Old mechanic trick, clean out the thread holes for the four mountain studs with thinners, dry them with rag on a screwdriver. Next, put "blue tread-lock" by lock-tight, on the studs course ends, tighten them with mole grips, if you don't have a stud remover. That is the correct way to fit studs that stay there! Oil the other ends and use your spring washers which is correct. Have a nice day. P/S: the P3 engine is the best one to have.
Good video, it is nice to see old and first ferguson tractor! It have P3 Perkins engine with wonderfull sound! I have IMT 533, it is build in yugoslavia 1970 based on Masey ferguson mf35 with perkins p3 engine licences!
Hi Dan, you asked for information regarding the plate on the trailer: The white reflective triangle on the back is a standard military specification marker to satisfy the legal requirements of the day. These were also fitted to most other MOD trailers, most commonly the 3/4 ton Sankey trailers towed by Landrovers. The cutout around the reflective plate would indicate only one was fitted, but they were normally fitted in pairs. Modern trailer reflectors are now just red plastic, but these are an earlier version, and were made by BLUEMELS. The PSA plate on the back would indicate that the trailer was operated by the The Property Services Agency (PSA), an MOD agency in existence from 1972 to 1993. Its role was to “provide, manage, maintain, and furnish the property used by the government, including defence establishments, offices, courts, research laboratories, training centres and land”. Most garrisons, for example Warminster, Larkhill, Bulford, etc. would have their own PSA maintenance teams. The 9/10004 would probably identify the area and section where your trailer was used. I’ll try and find out for you. Now the plate on the side. It was difficult to see the plate clearly in the video, but I got most of it. TRAILER, TIPPER, 3 TON, 2 WH. (Wheeled), FERGUSON CONT No WV/4816/FER36 - is the MOD contract number that was used to procure a batch of these trailers from Ferguson, to a specification in the contract. As you said, industrial with road legal lighting, but there could have also been some other non-standard items and tools required by the contract. 02 ET 35? - is the Vehicle Registration Number for the trailer (Now In military terms called an ERM = Equipment Registration Mark). Although in civil use in the U.K., a trailer normally adopts the same number as its towing vehicle, but all military vehicles, trailers and plant were issued their own number for identification purposes. The trailer would have had its own record book for services and inspections. Can’t see clearly, but on the plate you should also see an Asset number, which is a NATO devised numbering system to identify any military asset, and a CES number, which is for the Complete Equipment Schedule, which would provide a list of all items fitted as part of the trailer and any loose ancillary items. There would have been other documents for the trailer, for example, illustrated parts list and engineering instructions for repair and modifications. If you could post a decent photo of the plate, Dan, I’ll try and give you some more information. One last thing, I believe also originally fitted to the industrial trailer would have been a pair of mudguards fitted behind the wheels, but as you would know, they don’t stay on long when operating in mud! Hope this helps, Dan. Please keep making the videos as I find them very informative. I’m looking to buy a tractor for hobby tinkering, and want to have a bash at some ploughing. I used to drive a Ford 5000 on a Holstein Friesian dairy farm many, many years ago, and my Dad drove a Grey Fergie TVO and then a Massey Ferguson 65. I keep thinking about getting a 65, but keep reading mixed reports about them. Have you had any experience with the 65? Best regards, Ian
Hi Ian, this is the best comment I've ever had on a video, thanks very much! If you email me on cowfarmerdan@gmail.com I'll get a better photo for you. You won't go wrong with an MF 65. The mark 2 is more common, the engines are brilliant, dry brakes aren't the best but perfectly serviceable. Some people say the clutch pedal is a bit high as it pivots at the rear, but that's personal preference really.
Much more of an art to hitchin up to a trailer then than there is now with push back hitches 💪 notice that hitch a fairly early one with the button as opposed to the right angled lever👍👍
Hello greetings from Turkey. We have been using this system for many years. We just attach more useful hooks. It's a little long and it needs to be locked. When Tarktor collects it on the road, ramork comes out.
Great vid Dan ,I amazed at how much Fergusson and MF made items work just by using their three point lift system ,considering it all came from one oil pump . They certainly use their grey matter to do amazing ways to make it easy for their farmers
I learn't a lesson a bit late here! Studs,I have only retro fitted one of these ahd the dealer gave me bolts. I even fitted a regular draw bar to a 40 digger and used bolts (it was'nt much good as with the low ground clearance i could snag on stuff. Anyway aged 70 I have been wised up! Thank you.
A tillage farmer I worked for bought a Massey 165 new in 1968,it had a T bar hitch,I think it would have been the last Massey to use that type of hitch,he bought massey 178 in 1969,it had the hitch with 2 vertical bars,then came the 188 with the chains.He bought his first new 188 in 1971 it cost £1750,I can still remember the reg no,SAI 178,(Ireland).
Dan, enjoyed this one, brought back memories of using the pick up hitch on the 135MP I used to own, the hitch was fitted so I borrowed a T Bar and the stays and it woked a treat hauling spoil from the digging out of my driveway.
That was a very good video - except I am a woman wanting to learn to do everything by myself and you did not show how to get the lever thing off the tractor and how to replace it. Thank you for taking time to do the video.
thank you for your videos.. i have just bought my first 1952 gray and was needing advice on how to put a pickup hook on thank you again your very helpfull.. can i put a linkbox on this tractor that i bought and how do you do it.
Hi Dan another great video I was never a big fan of pickup hitches always liked to use the old drawbar pleased you explained the difference between a industrial trailer and agriculture trailer was thinking is there a difference.
Interesting. Good to see how you mounted the actual hitch part, but, it would have been informative for a close up of the installation of the three point linkage and connecting to the trailer. I could not work out how the plate stopping the trailer falling off opened up to allow the trailer to connect.. I’ve got a rough idea how it works but a close up would have been better.
Well I'll be! I didn't realise that it was a proper puh on the Fergys! I know there are some bars kicking around for the tvo that's at work but I think there stabiliser bars (slotted) and I didn't know about the industrial trailers... that's been an education on a Saturday morning😂😊
Totally other system than what I watched on -fattigbrukarn-where he was 🔨 like crazy while lubing it up to get it back to operational condi.Chains going down to the hook system on his 165er.
Thanks for sharing Farmer Dan! Quick question- my Marshall trailer will tip perfectly when not hitched to my td20, but when sitting on the hitch, she won’t tip, any ideas what’s going on there? Plenty oil in the system, rear arms and pto work well, although I’m wondering if the draught spring needs tweaked up a turn or two? Appreciate anyone putting up these kind of helpful vids, I know it must take a fair bit of time, but they are absolute gold for so many folks. 👌
@@CowfarmerDan I think it is Dan, as the lift arms work well, and hold position, but maybe I should try adjusting the control and see what happens. Am I correct in thinking the preload on the draught spring may also affect the raising and lowering of the linkage? I appreciate the feedback, I’m going to have a crack at adjusting it tomorrow and see what happens.
Hi Dan, thanks for a great video. I've just brought an original auto hitch but it has lost both its springs. Can you tell me the sizes of the replacement springs I'll need? Thanks
Old mechanic trick, clean out the thread holes for the four mountain studs with thinners, dry them with rag on a screwdriver.
Next, put "blue tread-lock" by lock-tight, on the studs course ends, tighten them with mole grips, if you don't have a stud remover.
That is the correct way to fit studs that stay there! Oil the other ends and use your spring washers which is correct. Have a nice day.
P/S: the P3 engine is the best one to have.
Good video, it is nice to see old and first ferguson tractor! It have P3 Perkins engine with wonderfull sound! I have IMT 533, it is build in yugoslavia 1970 based on Masey ferguson mf35 with perkins p3 engine licences!
Great video. Nice tractor and trailer. Keep up the good work.
Hi Dan, you asked for information regarding the plate on the trailer:
The white reflective triangle on the back is a standard military specification marker to satisfy the legal requirements of the day. These were also fitted to most other MOD trailers, most commonly the 3/4 ton Sankey trailers towed by Landrovers. The cutout around the reflective plate would indicate only one was fitted, but they were normally fitted in pairs. Modern trailer reflectors are now just red plastic, but these are an earlier version, and were made by BLUEMELS.
The PSA plate on the back would indicate that the trailer was operated by the The Property Services Agency (PSA), an MOD agency in existence from 1972 to 1993. Its role was to “provide, manage, maintain, and furnish the property used by the government, including defence establishments, offices, courts, research laboratories, training centres and land”. Most garrisons, for example Warminster, Larkhill, Bulford, etc. would have their own PSA maintenance teams. The 9/10004 would probably identify the area and section where your trailer was used. I’ll try and find out for you.
Now the plate on the side. It was difficult to see the plate clearly in the video, but I got most of it.
TRAILER, TIPPER, 3 TON, 2 WH. (Wheeled), FERGUSON
CONT No WV/4816/FER36 - is the MOD contract number that was used to procure a batch of these trailers from Ferguson, to a specification in the contract. As you said, industrial with road legal lighting, but there could have also been some other non-standard items and tools required by the contract.
02 ET 35? - is the Vehicle Registration Number for the trailer (Now In military terms called an ERM = Equipment Registration Mark). Although in civil use in the U.K., a trailer normally adopts the same number as its towing vehicle, but all military vehicles, trailers and plant were issued their own number for identification purposes. The trailer would have had its own record book for services and inspections.
Can’t see clearly, but on the plate you should also see an Asset number, which is a NATO devised numbering system to identify any military asset, and a CES number, which is for the Complete Equipment Schedule, which would provide a list of all items fitted as part of the trailer and any loose ancillary items.
There would have been other documents for the trailer, for example, illustrated parts list and engineering instructions for repair and modifications.
If you could post a decent photo of the plate, Dan, I’ll try and give you some more information.
One last thing, I believe also originally fitted to the industrial trailer would have been a pair of mudguards fitted behind the wheels, but as you would know, they don’t stay on long when operating in mud!
Hope this helps, Dan. Please keep making the videos as I find them very informative. I’m looking to buy a tractor for hobby tinkering, and want to have a bash at some ploughing. I used to drive a Ford 5000 on a Holstein Friesian dairy farm many, many years ago, and my Dad drove a Grey Fergie TVO and then a Massey Ferguson 65. I keep thinking about getting a 65, but keep reading mixed reports about them. Have you had any experience with the 65?
Best regards, Ian
Hi Ian, this is the best comment I've ever had on a video, thanks very much!
If you email me on cowfarmerdan@gmail.com
I'll get a better photo for you.
You won't go wrong with an MF 65.
The mark 2 is more common, the engines are brilliant, dry brakes aren't the best but perfectly serviceable. Some people say the clutch pedal is a bit high as it pivots at the rear, but that's personal preference really.
Happy to help, Dan. I’ve sent you an email.
Much more of an art to hitchin up to a trailer then than there is now with push back hitches 💪 notice that hitch a fairly early one with the button as opposed to the right angled lever👍👍
Yes, the TE 20 ones had the button, the lever type came out with the 35.
Never seen a MF industrial trailer before, nice videos always bring back lovely memories of working with my dad when i was a lad thanks 👍
Excellent video, the TE20 sounds great!
Hello greetings from Turkey. We have been using this system for many years. We just attach more useful hooks. It's a little long and it needs to be locked. When Tarktor collects it on the road, ramork comes out.
Great vid Dan ,I amazed at how much Fergusson and MF made items work just by using their three point lift system ,considering it all came from one oil pump . They certainly use their grey matter to do amazing ways to make it easy for their farmers
Good evening Dan , thank you for the video and Take Care 👍😎🇬🇧.
Good video proper job 👍 I just bought my first TEF 20 and I have a hitch so this is a good way of showing it work
Great video nice to see 👍
I learn't a lesson a bit late here! Studs,I have only retro fitted one of these ahd the dealer gave me bolts. I even fitted a regular draw bar to a 40 digger and used bolts (it was'nt much good as with the low ground clearance i could snag on stuff. Anyway aged 70 I have been wised up! Thank you.
Thank you for another great video.
A tillage farmer I worked for bought a Massey 165 new in 1968,it had a T bar hitch,I think it would have been the last Massey to use that type of hitch,he bought massey 178 in 1969,it had the hitch with 2 vertical bars,then came the 188 with the chains.He bought his first new 188 in 1971 it cost £1750,I can still remember the reg no,SAI 178,(Ireland).
Top job Dan much enjoyed
Dan, enjoyed this one, brought back memories of using the pick up hitch on the 135MP I used to own, the hitch was fitted so I borrowed a T Bar and the stays and it woked a treat hauling spoil from the digging out of my driveway.
keep it up! one day dan we will read a bigger number of subs
Loving the upload schedule dan!!!!
Nice video Dan, good to see the t20 out again.
That was a very good video - except I am a woman wanting to learn to do everything by myself and you did not show how to get the lever thing off the tractor and how to replace it. Thank you for taking time to do the video.
What do you mean by the lever thing?
Send me an email to cowfarmerdan@gmail.com and I'll try and help you.
@@CowfarmerDan Hi Dan, the lever thing was the PTO lever and you have resolved that issue thanks.
Nice
That looked plenty heavy enough by yourself. Nice lil snapshot.
The trailer was used by the property service agency which was the land management for MOD as the dater plate is for MOD equipment
thank you for your videos.. i have just bought my first 1952 gray and was needing advice on how to put a pickup hook on thank you again your very helpfull.. can i put a linkbox on this tractor that i bought and how do you do it.
Nice to see a Ferguson start first time ours takes about a minute to start
If everything is correct they crank right up
but this a P3
@@simonworman7898 get injecters and pump recallibrated
Fantastic video dan
Nice new tractor dan that a good one
Very informative video dan well done, I'm new to your channel really enjoying your vids. Great work.
Hi Dan another great video I was never a big fan of pickup hitches always liked to use the old drawbar pleased you explained the difference between a industrial trailer and agriculture trailer was thinking is there a difference.
Very good, your back tyres could do with a pumping.
love it
Interesting. Good to see how you mounted the actual hitch part, but, it would have been informative for a close up of the installation of the three point linkage and connecting to the trailer.
I could not work out how the plate stopping the trailer falling off opened up to allow the trailer to connect..
I’ve got a rough idea how it works but a close up would have been better.
very griping vids love em!!!
Well I'll be! I didn't realise that it was a proper puh on the Fergys! I know there are some bars kicking around for the tvo that's at work but I think there stabiliser bars (slotted) and I didn't know about the industrial trailers... that's been an education on a Saturday morning😂😊
The slotted bars are for the 9 hole drawbar.
Harry Ferguson liked to have everything available for his tractors.
Grindheim
thanks for sharing new sub
Interesting trailer Dan very nice would the later 35,135 type hook fit that trailer ring better
Yes, the TE 20 hook is very narrow.
Is the T Bar an early one? The one my father has, has holes along it so you could still use it for the jaw style hitch, I presume is a later style.
Yes, it's the proper TE 20 one.
Totally other system than what I watched on -fattigbrukarn-where he was 🔨 like crazy while lubing it up to get it back to operational condi.Chains going down to the hook system on his 165er.
👍
Thanks for sharing Farmer Dan! Quick question- my Marshall trailer will tip perfectly when not hitched to my td20, but when sitting on the hitch, she won’t tip, any ideas what’s going on there? Plenty oil in the system, rear arms and pto work well, although I’m wondering if the draught spring needs tweaked up a turn or two? Appreciate anyone putting up these kind of helpful vids, I know it must take a fair bit of time, but they are absolute gold for so many folks. 👌
Do you have a Ferguson T bar fitted between the link arms and the dead link at the top of the differential housing?
@@CowfarmerDan yes I do Dan.
Is your control lever set correctly on the mounting bolts?
@@CowfarmerDan I think it is Dan, as the lift arms work well, and hold position, but maybe I should try adjusting the control and see what happens. Am I correct in thinking the preload on the draught spring may also affect the raising and lowering of the linkage? I appreciate the feedback, I’m going to have a crack at adjusting it tomorrow and see what happens.
I don't think the spring will affect much without any weight on it, like an implement but it's definitely worth adjusting if it's a little out.
Hi Dan, thanks for a great video. I've just brought an original auto hitch but it has lost both its springs. Can you tell me the sizes of the replacement springs I'll need? Thanks
What tractor is it for?
A TED20 1951. The hitch I've got looks exactly the same as yours
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This type of hitch presently used in india.
Who else is here from dagwins video?
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