The way Thrawn realizes that Anakin trained Ahsoka was really natural. It's a realization that forces him to switch gears and take careful planning against an enemy known for unpredictable but successful plans.
It's also subtle how Thrawn immediately asks if there was only 1 starship. Whenever Vader arrives to settle something personal, he always comes by himself in his TIE interceptor, just like Ahsoka in this scene.
But this cartoon version of Thrawn is a complete idiot. He gets defeated by everyone. Preparring for a ground assault meant ... NOTHING. They fired guns and none of the actually scored a hit. How about locking and barring the gates? Or mining the ground under the ship? How about launching more than 2 fighters? How about actually destroying the whales upon reemergence? How about the troopers actually firing on Ashoka and Sabine when their backs are turned? (happens like a hundred times). Basically, this show is a badly written, hurried season 5 of Rebels, with live action.
Beskar armor protects Sabine a lot. And trying to shoot at a Jedi is almost never useful unless you have truly insane levels of overwhelming firepower. The ship shooting would not work because the force protects Jedi quite a lot, specially since there is less of them. Its literal, in-universe plot armor. @@hibiscus779
He just knows any apprentice Anakin trained will be highly volatile emotionally and thus unpredictable. That man was having flashbacks of Clone Wars the moment he saw Anakin's name.
Not just volatile, but incredibly direct, bringing a mixture of power and a little cunning to bear. She's going to be direct, efficient, and if that fails, get creative in ways that are very unpredictable. I love it when the villain/antagonist _realizes_ how much trouble the heroes are going to be!
For those unfamiliar, the Thrawn: Alliances book delved into a mission where Thrawn and Anakin teamed up during the Clone Wars. The book also teased that Thrawn suspected Darth Vader and Anakin were one and the same - and there's a pretty great last minute reveal about Force-sensitive Chiss that confirm it.
I would not say he suspected it as he was literally trolling Vader with it.. like saying to him multiple times that "When we were the last time here" and Vader always corrected him that he was never there before
Thrawn is that nice middle ground of "how much is legends lore?" and "how much is Disney lore?" Unlike many, I find this game amusing rather than insulting. More so I get to giggle at those who don't know the difference. ie we don't get Mara Jade, and Luke dies mostly a virgin hermit, but this is a nice consolation prize. Cause tentacled Giant Space Whale doom is always better than looking at your former body guard and dying with "At least he did it artistically...." As Zahn turned Rhuk into what the Wookies (and Ewoks) should have been but still somehow failed to make them a lasting impression. Side note it was Lucas who HATED..... Thrawn, as anti-hero's are lost on the minds of children...... Unless your name is Vader. Anakin: "Your existence is a threat to my legitimacy!" Thrawn: "That sounds like a "you" problem... I'm trying to save the Galaxy.... Not failing my pseudo-mom, nor pseudo-wife, at almost the same time."
Bro that’s not a last reveal force sensitive whatever you just said Thrawns playing 5D chess why everyone’s playing 1D he’s one of the most intimidating and intelligent imperial officers to ever live
actually, it was being cautious. Thus, as he mentioned. There is no need to waste our resources. So sending in TIE fighters would be useless, might as well use the force of the great mothers to locate Ahsoka's location will be more cost-efficient and She'd be dancing on Thrawn's hand.
@@freeamericanthinker558Well he seemed to have known what he was going up against when he found out Ahsoka was indeed Anakin’s Apprentice, so probably not.
He realized Ahsoka is no ordinary Jedi as soon as he realized who her Master was. Everything she learned about the Force, Combat, Strategic thinking, etc. was from Anakin/Vader’s teachings which made her almost as dangerous as Vader.
@@juicemann6902in all fairness due to his age and disillusion with the Jedi order, he’s basically the dooku of his time. Plus he’s physically much larger than Ashoka which gives him an edge in physical combat like saber training. While her master was better than him, he has many more years experience.
I LOVED Thrawn: Alliances because of the "Bros to enemies to bros" relationship between Thrawn and Anakin/Vader. They have very snarky dialogues, as Thrawn brings Anakin up again and again and Vader completely denies it. This is one close to the end, where the tone is more nostalgic: “For a long moment, they stood together in silence. Vader thought about his secret... about Thrawn's loyalty... about the Emperor's continued need for him. Perhaps the entire Empire's need for him... "Anakin Skywalker is dead," he said. Thrawn lowered his head. "I know." Vader nodded slowly. *I know.* Not *So I have heard.* Not *So I was informed.* But *I know.* "We will not speak of him again," he said. "*You* will not speak of him again." "I understand, my lord," Thrawn said. "But I will always honor his legacy.”
@@commodorezero Probably not. Sure, he had a lot of respect for Anakin, and maybe a certain degree of comrade-ship if not friendship, but Thrawn is ultimately working to protect his people, and if Luke got in the way of that, I don't think he'd hesitate
Thank you for the info. Weird that Vader would not reveal that to Thrawn even though based on the dialogue it would appear obvious that Thrawn knows. God bless everyone.
@@commodorezero Nah Tharwn is not one to show mercy for nostalgia purposes. Thrawn would have shot Anakin in the face if (even after they became semi pals) if it would secure safety for the Chiss.
Seeing Thrawn genuinely concerned and intimidated is quite something but makes sense because he's smart he knew how completely unpredictable and dangerous vader was and now knows that is her master and now he knows she is and how much of a legit threat not only to his plans to his life because she is even more unpredictable then him and just as dangerous.
Why you people think thrawn is scared of ahsoka is beyond me, the man is careful and smart. He character was made up from a combination of all the greatest military minds in history. Sun Tzu for example, says to never doubt your enemy no matter how powerless then appear.
@@CommunistHydra That would be very interesting to see. Even though we know Thrawn can't win his attack on the New Republic would make for some great story material.
I really like Disney for making these shows and movies because it makes sense that remnants of the empire are still around. Luke only destroyed both death stars and Vader’s main ship. Still many left
I love Lars Mikkelsen's performance as Thrawn. His polite, soft-spoken, calm, composed but confident demeanour carries a great deal of charisma. I also love this scene and his writing here in general. There is great subtlety in his reaction to who Ahsoka's master was. He barely changes his tone, but you can still see how he's thinking "okay, this could be trouble". And then, thinking quick and smooth he shakes up his strategy.
So glad that they kept the voice actor from rebels. I thought that had been confirmed, and then I saw something else that led it to be questioned, so I got worried.
It was confirmed at Star Wars Celebration in April, where Lars Mikkelsen also came out on stage to roaring, standing applause. So yeah. Been very much confirmed since then. I was there. It was unbelievable. As a Dane myself like Lars, I cheered as loud as I could. We are very proud of him.
I like that small pause of shock/interest Thrawn has when he realizes who trained Ahsoka. He realized that his opponent is more dangerous than he anticipated.
I didn't realize how tall Lars Mikkelsen was until he shared a scene with Ray Stevenson. Ray Stevenson was one of the tallest and most physically imposing actors in Hollywood yet he's slightly shorter than Lars.
Yup, Thrawn knows better than to go after Ahsoka. Him and Anakin worked great together, even when Thrawn knew Vader was Anakin when they were on mission together looking for "Sky Walkers". He knows Ahsoka was well-trained and that Anakin was very thorough with Ahsoka.
Mostly, Thrawn doesn't want to risk taking on Ahsoka and Ezra directly. It'd be an unnecessary battle. He's been defeated by Ezra once before, and he knows how dangerous Ahsoka could be. That's why he's just buying time, hoping to win by simply stranding them. It's the most efficient and risk-averse strategy. He learned from his overconfidence at Lothal.
I love how he wasn't planning to help the mercenaries by sending troops but adjusted his strategy when he knew what they were facing and the time they would need to buy.
Thrawn projects such a cool, calculating and collected demeanour, even when under stress, is surprised or even intimidated. No lie I’d probably follow him
@ZackaryBiagi Ohhhh! That's a good thought!! I assumed it was because Jedi seem to often work in teams of 2, so he wanted to know where The Other One was, but if he was thinking of Luke, that makes even more sense!!!
I have never seen Thrawn with his mouth hanging open for so long in mild disbelief directly after he read the dataslate and asked "Her master was General Anakin Skywalker?"
I wonder if any part of thrawn would be happy when he learned of anakins brief return and that he killed the emperor. Thrawn knew Vader’s identity, but you could tell in the books he was sad that the Jedi he has befriended had been consumed by Vader. Thrawn is too smart to say it out loud, but I feel like part of him would be happy to learn his old friend really had been in there all along.
I hope there will be fan service in future episodes. Ahsoka: "You used the Marg Sable maneuver. I invented it." Thrawn: "Yes, your friend Padme told me."
Except, he and Anakin had never spoken about her during their encounter in the Clone Wars; and in the Galactic Empire, Thrawn chose to respect Vader's privacy, so he did not dig into Anakin's past.
I mean Anakin mention Ahsoka in Ascendancy, I think, when he is with Thrawn. . .well Actually Padme mention Her, but understanding that in that moment Thrawn Wasn't to good in Basic (lenguage in Star Wars), and it was only a casual phrase, I don't think he took that with very much importance
@@ManOfX305 well that solve the case, Thrawn didn't know Ahsoka, except for that mention, that Actually Anakin and Padme said in Basic. . .or at least that's my resolution
@@angelrivera2339 By playing it safe, setting up decoy targets, or even sacrificing real assets while being laser-focused on the main objective. Here, Thrawn's goal was to go back home, so he chose to strand Ahsoka & co. instead of trying his best to kill her. Morgan's job was to delay her, and if she killed Ahsoka, great. If she got killed Thrawn's mission would still be a success.
No he’s known, in the canon book he and skywalker team up during clone wars. Then when they’re teaming up as Imps he “teases” Vader by bringing Anakin up constantly and “accidentally” saying “we’ve been here before” he figures it out by his tactics and his reactions to the name Anakin Skywalker. Again, it’s already canon
I like that Thrawn took a moment to reflect on Anakin. I think that, in a sense, Thrawn was Anakin’s opposite. Had Thrawn been assigned to Vader, oh damn… the Rebel Alliance would’ve defeated.
Thrawn already knew of Ahsoka from canon book Alliances. Padme said, "Anakin's apprentice invented this tactic. It worked against the droids Ahsoka was fighting."
When Thrawn said “you’re certain there was only the one star ship” was he implying that Luke might have joined Ashoka in her quest? Considering this is right after he finds out that Anakin (Vader) was her master, who else would he be referring to other than his son who was pivotal in the fall of the Empire.
@@Taylor_Costa I’m inclined to believe that he’s not completely cut off from knowing the events that transpired in the base galaxy. When I heard him say “you’re certain there was only one star ship” my mind instantly went to the mandalorian finale where Luke shows up and Cara Dune says “Only one X-wing? Great.” Had similar vibes I guess. Would make sense for Thrawn to be terrified of Luke.
If Thrawn doesn't know about Luke yet, he will. I'm very interested to see how Thrawn handles that revelation, especially since he's the one holding all the cards, information-wise
@@ebzdawka5619 That's accurate. We do know that Thrawn was communicating from the other galaxy with the SW one. Morgan built the Eye to bring the Chimaera back and Pellaeon says to Moff Gideon that they need to keep their presence on the down low until Thrawn's return. Both suggest that Thrawn and his allies have a way of communicating with each other long distance. My headcanon is that the Chiss Ascendancy was in uproar and concerned over Thrawn's disappearance. Perhaps with Eli and Ar'alani's help, the Chiss were the ones to track his path, eventually establishing long-range communication with the lost ship. And they relayed that to Thrawn's allies in the Empire. Remember the Chiss still need the Empire to fight the War with the Grysk/Yuuzhan Vong, even though they don't fully trust them.
@@vetarlittorf1807Lol, lmao even - a "race" isn't the only thing that defines a people or a nation. The Jedi had their own history, forms of art, literature, norms, practices and founding documents spanning generations and were clearly a distinct culture in the galaxy. Their violent eradication was genocide.
"acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group" Race isnt the only thing@@vetarlittorf1807
If I'm remembering correctly, Thrawn doesn't show up in Rebels until Season 3. Given her (apparent) death at the end of Season 2, why would he research her?
Ahsoka was only in Season 2 and then vanished after her duel with Vader. Thrawn got introduced in Season 3 when Ahsoka was believed dead and not a part of the the Lothal-rebel-cell anymore. He never had to fight her.
Honestly SW has had some ups and downs but bringing Thrawn to the big screen was amazing, it’s safe to say that he is the Shockwave, of the series and the biggest tie breaker, tactical advantage of the Star Wars Universe
Thrawn's strategic decisions after learning this can be viewed through a somewhat comedic lens: he 200% does not want to deal with Skywalker Bullshit, be it inherent or learned. Just one problem though: he escaped from one enemy who practices Learned Skywalker Bullshit into the stomping grounds of not one but two with Inherent capacity for Skywalker Bullshit.
Considering the inquisitors success rate when it came to Ahsoka after she handed Thrawn the pad i expected him to say 'why does it just say "let vader handle it?"'
Thrawn’s cooperation with the Great Mothers reminds me of his Legends alliance with Joruus C’baoth. I wonder if, just like in Legends, this will end badly.
Disney has greenlit a new starwars movie called Heir to the Empire, the same name as the legends book series that introduced Thrawn and had him almost destroy the New Republic
It’ll probably be a lose-lose scenario. As the Ashoka show is setting up the movies to come out in a few years. Maybe thrawn survives but doesn’t make it back. Maybe he makes it back but with too little resources to wage a war, making him go on the run for a few more years. We probably have like 15 years until Kylo destroys the Luke’s temple
Since she never finished her training, it is possible there weren't many records of her being his apprentice, at least that he had access too. Thrawn is brilliant and diligent but he isn't omnipitent and many times in the stories he has appeared in, it is unknown variables that are his weakness.
Maybe it is just me but I wish Thrawn would project his voice a bit more or have the mic gain turned up on him. If it weren't for subtitles, I wouldn't know what he's saying half the time. On that note, I think he looks amazing and sounds amazing. I am happy every time he's on screen.
For me Thrawn had the same issue I had with the grand inquisitor(design wise), that his head is a wee bit too short. Maybe they should have used prosthetics to make his head a little bit taller, to be a bit similar to the animated rebels. But it’s such a small nitpick, I don’t need it to be changed
Thing is the Chiss are one of the many humanoid races in Star Wars that have only a few differences from humans being skin color, eyes and even sometimes facial muscles. So while the changes might help they’re not that necessary.
Thrawn wasn't apart of the Republic military during the Clone Wars, he only joined the Empire later on. He met Anakin during one of his missions though, at the time he was serving his people I remember right.
I love how they respect the jedi enough to address them by their GAR ranks. To a stormtrooper a jedi is a wizard, but a general that is a rank and title they respect and never would have though they would have given them the curtesy of regarding them as soldiers.
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The way Thrawn realizes that Anakin trained Ahsoka was really natural. It's a realization that forces him to switch gears and take careful planning against an enemy known for unpredictable but successful plans.
Hence the "we must control every variable to favor our outcome." In other words, "luck favors the prepared." And it showed later on in the episode.
It's also subtle how Thrawn immediately asks if there was only 1 starship. Whenever Vader arrives to settle something personal, he always comes by himself in his TIE interceptor, just like Ahsoka in this scene.
@@commanderbacara225 Vader during the final battle in the Kenobi series lol goes down to the planet alone
@@Riorozen No, it is bad writing.
@@Riorozenyeah thank god old Star Wars was written with no issues or plot conveniences it just now got silly
I think Thrawn was one of the few people in the Empire who knew Anakin was Vader
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You're correct
i believe it is a fact Thrawn knew this at least in "Legends" lore. Pretty sure it's established in "New Canon" he knows as well.
folks I think he's correct
This is correct
I like that you can tell that thrawn becomes instantly more cautious once he learns who is her master and starts to plan around that fact
He knows that anyone trained by Anakin _has_ to be taken seriously.
Because strategy is his superpower
But this cartoon version of Thrawn is a complete idiot. He gets defeated by everyone. Preparring for a ground assault meant ... NOTHING. They fired guns and none of the actually scored a hit. How about locking and barring the gates? Or mining the ground under the ship? How about launching more than 2 fighters? How about actually destroying the whales upon reemergence? How about the troopers actually firing on Ashoka and Sabine when their backs are turned? (happens like a hundred times). Basically, this show is a badly written, hurried season 5 of Rebels, with live action.
@@hibiscus779Boy, wait until you hear about the OG movies.
Beskar armor protects Sabine a lot. And trying to shoot at a Jedi is almost never useful unless you have truly insane levels of overwhelming firepower. The ship shooting would not work because the force protects Jedi quite a lot, specially since there is less of them. Its literal, in-universe plot armor. @@hibiscus779
"Ahsoka was trained by Anakin Skywalker"
Thrawn's thoughts: Oh, this is going to be irritating in *unpleasantly specific* ways.
He just knows any apprentice Anakin trained will be highly volatile emotionally and thus unpredictable. That man was having flashbacks of Clone Wars the moment he saw Anakin's name.
Not just volatile, but incredibly direct, bringing a mixture of power and a little cunning to bear. She's going to be direct, efficient, and if that fails, get creative in ways that are very unpredictable.
I love it when the villain/antagonist _realizes_ how much trouble the heroes are going to be!
Thrawn's other thoughts: And I thought Bridger was going to be trouble...
@@DoctorWhoKage To be fair, Bridger WAS trouble.
So many war crimes……
For those unfamiliar, the Thrawn: Alliances book delved into a mission where Thrawn and Anakin teamed up during the Clone Wars. The book also teased that Thrawn suspected Darth Vader and Anakin were one and the same - and there's a pretty great last minute reveal about Force-sensitive Chiss that confirm it.
I would not say he suspected it as he was literally trolling Vader with it.. like saying to him multiple times that "When we were the last time here" and Vader always corrected him that he was never there before
At the end of "Aliances" Thrawn says to Vader "I know"!
I would've loved to see that animated.
Thrawn is that nice middle ground of "how much is legends lore?" and "how much is Disney lore?" Unlike many, I find this game amusing rather than insulting. More so I get to giggle at those who don't know the difference. ie we don't get Mara Jade, and Luke dies mostly a virgin hermit, but this is a nice consolation prize. Cause tentacled Giant Space Whale doom is always better than looking at your former body guard and dying with "At least he did it artistically...." As Zahn turned Rhuk into what the Wookies (and Ewoks) should have been but still somehow failed to make them a lasting impression.
Side note it was Lucas who HATED..... Thrawn, as anti-hero's are lost on the minds of children...... Unless your name is Vader.
Anakin: "Your existence is a threat to my legitimacy!"
Thrawn: "That sounds like a "you" problem... I'm trying to save the Galaxy.... Not failing my pseudo-mom, nor pseudo-wife, at almost the same time."
Bro that’s not a last reveal force sensitive whatever you just said Thrawns playing 5D chess why everyone’s playing 1D he’s one of the most intimidating and intelligent imperial officers to ever live
"The Jedi are very good at hiding; they've been practicing it for years."
Savage🤣
It wasn't an insult, the Sith hid for centuries and they rose to power.
actually, it was being cautious. Thus, as he mentioned. There is no need to waste our resources. So sending in TIE fighters would be useless, might as well use the force of the great mothers to locate Ahsoka's location will be more cost-efficient and She'd be dancing on Thrawn's hand.
Thrawn does in fact know Anakin because he had history with him in the Clone Wars
Unless they recon that.🙄
He also knew he was Vader. They did a mission together.
@@freeamericanthinker558Well he seemed to have known what he was going up against when he found out Ahsoka was indeed Anakin’s Apprentice, so probably not.
so thrawn was a good guy during the clone wars at one point?
he was neutral
He realized Ahsoka is no ordinary Jedi as soon as he realized who her Master was. Everything she learned about the Force, Combat, Strategic thinking, etc. was from Anakin/Vader’s teachings which made her almost as dangerous as Vader.
but not dangerous enough to beat Baylan 😆
It’s been how long since her apprenticeship? 20? 30 years? I doubt everything she know is From anikin😂
@@juicemann6902in all fairness due to his age and disillusion with the Jedi order, he’s basically the dooku of his time. Plus he’s physically much larger than Ashoka which gives him an edge in physical combat like saber training. While her master was better than him, he has many more years experience.
@@juicemann6902Ahsoka would have defeated Baylan if she had the time.
Thrawn knows jedi mc plot armour.
I LOVED Thrawn: Alliances because of the "Bros to enemies to bros" relationship between Thrawn and Anakin/Vader. They have very snarky dialogues, as Thrawn brings Anakin up again and again and Vader completely denies it. This is one close to the end, where the tone is more nostalgic:
“For a long moment, they stood together in silence. Vader thought about his secret... about Thrawn's loyalty... about the Emperor's continued need for him. Perhaps the entire Empire's need for him... "Anakin Skywalker is dead," he said.
Thrawn lowered his head. "I know."
Vader nodded slowly. *I know.* Not *So I have heard.* Not *So I was informed.* But *I know.* "We will not speak of him again," he said. "*You* will not speak of him again."
"I understand, my lord," Thrawn said. "But I will always honor his legacy.”
The "I know" got me when I read it... Timothy Zahn man😮💨😮💨
Wonder if that means he would hesitate killing Luke.
@@commodorezero Probably not. Sure, he had a lot of respect for Anakin, and maybe a certain degree of comrade-ship if not friendship, but Thrawn is ultimately working to protect his people, and if Luke got in the way of that, I don't think he'd hesitate
Thank you for the info. Weird that Vader would not reveal that to Thrawn even though based on the dialogue it would appear obvious that Thrawn knows.
God bless everyone.
@@commodorezero Nah Tharwn is not one to show mercy for nostalgia purposes. Thrawn would have shot Anakin in the face if (even after they became semi pals) if it would secure safety for the Chiss.
Seeing Thrawn genuinely concerned and intimidated is quite something but makes sense because he's smart he knew how completely unpredictable and dangerous vader was and now knows that is her master and now he knows she is and how much of a legit threat not only to his plans to his life because she is even more unpredictable then him and just as dangerous.
I think his biggest fear is Ahsoka’s plot armour
@@JeffBillionaireBezos Yeah that too lol
@@Artorion he wasnt a big enough threat for baylan lol baylan destroyed her bruh
Why you people think thrawn is scared of ahsoka is beyond me, the man is careful and smart.
He character was made up from a combination of all the greatest military minds in history.
Sun Tzu for example, says to never doubt your enemy no matter how powerless then appear.
@@zachdillenger5468I don't think he's scared, moreso more careful due to her unpredictability by association with Anakin
I love how calmly Thrawn calls for Captain Enoch. And instantly and without hesitation Enoch appears. Thrawn deserves such loyalty. I want him to win.
I hope he is able to wage a war with the republic like he did in the novels.
@@CommunistHydra That would be very interesting to see. Even though we know Thrawn can't win his attack on the New Republic would make for some great story material.
I really like Disney for making these shows and movies because it makes sense that remnants of the empire are still around. Luke only destroyed both death stars and Vader’s main ship. Still many left
Seeing as there was a distinct lack of thrawn in the sequel trilogy, its safe to say he was defeated
@@RaKalamando Pretty sure the Vong would fix a lot of that..... And since Disney is willing to tease us with Abeloth, I feel this is still coming.
I love Lars Mikkelsen's performance as Thrawn. His polite, soft-spoken, calm, composed but confident demeanour carries a great deal of charisma.
I also love this scene and his writing here in general. There is great subtlety in his reaction to who Ahsoka's master was. He barely changes his tone, but you can still see how he's thinking "okay, this could be trouble". And then, thinking quick and smooth he shakes up his strategy.
And sinister
So glad that they kept the voice actor from rebels. I thought that had been confirmed, and then I saw something else that led it to be questioned, so I got worried.
Hey 20 years eating "Imperial Donuts" does a number on the waist line.@@Theosake
@@Theosakeagreed
@@Theosakenot many people look like aliens
@@TheosakeYou’re wrong
It was confirmed at Star Wars Celebration in April, where Lars Mikkelsen also came out on stage to roaring, standing applause. So yeah. Been very much confirmed since then. I was there. It was unbelievable. As a Dane myself like Lars, I cheered as loud as I could. We are very proud of him.
I like that small pause of shock/interest Thrawn has when he realizes who trained Ahsoka. He realized that his opponent is more dangerous than he anticipated.
I like that they have used the actor that voiced Thrwan during Rebels... That accent and way of talking made the character unique
I didn't realize how tall Lars Mikkelsen was until he shared a scene with Ray Stevenson. Ray Stevenson was one of the tallest and most physically imposing actors in Hollywood yet he's slightly shorter than Lars.
"Sweet and terrible, like a madman's lullaby."
The only problem is that Thrawn was physically advanced, i can't accept him being so fat for no reason 😂
@@ahrimanahrimanovich2302 you saw him at this prime in rebels... as per my understandings in the wormhole several years have passed
@johnnatandc Thrawn is not that type of guy, who would let himself down. His physical form and abilities are very important for him.
Yup, Thrawn knows better than to go after Ahsoka. Him and Anakin worked great together, even when Thrawn knew Vader was Anakin when they were on mission together looking for "Sky Walkers". He knows Ahsoka was well-trained and that Anakin was very thorough with Ahsoka.
It's more thrawn knows it's pointless to chase her, he has to leave waste time and forces on Ahsoka is pointless to his objective
Mostly, Thrawn doesn't want to risk taking on Ahsoka and Ezra directly. It'd be an unnecessary battle. He's been defeated by Ezra once before, and he knows how dangerous Ahsoka could be.
That's why he's just buying time, hoping to win by simply stranding them. It's the most efficient and risk-averse strategy. He learned from his overconfidence at Lothal.
@@Cailus3542 he got beat by space whales not Ezra, that said he knows there is no reason to take the risk so he just wanted to delay them
@@zachdillenger5468 Ezra is the one that communicated with the purgill to do so through the force
@@dacubanmofo and it's still the whales who did the work
I love the subtle of Thrawn saying “you’re certain there was only the one star ship” knowing that Vader always travel alone.
he was wondering if his son is also there
If we're going off of Rebels timeline, then Thrawn/Ezra disappeared before Scarif even happened. So technically, Thrawn doesn't know about Luke.
@@ajdominguez1002 he knew abt the fall of the empire because of the great mothers. they probably told him abt the person responsible for it
I love how he wasn't planning to help the mercenaries by sending troops but adjusted his strategy when he knew what they were facing and the time they would need to buy.
So glad there confirming Thrawn Alliance, I can’t wait to see him and Ahsoka discuss Anakin/Vader.
They’re*
I appreciate how Thrawn refers to characters by their military titles. General Anakin Skywalker, General Balan Skoll.
"Her master was General Anakin Skywalker? Ready all the sand we have available and I mean ALL the sand we have available"
Thrawn projects such a cool, calculating and collected demeanour, even when under stress, is surprised or even intimidated. No lie I’d probably follow him
Thrawn looks like Data infiltrating the Smurfs Village.
😂😂
hahahha omg really
You've managed to combine 3 separate universes together. Pappa Smurf would be proud...and possibly a Dark Jedi.
Are you talk about my dream home village where I was raised to be hero
Not the best choice of actors for Thrawn to be sure. Thawn should have a deeper, more powerful voice. Plus he doesn't have a beer gut.
Imagine his reaction when he realizes Anakin had a son: 😶
And a daughter
😳🤯
I think he's aware of Luke's existence, and he may be who Thrawn was referring to when he was asking if there was only 1 ship.
@ZackaryBiagi Ohhhh! That's a good thought!!
I assumed it was because Jedi seem to often work in teams of 2, so he wanted to know where The Other One was, but if he was thinking of Luke, that makes even more sense!!!
Great. No strategic plan ever developed has had to take into account TWO Skywalkers - simultaneously!!
Thrawn was one of the few people in the Empire who had known Skywalker before and after he became Vader.
Correct.
Baylan too
@@Us3r739Baylan is not from the Empire
@@angerami77 aw man. You’re correct. Do you want a pat on the head and some cookies?
I have never seen Thrawn with his mouth hanging open for so long in mild disbelief directly after he read the dataslate and asked "Her master was General Anakin Skywalker?"
Thrawn: “Wait, Ahsoka is the same girl who invented my beloved Marg Sable manoeuvre?!?!”
I absolutely love that you can't see the last 20 seconds of this clip because of the awesome and completely necessary recommended video pop-ups
The man really respected Anakin. He had to take a step back and change strategy right away lol.
I wonder if any part of thrawn would be happy when he learned of anakins brief return and that he killed the emperor. Thrawn knew Vader’s identity, but you could tell in the books he was sad that the Jedi he has befriended had been consumed by Vader. Thrawn is too smart to say it out loud, but I feel like part of him would be happy to learn his old friend really had been in there all along.
Man I hope thrawn wins a lot in this series to prove his might and intelligence. He was pretty much unstoppable in legends.
Thrawn finding out Ashoka was Anakin's student.
Was like the dude finding out they just killed John wicks Dog.
"Oh."
Thrawn was defo aware who Anakin is. Who he was. And who he became.
I hope there will be fan service in future episodes.
Ahsoka: "You used the Marg Sable maneuver. I invented it."
Thrawn: "Yes, your friend Padme told me."
That will be an interesting exchange. Also if Thrawn crosses paths with R2 and recognizes him.
Or if R2 recognizes Thrawn!
Something tells me he’s going to do something psychological to Ahsoka now that he knows this information.
Not possible Ahsoka mommy is impenetrable after her hallucinations
@@Phasma6969 she’s “hallucinated”Anakin before. I wonder if the night sisters could create a new hallucination.
Remember, the show is named after her. Thrawn knows he can’t get passed her plot armour so he can only run until the inevitable happens
@@JeffBillionaireBezosI dunno. If there is ANY person in the galaxy who knows plot armor is a variable in strategy, its Thrawn.
@@ajdominguez1002 you might be on to something, maybe thrawn reaches out to Filoni in the final episode? 🧐
Whether he was Vader or Anakin, both names commanded respect and fear from allies/enemies alike.
“General Anakin Skywalker”
Game recognize game
Great episode but you would think thrawn would have known about Ashoka being anakins apprentice earlier on
Except, he and Anakin had never spoken about her during their encounter in the Clone Wars; and in the Galactic Empire, Thrawn chose to respect Vader's privacy, so he did not dig into Anakin's past.
He didn't like to pry
I mean Anakin mention Ahsoka in Ascendancy, I think, when he is with Thrawn. . .well Actually Padme mention Her, but understanding that in that moment Thrawn Wasn't to good in Basic (lenguage in Star Wars), and it was only a casual phrase, I don't think he took that with very much importance
@@guzm9120 Thrawn had actually not known basic at all, at that point.
@@ManOfX305 well that solve the case, Thrawn didn't know Ahsoka, except for that mention, that Actually Anakin and Padme said in Basic. . .or at least that's my resolution
-Her master was general Anakin Skywalker?
-Yes
-Oh
Is it just me or do I detect a small hint of fear in thrawn when he finds out Anakin was ashoka's master
Felt the same. You can see it in his eyes.
I'm not sure if I'd call it "fear" or "trepidation", but it was 100% theee!
I’ve waited for this scene! His reaction was worth it!
Thrawn realizing his advisory was his old colleague's apprentice
Thrawn knows that Anakin was a force to be reckoned with, he knows Skywalker would have beaten him, and knows Tano would do the same.
Skywalker would have had a serious chance of beating him if he didn't plan around his unpredictability
@@MCSPARTAN501 How do you plan on what you can't predict?
@@angelrivera2339 By playing it safe, setting up decoy targets, or even sacrificing real assets while being laser-focused on the main objective. Here, Thrawn's goal was to go back home, so he chose to strand Ahsoka & co. instead of trying his best to kill her. Morgan's job was to delay her, and if she killed Ahsoka, great. If she got killed Thrawn's mission would still be a success.
It feels so good to hear thrawns voice again after so long
Now, thrawn realize that Anakin is Darth Vader all along.
No he’s known, in the canon book he and skywalker team up during clone wars. Then when they’re teaming up as Imps he “teases” Vader by bringing Anakin up constantly and “accidentally” saying “we’ve been here before” he figures it out by his tactics and his reactions to the name Anakin Skywalker. Again, it’s already canon
Absolutely love his reaction and ability to quickly adjust his strategy
Such good acting, cautious, patience, tactical al in a couple of frames.
I like that Thrawn took a moment to reflect on Anakin. I think that, in a sense, Thrawn was Anakin’s opposite. Had Thrawn been assigned to Vader, oh damn… the Rebel Alliance would’ve defeated.
Actually... I highly recommend the book "Thrawn: Alliances" by Timothy Zahn
If you’ve read the canon thrawn books, those two have indeed met.
Who to be more afraid of... the half trained son of anakin skywalker, or the fully trained apprentice to skywalker?
half trained? his training is complete
"Jedi are very good at hiding, they've been practicing it for years."
-Obi- -Wan- Ben Kenobi: visual happiness.
Thrawn's voice is exactly how I pictured it in my head.
Played by the same Actor who did the voice in Star wars Rebels.
Thrawn already knew of Ahsoka from canon book Alliances.
Padme said, "Anakin's apprentice invented this tactic. It worked against the droids Ahsoka was fighting."
Which means he already has an insight as to how she fights, because he's used that maneuver several times
For those who don't know, Thrawn actually knows Anakin quite well because Anakin used to be Thrawn's paper boy just before the clone wars started.
thrawn was on tatooine?
@@reptile1687probably when Anakin was still training to be a Jedi most likely
@@lindlekindle wasnt he on his home planet until the empire recruited him
Thrawn knew that anakin became vader, so it explains why he wanted to be careful about this.
Now here's Filoni's chance to properly integrate the Thrawn novels.
Grand Admiral Thrawn is beyond amazing, a true and great military leader
Thrawn and captain enoch could be a LETHAL villainous duo for a movie
When Thrawn said “you’re certain there was only the one star ship” was he implying that Luke might have joined Ashoka in her quest? Considering this is right after he finds out that Anakin (Vader) was her master, who else would he be referring to other than his son who was pivotal in the fall of the Empire.
He referring to the rebel forces, he's gone of the Galaxy before Luke starts training with obiwan
@@Taylor_Costa I’m inclined to believe that he’s not completely cut off from knowing the events that transpired in the base galaxy. When I heard him say “you’re certain there was only one star ship” my mind instantly went to the mandalorian finale where Luke shows up and Cara Dune says “Only one X-wing? Great.” Had similar vibes I guess. Would make sense for Thrawn to be terrified of Luke.
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I mean, I would also be scared of the guy who's father was Darth Vader (specially since Thrawn knows who Vader truly was)
If Thrawn doesn't know about Luke yet, he will. I'm very interested to see how Thrawn handles that revelation, especially since he's the one holding all the cards, information-wise
@@ebzdawka5619 That's accurate. We do know that Thrawn was communicating from the other galaxy with the SW one. Morgan built the Eye to bring the Chimaera back and Pellaeon says to Moff Gideon that they need to keep their presence on the down low until Thrawn's return. Both suggest that Thrawn and his allies have a way of communicating with each other long distance. My headcanon is that the Chiss Ascendancy was in uproar and concerned over Thrawn's disappearance. Perhaps with Eli and Ar'alani's help, the Chiss were the ones to track his path, eventually establishing long-range communication with the lost ship. And they relayed that to Thrawn's allies in the Empire. Remember the Chiss still need the Empire to fight the War with the Grysk/Yuuzhan Vong, even though they don't fully trust them.
Thrawn is calmly pooping his pants once he hears Ahsoka was trained by Anakin
"Youre certain only one starship" = omfg luke didnt roll up did he?
"Jedi are very good at hiding. They've been practicing that for years."
Did he just make a genocide joke?
The Jedi aren't a race. So Order 66 was not genocide.
@@vetarlittorf1807Lol, lmao even - a "race" isn't the only thing that defines a people or a nation. The Jedi had their own history, forms of art, literature, norms, practices and founding documents spanning generations and were clearly a distinct culture in the galaxy. Their violent eradication was genocide.
"acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group"
Race isnt the only thing@@vetarlittorf1807
The way his soul departed his body for a brief moment when he says General Anakin Skywalker 😂😂😂
The look on his face is like "This may be difficult.... Skywalker had unorthodox approaches."
I feel like he would already have researched this in Rebels.
If I'm remembering correctly, Thrawn doesn't show up in Rebels until Season 3. Given her (apparent) death at the end of Season 2, why would he research her?
Ahsoka was only in Season 2 and then vanished after her duel with Vader. Thrawn got introduced in Season 3 when Ahsoka was believed dead and not a part of the the Lothal-rebel-cell anymore. He never had to fight her.
Yes that makes sense. It's been a while since I watched it.
Honestly SW has had some ups and downs but bringing Thrawn to the big screen was amazing, it’s safe to say that he is the Shockwave, of the series and the biggest tie breaker, tactical advantage of the Star Wars Universe
Thrawn's strategic decisions after learning this can be viewed through a somewhat comedic lens: he 200% does not want to deal with Skywalker Bullshit, be it inherent or learned. Just one problem though: he escaped from one enemy who practices Learned Skywalker Bullshit into the stomping grounds of not one but two with Inherent capacity for Skywalker Bullshit.
"Wait till you hear about his son."
Thrawn: his *w h a t*
Don't forget his daughter
Such a perfect voice for thrawn
It's not like its the same actor as Rebels.
The last trilogy of star wars should have been centered on this admiral
glad they kept his voice style the same as Thrawn in the audio-comics, even though its fanmade. Suits him.
In his mind he was like "Oh kriff, we are so dead"
I'm glad Lars Mikkelsen personally play Thrawn in live-action.
Considering the inquisitors success rate when it came to Ahsoka after she handed Thrawn the pad i expected him to say 'why does it just say "let vader handle it?"'
😂 I mean...it might!
“Oh no, she has Plot armor, we must tread more carefully.”
Thrawn is going to use the knowledge of who trained Ahsoka to get inside her head and try to break her.
I’m not a fan of modern Star Wars, but this actor nails him perfectly
Well he's reprising the role from SW:Rebels. There is no actor who understands the character better.
Thrawn has been the best villain in the Disney era so far.
Thrawn saying something related to Eobard Thawne 😂
Eobard Thrawn
Thrawn was just as smart and tactical as he was in the Rebels series
Thrawn’s cooperation with the Great Mothers reminds me of his Legends alliance with Joruus C’baoth. I wonder if, just like in Legends, this will end badly.
It's incredible that Anakin and Darth Vader are still remembered to this day. Yet separate from each other
Is it me, or does Thrawn look like a mix between Elon Musk and Kevin Spacey?
They should've casted Henry Cavill and dubbed over him
My guy, thrawn's character is like 70. Let him be old 🤣 (now if it was ascendancy thrawn, that's a different story 😗)
Elon Musk, Data from Star Trek and a Na'vi from Avatar, lol
@@Jonathan-om1wqno thanks, we don't need fail supeermans here.
Henry Cavill lacks the charisma needed for thrawn. I think Larrs is excellent.@@Jonathan-om1wq
Oh my god I was in love with his voice
I love this new hologram effect!
I hope Thrawn wins. We need a villain to win.
Chances are its fairly unlikely especially with disney
Disney has greenlit a new starwars movie called Heir to the Empire, the same name as the legends book series that introduced Thrawn and had him almost destroy the New Republic
@@davidtveten4215 oh no…they’re going to rewrite and destroy another book.
@@Emma_2BanksThe EU has been scrapped for many years now.
It’ll probably be a lose-lose scenario. As the Ashoka show is setting up the movies to come out in a few years. Maybe thrawn survives but doesn’t make it back. Maybe he makes it back but with too little resources to wage a war, making him go on the run for a few more years. We probably have like 15 years until Kylo destroys the Luke’s temple
Problem wirh this scene: thrawn should already know this from the research he did on awaking when he joined the empire.
Since she never finished her training, it is possible there weren't many records of her being his apprentice, at least that he had access too. Thrawn is brilliant and diligent but he isn't omnipitent and many times in the stories he has appeared in, it is unknown variables that are his weakness.
anakin litteraly tell to thrawn he was the master of ashoka@@brynphillips9957
Why? Ahsoka wasn't a true threat to Thrawn because she "died" on Malachor
@xfirefox_x he served with her master and when he than joined the empire he informed himself about her master.
@@emilsinclair4190 As I said, Ahsoka wasn't a direct threat to Thrawn at all. She kept a very low profile as fulcrum.
One of the best "Ah Sh!t" moments in Disney history.
I LOVE the actor's portrayal of Thrawn. He had the exact Cadence that matches the calm calculated mind of his
Maybe it is just me but I wish Thrawn would project his voice a bit more or have the mic gain turned up on him. If it weren't for subtitles, I wouldn't know what he's saying half the time. On that note, I think he looks amazing and sounds amazing. I am happy every time he's on screen.
0:49 classic Thrawn
Bro I swear he looks like Elon
I bet 10 000 Imperial Credits that when Thrawn learned who Ashoka's master was he thought "I've got a bed feeling about this"
He already knew that... This is not the Thrawn we know from the books... Now is a generic villain.
He already knew that in the show too, he just wanted more info post exile and he was kinda talking for the sake of talking.
For me Thrawn had the same issue I had with the grand inquisitor(design wise), that his head is a wee bit too short. Maybe they should have used prosthetics to make his head a little bit taller, to be a bit similar to the animated rebels. But it’s such a small nitpick, I don’t need it to be changed
Thing is the Chiss are one of the many humanoid races in Star Wars that have only a few differences from humans being skin color, eyes and even sometimes facial muscles. So while the changes might help they’re not that necessary.
It's almost as if the features of cartoon characters are exaggerated on purpose.
@@BalkanGames Imagine Count Dooku's animated head translated 1 to 1 to live action.
@@absboodoo He would definetly not look like Christopher Lee.
@@absboodoo I think it’s harder to translate from animation to live action than live action to animation
When dealing with a Skywalker, expect the unexpected... and plan accordingly.
Thrawn: Well...normal plans have now officially gone out the window.
How did Baylan know about Ahsoka from the Republic era from knowing Anakin, but not Thrawn who saw through the rise of the Empire and Vader?
Baylan was a fellow Jedi General. Thrawn knew Anakin was Vader but I don’t believe ever out the pieces about Ahsoka being his apprentice together
Thrawn wasn't apart of the Republic military during the Clone Wars, he only joined the Empire later on. He met Anakin during one of his missions though, at the time he was serving his people I remember right.
As someone who doesnt like this show, i like grand admiral thrawn
I like Ashoka, but she feels like a side character in this show. Is it “Sabine” or “Ashoka”, Disney?
I love how they respect the jedi enough to address them by their GAR ranks. To a stormtrooper a jedi is a wizard, but a general that is a rank and title they respect and never would have though they would have given them the curtesy of regarding them as soldiers.