He did it once and the difference is Barry was trying to save someone but didn't hurt anyone but as soon as he realised he'd made a mistake he fixed it but Oliver purposely hurt people
"Over in Central City, Barry gets Killer Frost, Vibe and Elongated Man, and all I get are wannabe Casey Jones, Mini-me and Mark Zuckerberg? Are you kidding me?"
@@cameronlapage7386 its so true, Barries team is STACKED they have no buisness struggling the way they do against some of these meta's. Most of Olivers team can barely fight alone
People like to shit talk CW for having bad actors and cringy writing. This scene here was solid, had depth and emotion, and the acting was great. Those two sold it.
the first one always gets me no matter how many times I've seen it! "I didn't realize you wanted to sleep with my mother, Walter" I just can't- he is iconic
It was one of my favorite moments in the show. Especially just the moment he basically says he always wanted to be like Lance. Not his father but really just a regular dude who could only give his time and effort not just throw his money around
I am so glad Oliver finally started standing up for himself after so long of being blamed for everything. It is a darn shame the writers of Supergirl did not make Kara the same way. She was so frustratingly passive.
1:34 the flash is perhaps the biggest hypocrite to ever exist, I don't use my personal tragedies to inflict torture, b!tch you change the whole God damn timeline and ruin billions of lives
Yeah a bad pattern some writers seem to fall into is to have their main character be 'flawed', they get blamed for literally everything that ever goes wrong, even when it's clearly not their fault. And so often the main character is written to just sit there and take it. I'm glad Oliver started showing his fangs and started laying out a few more verbal beat downs. Sure occasionally he really doesn't know what he's doing, but most of the time, he's the *only* one who understands the stakes and the responsibility that is supposed to be on everyone's shoulders.
@@baileynightshade617 How was he wrong with Barry? When they confronted the man who Oliver interrogated, he said he didn’t know and barry straight away believed him whereas Oliver knew to put pressure on him to make him talk leading to them gaining an answer from him. And the overall talk of between barry and Oliver, Oliver was right, it’s not like central city every where else it’s a dark place and you can’t be soft when in that line of work.
@@baileynightshade617 and for the Diggle argument, although dug made some good points, it sounded like he wanted to blame Oliver for everything that happened with Diaz when in fact like Oliver stated he showed up when dig was the green arrow, he brought drugs from diaz well hiding from the team that he knew diaz and that he had a drug problem and he had multiple situations in which he could’ve taken out Diaz but hesitated. So overall, I believe Oliver was right when it came to that particular argument
@@nellyc3669 in that particular statement oliver made a good point, but reguardless, dig was putting his body through hell in the process to focus on the task at hand. You entirely missed the points I was bringing up. The origin of that argument was that john was cautioning oliver to lead better. The whole entire origin of that argument was oliver being a douche to his previous team. John pointed that out to him. Also I'm not talking about the first fight with barry, I'm talking about the one where oliver got thrown on the ground by barry.
@@nellyc3669 Wrong argument. They're talking about the Elseworlds argument basically saying that Barry didn't need to train or anything because he was just gifted superpowers. Obviously that's factually incorrect, he's trained to learn new abilities and get faster. That's literally the purpose of the speed lab
"Can you not do anything without your wife in your ear . . . I don't think that you can go more than 9 hours without some sappy motivational speech" Oliver pretty much just summed up pretty much every episode of The Flash lol.
@@thatsnotgonewellatall5517 Oliver DID do it without anyone for quite some, unlike Flash who needed a speech from someone since the first episode ("Run, Barry, Run")
@@thatsnotgonewellatall5517 oliver was alone for months before he started working with diggle and he was forced to do it because he couldn't hide himself from diggle for too long he had to convince him to join him in order to keep the secret barry never did anything on his own his team saves his life all the time.
Honestly Barry has a point with "Felicity invented quarterbacking" (even though it's not the same because Oliver operated for awhile on his own and Barry never did)
@@tobsonasanya4765 so ? Felicity has a degree in CS. My point was - while both Iris and Felicity monitor operations from the headquarters, Felicity mostly provides valuable information about the current situation, enemies, their positions, weapons etc. Iris on the other hand most of the time tells Barry that she believes in him, that he can do it and to run. Problem is that while Oliver did just fine when he was doing it alone, Barry can't even take down the villain of the week without a pep talk from his team about how much they believe in him. IN EVERY FUCKING EPISODE.
My god, I forgot how great the drama on Arrow was. NOTHING else in the Arrowverse has anything as brutal and heartbreaking at times as this show. It wasn't always the best show. And at times, I didn't like how Oliver become more heroic and less broken as it went on. But the first like 5 seasons of Arrow are pretty awesome, with some of the best Arrowverse acting. I mean, Stephen Amell is soooo good at yelling at people lol. And just a great actor in general. The Arrowverse isn't the same without Oliver Queen as Green Arrow.
Well he did need to become less broken as the story went on because a story NEEDS character growth or it cannot thrive. I didn’t really like how he was framed as a hero though. I am glad Oliver felt appreciated (he definitely deserved to) but, it wasn’t done well. But most of the show after season 2 isn’t done well so 🤷🏼♀️
@@yoitwasntme He didn't need to become less broken. This is why Punisher is a significantly better hero. The Punisher is labled as an "anti-hero" because he kills people but that's what a hero should be. Some people just don't deserve to live. Oliver in the beginning was the same way and I think it should have stayed that way while improving other parts of him.
@@M1s0ry Just as you said, other parts of Oliver need to improve. That won’t happen without character growth. I’m not saying he should or should not have stopped killing people. He is a dark person with a dark backstory and it should stay that way. He shouldn’t be framed as a hero because he isn’t. He doesn’t need to become a different character to be less broken. I agree Punisher is a much better hero. I like The Arrow show even though it isn’t like the comics. I do seriously think we missed out though. I think Steven Amell could have made a really good Oliver Queen as he was meant to be. I don’t know if they knew what to do with the character because it wasn’t based on comic book Arrow. The show flip flops back in forth between him being a hero and him being hated by the public way too much and it gives me severe whiplash. It seems like they went very Batman with it, that certain people really appreciate the work he does and some people hate him for being a vigilante.
"My mother was murdered in front of me" DUDE, barry you lost 2 people, oliver lost slade, sara, laurel, moira, and pretty much anyone who got close to him 💀💀
@@marvthemartian001 at that point of that episode he hadn't tho. All those people you mentioned were still alive because that crossover episode took place during his season one. I think after this crossover Barry admits Oliver had points and changes how he operates
@Blue Archer if he did think like them, the team flash would be like "it's wrong/dont cross the line/there's always hope/there is another choice/pOsiTiVitY" lol
I understand where Barry is coming from and do feel bad for him that he had to witness someone being tortured but, Oliver is right. Starling city had 2 major terrorist attacks in 2 years that almost destroyed the whole freaking city. It’s a dark place and sometimes a good guy has to do bad things to save people. Also, Barry. Bro. Oliver is like I have had all these bad things happen to me and Barry is like I have had one of those things happen to me so we are at the same level. No, Barry. No you are not.
Anakin: This is outrageous! It's unfair! How can you be on the Jedi Council and not be a master? Oliver: The galaxy's torn apart by war, there's a secret sith lord controlling the Senate and you're picking now to whine about not getting a promotion?
@@christianramirez9303 Not really plus iris was not really involved in the early seasons that much plus he was still learning. If it was present barry still doing that then yes i would agreee
I like how Oliver held back on Curtis when he was roasting the new recruits (3:35), he ended up complimenting him when he could've easily said something like "you are useless in combat" or "your useless on the field"
Oliver isn’t wrong about Barry. Plot of every non-continuous Flash episode: Barry finds a villain. Villain beats Barry. Barry faces villain again and wins, mainly because he gets an inspirational speech.
Well he was right. He did indeed warn oliver how many times in the show to be careful? And oliver ignored everything dig said, when it blew up in olivers face he started shit with dig until dig got tired of it.
@@baileynightshade617 but dig did blame oliver for not being aware of ricardo diaz even though dig was green arrow at the time. and instead of asking curtis to make technology to help his injury, he bought drugs from ricardo diaz. curtis even made a micro chip to help felicity walk, and dig never asked him for help. and i understand what you're saying because the whole prometheus thing happened because oliver didn't listen to dig but dig also blamed oliver for what happened to rene even though his wound reopened because of him, and he was acting like oliver was just gonna let someone just shoot his face. but i get what you mean.
@@horizon_nate1526 oliver was supposed to lead the team not dig, he should never have asked dig to wear the hood in the first place. Plus dig was funding drugs so he could help the team. He was doing what he could to help them opposed to oliver whom never did when he lead them. Plus renee of all people kept disobeying every command oliver gave, he didnt really give oliver much of a choice. Plus the time it would have taken for curtis to make the tech that could fix his hand would have taken too long. He needed an instant pick me up kind of solution and he didnt want the team unfocused on his problems.
@@baileynightshade617 yeah but instead of funding drugs he could’ve literally asked the man working on their team that made a paralyzed women walk for help. i understand that it would take too long but at least the team would not be compromised in the field from his arm getting worse. and oliver asked him to wear the hood for william, and even tho dog also has family, it’s what dig wanted because as he said, when the dominators showed them their perfect life, dig’s was being the green arrow. and about rene that’s what i was saying. dig was blaming oliver for what happened to rene even though he had a gun up to his face. and rene would’ve never been hospitalized if not for dig not being able to shoot
@@horizon_nate1526 renee was shot AFTER dig was able to shoot so olivers decision to shoot renee had nothing to do with dig. And like I said before it would have taken too long for curtis to build the tek, I think you saw that but completely missed the point of it. Dig NEEDED a faster solution than having his team distracted with his hand so they could be out on the field getting the job done. Plus dig mentioned the hood stands for hope and there is really only one person who made that hood have meaning, oliver. He is supposed to lead team arrow not diggle. He chose to shoot renee cause renee didnt give him much of a choice, dig had nothing to do with olivers decision to shoot him.
I love how in the first few seasons he blamed himself for everything, and then is the last few he started standing up for himself when others tried to blame everything on him! We love to see character growth! 🖤🖤
Oliver and Barry showed the opposites of life. Barry was light and Oliver was dark. Barry's world is a dream and Oliver's world is reality. There are two things I learned in the army: "there are some people in this world that just need killing" and "you can run, but you'll just die tired".
After arrow season 4 and season 5 and the flash season 2 and season 3 , it changed Oliver and Barry life when Oliver became light and have a dream world, Barry has become darkness and have a nightmare life
Arrow spent most of its time villifying its lead character and his many, many flaws. But during the rare instances when Oliver got justifiably pissed off at people, boy, it was GLORIOUS. My faves are Oliver vs Quentin in S4 and Oliver vs Diggle in S6.
"i didn't realise you wanted to sleep with my mother, Walter." For someone who loves his late dad so dearly and hates to see her mother with someone else, this line is a hard punch on the face.
@@jaydenaali5110 well he didn't know she was pregnant tbh. She was bribed to take 2 million dollars from Moira therefore it's not his fault. Yes he cheated on Laurel and yes it's fucked up but Moira is the worst person and more responsible because if Samantha did tell him he probably would've taken responsibility and grown as a person.
@@Curseddemonsasukez the fuck are you talking about? last I checked Laurel was Oliver's first and Only girlfriend. And Oliver cheated on Laurel when they were together with Samantha that was nothing more then a one night stand last I checked. They were never in a relationship though that I do know. Maybe in the comics but not in the show at all.
@@redronin99 Pretty sure Oliver's had more than one girlfriend besides Laurel, I mean the amount of jokes at Oliver's expense with how he "got around" to nearly any girl says something contrary to what you said. Granted it's never confirmed he was with anyone long term aside from Laurel, but anyway, he slept with a girl, found out she was pregnant, got scared, and his mother bribed the woman to stay away from the queen family and lie to oliver, so there. That's the whole story. Until, Oliver sees the girl again with a kid, and finds out it's his.
@@baileynightshade617 during that season Oliver’s ego was so big and he would say anything to win the argument. Oliver after everything changed completely which is great character development
@@dustinreinhardt8231 to make a larger point yeah. Oliver got his sons mother killed because of a lot of cocky decisions made during that entire season. Didn't Oliver bring up diggles brother? He didn't do that to exaggerate a point.
Oliver Queen's mindset is the best in the Arrowverse... the show writers make it look like he wasn't... in the beginning, he started out as the quiet guy, in the end, he becamea true leader. He had perfect flaws which made him relatable, and that is why he is the best Arrowverse character...
When your only retort to brutal honesty and logic is an emotionally-charged attack at a seemingly sensitive subject… you lost. Oliver went damn near undefeated in every verbal conflict across this entire extended universe.
"i dont use my mothers death as an excuse to torture" yeah but you do use it as an excuse to change the timeline and alter the lives of everyone so which is worse
2:55 Finally! Someone said it! I love a good joke as much as the next person but I have always hated in TV shows (especially CW shows) all the stupid jokes in really serious situations. Like how Curtis cracks lighthearted jokes when people's lives are at stake, or Felicity anytime she opens her mouth (unless she's dumping Oliver again), I could go on
I think Felicity was well-written character in season 1 and then the writers shifted her to this quirky IT girl who's actually hot when she needs to be. The writing for her past season 1 was subpar at best, I feel her best interactions were with John and Oliver when it just was them and a lot of the lines she said throughout the series didn't really fit her character
Agree on Curtis, he really annoyed me when he became a regular and didn't stop making jokes but I think Felicity had a good balance when and when not to joke (and she only broke up once with Oliver??).
Barry and Dig were the only ones who had the balls to hold Oliver to the mark when he was pissed off. Oliver still wins but he has to bring the big guns out for them, imagine the conflict on Team Arrow if "The Flash" didn't get picked up. "My trail of bodies doesn't include my brother" "I'm not as emotionally healthy as you" "I don't think you can go 9 hours without some sappy motivational speech"
U ever realize the one with John and Oliver hits twice bc he’s talking about Johns brother but it can also be interpreted as talking about their friendship
My favorite line that wasn’t included in this was in 8x01, when him and Adrian are arguing with each other. Adrian: “It doesn’t explain why you’re parading around in my outfit” Oliver: “I needed an identity to work under and yours seemed convenient… sooorryyy”
Seriously Oliver in S8 was so unintentionally funny. I also love his “No shit, me too” line to Laurel in 8x06 when she tells him she’s in a time loop and he’s like “Yeah? Me too”.
@@RealHajimeHinata Yup… I remember before the Season came out they said Oliver’s going to be more humorous in the final season, and some may not notice it since his jokes are more subtle and “dad-like”, but I love his personality in Season 8. He cracks the jokes that make you chuckle, something he hasn’t in previous seasons
@@ImaginaryNate definitely! Also like in that episode when he trains Mia to use a bow and Oliver’s little “Ah makes sense” quip when she says she doesn’t cook lol. God Oliver is so dope.
The one between oli and Quentin is my favorite. All those years of lance despising every fibre of his being only to fall just as low as the man he hated. And the "no! Stop hiding behind your daughters!" Line
Arrow had its ups and downs but it was never cringey and bad and samey in the way the Flash was. And the acting was always pretty consistent and the show played more on character development and emotional scenes which impacted the audience more.
Oliver is so damn right about Barry being emotionally healthy lol. Even here, in that last scene with Oliver and Barry, Barry doesn't even try to defend himself about the sappy speeches (putting aside the flash's monotone writing roast) or needing Iris' council, he just like, accepts it real chill and tells Oliver hey, you need and get it too! (the felicity invented quarterbacking comment) And, also, when he realizes the discussion is just Oliver being annoyed with him, decides to end it instead of taking the bait! Not to mention he's the only character in the arrowverse who can actually feasibly hold his ground against roasty Oliver, just makes sure to pick his battles... Barry's pretty iconic!
God I wish the character work in elseworlds had stuck. It was so good to see so much called out, to see Oliver having fun, to feel like Barry might have a dark side, to highlight the things we all wanted to see highlighted for so long about the way the shows were written, I really thought it would be more than just a setup for Crisis. On another note, something worth noting here is that in every one of these scenes the other person had a point too. Oliver was just the one with enough anger in him to get cruel about it in ways the rest didn’t. Yeah, Oliver made good points here, but let’s not pretend he was very good at being just as real at facing his own hypocrisy, secret-keeping, etc.
Arrow had fantastic character development while flash has literally none. I wish flash would follow this. I loved how Oliver admitted his flaws and tries to fix them through the show
i think of another possible moment of oliver rage. he is dosed with vertigo. laurel would be asking about something like here : (2:30) oliver starts yelling and his muscle and veins pop and cuts on his arm open and keeps walking forward like an animal.
Ok, for real, he looks and sounds like he is holding his own yells back just to be able to say the lines right. Good lord this some daddy level yelling.
When people haven't gone through what Oliver has, they can never fully understand him unless they take the time too and even then, what he had to do to survive to come back to those he loves, they wouldn't even understand that. And leaders set themselves up to be blamed by others when they make mistakes because their followers/teammates forget that they're human. And people love blaming everyone but themselves when they're overwhelmed.
Also Earth X Oliver’s 2 roasts: 1.”I heard your Tommy died years ago, that’s what this earth does, makes people soft.” 2.”To be looking at your reflection, seeing only weakness?!!! I agree!!!”
Ill be honest, most of these shows are quite ass, but when Stephen Amell is on screen and yelling, he is a great actor, holy crap. The one between him and Diggle was great.
Felicity may be hated because she essentially took over the show for mamy, but she didn't really have to cuddle Ollie every single episode. Ollie may be a jerk on that one but he just delivered a truth arrow bomb to Barry.
"my mother was murdered in front of me too", the thing is, he didn't see that as a child, he got taken blocks away before he could see the actual moment of his mother being killed, Henry is the one who actually saw Norah dying. Barry only saw that cause he went to the past, and that happend episodes later. Oliver did saw Slade kill his mother, that and 5 years of seeing the worst of humanity.
I know I have always wondered why Barry says that he’s mother was killed right in front of him and he hasn’t time traveled yet when at the time of the episode
"Ooooh am sorry Barry am not as emotionally healthy as you"..... I got a revelation, that's exactly Oliver..... Never realized it until now.... OMG it is so damn true throughout the whole show....😱😱😱😱
“Well I’m sorry Barry, I’m not as emotionally healthy as you are” the absolute best apology a man could ever give
It was genuine, if nothing else...if not a little too filled with anger for an apology. 😅
@@different6620 After five years stranded on "one Island "
Lmao he needed therapy and ssris
@@JayK07 not to mention Wong kong The city
@@jaketane1717 what?
His shoulders must be sore. He carried this multiverse for years. Rest In Peace, Oliver Jonas Queen, The Green Arrow, 1985-2019
2020*
*Oliver Queen after carrying Arrow for 5 seasons* My back!
*1981
Yes he did
Early flash seasons, Superman and Lois and all
Of legends bar
“I don’t use my personal tragedies to get back at someone.”
No Barry you just go back in time and change time…
He doesn’t..
@@bruhbruhbruhbruhbruhbruhbr506 yes he does Season 3
@Kedhar21 end of season 2 start of season 3
@Kedhar21 yea
He did it once and the difference is Barry was trying to save someone but didn't hurt anyone but as soon as he realised he'd made a mistake he fixed it but Oliver purposely hurt people
Arrow: You still need training.
Black Canary: When are you going to stop telling me that?
Arrow: When you don't need training.
🤣🤣🔥🔥
laurel: gasps, (low voice) that's not fair...
@@renegadeyoshi341
Scar: Life's.... not fair.
has the same energy as in god of war:
Kratos: "You are hunting deer."
Atreus: "Which way?"
Kratos: "In the direction of deer."
Show was mid but yeah Arrow is based.
Seeing Oliver this angry at the inadequacy of his teammates is strangely therapeutic...
"Over in Central City, Barry gets Killer Frost, Vibe and Elongated Man, and all I get are wannabe Casey Jones, Mini-me and Mark Zuckerberg? Are you kidding me?"
@@cameronlapage7386 its so true, Barries team is STACKED they have no buisness struggling the way they do against some of these meta's. Most of Olivers team can barely fight alone
That’s one of my favorite roast moments from Oliver, it’s just funny how he roast rookies in training.
@@thenexus7343 I mean said metas have some pretty annoying abilities
Like in LOL, when your teammates are shit
the john diggle and oliver one is legendary
For real
fr
Period
People like to shit talk CW for having bad actors and cringy writing. This scene here was solid, had depth and emotion, and the acting was great. Those two sold it.
That asswhoopin was uncalled for tho 😂🤣
the first one always gets me no matter how many times I've seen it! "I didn't realize you wanted to sleep with my mother, Walter" I just can't- he is iconic
samee😂 .
the awkward silence is what got me😭
@@blonde2k16 OMG SAMEEE
Gotta say its made better but how casual he is with the little smirk
@@shadowfear77 yesssss
"STOP HIDING BEHIND YOUR DAUGHTERS!" I love that bit. Ollie gets pissed, and blows up at Quintin. Love it.
It was one of my favorite moments in the show. Especially just the moment he basically says he always wanted to be like Lance. Not his father but really just a regular dude who could only give his time and effort not just throw his money around
The acting from both of the actors was incredible
Prometheus always said that he was 10 steps ahead of Oliver.
Finally, Oliver got to say that.
It was funny af
The minute I saw that scene I’m like he’s been waiting three years for that one
Yeah. But this time he was joking with Adrian as friends not enemies.
@@rileyneilson6414 Guess Barry rubbed up on him😂
The difference is that he said maybe but prometheus confirmed it
“My trail of bodies, doesn’t include my own brother” god I almost forgot how good that line was lmao, you should’ve shown that epic fight too tho xD
What episode is this
@@pxrple7022 Season 6 episode 17
It was definitely a great line. But if im interpreting "trail of bodies" correctly then doesnt Oliver's include Tommy, Moira, etc. ?
i wish the fight scene wouldve been longer
@@papaquan I don’t think that’s what he meant. John actually killed his brother Oliver didn’t kill tommy or his mom
I am so glad Oliver finally started standing up for himself after so long of being blamed for everything. It is a darn shame the writers of Supergirl did not make Kara the same way. She was so frustratingly passive.
I agree
Kara deserved better
Yess finally someone who’s agree with me
1:34 the flash is perhaps the biggest hypocrite to ever exist, I don't use my personal tragedies to inflict torture, b!tch you change the whole God damn timeline and ruin billions of lives
@@the_batmobile0.4 That was like season 3 lol
Yeah a bad pattern some writers seem to fall into is to have their main character be 'flawed', they get blamed for literally everything that ever goes wrong, even when it's clearly not their fault. And so often the main character is written to just sit there and take it. I'm glad Oliver started showing his fangs and started laying out a few more verbal beat downs. Sure occasionally he really doesn't know what he's doing, but most of the time, he's the *only* one who understands the stakes and the responsibility that is supposed to be on everyone's shoulders.
I used to think Oliver was an asshole when he acted like this, but honestly he was completely justified in every situation
He was actually wrong in a good chunk of these arguments. When he put his team down. His entire argument with diggle, and barry, as well as laurel.
@@baileynightshade617 How was he wrong with Barry? When they confronted the man who Oliver interrogated, he said he didn’t know and barry straight away believed him whereas Oliver knew to put pressure on him to make him talk leading to them gaining an answer from him. And the overall talk of between barry and Oliver, Oliver was right, it’s not like central city every where else it’s a dark place and you can’t be soft when in that line of work.
@@baileynightshade617 and for the Diggle argument, although dug made some good points, it sounded like he wanted to blame Oliver for everything that happened with Diaz when in fact like Oliver stated he showed up when dig was the green arrow, he brought drugs from diaz well hiding from the team that he knew diaz and that he had a drug problem and he had multiple situations in which he could’ve taken out Diaz but hesitated. So overall, I believe Oliver was right when it came to that particular argument
@@nellyc3669 in that particular statement oliver made a good point, but reguardless, dig was putting his body through hell in the process to focus on the task at hand. You entirely missed the points I was bringing up. The origin of that argument was that john was cautioning oliver to lead better. The whole entire origin of that argument was oliver being a douche to his previous team. John pointed that out to him. Also I'm not talking about the first fight with barry, I'm talking about the one where oliver got thrown on the ground by barry.
@@nellyc3669 Wrong argument. They're talking about the Elseworlds argument basically saying that Barry didn't need to train or anything because he was just gifted superpowers. Obviously that's factually incorrect, he's trained to learn new abilities and get faster. That's literally the purpose of the speed lab
"Can you not do anything without your wife in your ear . . . I don't think that you can go more than 9 hours without some sappy motivational speech"
Oliver pretty much just summed up pretty much every episode of The Flash lol.
He roasted the writers of the flash on that one
Well to be fair, in the end Barry roasted him more in this scene.
You can see how Oliver gets more pissed when Barry just refuses to argue with him
@@thelegendsmith3063 actually The Flash writers roasted themselves through Oliver lmao.
He forgot to make fun of the fact that the characters have the personalities of cardboard.
For a second I thought he roasted Barry's libido
6:45 Oliver's literally roasting the entire Flash show lmao. Sappy speech every 5 minutes and Barry can't handle a situation by himself.
However atleast he doesnt pretend he can unlike Oliver
@@thatsnotgonewellatall5517 Oliver DID do it without anyone for quite some, unlike Flash who needed a speech from someone since the first episode ("Run, Barry, Run")
Barry is far to emotional
@@thatsnotgonewellatall5517 oliver was alone for months before he started working with diggle and he was forced to do it because he couldn't hide himself from diggle for too long he had to convince him to join him in order to keep the secret barry never did anything on his own his team saves his life all the time.
Actually Barry need sappy motivational speech when he is about to do something big.
Props to Queen for taking as much as he can dish out. A lot of these guys have great comebacks but he just keeps trucking with his own takedowns
Honestly Barry has a point with "Felicity invented quarterbacking" (even though it's not the same because Oliver operated for awhile on his own and Barry never did)
Difference is - Felicity most of the time provides valuable up-to-date intel on current situation, not "run, Barry, run" in every fucking episode
@Galaxy Reaper so true.
@Galaxy Reaper You all still mad about that lol
@@jevgenkova isn't iris a reporter lol
@@tobsonasanya4765 so ? Felicity has a degree in CS. My point was - while both Iris and Felicity monitor operations from the headquarters, Felicity mostly provides valuable information about the current situation, enemies, their positions, weapons etc. Iris on the other hand most of the time tells Barry that she believes in him, that he can do it and to run. Problem is that while Oliver did just fine when he was doing it alone, Barry can't even take down the villain of the week without a pep talk from his team about how much they believe in him. IN EVERY FUCKING EPISODE.
Oliver Queen doesn't roast anyone he just spills out facts and savage truths.
That will always be the reason why I’ve liked Arrow. Oliver calls everything for what it actually is/was, instead of being incredibly sappy.
why?
Oliver didn’t need to be the Spectre to stop the Anti Monitor, he just had to look at him for a minute and roast him
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
My god, I forgot how great the drama on Arrow was. NOTHING else in the Arrowverse has anything as brutal and heartbreaking at times as this show. It wasn't always the best show. And at times, I didn't like how Oliver become more heroic and less broken as it went on. But the first like 5 seasons of Arrow are pretty awesome, with some of the best Arrowverse acting. I mean, Stephen Amell is soooo good at yelling at people lol. And just a great actor in general. The Arrowverse isn't the same without Oliver Queen as Green Arrow.
Well he did need to become less broken as the story went on because a story NEEDS character growth or it cannot thrive. I didn’t really like how he was framed as a hero though. I am glad Oliver felt appreciated (he definitely deserved to) but, it wasn’t done well. But most of the show after season 2 isn’t done well so 🤷🏼♀️
Minus season 4
@@yoitwasntme He didn't need to become less broken. This is why Punisher is a significantly better hero. The Punisher is labled as an "anti-hero" because he kills people but that's what a hero should be. Some people just don't deserve to live. Oliver in the beginning was the same way and I think it should have stayed that way while improving other parts of him.
@@M1s0ry Just as you said, other parts of Oliver need to improve. That won’t happen without character growth. I’m not saying he should or should not have stopped killing people. He is a dark person with a dark backstory and it should stay that way. He shouldn’t be framed as a hero because he isn’t. He doesn’t need to become a different character to be less broken.
I agree Punisher is a much better hero. I like The Arrow show even though it isn’t like the comics. I do seriously think we missed out though. I think Steven Amell could have made a really good Oliver Queen as he was meant to be. I don’t know if they knew what to do with the character because it wasn’t based on comic book Arrow. The show flip flops back in forth between him being a hero and him being hated by the public way too much and it gives me severe whiplash. It seems like they went very Batman with it, that certain people really appreciate the work he does and some people hate him for being a vigilante.
@@LiterallyPaulGeorge season 4 was just... meh, but a whole lot better then when felicity decided they needed a new team. 🤦♀️ #worstideaever
"My mother was murdered in front of me"
DUDE, barry you lost 2 people, oliver lost slade, sara, laurel, moira, and pretty much anyone who got close to him 💀💀
Why More then 2 but ok
Barry lost his parents, Ronnie, Stein, Eddie, Wells, etc
@@marvthemartian001 at that point of that episode he hadn't tho. All those people you mentioned were still alive because that crossover episode took place during his season one. I think after this crossover Barry admits Oliver had points and changes how he operates
Shadow, Thea ext
@@marvthemartian001 With Stein he had 0 emotions tbh( that was strange) with Eddie also didn't seem that he felt hurt imo...
I always like Oliver’s way of thinking. Mostly. He seems to think more like Malcolm Merlyn or slade Wilson. Which means he gets results.
@Blue Archer if he did think like them, the team flash would be like "it's wrong/dont cross the line/there's always hope/there is another choice/pOsiTiVitY" lol
@Blue Archer that’s why I got excited when Oliver teamed with nyssa. Merlyn and slade. Lol. Much more efficient team
@Blue Archer no
@@xunknownx.m.6421 I mean he is ahero why would he think like them
@@tobsonasanya4765 because they get results
1:34 good line from Barry
then Ollie’s comeback
If it were anybody else Barry would’ve won. But Ollie (despite my misgivings for Arrow as a whole) was something else
Barry literally goes back in time for his own personnel use all the time lol
@@kappakiev9672 eh
@@miragewrld7891 Exactly so he’s a hypocrite
I understand where Barry is coming from and do feel bad for him that he had to witness someone being tortured but, Oliver is right. Starling city had 2 major terrorist attacks in 2 years that almost destroyed the whole freaking city. It’s a dark place and sometimes a good guy has to do bad things to save people.
Also, Barry. Bro. Oliver is like I have had all these bad things happen to me and Barry is like I have had one of those things happen to me so we are at the same level. No, Barry. No you are not.
That scene between Oliver and Diggle is quality dramatic acting, I love this show for all it brought to us and all it taught us.
Like it was sooooo surreal
Anakin: This is outrageous! It's unfair! How can you be on the Jedi Council and not be a master?
Oliver: The galaxy's torn apart by war, there's a secret sith lord controlling the Senate and you're picking now to whine about not getting a promotion?
Am I the only one picturing the Green Arrow with a green lightsaber ?
...Nice...
that's basically what i thought during the scene lol.
Oliver never said that
@@tonifilmt3285 obviously not
Barry: I cant run that fast it's not possible.
Cisco: you have to
Barry: I cant
Iris: you can do it.
Barry: Immediately starts running faster.
You all overexaggerate this lol
@@tobsonasanya4765 Nah, watched the series many times when I was younger. It’s exactly what it was like.
@@christianramirez9303 Not really plus iris was not really involved in the early seasons that much plus he was still learning. If it was present barry still doing that then yes i would agreee
@@tobsonasanya4765 but there is always someone to give the speech since the first episode,("Run Barry Run!" By Harrison Wells)
na what you should've said was "run barry, run"
I like how Oliver held back on Curtis when he was roasting the new recruits (3:35), he ended up complimenting him when he could've easily said something like "you are useless in combat" or "your useless on the field"
The other ones were field dudes sucking at being field dudes . The tech ppl don't need to be useful in hand to hand combat .
Oliver isn’t wrong about Barry.
Plot of every non-continuous Flash episode:
Barry finds a villain.
Villain beats Barry.
Barry faces villain again and wins, mainly because he gets an inspirational speech.
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Facts
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If you ever watched the arrow you’d know he gets like five pep talks every episode
"He showed up when you were the green arrow, you bought drugs from him, you funded what he is doing". Best roasting ever 🥂
"My trail of bodies doesn't include my own brother". Damn Stephen.
Man was talking complete truth
It's not roasting when you are giving someone the complete, unabridged truth. Not Oliver's fault that Diggle couldn't handle it.
Man diggle sounded desperate to blame Oliver for everything
Well he was right. He did indeed warn oliver how many times in the show to be careful? And oliver ignored everything dig said, when it blew up in olivers face he started shit with dig until dig got tired of it.
@@baileynightshade617 but dig did blame oliver for not being aware of ricardo diaz even though dig was green arrow at the time. and instead of asking curtis to make technology to help his injury, he bought drugs from ricardo diaz. curtis even made a micro chip to help felicity walk, and dig never asked him for help. and i understand what you're saying because the whole prometheus thing happened because oliver didn't listen to dig but dig also blamed oliver for what happened to rene even though his wound reopened because of him, and he was acting like oliver was just gonna let someone just shoot his face. but i get what you mean.
@@horizon_nate1526 oliver was supposed to lead the team not dig, he should never have asked dig to wear the hood in the first place. Plus dig was funding drugs so he could help the team. He was doing what he could to help them opposed to oliver whom never did when he lead them. Plus renee of all people kept disobeying every command oliver gave, he didnt really give oliver much of a choice. Plus the time it would have taken for curtis to make the tech that could fix his hand would have taken too long. He needed an instant pick me up kind of solution and he didnt want the team unfocused on his problems.
@@baileynightshade617 yeah but instead of funding drugs he could’ve literally asked the man working on their team that made a paralyzed women walk for help. i understand that it would take too long but at least the team would not be compromised in the field from his arm getting worse. and oliver asked him to wear the hood for william, and even tho dog also has family, it’s what dig wanted because as he said, when the dominators showed them their perfect life, dig’s was being the green arrow. and about rene that’s what i was saying. dig was blaming oliver for what happened to rene even though he had a gun up to his face. and rene would’ve never been hospitalized if not for dig not being able to shoot
@@horizon_nate1526 renee was shot AFTER dig was able to shoot so olivers decision to shoot renee had nothing to do with dig. And like I said before it would have taken too long for curtis to build the tek, I think you saw that but completely missed the point of it. Dig NEEDED a faster solution than having his team distracted with his hand so they could be out on the field getting the job done. Plus dig mentioned the hood stands for hope and there is really only one person who made that hood have meaning, oliver. He is supposed to lead team arrow not diggle. He chose to shoot renee cause renee didnt give him much of a choice, dig had nothing to do with olivers decision to shoot him.
“YOU HAVE NO ABILITY TO THINK BIG PICTURE” best part, so much emotion
What Oliver said to Barry sums up why the Flash is so messed up right now.
Does it
That’s exactly why people don’t watch it anymore and want it canceled myself included we used to love it but now I can’t stand it anymore
@@gilbertmillers4865 you alla re acting like the early seasons did not have pep talks lol
@@tobsonasanya4765 um 😐 I never said they didn’t What I am saying is everyone is sick of it and it has gotten old
@@gilbertmillers4865 I mean i guess but barry is more confident now i mean it ain't like he struggles with regular metas
Tribute to Oliver Queen. The King of Roasting.
the oliver we needed every episode
What ive been waiting for a long time. The 2min version.. Not satisfy enough for me. Cuz i need more of this!
This is pretty much all I can find and there won't be anymore new ones since Arrow has ended
@@slapstheroofofcar8956 pretty sure theres more roasts but i doubt theyd fit in a single video
I love how in the first few seasons he blamed himself for everything, and then is the last few he started standing up for himself when others tried to blame everything on him! We love to see character growth! 🖤🖤
Honestly Oliver was the most logical, reasonable, level-headed vigilante on the center and any DC characters so far
Batman?
@@Spooky-Sara I completely forgot about him my bad😅
Comic Oliver tends to fuck things up a lot, he is also way more emotional than show Oliver
@@javierlopez9789 I don’t read the comics but ig you’re right 🤷🏻♀️
Oliver and Barry showed the opposites of life. Barry was light and Oliver was dark. Barry's world is a dream and Oliver's world is reality. There are two things I learned in the army: "there are some people in this world that just need killing" and "you can run, but you'll just die tired".
After arrow season 4 and season 5 and the flash season 2 and season 3 , it changed Oliver and Barry life when Oliver became light and have a dream world, Barry has become darkness and have a nightmare life
Arrow spent most of its time villifying its lead character and his many, many flaws. But during the rare instances when Oliver got justifiably pissed off at people, boy, it was GLORIOUS. My faves are Oliver vs Quentin in S4 and Oliver vs Diggle in S6.
"i didn't realise you wanted to sleep with my mother, Walter." For someone who loves his late dad so dearly and hates to see her mother with someone else, this line is a hard punch on the face.
The title of the video should be Oliver queen being brutally honest and real with people.
That doesn't fit some of these scenes
That does not sound true at all in some of these scenes and in some of them he’s actually in the wrong
He carried this entire universe. It’s a damn shame how bad things got. The amount of times he was totally right is insane
Laurel: The island did change you, at least your honest now
Everyone: I don’t speak wrong
Even then Ollie wasn't honest ( on account of him getting a girl pregnant while dating someone
@@jaydenaali5110 well he didn't know she was pregnant tbh. She was bribed to take 2 million dollars from Moira therefore it's not his fault. Yes he cheated on Laurel and yes it's fucked up but Moira is the worst person and more responsible because if Samantha did tell him he probably would've taken responsibility and grown as a person.
@@redronin99 No no no. The pregnant girl was Oliver girlfriend Before Laurel. Then he got with Laurel then cheated on her with Sara her sister
@@Curseddemonsasukez the fuck are you talking about? last I checked Laurel was Oliver's first and Only girlfriend. And Oliver cheated on Laurel when they were together with Samantha that was nothing more then a one night stand last I checked. They were never in a relationship though that I do know. Maybe in the comics but not in the show at all.
@@redronin99 Pretty sure Oliver's had more than one girlfriend besides Laurel, I mean the amount of jokes at Oliver's expense with how he "got around" to nearly any girl says something contrary to what you said. Granted it's never confirmed he was with anyone long term aside from Laurel, but anyway, he slept with a girl, found out she was pregnant, got scared, and his mother bribed the woman to stay away from the queen family and lie to oliver, so there. That's the whole story. Until, Oliver sees the girl again with a kid, and finds out it's his.
That Oliver vs diggle is the best verbal argument in the whole series
Literally. Also gives the other top scenes a run for their money when determining the “best acted scene” in Arrow.
"My trail of bodies, doesn't include my own brother"
Less dramatic: "Don't make me hurt you."
Dont try it
“My trail of bodies doesn’t include my own brother 🤨” the amount of emotions that went through diggles head when Oliver said that
Holy shit Oliver murdered Dig with that line.
Oliver was so in the wrong with it though
@@baileynightshade617 during that season Oliver’s ego was so big and he would say anything to win the argument. Oliver after everything changed completely which is great character development
@@malaythakkar8772 I agree
@@baileynightshade617 didn't dig bring up Oliver's kid first
@@dustinreinhardt8231 to make a larger point yeah. Oliver got his sons mother killed because of a lot of cocky decisions made during that entire season. Didn't Oliver bring up diggles brother? He didn't do that to exaggerate a point.
I actually loved this. It actually shows how much better Stephen got as an actor during Arrow. I don’t know
Oliver Queen's mindset is the best in the Arrowverse... the show writers make it look like he wasn't... in the beginning, he started out as the quiet guy, in the end, he becamea true leader. He had perfect flaws which made him relatable, and that is why he is the best Arrowverse character...
There is no bad scene when it’s Ollie and Diggle. Period.
When your only retort to brutal honesty and logic is an emotionally-charged attack at a seemingly sensitive subject… you lost. Oliver went damn near undefeated in every verbal conflict across this entire extended universe.
"i dont use my mothers death as an excuse to torture" yeah but you do use it as an excuse to change the timeline and alter the lives of everyone so which is worse
ironic
dude doesn't have superspeed
2:55 Finally! Someone said it! I love a good joke as much as the next person but I have always hated in TV shows (especially CW shows) all the stupid jokes in really serious situations. Like how Curtis cracks lighthearted jokes when people's lives are at stake, or Felicity anytime she opens her mouth (unless she's dumping Oliver again), I could go on
I think Felicity was well-written character in season 1 and then the writers shifted her to this quirky IT girl who's actually hot when she needs to be. The writing for her past season 1 was subpar at best, I feel her best interactions were with John and Oliver when it just was them and a lot of the lines she said throughout the series didn't really fit her character
@@Jenn36xo Really? I thought she was great except S4 where nothing made sense.
Agree on Curtis, he really annoyed me when he became a regular and didn't stop making jokes but I think Felicity had a good balance when and when not to joke (and she only broke up once with Oliver??).
Nah Felicity knew her limits and WHEN oliver/they really were in danger, Curtis didn't. He never shut up.
Totally 💯 agree
1:34 No, Barry does not, but he fucks up timelines and as a result, everybody's lives.
Because he let's emotions get the better of him which it funny after what oliver said about himself.
Barry and Dig were the only ones who had the balls to hold Oliver to the mark when he was pissed off. Oliver still wins but he has to bring the big guns out for them, imagine the conflict on Team Arrow if "The Flash" didn't get picked up.
"My trail of bodies doesn't include my brother"
"I'm not as emotionally healthy as you"
"I don't think you can go 9 hours without some sappy motivational speech"
We can all agree that Stephen Amell is an amazing actor.
This was very satisfying to watch.
Agreed
“Barry you live in Central City where it’s sunny all the time and your enemies get cute nick names”LOL! 🤣
Seeing Quentin Lance get outraged by Oliver cracks me up actually 2:07 along with Diggle being left without words towards the end 🤣
U ever realize the one with John and Oliver hits twice bc he’s talking about Johns brother but it can also be interpreted as talking about their friendship
My favorite line that wasn’t included in this was in 8x01, when him and Adrian are arguing with each other.
Adrian: “It doesn’t explain why you’re parading around in my outfit”
Oliver: “I needed an identity to work under and yours seemed convenient… sooorryyy”
Seriously Oliver in S8 was so unintentionally funny. I also love his “No shit, me too” line to Laurel in 8x06 when she tells him she’s in a time loop and he’s like “Yeah? Me too”.
@@RealHajimeHinata Yup… I remember before the Season came out they said Oliver’s going to be more humorous in the final season, and some may not notice it since his jokes are more subtle and “dad-like”, but I love his personality in Season 8. He cracks the jokes that make you chuckle, something he hasn’t in previous seasons
@@ImaginaryNate definitely! Also like in that episode when he trains Mia to use a bow and Oliver’s little “Ah makes sense” quip when she says she doesn’t cook lol. God Oliver is so dope.
When Oliver is mad you know your gonna get beat up or roasted. Love it when he gets angry or overprotective of thea 😂
We do love Savage Oliver :) nice video, great editing
The one between oli and Quentin is my favorite. All those years of lance despising every fibre of his being only to fall just as low as the man he hated. And the "no! Stop hiding behind your daughters!" Line
Arrow had its ups and downs but it was never cringey and bad and samey in the way the Flash was. And the acting was always pretty consistent and the show played more on character development and emotional scenes which impacted the audience more.
Oliver is so damn right about Barry being emotionally healthy lol. Even here, in that last scene with Oliver and Barry, Barry doesn't even try to defend himself about the sappy speeches (putting aside the flash's monotone writing roast) or needing Iris' council, he just like, accepts it real chill and tells Oliver hey, you need and get it too! (the felicity invented quarterbacking comment) And, also, when he realizes the discussion is just Oliver being annoyed with him, decides to end it instead of taking the bait! Not to mention he's the only character in the arrowverse who can actually feasibly hold his ground against roasty Oliver, just makes sure to pick his battles... Barry's pretty iconic!
God I wish the character work in elseworlds had stuck. It was so good to see so much called out, to see Oliver having fun, to feel like Barry might have a dark side, to highlight the things we all wanted to see highlighted for so long about the way the shows were written, I really thought it would be more than just a setup for Crisis.
On another note, something worth noting here is that in every one of these scenes the other person had a point too. Oliver was just the one with enough anger in him to get cruel about it in ways the rest didn’t. Yeah, Oliver made good points here, but let’s not pretend he was very good at being just as real at facing his own hypocrisy, secret-keeping, etc.
Arrow had fantastic character development while flash has literally none. I wish flash would follow this. I loved how Oliver admitted his flaws and tries to fix them through the show
@@malaythakkar8772 Literally none?? You sure lol
@@malaythakkar8772 I mean do you see barry recking the timeline lol
i think of another possible moment of oliver rage. he is dosed with vertigo. laurel would be asking about something like here : (2:30)
oliver starts yelling and his muscle and veins pop and cuts on his arm open and keeps walking forward like an animal.
Barry: What's wrong with you?
Oliver: I live in the real world
when Oliver starts listing all the terrible things he's seen in his city and Barry hears "dead mom" he was like "yo me too! i'm a victim too!"
Ok, for real, he looks and sounds like he is holding his own yells back just to be able to say the lines right. Good lord this some daddy level yelling.
When people haven't gone through what Oliver has, they can never fully understand him unless they take the time too and even then, what he had to do to survive to come back to those he loves, they wouldn't even understand that. And leaders set themselves up to be blamed by others when they make mistakes because their followers/teammates forget that they're human. And people love blaming everyone but themselves when they're overwhelmed.
He was the best thing about this show. He's iconic for superheroes and he deserves his flowers.
Honestly Oliver could roast people for a straight up 24 hours!!!! 🤣🤣
Also Earth X Oliver’s 2 roasts: 1.”I heard your Tommy died years ago, that’s what this earth does, makes people soft.” 2.”To be looking at your reflection, seeing only weakness?!!! I agree!!!”
The acting in the Diggle vs Oliver scene is just phenomenal.
⚡️:You tortured that guy😧
🏹:Great observation skills, Barry
The best part is Oliver is right in every situation or argument
"I don't think that you can go more than nine hours without some sappy motivational speech" he's so right about this
I love how almost all of the people he’s yelling at become his closest friends.
R.I.P my mans Oliver Queen the roasting king. They should’ve at least gave us one more season!
That dude in 4:05 first got taught a lesson by Coach Carter and years later by Olliver Queen lol
6:14 the best scene there ever was in arrow history
Thank you for this!
Oliver was so mean but honest this is amazing but definitely the best arrow ever 😊😂
2:02
“It’s complicated”
“No it’s not”
Literally ended the mans entire argument with three words
Ill be honest, most of these shows are quite ass, but when Stephen Amell is on screen and yelling, he is a great actor, holy crap. The one between him and Diggle was great.
Just a small highlight of reasons as to why Oliver Queen is one of my favorite superhero protagonists ever
The first argument between Barry and Oliver was pretty much equal
6:29 i don't care what universe you're from that's gotta hurt
Walter was Oliver’s first on-screen kill.
6:41 Barry did get the last laugh on that one
Oliver just lashing out on people is just how I feel after small incidents happen to me because Issa mood
Felicity may be hated because she essentially took over the show for mamy, but she didn't really have to cuddle Ollie every single episode. Ollie may be a jerk on that one but he just delivered a truth arrow bomb to Barry.
Oliver said calmly...
He can roast ecery one and argue with them except thea and felicity 😂😂
Oliver is the Tony Stark/Iron Man of the Arrowverse.
"my mother was murdered in front of me too", the thing is, he didn't see that as a child, he got taken blocks away before he could see the actual moment of his mother being killed, Henry is the one who actually saw Norah dying. Barry only saw that cause he went to the past, and that happend episodes later. Oliver did saw Slade kill his mother, that and 5 years of seeing the worst of humanity.
I know I have always wondered why Barry says that he’s mother was killed right in front of him and he hasn’t time traveled yet when at the time of the episode
It's cute how they think they can win in a argument with oliver he always wins
"Ooooh am sorry Barry am not as emotionally healthy as you"..... I got a revelation, that's exactly Oliver..... Never realized it until now.... OMG it is so damn true throughout the whole show....😱😱😱😱