Military Copycats Who Stole Ideas From Other Countries
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Funny thing with the Galil: In order to prevent Magazines being used to open Bottled Beverages(Which in turn would cause damage to the magazines) They built the Galil A.R.M with a bottle opener at the Front hand guard.
This makes me like the Galil even more
My favorite thing about the Galil is that the original name of the creator was Balashnikov... We could have a copy of Kalashnikov called well... Balashnikov.
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@@indiasuperclean6969 😂😂😂 you again ...
the galil : the deadliest bottle opener in history
Uniforms and weapons being copied makes a lot of sense, afterall why waste time creating a new design when you can just copy one you're familiar with
You literally just summed up China
Exactly, that’s why I copy others in exams
every single chinese manufacturer
@@MackemBoy that's how I got thru school as a Engineer good thing I didn't need those skills in real life building bridges!!!
Shammed
pretty much the entire chinese military
Yeah cause china is scared of being invaded again.
I love this comment 😂
@@jacobzehner2004remember opium war?
@@jacobzehner2004 they're
Economy*
“This enraged everyone, who sued and punished them severely”
Fun fact: once quality control appeared for stens, they became sometimes equally as reliable as the Thompson (Bit exxagerated and only really in desert environments)
Sometimes?
@@DameDo414 because it does not require grease it was more reliable in dusty conditions
Where are you getting that information?
@@lepepelepub12 And the Sten was (kinda ironicly I guess), based on simplifying the lanchester MP. Which copied the German MP18/28. Since they didn't have time to design their own...
doubt
The animation of looking down sight looks absolutely amazing.
isn't this a reupload, i remember seeing this video before
@@hookfangtrew_yt2804 yes it is I saw this vid months ago
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Factory owner: "We can copy sophisticated guns, but we haven't figured out a way to drive our conveyor belts with something other than a big mechanical finger"
Legend has it that the Japanese shipped a Harley Davidson back to Japan, disassembled it and copied it.
Mockup
I wish it was one of those Voight/AMF ones made in the 70,s lol. Just teasin( My last bike was a Honda.)
@@greggrace967 😆👍
I have no idea how true the story is, but as far as go, Portuguese visited Japan in the age of navigation and left some carabiners, after a few years when they returned, the Japanese had hundreds of firearms.
The Guitar company Gibson lost plans for a prototype, the Moderne to the Japanese in the early 1970’s 2 decades after it was originally designed..
"Is this your original prototype plane?"
"No, the other one is the mother Fokker"
Yeah he got lucky with that one
pisses me off how much credit galil gets and nobody knows the rk62-95 line exists
Why? Are you a purist? Or are you Finnish? I guess they are obscure. I've never heard of them. I thought Sako was the Finnish arms maker. But then again... there is a lot of stuff IDK lol.
Yeah everyone worships the galil but it's just a ripoff of another existing product. Israel's military industry is no stranger to this
@@greggrace967 i am finnish yes, small countries like us deserve this kind of attention ;)
@@jes3d "small"
@@paprikaman1124 ...but influential.
If a design works, then it works for everyone who uses it. Technology has no loyalty to its inventor.
No such thing as a copycat. Adapt and overcome. Whoever comes out winning, that is all that matters.
Some people will change the name of bribery to lobbying, brutal murder to accidental manslaughter, welll we know =D
Spoken like a good puppet
Exacly, +china can copy usa quality if they wanted for less if they wanted to.
@@timumbra2476 The thing is, every industrialized country had a period of time being a copycat, and then they started innovation. thats just an inevitable developing stage.
@@komakush3358 Its different when you have been industrialized for so long, but lack the ability to innovate so you just keep copying.
My father worked for the U.S. Army in the 1970s for the Foreign Science and Technology Center (FSTC) whose entire purpose was to investigate what military equipment other countries had and to either be prepared for it or to copy it as appropriate. I can't tell you the specific models involved as I was a kid at the time and didn't know those details, but they especially liked to showcase the example of a truck-deployable floating bridge whose basic design they had copied from the Soviets. Something like the Standard Ribbon Bridge or Improved Ribbon Bridge family, where trucks carrying pontoon bridges can quickly deploy multiple sections of floating bridges to cross a river.
My father spent part of his time with the FSTC investigating foreign camouflage patterns as well, which ties in well with this video.
There’s a big difference between being inspired by a great idea/product & copying it identically down to the tiniest detail but I get what you’re saying. Outright copying weapons was one of the Soviet Union’s biggest mistakes & China is currently learning the same lesson. A great example is China’s vaunted stealth naval fleet which were built using stolen plans from the US. They’ve spent billions & billions of dollars building low quality ships that can be picked up by the cheapest radar equipment you can buy.
@@LudiCrust. - China has a history of spending money meant to build up a navy on things that don't do much good. Look up the history of the marble boat at the imperial palace in Beijing. 😉
that's a little shy of china having to copy absolutely everything they have
@@LudiCrust. tho they building that means if they manage to destroy the US's in a war , uno reverse my friend... tho the sky and sea probably be more "flooded"
The fact that everything is meticulously drawn as accurately as possible even showing the cross that shall not be named in the German WWII factories brings great respect from me. It’s very important to me that we remember what happened no matter what.
Swastika?
Do you realize the hilarious contradiction in your statement ?
@@Comrade-Canuck shhhhhh history is important!!! We must never forget it! But don’t say those words!!!! Reeeeee
@@alexmark8917 ooh, lol. I get it now. I thought you were not joking
You mean the ukrainian symbol? (ujel)
It not only happens now it happened during WW2 and probably WW1. But it was more with tanks and planes.
Gives the phrase ‘made in china’ a completely different meaning…
I would not trust a Chinese made firearm . Filthy broken commie “ingenuity”
@@jomaridelapaz3404 ...
No,that's exactly what made in chinà has always meant
during the pre ww2 era "made in usa" was used to label inferiors crap made in usa
People while mentioning the China copycat weapons forget that it was China who invented the GUN POWDER in the first place.
Three B-29s were interned by the Soviets after they were forced to make emergency landings in the Soviet Union following bombing runs in Japan. At the Tushino air show in 1947, in full view of the Americans... Four B-29s flew overhead! The forth was a reverse engineered Tupolev-4
I loveee your animations. Keep them up!!
if one thing can be "copied", which means it was not the cutting edge technic. Blaming someone the copycat can't help you win the war or battle, unique technics and weapons can.
Then why you copy others. Just make yourself. 😂😂
@@pranjalchetia4022 withou COPY of numbers (invented by Indians), you whith guys still calculated with fingers, why just make yourself?
@@Bennycndo you think so...? How about white guy in europe..?? Can you calculated with fingers to...?
@@kaisarnero999 I don't care who and where. Be creative and create things that others won't be able to copy, that's what strong man and power should do, rather than blaming others as 'copycat' like puxxy bxtch.
Logistics and production >>>> tactics and weapons
The Germans developed a camo pattern during WWII using squares of color. It was mostly used on vehicles. In the late 70s the US 2nd ACR painted their vehicles using a version of this camo. It was superior to the swirly pattern that was typical for that time, but did make the unit easy to identify. Fast forward to this century, and the USMC (then the other branches) launched "digital" camo uniforms using this same pixelation type box pattern. It has pretty much swung back to other patterns now.
As for the Howitzers that China copied from Russia. It may have been good to add in the American M109 in there as well. The form factor for all of them dates to WWII. As for the MG - these were such a significant jump that all major armies started work on a similar weapons platform. The M-60, while not a clone by any means, owes several head nods to the MG-42/44.
Marpat was licenced from the Cadpat development program
The M1903 is an example of this. It was a direct copy of the Mauser Gewher 98. Mauser sued the United States and won.
The Chinese rifle from the thumbnail has a voice box that the creator yelled “BAM BAM BAM” into it, and it plays whenever the trigger is pulled.
They forgot to mention who copied the Idea of making gun powder and paper 😂😂
I really enjoyed the animation in this video. I can tell lots of work went into it
Fun fact .. during the gulf war American military men were accused of looking very familiar to the WW2 Germans based off their helmets . So they eventually altered them ... Also the M60 that was used in vietnam looks a bit similar to the Germans mg42. If you look closely, youll see what i mean . The Germans knew how to build
The problem is not whether if those weapons are copied, the problem is China is capable of doing so with a much lower cost and other countries are desperate to do but incapable of doing so
说到仿制，也得有实力才能“仿制”，比如更长身管火炮的金属冶炼配方、锻造技术，无能的国家连炮弹技术都不可靠，更不用说能制造可靠的炮管了。
就像很多人说中国仿造了苏联的原子弹，可几十年过去了，原子弹很多国家能制造了，可能制造且装备氢弹的，还是只有包括中国在内的少数几个国家。
说中国抄袭高速列车的，自己列车不如中国先进。说中国制造是垃圾产品的，装作不知道最新的苹果手机也是中国制造😂
@@KING-XINJIANG I just hope we can live in peace.
@@028TuvaluanHero 说到和平相处，看看历史书，了解一下两百年来、一百年来、50年以来，地球上主动攻击别国的主要是哪些国家😂
现实告诉我们，弱者没资格说要和平相处，因为总能因为自己是弱者而招来霸凌。
所以，不欺负别人是一回事，不被别人伤害是另一会事，不被别人伤害的前提是先强壮自己。当那些强壮且有很多欺辱别人记录的人对你说：你的强壮无法让我们和平相处。这时，你要知道说话的人是怎样恶毒的心，你要把它的话当它在放屁
@@028TuvaluanHeroeasy, just leave east asia alone. Chinese have no interest in Europe and America.
@@028TuvaluanHero me too, but like the lord of war says, the oldest skeleton ever found has a spear in it's rib cage, its in human nature, we are too busy in killing each other , politicians try to advocate their ideologies, but at the end of the day its all about power and resources
When you are a copycat, you are always a step behind. Imagine during a war and you are one step behind your opponent.
Shamelessly "Papercliped" all our Equipment
This is usually not a result of industrial espionage, but reverse engineering.
Without licensing so it’s stealing tech. So YES IT IS industrial espionage.
Barbarian: "Yolo! I invented a round wheel". American patriot: Hey slow down buddy. We already patented it and will expose the copies on TH-cam. 😂
Everyone makes guns but few are designed for the soldier's ease of use.
"can i copy your Homework?"
"Just don't make it Obvious"
In China, "copyright" means "right to copy".
YES! Today they even copy what you don't have
Why would they respect rights of the US who wants to contain them? LOL make it make sense
All is fair and love and war.
This is nothing new. Every country tries to reverse engineer whatever they think the best kit is. But not every country is capable of reproducing the items. Either good security to limit massive data leaks or not being able to reproduce quality products.
In the modern era, it's totally inaccurate to say that similar-looking weapons are copying each other. Similar demands induce similar designs, and specific development level induces particular inventions. Most people who comment here have probably never realized that their countries directly procure foreign weapons instead of producing domestic ones because their countries are not even capable of making any decent products, no matter civil or military.
This is not only "in the modern era", this fact is also true in ancient eras. It's amazing how people have never wondered how some countries that exist thousands of kilometers from one another can create such similar looking swords, bows, et cetera. Designs simply follow functions and the convergent evolution theory comes to play.
One example is the Chinese's Spring and Autumn Sword that looks almost exactly like a Roman's Gladius even though they don't meet each other until much later.
People just love to accuse others of copying either out of 1) ego and pride, or 2) bias and hatred.
I'm not saying no one copies anything neither, they definitely copy each other. The problem is every single country on this planet does this and it's not exclusive to XYZ country. It's just the nature of competition at work. There is no code of honor in geopolitics and raw competition.
China will claim theirs are superior while it's a cheap clone. That's the difference. Even Italians innovate
@@Glorious_Kim_Jong_Un You have successfully proven your ignorance. Congrats.
when u copy your friends homework and u don't want your teacher to find out:
There is no moral advantage in disputing a country's right to copy, learn, or improve upon weapon designs. Firstly, it is hypocritical to blame China for copying weapon designs when it was China that invented gunpowder and the western world learned from them. Secondly, weapons are different from other patented items as they are used to kill people or threaten the lives of other countries. In this case, a country may do whatever it takes to gain access to the same weapons in order to maintain a balance and avoid external threats. Insisting that weapon designs have a moral high ground is simply foolish. When Genghis Khan slaughtered people in Europe, there was no moral high ground to prevent the spread of knight technology to other countries.
21:13 I love it how the captions say "fucker's" Instead of Fokker's
You should have mentioned the 1903 Springfield rifle being copied from the Mauser.
16:25 " excuse me? you're going to take _US_ to the hague? do i even need to say anything, you're literally *_GERMANY!_* "
Noticed the Chinese military are now using a dot matrix pattern camo that the Americans where using and abandoned a number of years ago.
😮Wow, your country ranks first in the world and the universe. China is inferior to your country. Don't bully us, you are already the first in the universe. Please don't bully us.
13:47: The Chinese soldier is STILL grinning when his CQ-311's buttstock falls off... 😂😂😂😂
There are no points for originality in war. The only goals are to win and survive
No sense in reinventing a "wheel" if it works.
The IWI Galil also came in 7.62X51mm NATO (not 7.62X39mm, which is what the AKs shot) versions, but they weren’t quite as common. Also, the 1:12 rifling twist simply means the bullet spins 1 revolution every 12 inches. The original XM16s all the way to the M16A1s did that, but starting with M16A2s and most the AR 15s of similar designs with 20” barrels, they had 1 in 7 inch revolution twists. The M4A1s and most the AR 15s of almost the same barrel length have 1 in 9 inch twists. In other words they’ll all shoot the same ammo, but the 1:7 and 1:9 twist do better with most kinds of ammo than the old 1:12s, that would cause certain kinds of ammo to be inaccurate or even lose stabilization.
NERRRRRRRDDDD
Jk, thanks for clarifying all of that.
Is this a re-upload? I feel like I’ve seen this same video before.
sorry for being the nerd emoji right now but a little correction at 20:49 the synchronizing mechanism was not a french invention, but a romanian invention created by the romanian engineer George Constantinescu for the british R.A.F.
Copies are deserved. Guess who made Gunpowder and who copied Gunpowder lol.
imagine the classmate who copied ur homework ends up scoring higher in exams than u.
Mirage III is sorely missing from this video. Also, spot camo was used in WW2 by Waffen SS units.
Flecktarn
Every military my entire career... wait thats my uniform. Change of uniform. 3 years go by.. hey... wait!
“Made in china” stands up to it’s name, even in war production.
I love how the American soldier in the thumbnail is getting progressively angrier in these Military Copycat videos. Lol
The Sten series of SMG is probably the closest the British ever came to making an actual pipe gun.
Germany was like: “So the British copy our MP18? Let’s copy their STEN gun.”
Is this a re-upload?
It's not about how they copy it, it's how the quality is
I love my Norinco CQ-A.
i love my m16
Where is my norinco CQ-A
As an engineer or speaking for a military designer, all you need is: hey at least it works!
I don’t know why countries get pissed off about this, if you send your troops into a warzone and an enemy wins the battle, don’t find it surprising when they take the guns for themselves
I got a laugh out of the stereotype of the guys in the American gun store. Such a stereotype. LOL! 🤣
There is no such thing as shamless in war. You're in it to win it whatever the cost. The winner writes the history while the loser disappears from the world or surrenders.
At one time, yes, before the internet
@@blackhawk7r221 True thou. I was NOT aware the US forces once retreated from Saigon in such an embarassed way until they did the same in Kabul about 2 years ago..
3:30 wasn't the MP 3008 an open bolt firearm? If so, why is it being portrayed as having a closed bolt?
I was expecting nothing but the Chinese military and I was not disappointed
The Thompson was/is so freakin rad. Just need a sharp dressing handsome man and a sweet 1930s era black car with the whitewall tires and real suicide doors. Yes, give me the fantasy.
My dad was a crewman in a Bradley tank during desert storm and was issued a m3 grease gun while the commander got a nice new mp5
bullet's a bullet, I guess...
In my unit, all Bradley crews used M16A2 rifles. The M2 BFV driver, gunner, and commander all had M16A2 rifles. Mechanics who were in an M88 had a choice between the M9 pistol or M3 grease gun. M1 Abrams drivers got an M9 pistol. I never seen an MP5 in a mech unit or in the Rangers. Maybe Delta or Special Forces used the MP5.
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" I don't know what it's called, all I know is the sound it makes when It Lies!!! "
The modern US military helmet and uniform looks a lot like the WWII German helmet and uniform. American copy from the German and the Chinese copy from American
"You can Copy my work, just don't make it obvious"
Don't forget about the Canadians CADPAT camouflage design. It came out in the 1990s and basically set the stage for all digital camo. So any digital camo was kind of a copycat in that way.
basically all militaries have been copycatting eachother forever.
Especially when it comes to vehicles
T-72 mockup with M1 Abrams
Is this a re-upload??? I could've sworn you guys already made this video???
Yes they did
Yep
I see some difference.
Like the man in suit holding a gun from first few minutes, I can see his eyes through sunglasses compared with the previous video, which can't be.
Yes but it's a longer video
It's summarized into one video
I wouldnt say copying is shameless. We all copy from each other. Thats how we learn and create even better models and ideas. Information written on a piece of paper that is later read by someone is also "copying". But we usually consider it copying when its in our competition (unwanted copying) . The wanted copying , we call it "teaching and learning"
Imagine if the Grease gun came in 7.62 Tokarev
I love at 11:57 the M16 is ejecting cases towards the camera, without the ejection port, while pointing right?
All sorts of messed up there.
The cartoon is priceless 😂👍
Galil's are actually from higher quality and durability than the gun they copied. It's one of the best assault rifles of the 20th century actually
Ak-47 does well in dust, fal doesn’t
Fal does well on mud, ak doesn’t
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
what a coincidence i just today checked out information on the Galil
China try not to steal ideas challenge (impossible)
America trying not to use Chinese cheap labour, (also impossible)
@@frosticle6409 What does that have anything to do with his comment or the video? Did he make you butthurt or something?
@@mrusername3438 I was just adding to the joke. Want another one?
@@mrusername3438 butt hurting American spotted. Off course we superior Americans never ever copied any industrial designs 😊
@@frosticle6409 Well your jokes is fun but did not age well lol, consider how most young people in China don't want to have kids, their labour market is going to get alot more expensive.
33:00 is actually DCU. Desert Camo Uni
The United States pays for the R&D, China hits the print button.
In WW I: German pays for the R&D, US hits the print button.
😮Wow, the United States ranks first in the world and the universe. China is inferior to the American Empire. Don't bully us You are already the first in the universe. Please don't bully us.😮
The Chinese invented gunpowder and the first gun and this is how they show gratitude to the rest of the world
@@tonythvch3500 Americans literally will think they invented the wheel and everyone else copied. Gotta admit their nationalism is unbeatable. 🤣
I believe the creator of the sten told his superiors he could make his guns ‘quick, cheap, or good. Pick two’
Made in China stickers are made in Korea
Made in America stickers are made in Mexico
Like how MAGA hats were made in China lol
Shameless? This is all about killings
Germany had over-engineered weapons and equipments back in ww2, probably the best and most high-tech but their leadership scwd them over.
The biggest negative of a copycat is that you're never the best. Can't copy top secret stuff that hasn't been released.
Why was this reuploaded?
Its a compilation
What did you do to the M16 for the US? The ejection port is on the right. Not the left side. Where is the ejection port?
For the American vehicles, one the helicopter was designed by the same person who designed the original and for the tank it was WWI everything was new. Have to start somewhere
And it was with licence
Imagine Chinese just the damn Kungfu in war xD
Unfortunately, what you said may include all countries. Everyone plagiarizes and imitates each other. When you specifically accuse China of plagiarism and imitation, take a look at how many other people's works you have plagiarized in your own country,
all other countries copy gunpowders from China.
Nowhere near as much as China, don't go off trying to defend them. They have copied everything, not just military tech, you're entire car industry is copy and paste from all over the globe is just a small example.
Not at all does it include all countries though. Very invalid thing to say when there is so much less proof, most of the technologies in the West are "SHARED" not "COPIED" I hope I don't need to explain the difference there. And that is blatantly obvious if you know anything about the history outside of China in the past 100-200 years.
Found the butthurt chinese
Well said
For the person doing the animations: The sten and mp 3008 are both open bolt machine guns
The MP3008 is how the sten probably should’ve been made as
The downwards magazine actually proved worse. The sten’s side loading magazine allowed British troops to lie prone and be more covert.
@@dWFnZWVr whether the pros outweighs the cons is subjective, but every other country pretty much used down facing magazines, which make it easy to move through doorways and easier to carry on a sling
Actually Canadian shooters liked Chinese clone AR-15s and Type-97's(5.56 NATO version of Type 95 rifle) and the Clone MP5.
There's people purchased a pre-full auto ban of AR-15 and MP5 clones here for civilian use. Like man, they work so good.
WW2 Germany designed some of the most beautiful firearms and uniforms.
Including their revolutionary use of branding and bold logos which influenced cooperate logos today.
Exactly ppl bash them so much heck the ppl bashing them are using there technology right now but I guess it’s only architecture that matters
Well.... The US Interstate system did copy 100% from German Autobahn.
I would not consider the Galil as a copy, but more so an improvement and modernization.
as a manufacturing engineer that had to reverse engineer things from many other companies and patents, but still be allowed (in USA), u can easily test hardness and material type even without blueprints. modern tech has came a far way (XRF) for that as well.
I don't think it's shameless.
Copy and building self is the path of progress.