Sigma 60-600 MIRRORLESS Lens REVIEW vs Sigma 150-600 | BEST Wildlife / Sports lens for $2,000?
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I took the NEW Sigma 60-600mm DG DN Sport Lens out into the Real World to give it a Review. The big question is do you go with this lens, the Sigma 150-600, the Tamron 150-600, or even the Sony 200-600 G??? These are the best Lens choices for Sports and Wildlife Photographers looking to spend less then $2,000.
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Which lens would you go with and why?
I dunno. If the 150-600mm had the new AF motor system, then I would definitely go for that.
I like and don’t like the 10x range of the 60-600mm. It seemed like you did not really need the big lens for the mummers.
Most of your mummers shots were well under 200mm. Most of you shots at the zoo were over 400mm.
With the Sigma
For the same price, the sony 200-600mm with internal zoom
Yea the Sony 200-600 will be better but man that sigma is sharp
Planes are my thing. 60-600 is the difference between swapping cameras or not as your subject lands and taxis past you.
Have to say I much prefer your real world reviews to those who shoot banknotes and cotton reels. Also, I note that many reviewers forget about atmospheric conditions - shooting boats on a hot sunny day with a super telephoto lens ain't always going to end well :)
The reason the Sigma lens can't do 30 frames per sec is that Sony put this limit on 3rd party lenses. It's a software issue not a hardware issue.
wow
I've been waiting for you to drop this video
Worst Mummers strut ever!! 😂😂 I saw you during the live stream of the parade.. I was waiting to see your photos. Good Stuff!
I'm using a tamron 150-600mm G2, which I found for 424 dollars. Mislabeled as a first gen.
So I'm only watching because I enjoy Jared's real world reviews.
And it was a nice surprise to hear Jared sing the twist by chubby checker lol. I never hear anyone ever reference it. Love that song
i love your use of the word horizontical at 5:46 😂
I've a Lumix S1 and it's an amazing L-Mount Camera FOR ME! x.
First off: great review! I use the 200-600 G often in the zoo, and find myself shooting mostly in between that range. But I do get surprised sometimes by closer animals that I cannot focus on, pinguïns popping up, these are potentially great photo’s with a lot of expression, that I will have to miss. Until I would use this lens. So there you go, it’s definitely lens for the zoo that you don’t have to switch during your visit.
This will be a nice zoom lens option to have for Lumix users, especially with the new S5ii coming out.
I have owned the 150-600 C EF lens for a couple of years now and love it!
The 60-600 would be a great lens to have on safari. When I first started photography I went with the A7 + 28-70mm kit lens on safari and took some great shots at 70mm where you can see the animals with an amazing background. That kit lens is horrible though, but I still got great shots. With the 60-600 it will allow someone to take amazing shots at all focal ranges. Nowadays I have the 150-500 Tamron which I can supplement with the Sigma 24-70 art and Sony 135mm 1.8 so I wouldn't buy it if you already have some great lenses in that focal range.
In the shooting that I do, the 60-600 would work well for shooting sports (football and soccer, especially) because they can go from way the hell down the field to right in front of you pretty quickly. But with the variable aperture, it would be best for daytime games. It would be trickier for night games.
A lot of people use this for aviation as well, with the 60mm working good for static displays at airshows, wide angle scenery shots, formation flight shots etc. I personally went for the 150-600 for the weight and saying I could just use a second lens for wide angles
Exactly. Airshows are Extras and B-52s in the same space. I was at the park and view west at RIAT last year and using two cameras. Apart from when a C-17 and A400M were on the taxiway, I could have got away with one camera/one lens with a 60-600.
@@mrrcassidy how did it perform for you at RIAT? looking at grabbing one to replace a 150-600c
@@hwhitham04 Haven't bought it yet :) I was using two Olympus cameras last year, one with a 12-100 the other with a 100-400. I now have a Lumix S1R/S5 - I'm minded to get the 150-600 - it's less money and I have a 24-70 and 135 lens now. I guess I'm going to park and view with two (rather larger) cameras again this year. Focusing will be slower than PDAF - but these are planes rather than birds so I think it will be fine.
Did you ever do a video on the L mount alliance- I seem to understand the joke now, but the background is from before I started following your channel 😁👍
It's not 'the first 10x zoom for mirrorless' (SONY has the 24-240mm), but it definitely is the only one that goes from a normal 60mm to a super-telephoto 600mm.
I had the 200-600 but sold it as I only used it like 3x a year but having the internal zoom I’d prefer the Sony over the Sigma. Only reason why I’d go Sigma is for planespotting. Depending on the location the extra reach on the wide angle can be the difference between a filled frame or front and rear being out of frame (or the need for a second body with 70-200/switching lenses)
Let's only hope for a z mount version soon...Great review by the way thanks!!!
I use the f-mount Sigma 60-600mm to shoot my daughter’s soccer games with the Z9 and FTZ2. I like the zoom range. Never have to switch lenses or bodies while shooting.
@@imjooboy I know right, its very practical with perfect sharpness at the same time...But I would like to go native to make use of all z mounts capabilities
This is the reason Canon's lens selection lags Sony. They not only have to compete against sony, but they also have to compete against Sigma and Tamron who may not kill it alone, but provide something that competes or is better than Canon at almost every level. The only things they don't have are a 85 1.2 and a 28-70 f2. But Sigma's 85 f1.4 is so ridiculously sharp, I don't really have any envy of the 85 f1.2.
The RF 85mm f1.2 is actually still sharper than the F1.4 and has the advantage to have 33% beighter aperture. It's a special lens that really shook up the status quo. I agree though that canon have to open up to sigma and tamron, they cannot dream to compete with the competition with such a closed and limited lens selection.
@@ralphsaad8637 you know what he’s saying. 🙄
Sony has a huge lead in lenses and it’s canons fault
I want an 85 1.2 for Sony….I want a 35 1.2 GM and a 200 2.0 too!
The Sigma 105 f1.4 is yet another gem♥️
Dunno why there's constant comment on Canon RF in a E/L mount lens video. Yes Canon has limited RF lenses, but when comes to telephotos, RF is alright. There is the underrated RF100-400, RF600&800 f11. They are incredible in handheld.
Mid range there is Sigma 150-600mm that's lighter than E/L mount version. Plus all the EF adapt options
And in high end there's RF100-500L and the Big L whites(400/600/800/1200).
Okay the image of the Police bikes lined up is cool 👍😎
18:00 i can think of an application for the 60mm side of the lens. if you are doing wildlife photography and you need to include as many animals in a photo, the kind of animals that move together in large numbers, e.g if the story is about wildlife migration.
I stick to Sigma's 100-400. Much lighter, much smaller, much cheaper, and absolutely good enough for me.
Damnit Jared! Why am I watching this. It has no relevancy to my work. But your so engaging.
For the money, the Nikon 200-500 VR with any teleconverter will give a spread up 400-1000mm. Of course losing a couple of f/stops won't help in low light but since I am shooting outdoors what does it matter? I tried this on my Z9 with FTZII adaptor and was actually pleasantly surprised at how clear the photos were on 1000mm zoom. - PS Jared thanks for this video! I love your consistency in videos and format. I look forward to all of them. - Jim
I have the DSL version of this lens, totally love it! I would go with the same exact lens only for the Z9 that I currently own.
have you used the Fmount version on the Z9?
I use the 150-600 every day shooting aviation. Love that heavy a** lens. Every once in a while I wish I had a tad bit wider shot available but I feel the 150-600 keeps me within a box that makes me get creative and gives me my style. My wrist definitly hurts after a day of shooting.
Hey I see that you commented over a year ago!! ❤ How's your experience been with this lens? Any dust or moisture crept in??
@@cancanman still super happy with it. It’s has a learning curve. Haven’t had any issues. The S is a heavy sucker. I have a friends with the C and they enjoy it. I shoot high speed stuff so I wanted the S. It does the job. Don’t expect to use it for much video.
@@keithmiller2714 thank you ♥️
I love my Sigma 60-600 sport. I also encourage all my friends to get the presets. Skittles is my go to 80% of the time.
Hi Jared. Thanks for the video.
What camera backpack can you recommend for a larger setup like S5 II or EOS R6 with 60-600mm + second body + 24-70mm and maybe 50mm lenses?
On top batteries, filters and a dji mini 3 drone would be awesome.
Hi! I recently got a wandrd prvke backpack and I’ve been completely in love with it since. Very good quality, great back support, modern looks and you can choose between different sizes of backpacks and camera compartments. Even the smallest one holds a dji mini, a camera and 3 lenses no problem.
@@rejkk Thank you. Will try the 31 and 41 Liter and maybe also a fernweh! Enjoy the bag and shooting content! 👍
Not a backpack, try a golf buggy / cart
Seems weird not to has the STL lock switch on the 60-600 like they have on the 150-600, like having the option for a hard, smooth or locked zoom, a simple lock is fine but seems odd to drop that feature.
I am deciding whether to use this lens instead of the Sony 100-400mm G Master
First 10x zoom for mirrorless?
May I introduce you to the 24-240 RF?
the Fro reviewing super teles is a funny thing.
Jared yes we know the famous Mummers down her in Baltimore they use to be part of our big Thanksgiving Day Parade I have some nice pictures taken on 35mm slide film.
Have a Z9 and am tired of waiting on Nikon's 200-600mm, so decided to go with the Megadap2 adapter and the Sony 200-600mm telephoto.
I love watching your videos of products I'll never be able to afford :+)
Not sure why you hate on Panasonic, it's weird to me that you would have bias towards one or more brands and not another. They finally updated their auto-focus system and are making the right moves. This should be exciting, more competition stops the market stagnating and encourages innovation. Anyways good review of the lens as always.
If they had the RF mount I'd for sure get the 150-600mm. I would love to have a decent sport/wildlife lens, while being able to save some of that money to get some better glass for the wider ones (or get a 35 mm prime). As it stands, I guess I can be sad and wait or consider the adapting the older version with RF/EF ring :/
I have the Sigma 150-600 adapted with the drop in filters adapter. Works absolutely amazing on the RF system adapted. Drop in filters are a game changer for a lens this big too.
@@pixel_overkill Oh I bet that would be so huge! Though I have heard that some people have issues with the focus being wobbly with the 150-600C. Is this something you have noticed at all and are you using the sport version? :D
I was considering the EF version of this, but chose to go with the 150-600 contemporary. I usually find when shooting wide, I go for my 17-50 F2.8 or the nifty fifty. Plus I already have a Sigma 18-300 F3.5-5.6 that does a decent job too.
But now having the 150-600, it would be nice to not have to switch lenses to go wide.
Dustin Abbott directly compared the Sigma 150-600mm to this lens and the new lens is significantly sharper.
@@cooloox Dustin Abbott did not say that the new lens was significantly sharper. He said it's, and I quote: 'sharper, faster to focus, and has better optical stabilization'
wow thanks a lot !!
This is an intriguing lens compared to the Sony 200-600. It's like getting the Sony plus a free 60-200. An interesting idea, but it just seems like such a strange and niche lens. Good on Sigma for their eye-popping new tech, though...the future looks bright!
No, actually, thank you for reviewing this! You have the biggest influence when I was choosing my camera. I just wish I listened to you and all of them, but I ended with a Leica. So, now, I can only afford a Leica 24-70. I tried the Panasonic 70-200 f2.8 but it drains my SL2-s’ battery rapidly! So, I had to return it and bought a new laptop and enrolled in a photography class. Now, I discovered Sigma, which is basically the Leica Japanese lenses rehoused and I’m willing to stop snubbing other glass. I want a telephoto lens. I’m thinking of getting this.
As a hobbyist wildlife photographer with a Canon R7 with the 70-200 f4, I envy Sony having third-party lenses. I was too much a Canon fanboy and should have considered switching over to Sony when I swapped over to mirrorless. I'd love to have the Canon 100-500rf lens, but that is about a thousand too much out of my price range.
This would be awesome for moon shots :)
Fro knows fro-toe!!
🥳 I have L-mount Alliance gear 🤣 The niche also needs to feed. Don't forget that!
You should do a video on how you put your hair up.
Were talking about 15 inch expansion here... RAWrrr. I'm kind of missing how it does in auto focus here.
I have the 24-70 RF 2.8. It looks like the coating is being removed, I don't know what to do? any help appreciated. Fro thanks for the video, love them!!
I can’t find the Nikon Coolpix P1000 other than Amazon. Do you recommend anyplace where I can buy it new? I’m from El Paso TX
I just got a A mount for my digital camera.
Fits all my old glass
I wonder if Sigma will redesign its 24-105mm lens and release the mirrorless version of it because we're in need of this lens for our cameras.
Zooming out to 60 as a large bird flies towards you is very useful.
Hey Jared do yo know in any way that when will sigma release this lens for rf system
60-600mm is great for vacation photos. Canon is making me, and many others, very unhappy by not getting going with Sigma. I too may sell all my gear and switch.
Hello, this isn't the first 10x zoom for full frame mirorless cameras. There's the Sony and the Canon 24-240 mm (even if it's clearly not for the same purpose).
Hell of a lens! :D
The video came out less than 5 mins ago
@@NickzAndMikz So what's your point?
Strange how @17:20 the building in the background is almost in focus yet the guy is miles in front of it. I don't think that was shot at F\4.5
Being a hobby photographer with my Sony a6400, I'll keep with my Sony 18-135mm and my Sigma 100-400mm. But if I had to choose, I'd probably save the cash and get the 150-600mm.
yo what lens was the first minute of the video shot with?
*kicks rocks literally holding my S5* “Jared doesn’t want to play with me!😢😂
I am SL2-S shooter and I’m glad the L-Mount alliance exists, 1:48. - The image quality of Leica raw files is outstanding good and in opposite to Canon and Sony there are plenty of details in the shadows AND highlights. In comparison, Canon and Sony have no details in the shadows and Canon also suffers at the highlights. I avoid to speak of the Sony colours, specially at low light. Nikon has plenty details in the shadows but you easily get blown highlights. In opposite to F and EF mount, Z and RF mount are worst ever at sun stars. At least the Z lenses (S line) are awesome, edge to edge sharp also wide open, no chromatic aberration and diffraction also at f/16, they can compete with the Leica lenses. - If the SL3 and SL3-S come with the same updates like the Q3 (first Leica with phase detect AF), I expect even more such as a stacked sensor, L-Mount alliances rules. Wanna bet the Panasonic Lumix S line will get similar updates?
Jared how af of sigma 150 600 vs tamaron 150 500 on Sony camera. Some saying sigma not as good
Will this work on a mirrorless as well?😁
Jeremy Parr this lens sound very good I am not too sure on heavy side will need to look at it compare to TamRon 150-500 mm yours truly Jer🤔
Do you think that that would be able to keep up to the GFX 100 S
I shoot a lot of softball during the day and 60-600 would be perfect to cover the whole field from any part of field.
I need something like this for baseball. What lens are you currently using for that?
Sigma is Amazing Company
LOL. “I just walked up to the front with the big lens, and no one said anything.”
LOL. I’ve done that many times. Big camera, that guy must be important. It also helps being pretty tall, too.
We need some "L Mount Alliance" merch lmao
7:30 I believe Sony actually caps 3rd party lenses at 15fps, just like how they don’t work with teleconverters.
'Horizontical' is my new favourite word.
Still going with the Sony 200-600 vs either of these, especially for $2000. Hard to beat that lens. Nice offering for people who want the 70-200 range, however.
Also great to pair with the S5 II, since older Sigma lenses with stepper motor can't keep up with the new PDAF and there's no native super tele. On Sony... it's pretty much impossible to beat the 200-600 for the price.
is it only for the sony's???
I have the Sigma 150-600 C and its great. Abit on the heavier side and the focus distance is a tad far, but you usually dont stick that lens into someones face...
This lens seems to be as good in quality, but comes with more reach and closer focus, but its 40% heavier than the 150-600 at almost 3kg holy shit xD
Hi Jared, I have a question about the bundle package is there anyone that can help me?
I’d get the 60-600. More versatile. Btw great guns. 💪
I don't feel like this lens would be all that heavy, I had the other 60-600 on a D850 with another camera in my backpack and took it on a 10.5 mile hike in the smoky mountains and I'm a 165lb man and 63 years old. I've also had the Sigma 150-600 C and I now have the Nikon 200-500mm and I've always taken them on all of my hikes.
Could it be used to video sports
I did pull zooming with may sigma 60-600mm for Nikon.
Third party lenses are SOFTWARE LIMITED by sony at 15 FPS (it's written in the cameras' manual) in the A9, A9-II and A1, it could do a lot more than 15 fps, it has nothing to do with its motors :)
yep this is why we need nikon and canon to allow 3rd party
@@lumenspaulNikon has a deal with Tamron and does not shut down other 3rd party lensmakers like Canon does but they also do not open up like Sony.
It is kind of funny how Nikon and Canon just leave this obvious advantage to Sony. It is a no brainer but I guess this just shows how conservative (and thus frightened) Nikon and Canon are.
@@phelanwolf6747I do not think Nikon or Canon are scared they just think they can continue dominance with out offering there user base full access to other options ,it is more ignorance on there behalf,I want them to open up to 3rd party it will increase options even more for Sony as the 3rd party option will allow more for development.I feel in a year or two we will not be discussing this.
@@lumenspaullol I wouldn’t hold your breath. Canon isn’t going to do it and Nikon is charging for their mount. It’ll make these budget lenses cost too much. The majority of Sony cameras can’t even do 15fps lol. Even still 15fps is great. Gonna talk smack about Sony limiting 3rd party while hoping other companies will even allow 3rd party lol. It’s been confirmed many times that canon isn’t going to allow it. I just don’t get how you’re trying to make Sony look worse than Nikon and canon when it comes to 3rd party support… especially when Sony is the only one out of the 3 who actually has 3rd party. But keep wishing bud..
@@mrwashur1991 never say never
Big Lens/Looking Pro privilege is a real thing. No one wants to be the one to get in the way of someone who's "working."
30 fps ➡️ 15 fps at 7:31 is a Sony restriction for third party lenses. That’s the true reason for the limitation to 15 fps. I can’t understand why they made such a short lens foot, you can’t balance the lens on a gimbal.
1:42 for the l mount roar
RAW files to play with?
Jared got one thing wrong. The 15fps is a limit imposed by Sony to third-party lenses to not step on the sales of Sony glass. It’s not that Sigma’s motors aren’t fast enough.
Even some
Sony lenses get only 15
Hi I have a7iii and 70-200mm oss .
sony 200-600mm g / sigma 60-600mm Which one should I buy?
I am deciding between those too. What did you do?
THE L-MOUNT ALLIANCE IS ETERNAL!!! 🙌🏾
What is a mummer supposed to be? Like a Munchkin?
I've never seen a Sigma 60-600 with the buttons on the barrel just the 70-200's
Souldn't you perform the smell test before the wind test? You might have had a hoagie with onions for lunch and that would make the lens smell bad. Smell it first and then do the wind test.
I'd go with this if they had it for canon rf mount
Last time I was this early, Jared's biceps were 2cm smaller
I got a lens cap AND a lens cover with mine just as an FYI
I just cannot imagine the amount of dust which this lens sucks each time being extended. 200-600 from sony makes a lot much sense, IMO.
wind tunnel test 😅 !
Nikon might as well open the Z-mount to Sigma. They sure as hell can't deliver on their own promise of a 200-600.
I still want to know how you go down broad to get to 2nd? 😂
Horizontical? Interesting. LOL. Great review.
Only 15 frames per second! Lol in what world is that slow. Its amazing how good lenses have gotten
I absolutely love the 60-600 on my 90D. Amazing lens for surf photography.
Wish I could afford some ND filters for it.
I always use the push/pull for zoom.
Surprised this has some slip when its locked, mine does not creep.
i don't know about ykur camera but with my R6 i bought an adapter which has ND filter slots built in, maybe that's an option for you?
Buy a set of 150mm square ND is perhaps the most cost effective way. 105mm circular filter is clumbersom anyway.
i push and pull when using my 24 to 70 on a gimbal