall, Westeros should've been sent into Eldritch, icy apocalypse. We should've seen empty farms, silenced and smothered by cold snow. We, the viewers, should've been allowed to live in that terrible new Hell for a while (more than one episode), and we should've felt the desperation of those who were left. "The Long Night"? What a joke. More like the "The Mildly Irritating Evening". Were the humans of a thousand years ago really so incompetent that they let themselves be overrun by the bumbling comedy troupe that call themselves the White Walkers? Our main characters, even after devising legitimately the worst battle strategies put to parchment, beat them ON THIER FIRST CONFRONTATION with barely any cost. I guess the ultimate twist Game of Thrones had to offer was that Winter was never really Coming at all. How satisfying. Why did the powers-that-be resurrect Jon? Not for the presumably world-ending icy disaster on the horizon... So he could fight a drunkard manic-depressive (and her horny "evil" frat-boy sidekick) - who has no right still being Queen considering her people would've revolted six times by now - for a throne that has been squabbled over for generations? Why tf would Jon even care who sits on the damn thing -- for his ENTIRE 7 SEASON ARC HE HAS BEEN UP NORTH, PREPARING FOR THE MOMENT HE WOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE NO PART IN. Even worse, this proves that self-destructive Cersei was RIGHT for scoffing at the idea of an "army of the dead" and her foolish "lol let them duke it out up there why should I care" attitude was apparently NOT foolish but in fact a stroke of genius! The maesters who laughed around their table at these fairy tales of doom can keep laughing -- they were right. Turns out the threat WAS greatly exaggerated. Your average schmuck living his life down in the Riverlands has probably not even noticed a change in the weather. This was the "winter" they teased us with for 8 years. Unreal. Fucking Bronn handily outlived the Night King. Grey Fucking Worm isn't even scathed. Now we can expect a mindless, cookie-cutter good vs. crazzzy (evilll) conflict for a spiky metal chair to occupy the next three episodes. All the heroic characters have amassed and moved to one side of the stadium, and all of the moustache-twirling villains have obediently filed to the other -- Now fight! What an epic, intrigue-filled game of thrones guys. Jesus Christ.
Damn what a cathartic read this post is. Seriously though, it’s really my fault for getting so invested in this show. This isn’t the game of thrones I fell in love with.
This season should have been 10 episodes long, like all the rest and taken several episodes to build up the horror that is the Long Night. Seriously, GoT has to be the biggest show on television right now. How much money have they made? They couldn’t afford a bigger budget for its last season? Or did the show runners and writers decide that they couldn’t competently write that story?
Lennie Smalls Very well put. I was really hoping this show wouldn't go out the way Lost did, but sadly it's shaping up to. I can't wait to read the true ending of the story.
*Opens video* "WTF! Have you guys done" Me: *Sits back in serenity* "Good, Mauler good......................kill them............ kill them now." It is the unbridled way
Seasons 1-4: "When you play the game of thrones you either win or you die!" Seasons 5-8: "When you play the game of thrones you either win, die, or get constantly, conveniently deus-ex-machina'd by David Benioff and Dan Weiss." This episode saddened me deeply.
@@danield11711 whats sad is seasons 5-7 does have sparsely brilliant episodes within them. I still love Battle of the Bastards, Oberyn getting murdered by the Mountain, and Hardhome remains one of my favorite TV episodes ever. But the level of quality writing from these seasons is egregiously inconsistent. And I dont like being a hater, but I'm calling a spade a spade here. I havent even read the books but I'm thinking about doing so now.
@Kratos the battle of the bastards was shit too. The battle made no sense with similar bad tactics and plot holes as the long night. Then you have basically everything sansa did involving that battle and it was just a joke.
Well when you think about it, that's sort of what happened in A New Hope. Han emerged from seemingly out of nowhere to shoot at Vader's tie fighter while Vader was chasing Luke
I Hernandez I have to disagree bro. The predator was a lot more forgivable. But this..but THIS..this watching my mom being raped and then I was adopted by the rapist levels of bad
That moment you realise Melisandre arriving was unexpected and so the fire araks were a bonus. Meaning they were originally going to charge with the fire-less versions, even blinder and less effective.
End me.
Edit: I can see a lot of people want coverage for episode 4, what I can tell you is that I have already began working on a season 8 recap in total and it will hopefully release soon after the last episode does...stay tuned folks, it's gonna be long....*sigh*
And hilariously they didnt even give them proper weapons to counter the dead. Yeah........ Hilarious. I guess they were clearly expecting Melisandre to warp in and do her magic, except they werent. *facepalm*
I heard horses do great when you run them into a wall of darkness.
Not *less* effective, *completely* ineffective. They weren't made of Valyrian steel. They were sending the Dothraki to their 100% certain death and contribution to the army of the undead. And not one of the Dothraki paused for a second and thought, "Wait a minute..."
I really like your Video, u pointed all of the bullshit. I find it hilarious that you are got fucked up by the same things as I.
all I want is a show to be smarter than me. I'm not a scholar I only have a passing knowledge of midlevel siege tactics and battle tactics. I'm sure there's plenty of books that have accounts of battles to draw inspiration from. Christ a decent rts game will teach you not to attack the front lines with cavalry.
Littlefinger thought he was clever, but he didn't think to have the camera cut away from him, then he would still be alive
Panheim I actually laughed and I rarely laugh 😂
littlefinger repeat after me
I!
DEMAND!
TRIAL!
BY!
COMBAT!!!!!!1!!1!!111oneoneoneone
Panheim
, He was clever before until we realized it is now 2019 and its about stronk wahman so he got "me tooed".
And he was killed by Arya too. She's going to kill everyone, isn't she?
Lady Bladebinder certainly going to kill Cersei. Don’t know about her killing the mountain though. I imagine they’ll make the hound fight him so all the bar reactions can see “cleganebowl”
Imagine telling yourself 2 weeks ago that the character death you’d be most upset about after the Battle of Winterfell was the Night King
Fuck you're right..
I watched Ed die and thought 'yeah, alright, somebody had to I guess'
I watched NK die, and my head was in my hands.
Makes you think what could have been...
I actually think they still could have had Arya kill the NK - IF they did it correctly.
If we saw what Dan and Dave promised: "A showdown between Jon and the NK is coming. One more intense than Hardhome, more intense than Beyond the Wall. It's going to shock the fans"
If we saw Jon, Briene, Jamie, Jorah or anyone with Valerian Steel fight and kill the WW's and then Jon went 1v1 vs the NK- I can totally see the NK winning that fight and kicking Jon's ass, but before the NK can kill Jon- he's saved from Arya.
It's a payoff that would have more worthy than the one that we got.
Devin Daily they could do anything if it was written with a modicum of thought lol. Tyrion could’ve killed the Night King if they bothered trying to write it
Well, it's like if Darth Vader had chocked to death on a peanut allergy and Jabba was the main boss, above the Emperor...
"Nemesis a worthy is ones proof of nobility."
The plot armour in the episode was so thick, that even Sean Bean would've survived.
Probably.
No amount of plot armour would save Sean Bean you could have him covered head to toe in plot armour even then somehow Sean Bean dies. No but really seriously no one important died I mean come on even Ser Davos survives and he was on the fucking wall last I checked.
@JoeRingo118 he switched places with Joffrey at the last minute and has been wearing his face ever since!
@JoeRingo118 they've been hinting at it since season 1. He traded Joffrey's face for Stannis, and from Stannis moved on to Brienne. He will reveal his true identity after he kills Cersei using Jaime's face. These show writers are utterly brilliant!
😂
Nice :)
The Zombies in the library were desperately searching for a better plot
this comment right here is absolutely underrated
they didn't find one unfortunately.
This is funny AF.
Naah 💀
They were extras who were scheduled to he on the walking dead, but they got lost and were searching the library for an Atlas Map book so they can figure out how to get to thr right set.
A boar in season one killed more main characters then the Night King....think about that
Clearly the boar should have been the final villian. Would have been just as insulting.
he is less useful than a fucking pig....jesus christ...
Kinda wish i saw it return...
AS AN UNDEAD BOAR!
LordOfThePizzaPie the fun part about that is, that there is actually a bunch of hints that the boar was warged by bloodraven (at least in the book). So indirectly, the boar might actually be a villain in the book
The boar killed King Robert, but the Night King killed Eunuch Theon. But in GoT lore, Eunuchs make the best fighters... and siblings are the best lovers!
Tywin Lannister is tied to a chair in hell, forced to watch this episode over and over again.
This video's audio is just Mauler reciting Tywin's screeching.
😂👍
Implying Tywin wouldn't be in Heaven
Fuck off show!
ah ha ha
"The battle of winterfell will be bigger than Helm's Deep"
Laughs in Uruk-Hai
@@valentinlopatko disagree. They slammed cavalry into pikemen.
@@valentinlopatko and the cav won.
@@whitecreamymilk8436 in all fairness, it was heavy calvary doing the charge and they had a literal angel on their side (Gandalf). though they could have done a better job showing that the light he used actually hurt them, not just made them recoil. broke up the spear/pike wall at least.
@@Chirishman343 i realize that. But again it was also said this army was specifically made to kill cav. And they set up the pikes and never moved them.
Also the horse bridge scene was bad.
I dont think he knew how cav worked. I say this and i actually liked twin towers more then return of the king. It was a great battle the cav tactics still sucked.
I liked the warg tactics earlier on though. I thought it actually worked. But cav in the seige didnt imo.
@Dr Boom to be honest....that cavalry charge was too fantastic. I mean yeah cavalry is nice but it should have gone as it did in game of thrones.
Tywin Lannister is spinning aggressively in his grave.
Like a beyblade.
Gear of the North?
XD
Tyblade
Beyblade, let him RIP.
@@renard6012 Rotate In Peace.
They cut away from Sean Bean's execution. Maybe he survived.
Nah Sean Bean always dies.
I wish I could like this 100 times... LOL XD
One of the best comments I have ever seen(:
Just immagine that being the final twist
No sword could pierce that epic mullet.
"Madness. Madness and stupidity" - Tywin fooking Lannister
Season 1 : "500 men could hold Winterfell against 10 000"
Season 8 Plant the entire army outside the walls.
"Also, make sure the flame-throwing trebuchets go in FRONT, outside the walls, so they will be overrun."
"Seriously, do NOT put them inside the castle walls where they would keep being useful until the walls were breached."
I just heard the Rome: Total War defeat music after seeing that bullshit.
Hey, it worked very well for Ramsey Bolton... oh wait, no it didn't.
Just like ramesy i guess they don't understand why castles and cities used to be surrounded by walls
@@@kikima258 They don't understand how walls work, period. Houses still have walls for the same reason: so you'll know where people could come into the house. You don't sleep in a sleeping bag under just a roof, do you? If it isn't surrounded by walls you're a hobo and will be robbed by the other hobos. Conglaturations!
A year later, and I still can't believe how bad that episode was.
all the hard work for nothing
Tbh when I watch the episode on my phone, its so dark and pitch black, I didn't see anything after the cavalry charge. And the screen only brightens when the dragons appear but 60% of the time are pitch black
You spelled "Season" wrong eric
And it wasn't even the worst episode of the season
Genuinely, i didnt hate this episode. It was easily the best of the season on that score alone
I throw in the shots you could actually see since it was TOO FUCKIN DARK
when a wedding kills more characters (significant ones) than the zombie apocalypse LOL
Omg you're right...
My head hurts
How do you fail that hard?
Baby Stark Stab stab stab stab st-stab
st-stab st-stab
Momma Stark Stab stab stab stab st-stab
st-stab st-stab
Daddy Stark Stab stab stab stab st-stab
st-stab st-stab
Grandma Stark Stab stab stab stab st-stab
st-stab st-stab
The power of a woman. Do you do you do you feel the power?!?!? (Slits throat).
@@Link0304 absolutely piss poor writers that don't deserve the money they make
The biggest insult is that the Night King was killed off prematurely to set up Cersei as the final boss, only to have her killed by a few bricks 😂
It's almost like they were TRYING to piss off the fans and destroy any credibility this series once had! XD
Cartoon Critique I remember watching the earlier seasons, loving the main plot but always looking forward to the Nights Watch segments, and always thinking that the white walkers would build and build and eventually become the main focus, and season 7 teased that they would be, so disappointing how it turned out :/
and pretty much her entire screen time for the last season was basically her standing around looking stern. i'd be pissed if i was Lena Heady, they screwed her over
@@umphreak9999 Seems like a lot of the actors of the show felt screwed over by this last season.
Danys transition to the mad queen was so rushed imo, and all Jon did this season was yell at a dragon and say my queen a thousand times, such a waste
31:25 - "The Dothraki and Unsullied have been wiped from the show. Then again, I'm sure they will be fully re-stocked next episode...." holy shit you weren't kidding. Perfect prediction.
exactly! haha
those extra 50% of the unsullied+dothraki forces would've been useful in the battle (or perhaps not)
Not to mention in the final episode, the Unsullied seem to have a force larger than the one that they started with back when Dany first acquired them from the slavers. Since they are eunuchs, maybe they replicate via mitosis?
this aged well
@@tommytheotaku828 anything new happen since
Every time you said "I guess it was for the visual," I squinted and said, "visual?"
Somehow I imagine seeing what's going on would be worse
That was my reaction when he showed the two scenes with Jon side by side to show how different the backdrop was, except they were so dark I couldn't see a thing.
I imagine a nosebleed every time
visuals were shittttttt
if i wanted to watch a few lights in the dark i would type Nice Fire work desplay on youtube.
everything was shitttttt..even that sound effacts or lack of. all shittttt
"...but we cut away before that happens so they're fine."
This should be a meme.
"This should be a meme." It's pretty much the episode.
Lmao no not another screw up. just another point this ep was very poorly planned, great visual to many wtf questions
No one is never really gone
Other things that the cut away can solve:
- Speeding tickets
- Pregnancy prevention
- Climate change
- Poverty
- Depression
- Erectile dysfunction
- Hoarding
- Acne
- Tax bills
- Denuclearization
- Insomnia
- etc.....
"No one's every really gone ;)"
When the Night King died I turned to my GF and said: "Don't worry. No one's ever really gone."
Ouch 😂
and that's when she packed her shit and left.
Lmao
Is this replacing half in the bag?!...
@@JohnDoe-gu7eh 😂😂😂
This episode gave me cancer.
Luckily, they cut away so I was fine.
is this the new update for the hiding under the dumpster meme?
@Highlander Steve I was being shot at in Vietnam
Luckily, they cut away so I was fine.
Hahaha good one!
I commited seppuku. Luckily, they cut away so I was fine!
Cateful- Euron still might teleport out of the water and give it to you!
I am a tactical enthusiast, I did had a god damned stroke watching this episode. I actually screamed out loud. Only someone who knows medieval tactics could do this much wrong. They had to know what to do right, and do the opposite.
So your expectations were successfully subverted. 10/10 D&D are GENIUSES. Geniuses, I tells ya.
@@chasm671 you invite harm upon yourself, you jester you.
> a tactical enthusiast
Sounds like someone who is enthusiast for tactical purposes :D
Crispy Mormon I know absolutely nothing about battle tactics, but I do know what fire and a wall are, and had the same response.
@@Itried20takennames
Me no big brain neither, but even _me_ know hot light and biggy bricks used for!
>has castle.
>fights in front of the walls.
Even Total War AI isn’t this dumb.
@Allan Mulrian True, but unlike here MATN uses his archers on the walls first then has his cavalry flank and not rush heavy infantry at the start of the battle.
Do you not think that the white walkers have any brains at all, and would siege the unsullied/dothraki/whatever inside winterfell until they all starve?
Spear/shieldwalls outside of the walls can be useful (especially when the enemy has no firepower) because it buys your archers on the walls more time to shoot at the enemy, though clearly nobody on the wall was taking advantage of this anyway
Allan Mulrian and I can win a siege battle without losing a single man because I don’t do that. I meant the AI knows it should keep its men inside the castle, not that to fight the AI you should.
Adrian Chung irrelevant, in my scenario the player is the wights, the AI is the humans. Sod it the AI is both, it still makes a better fight with better tactics. Yes human player is better, but if we start comparing this shitshow to human players let’s be honest, it is a worse comparison.
Blue flame can:
- destroy the magic wall
- destroy the castle wall
Blue flame cannot:
- penetrate a boulder when Jon is behind it.
Having John Snow behind a boulder instantly buffs it with +10 dragonfire resistance.
It should have.... hes immune to fire anyway. Because Targarien and shit. Great way for him to kill the frigin dragon. Just walk into the flame and stick the sword into its mouth. But naaaah we can't have epic moments for our White males. Only little girls can be epic. Because that is progressive or something like that.
@@MrFallenone makes you wonder why Danni was ducking down to avoid the Dragon fire the Night King was using against her?
strange, but true.
@@MrFallenone guess the blue fire is different. Targariens are not protected against it ? Not sure what the books say about this very topic
Imagine if Gamora killed Thanos halfway through infinity war and they faught Hydra the rest of the time
Gamora would still make too much sense. It would have to be someone like Rocket Raccoon or Howard the Duck.
@@FiveofHearts1 fr though
It would still be marginally better than this dumpster-fire of a season.
@@tygerskull Make Pepper Potts kill Thanos halfway through Infinity War and Captain Marvel lead the avengers to victory against Hydra during Eng Game and we're getting close.
Then after Thanos’ army is defeated, Captain Marvel starts blowing up all the wizards and wakandans with her laser beams.
Okay so, let me get this straight:
-they have a castle
-they put their troops outside of the castle while defending the castle
They ignored the entire point of why castles exist.
Darksealer Pretty much.
Honestly, this is just a live adaptation of a noob defending against the Vampire Counts with Norsca in Total War: Warhammer. This is exactly what NOT to do in a siege battle.
They kind of... forgot that 500 men can defend Winterfell against 10,000
typhoonhurricane18 well, Ned Stark didn’t really consider the enemy was an army of zombies.
Antonio Sonntag even better the zombies aren’t gonna shoot back and they’re dumb so they could’ve easily funneled them into a choke point but no they had to keep their entire army outside the castle walls for some reason.
> Dothraki OP plz nerf!
> massive patch
Patch notes:
Nerf list:
Dothraki -5 common sense
Dragons -5 skill +50 durability
Night King: new critical hit box
White walker -500 perception
Plate armor now has leather armor ratings.
Dragon breath -50
I found this way, wayyyyyyy too funny. The first two lines really captured how it felt watching this.
Wights: -90% damage against heroes
Gray Worm: +500 selfishness
he just let all his brothers die, he all of a sudden cares about his life just because he's had sex when he doesn't even have a dick
They should have fought the dead at the Twins, fighting at Winterfell is so dumb.
You gotta admit the White Walkers were really good at walking.
and being white. What a suitable name.
That's top screenwriting right there.
They were also good at being racists being only white.
@@otakarbeinhauer They were not even good at that; they were all blue.
And hugging people
*Teleports behind Night King*
Nothing personnel kid.
What speed!
she ran past the white walkers and jumped towards the night king.
Tessian Rusu yes she ran at the speed of sound, without anyone seeing her......that makes total sense
*Teleports behind Night King*
"Nothing personal 8seasonsofbuildupwhichamountedtonothingmakingtheenitresubplotfornothing"
@@Hys868 dude she was hiding like on top of them dude like she has training dude like its battlefield so they cant hear her dude stop hating dude staaaaahp
"Shouting at a dragon isn't gonna do shit."
Looks like someone hasn't played Skyrim.
Well he's right, I don't think if Nazeem scream at a dragon would do much but annoy him
I take it the way you play Skyrim is on Novice, spending an entire hour between 30 second shouts of Fire Breath to kill one dragon.
Dandy Noble no you fool we do it on Legendary while butt chugging healing potions
Jon Snow is Dragonborn, he's a Targaryen
@@looinrims Chugging its illegal bro. its a Dark Soul law
Not five minute in and this is already the most incompetent game of Total War Warhammer I've ever seen. It seems they forgot which side of the map they were on and set their units up *backwards* .
That's truly terrible.... Total War AI AT LEAST keeps it's units behind the wall lmao
No joke I'm playing the Vampire Counts right now out of anger just to see a competent undead army wipe the living off the fucking face of theearth.
@БДЯЄTH Just to be clear, are you being sarcastic?
This does have my consent! By Sigmar and the Hammer!
That's not all they put there artillery right in the front so when the cavalry dies the artillery may deal enough close range damage to end them only to run out of ammo at the last second. The fucking Greenskins are better strategists than these people cause at least when they charge they are smart enough to ensure that some "sneaky git" is going to be right behind and ruin you and they are smart enough to launch squigs at you. At least they put their artillery right behind some big boyz.
Flashback to 2010.
Weiss: "So will you do it Sean, we're offering you a lot of money."
Bean: "What's the long-term endgame?
Weiss explains.
Bean: "Just kill me off in season one."
LMAO
Legend has it that Dumb and Dumber offered to make Ned Stark probably the first Sean Bean character in history not to die, but Bean asked to die anyway.
True
@@Gaminglord12 The legend can't be true; Sean Bean survived National Treasure and Percy Jackson & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief.
@@matthewmuir8884 Troy and Silent Hill, too.
This 37-min video is far more entertaining and logical than the entire final season of Game of Thrones.
*Anything since season 5
@@hououinkyouma3864 s5 is where the writing went to absolute shit levels shame the books weren't finished
@Robin Banks just gonna namedrop preston jacobs here
It's cathartic for sure
Holy shit, people weren't joking when they said that this episode was super dark.
This is as bad as avp requiem.
Cuz they meant LITERALLY?!
XD
@@joshualighttime604 almost the same issue
So, imagine if Wedge Antilles just leapt out of the shadows and killed the Emperor while Luke was just in a forest shouting up at the Death Star.
Dave Awesomesauce u absolute genius
Really early on in the series.
That wouldn't work wedge is a man. It needs to be wedgina. There fixed it and made it woke for 2020. God I hope disney doesnt see my post. They probably would think its a good idea and make remake jedi.
@@insertrandomnamehere764 Eww, I didn't know sewer rats knew how to use the internet. Crawl back into your hole dude.
They already did. A scavenger girl killed the most powerful Sith in the Galaxy ,who can destroy space fleet by lighting, by just crossing two stolen lightssabers.... And yes, Ep9 is remake of Ep 6.
My respect for Maisie Williams skyrocketed from the quote at the end.
Same. Arya has always been my favorite, but this was not her time to shine. Says a lot when the actress realizes it, but the producers don't.
Its never the actors fault. People should keep that in mind.
@@dw3134 True, but the problem arises when they agree with it, or even worse, use it to help push an agenda.
Yeah she was one of the actresses who actually read the books and dived as deep as she could into it. She learned how to sword fight left handed because the character in the books was left handed. Now she is ambidextrous because of it and actually helped form the idea of that double edged staff Gendry forges for her that can be broken and dual wielded.
Now only if D+D could’ve had the same attention to detail as Maisie did. You knew they were dumbass fucks when all they cared about in season 7 was getting a zombie polar bear somehow into an episode.
The only thing they did right was read the books before another producer did.
My respect for her boyfriend skyrocketed.
_I can feel this man's rage seething out of every word he says._
Obi-Wan Kenobi the Dark side is strong with this one
Especially from words like "fucknumpties".
And it nourishes and sustains me.
"Hello there!"
Are you fucking everywhere kenobi?
It is downright embarrassing that a show would go from famous for averting plot armor to infamous for excessive use of it.
Tbh ASoIaF still uses plot armor. Samwell should have died at the Fist, or at White Tree, or Crasters, and Jon should have died in the Skirling Pass. Its also never an important character that dies to happenstance, except maybe Khal Drogo and the infected wound.
I'm glad to have this 37 minute video to send to people to save me going through a 37 minute rant every time this episode is brought up
This and critical drinker's video.
Exactly, it saves us from screaming how everything is wrong with this episode.
Ayyyy, man I'm going to love your videos even more after seeing this
CreepsMcPasta, a man I already loved as a TH-camr is now even better in my book.
just sent it to two people i know to express my disappointment and rage
Euron's sentence in S7 about the "finger in the bum" was a subtle foreshadowing of what would happen to the viewer.
Almost choked on my breakfast 🤣
@INERT oh my God, completely forgot about that
INERT
I feel sick :(
Karim K
Nah the would feel less terrible than this shit
@Luke So true. I haven't felt this violated since The Last Jedi. But this is worse. I'm not a huge Star Wars fan, but ASOIAF was my favorite work of fiction and up until they ran out of source material, the show was my favorite show. I can't believe they destroyed 8 years of intrigue in a single episode. I've never seen a shark-jumping moment like this before. Considering the stakes and the fallout, this may be the single worst episode of television of all time.
I love the use of Mark Hamill in these videos :)
TLJ has literally become a symbol of whatthefuckery.
@@lennynero8614 Aaaaw, poor baby. Did someone insult your favorite movie franchise?
One thing I hope for. Is that TLJ didn't start a stupid fad on "subverting expectations"...
The Medieval Nerd it kinda did
why do i feel like TLJ served as source material for this episode rather than George Martin's "a song of ice and fire"
@@thebiggesttk It feels like TLJ's writers were involved.
For one second in time, Jon Snow thought he killed a dragon by screaming at it. In that moment he thought he truly was the chosen one.
He fucking fus ro dah'ed the dragon, Jon Snow is the dragonborn confirmed
I posted this to the GoT subreddit and got banned lol
r/gameofthrones are some fookin' kneelers. Post it to r/freefolk, surely they won't ban you.
those fuckers are just the typical twitter fans who just watch game of thrones because it is popular and they can tweet about it
@@spacepotato5524 r/asoiaf are cool with it too, it's already there www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/bjx2j8/spoilers_extended_game_of_thrones_s08e03_an
r/asoiaf is a little more receptive of criticism of the show.
I say, that was an illegal stab.
This episode marks the point where GoT became what it originally sought to deconstruct.
Worse, it did it awfully.
Yeah. When Frodo failed to destroy the ring and it ended up being golum out of no where, that made sense.
JagerIV Yeah, it did. Frodo failed, and in that moment of distraction and weakness, Gollum (who is consumed by his need for the ring), takes the opportunity to get the ring back. Gollum was so set on getting the ring that even when he was falling into Mt. Doom, he was still happy.
Gollum was only there to take back the ring, that was his only motivation.
vin 950 the Dorne storyline is actually one if my favorite storyline from the book which was soo good in the books but the show runners are retarded and ruined the whole show and plotline for me
@@MercurialStatic I didn't realize that person was being sarcastic. There's heavy foreshadowing that Gollum has a very significant role to play, it's highlighted many times, and when he destroys the ring it's a satisfying payoff. It rewards the mercy of both Frodo and Bilbo.
Arya coming out of fucking nowhere doesn't pay off any foreshadowing or complete any arcs. It's just a plot twist invented on the spot for the sake of avoiding the expected.
Well, Battle of the Bastards already did that honestly
YES!! As soon as I saw this episode I said out loud "Wow, it's too bad MauLer doesn't do Game of Thrones, he would have a field day with this one!".
And here we are!
I thought the same. Here we are. Let's see if this hits RedLetterMedia's radar.
I thought the same thing. It's good to be alive.
He heard you and rushed to the scene of the crime, like Batman.
@@raby760 RLM doesnt need click bait
A good franchise: *exists*
Bad writers: _Now I’ve become death; The destroyer of worlds._
Good analogy
Nah, they don't have any regrets.
God I hate Oppenheimer
@@lqlaliut897Why?
Lol that quote from Masie and her boyfriend, even the cast knew Dumb & Dumber shat the bed.
maisie williams is actually a very good actor and she has some great integrity.
Remember the stupid bravos chase scene where the waif chases arya and arya manages to effectively run despite being stabbed? Well it shows a few establishing shots of her struggling while the stitches tear apart yes?
That was her.
Because david and dan actually wanted arya to be fucking FREE RUNNING and parkouring using backflips with zero shots of her struggling. It had to take Maisie to say "no, my character would not be doing that, show me injured"
Obviously, this time, such a fuck up of immense proportions is beyond a single actors input
@@savannahkorben7353 Pretty much all the european media is anti-Orange Man tbh.
Plus each person has the right to have their own political ideas and express them, with some respect of course.
@The Mongoose Trump is just as stupid Like the showrunner
@The Mongoose The common folk think the earth is flat and vaccines cause autism. Too bad the media ignore those truths too, amirite?
@The Mongoose Trumps public approval ratings are lower than Bush, whose approval ratings were lower than Obama... less people showed up to vote during the 2016 election than any other presidential election in 20 years... YOU don't speak for all of us...
Snoked - (v.) When a character who is built up to be a major threat and a complex character has an untimely demise.
Good work. Now whats the verb for a show that jumps the shark in a Mary Sueish/ SJWish/ poorly written fashion? "My favorite franchise just got 'Reyed' and the goddamned Transformers are dead to me now." Idk
But the Night King was never built up as complex.
@@SlyScyther Yes he was. He was built up as infinitely complex - as Mauler said, TRANSCENDING G human characteristics. That was his entire arc. He is the embodiment of death, turned into a subpar human villain.
Reminds me of the tvtrope "dropped a bridge on him".
@@Arcessitor he never transcended human characteristics. The white walkers showed themselves to be sadistic and mocking. The night King smiles after surviving the dragon fire. Very human reaction.
The threat they represent goes beyond thrones, but does not transcend human nature.
Death is not complex
melissandre season 5: we have to sacrifice the princess to get warm
melissandre season 8: lights up the entire trench
stannis and shireen: -.-
🤣🤣🤣
could be argued that the dragons presence makes her magic stronger. but knowing thid showz i wouldn't count on that
The night is dark and full of Terr... ible writing.
The episode is dark and full of errors.
progressives and feminists
For The episode is dark and full of errors
The Night is unsatisfying and full of fans that will make excuses for this episode till they call you Nazi. Dumdum dada dumdum. Only drunks in Burlington Bar will love this regardless of it making no sense as the feels and visuals and themes. Pretty colours glug glug.
That episode was too dark and full of shit
Season 1: winter is coming
Season 2: winter is coming
Season 3: winter is coming
Season 4: winter is coming
Season 5: winter is coming
Season 6: winter is coming
Season 7: winter is coming
Season 8 episode 1: winter is coming
Season 8 episode 2: winter is here
Season 8 episode 3: winter is over
Wtf
Lmao that's perfect
Season 8 episode 4: winter is coming...startiiinnng... NOW!
5 seconds after season 8 epsiode 3
plebs: gosh i dont care about winter, thats just boring, i care about who sits on the throne HUURR DUUUH
@@aspiniou hugs and cries
I have been waiting so long to see how that bitch Cersei would deal with the 'real' villain she's been mocking all this time.. but now she can just laugh off the most menacing and highly anticipated foe of the whole entire fucking tv show. Now I just wished I read the books and never seen this show.
also another thing... Why was the library so quiet? Why at any point was the inside of winterfell quiet?
There are 3 dragons fighting outside as well as what I can assume is a battle with over 100,000 men and undead fighting and screaming...
Why is it so quiet I can hear a mouse fart? Oh yeah... tension.
It's a library; it's supposed to be quiet; right?
@@matthewmuir8884 Yup. And even the Dead know better than to upset The Librarian.
This is made possible because of a phenomenon known as «destructive interferance». Basically, different soundwaves cancel each other out.
Oh hi mark
Never thought to see Mark here.
"This episode was super dark."
"Well it had better be, seeing as how it's the decisive battle with the White Walkers and the Night King. I'd imagine a lot of important people were going to die."
"No, I mean I couldn't see shit. Only like two people died lol."
"Don't watch this episode! It's super stupid!"
"Why's that?"
"Jon shouts at a dragon"
"He WHAT?!?!?"
@@Alysa-Aiday"Yeah we kinda forgot Jon isn't the Dovahkinn"
Glad Emilia Clark spent almost the entire show bringing an army over that died in about five minutes.
No one needed to come over. No extra armies. No dragons. Everyone needed to kill the white walkers were already there. Jon snow left winterfell for no reason - they didn't even need dragon glass!!! All they needed was bran, arya and the fucking dagger. The end
Oh welll... she plays the Mad Queen...right? *Right?*
Totally disrespected Deanerys. I'm so mad
Why did they even go that far north of the wall to get a wight to show Cersei and Daenarys? Take some low life criminal on death row and kill him on the other side of the wall. Anyone that dies north of the wall turns into a wight at that point in the show. If they did this then NK doesn’t kill any dragons and wall is never breached. They would have to build ships or cross the bridge of skulls at westwatch-by-the-bridge. Also why are the heavily armored knights of the vale not on horseback? I’m sure heavily armored lancer cavalry would do much better in a charge than the Dothraki would with kopesh swords and some horse archers here and there.
But they respawned a few episodes later, so it's fine.
Jon’s scream wasn’t at the dragon it was at the idiot writers and the fact that he wasted almost a decade on this show.
I don't understand why everyone is so upset with Jon screaming at the dragon. He hid, he thought it was looking the other way, and then he popped out and got caught dead to rights, what the hell else was he gonna do?
Ed S - Run away?
@@eds6755 Seriously? WRONG!!!
He screamed at the dragon out of complete frustration not because they were playing hide and seek
@@DrRockso1987 No, Jon had already hidden and ran from the dragon a few times. He was sure he would become undead if he lost the battle. He didn't know about Arya and her plan. So, he thought it was all on him, and when he got caught dead to rights he screamed in anger because he was sure death had won and he had failed the entire world.
@@eds6755 You dont understand how stupid it is? There is either 2 logical fucking options to commit to. You either stab the fucking dragon in its head before it breathes fire at you, or you fucking run. In what world are you living in that screaming at the dragon is actually a fucking idea. Screaming in anger does not fucking help, unless your purpose is to fucking die. Screaming at monsters is a FUCKING comedy trope, its not meant to be FUCKING TAKEN SERIOUSLY
Game of thrones:
The plot armor is invincible...
The real armor is invisible....
Beautiful poetry
CrashBOREDOM Step one: "Kill it with fire!" Step 2: Subvert viewers expectations..." Step 3: Profit?
This is what happens when a war story is written by people that don't like war. Strategy? Tactics? What are those?
You have to at least admire Maisie Williams for beng honest and vocal about her disappoinment, even though she was excited to do the scene, but she knew it was stupid and bad writing. Even someone as young and inexprienced as Maisie could see what hacks D&D were at writing.
She did too? Can you give the link, i can't find any.
@@kv-2thekingofderp866 Ending of this video
Shes not even that young or inexperienced she's an adult with adult opinions and this is the worst writing in the world it's not that hard to notice how terrible it is. Especially if you're part of it
I would not call someone who’s been growing up working on the biggest tv show of all time, inexperienced.
@@hamzapetridis206acting doesn't give you experience in writing.
I think someone misspelled "Plate Armor" as "Plot Armor" in the script or notes and nobody in production caught it.
Thats a Plate Hole
@@nicolasoliveira4903 No way!?! _My shower drain has those!!!!_
Speaking of which when they go north why don’t they have plate armor why don’t the knights of the vale have different plate designs
Someone in the production team got his Plot served on a Plate.
Not the episode we want, but the episode review we all deserve.
not worth it and mauler would agree
Nope this review is an injustice
First viewing everyone will read into the episode differently but how we perceive it will determine our willingness to bring it to life. There is a song of ice and fire, a pacing between light and dark and an elegant dance between writer and director.
When we get the well light visible footage that is the creators telling you, pay attention we’re trying to show you something, when it goes dark hampering your view that is the director saying you’re in the moment now. Know you’re aware of the intricate relationship of the footage. It twists and bends around each other and welds together to form the visual present that you’re in.
The episode is a complete show, there is no tell but if you pay attention to what they are clearly showing you. You get the first payoff, they have made the viewer be the ones to tell the tail. This doesn’t mean you go about it as I’ve stated before with your own ideas. The concept of the episode is that everything that is going on is happening in precent time. So placing ideas like changing up the battle plan is not going to enlighten you or help the situation as it is already in motion. It is the pawn pieces in play at the beginning. The Dothraki and one tiny Jorah. All on horses ready to charge. Previous dialogue has Jon stating in a speech that we cannot defeat the dead in a straight fight. But way are the Dothraki doing the exact opposite. This all comes down to how crafty the dialogue and building of the show is (tick 2). The dialogue in the previous episode comes over as a speech but the dialogue when moved into the present comes across as Jon trying to tell the Dothraki there actions will not work. We now know why the Dothraki are heading a charge. All those Jorah conversations with daenerys about the ways of the dothraki and how they only follow a person of strength is the reason they didn’t listen to the little crow of the North. They didn’t want to change or adapt to the treat, treating it as a normal battle.
You get the visual to allow you to get this information but you need to get the ability to tell the part from previous episodes. So the first payoff given to you by the writer, is a great reward for your devotion to the show if you’re not too lost in the dark in order to find it. The viewer is essential a three eyed raven. Viewing the past to bring information into the present allowing it to make sense.
Then the director takes over and now you are in the charge with the Dothraki. You get to see it exactly as they would when riding out to meet their maker. So they charge like they normally would, you get to see tiny Jorah hedge in the charge as he is aware this will not go well, then as soon as the first projectile lands we get a brief light up of what they just galloped into. Bringing forth the next payoff. You cannot fight the dead as you would a living army. You think your ideas for fighting the dead would be superior, it would never work as the writer has informed you that the outcome would be the same.
Now you have an idea of how you can go about finding the payoffs hidden in the story. In writing there is always a reason for why things are happening and then the conclusion comes delivering all the payoffs.
@@gavsgotinfo1278 Is this a joke? I'm honestly having trouble understanding anything you are trying to say due to how poor this formatting is.
@@joshuahopkins8747 It is only a joke if you are not willing to investigate it. On my channel I got audio and more script up for reading. As my ability to do recordings is limited.
@@joshuahopkins8747More gathered intel. All the payoffs are not structured to fall in place like dominos. It’s more like a treasure hunt. Like I said High Vaylerian is a hard language to translate. So I’ve addressed that the payoffs to sticking to the source material are in the episode, we need to move on. The next thing you need to know is that game of thrones has always had two stories in motion the whole time. The past and the present. We don’t really think too much about this concept but when Arya kills the Night King. The scenes depicting her and those who aid her are progressing through the actions of the characters themselves making her journey the present. All scenes away from her and those not accompanying her need your interpretation of the past.
> mfw Maisie Williams and her boyfriend understand fundamental narrative structure better than the entire writing team and producers
There is no team of writers for the show, it's only Benioff and Weiss. Yes really, they are actually that stupid and egotistic that they do all the writing for the entire show. Lesson of the story: the people in charge are often complete incompetent morons, see also: The Last Jedi
She is actually quite competent in that regard. She also leveled complaint at the directors in the chase scene with the waif, where she was running away wounded and thanks ro her, they toned it down. Imagine what crazy shit she'd do in thaz episode if she hadn't said anything lol.
If anything, I really hope people only hate the directors but praise Williams. She did a good job, given the shit she had to work with.
@@peffiSC2source Sadly, the actors often get flack for the things writers and directors decide to do. See Anakin Skywalker for a perfect example. The actor isn't exactly the greatest thing ever but if you see him in other movies, he's alright. In most of Star Wars he's trash but that's not his fault. The writing was bad and Lucas is a terrible director.
@@RenegadeVile The actor of Joffrey was literally threatened on the streets. People are fucking stupid sometimes.
@@peffiSC2source Honestly, if I was an actor I would take it as a compliment because it means you played your part so well people think it was actually real.
Mauler if you ever see this, I just want you to know, I come back and rewatch all 3 of these videos as a coping mechanism for the world's worst ending to a fantastic show, thank you for making these. They've slowly repaired my soul after it was shattered into smaller pieces that Arya shattered the night king.
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Wow. At the end there, Maisie Williams spitting some mad truths. Good on her.
She did the same when D&D wanted to have her doing flips and jumps through Bravoss after she got stabbed
She's basically mark hamil
Eventually, she came around to the idea, though, thanks in part to a call back to, and reunion with Melisandre. "When we did the whole bit with Melisandre, I realized the whole scene with [the Red Woman] brings it back to everything I’ve been working for over these past 6 seasons-4 if you think about it since [Arya] got to the House of Black and White," she said. "It all comes down to this one very moment. It’s also unexpected and that’s what this show does. So then I was like, ‘F*ck you Jon, I get it.’”
@@biz0unc3 poor John hes life meant nothing
@@biz0unc3 she wants to continue to work right lol
"I grieve for him as well. For the boy he was, not the man he grew to be."
- Stannis Baratheon.
In this instance, "the boy" is Seasons 1-4, and the "man" is Seasons 7 and 8.
6 was awful:I
@Wicker _ No, it wasn't.
Seasons 5+ have been god awful, this just put the nail in the coffin
@@Longshanks1690 - Completely changes the tone from a series where the more tactical characters are ones to succeed to one where good guys win against bad guys.
- "Hold the Door" was a poor time paradox.
- Arya's whole story with the Waith was pure plot armour and her suddenly learning to master face changing and bake pies made little sense.
- Cersei receiving no consequences for having burnt down the most important religious building in Westeros and those within it, as well as betraying the series' premise of succession being complicated (the entire basis of the War of the Five Kings) by immediately making her queen.
- Jon Snow becomes a Gary Stu who gains the support of the entire north when he would've had no chance without the army of the Vale.
- Tyrion going from being excellent at political manoeuvres to being a failure in Mereen, as well as the entire Mereen plot having been made a waste of time.
Sure, Seas 6 definitely wasn't awful...
The episode immediately after Tywin's death on the shitter is noticeably worse, lol. They are completely fucking clueless without GRRM and they cant write old-English sounding dialogue to save their fucking lives so they just gave up and all the characters talk like Americans now. This show really went down the tubes, it astounds me how people dont notice.
Your summary that started about 27:15 was spot on. Very, VERY well-said! "The Game of Thrones was never the point! It was LIFE versus DEATH."
Yeah, there's a reason that only the first book is called "A Game of Thrones" and the series is referred to as "A Song of Ice and Fire"
The show is a disaster now.
3 years later and I am still not over it...
Watching this review totally brought it all back
Jennifer Jackson: *_Praises this show_* "It's got royalty, dragons, magic... it's right up your alley"
Me: *_Watches this video, hears "Are you taking the fucking piss?!?"_* Welp, unless this series destroyed the entire Sword & Sorcery genre, I'm never watching this. Thank God for Harry Potter.
*_EDIT; Me:_* SHE'S ANTI-LGBT?!?!? WTF FRANCHISE AM I SUPPOSED TO ENJOY BESIDES SAILOR MOON?!?!?!?
@@Alysa-Aiday read the silmarillion you’ll be busy with that for like a decade if you read fast
Arya Stark killing Night King is like Han Solo defeating Vader with a blaster shot
And then Return of the Jedi is about who becomes president of the new republic.
And not even shoot first
Luigi Nastro Nah it’s like Ginny Weasley killing Voldemort in part 1 of the 7th movie just as he was about to get the elder wand.
newLEGACY boy its like r2d2 killing vader by causing his suit to short circuit
newLEGACY boy more like palpatine tripping down the stairs and breaking his neck in the end of the second episode.
Like saurons tower breaking down bcs he got something in his eye.
Like the shark in jaws beaching itself before killing anybody.
Like smaug dying bcs he was bathed in gold.
Like the one piece being an old swimsuit with skidmarks inside.
Like baywatch with fat, flat chested trans women running around with their cocks out.
Like that princess killing buwsur rendering super mario a useless turd jumper.
Rian Johnson approved of this episode. Just check his Twitter. He makes fun of the imaginary people that didn't like The Last Jedi because it didn't match up with their fan theories.
"Your Night King theory sucks too!"
Infinity War and Endgame were both really good, even though I'm sure they didn't match a lot of people's fan theories.
@@happybureaucrat1311 In the same timeline that we got The Last Jedi and GoT S8E3, we also got INFINITY WAR and ENDGAME.
Literal evidence that there is a god because THAT is nothing short of a miracle.
@@Link0304 perfectly balanced
@@berserkasaurusrex4233 It´s hilarious right? In his mind, setting up a character and doing nothing with him is the new meta. Oh, was your theory that Im gonna do something? That would suck!
MauLer doing a rage on the absolute failure of writing that is S08E03?!? I N S T A N T C L I C K
I don't even watch GOT and I clicked. MauLer is amazing. (Also now glad I don't watch GOT.
DamienDarksideBlog read the books. Even though they’re not finished (yet!) I promise you they have virtually nothing in common with this piss poor imitation
Buraku They'll never be finished though, so why bother?
MATIAS DIGUARDI PUYAL have faith man, we’ll get a win eventually
@@DamienDarksideBlog I'm glad for you too, just imagine this. Huge villain that is neglected by everyone but the Night's Watch until the end, is shown to be almost unstoppable, episode before the big fight is pure dialogue and sadness and everyone saying everyone is going to die. Then the fight happens and 2 characters die and the entirety of the enemy force is destroyed and the symbolism the whole show was trying to push (throne not important, it's life vs death) is destroyed with them. Btw this was built up over 9 years...
When you realize that the Night King could have just kept sending blizzards for a week or two and forced Jon and co to either abandon the castle to avoid a large chunk of the army from freezing to death/deserting, or forced Jon's army into marching from the castle to fight him at a location of the Night Kings choosing. Sun Tzu's The Art of War 101.
He didn't even need to send blizzards, he could have just done a traditional siege and starved the defenders out. Whitewalkers are perfect for conducting a siege. They don't need to be fed or paid, they don't get demoralized from long campaigns away from home, and they don't die off from disease.
we didnt even see a winter. Stannis' men froze to death but the night king who "brings the cold storm" didnt even do sheeeeeett.
not one person froze to death in the "LONG WINTER" because it all happened in ONE fruckingggg night. WTFFF
What infuriates me is that a large story in an omnibus handles an undead invasion like this a million times better than a multi-million dollar show. Gotrek and Felix, while set in the Warhammer Fantasy world with vastly different magic systems and technology (mostly renaissance stuff for the main human faction) still understands the very basics of this kind of this shit, AND actually dives into some nuances of how a siege like this would go. This shouldn't have been a one-episode thing. Winterfell is a massive fortress with countless defenders and some of the most brilliant minds in the setting. This should have been a long, drawn out siege of attrition, where the Night King is sending wave after wave of his minions against the walls of a fortress that the defenders have spent weeks preparing. It should have been a series of brutal, violent battles where the defenders spent day after day throwing back countless waves of wights, fighting to the brink of exhaustion while the dragons wear themselves to the bone trying to burn as many of the wights as possible. The defenders employ every defensive tactic under the sun: oil, spike traps, spear walls, holding key choke points. Everything. But the wights just keep on coming. Each character would get their moment to shine contributing to the defense while trying to work under the pressure of the fate of the world on their shoulders. But nope.
@@Aredel The night king could and should have just starved and freeze them. He has all the time in the world. Every dead defender will be a new zombie. So it's a matter of time, a week max.
5 minutes of this ridiculous siege was way too long, let alone 45.
@@ronhoek69 The problem is that Winterfell had been preparing for that kind of situation for months. They have the granaries and wood stocks to wait out a siege for years if needed. Massive blizzards wouldn't take their toll for a while.
"Your Night King theory sucks." - David Benioff and Dan Weiss
one of them said he plans to be drunk and away from net after the show ends and that everyone's critiquing his work are torturing themselves
Rian Johnson actually made a tweet along the lines of "oh darn, but what about my night king theory?" Fucker can't stop shitting on fans. Fuck that pos and fuck this episode.
@Dr Boom who the fuck follows ruin johnson and who care if they ruin the show at this point they won't be able to get the viewers they would have had if they were good writers after i will be VERY surprised if ruin johnson or dumb and dumber EVER get good viewership again
@@Paool I'm sure I read somewhere D&D say they took tips from Rian Johnson for the final series.
@@thehopelesshelper most hated guy in nerd films? thats who we want to emulate!
The play-by-play was appreciated because I legitimately couldn't fucking see half the shit happening in the opening part of the battle and I really don't want to rewatch it.
I've watched it 5 times.
G.R.R.M sitting there laughing, everyone will now have to read his books for the actual ending
GRRM stocks all time high
He has to finish them first. And not die before then too.
@@The_Rage_Kage I wonder if they arnt finished just delying launch so they arnt correlated with this garbage show
@Shazbot81 the world's most expensive test screening
GRRM PLANNED IT ALL!!!
I love how he just gets right into it, no intro just straight into angry criticism.
And 36 mins straight without taking a breath!
I hate how Dark this video is. Oh wait! That's just the episode!!
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Yeah, wtf is wrong modern movies ?
*_I CAN’T ENJOY A MOVIE IF I CAN’T SEE IT !!! I’VE PAID THE MOVIE TICKETS OR MY NETFLIX/HULU/AMAZON PRIME/CABLE SUBSCRIPTIONS TO FUCKING SEE IT AS OPPOSED TO_** NOT **_SEE IT !!!!_*
The tech sites are chalking that up to people complaining about the darkness as having sh*tty TVs or viewing it on small devices such as iPads and smartphones.
@blackkey1976 My computer monitor laughs at those TV's and still couldn't make this garbage look decent.
To be fair, Mauler is pretty dark in this video, too.
producers compare this shit with helm's deep !
Cavalry always work best when charging without backup at night into an overwhelming zombie horde. Everyone knows that...
It's like chess, you always start by opening up your queen and sending it to the opposite side of the board to kill all the pawns, without protecting or being protected by any other pieces.
And screaming at dragons is super effective, if you put all your skill points into Battle Cry....
Maybe if they had obsidian tipped arrow volleys instead of investing in fortifications and variety of fighters, the dead wouldn't be able to reach Winterfell's walls.
@Grumpy Avocado Why, back in my day, our cavalry couldn't see two feet in front of them. Because if you have absolutely no lighting that will make your show look good.
Honestly! If only people would pay attention to history.
Jon Snow: has been building up to fight the Night King since Season 1: Pretty much no interaction with him this episode
Arya Stark: found out about him like a week ago: murders him with ease
Jon went on a Benny Hill style chase of the Night King the entire episode and Arya just teleports behind him and dunks on him.
I’d like to see an after credit scene of Jon running into the Godswood out of breath telling them how he killed a dragon with a scream and that he is here to fight the Night King. That would bring the comedy of this episode to full circle.
And considering she has never seen him or even a WW EVER.
Girl POWER!
@Jon Snow tgm that shit.
IronEmperor this is fucking stupid to me. You can’t complain about “convenient plot” and then be okay with Jon magically being the one to kill him out of the thousands of people there just because he was “supposed to.” Get a grip.
I just realised that the undead dragon blows a massive hole in Winterfell's huge stone wall in one shot, and then later it can't kill Jon with it's fire because he's hiding behind a tiny little stone.
LOL.
SerMattzio He literally mentioned that in the video.
You should watch the video. There's that and more.
The reason for that is because the undead dragon is badly injured by the time it goes after Jon. You can see a couple of shots of it as it tries firing but the blue fire isn't coming out properly. It's not a plot hole, it's just not very clear because it's so dark it's nearly impossible to see anything...
@@smokeylee1986 ohnononono
@Leon Russell Not at all. I don't think this was a plot hole.
no matter what happens in the next 3 episodes always remember that arya can now just kill cersei as easy as she killed the night king
Even easier.
I hope it’s her. Might as well go all in on this fuckery
Im tired of this one women show. I loved Arya as a character but now i just can't stand her
Umm guys so did you finish watching it?
Arya loaded herself into a catapult and launched herself at the Night King.
It's the only explanation that makes sense.
Might as well, the trebuchets weren’t serving any other purpose.
William Vinopål de Cordova
Seriously. What was the point of building trebuchets if you are only going to use them once? What a waste of time and resources.
@@jal7852 And after the Dothraki retreated, they still didn't fire them!!!!! They should have fired the trebuchets first until they ran out of ammo.
Poisonedblade
Jesus Christ. This episode makes no goddamn sense. It’s like the more you think about it, you end up finding MORE problems.
@@jal7852 It's like The Last Jedi. You start to unravel a piece of the story and it falls to pieces, exposing even more loose strings. Then the whole episode falls apart.
In the end, Tywin realized it's a blessing he got killed off in season 4.
Tywin has been pulling the strings all along it’s the only theory that makes sense
Season 4 the last good season. The show died with him.
Just let Tywin and Robb take a look at the battle plan for this episode
Their unbridled rage will rival a thousand dragons and obliterate the Night King's army ten times over.
Walkers: Alright if we just stay back and let the wights kill them all we win
Night King: LEEEEEEEEEROOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYY JEEEEEEEEEEENKINS *dies*
If he had some chicken then it doesn't matter.
@@chrisbingley But the Hound was there so there was no chicken left.
The night is dark... and full of errors.
lol.
The night is dark and full of... artifacts and banding
*_YOU HAVE ALLOWED TROPES AND BAD FANSERVICE TO TWIST YOUR MIND UNTIL NOW, YOU'VE BECOME THE VERY THINK YOU SWORE TO DESTROY!_*
Game of Thrones was the chosen one! It was said they'd overcome poor television not join them!
Tru dat! You know, if they reboot the Matrix, one pill is going to be a laxative and the other with be a laxative, but one that taste like Skittles... Morpheus be all: I had to subvert your expectations, Holdo' but now, do you want some cake? Oh, also, Porgs...
hello there
Well said Obi-Wan Kenobi
*You have committed crimes against Westeros and her people, what say you in your defense?*
Seems Maisie Williams' BF knows how to tell a story better than D&D.
Gotta give Maisie credit even she knew it was stupid. I remember she said something similar when Arya got stabbed in the stomach and then proceeded to run through Bravoss
Maisie and her BF made a complete laughing stock out of these retards running this shit. That's just embarrassing. Sounds a LOT like Mark Hamill begging Disney to not be completely mentally ill.
Oozywolf where’s this?
@@ComradeCommissarYuri i second your comment. Where is it?
All the fans minus the drones could tell a better story.
Sacrificing an entire story arc, absolutely destroying character arcs and throwing 7 seasons of buildup out the window for a subversive "you go girl" moment. Disgraceful.
Jon deserved better. He earned that NK kill a hundred times over!
@@Kazserah yeah Arya killed all the family members of the house that DESTROYED her house, a plot she deserved to bring to a closure, what more did they want from her to be the superman of the series destroying every bad guy, this was a disaster
@@eastbow6053 Yeah, but... feminism...
I'm pissed about everything, but the destruction of Sam's story arc pisses me off the most. What happened to the years of him gaining courage, learning how to fight despite his fear, and becoming a man who's willing to fight and die to protect his family and friends? Now he's just a big coward baby bawling in the middle of the chaos who's too insignificant for the enemy to even bother to kill.
I wasn't for a “you go girl” it was because, and I am using the words of D&D here “Jon killing the Night king was too predictable”. This reminds me of a quote I don't know where it is from “when you write your Story, so it ends up that the butcher did, but the readers figure it out before you finish the Story, so you rewrite it as the butler did it instead, you just end up ruining your own story”.
I like how they showed us an army of giants at one point but in this episode there was one
I saw one get vaporized by one of the dragon fire runs, but yeah....2 giants
Lyanna Mormont killed them all... off screen.
Did you forget that they attacked the umber castle before winterfell? Obviously the umber kid killed all the other giants, didn’t you know that giants weakness is little children?
When giant pick up the little girl, she dropped her axe right. But where did she find that dragon glass sword she could hide somewhere in her clothes cuz when giant throw her she cut herself. Also the sword is almost her length?
Actually there were two or three, if you assume the one shown with the Dothraki and the one briefly lit by dragon fire weren't all the same one.
This is the best GoT review I've ever seen. On my third watch. This was better than the episode.
true
Yes!
Check Preston Jacobs
@@szymonitaherrero9737 I watch Preston and he's good but (especially when he's with Carmine) he's a bit watered down. This pure unbridled fury. This is my inner voice
And now your third watch is ended.
Four episodes a go Jamie was organising a defence of Kings Landing against the Dothraki and Unsullied, behind the castle walls preparing boiling tar to repel them. A season earlier he is advising the Frey's on siege tactics yet here he's mute.
Good comment and true!
So true! Dumb&Dumber made all the characters with years of training, battle experience and siege experience completely useless. Everything had to go to shit so Arya ex Machina could have her Girl Power moment. Because, subverted expectations.
He had to take orders from Breanne, the knight of the seven kingdoms who has zero military strategy experience because he’s not the fight he used to be!
Last guy that asked to know the plan was tazed by Mary-Leia-Poppins, besides, that's Pasma! She'd throw him in a pit of fire after cracking his skull open, since he's been deflecting her questions and refusing to subvert... Uhg, I mean submit. Also, she's short-handed at the moment, but I think that's Halot of Reaching... Anyway, he'll be back in season nine, nobody is ever really gone.
T_T
Please please PLEASE make a review of the last episode. I know it's been a long time, but I love your take on these and I constantly listen to them, it gets me through the day.
Game of Thrones: Filmmakers who don't understand history, the military, religion, human interactions or how to make satisfying fantasy trying to describe all of these things quickly and distract from their own bad logic with visual effects.
you forget - throw out fanservice emotional moments so fanboys will defend shitty writing because "my favorite character did such-n-such! Yay!"
don't need logic when you have cool effects to please the masses
This is pretty much what happens when greedy producers throw out the source material that made all of this possible (the book series) and basically just pad out the series with fanfiction instead. Imagine the "What the Fuck?!" face George R.R. Martin must have had when seeing this episode.
@@thirty-three7546 Indeed. Fanboys wanted a spectacle, and they got it. The plot doesn't make sense? No one cares. Just give the popcorn munchers some epic scenes, they're gonna be happy.
Tywin is rolling in his grave with the incompetence of this episode.
I would say any battle commander is at this point.
I've got a signed poster by the guy then a friend has and she is just absolutely livid to the point that she almost destroyed the thing, thank God it was in one of those cases that are meant to be indestructable
and Stannis, Robb and Randyll.
"Oh, my sweet summer child... What do you know of fear? Fear is for the winter, when the snows fall a hundred feet deep. Fear is for the long night, when the sun hides for years and children are born and live and die all in darkness. That is the time for fear, my little Lord, when the white walkers move through the woods. Thousands of years ago there came a night that lasted a generation. Kings froze to death in their castles, same as the shepherds in their huts. And women smothered their babies rather than see them starve, and wept and felt the tears freeze on their cheeks... They swept through cities and kingdoms, riding their dead horses, hunting with their packs of pale spiders, big as hounds..." -- Old Nan, season 1, ep 3
After the white walkers breached the wall, Westeros should've been sent into Eldritch, icy apocalypse. We should've seen empty farms, silenced and smothered by cold snow. We, the viewers, should've been allowed to live in that terrible new Hell for a while (more than one episode), and we should've felt the desperation of those who were left. "The Long Night"? What a joke. More like the "The Mildly Irritating Evening". Were the humans of a thousand years ago really so incompetent that they let themselves be overrun by the bumbling comedy troupe that call themselves the White Walkers? Our main characters, even after devising legitimately the worst battle strategies put to parchment, beat them ON THIER FIRST CONFRONTATION with barely any cost. I guess the ultimate twist Game of Thrones had to offer was that Winter was never really Coming at all. How satisfying.
Why did the powers-that-be resurrect Jon? Not for the presumably world-ending icy disaster on the horizon... So he could fight a drunkard manic-depressive (and her horny "evil" frat-boy sidekick) - who has no right still being Queen considering her people would've revolted six times by now - for a throne that has been squabbled over for generations? Why tf would Jon even care who sits on the damn thing -- for his ENTIRE 7 SEASON ARC HE HAS BEEN UP NORTH, PREPARING FOR THE MOMENT HE WOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE NO PART IN. Even worse, this proves that self-destructive Cersei was RIGHT for scoffing at the idea of an "army of the dead" and her foolish "lol let them duke it out up there why should I care" attitude was apparently NOT foolish but in fact a stroke of genius! The maesters who laughed around their table at these fairy tales of doom can keep laughing -- they were right. Turns out the threat WAS greatly exaggerated. Your average schmuck living his life down in the Riverlands has probably not even noticed a change in the weather. This was the "winter" they teased us with for 8 years. Unreal. Fucking Bronn handily outlived the Night King. Grey Fucking Worm isn't even scathed. Now we can expect a mindless, cookie-cutter good vs. crazzzy (evilll) conflict for a spiky metal chair to occupy the next three episodes. All the heroic characters have amassed and moved to one side of the stadium, and all of the moustache-twirling villains have obediently filed to the other -- Now fight! What an epic, intrigue-filled game of thrones guys. Jesus Christ.
Were you expecting a good show?
G e t s u b v e r t e d n e r d
Damn what a cathartic read this post is. Seriously though, it’s really my fault for getting so invested in this show. This isn’t the game of thrones I fell in love with.
This season should have been 10 episodes long, like all the rest and taken several episodes to build up the horror that is the Long Night.
Seriously, GoT has to be the biggest show on television right now. How much money have they made? They couldn’t afford a bigger budget for its last season? Or did the show runners and writers decide that they couldn’t competently write that story?
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Lennie Smalls Very well put. I was really hoping this show wouldn't go out the way Lost did, but sadly it's shaping up to. I can't wait to read the true ending of the story.
*Opens video*
"WTF! Have you guys done"
Me: *Sits back in serenity*
"Good, Mauler good......................kill them............ kill them now."
It is the unbridled way
Seasons 1-4: "When you play the game of thrones you either win or you die!"
Seasons 5-8: "When you play the game of thrones you either win, die, or get constantly, conveniently deus-ex-machina'd by David Benioff and Dan Weiss."
This episode saddened me deeply.
So true. After season 4 the shows writing when down the shitter.
@@danield11711 whats sad is seasons 5-7 does have sparsely brilliant episodes within them. I still love Battle of the Bastards, Oberyn getting murdered by the Mountain, and Hardhome remains one of my favorite TV episodes ever. But the level of quality writing from these seasons is egregiously inconsistent. And I dont like being a hater, but I'm calling a spade a spade here. I havent even read the books but I'm thinking about doing so now.
@@BiggestMikey Obberyn died in season 4 as did Tywin.
@Kratos the battle of the bastards was shit too. The battle made no sense with similar bad tactics and plot holes as the long night. Then you have basically everything sansa did involving that battle and it was just a joke.
ickyfist What are the plot holes in that battle?
_"I think you've got to start wondering, what the hell is this plot?"_
Arya killing the Night King is like having Han Solo emerge from the shadows and shoot the Emperor in the face while he electrocutes Luke in EP 6.
Well when you think about it, that's sort of what happened in A New Hope. Han emerged from seemingly out of nowhere to shoot at Vader's tie fighter while Vader was chasing Luke
Change hans to jar jar
Nah, it's gotta happen way earlier on so that the biggest threat is removed and forgotten about for the rest of the story.
it's R2D2 destroying the Death Star
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 It's sort of true, without R2 Luke would be killed in start of the battle.
I don't even watch this show, but your plethora of beautiful insults make these videos profoundly entertaining.
I feel exactly the same lol
Kudos to you for avoiding the tragedy us fans suffered.
It’s a really good show especially the first 4 seasons you should watch it anyways because it is a television masterpiece
Short man bad?
Already happy you did it!
Very bad
nah
Oh boy! Another MauLer video!
Ice man bad
I dont think I've heard MauLer this angry since the OG Last Jedi rage
@@laughoutgoudo1084Probably because we have invested a lot more time into watching GOT then SW.
It's also a super fresh wound.
😂
The Predator rant was up there as well.
I Hernandez I have to disagree bro. The predator was a lot more forgivable. But this..but THIS..this watching my mom being raped and then I was adopted by the rapist levels of bad
This season gave me a cancer so big i'm going to die tomorrow.
*The scene cuts*
Hey, now i'm fine.
@Finn the human t Ep 6 made me sick for a whole week.
The chemotherapy and suffering happened off screen.
Looks like the scene performed surgery and *cut* the cancer right out of you!
Gotta get me um of dat plot armour!
I loved the start of this episode. "What the fuck have you guys done?" Haven't laughed this hard in awhile. Sums up my feelings for Season 8.
loooooooooooool