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@@thelordofthelostbraincells eh not really. he scored like what a 60 on the IQ test? That made him legally retarded.. and almost all people who scored under 80... making them fall under the same classification.
@@butters1273 I was stationed there for 2 years and 1 year in Germany and I can tell you fort Carson is a total dump Colorado is a beautiful assignment I love Colorado springs but that base is a toxic mess
It wasn’t uncommon in the Vietnam war to consider working class and the uneducated as ‘expendable’ to send to and bolster the front line. My grandfather got an exempt from the draft since he was working and going to school for his masters in electrical engineering at the time and was considered too valuable to send over. On the other side both my grandmas brothers got sent over where her one brother only had a 8th grade education and was most likely undiagnosed with high functioning autism and learning disabilities.
@@andresherrera2902 Eh I dunno, I'm high functioning myself and am considering joining the Air Force. It just depends on what branch you join and what job you'd want to do. I could never become a Marine or a Navy Seal though because while I do believe I would pass those trials, I would not survive in the thick of combat whatsoever.
College was a de facto way to exempt middle and upper classes from the draft. Most working class folk couldn't afford college. Toward the end of the war the government stopped exemptions for college. It's very suspicious when exemptions stopped the US withdrew from the Vietnam War. Seems those benefitting from US war efforts decided they weren't willing to have their love ones drafted. It might have not been entirely the case. But as they say in military, perception is reality.
@@Wolf_3125 the drill Sargent cares, but they have a job. That job requires them to get them in the best shape they can get. It's not their fault the standards were dropped for a conflict based on a theory that based more on containing the spread rather then destroy its supporters like the USSR and China.
I can assure you this never went away. I spent 5 minutes trying to teach my direct supervisor how 1/8th of a tank of fuel was less than 1/4th of a tank of fuel. This man commanded my life in his hands.
@Doctor Whowhotheowl you are right. I told a guy I hit a speed of 100 kilometers per hour driving to work and he was like, "But you your place is less than 20 km away. Duh!
My uncle was one of these guys. Government tried to abandon him, but my great grandmother wrote to the president (Carter) and he ACTUALLY PERSONALLY WROTE BACK and had the discharge changed to honorable so he could collect his full benefits. He really needed them.
@@sciencenate she wrote to a ton of people. it took years, according to my grandmother, but Carter was the first to respond, and he handled it. Because he's Jimmy Carter.
@@sciencenate I don't really know how Jimmy Carter did in internal policy, but i respect him as a president who gave back the Holy crown to its rightful owner Hungary in 1978. Our sacred ancient relic had quite an adventurous history, if someone interested a little info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Crown_of_Hungary#The_regalia_in_modern_times Long story short, In the last weeks of WWII the crown guards brought outside of Hungary borders in order to avoid falling in soviet hands, because it was well known that communists wasn't particularly respected the historical artifacts... It was recovered by U.S Army in 1945 May 4 , who took it to United States and safekeeped it in Fort Knox for 33 years.
@@rybackcasey4270 Jimmy Carter, is by all accounts, an extremely ethical man and a devout Christian who believes in good works. However, as a President, he was honestly pretty damn awful.... although we seem to be running a contest recently to see if we can do worse.
My grandfather was drafted in Vietnam and once he returned every Christmas or Thanksgiving he would invite random people to our family gatherings. I asked him one time who these people where? He told me they were victims of something I do not wanna talk about, since I liked military history once my grandfather passed away he gave me his journal from the war. The horrors my grandfather saw in the marine core only made me respect all soldiers who fight for our country, if you are a vet and you are reading this thank you for you're service!
Even here on Finland where our army is 100% based on reserve forces we dont put low iq ppl on front lines If need be, not even on any real combat roles. They will get work on supply and manual labour units If need be. And i can asure you that we would use every single man and woman that is able to defend our land If its necessary.
Granddad was a captian in the army during the war and when he got them, he did his best to not send them into combat after two of them blew then selfs up with hand grenades
My grandfather worked with a guy like that in the motor pool in Vietnam. The story they got was his CO in Basic pulled some strings to get him into the motor pool. He mainly swept the shop and washed the equipment which he really seemed to like. My grandfather even got a few letters from him in the 70's, probably typed by someone else, telling him how he was doing and how he sometimes missed working with everybody. It's the only person from Vietnam he ever talked about.
@@MarcoSimple1Videos if he has a weapon in hands so they will kill him probably, before they will recognize he is moron. but because he is moron so he can not keep in hands weapon. if his arms free so nobody will kill him.
I was in an Airborne infantry unit (2/503rd PIR 173rd ABN BDE). We were conducting a training jump in Germany and there where windmills in the vicinity, but not on, the drop zone. My SAW gunner was freaking out because he believed that the windmills would make the drop zone dangerously windy. He has the most casualty producing weapon in our fireteam, yet had to be instructed on how windmills work.
As a retired 11H/B I would’ve had fun with that ignorance and told him to be sure to steer clear of them and have the rest of the team agree with me and have them give him tips and their experiences with the windmills, lol.
I had several of these troops in my platoon in the 1st Cavalry. They were functional and capable. I’d rather have them on my six than some of the supposedly normal dilettantes!
Not advocating for Project 100,000, but there were some happy stories from it. My stepdad helped a couple of guys learn to read during his time in the Navy. They had grown up in extremely poor, segregated areas of the South and never got the support they needed to catch up.
There were some happy stories indeed. This one soldier with special needs came back from the war and became a shrimp boat captain. After a rough start he finally started a world famous shrimp brand the Bubba Gump shrimp co.
@Ban this youtube the military is a fantastic option especially for poorer people due to the opportunities it can provide. It shouldn't be the only option for economic mobility.
@@silasmayes7954 well it's the responsibility of the government to provide for their citizens so they aren't left with the choice of either entering military service or being left out to die because they didn't get the help they needed.
@@luftwaffles274 the military is the government provided option for folks who otherwise wouldn't be able to have a gainful career. That thing you were talking about, the government's responsibility to provide for those who need it. The army is that thing.
.. you know this was the war that saw the highest percentage of African Americans serve.... Are you linking low IQ to race ? Because that is so Hitler 2.0 Black people are doctors and lawyers and add the best ( intellectually speaking) to human achievement
I had an Uncle that was forced into the Army under this initiative. He was bounced around the foster system and in and out of jails before suddenly being told he was going to basic. He had spent his life being an absolute trouble maker until he got kicked out of everywhere he went....and he did the same thing in basic and they sent him right back to the streets to spend his life bouncing between family members, shelters, jails and the streets. When he got sick enough that the state started looking for someone to pay the medical bills they discovered he was entitled to all kinds of VA benefits. He got housing, medical treatment, someone to coordinate work he could do and got to experience being sober and have a routine of his own. He was in his 50s when he first experienced the simple concept of closing a door to a place just for him, locking it and being free to use his own kitchen, sleep in not only a bed, but his bed........Unfortunately he only got to spend a little over a year experiencing life with the freedom to let his mind dream beyond the next meal and the next place to go when his welcome ends. The state government and the Army left my uncle one year to live before his liver failed and then they gave him a place in the VA cemetery and a wonderful burial. He spent his life swearing that he wanted to go to Vietnam for the country if that's what was needed, he just wanted the respect of being told what was happening. It's been a few years since he passed. The mention of the initiative brings back the reality of each one of these numbers is also a person, a family, a nation and a world deprived of the life they could have had if things were different. Many in my family , including myself, still served in our military voluntarily, As screwed up as our government and our flaws are.....we are damned lucky to be where we are amd we owe it to the planet to continue the tradition of using our military not just to destroy and conquer, but to provide aid and opportunity.
The u.s military hasn't been really used for war too much other than the middle east. Usually branches getting together assisting the national guard on natural disasters is what they do.
My uncle was one of these guys. Government tried to abandon him, but my great grandmother wrote to the president (Carter) and he ACTUALLY PERSONALLY WROTE BACK and had the discharge changed to honorable so he could collect his full benefits. He really needed them.
No doubt there were plenty of men just like Gump in nearly every war fought by man. To be so dismissive of people like that in an actual combat situation would be your assured downfall. Fake or not Gump represents plenty that fought in Vietnam. Infantryman in general are rarely geniuses.. I should know as I was one, and I’m not a rocket surgeon. In wartime the military NEEDS men, they drop the standards and recruit who is willing. Can’t be picky when you have a war going on.
This program got more soldiers killed than helped. A good combat soldier is a special kind of person that has to quick in mind and feet and has a strong intellect with situational awareness. A good soldier is a very capable individual and anyone that is subpar is a danger to himself and everyone around him.
This is the OTHER side of the coin. While I can see keeping the lesser-grade soldiers as "REMF" (Rear Enchelon Mother F***ers), driving trucks, working military construction, grave detail, and so on, they weren't likely to make proficient combat soldiers. Sometimes all they could do was catch a bullet meant for a better soldier, or be used as a "stalking horse" to draw out the enemy. Sad.
No one's talking bout the implications for putting these poor people into combat. People with low IQ tend to be more susceptible to PTSD, as well as depression and could develop schizophrenia and other psychological problems. As a SpEd teacher I strongly condemn this practice, and advocate for non-impressment of people with special needs into the military. They deserve help and understanding, not a helmet and rifle.
I heard that this practice still exists, it shouldnt Edit: I was mistaken, I thought many special needs people are still in the military, they're not, just some dumb people still in the military
@@TankEngine75 this is a very depressing and oftentimes oppressive fact of life. We Filipinos take great care of our 'little brothers and sisters' because we have a moral duty for people with special needs.
My grandfather who was a german ww2 vet, he was fighting in vietnam as a mercenary and he also told my dad about there so called morrons, and he said that he would have send them home if he was a drill sergent, he could not see these men fight, he had respect for people who had issues.
My Dad was drafted at the tail end of WW2. He went though basic with guys who couldn't even read. The Sgt would read a paper to the recruit and ask if he understood. The guy would sign his name with an X and the Sgt would cosign as a witness. I've seen old military docs that say at the bottom "Sign or make your mark here."
Isn't it slightly exaggerated? It's hard to believe that some people in western society could not read in 40s. In WWI maybe, but things changed a lot in only 20 years.
I was an Army recruiter from 2001-2005; during my time, it was called CAT 4 slots that would open up when needed. We had files on guys that wanted to join but couldn't pass the ASVAB with a high enough score, so whenever a CAT 4 slot would open, we would start calling them. I couldnt believe some of the low scores I saw. You could score higher just guessing C for every answer.
It should be said, these men were not stupid, they were handicapped. These were not slackers or idiots or the lazy. They were mentally handicapped, while some suffered only minor issues such as difficulty in communications, others lacked the mental processes to understand anything beyond the most basic instructions. Most were little more capable than 5th graders mentally, while some were even worse. These men tried their best, and many fought with courage and strength, but because they could only understand very simple instructions, basic combat training did not take well with them, nor did battlefield experience, and so unlike other soldiers, these men would not always learn from mistakes made on the battlefield because they actually couldnt. These men wanted nothing more than to feel normal, to feel like real people and not the cripples theyd been treated like their entire lives. And instead, many came back maimed and decimated.
They are still human. They did things most people didn't have the balls to do. They deserve at least an ounce of respect. Not all of us can be born with a full deck. I am empathetic towards these men. They deserve better.
God bless these men. They may have had low IQs but they had big hearts. They were lied too and it's disgusting and upsetting. Thank you for your service and all men and women in any of our armed services. We appreciate 🙏 your sacrifices and its never forgotten.
@@somerandomguy6977 it will keep happening as long as there are people have power. Both Iraqi wars were fueled with lies from WMDs to false testimonies by Nayirah. The last one killed a MILLION people based on literal lies
I knew a man who was a Marine D.I. when this “Project” kicked-in. He told me that he and the other D.I.s did everything they could to get these guys discharged and sent home but it was all to no avail. He felt sick over it.
@@duongngoc6715 ehh, I believe Pyle otherwise was perfectly independent as a person. He was just never cut out to be a Soldier and that is putting it mildly.
I, for one, think that the mockery of these soldiers is harsh and heartless. The many comments here, calling them morons and even the animation. These are young men who were used, abuse, failed and abandoned by their supposed betters. At the end of the day, no matter their IQ, these were still soldiers who fought for their country and many sacrificed a lot in the process. This is something I can respect, and I thank them for their service.
They didn't volunteer....they got forced by literally gunpoint to be shipped half way across the world when most had never left their county of birth..... The fact that the American government saw fit to send frightened people who had mental health issues/developmental disabilities to a batpoop insane conflict then totally ignored them when they came home speaks volumes about the fucked up core values that the American people collectively share
The legacy of this program was still being felt when I was in the US army in the 1980s. They were working hard to rebuild force readiness with individuals intellectually capable of situational awareness
McNamara was using WW2 military tactics.He believed in superior Air Power and superior manpower.But,the war was part unconventional tactics and conventional tactics.McNamara just wanted bodies in the field or cannon fodder.
I surmise that McNamara's objective was of a more sinister bent than depicted here. I believe that he sent the low IQ troops to Vietnam in a effort to actively eliminate "unwanteds" through combat.
Actually, McNamara believed that technology could overcome the most fundamental reality of war. To win at war, you absolutely MUST have MANPOWER as a prerequisite. As the war in Ukraine absolutely proves, you simply can not get around this rule. Ukraine has mobilized 1 million men (granted not all are fully equipped or thoroughly trained). Russia foolishly only sent in a force of 150 thousand. The most basic rule of war is you need a 10 to 1 advantage to conquer your opponent on their own soil. Putin put too much faith in "hybrid war". Now the key word here is "conquer". On the other hand, if your not interested in ruling over an opponent but simply wish to genocidely exterminate them, the 10-to-1 rule no longer applies.
Unfortunately this is still true to some extent. During my time in the Army I met guys who were some of the smartest people I've ever known. I also met some of the dumbest people I've ever known. Some needed 5-6 attempts to pass the ASVAB which really isn't a difficult test.
@@eurosonly I have ADHD, lied to enlist, scored expert on every rifle qualification and 100% on every gunners exam being an 11C and made it through a whole combat deployment, I hate that ADD and ADHD gets brought up, it's bullshit, I even stopped taking my meth in pill form when I enlisted
My Air Force recruiter used me to fill a slot at the last minute. An asterisk followed me thru my entire time in the Air Force on all personnel list. Finally found out I was part of the moron quota as my first sergeant said. I did pretty well making e5 in three years.
I wasn’t alive for this time in history, but I just can’t believe our government. Sending 100,000 low IQ men to their deaths? What’s really sad is that they weren’t even treated as heroes. It’s very sad to see the way people treated these guys when they got back home. If you have a IQ of less than 75, you probably wouldn’t know any better.
These people were just plain dangerous in the field. A friend of mine and I were talking one day, and he said "In the first week the shitheads extra thick get it, in the second week the regular shitheads get it, after that it's luck or no luck." I'll always remember that.
Let us take a moment to honor those who served and sacrificed in this ridiculous conflict, and who were treated just as ridiculously unfairly when they returned. Those who did return.
There was a surviving MM in a neighboring town where I grew up. He got married after VietNam, and fathered two special needs daughters. The family were all still together in the early 2000’s. The highlight of their week was going to the town diner. Even there, they kept to themselves.
Something that is amazing to me is how this program is completely vital to the plot of some Vietnam war movies, but also completely ignored in all of them. Off the top of my head the characters of: Forrest Gump, Benjamin "Bubba" Blue and Leonard "Private Pyle" Lawrence come to mind. None of those characters make ANY sense historically without Project 100K, but it goes completely unacknowledged in both movies. Not defending the program, just an observation.
everyone was subject to the draft. the only ones that got out of it were the rich kids and the politicians sons. and, even at that, the rich kids had to stay in college.
Same, why weren’t they mentioned? I kept thinking, “doesn’t a solider need an IQ of 83 or higher to enter the military?” This would’ve answered my question.
My uncle was one of the low IQ soldier who fought in Vietnam war. He earned a medal for saving his squad leader, whom he carried on his back away from an airstrike. Unfortunately he lost his best friend and in his honor, he and his squad leader, a lieutenant, started a Shrimping boat company, he found success and married his childhood friend Jenny whom he lives with today. Every year, he runs a marathon for peace across the States. He is a very positive man, he always says, life is a Chocolate box.
Except Jenny had a history of abusive relationships and a couple trains run on her when she was a wild child in her youth and gave your uncle the AIDS and a baby by another man. Yeah, that could definitely be made into a movie. Maybe even into a romance film. Call it "Forrest Simp".
@@intergalacticolive The Vietnam war didn't happen that long ago. I go on Arma 3 and Vietnam veterans regularly play on a game that was meant for teens and young adults. Wouldn't surprise me if a low IQ veteran stumbled across this video.
Me: **in the spectators area in doomspire brickbattle with my buddy cole** Random guy in the spectators area with us: **starts blasted me with slingshot balls** Me and cole: **starts attacking the Random guy with the slingshot weapon aswell** Me 3 secs into the fight: this is a Bart Simpson war
From what I heard, these "new standards men" were putting their own comrades in danger, because of their inability to correctly throw a grenade, or to differenciate friend vs. foe. So after friendly fire incidents, some soldiers decided it was best to eliminate the problem one way or another. It would have been easy to make it look like an accident or blame the enemy.
I was a lousy student in high school. I dropped out. As a teen I got in some trouble with the police more than once. Some people thought I was stupid, others thought I was a little crazy. Okay more than a little. I would have been perfect cannon fodder in that war. I was even '' invited'' to join. I wasn't that crazy or that stupid. Now I am an old man that enjoyed the gift of life.
Although I understand the need to recruit as many men as possible, I cannot stress enough that “McNamara’s Morons” was disgusting and in poor taste. Sending the mentally disabled to certain death is just evil.
Glad this story is told, but it feels somewhat disrespectful to depict the soldiers as literally drooling and disgusting. The narration express rightful sympathy for these men while the animation reduces them to objects of mockery.
If you spent even an hour around these types of people you'd know this isn't entirely inaccurate 😂 Back in those days there was a term used to describe these types of people; mentally retarded. Because they were slow.
I think it's to bring weight to the fact that they literally enlisted people who are certified retarded,not like they can say that without offending someone.
@@zamn2315 part of being an artist is knowing that your style can put food on the table. If it's popular, then that style can become your brand. Plus the animation style is economical for it's simplicity. Whether that style appeals to an individual would depend on the their taste. Art styles change, so you would only have to wait some time for people to bored of it, other artists to create something different, or to look for other existing styles now. I'm ok for what simple history has as some of the animation has been improving while keeping the overall style recognizable.
My friend told me a story about how his grandfather witnessed a mentally disabled soldier get beaten to death by other soldiers on an Army base in Vietnam.
The only time this worked in Vietnam is when a soldier was captured as a P.O.W. and he was able to convince the VC that he was slow. They even nicknamed him “The Stupid One” and let him walk around the camp cuz they didn’t see him as a threat. If I remember right either he escaped or was able to get everyone rescued from the prison
McNamara himself had PTSD from the Dresden fire bombing of WW2 (which explains a lot of his decisions/actions during his tenure as secretary of defense).
I'd love to see a simple history video on the bombing of dresden. It was a war crime, as dresden was packed with civilians fleeing the fighting and famine.
So basically because you were poor, not fit or not smart you can serve a better purpose to get yourself killed, crippled or left with a nightmare that won't go away if your asleep or awake, but your life will be bettered? Funny point of view, and well done to yourself for highlighting this
Given that those with less intelligence are more likely to experience PTSD I'd imagine that those who survived possibly came back more screwed up then they were when they shipped out. This was essentially sending children into a war zone, an act that is considered a crime in most of the world.
I joined the army at 17 in 2003. Out of the 65 man platoon only 10-15 guys were qualified to be soilders. The rest were idiots that joined the military for stability and a way out.
Thank you Simple History, for depicting people exploited by their country as cannon fodder in war who saw much higher deaths and rates of PTSD as such a whimsical and light-hearted topic
They’re poor, they’re unwanted, yet they’re fighting for our society and our freedom. It’s weird, isn’t it? They’re the bottom of the barrel and they know it. Maybe that’s why they call themselves grunts, cause a grunt can take it, can take anything. They’re the best I’ve ever seen, Grandma. The heart and soul.” Platoon I can fully recommend this movie.
bruh they literally fought for war criminal not freedom and society. No freedom and society bring chemicals weapon to other country. America even want VN back to rock age using B52. what freedom do we get? fighting for "freedom and society" is like finding "mass destructive weapon" in Iraq. Did America find it yet?
It should also be noted that (though not unusual) the folks who benefitted the most from opportuntities available in our society were often the least likely sacrifice and serve. The priviledged folks found ways to get out of serving and dodging the draft while leaving the poor and undereducated to risk their lives.
This was perfectly contextualized, great work. Rich kids are always exempt from the horrors of the war and the poor kids well they have no power so off to war you go.
Very messed up that this happened so I'm glad you made this video to bring it to light. Still the animations/sound effects seem to be making light of the soldiers which undermines the message
It's the same now as it was then. High ASVAB score: air traffic controller, interpreter, combat engineer, nuclear reactor operator, intelligence, electronics. Low ASVAB score: cannon fodder. It's called Survival of the Smartest.
In Hearts of Iron IV you would call that "scraping the barrel"... cruelty aside, I cannot understand how anyone could think that this is an efficient way of actually bolstering your troops.
Simple, the slow guys were supposed to be cannon fodder / decoy for enemy troops to shoot at which in theory would help the regular i.q. men to get to safety while the cannon fodder got gun down. Plus if the enemy is firing upon the cannon fodder than the enemy just gave their position away so the regular troops can surround them and shoot them down.
Basically sacrifice those who would have no future and were useless and send them in hordes of groups without any guns or weapons so that they could just become distractions for the enemy which will exhaust the enemy a lot then the average normal soldiers could take out the weakened enemy
It would have been the best idea if it were utilized to dispose of people who would have never even had a chance in life to save others that could help later on
For perspective the average iq for a 13 year old American male is around 95. These were people who would have a difficult time stocking shelves or digging ditches. They were in no position to be making difficult life or death decisions in the chaos of battle.
I witnessed these type of trainees @Ft. Bragg, NC in 1968. I was stunned that the Army Doctors allowed these poor children to be drafted. Usually, they were given jobs as grave diggers.
The project may have ended in the 70's, but filling the ranks with the same types of individuals, to meet a quota carried on. Fort McClellan, Alabama 1983: guy to the right of me was in handcuffs, guy to the left of me could barely read or write. There was a couple that couldn't speak or understand English well. Me, terribly nearsighted and color blind, but I made it through.
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Nice video
3rd I guess
Enlisted? more like conscripted
So this is Red Vs Blue TV show Machinima
So this is Red Vs Blue TV show Machinima
When you realize having Forest Gump and Private Pyle in the military was actually historically accurate for the time
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Yeah, but even Forrest was still smarter then these guys
Also Bubba.
Forrest was a college educated man and played football for the University of Alabama
@@thelordofthelostbraincells eh not really. he scored like what a 60 on the IQ test? That made him legally retarded.. and almost all people who scored under 80... making them fall under the same classification.
As a proud veteran, I can tell you most soldiers are ok... but soldiers like this still exist.
Just ok?
Yes indeed, Ft Carson is infested with them and some of them made rank and are in charge of units now.
@@VanquishMediaDE yup, I know that frustration friend.
@@butters1273 I was stationed there for 2 years and 1 year in Germany and I can tell you fort Carson is a total dump Colorado is a beautiful assignment I love Colorado springs but that base is a toxic mess
Sometimes as Generals
It wasn’t uncommon in the Vietnam war to consider working class and the uneducated as ‘expendable’ to send to and bolster the front line. My grandfather got an exempt from the draft since he was working and going to school for his masters in electrical engineering at the time and was considered too valuable to send over. On the other side both my grandmas brothers got sent over where her one brother only had a 8th grade education and was most likely undiagnosed with high functioning autism and learning disabilities.
That’s horrible, the one group of people that shouldn’t be in war
@@andresherrera2902 Eh I dunno, I'm high functioning myself and am considering joining the Air Force. It just depends on what branch you join and what job you'd want to do. I could never become a Marine or a Navy Seal though because while I do believe I would pass those trials, I would not survive in the thick of combat whatsoever.
@@andresherrera2902 I’d probably go insane due to the autism and mental disabilities I have on top of that
College was a de facto way to exempt middle and upper classes from the draft. Most working class folk couldn't afford college. Toward the end of the war the government stopped exemptions for college. It's very suspicious when exemptions stopped the US withdrew from the Vietnam War. Seems those benefitting from US war efforts decided they weren't willing to have their love ones drafted. It might have not been entirely the case. But as they say in military, perception is reality.
Weaponized autism
I love how he describes the "Moron" nickname as cruel yet goes ahead to portray them with fart noises and drooling 😂
Lol! 😂😂😂
And that goofy laughter 😆
Iwas thinking that too! :'D
So true 😂
it was mcnamara's maroons back the, now it's biden's bozos with more gender dysphoria
OP: "They were cruelly mocked"
Animator and sound effects guy: "not enough"
Hehehe
Yeah I don't wanna be that guy but the tragedy of this is kinda undermined by how they're portrayed in the video. Slapstick stuff
@@ManiacMayhem7256 the video was tone deaf, but, still good.
@@STDRACO777 tone deaf.
@@bryonslatten3147 Thanks for correcting me
Giving a new meaning to "special forces"
And for them it's "special military operations"
Bro 💀☠️
Hahahahaaa
Well they are there for a reason
“I have a special forces soldier… he needs to wear a helmet.”
Imagine being a drill sergeant and knowing that you are basically sending these guys to their death.
They didn't care
@@Wolf_3125 Yeah they do, it's almost like they are human beings as well.
Told to pass them
I’d be like good lord why McNamara
@@Wolf_3125 the drill Sargent cares, but they have a job. That job requires them to get them in the best shape they can get. It's not their fault the standards were dropped for a conflict based on a theory that based more on containing the spread rather then destroy its supporters like the USSR and China.
I can assure you this never went away. I spent 5 minutes trying to teach my direct supervisor how 1/8th of a tank of fuel was less than 1/4th of a tank of fuel. This man commanded my life in his hands.
Try fragging, might solve the problem.
Jesus that's terrifying
Bruh and I thought I was dumb
I hope You started using percentages to deal with him "tank is a 25 percent" "tank is a 12 percent"
@Doctor Whowhotheowl you are right. I told a guy I hit a speed of 100 kilometers per hour driving to work and he was like, "But you your place is less than 20 km away. Duh!
My uncle was one of these guys. Government tried to abandon him, but my great grandmother wrote to the president (Carter) and he ACTUALLY PERSONALLY WROTE BACK and had the discharge changed to honorable so he could collect his full benefits. He really needed them.
Thank God.
Carter was probably the best prez to have to ask
@@sciencenate she wrote to a ton of people. it took years, according to my grandmother, but Carter was the first to respond, and he handled it. Because he's Jimmy Carter.
@@sciencenate I don't really know how Jimmy Carter did in internal policy, but i respect him as a president who gave back the Holy crown to its rightful owner Hungary in 1978.
Our sacred ancient relic had quite an adventurous history, if someone interested a little info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Crown_of_Hungary#The_regalia_in_modern_times
Long story short, In the last weeks of WWII the crown guards brought outside of Hungary borders in order to avoid falling in soviet hands, because it was well known that communists wasn't particularly respected the historical artifacts... It was recovered by U.S Army in 1945 May 4 , who took it to United States and safekeeped it in Fort Knox for 33 years.
@@rybackcasey4270 Jimmy Carter, is by all accounts, an extremely ethical man and a devout Christian who believes in good works. However, as a President, he was honestly pretty damn awful.... although we seem to be running a contest recently to see if we can do worse.
My grandfather was drafted in Vietnam and once he returned every Christmas or Thanksgiving he would invite random people to our family gatherings. I asked him one time who these people where? He told me they were victims of something I do not wanna talk about, since I liked military history once my grandfather passed away he gave me his journal from the war. The horrors my grandfather saw in the marine core only made me respect all soldiers who fight for our country, if you are a vet and you are reading this thank you for you're service!
Your grandfather was a good and honorable man.
I thank your grandfather for his service
Thank y'all!
Even here on Finland where our army is 100% based on reserve forces we dont put low iq ppl on front lines If need be, not even on any real combat roles. They will get work on supply and manual labour units If need be. And i can asure you that we would use every single man and woman that is able to defend our land If its necessary.
@@jermu9607 arent y’all now begging NATO to let you in to protect you from Russia?
Granddad was a captian in the army during the war and when he got them, he did his best to not send them into combat after two of them blew then selfs up with hand grenades
NGL that sounds more of a liability to your own army, even before touching to the battlefield
I feel evil to laugh but good god
@@pepperbreath35 cause it was lol. They literally fragged themselves before they could frag the enemy lol
I knew something like this would happen. And imagine the danger they brought to their own squad instead of only themselves
It's honestly sick to give people like that guns and explosives.
“Hey, Bubba.”
“Hey, Forrest.”
“Forrest?”
“Yeah”
“What just happened?”
“You got shOT!”
“Never underestimated the power of stupid people in large groups”
-George Carlin
Social media be like:
@@ghostcreeper243 true true
like the nazis
Don't call them stupid
@@l0remipsum991 like your aunt
My grandfather worked with a guy like that in the motor pool in Vietnam. The story they got was his CO in Basic pulled some strings to get him into the motor pool. He mainly swept the shop and washed the equipment which he really seemed to like. My grandfather even got a few letters from him in the 70's, probably typed by someone else, telling him how he was doing and how he sometimes missed working with everybody. It's the only person from Vietnam he ever talked about.
if possible that people like this, the enemies did nothing to this people, since they do no harm to anyone ?
@@MarcoSimple1Videosnot likely. The Vietnamese army’s were ruthless
Did he go on to invest in a Shrimp boat?
@@Heart2HeartBooks Dunno, maybe he became a saucier in New Orleans.
@@MarcoSimple1Videos if he has a weapon in hands so they will kill him probably, before they will recognize he is moron. but because he is moron so he can not keep in hands weapon. if his arms free so nobody will kill him.
My grandfather, a WWII vet, told me about McNamara's morons. I was shocked and appalled. Thank you for covering this important story.
I've heard it referred to as the "Moron Corps" too. It's insane to think that this was allowed to happen
Well stated,A book was written about this in the Vietnam War, !
They were still a minority of the army. Not all of them went to combat in Vietnam
I'm shocked as I write this.I was close to going my lotto number was 102 and they usually got up to 130.Cease fire in Jan 73 I graduated June 73.
@@marcussherrod5147 whoever coined that was, themselves, an idiot.
It clearly should have been “The Morine Corps”.
I was in an Airborne infantry unit (2/503rd PIR 173rd ABN BDE). We were conducting a training jump in Germany and there where windmills in the vicinity, but not on, the drop zone. My SAW gunner was freaking out because he believed that the windmills would make the drop zone dangerously windy. He has the most casualty producing weapon in our fireteam, yet had to be instructed on how windmills work.
Did you like Germany? Most Americans from overseas love it ... I always wonder why
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As a retired 11H/B I would’ve had fun with that ignorance and told him to be sure to steer clear of them and have the rest of the team agree with me and have them give him tips and their experiences with the windmills, lol.
I had several of these troops in my platoon in the 1st Cavalry. They were functional and capable. I’d rather have them on my six than some of the supposedly normal dilettantes!
Not advocating for Project 100,000, but there were some happy stories from it. My stepdad helped a couple of guys learn to read during his time in the Navy. They had grown up in extremely poor, segregated areas of the South and never got the support they needed to catch up.
There were some happy stories indeed. This one soldier with special needs came back from the war and became a shrimp boat captain. After a rough start he finally started a world famous shrimp brand the Bubba Gump shrimp co.
@@dant.3505 How's apple doing Lt Dan
@Ban this youtube the military is a fantastic option especially for poorer people due to the opportunities it can provide. It shouldn't be the only option for economic mobility.
@@silasmayes7954 well it's the responsibility of the government to provide for their citizens so they aren't left with the choice of either entering military service or being left out to die because they didn't get the help they needed.
@@luftwaffles274 the military is the government provided option for folks who otherwise wouldn't be able to have a gainful career. That thing you were talking about, the government's responsibility to provide for those who need it. The army is that thing.
The animation in this is brutal 💀
On this episode of “simple” history 🤣
The family when he talks about broken promises all have jacked up teeth and I lost it.
The one guy who shoots himself made me laugh
The sound too lol
.. you know this was the war that saw the highest percentage of African Americans serve....
Are you linking low IQ to race ? Because that is so Hitler 2.0
Black people are doctors and lawyers and add the best
( intellectually speaking) to human achievement
I had an Uncle that was forced into the Army under this initiative. He was bounced around the foster system and in and out of jails before suddenly being told he was going to basic. He had spent his life being an absolute trouble maker until he got kicked out of everywhere he went....and he did the same thing in basic and they sent him right back to the streets to spend his life bouncing between family members, shelters, jails and the streets. When he got sick enough that the state started looking for someone to pay the medical bills they discovered he was entitled to all kinds of VA benefits. He got housing, medical treatment, someone to coordinate work he could do and got to experience being sober and have a routine of his own. He was in his 50s when he first experienced the simple concept of closing a door to a place just for him, locking it and being free to use his own kitchen, sleep in not only a bed, but his bed........Unfortunately he only got to spend a little over a year experiencing life with the freedom to let his mind dream beyond the next meal and the next place to go when his welcome ends. The state government and the Army left my uncle one year to live before his liver failed and then they gave him a place in the VA cemetery and a wonderful burial. He spent his life swearing that he wanted to go to Vietnam for the country if that's what was needed, he just wanted the respect of being told what was happening.
It's been a few years since he passed. The mention of the initiative brings back the reality of each one of these numbers is also a person, a family, a nation and a world deprived of the life they could have had if things were different. Many in my family , including myself, still served in our military voluntarily, As screwed up as our government and our flaws are.....we are damned lucky to be where we are amd we owe it to the planet to continue the tradition of using our military not just to destroy and conquer, but to provide aid and opportunity.
The u.s military hasn't been really used for war too much other than the middle east. Usually branches getting together assisting the national guard on natural disasters is what they do.
My uncle mike was almost part of this initiative. He got lucky in that he volunteered before he could be drafted, and he chose to join the navy.
@@PrestonGarvey69 I can tell you are a kid
A brave family I see
My uncle was one of these guys. Government tried to abandon him, but my great grandmother wrote to the president (Carter) and he ACTUALLY PERSONALLY WROTE BACK and had the discharge changed to honorable so he could collect his full benefits. He really needed them.
These guys were some of the hardest working soldiers when given a clear task. Its the public and government who treated them harshly.
watching fake forest gump
No doubt there were plenty of men just like Gump in nearly every war fought by man. To be so dismissive of people like that in an actual combat situation would be your assured downfall. Fake or not Gump represents plenty that fought in Vietnam. Infantryman in general are rarely geniuses.. I should know as I was one, and I’m not a rocket surgeon. In wartime the military NEEDS men, they drop the standards and recruit who is willing. Can’t be picky when you have a war going on.
This program got more soldiers killed than helped. A good combat soldier is a special kind of person that has to quick in mind and feet and has a strong intellect with situational awareness. A good soldier is a very capable individual and anyone that is subpar is a danger to himself and everyone around him.
But sometimes you dont a good soldier. Sometimes you need canon fodder to gain time or distract
That’s why they should just put the ones with low iqs in their own groups problem solved
Sometimes you just need somebody to carry stuff and shoot in the direction you tell him to shoot
This is the OTHER side of the coin. While I can see keeping the lesser-grade soldiers as "REMF" (Rear Enchelon Mother F***ers), driving trucks, working military construction, grave detail, and so on, they weren't likely to make proficient combat soldiers. Sometimes all they could do was catch a bullet meant for a better soldier, or be used as a "stalking horse" to draw out the enemy. Sad.
Its almost like the U.S government doesn't care
No one's talking bout the implications for putting these poor people into combat.
People with low IQ tend to be more susceptible to PTSD, as well as depression and could develop schizophrenia and other psychological problems.
As a SpEd teacher I strongly condemn this practice, and advocate for non-impressment of people with special needs into the military. They deserve help and understanding, not a helmet and rifle.
I heard that this practice still exists, it shouldnt
Edit: I was mistaken, I thought many special needs people are still in the military, they're not, just some dumb people still in the military
Right that's what I'm saying they're like kids trapped in the body of adults it's messed up the same special needs to die like that
LOL Almost every kid is special needs thanks to the cesspool that is the public school system.
@@TankEngine75 this is a very depressing and oftentimes oppressive fact of life.
We Filipinos take great care of our 'little brothers and sisters' because we have a moral duty for people with special needs.
Dam Explains a lot about all the PTSD with the GWOT lol
This really gives meaning to "fact is stranger than fiction"
Bro, I love the classic Ghost Recon Pfp lol
@@TristenTheArgonian Thanks bro lol
Like Rambo movie 🤣
My grandfather who was a german ww2 vet, he was fighting in vietnam as a mercenary and he also told my dad about there so called morrons, and he said that he would have send them home if he was a drill sergent, he could not see these men fight, he had respect for people who had issues.
Your grandfather had a wild life (No offence)
@@SILOPshuvambanerjeeyou actually believe this nonsense?
@@HaroldAceveda Rambo holding two m60s never running out of ammo.
My Dad was drafted at the tail end of WW2. He went though basic with guys who couldn't even read. The Sgt would read a paper to the recruit and ask if he understood. The guy would sign his name with an X and the Sgt would cosign as a witness.
I've seen old military docs that say at the bottom "Sign or make your mark here."
You Can be intelligent and not able to read ...
@@bouchacourtthierry8506 pretty hard to be a good soldier if you can't understand written instructions
@@youraveragepasser-by7367 not really gonna have a lot of reading as a private but what do I know
Isn't it slightly exaggerated? It's hard to believe that some people in western society could not read in 40s. In WWI maybe, but things changed a lot in only 20 years.
That's a separate problem entirely, literacy wasn't universal until recently.
'Project 100,000' One of the cruellest most controversial experiments of the Vietnam War in the 1960s..
Imagine if a us army squad with low IQ fought against a Vietnamese army squad that were also low IQ 😂😂😂
This would make a good
Movie but the libtards in Hollywood would be to offended and cowardly to make the movie
It's a win win from govt perspective.
So this is Red vs blue TV show Machinima
So this is Red Vs Blue TV show Machinima
“We weren’t expecting Special Forces.”
"That's the point, sergeant."
💀
Well if you guys could handle small bears with sticks we wouldn’t be here
Please stop 😭😭😭😭😂
"this isn't the kind of "special" force that we expected"
I was an Army recruiter from 2001-2005; during my time, it was called CAT 4 slots that would open up when needed. We had files on guys that wanted to join but couldn't pass the ASVAB with a high enough score, so whenever a CAT 4 slot would open, we would start calling them. I couldnt believe some of the low scores I saw. You could score higher just guessing C for every answer.
“War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other.” Niko Bellic
"The old were young once and the young will be old some day." Bello Nikic
It really is a great quote
@@TristenTheArgonian its satirized
Yes this comment again
Damn the video game character have more common sense than goverment
6:55 I never expected to see an animated parody of that one 300+lb dude bump firing a handgun, yet here we are lol
The meme
It should be said, these men were not stupid, they were handicapped. These were not slackers or idiots or the lazy. They were mentally handicapped, while some suffered only minor issues such as difficulty in communications, others lacked the mental processes to understand anything beyond the most basic instructions. Most were little more capable than 5th graders mentally, while some were even worse. These men tried their best, and many fought with courage and strength, but because they could only understand very simple instructions, basic combat training did not take well with them, nor did battlefield experience, and so unlike other soldiers, these men would not always learn from mistakes made on the battlefield because they actually couldnt. These men wanted nothing more than to feel normal, to feel like real people and not the cripples theyd been treated like their entire lives. And instead, many came back maimed and decimated.
They are still human. They did things most people didn't have the balls to do. They deserve at least an ounce of respect. Not all of us can be born with a full deck. I am empathetic towards these men. They deserve better.
God bless these men. They may have had low IQs but they had big hearts. They were lied too and it's disgusting and upsetting. Thank you for your service and all men and women in any of our armed services. We appreciate 🙏 your sacrifices and its never forgotten.
Well said
I agree, but also we should hold corrupt officials accountable. No more corrupt wars
Like Autism
Empty sacrifices and wasted ''valor'' for a proxy war.
@@somerandomguy6977 it will keep happening as long as there are people have power. Both Iraqi wars were fueled with lies from WMDs to false testimonies by Nayirah. The last one killed a MILLION people based on literal lies
I knew a man who was a Marine D.I. when this “Project” kicked-in. He told me that he and the other D.I.s did everything they could to get these guys discharged and sent home but it was all to no avail. He felt sick over it.
The animations and sound FX make the situation seem far more comedic than it actually was.
dude wtf simple history i can’t believe my eyes rn
It actually makes it even sadder.
Yeah, I don't wanna sound like an SJW but the way people with special needs were depicted kind of undermines the message.
I mean it’s pretty realistic if you’ve spent over an hour around these guys
The animations are hilarious
0:56 using a rifle as a bow and arrow😂😂😂😂
So basically Forrest Gump.
i think Private Pyle is better example , Gump knows how to take cover and use gun safety lock
@@Thatswildpimp well, he's a God damned genius
More like private Pyle. Forrest Gump was actually a fairly bright and intelligent soldier compared to Pyle who was a slow learner.
@@pacifichistorian Pyle was a good marksman though
@@duongngoc6715 ehh, I believe Pyle otherwise was perfectly independent as a person. He was just never cut out to be a Soldier and that is putting it mildly.
I, for one, think that the mockery of these soldiers is harsh and heartless. The many comments here, calling them morons and even the animation. These are young men who were used, abuse, failed and abandoned by their supposed betters. At the end of the day, no matter their IQ, these were still soldiers who fought for their country and many sacrificed a lot in the process. This is something I can respect, and I thank them for their service.
Well said
Written like a BOSS!
Your right. They still served.
They didn't volunteer....they got forced by literally gunpoint to be shipped half way across the world when most had never left their county of birth.....
The fact that the American government saw fit to send frightened people who had mental health issues/developmental disabilities to a batpoop insane conflict then totally ignored them when they came home speaks volumes about the fucked up core values that the American people collectively share
Cry about it 😂
The legacy of this program was still being felt when I was in the US army in the 1980s. They were working hard to rebuild force readiness with individuals intellectually capable of situational awareness
You can Thank Jimmy Carter for that
People said that Stripes was not a comedy but a documentary for the post Vietnam early 80s Army.
Honestly project 100,000 should receive far more attention. A cautionary tale of what can happen.
“The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools.”
Thucydides
McNamara was using WW2 military tactics.He believed in superior Air Power and superior manpower.But,the war was part unconventional tactics and conventional tactics.McNamara just wanted bodies in the field or cannon fodder.
I surmise that McNamara's objective was of a more sinister bent than depicted here. I believe that he sent the low IQ troops to Vietnam in a effort to actively eliminate "unwanteds" through combat.
Actually, McNamara believed that technology could overcome the most fundamental reality of war.
To win at war, you absolutely MUST have MANPOWER as a prerequisite. As the war in Ukraine absolutely proves, you simply can not get around this rule. Ukraine has mobilized 1 million men (granted not all are fully equipped or thoroughly trained). Russia foolishly only sent in a force of 150 thousand. The most basic rule of war is you need a 10 to 1 advantage to conquer your opponent on their own soil. Putin put too much faith in "hybrid war".
Now the key word here is "conquer". On the other hand, if your not interested in ruling over an opponent but simply wish to genocidely exterminate them, the 10-to-1 rule no longer applies.
He was a scumbag and amongst the few generals, officers, and service members who should've been imprisoned for their actions.
Dude he’s just doing procedures he was allowed to.
You don't have to be a genius to pull a trigger. Some of the men drafted in WW2. Could barely read.
These men deserve RESPECT and HONOR.
I could tell the animators had a lot of fun with this one
i'm eager to say, TOO much fun
There's alot of butthurt ppl in the comments 🤣🤣 not this one BTW
it was actually extremely disrespectful. i'm surprised it hasn't been flagged.
Yeah there is nothing like insulting people who died for their country to have a great time! What idiots.
@@SlumberBear2k seethe harder, pearl clutcher
Unfortunately this is still true to some extent. During my time in the Army I met guys who were some of the smartest people I've ever known. I also met some of the dumbest people I've ever known. Some needed 5-6 attempts to pass the ASVAB which really isn't a difficult test.
Jast wow I passed the asvab in hischool
Who knows what level of add and other problems they may have.
@@eurosonly I have ADHD, lied to enlist, scored expert on every rifle qualification and 100% on every gunners exam being an 11C and made it through a whole combat deployment, I hate that ADD and ADHD gets brought up, it's bullshit, I even stopped taking my meth in pill form when I enlisted
tried some sample ones and yeah the topics are piss simple but I mightve averaged 70% which is frankly embarassing
Methamphetamine is very hard to get prescribed for adhd, and methylphenidate is not methamphetamine, nor is amphetamine.
The animators definitely had tons of fun animating this, 6:55 is my favorite, I didn't expect that reference!
IKR I COULDNT STOP WATCHING IT, defo my fav part of the vid lmao
6:42 I can’t stop laughing
“promise of a bright future”
🤤🤪
My Air Force recruiter used me to fill a slot at the last minute. An asterisk followed me thru my entire time in the Air Force on all personnel list. Finally found out I was part of the moron quota as my first sergeant said. I did pretty well making e5 in three years.
That must have been humiliating.
Lmfao
I feel sorry for anyone stupid enough to go into the military.
Well you write better than a lot of TH-cam commenters, and better than everyone using TikTok.
Your recruiter should have put himself in
The fact We treated our veterans so poorly, especially when they already were treated poorly before is just downright disgusting and breaks my heart
I wasn’t alive for this time in history, but I just can’t believe our government. Sending 100,000 low IQ men to their deaths? What’s really sad is that they weren’t even treated as heroes. It’s very sad to see the way people treated these guys when they got back home. If you have a IQ of less than 75, you probably wouldn’t know any better.
Still treating them poorly, there's a vote in Congress that's going to cut funding to over 20% of disabled vets...
invaders get what they deserve
We try to place blame on the troops. The blame is ours.....hows jane fonda doing? Or should i call her hanoi jane
I agree no wonder some of them went Rambo or rather I wish they did.
*”Scraping the barrel”*
25% recruitable population
These people were just plain dangerous in the field. A friend of mine and I were talking one day, and he said "In the first week the shitheads extra thick get it, in the second week the regular shitheads get it, after that it's luck or no luck." I'll always remember that.
Probably better than putting them into political leadership positions like we do now.
Bruh that comment made my day
Damn
Would it hurt less if it wasn’t true? 😢
LOL...
All too true
Let us take a moment to honor those who served and sacrificed in this ridiculous conflict, and who were treated just as ridiculously unfairly when they returned. Those who did return.
“Sometimes when people go to Vietnam, they go home to their mommas without any legs. Sometimes they don't go home at all."
There was a surviving MM in a neighboring town where I grew up. He got married after VietNam, and fathered two special needs daughters. The family were all still together in the early 2000’s. The highlight of their week was going to the town diner. Even there, they kept to themselves.
Duh I wonder why.Maybe the daughters were the results of Agent Orange.😢😮
Something that is amazing to me is how this program is completely vital to the plot of some Vietnam war movies, but also completely ignored in all of them.
Off the top of my head the characters of: Forrest Gump, Benjamin "Bubba" Blue and Leonard "Private Pyle" Lawrence come to mind.
None of those characters make ANY sense historically without Project 100K, but it goes completely unacknowledged in both movies.
Not defending the program, just an observation.
everyone was subject to the draft. the only ones that got out of it were the rich kids and the politicians sons. and, even at that, the rich kids had to stay in college.
Bubba wasn’t stupid
Bubba was a savant, he knew everything about the shrimp business 🦐 ⛵
Forrest Gump was his story told from his perspective. Gump probably never read about anything political and was too busy living in the moment to care.
Same, why weren’t they mentioned? I kept thinking, “doesn’t a solider need an IQ of 83 or higher to enter the military?” This would’ve answered my question.
Seriously, anyone who comes up with this program deserves to be in the front line themselves.
My uncle was one of the low IQ soldier who fought in Vietnam war. He earned a medal for saving his squad leader, whom he carried on his back away from an airstrike. Unfortunately he lost his best friend and in his honor, he and his squad leader, a lieutenant, started a Shrimping boat company, he found success and married his childhood friend Jenny whom he lives with today. Every year, he runs a marathon for peace across the States. He is a very positive man, he always says, life is a Chocolate box.
You just copied the plot to Forrest Gump!
They had us in the first half ngl.
Wow! What an inspirational story! We should make that into a film!
Wait a minute...
Except Jenny had a history of abusive relationships and a couple trains run on her when she was a wild child in her youth and gave your uncle the AIDS and a baby by another man.
Yeah, that could definitely be made into a movie. Maybe even into a romance film. Call it "Forrest Simp".
I knew it by the 2nd sentence lmao
I salute this channel for fighting the urge to call them "special" forces
I'm glad they animated this episode with so much respect and dignity 😂
😂😂😂😂
I feel sorry for any of those guys watching this.
Seems the narrator don't like uneducated people.
@@gwiz3059they aren’t around I’m pretty sure 😂
@@intergalacticolive The Vietnam war didn't happen that long ago. I go on Arma 3 and Vietnam veterans regularly play on a game that was meant for teens and young adults. Wouldn't surprise me if a low IQ veteran stumbled across this video.
"We need another Vietnam to thin out their ranks a little." - Bart Simpson 1995
Me: **in the spectators area in doomspire brickbattle with my buddy cole**
Random guy in the spectators area with us: **starts blasted me with slingshot balls**
Me and cole: **starts attacking the Random guy with the slingshot weapon aswell**
Me 3 secs into the fight: this is a Bart Simpson war
Old Simpsons episodes are wild
Or another world war. And imagine if the woke and dumb Americans would go to war. 😅
From what I heard, these "new standards men" were putting their own comrades in danger, because of their inability to correctly throw a grenade, or to differenciate friend vs. foe.
So after friendly fire incidents, some soldiers decided it was best to eliminate the problem one way or another. It would have been easy to make it look like an accident or blame the enemy.
That's just sad to read - but very plausible.
It's this guy or the whole platoon.
I was a lousy student in high school. I dropped out. As a teen I got in some trouble with the police more than once. Some people thought I was stupid, others thought I was a little crazy. Okay more than a little. I would have been perfect cannon fodder in that war. I was even '' invited'' to join. I wasn't that crazy or that stupid. Now I am an old man that enjoyed the gift of life.
"At the heart of every great disaster, there is a Harvard man" -Thomas Sowell (PhD Economics, author of many books, and Harvard graduate).
Although I understand the need to recruit as many men as possible, I cannot stress enough that “McNamara’s Morons” was disgusting and in poor taste. Sending the mentally disabled to certain death is just evil.
I wish I was sent to death, they don’t care about us anyways
See also: the entire russian army.
@@KasumiRINA The Red Army’s doctrine was they can’t kill ALL of us, can they? They gotta run out of bullets eventually.
@@KasumiRINA lol
@@KasumiRINA why do you guys make everything into russia or ukriane? You people have little to worry about do you
Glad this story is told, but it feels somewhat disrespectful to depict the soldiers as literally drooling and disgusting. The narration express rightful sympathy for these men while the animation reduces them to objects of mockery.
If you spent even an hour around these types of people you'd know this isn't entirely inaccurate 😂 Back in those days there was a term used to describe these types of people; mentally retarded. Because they were slow.
Everything is a issue 🤣🤣🤣
I think it's to bring weight to the fact that they literally enlisted people who are certified retarded,not like they can say that without offending someone.
some of them were not very smart and some of them were real morons. that is story
The Narrator: These men endured torture and violent warfare.
The background: 😂😅😮😆😁😄😃😀
The animations are needlessly cruel, but I think the overall message is good.
Yea. Needlesly heavy stereotyping and stupid childish portrayl of them
Art imitates reality.
It's funny tho, you need to know these people are stupid bozo that has been exploited by evil emperor errr I mean president.
@@Deridus only a true American would call a south park animation style "art"
@@zamn2315 part of being an artist is knowing that your style can put food on the table. If it's popular, then that style can become your brand. Plus the animation style is economical for it's simplicity. Whether that style appeals to an individual would depend on the their taste. Art styles change, so you would only have to wait some time for people to bored of it, other artists to create something different, or to look for other existing styles now. I'm ok for what simple history has as some of the animation has been improving while keeping the overall style recognizable.
My friend told me a story about how his grandfather witnessed a mentally disabled soldier get beaten to death by other soldiers on an Army base in Vietnam.
American morals at their finest
Other Americans? Dang.
@@zamn2315 The Asians chain and beat up their mentally ill too lol
He probably endangered their safety.
He probably did something that endangered the unit.
When watching this, im unable to stop thinking about the Norwegian funny soldier, Læffy. 😂
I wish this was more widespread knowledge. Jocko has a really good episode on this topic that dives into it further. Absolutely horrific.
The only time this worked in Vietnam is when a soldier was captured as a P.O.W. and he was able to convince the VC that he was slow. They even nicknamed him “The Stupid One” and let him walk around the camp cuz they didn’t see him as a threat. If I remember right either he escaped or was able to get everyone rescued from the prison
I couldn't believe Charlie would fall for that. Now it all makes horrible sense.
"You. Are. Simple Jack."
They've made a video about him already as well
@@jestioko8741 AND THIS IS FRAMING DRAGON!
He escaped and brought back a mountain of useful and actionable intelligence.
U.S Marine: we weren’t expecting special forces
Ironic a Marine would say that....
Bruh wdym? Those were just fellow Marines joining in the fight.
Don’t get why they’re called special forces, they seemed like regular marines to me
@@aquatic4760 *Special Ed*
stolen comment
McNamara himself had PTSD from the Dresden fire bombing of WW2 (which explains a lot of his decisions/actions during his tenure as secretary of defense).
I'd love to see a simple history video on the bombing of dresden.
It was a war crime, as dresden was packed with civilians fleeing the fighting and famine.
do you mean moron?
D.I: “Gump, what is your purpose in this army “?
G: “To do whatever you tell me to Drill Sargent”!
So basically because you were poor, not fit or not smart you can serve a
better purpose to get yourself killed, crippled or left with a
nightmare that won't go away if your asleep or awake, but your life will
be bettered? Funny point of view, and well done to yourself for highlighting this
More people that go in the military are not killed.
Given that those with less intelligence are more likely to experience PTSD I'd imagine that those who survived possibly came back more screwed up then they were when they shipped out.
This was essentially sending children into a war zone, an act that is considered a crime in most of the world.
It actually stated that in this video. Honestly, I think the ones that died were the lucky ones.
There not kids.
@@Remake5182 they are not kids. they have even less brain than kids.
@@Remake5182reading comprehension
@shibalegend3982 And what about ones who were legitimately insane. Imagine drafting someone who might possibly become a serial killer.
I joined the army at 17 in 2003. Out of the 65 man platoon only 10-15 guys were qualified to be soilders. The rest were idiots that joined the military for stability and a way out.
Thank you Simple History, for depicting people exploited by their country as cannon fodder in war who saw much higher deaths and rates of PTSD as such a whimsical and light-hearted topic
why are you thanking him? did you watch how offensive this video was?
They’re poor, they’re unwanted, yet they’re fighting for our society and our freedom. It’s weird, isn’t it? They’re the bottom of the barrel and they know it. Maybe that’s why they call themselves grunts, cause a grunt can take it, can take anything. They’re the best I’ve ever seen, Grandma. The heart and soul.”
Platoon
I can fully recommend this movie.
bruh they literally fought for war criminal not freedom and society. No freedom and society bring chemicals weapon to other country. America even want VN back to rock age using B52. what freedom do we get?
fighting for "freedom and society" is like finding "mass destructive weapon" in Iraq. Did America find it yet?
WHY 😮
I highly recommend Platoon to most everyone. I was too young for Nam by a couple years, but many of my colleagues and friends were there.
It should also be noted that (though not unusual) the folks who benefitted the most from opportuntities available in our society were often the least likely sacrifice and serve. The priviledged folks found ways to get out of serving and dodging the draft while leaving the poor and undereducated to risk their lives.
The Army taught you to adapt and overcome when you ran out of ammo by showing you you can use your rifle as a bow.
Improvise adapt and overcome😆
Wanna keep your good fighters alive, stand 20 tards in front of them to soak up bullets.
The m60 gunner from Full Metal Jacket instantly springs mind.
More like pvt. Pyle!
@@noahnewcomer5180 I feel like pvt. Pyle for not thinking of the absolute obvious.
Animal mother?
Animal mother?
Animal Mother was a great Marine
In the nine years I served, I met a LOT of people with arguably low IQs… and they were all volunteers.
is IQ really genetic?
@@angenehmerweiblicherfussge7000I think it's inherited
@@angenehmerweiblicherfussge7000no, iq is a number evaluated from tests, iq is not intelligence…
@@SmokeFactory so is intelligence genetic?
I served in the US Army for five years and can say without a doubt, some soldiers like that still get through...
@@silkysmooth3089 Wow, you really love learning! 5 degrees!
how much is your IQ ?
This was perfectly contextualized, great work. Rich kids are always exempt from the horrors of the war and the poor kids well they have no power so off to war you go.
Welcome to the World of illocracy
Very messed up that this happened so I'm glad you made this video to bring it to light.
Still the animations/sound effects seem to be making light of the soldiers which undermines the message
It's the same now as it was then. High ASVAB score: air traffic controller, interpreter, combat engineer, nuclear reactor operator, intelligence, electronics. Low ASVAB score: cannon fodder. It's called Survival of the Smartest.
You know their parents were shocked that they're accepted into the military and actually sent to the front line
"the daydreamers who sat in the back of class"
I felt that xD
Now imagine the Russian military after mobilization... Holy crap...
Lmfao
Yeah they dont even lie about it they are culling their peasants in the hopes of gaining some land truly evil oligarchy.
"Putin's Morons"
Consider how hammered Russians get daily probably the same condition.
Russkies Zionist
In Hearts of Iron IV you would call that "scraping the barrel"... cruelty aside, I cannot understand how anyone could think that this is an efficient way of actually bolstering your troops.
Simple, the slow guys were supposed to be cannon fodder / decoy for enemy troops to shoot at which in theory would help the regular i.q. men to get to safety while the cannon fodder got gun down. Plus if the enemy is firing upon the cannon fodder than the enemy just gave their position away so the regular troops can surround them and shoot them down.
Also it could be an eugenics programn.
@@k3kboi665
Very very likely. Eugenics only fell out of favor after WWII PUBLICALLY, privately it was still alive and well
Basically sacrifice those who would have no future and were useless and send them in hordes of groups without any guns or weapons so that they could just become distractions for the enemy which will exhaust the enemy a lot then the average normal soldiers could take out the weakened enemy
It would have been the best idea if it were utilized to dispose of people who would have never even had a chance in life to save others that could help later on
For perspective the average iq for a 13 year old American male is around 95. These were people who would have a difficult time stocking shelves or digging ditches. They were in no position to be making difficult life or death decisions in the chaos of battle.
The vast majority of them were Black's from the southern states.
Apparently people under 80 IQ cant even understand hypothetical situations. These guys didnt stand a chance.
These guys were below 85, that was the cut-off limit usually.
That might be the greatest thumbnail picture in history.
The messed up part not mentioned here and was in my opinion that these soldiers weren't just a danger to themselves but other soldiers as well
I witnessed these type of trainees @Ft. Bragg, NC in 1968. I was stunned that the Army Doctors allowed these poor children to be drafted. Usually, they were given jobs as grave diggers.
Special units is an understatement for the army
The project may have ended in the 70's, but filling the ranks with the same types of individuals, to meet a quota carried on.
Fort McClellan, Alabama 1983: guy to the right of me was in handcuffs, guy to the left of me could barely read or write. There was a couple that couldn't speak or understand English well. Me, terribly nearsighted and color blind, but I made it through.
Yeah, write...😄
@@r2gelfand just guessing, you mean "Right" instead of "write"
Y'all see my point?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love how the eraser on the desk had a bite taken out of it! (50 seconds in)
Whole new meaning to “simple history”