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How to: Remove Crank Pulley Bolt Without Impact Gun, using the Starter & Breaker Bar - Easy!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ย. 2019
- Here's an old school trick that has made my life easier. If you don't have an impact or the crank pulley bolt is just too tight, you can place a breaker bar on the frame and crank the engine over. Don't start it up - remove the plug wires to prevent a fuel injected engine from starting. The torque from the starter is enough to loosen the crankshaft pulley bolt. Be sure you know which direction your engine rotates to properly position the breaker bar. I'm showing this trick on my Toyota Pickup with 22R engine, but have done this on other vehicles as well. If you're worried about the breaker bar leaving a mark on the frame, you can put a piece of cardboard between them.
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Yep, used this method more times that I care to remember. Never fails.
failed on me...
@@glenglene8473 How come? Have to say that I've just bought a 240v impact gun for the crank bolts (Not a battery one) and have whizzed off a couple without issue.
you are a life saver and a genius I thought about doing that before I watched the video but the video confirmed thank you
I've definitely had to use this method a few times! Works like a charm.
Couple of ways to stop engine fron starting. Pull injector fuse and disconnect crankshaft sensor. Also my Buick regal didn't have room on frame to hold breaker bar. I didn't have car jacked up too high and used breaker bar with pipe to wedge against garage floor. Spun it right off. Stay clear in case bolt doesn't give and lifts car off floor.
This didn’t end good for my fiesta, the engine seized😒 something broke inside wile i did this, I definitely not recommend if the screw is to tidy!
I always so this and am surprised why .more people don't know about this trick. I see many posts on forums for people struggling to remove pulley bolts.
if you do that with the floating pulley timing belt, you will destroy all the valves, so be careful to which engine you are working
This needs to be higher up the comments
What do you mean 'floating pulley'? Are you talking about the type with a spring tensioner pulley vs hydraulic?
No, that is when the crank gear does not have any shaft pin or woodruff key to hold it in place
Good old-timer’s trick. I’ve had to use this method a couple times. Honda decided they just HAD to be different though and build engines that spin counter clockwise. That’s when Mr. Milwaukee comes out to play. 😄
I need to invite a Mr. Milwaukee over to my garage!
6th Gear Garage - I have the 2754 (3/8”) and 2767 (1/2”) and both were worth every dollar. I’ve used Dewalt/Mac and Snap-On electric impacts in the past, but none of them could hold a candle to the power and durability of the brushless Milwaukee. They’re the “go-to” in power tools in my opinion.
This is my "Go-to" method every time I have to do remove the front pulley.
Works every time.
Me too, until I can afford a bad ass impact one day.
I can confirm this worked , scary but works a treat.
Thanks for this. I have tried all sorts of methods over the past 2 days. I will try this in the morning!
How did it work for you?
I got it off eventually, after breaking a socket and a ratchet. Heated it up first and then turned the engine over. Thanks 👍
Great way to smash the ring gear or the starter pinion. One day you will have it happen....I have had many thru my shop where people have tried this. Very bad method
I've already started disassembling the engine and this pulley is giving me issues. Can't keep it still.
you guys made it look easy. I tried more than 10 times, I guess the starter isn't strong enough and the breaker bar stops the engine from turning.
Is your battery 100% charged?
Battery 100% full.
@@glenglene8473 I guess some starters are stronger than others then. You might try this method combined with PB blaster soaking and/or some heat.
Nice, I really like the slow motion. I'm going to be doing the timing belt on my Hyundai Elentra Tourer (Hyundai i30) and I dont have an impact gun.
Same for me. Hyundai Coupe but I've the same engine as the Elantra lol
Just tried it. Worked awsome thx
Great video. I don’t have a battery impact wrench (have a battery impact driver) and I’m trying to take the pulley off of my mower to change the seal. Might see if I can borrow my work’s 3/8. We’re a small business and also a rental place anyways so I’ll probably be allowed to. I already drained the oil, at least the little that was left after it sitting!
What type of mower? I haven't tried it on any small engines before, curious how it will work!
Thank you. Helped me so much.
I just tried this! And it worked! Thanks a bunch.
Definetly going to try this. Although ive already taken out the spark plugs & coil packs battery. If I chuck the battery back in and give this a shot what are my odds? Holden 2006 VZ here.
Hey it's worth a shot... just make sure the battery is fully charged
Hi, I really like your channel! You think you could upload a tutorial on how to align the direction of the front wheels (caster-camber) thanks!
To be honest, an alignment is about the only thing I will take my vehicles to a shop to have done. I tried it myself on a couple of vehicles and could never get it dialed in quite right. They do sell plates and tools that make it easier for a DIY'er, but at the expense of tire wear and the car not handling like it should, that's one thing I leave to the Pros. The only alignment I will do myself is adjust the toe on my 85 Toyota because it has a solid axle and only requires a measuring tape to check.
@@6thGearGarage thanks for answering! regards!
Hi does this method work for toyota aygo peugeot c1 yaris ? Can it damage flywheel ? Thank.
I'm not familiar with that model, but you just want to make sure it's turning the correct way to loosen.
@@6thGearGarage ok thank for your answer
What about if the bolt is torqued more than the engine torque?
it is really the starter motor that is providing the torque here, not the actual combustion from the engine. If it didn’t work, another option is to put it in first gear if manual, have someone hold their foot on the brake pedal, And use a really long cheater bar to break the bolt loose.
Thank you sir!
Dam!! Worked perfectly
will this method work for an interference engine? i wanna try this on my honda but i'm concerned that if i dont have the valves in the right position i could get pistons smacking into them if i try to start it
This only affects the crank pulley, there is a cog gear on the crank shaft behind the timing cover that the timing belt rides on. That will always rotate with the engine, not the crank pulley. Crank pulley is just for the accessory belts.
@@6thGearGarage i changed my cylinder head out and the timing belt is currently not attached to the head, so the valvetrain won't spin together with the head when i apply the starter
@@MuddafukhingdisKUST Oh then that is dangerous to try w/o the timing belt installed and everything at TDC. I guess you could leave it in 1st gear and hold the brakes really hard and that should keep the crankshaft from rotating. But still the life of your valves are all depending on the clutch not slipping.
What if it's the pulley of timing belt? Probably not a good idea....
1993 Toyota camry 2.2
Good trick thanks, but how
to tight the bolt again ?
ahmed kareem impact wrench is the best way
Thanks! This just saved me
Thanks alot man saved the day
How do you put it back in at the same torque?
I use a torque wrench to dial in the correct torque. You can put the transmission in gear with the engine off and have someone stand on the brake pedal while you tighten the pulley bolt and the crank will not turn.
Problem here. My bolt wont come out. I have it broke loose and maybe a couple of turns and thats it
Jason Young Usually breaking it loose is the hard part and the rest is easy. Maybe it was cross threaded by a previous owner? I hope not. I would keep soaking it with PB blaster
Wasn’t working on my 98 eclipse then I hooked a jumper to my other car to help the battery voltage and it came right off
Bobby Burdick good to know, I’ll try that. thanks!
@@6thGearGarage I will also try this way as mine did not come off neither, might be the battery a bit down...
how do you do this with all the elctric connectors disconnected?
It won’t work if the starter doesn’t work or have power. Your next best bet would be an impact wrench.
@@6thGearGarage my problem is that I have things like the crankshaft sensor, intake manifold sensor etc disconnected but the starter itself works. However the engine won't crank because the ecu blocks it because it detects these disconnected connectors. Modern technology maaan
What if I’m trying to keep top dead center
You'll have to find TDC after loosening the bolt. You can reinstall the bolt after removing the crank pulley/harmonic balancer and turn the crank by hand with a ratchet to get to TDC
@@6thGearGarage now that I think about it idk why I didn’t figure that out already
Just make sure to use your $200, comfort grip, Matco flex-head fine tooth ratchet.
lol
yeah but my breaker bar broke when i tried :(
@Chase Mendoza they bend too..lol
Have yet to break one, but this job made me nervous, even more so harbor freight quality potentially exploding in my face. Where safety glasses!
This didn't work on my Honda Pilot. Its the first timing belt change and the bolt is really on there
I also had a really tight one not too long ago that it didn't work on.
@@6thGearGarage I ended up getting a 1inch impact gun, replacing 1/4inch air fittings for the line with 3/8inch, replacing my 3/8inch air line with a 1/2inch (which ALSO had to be only 5 feet long, I wheeled my compressor right next to my job) and after about 9-10 uggaguggas, the bolt finally budged.
Almost as stubborn as people that vote Democrat.
@@6thGearGarage I have the same issue, it doe snot work, what happens in your case? My engine just blocks and thats it, is that an issue?
@@rsg1682 If it's a manual, You can put it in gear and have someone stand on the brake pedal so it won't roll. Then use a loooong breaker bar.
sir will it damage the starter?
I have never had it damage a starter
If i take all sprkplugs out..will that help add more torque on starter
No plugs = no compression, will make it spin easier.
@@6thGearGarage actually i tried on daihatsu mira..even with no plugs..the bolt stands still...finaly put the spark plug back and the ignition..to help the power cranck..
After a while..a few crancks.woilaa ...the bolt got loose...wkwwk...lol
I tried to do this with 2001 nissan now the starter don't work what did I do
Not exactly sure, but I'd check all fuses. Are you sure you had the breaker bar facing the correct way to loosen and not tighten?
@@6thGearGarage i figured it out listen to this. The rubber grommet fell out of the clutch pedal so the neutral safety switch won't getting depressed! I put a bolt in hole and now it cranks again. Haha
How do you torque it back without it spinning
On a manual transmission w/ engine off, put the trans in 1st gear, release the clutch and have someone stand on the brakes. That will prevent the crankshaft from turning.
@@6thGearGarage Are automatics out of luck
@@anixmaedits2204 exactly wth 😂 i keep trying to figure this out
which socket is ideal, standard or a deep?
Thanks for a great video!
It really depends on how deep the pulley is on the engine. The Toyota wasn't very deep but the Mercedes crank bolt was recessed about 6" in the crank pulley/harmonic balancer, so I had to use a deep socket and extension on that one.
6th Gear Garage gotcha, thank you!! I may be purchasing a 2001 Honda Accord!!
@@joonajks for this job on a accord, they sell a special socket thats much thicker and supposedly doubles the torque power. Should zip it right off
@@SooSmokie thanks!
Huh. Nice.
Those impacts are low on power out of the box, won't even loosen lug nuts
🙏🏽
Didn't work for me
For very stubborn bolts, I use a long bar over the breaker bar for more leverage. Then with the transmission in 1st gear and parking brake on and someone standing on the brake pedal, the crank should not move.
For engines that do not have a crank pulley key .... it does not work. In fact, the crank screw will come loose, but for the sake of the valves, this method is not indicate
this doesnt help much when your engine is on a stand ... ): im out of options
Is the flywheel/flexplate still mounted?
Rusty turd! Lol